Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Mega Edition: Bryan Kohberger's Motion To Exclude Evidence Seized From His Parents Home (9/19/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
- 0:03Speaker 1: this episode, we're spinning back up to Moscow, and we're
- 0:06Speaker 1: going to continue our dive into the court documents. And
- 0:09Speaker 1: this time, we're going to be taking a look at
- 0:11Speaker 1: the motion to suppress and memorandum in support for the
- 0:15Speaker 1: Pennsylvania search warrant for 119 Lambsden Drive, Albrightville, Pennsylvania, and
- 0:21Speaker 1: the statements made. Case number, CR01-24-31665, state of Idaho plaintiff.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Brian C. Koberger, the defendant, comes now, Brian C. Koberger
- 0:34Speaker 1: buying through his attorneys of record, and submits the following
- 0:37Speaker 1: memorandum in support of his contemporaneously filed motion for an
- 0:40Speaker 1: order suppressing all evidence gathered by law enforcement as a
- 0:44Speaker 1: result of the entry into the search of Mr. Koberger's
- 0:48Speaker 1: parents' home at 119 Lambsden Drive, Albrightville, Pennsylvania, including statements
- 0:53Speaker 1: made after his arrest. The motion and documents in support
- 0:57Speaker 1: of a Franks v. Delaware 438 U.S. 154 1978 hearing
- 1:02Speaker 1: are hereby incorporated into this memorandum. The proffer with supportive
- 1:06Speaker 1: documentation regarding Franks are filed under seal. For that reason,
- 1:11Speaker 1: they are not set forth in full detail here, but
- 1:13Speaker 1: instead are incorporated. The issues. 1. This court should apply
- 1:19Speaker 1: Idaho's exclusionary rule and law to this search. 2. Mr.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Koberger has standing to challenge the search of his parents' home. 3.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Pennsylvania law enforcement violated Mr. Koberger's Fourth Amendment rights by
- 1:32Speaker 1: entering and searching his parents' home without a valid local warrant. A.
- 1:37Speaker 1: The Idaho warrant could not have given police in Pennsylvania
- 1:40Speaker 1: the authority to enter the home. 4. Federal and Pennsylvania
- 1:44Speaker 1: law enforcement violated Mr. Koberger's Idaho and Pennsylvania constitutional rights
- 1:49Speaker 1: by not knocking and announcing their presence in and presenting Mr.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Kohlberger with the opportunity to surrender. 5. The affidavit submitted
- 1:58Speaker 1: in support of the application for the issued search warrant
- 2:01Speaker 1: recklessly or intentionally omitted material information. 6. The affidavit submitted
- 2:06Speaker 1: in support of the application for the issued search warrant
- 2:09Speaker 1: included information that must be excised. a. All information in
- 2:14Speaker 1: the affidavit was gathered because of law enforcement's unconstitutional use
- 2:18Speaker 1: of investigative genetic genealogy. and thus nothing in the warrant
- 2:21Speaker 1: should remain. B. Information about client's locations taken from his
- 2:26Speaker 1: phone must also be excised due to being gathered from
- 2:30Speaker 1: an invalid warrant. 7. Statements after arrest are either fruit
- 2:34Speaker 1: of the poisonous tree from the illegal arrest or should
- 2:37Speaker 1: be suppressed as a Miranda violation. Facts. Due to the
- 2:42Speaker 1: haphazard way in which law enforcement is kept and disclosed
- 2:45Speaker 1: records in this matter, the following are the facts relating
- 2:48Speaker 1: to obtaining the search warrant 4. 119 Lambsden Drive, Chestnut
- 2:53Speaker 1: Hill Township 1. On December 28, 2022, Trooper Larry of
- 2:58Speaker 1: Pennsylvania State Police became aware of the objective of arresting Mr.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Koberger via Moscow Police Corporal Payne. On December 29, 2022,
- 3:07Speaker 1: at 4.44 p.m., a magistrate in Pennsylvania issued a search
- 3:12Speaker 1: warrant for 119 Lambsden Drive, Chestnut Hill Township, Monroe County,
- 3:16Speaker 1: the home of Mr. Koberger's parents. 3. On December 29, 2022,
- 3:22Speaker 1: at 2.22 p.m., the magistrate in this matter signed an
- 3:25Speaker 1: arrest warrant for Mr. Koberger in Latah County. The affidavit
- 3:29Speaker 1: for the warrant was signed by Moscow Police Department Sergeant Blaker.
- 3:33Speaker 1: The basic facts Blaker used to support the search were, one,
- 3:37Speaker 1: next to the body of Madison Mogan was a tan
- 3:40Speaker 1: leather knife sheath. The Idaho State Lab later located a
- 3:43Speaker 1: single source of male DNA on the button snap of
- 3:46Speaker 1: the knife sheath. Footage from the King Road neighborhood showed
- 3:50Speaker 1: what the police suspected was the vehicle of the killer.
- 3:52Speaker 1: The white sedan lacked a front license plate. A vehicle
- 3:56Speaker 1: specialist decided, based on the footage, that the vehicle was
- 3:59Speaker 1: a 2011 through 2016 Hyundai Elantra. A vehicle matching that
- 4:05Speaker 1: description was spotted via surveillance in Pullman. It was later
- 4:09Speaker 1: discovered that Mr. Kohlberger drives a 2015 Hyundai Elantra and
- 4:13Speaker 1: that he lived not far from the last place. A
- 4:16Speaker 1: white sedan was seen driving in Pullman over an hour later.
- 4:20Speaker 1: That same specialist indicated the car seen in Pullman was
- 4:23Speaker 1: a 2014 through 2016 Hyundai Elantra. 3. Witness Dylan Mortensen
- 4:31Speaker 1: had indicated the height of the person that she saw
- 4:33Speaker 1: at the time of the attack was between 5'10 and 6'.
- 4:36Speaker 1: They had bushy eyebrows. Police determined Mr. Kohlberger fit that description.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Records from an August 21, 2022 traffic stop showed Mr.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Kohlberger was the driver of a white 2015 Ford Hyundai
- 4:49Speaker 1: Elantra with Pennsylvania plates lacking a front plate. It also
- 4:53Speaker 1: showed he had the phone number of 509-592-8458. He noted
- 4:58Speaker 1: investigators learned this was from an AT & T number. Mr.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Koberger had changed his vehicle registration to Washington on November 18, 2022.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Cell tower records did not show Mr. Koberger was in
- 5:11Speaker 1: Moscow at the time of the murders. In law enforcement's experience, however,
- 5:16Speaker 1: people committing crimes typically turn off their phones. Historical cell
- 5:20Speaker 1: site location information was obtained and given to a cellular
- 5:23Speaker 1: analyst survey team with the FBI. That team determined that
- 5:27Speaker 1: November 13, 2022, at approximately 2.42 a.m., Mr. Kohlberger's phone
- 5:32Speaker 1: was utilizing cellular resources that provide coverage to his apartment
- 5:37Speaker 1: in Pullman, Washington. They then support the idea that he
- 5:41Speaker 1: left his apartment and went south. They then supported the
- 5:45Speaker 1: phone being off. Then they support at 4.48 a.m. The
- 5:49Speaker 1: phone is south of Moscow, Idaho, near Blaine, Idaho. The
- 5:52Speaker 1: phone utilizes resources that make their way back to Pullman,
- 5:56Speaker 1: coinciding with the white Elantra seen on some surveillance there.
- 6:00Speaker 1: A similar data showing occurs at approximately 9 a.m. with
- 6:03Speaker 1: a trip into Moscow and returning at around 9.32 a.m.
- 6:08Speaker 1: That same team determined Mr. Kohlberger had been to Moscow
- 6:11Speaker 1: on at least 12 occasions prior to the event and
- 6:14Speaker 1: that he came into the area the morning following the murders. However,
- 6:18Speaker 1: law enforcement, without explanation, indicated it did not believe that
- 6:22Speaker 1: final trip ever occurred. Pennsylvania agents seized garbage at Mr.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Koberger's parents' residence and found DNA it determined was likely
- 6:31Speaker 1: the father of the suspect, DNA found on the sheath.
- 6:35Speaker 1: At 2.43 p.m. on December 29, 2022, a criminal complaint
- 6:39Speaker 1: and probable cause order were filed in this matter. At
- 6:42Speaker 1: 10 a.m., PM Eastern Standard Time, Pennsylvania SWAT began preparations
- 6:49Speaker 1: to arrest Mr. Kohlberger despite weeks of constant FBI surveillance.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Pennsylvania law enforcement did their own surveillance starting at 11.15 PM,
- 6:58Speaker 1: and despite the fact that weeks of the constant FBI
- 7:01Speaker 1: surveillance showed Mr. Kohlberger was unarmed and tended to go
- 7:04Speaker 1: for runs around his parents' neighborhood, police decided that in
- 7:08Speaker 1: the dead of the night within his parents' home was
- 7:10Speaker 1: the best way to make their arrest. On December 30, 2022,
- 7:14Speaker 1: at 114 EDT, Pennsylvania SWAT raided the Kohlberger's parents' home.
- 7:19Speaker 1: During the raid, law enforcement broke the front door of
- 7:22Speaker 1: the home, shattered the sliding glass door of the basement,
- 7:25Speaker 1: held the entire family at gunpoint, and seized Mr. Kohlberger. Mr.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Kohlberger made statements to his arresting officers. He was transported
- 7:34Speaker 1: to a police station in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, and made statements
- 7:37Speaker 1: during transport. At the station, Mr. Kohlberger was processed, during
- 7:41Speaker 1: which police collected information about his person. Finally, during interrogation,
- 7:46Speaker 1: before requesting an attorney, Mr. Kohlberger made statements to interrogators
- 7:50Speaker 1: from the Idaho State Police and the Moscow Police Department.
- 7:54Speaker 1: At 4 a.m. EDT on December 30, 2022, Pennsylvania State
- 7:59Speaker 1: Police filed a criminal complaint against Mr. Kohlberger. The argument, 1.
- 8:05Speaker 1: This court should apply Idaho's exclusionary rule. and law to
- 8:08Speaker 1: this search. The first question this court must determine is
- 8:12Speaker 1: whether there's a conflict of laws in this matter, i.e.
- 8:15Speaker 1: whether Idaho law or Pennsylvania law controls the validity of
- 8:18Speaker 1: the search warrant for Mr. Kohlberger's parents' home and the
- 8:21Speaker 1: necessary relief. Unlike the issue of arrest warrants, cases involving
- 8:26Speaker 1: multi-state investigations have produced far less case law. In fact,
- 8:31Speaker 1: the defense could not find a precise case on point
- 8:34Speaker 1: for the state of Idaho. The issue, however, has received
- 8:37Speaker 1: some attention in academia. Professor Kerr argued in his article
- 8:42Speaker 1: for the Harvard Law Review that the jurisdiction where the
- 8:45Speaker 1: crime occurred should control how the investigation is done, but
- 8:48Speaker 1: the state and or federal government should provide some form
- 8:52Speaker 1: of authorization to each other to participate in each other's
- 8:55Speaker 1: criminal investigations. See Oren Kerr, Cross-Enforcement of the Fourth Amendment,
- 9:00Speaker 1: 132 Harvard Law Review, 471-531-2018. As it stands, there are
- 9:07Speaker 1: at least five different approaches to this increasingly common situation.
- 9:12Speaker 1: See Megan McGlynn competing exclusionary rules in multi-state investigations resolving
- 9:17Speaker 1: conflicts of state search and seizure law. Fortunately for this court,
- 9:21Speaker 1: Idaho and Pennsylvania do not differ in their approaches to
- 9:25Speaker 1: enforcement of their Fourth Amendment analog provisions. Both do not
- 9:29Speaker 1: accept the good faith exception. See State v. Guzman, 122 Idaho, 981, 995, 1992. Thus,
- 9:38Speaker 1: this court can likely afford to leave as an open
- 9:42Speaker 1: question which forum's exclusionary rule applies. However, it is also
- 9:46Speaker 1: clear from the grounding of the exclusionary rule in Article 1,
- 9:49Speaker 1: Section 17, that evidence obtained in violation of the Constitution
- 9:54Speaker 1: must be excluded. See Guzman, 122 Idaho, at 992 and 93. Thus, Ms.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Kohlberger argues that the Idaho Constitution's exclusionary rules must apply.
- 10:06Speaker 1: As its basis lies not only in deterring police misconduct,
- 10:09Speaker 1: but because exclusion is constitutionally mandated and judicial integrity demands it. However,
- 10:16Speaker 1: it remains to be determined whether the actions of the
- 10:19Speaker 1: FBI and Pennsylvania state troops should be judged by the
- 10:23Speaker 1: protections of Article 1, Section 17, or its analogs. It's
- 10:28Speaker 1: not at all clear that whether a search should be
- 10:30Speaker 1: judged by Idaho's standards of reasonableness or that of Pennsylvania,
- 10:35Speaker 1: or in the case of the FBI agents by the
- 10:37Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment. As noted, Professor Kerr would have Idaho's reasonableness
- 10:42Speaker 1: apply in the FBI investigation and Pennsylvania state troopers were
- 10:45Speaker 1: acting under its authorization. C. Kerr, 132, Harvard Law Review,
- 10:52Speaker 1: at 531. This approach would also mesh well with older
- 10:55Speaker 1: cases such as U.S. v. Dury, 1948, looking to the
- 11:00Speaker 1: laws of the state where the defendant was arrested in
- 11:03Speaker 1: the absence of a federal law permitting the arrest by
- 11:06Speaker 1: a federal agent for a federal law violation. Johnson v. U.S., 333, U.S. 10, 1948.
- 11:13Speaker 1: It also goes along with the legal framework of agency.
- 11:16Speaker 1: See generally restatement third of agency American Law Institute 2024.
- 11:21Speaker 1: In this matter, Idaho authorities requested assistance from the FBI
- 11:25Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania State Police. Mr. Kohlberger was not under investigation
- 11:29Speaker 1: for violating Pennsylvania or federal law. Thus, the court should
- 11:33Speaker 1: be required to apply Idaho search and seizure law to
- 11:36Speaker 1: their actions in Pennsylvania. However, this approach has its detractors.
- 11:42Speaker 1: McGlynn argues that when the CITUS officer is performing the search,
- 11:47Speaker 1: they should only be held to upholding their own laws. McGlynn, Yale,
- 11:51Speaker 1: at 447 and 448. While that position has merit, as
- 11:55Speaker 1: it does not require a CITUS officer to get a
- 11:58Speaker 1: rundown of the differences between their law and the trial
- 12:01Speaker 1: state's laws, it remains that the Idaho Constitution is not
- 12:05Speaker 1: merely concerned with deterrence to officers who misbehave. See Guzman 122, Idaho.
- 12:11Speaker 1: at 992 and 93. Moreover, it is of concern that
- 12:15Speaker 1: such a rule would permit forum shopping. After all, if
- 12:18Speaker 1: Idaho's law enforcement may take advantage of laxer restrictions in
- 12:22Speaker 1: a different state, they may simply pause their investigation until
- 12:26Speaker 1: their suspect is in that new jurisdiction, or in the
- 12:29Speaker 1: case of the FBI, state law enforcement could at any point,
- 12:33Speaker 1: even within Idaho, call upon federal agents with the far
- 12:36Speaker 1: laxer rules of the Fourth Amendment. Finally, it must be
- 12:40Speaker 1: said that there is very little daylight between the Idaho
- 12:43Speaker 1: Constitution and the Pennsylvania Constitution. Both apply exclusion to a
- 12:47Speaker 1: failure to knock and announce. See State v. Rausch, 99
- 12:50Speaker 1: Idaho 586-592, 1978. Commonwealth v. Frederick, 124A. 3D- 748, 755-56. If anything,
- 12:52Speaker 1: Pennsylvania appears to have stricter warrant requirements for particularity. Commonwealth v. Grossman, 555A. 2D, 896, 899,
- 13:13Speaker 1: and 900. N. 3PA, 1989. Alright, we're going to wrap up
- 13:18Speaker 1: this first episode here. And in the next episode, we're
- 13:21Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off. All of
- 13:23Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode, including my contact information,
- 13:28Speaker 1: can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
- 13:31Speaker 1: and welcome back to the program. In this episode, we're
- 13:34Speaker 1: picking up where we left off with a motion to suppress...
- 13:38Speaker 1: and memorandum in support, Pennsylvania search warrant for 119 Lambsden Drive, Albrightville, Pennsylvania,
- 13:45Speaker 1: and the statements made. Part 2. Mr. Koberger has standing
- 13:50Speaker 1: to challenge the search of his parents' home. Mr. Koberger
- 13:53Speaker 1: grew up in his parents' home, and at the time
- 13:56Speaker 1: of the entry and search, he was staying there for
- 13:58Speaker 1: a winter break. As an overnight guest, he undoubtedly has
- 14:02Speaker 1: standing to challenge the search in this case. See Minnesota vs. Olsen.
- 14:06Speaker 1: 495 U.S. 91 110 Supreme Court 1684. Moreover, the court
- 14:14Speaker 1: in Olson clearly had a situation just like this case
- 14:18Speaker 1: in mind. That the guest has a host who has
- 14:22Speaker 1: ultimate control of the house is not inconsistent with the
- 14:24Speaker 1: guest having a legitimate expectation of privacy. The house guest
- 14:29Speaker 1: is there with the permission of his host who is
- 14:31Speaker 1: willing to share his house and his privacy with his guest.
- 14:34Speaker 1: It's unlikely that the guest will be confined to a
- 14:37Speaker 1: restricted area of the house, and when the host is
- 14:40Speaker 1: away or asleep, the guest will have a measure of
- 14:42Speaker 1: control over the premises. The host may admit or exclude
- 14:46Speaker 1: from the house as he prefers, but it's unlikely that
- 14:49Speaker 1: he will admit someone who wants to see or meet
- 14:52Speaker 1: with the guest over the objection of the guest. On
- 14:55Speaker 1: the other hand, few house guests will invite others to
- 14:58Speaker 1: visit them while they are a guest without consulting their hosts,
- 15:01Speaker 1: but the latter will who have the authority to exclude
- 15:04Speaker 1: despite the wishes of the guest, will often be accommodating.
- 15:08Speaker 1: The point is that the host will more likely than
- 15:11Speaker 1: not respect the privacy interests of their guests who are
- 15:14Speaker 1: entitled to a legitimate expectation of privacy despite the fact
- 15:17Speaker 1: that they have no legal interest in the premises and
- 15:20Speaker 1: do not have legal authority to determine who may or
- 15:23Speaker 1: may not enter the household. If the untrammeled power to
- 15:28Speaker 1: admit and exclude were essential to Fourth Amendment protection, an
- 15:31Speaker 1: adult daughter temporarily living in the home of her parents
- 15:35Speaker 1: would have no legitimate expectation of privacy because her right
- 15:38Speaker 1: to admit or exclude would be subject to her parents' veto. Thus, Mr. Kohlberger,
- 15:43Speaker 1: as a son, home for a week-long stay, at his
- 15:46Speaker 1: parents' home has standing to challenge the entry and search
- 15:49Speaker 1: in this case, regardless of his authority within the home. 3.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Pennsylvania law enforcement violated Mr. Kohlberger's Fourth Amendment rights by
- 15:57Speaker 1: entering and searching his parents' home without a valid local warrant.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Pennsylvania courts require a warrant for a particular residence to
- 16:05Speaker 1: go after a person police are aware has an arrest warrant.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Commonwealth v. Romero, 183A. 3D. 364PA. 2018. The need for a warrant for
- 16:16Speaker 1: a fugitive from another state is codified in 42 Pennsylvania,
- 16:20Speaker 1: CSA Section 9128 and 9129. Without a governor's warrant, an
- 16:26Speaker 1: officer can get a judicial warrant to permit entry into
- 16:29Speaker 1: a home, C-42PA-CSA Section 9134. Without either type of warrant,
- 16:37Speaker 1: an officer lacks this authority. C-42PA-CSA Section 9135. This understanding
- 16:44Speaker 1: also comports with Payton v. New York 445 U.S. 573-602-1980.
- 16:48Speaker 1: The Idaho arrest warrant could not have given police in
- 16:54Speaker 1: Pennsylvania the authority to enter the home. State warrants have
- 16:58Speaker 1: no extraterritorial effect. State v. Bradley, 106 Idaho, 358, 360, 1983.
- 17:05Speaker 1: The use of an out-of-state warrant is ipso facto a
- 17:08Speaker 1: warrantless entry. Thus, law enforcement in Pennsylvania cannot rely on
- 17:12Speaker 1: the existence of the Idaho arrest warrant to enter the home. 4.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Federal and Pennsylvania law enforcement violated Mr. Kohlberger's Pennsylvania and
- 17:22Speaker 1: Idaho constitutional rights by not knocking and announcing their presence.
- 17:26Speaker 1: and presenting Mr. Kohlberger with an opportunity to surrender. As
- 17:30Speaker 1: noted above, Idaho's law should apply to the entry in
- 17:32Speaker 1: this case. However, Pennsylvania, like Idaho, has rejected the good
- 17:37Speaker 1: faith exception, Commonwealth v. Edmonds, 586, 1991. Similarly, it insists
- 17:43Speaker 1: upon suppression, where the knock and announce rule has not
- 17:46Speaker 1: been complied with, absent an exigent circumstance, Commonwealth v. Frederick, 124,
- 17:51Speaker 1: PA Superior Court, 2015. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has only
- 17:57Speaker 1: found four exigent circumstances permitting police to ignore the knock-and-announce rule. 1.
- 18:03Speaker 1: The occupants remain silent after a repeated knocking and announcing. 2.
- 18:08Speaker 1: The police are virtually certain that the occupants of the
- 18:10Speaker 1: premises already know their purpose. 3. The police have reason
- 18:14Speaker 1: to believe that an announcement prior to entry would imperil
- 18:17Speaker 1: their safety. 4. The police have reason to believe that
- 18:21Speaker 1: evidence is about to be destroyed. Even with them enumerated,
- 18:24Speaker 1: with the conjunctive and, courts have held that any of
- 18:27Speaker 1: those instances justifies noncompliance with the knock-and-announce rule, Commonwealth v. Piner, 767A. 2D. 1057, 1059, N1,
- 18:38Speaker 1: PA Superior Court 2000, holding that the second be applied
- 18:43Speaker 1: because a uniformed officer stood under a porch light and
- 18:46Speaker 1: engaged the attention of at least several occupants with an
- 18:49Speaker 1: announcement of his identity, authority, and purpose. Idaho's understanding of
- 18:54Speaker 1: the knock and announce rule is set out in Roush.
- 18:58Speaker 1: The Roush court did not adopt a test such as
- 19:00Speaker 1: that in Pennsylvania, but held a case by case analysis
- 19:03Speaker 1: must be made. The general circumstances which have been found
- 19:07Speaker 1: to constitute exigent circumstances are 1. A reasonable belief that
- 19:12Speaker 1: compliance with a knock and announce statute would result in
- 19:15Speaker 1: the destruction of evidence, or 2. A reasonable belief that
- 19:18Speaker 1: compliance would place the officer in peril. In this case,
- 19:22Speaker 1: there is and can be no showing of exigencies. Mr.
- 19:27Speaker 1: Kohlberger had been surveilled by the FBI for weeks. At
- 19:31Speaker 1: no point during his surveillance was he seen to have
- 19:34Speaker 1: any weapons. There was no reason to take him inside
- 19:37Speaker 1: the house, as surveillance undoubtedly was aware of his daily runs.
- 19:41Speaker 1: The evidence the police sought was simply not the kind that,
- 19:44Speaker 1: give a chance to exit the residence, would have imperiled.
- 19:47Speaker 1: In State v. Ramos 142, item 628, our Court of
- 19:52Speaker 1: Appeals held that an officer knocking and announcing and then
- 19:54Speaker 1: breaking in the door two seconds later was done without exigency,
- 19:59Speaker 1: where the only evidence offered was that large quantities of
- 20:03Speaker 1: drugs were believed to be within the home. The state
- 20:05Speaker 1: urges us to also consider the district court's finding and
- 20:09Speaker 1: that SWAT officers approaching the front door of the house
- 20:12Speaker 1: were exposed and could be easily seen by any occupant
- 20:15Speaker 1: of the house looking out the window. We are unpersuaded.
- 20:19Speaker 1: The police would have been aware of the tactical environment
- 20:22Speaker 1: of the front of Ramos' house when requesting the warrant,
- 20:25Speaker 1: and the record indicates they did not seek a no-knock
- 20:27Speaker 1: warrant on these grounds. We note also that the visibility
- 20:31Speaker 1: of the area in front of the house through the
- 20:33Speaker 1: windows in Ramos' home as described in the district court's
- 20:36Speaker 1: opinion seems typical of most residential houses. We do not
- 20:40Speaker 1: accept that in every case the exposed nature of a
- 20:42Speaker 1: suburban home is a fact giving rise to reasonable suspicion
- 20:46Speaker 1: of some exigency allowing for near immediate police entry into
- 20:51Speaker 1: a private dwelling. There is little difference between what, if anything,
- 20:55Speaker 1: the officers could claim required the destruction of the Koberger
- 20:58Speaker 1: home and what the state relied upon in Ramos. Pennsylvania
- 21:02Speaker 1: cases show the failure to announce in this case was egregious.
- 21:06Speaker 1: In chambers, detectives, covered both doors of a residence, knocked,
- 21:10Speaker 1: and then immediately shoved the defendant back into his house
- 21:13Speaker 1: the moment he started to open the door while aiming
- 21:15Speaker 1: their weapons at him. The Supreme Court found the forcible
- 21:19Speaker 1: entry was completely unwarranted. In Commonwealth v. Kitchener, 506A. 2D. 941, 1986, Pennsylvania,
- 21:24Speaker 1: the court found exigent circumstances where the defendant had a
- 21:32Speaker 1: history of violence and fleeing police, and after they announced themselves,
- 21:36Speaker 1: heard running and believed the suspect was either fleeing or
- 21:39Speaker 1: going to arm himself. By a history of violence, the
- 21:43Speaker 1: defendant had arrests for attempted murder, aggravated assault, and assault
- 21:46Speaker 1: with a deadly weapon. He was known to have a
- 21:49Speaker 1: handgun in his car and reputed to be the person
- 21:51Speaker 1: who liked guns, machine guns in particular. In comparison, Mr.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Koberger has no criminal history, no reputation for violence, or
- 22:00Speaker 1: even being a gun aficionado. It makes no sense that
- 22:03Speaker 1: police were willing to announce themselves in Kitchener and not
- 22:06Speaker 1: to him. Taking the allegations in this case is true.
- 22:10Speaker 1: There is still no explanation as to why a small
- 22:12Speaker 1: army was required to capture Mr. Kohlberger. Given the force
- 22:16Speaker 1: the police decided to use here, there was no reason
- 22:19Speaker 1: whatsoever to break down the front door, shatter the basement
- 22:23Speaker 1: sliding door, and point guns at the inhabitants. 5. The
- 22:27Speaker 1: affidavit submitted in support of the application for the issued
- 22:30Speaker 1: search warrant recklessly, or intentionally omitted material information. The Fourth
- 22:35Speaker 1: Amendment states, unambiguously, that no warrant shall issue but upon
- 22:40Speaker 1: probable cause, supported by oath of affirmation, and particularly describing
- 22:44Speaker 1: the place to be searched and the persons or things
- 22:47Speaker 1: to be seized. Groh v. Ramirez, 540 U.S. 2004 Quoting U.S.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Constitutional Amendment No. 4 Probable cause exists when, given the
- 22:58Speaker 1: circumstances set forth in the affidavit, There is a fair
- 23:01Speaker 1: probability that contraband or evidence of a crime will be
- 23:05Speaker 1: found in a particular place. Illinois v. Gates, 462, 1983.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Because the right of a man to retreat to his
- 23:13Speaker 1: own home and there be free from unreasonable governmental intrusion
- 23:17Speaker 1: stands at the very core of the Fourth Amendment. Kylo v.
- 23:21Speaker 1: United States, 533, 2001. Quoting Silverman v. United States, 365 U.S., 1961.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Courts have firmly established the basic principle of the Fourth
- 23:32Speaker 1: Amendment law that searches and seizures inside the home without
- 23:36Speaker 1: a warrant are presumptively unreasonable. Grove v. Ramirez, 540 U.S.,
- 23:42Speaker 1: 2004 Quoting Peyton, New York, 445, 1980 For a search
- 23:47Speaker 1: warrant to be valid, the judge issuing the warrant must
- 23:50Speaker 1: rely on an affidavit or affidavits sworn to before the
- 23:53Speaker 1: judge or by testimony under oath and recorded that establish
- 23:57Speaker 1: the grounds for issuing the warrant. State v. Nunes, 138, Idaho, 636, 2003.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Any discrepancy between the items for which there was probable
- 24:07Speaker 1: cause and their description in the search warrant requires suppression.
- 24:12Speaker 1: It's clear that issuing magistrate himself, if he is to
- 24:15Speaker 1: fulfill the constitutionally mandated function of interposing an independent intelligence
- 24:20Speaker 1: between law enforcement officers and the citizen, must actually, in fact,
- 24:24Speaker 1: draw the inferences from the evidence presented to him. People v.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Potwara 1979. It's for this reason that the courts have
- 24:33Speaker 1: insisted that the full facts from which inferences might be
- 24:36Speaker 1: drawn and the information necessary to determine the reliability be
- 24:40Speaker 1: placed before the issuing magistrate. Finally, a criminal defendant may
- 24:45Speaker 1: challenge the veracity of an affidavit used to obtain a
- 24:48Speaker 1: search warrant. State v. Peterson, 133, Idaho, 1999. Upon a
- 24:53Speaker 1: preliminary showing of a warrant's deficiency, the defendant must prove
- 24:57Speaker 1: by a preponderance of evidence that that intentional or reckless
- 25:01Speaker 1: falsehoods were included in the warrant affidavit and were material
- 25:05Speaker 1: to the magistrate's finding a probable cause, or that the
- 25:08Speaker 1: material exculpatory information was deliberately or recklessly omitted. Peterson, 133, Idaho,
- 25:15Speaker 1: at 1157. An omission of exculpatory facts is material only
- 25:20Speaker 1: if there is a substantial probability that had the omitted
- 25:23Speaker 1: information been presented, it would have altered the magistrate's determination
- 25:27Speaker 1: of probable cause. whether an omission was intentional or reckless
- 25:32Speaker 1: might be inferred in part from the relative importance of
- 25:35Speaker 1: the information and its exculpatory power. ID 133 Idaho at 48,
- 25:42Speaker 1: 981 at 1158. In this case, law enforcement either intentionally
- 25:47Speaker 1: or recklessly, but likely intentionally, omitted exculpatory evidence as to
- 25:52Speaker 1: almost every facet of its affidavit for this warrant. Thus,
- 25:55Speaker 1: it will require suppression. The argument proffered for a Franks
- 25:59Speaker 1: hearing in support of this argument is filed as a
- 26:02Speaker 1: separate motion and adopted here. 6. The affidavit submitted in
- 26:07Speaker 1: support of the application for the issued search warrant included
- 26:10Speaker 1: information that must be excised. Where information in a warrant
- 26:15Speaker 1: was obtained via a violation of the Constitution, Idaho courts
- 26:19Speaker 1: excise that information. See State v. Johnson, Idaho 110, 1986,
- 26:22Speaker 1: State v. Bunting, All information in the affidavit was gathered
- 26:35Speaker 1: because of law enforcement's unconstitutional use of investigative genetic genealogy
- 26:41Speaker 1: and thus nothing in the warrant should remain. Mr. Kohlberger
- 26:45Speaker 1: has argued in a separate motion that the genetic genealogy
- 26:48Speaker 1: investigation in this matter was done in violation of the Constitution. Additionally,
- 26:53Speaker 1: he argues, there would be no investigation into him without
- 26:56Speaker 1: that original constitutional violation. It's not that the results of
- 27:01Speaker 1: the IGG sped up the investigation. Instead, they focused the
- 27:04Speaker 1: investigation on Mr. Kohlberger, a person whose only connection to
- 27:08Speaker 1: the case was his mode of transportation and shape of
- 27:11Speaker 1: his eyebrows, to identifications of little to no value, as
- 27:15Speaker 1: previously argued. As the state of Idaho Supreme Court explained,
- 27:20Speaker 1: While the initial burden in showing a factual nexus between
- 27:23Speaker 1: the illegality and the evidence the state must show, it
- 27:27Speaker 1: would have been discovered anyway. State v. Moss, 171, Idaho, 2022.
- 27:33Speaker 1: The state cannot make this showing. Without IGG, there is
- 27:37Speaker 1: no case. No request for his phone record, surveillance of
- 27:40Speaker 1: his parents' home, no DNA taken from the garbage out front.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Because the IgG analysis is the origin of this matter,
- 27:47Speaker 1: everything in the affidavit should be excised. B. Information about
- 27:51Speaker 1: the client's locations taken from his phone must also be
- 27:54Speaker 1: excised due to being gathered from an invalid warrant. Separately,
- 27:59Speaker 1: the information gathered via the warrant for Mr. Koberger's AT
- 28:02Speaker 1: & T account and the pen trap and trace device
- 28:05Speaker 1: warrant should be excised for the reasons set out in
- 28:07Speaker 1: those motions to suppress and all other motions to suppress
- 28:11Speaker 1: the impact, the warrant language. 7. Statements after arrest are
- 28:15Speaker 1: either fruit of the poisonous tree from the illegal arrest
- 28:19Speaker 1: or should be suppressed as a Miranda violation. Any statements
- 28:22Speaker 1: post-arrest to Mr. Koberger are fruit of the poisonous tree
- 28:25Speaker 1: from an unlawful arrest. In addition, statements made as soon
- 28:29Speaker 1: as he was placed in zip ties and held at
- 28:31Speaker 1: gunpoint by many police officers without a Miranda warning should
- 28:34Speaker 1: be suppressed. To protect the Fifth Amendment privilege against compulsory self-incrimination,
- 28:39Speaker 1: police must inform individuals of their right to remain silent
- 28:43Speaker 1: and their right to counsel, either retained or appointed, before
- 28:46Speaker 1: undertaking a custodial interrogation. The requirement for Miranda warnings is
- 28:51Speaker 1: triggered by custodial interrogation. A person need not be under
- 28:56Speaker 1: arrest to be in custody for Miranda purposes, Parkinson, 135 Idaho,
- 29:02Speaker 1: at 307. Short of an actual arrest, the safeguards prescribed
- 29:05Speaker 1: by Miranda become applicable as soon as a suspect's freedom
- 29:09Speaker 1: of action is curtailed to a degree associated with formal arrest.
- 29:13Speaker 1: The custody test is an objective one. It's not based
- 29:16Speaker 1: upon the subjective impressions in the minds of either the
- 29:19Speaker 1: defendant or the law enforcement officer. The only relevant inquiry
- 29:23Speaker 1: is how a reasonable man in the suspect's position would
- 29:26Speaker 1: have understood the situation. Mr. Koberger was zip-tied after a
- 29:31Speaker 1: no-knock warrant was served. He was zip-tied at his hands
- 29:34Speaker 1: and surrounded by police at gunpoint. Law enforcement did not
- 29:37Speaker 1: mirandize him immediately. Instead, they waited. until after he was
- 29:41Speaker 1: transported in a police car, handcuffed, with at least two
- 29:44Speaker 1: officers in the car. One was seated next to him
- 29:48Speaker 1: in the back seat, C. Frank 133, Idaho, at 369
- 29:51Speaker 1: and 70. Defendant was in custody for purpose of Miranda
- 29:55Speaker 1: when he was questioned while handcuffed and restricted to the
- 29:57Speaker 1: area of the patrol car. A reasonable person in Mr.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Kohlberger's position would have understood himself to be in custody.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Two conversations took place before Mr. Kohlberger was Mirandized at
- 30:09Speaker 1: the police station. It's clear from the police station video
- 30:12Speaker 1: that detectives asked him if he had ever been Mirandized
- 30:15Speaker 1: before and said they needed to go through the formality
- 30:18Speaker 1: of Mirandizing him. He said no. No video or audio
- 30:22Speaker 1: recording of the entry into his home and initial arrest
- 30:25Speaker 1: has been produced. Video and audio begin with Mr. Kohlberger
- 30:29Speaker 1: In determining whether a person has been subjected to custodial
- 30:33Speaker 1: interrogation for purposes of Miranda, courts may also consider the
- 30:38Speaker 1: conduct of the officers and the nature and manner of
- 30:40Speaker 1: the questioning. The conduct of law enforcement with Mr. Koberger
- 30:47Speaker 1: in the house is referred to as small talk when
- 30:50Speaker 1: he is being recorded during transport. This cannot be verified
- 30:54Speaker 1: because no audio or video is produced. The conduct of
- 30:57Speaker 1: the officer is in the police car during transport cannot
- 31:01Speaker 1: be described as an interrogation. However, without the video or
- 31:05Speaker 1: audio recording of in-custody discussions inside the house, the true
- 31:09Speaker 1: nature of the statements made in the car are without context.
- 31:14Speaker 1: All statements made at the police station were post-Miranda, information
- 31:18Speaker 1: in the media right after the arrest and attributed to
- 31:20Speaker 1: law enforcement report that Mr. Kohlberger redacted. Such a statement
- 31:24Speaker 1: is not in a police report or in an audio-video
- 31:27Speaker 1: recording that can be found in discovery. If it's a
- 31:31Speaker 1: statement that the state will seek to attribute to him
- 31:33Speaker 1: at trial, it should be suppressed as a non-Morandi statement.
- 31:38Speaker 1: If the conversation with Mr. Kohlberger inside the house was
- 31:40Speaker 1: custodial in nature, that context may warrant suppression of the
- 31:44Speaker 1: conversation in the police car during transport. Conclusion. Mr. Kohlberger
- 31:49Speaker 1: requests his court to suppress all evidence obtained by police
- 31:52Speaker 1: via warrant that permitted them to search his parents' home.
- 31:56Speaker 1: As explained above, law enforcement failed to knock and announce
- 31:59Speaker 1: before raiding the home and the warrant lacked probable cause
- 32:03Speaker 1: as written. Given its heavy reliance on conclusions reached by
- 32:06Speaker 1: law enforcement without details necessary for the magistrate to draw
- 32:10Speaker 1: its own conclusions and because the warrant omitted exculpatory information
- 32:15Speaker 1: and information that put into question the reliability of the
- 32:17Speaker 1: facts upon which it relies and finally because the affidavit
- 32:22Speaker 1: relied on evidence gained in violation of the constitutions. all
- 32:26Speaker 1: in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Article 1, Section 17.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Any statements made by Mr. Koberger are the fruit of
- 32:33Speaker 1: the poisonous tree of the illegal arrest. Some statements may
- 32:36Speaker 1: also be excludable under Miranda. This document was dated November 13, 2024,
- 32:44Speaker 1: and it was signed by J. Weston Logsdon. All of
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- 32:51Speaker 1: can be found in the description box.