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Wait, How Many People Admitted To Committing Voter Fraud? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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All right, we move into the third hour of the program, and please
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to have back with us first visit of the new year. Justin Haskins joins
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us, Good morning, sir, how are you. I'm doing very well.
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Last time you and I talked, you broke some news. There was
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a new poll that was released by Heartland Institute that you wrote. It was
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a poll done with Rasmussen. Tell us what the reaction first, reset what
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the poll basically told us, and reset the reaction. Yeah, it was
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an absolutely incredible poll. Essentially, it asked voters twenty twenty voters in the
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presidential election questions about mail in balloting and if they actually cast a mail in
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ballot. They asked those voters whether or not they engaged in certain activities that
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are fraudulent activities, so voter fraud, without telling them that it's voter fraud.
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So we asked people, for example, if they they voted in a
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state where they're no longer a permanent resident. Now you would think that a
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lot of people, whether they committed fraud or not, would not answer that
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question. Yes, even if they did commit fraud, because who's going to
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admit to doing fraud. But what we found was that an incredible amount of
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people overall, about one in five mail in ballots that we asked, said
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that they committed at least one kind of fraud, and the numbers actually higher
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than that. We're still digging into the data because it's conceivably possible that a
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person answered yes to one question and then maybe answer just to another question and
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it gets complicated. But the point is it's at least one in five,
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and it could be even higher than that, could be one in four or
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more, which has an incredible impact on the way we think about the election.
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So the reaction to it has been just absolutely incredible from people on the
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right. Of course, people on the left have mostly just completely ignored it.
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They don't want to talk about it at all. But people on the
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right, politicians President Donald Trump, for example, states across the country of
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lawmakers now taking a hard look at that, including there in Florida, what
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to do about mail in balloting, because this poll is probably the best evidence
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we have that widespread voter fraud did happen in twenty twenty, because this comes
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directly from voters saying, yeah, I did these things, and it probably
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did impact the election. The Morning Show with Preston Scott or do not there
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is no five on news radio one hundred point seven Double UFLA back with Justin
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Haskins of the Heartland Institute. We're talking about a poll that was released in
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the beginning of December that showed roughly one in five admitted though they didn't know
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at the time they were admitting to committing voting fraud. They just thought they
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did something, but they didn't know it was illegal. Basically, Is that
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about right? Well, we don't know exactly, but my guess is that
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there's at least a fair number of people who didn't know that some of these
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things were fraudulent. Though it's hard to imagine that you don't know that voting
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in a state where you don't you're not a permanent resident, That's okay,
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it's kind of hard to imagine that, But I mean, I think that
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there were some people that fell into that category. Yeah. We also asked
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people if someone else filled out their ballot for them. We asked people if
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they filled out someone else's ballot. We asked people about essentially forging signatures,
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which is another one of those things that you think people would understand is not
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okay, So all different kinds of fraud too. We didn't ask just one
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question about fraud. Another really crazy thing from the pole. It didn't get
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as much attention, but we asked people if anyone offered you money to vote,
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money or a reward, and eight percent of all voters, not just
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mail in ballots, but people who went to the polling places as well,
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eight percent said that they were offered a reward to vote, which is pretty
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stunning when you think about it, because eight percent of one hundred and fifty
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nine million ballots is you know, a massive number of people losing over ten
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million ballots. I was just I was just going to ask you that.
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I mean, the one in five number is almost a micro view macro wise.
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What does that roughly equate to in terms of that vote, the millions
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of ballots, how many potentially were fraudulent? Yeah, well, there were
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sixty eight million ballots cast in the twenty twenty election by mail, just by
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mail, which is by far the most number of mail in ballots we've ever
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had. It's never even been remotely close to that. If one in five
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of those mail in ballots were fraudulent, that's thirteen million ballots. Actually,
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more than a little more than thirteen million ballots could potentially have been fraudulent in
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the election, which is far more than the gap between Trump and Biden in
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the popular vote. So, and just to keep it, you know,
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not that I need to remind people, but in the key swing states the
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election was decided by in some cases ten thousand votes or less out of three
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million ballots, so fractions of a percentage point. So this could have had
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a massive impact on the outcome of the election. So justin this now begs
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the question or questions, who paid attention to this? Who did you get
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the attention of That might lead to something significant happening as a result of what
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you learned. Yeah, well, what needs to happen for one percent what
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needs to happen is there either needs to be no more mail in balloting unless
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you have a good excuse for doing it. Okay, So that that used
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to be the norm, and it is the opposite has happened now The norm
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is become you just get to cast mail in ballars no matter what. Or
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you need to have people use a notary when when signing a mail in ballot
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so that there's an objective third party who's signing off on this saying, yes,
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this person who's signing this ballot, it really is the person who is
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supposed to be signing the ballot. And only three states have that requirement Mississippi,
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Missouri, and Oklahoma. That's it. All the other states don't have
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that. Most states don't even have a witness requirement, and a lot of
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states don't even verify signatures. Well, I would go, but I was
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going to ask you that even if you use a notary, how many states
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actively even pay attention to whether someone that is a fixing that seal is really
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a notary. Yeah? Well, I mean then that would become the next
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problem. But I think that if you just require even if you just required
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people, even if people thought they had to go to the notary, yeah,
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it would probably reduce reduced fraud. So that reads the who's been paying
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attention to this? Well, there have been a lot of state lawmakers across
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the country that have taken note of this, which is a really good thing
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because they're the ones that need to pass laws to fix this. President Donald
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Trump has made this a massive issue. He's talked about this specific poll numerous
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times now since it came out, And so there is some movement, but
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the mainstream press, other than one article in the Washington Post which essentially completely
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dismissed the whole thing, there really has been no mention of it at all
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from the mainstream press. And I'm sad to say this because I write for
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Foxnews dot Com a lot and I love Fox News. But Fox News basically
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other than Jesse Waters did it talked about this on one episode of the show.
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Nobody else at Fox News, to my knowledge or on their website,
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has mentioned this a single time. I wish I could tell you I was
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surprised. Yeah, well, I know, and it's sad that that's the
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state of things. But unfortunately that's what's going on in the USLA on your
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phone with the iHeart radio app and on hundreds of devices like Alexa, Google
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Home, Xbox, and Sonos. So here we go in Iheart's radio station.
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Justin Haskins with US Heartland Institute, Director of the Socialism Research Center Socialism
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backing down a little bit? Or is it just simply not getting as much
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attention? You know, I think if you look at the polling, it's
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actually showing that younger generations are starting to back off a little bit on socialism,
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and the media I think is backed off a little bit on socialism lately
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because they are concerned that it hurts their chances. I think they thought AOC
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was kind of the rise of her at twenty eighteen or so. They kind
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of thought that that was the beginning of this big socialist wave and Bernie sand
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and all that, and then when that was kind of soundly rejected by even
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the Democratic Party, I think they realized this is probably hurting us in elections,
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so we got to change the strategy a little bit. So I think
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it's calmed down a little bit, but it's not going away. I mean,
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these people never give up. It's going to come back. Let me,
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let me get let me get some snapshot thoughts from you on a on
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a on a few different things, and some of them I did not necessarily
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put in the email that we shared back and forth. House Freedom Caucus really
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slamming hard this rumored deal between Speaker Johnson and Senate President Schumer as it deals
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with the budget and the government shut down that that's coming. Of course,
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again, doesn't Johnson have to win this for the GOP. He can't compromise
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on this and maintain his post yeah, I mean, I think he's in
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a really bad spot, and frankly, he wasn't a really bad spot coming
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into this. He's he has to make a deal and and he he's got
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two factions within his party who are completely averse to making deals and compromising.
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And one of them is the Freedom Caucus folks who I tend to align with,
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and then the other side is the super moderate quasi Democrat group, And
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somehow he's got to find a way to please them both, and it's just
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not going to be easy. So you could definitely argue though, that right
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now, the Freedom Caucus is sort of driving the ship here, and if
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he doesn't, if he doesn't make a really strong effort on their behalf,
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that, yeah, it could lead to more problems down the road that would
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not be good for him. Wouldn't it be fair? What wouldn't it be
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fair to say? Justin that every time quote a deal is made, the
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pendulum always moves towards the Democrats. They don't get all that they want,
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but they keep it moving in their direction. We don't ever seem to get
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it moving the other way. No. Yeah, no, that's one hundred
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percent. That's how progressivism works. You progressively change society over a long perioderiod
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of time with tiny little bites of the apple before you know what, the
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apple's gone. That's that's how it works. That's definitely what they're doing.
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And I think that I think what every leader in the Republican Party needs to
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understand is that they're all so afraid of bad press and and and the media
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and everything that if they if they don't do a deal, and they don't
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they don't work with the Democrats, they're going to, you know, look
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bad. It's going to hurt them. It's not going to hurt you.
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They are the mainstream media already hate you. They already do NonStop bad press
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for you. It's that doesn't matter. Stand up for what you believe in
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and it will work out in the end. That's that's what I think.
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They absolutely have to do this. But you see Republican after Republican after Republican
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play this game when they get into a position of leadership. It's a huge
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mistake. It never works out. Even Mitt Romney, if you remember when
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he ran for president, he is and he's essentially a Democrat or you know,
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as moderate a Republican as you could find. They trashed him too when
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he when he was running for It doesn't matter you know how moderate you are,
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so stand up for what you believe in and it will work out.
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I believe Donald Trump is the inevitable GOP nominee, but I just saw a
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JP Morgan forecast, literally inside their financial prediction forecast for the twenty twenty four
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year, they believe Joe Biden is going to pull out for health reasons and
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not be the nominee. I've heard this, yes, and it is possible.
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There's also a possibility that the super delegates, which is a sort of
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a quirky part of the Democratic primary process. The Republicans don't really do this,
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but the super delegates within the Democratic Party have a lot of power.
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These are sort of the party establishment people, delegates within the party. They
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get to vote in the primary separate from what the voters do. They have
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the ability to sort of push Biden out. And there's a theory out there
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that with Biden being as unpopular as he is, at some point the establishment
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folks, including big donors, might go to the Biden camp and say,
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look, you're done, you're gonna resign. You're going to come up with
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an excuse for it, not resign, But you're going to resign from the
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election, and we're going to put somebody else in there. The problem is,
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who are you going to put in there? The only there's only one
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person in America who could step in tomorrow and help the Democratic Party win the
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presidential election. Just one persona Michelle Obama. Yeah, and that's it.
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And if she doesn't want to do it, then there's really no one they
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could replace him with who would really be any better off. I don't think
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do you see a fight between the possibility of a Michelle Obama and Gavin Newsom.
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There's no fight. He doesn't even get in the race. If she's
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the candidate, she automatically wins the primary. If she steps in, yeah,
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no question about it. It's just a matter of whether she wants it
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or not. And I think you could make the argument that she doesn't because
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if she did want it, she might already have made this move. Or
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maybe she's just waiting til the last minute, because what's the point why campaign
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longer than you have to. So it's kind of hard to know. All
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Right, justin thanks for the time. We'll talk again next month, all
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right, care buddy, Thank you, Sir Justin Haskins with us the Heartland
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Institute twenty seven, but talk about some interesting possibilities. It's The Morning Show
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with Preston Scott