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Manuel Fontes - Podcast Wars, Iran Misinformation, and California Governors Race · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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  I want to welcome the one and only podcaster of many years, my brother, Manuel Fonts.
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  I have him on the show because it's been quite a while and we share a few things of interest
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  that we're going to get to later, especially when we're talking about Aran, his son.
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  My nephew is actually serving there in the Strait of Hormuz and he's enforcing the blockade
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  as a Marine.
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  So we're going to talk about that situation a bit.
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  But before we get there, we're going to talk about other things that my brother's been diving into that I kind of don't touch on.
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  Such as, for example, what's going on with the podcast wars?
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  Like, is it really a thing?
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  Should we be a concern for one?
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  I know you've been looking into it.
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  I try to stay out of it.
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  And, you know, so we don't know where this conversation is going to go, but we always have a good time talking.
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  And we're going to highlight my brother a bit.
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  I believe the guy deserves more audience.
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  and it's not because he isn't good.
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  He just doesn't put himself out there.
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  He's just not that guy.
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  That's all it is.
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  And it's not a dig on him at all.
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  He just gets it done, puts it out.
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  He's been doing this damn thing for 11 years
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  and he's better than probably 90% of the guys out there.
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  Dude, I just don't have an advertising budget.
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  That's all.
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  Well, exactly.
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  And neither do I.
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  You know, we're doomed.
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  We're doomed as independents.
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  But regardless, this is my audience getting to know you.
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  But first, let's start here.
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  I don't want to go into the whole deep, deep background
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  on the podcasting thing because we did that a few years ago and that episode is in the catalog.
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  But let's talk about how the show has evolved. We're approaching it differently now than you
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  were. Before, it was kind of like you're reading a lot of news articles or whatever's on the top
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  of your mind. It was kind of like venting, getting things out. But now it seems like you've
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  focused a bit more. You narrowed down how you're going to handle things, your flow, everything.
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  So what motivated you to just take this change, number one, and let's get to the second part of
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  this. How do you see your show progressing moving forward against everything else out there in the
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  space? Because you and I are both basically in the news and politics space. So why don't we start
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  there? What's the focus direction? Why did you make the change recently?
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  Well, originally the way it was, yeah, I was reading it a lot, things like that. And
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  And what I noticed is everybody is, I mean, even the higher level guys, they're all pretty bad.
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  And I was like, well, I mean, I've had about a decade of this.
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  I have some knowledge in the brain.
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  You know, I'm getting quicker in how I present it.
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  So I should be able to, instead of reading it, maybe I can skim it, get it in the old brain, and then present it in a funner, more relatable way, as opposed to being a robot and just reporting and reporting and challenging and things like that.
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  So I just thought, fuck it, why not?
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  And not only that, most of the guys that are doing it, like I said, they're not that good.
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  Yeah.
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  They're really not. And it's no, and I got no problem saying it. You know, I mean, if I was, and I know in my heart, if I didn't make some of the decisions I made, I'd probably be up there with 90% of these guys.
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  over decades long,
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  if I stayed in the same spot,
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  kept the episodes going,
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  I'd probably be
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  600, 700 episodes in at this point.
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  And I'd probably have
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  the same download numbers,
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  if not a little more
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  than most of these guys.
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  So I got to a point
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  where I was just like,
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  fuck it, why not?
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  Why not just go with it,
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  change it to a more
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  somewhat relatable way of doing it?
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  And then I found that I ended up going longer
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  because I would try to keep it at 30 minutes
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  and all of a sudden it gets longer and longer.
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  I don't know.
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  I just, that's just how I felt about it.
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  Yeah.
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  What's the, so you were talking about,
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  or you mentioned how a lot of these guys out there,
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  like the Bear guys, they're not really good.
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  And being that most of what we do,
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  like especially your show as well,
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  you do touch on a lot of news stories.
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  I mean, you do other things.
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  You do sports.
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  I mean, sometimes it's like whatever's off the top
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  of your head. But for the most part, you're in the news space, daily news, basically. So,
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  you know, you've switched to being a daily show, which is hard to do, but you do it pretty well.
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  And I got to ask, like, when you're hearing these other shows that you are critical of,
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  what makes you stand apart? Like, is it the information, like the deep dives? Is it the
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  fact that these other guys are not telling the whole story? Like, what's making you stand out,
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  like your approach?
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  To me,
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  most of it is
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  not...
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  How do I say it?
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  What a lot of these guys are doing
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  is they are reporting on...
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  They're talking about what everybody else is talking about,
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  what everybody else is talking about,
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  and it's like this giant echo chamber.
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  And the only way I felt like I can stand out
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  or attempt to stand out
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  is to, yes, touch on it,
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  but not make it the whole show.
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  These guys will make these topics last an hour or two hours.
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  And if you listen to one guy, he's going to talk about the same thing as the other guy that you just finished listening to as the other guy you just finished listening to.
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  So I'm like, well, I'll give 10 minutes to it.
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  I mean, everybody at this point will know that Donald Trump took a shit in the White House at 3 o'clock.
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  We all know that by the end of the day.
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  So yes, I could acknowledge it happened because everybody else just spent all day talking about it.
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  But what happened about this story over here and this story over here and this story over here?
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  And then you just, to me, that's the separation.
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  Because none of these guys are going to actually make the effort.
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  And when you're in a daily show, I've learned that these guys aren't going to make that effort.
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  And they even have a whole fucking team that they're paying.
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  and they're all producing the same news,
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  which is just weird.
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  They're not separating from themselves.
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  So to me,
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  for me,
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  it would be advantageous
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  to go the other way
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  and start talking about other things
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  like a bank robbery
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  or the one girl that got,
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  I think it was like 20 cell phones
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  glued to her backside
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  when she was murdered.
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  And they don't know why.
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  And, you know,
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  just weird shit like that.
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  And then just kind of,
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  you know,
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  fill the show out.
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  And then I also have this part of,
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  I get bored
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  because of the way my mind works.
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  And it's like,
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  I can't,
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  you know,
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  I can't stay in the same mode.
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  So now,
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  Tuesday was a sports day.
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  Let's just shift it.
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  The video game dropped.
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  Let's just shift that.
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  I don't know.
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  It just seems like
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  if I do enough of that,
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  maybe I'll gain an audience that'll catch on and be like,
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  hey, this is kind of cool.
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  You know, he's not, you know, doing what everybody else is doing.
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  So the thing that I've noticed is,
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  so what you said earlier,
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  how everybody seems to be parroting the same narratives
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  and they seem to all basically just repeating the talking points, right?
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  And what I like, not just because you're my brother,
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  what I like is that you're going to tackle those situations,
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  those current events, the hot topics, but you don't, like you said, you're going to,
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  you're going to say your piece, give your informed opinion because you do do some research.
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  Like I've been in the room with you and you have all these notes and shit everywhere.
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  So you do do that.
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  You do prepare, but you're also exposing other stories that most people are not being made
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  aware of because just getting buried by again, all the talking points.
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  and when we're dealing with politics,
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  you know, basically,
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  well, actually mostly in politics
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  and geopolitics,
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  like what's your opinion
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  on what's going on recently
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  in the podcast wars?
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  Because what you said earlier
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  about them parroting narratives
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  and talking points
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  and they're just repeating
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  and regurgitating the same old bullshit,
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  like no one's really standing out.
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  It's almost like they're arm in arm
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  because they know that
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  whatever they're saying
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  and what they're doing
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  is what's going to keep them relevant
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  and or keeping the money coming in, right?
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  It's all about likes and clicks and downloads.
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  So compare and contrast, basically.
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  Who are the people, in your opinion, at this moment
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  that is fueling this war, this podcast war?
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  And these podcasters are trying to manipulate politics in general,
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  like elections, like literal elections.
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  They think that their word carries that much weight
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  outside of, for example, social media
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  or outside of the podcast world.
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  So with these guys, who's the standouts in terms of what you may see as potentials, but failures?
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  Like, are these guys grifters?
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  Are they telling the truth?
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  And I've heard you take down some of these guys on your show.
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  Like, you're going to go ahead and play their clips.
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  You call them out.
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  And I mean, honestly, what you say makes a lot of sense.
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  It's like, okay, well, great.
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  You guys are all fluff.
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  No stuff, right?
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  There's no substance.
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  So like, what's your, what's your thoughts?
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  Like, who are the guys that are standing out that are leading the charge and giving podcasters like you, for example, and maybe me, a bad name that people are actually putting the work in, trying to tell the truth, you know, present the data and the facts.
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  Like, who are these guys that are ruining it for everybody, you think?
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  All of them.
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  All of them.
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  All of them.
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  Period.
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  I'm not, I'm not, I'm not kidding.
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  Well, all of them are just all the guys that are getting paid.
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  You know, I mean, is it about the people with the big money behind them that you think are just going down this road?
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  Yeah, all of them.
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  Every single one of them that's collecting a paycheck
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  and trying to make this their only job,
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  they all want to be first.
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  They all want to try to get to the front of the line as fast as they can.
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  Then they find out that they're wrong.
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  And then the other guy's already behind him talking about it anyway
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  and calling him out.
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  And then they circle jerks back.
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  They're all making it worse for everybody.
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  And it's gotten so bad to the point where
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  they were doing the same shit
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  with like your CBS, ABCs, all that
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  to burn that system down.
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  And now they don't have a target.
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  So then they went and WWE'd it
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  and created what we now have as the podcast war
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  because we got to talk shit about something else.
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  And it's gotten so bad
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  that they're now calling each other names
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  and they're just basically,
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  oh, well, this person said this.
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  And that's now my news.
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  That's now part of my news.
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  Right.
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  And it's just who gives a shit.
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  You know, they called you an asshole.
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  So what?
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  Why do we have to make this part of the show?
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  You know, and it just kind of, it just keeps going.
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  And there's only one guy that can affect anything.
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  And we all know who he is.
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  And it's Joe Rogan.
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  He turns his mic on.
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  15 million people are going to listen.
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  He's the only guy that can sway an election, sort of.
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  Everybody else...
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  is just grifting off each other, piggybacking off each other just to get paid.
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  And it hurts the lower, I call myself the lower tier, but it hurts the lower tier
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  because you're trying to build something from scratch, trying to build an audience.
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  Everybody that's above you has been lying, cheating, and stealing
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  and bringing their own audience from their other career with them.
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  And they're basically dragging their established shit.
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  And they're just feeding it to the next guy and to the next guy.
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  So that's why I say it's all of them.
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  They're all fucking ruining it.
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  Right.
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  So in your opinion, I'm going to agree with you on this.
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  In your opinion, these guys are self-absorbed narcissistic assholes.
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  I mean, let's just be honest.
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  most of them think that they're more influential than they really are.
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  I'm going to argue that I think more or less,
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  whether it's politics, leisure stuff, sports, whatever,
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  you tend to start tuning in to what entertains you
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  or even passes the time.
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  Let's just be honest in the fact that a lot of podcast episodes,
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  regardless of how good they may or may not be,
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  really becomes background chatter, right?
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  Yeah I did a whole episode on that Okay I didn hear that one so I didn know So well then okay well expound on that Okay I didn hear that one so I didn know Well then okay Well expound on that
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  But you know,
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  you don't get that right then. I did a whole
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  fucking thing where I was just sitting there going,
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  yeah, yeah, Dan
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  Bongino, you keep breathing heavy into
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  that microphone because we need the escape.
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  Right. We need the
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  separation. We need to unwind
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  as an audience. Yeah.
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  You know, Nick Fuentes, you keep saying, how, Hitler?
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  because we love it.
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  It makes us feel good.
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  And that's what,
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  that's,
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  that's,
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  that was that whole episode.
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  I did,
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  I think I went for like 45 minutes on it
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  because it's fucking so true.
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  It's like,
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  yeah,
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  you guys keep,
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  you,
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  Candice,
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  you keep filling up that grassy knoll
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  because I want to know who else it is
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  that could have possibly done something.
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  Right.
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  And I think,
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  I think people like,
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  you know,
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  the Candice Owens,
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  the Fuenteses,
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  even Crowder.
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  I mean,
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  let's just be honest.
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  They're,
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  they're all playing to the need
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  for people to be entertained.
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  Like, honestly,
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  it's all become
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  soap operas and dramas.
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  I mean, Alex Jones
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  is a perfect example of that.
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  You know,
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  throw enough shit at the wall
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  that's outrageous
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  that people go,
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  oh shit, really?
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  Frogs are gay, whatever.
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  And then eventually
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  one of them might be true
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  and all of a sudden,
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  oh, there it is.
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  There's the credibility.
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  He just earned the credibility
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  because he got one fucking thing right
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  out of 1,000 things
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  that he tried to prove right.
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  Right?
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  And so...
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  But that's the thing
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  that's crazy to me.
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  It's like,
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  how are these guys successful
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  when you really stare at them
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  and you really look at their catalogs,
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  you really listen to their shit,
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  you're like, how the fuck did Alex Jones
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  get to be successful?
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  By talking a pile of shit?
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  That's it?
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  I think what it is,
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  it's entertainment factor.
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  I think a lot of people who take things serious
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  like this that really want to be
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  maybe journalists,
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  people who are truth seekers,
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  people who actually tell the truth.
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  I've always said the truth is not popular.
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  I talk to people that are very well-informed
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  right especially in the um information space we'll just say that and even even they aren't
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  as popular even though they're telling the truth and their assessments are like spot on but when
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  you get a person like a dave smith trying to make everything a moral argument and you know the u.s
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  is bad and you know we we should be preserving you know the right of the islamic regime to exist
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  and everything even though they threaten the entire fucking world oh my god you're so right
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  Like, you know, and I think these people are conflating likes, clicks, and downloads for,
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  well, people who actually agree with them.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, if it's sensational enough and out there enough, people are just not going to
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  turn away.
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  It doesn't mean they all agree with you.
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  And so I think you're right.
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  I think the only guy that has any real sway in the podcast world is Joe Rogan.
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  And I think most of that is because for the most part, he kind of remains neutral with
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  his guests, like when he talks, it's
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  more or less, he's trying to hear them out.
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  He has his opinions, but he doesn't try to
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  inject him in the conversation
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  too often, unless it's something he really knows
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  like about MMA, you know,
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  well, good luck now. And marijuana.
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  Three hour conversation, right?
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  So, yeah, I hear you.
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  So,
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  what about,
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  this is perfect because you mentioned Dan Bongino,
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  right?
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  We're talking about how these guys think they're more
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  influential than they are.
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  so are these podcasters
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  like we're talking about
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  Megyn Kelly
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  right
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  Mark Levin
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  we got Tucker Carlson
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  damn we're gonna get
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  the roster together
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  well let's just
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  throw it out there
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  because here's the thing
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  anybody who's on social media
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  especially X
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  they're getting the sense
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  or the idea
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  that this podcast war
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  it's like them
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  versus everybody
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  their assessments are correct
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  their political opinions
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  are the end all be all
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  for everybody
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  and now
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  they're trying to say, well, there is a rift
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  in MAGA, the MAGA rift.
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  There's a separation happening
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  between MAGA and Republicans
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  or conservatives. And I can even
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  argue that the rift isn't
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  even necessarily that. It's between
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  common sense and these clowns.
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  And I'll just say it. I know it sounds harsh, but that's
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  the way I feel about it.
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  Is this a real thing? Like, is this
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  whole MAGA rift in the podcast
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  wars, is it real? Or is it just all
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  a bunch of made-up drama and bullshit?
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  it.
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  No, it's
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  manufactured.
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  It's actually
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  manufactured.
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  They had to have
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  a new target.
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  Yeah, why do you
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  think it is though?
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  What's the end game
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  of this whole thing?
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  Well, this is my
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  theory on this.
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  Every TV show
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  that has multiple
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  seasons, each season
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  has to top the last
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  season.
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  That's why Steven
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  Crowder, every
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  fucking January,
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  has a new mission
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  that he never
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  achieves.
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  It's to keep the
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  audience interested and engaged. Candace is doing the same shit. I got X amount, but you have to come
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  back to hear about X amount. And then she still doesn't tell you about it. And then it's come back
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  the next week and they got to up the game every single time or else no one will listen to them.
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  So my theory is they are treating it like we've already got the Donald Trump train for the last
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  10 years. We got to
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  somehow shift the narrative
• 18:15
  and shift the target
• 18:17
  because it's not
• 18:19
  going to be Trump in a couple years.
• 18:22
  So like out of nowhere
• 18:23
  everybody starts talking about the
• 18:25
  dark
• 18:26
  right all of a sudden.
• 18:29
  Like they're evil demons
• 18:31
  and shit. Dark right, Satanism,
• 18:33
  Satanic this, that. Like they're all
• 18:35
  trying to get the audience to now
• 18:37
  be mad at somebody else.
• 18:40
  And that's, and I
• 18:41
  It's all manufactured, dude.
• 18:42
  This is completely movie script writing bullshit.
• 18:47
  I'm sure maybe one or two of them is actually mad at each other.
• 18:52
  I'm sure, probably.
• 18:53
  But the whole thing?
• 18:55
  No.
• 18:56
  There's no way every single host of every single show that's out there is all angry at each other and always fighting.
• 19:08
  and always, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
• 19:13
  That's just how I feel.
• 19:14
  That's my theory.
• 19:15
  I just feel like these guys are now just trying to get the audience
• 19:18
  to go with them somewhere else.
• 19:21
  So they're really hoping for Gavin Newsom
• 19:23
  because that is a perfect punching bag for the next four years.
• 19:27
  I mean, the name, let's just go back to the name you brought up,
• 19:30
  like Candace Owens, right?
• 19:31
  Yeah.
• 19:32
  I'm going to use her as an example
• 19:33
  because I think a lot of people put these podcasters
• 19:37
  or podfluencers too high up on a pedestal,
• 19:41
  especially when it comes to politics and news.
• 19:45
  And if these guys really, really cared about America,
• 19:48
  let's just be honest, if they really fucking cared
• 19:50
  and someone like Candace really did the investigation
• 19:53
  and she really knew what the fuck was going on,
• 19:56
  why would you not give that evidence to the authorities
• 19:59
  so that arrests could be made?
• 20:03
  Why would you only have the info
• 20:05
  and hold it close to your chest
• 20:07
  so that you can get people to tune in next week
• 20:09
  to get the info.
• 20:11
  It's like a big Nancy Drew book she's writing, right?
• 20:13
  In real time.
• 20:15
  It's like, what are we doing?
• 20:17
  Like, do you really care?
• 20:19
  You have the answers?
• 20:19
  Oh, I did the investigation.
• 20:21
  She doesn't give a shit, dude.
• 20:22
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying, right?
• 20:23
  It's like, do you care?
• 20:25
  It's like Dave Smith.
• 20:26
  Oh, the travesties.
• 20:27
  Oh, what's going on in Gaza?
• 20:30
  Like, if you care, bro.
• 20:31
  If you really have the inside track
• 20:33
  and you have the connections you think,
• 20:34
  and that's the problem with a lot of these guys.
• 20:36
  They don't have connections.
• 20:37
  they're not invited to the White House on the daily
• 20:40
  they're not in the briefings
• 20:41
  they're talking out their ass and if they had real influence
• 20:44
  they would have put their money where their mouth
• 20:46
  was and they would have went up to
• 20:48
  Donald Trump's administration or whoever they have
• 20:50
  that is allegedly their
• 20:51
  contact and they would have tried to make a
• 20:54
  difference but all they're doing is
• 20:56
  talking shit bro I'm still
• 20:58
  waiting for Dan Blazerian to get on a plane and go
• 21:00
  to Israel and shoot an Israeli
• 21:01
  this guy make you believe he's running for fucking
• 21:03
  Congress that guy Randy Fine's gonna
• 21:06
  to smoke him. I hope so, man.
• 21:07
  He couldn't get out of that TMZ interview, that fucking
• 21:09
  idiot.
• 21:11
  I really hope so.
• 21:15
  That's a good segue
• 21:16
  because this brings us to
• 21:17
  podcasters and current events and the
• 21:20
  things they get wrong. What's the big thing right
• 21:22
  now? That's not going away. The Iran war.
• 21:24
  You actually talked about
• 21:26
  it on your most recent episode that I
• 21:28
  heard. I'm going to actually timestamp
• 21:30
  this because it's important. We're recording the 17th
• 21:32
  of April, 2026.
• 21:34
  I like to do that.
• 21:35
  so people understand if they hear this later
• 21:37
  and we talk about something and something develops,
• 21:39
  they know where we're at.
• 21:40
  So for everybody listening, you know when we're recording.
• 21:44
  But anyway, let's talk about this.
• 21:46
  So all the misinformation from the podcasters, right?
• 21:49
  The move away from legacy media because nobody trusts them.
• 21:53
  Now, because of this podcast war bullshit
• 21:56
  and the fact that people are waking up and finding out that
• 21:59
  some of these guys really don't know what they're talking about.
• 22:01
  Well, they're turning into legacy media.
• 22:03
  They don't even understand.
• 22:04
  They don't realize it.
• 22:05
  And they're getting people to not trust people like us, right?
• 22:10
  For example, other podcasters.
• 22:12
  They're really screwing it up for everyone else because they don't have the integrity.
• 22:15
  They're not doing their due diligence in their research.
• 22:18
  They're very surface level.
• 22:20
  So, for example, is Iran.
• 22:22
  And you already spoke on this recently, right?
• 22:27
  So, what is it about like Tim Dillon?
• 22:29
  You were talking about him and the misinformation that he's spreading and the lack of understanding he has.
• 22:35
  The problem is the guy has a huge audience and he's spreading all of this bullshit.
• 22:39
  You got the Dave Smiths doing the same thing.
• 22:40
  You got Tucker Carlson out there simping for the Islamic regime and Qatar and Iran while
• 22:50
  ignoring all of the threats that they have been to the Western world for over 50 years,
• 22:57
  47 years in power, right?
• 22:59
  Of Iran itself.
• 23:01
  And so where are we at with all this?
• 23:03
  I mean, what do you have to say about this situation right now with the Ron compared to like these pod fluencers or podcast stars?
• 23:14
  Well, I'm going to lock the podcast ease up for a little bit.
• 23:17
  Sure.
• 23:18
  And this kind of my own thing with it is what I've learned is how much information is inaccurate.
• 23:29
  Yeah.
• 23:29
  Because obviously, you know, it's not a secret.
• 23:35
  You know, we do have a, it's not a massive source.
• 23:40
  It's a communication.
• 23:41
  I'll say that.
• 23:42
  And the things that is shared, you just kind of go, well, that's not exactly what they're saying on the news.
• 23:48
  Yeah.
• 23:48
  You know what I'm saying?
• 23:49
  That's not what he, what they're seeing is not what they're showing.
• 23:53
  And that's been the big thing that has really bothered me because what happens is what they're showing, the podcastees are saying, and then they're making assumptions, assertions, whatever you want to call it.
• 24:08
  and it's just flat out wrong.
• 24:12
  But yet a lot of these guys
• 24:13
  have 1 million followers,
• 24:15
  400,000 followers,
• 24:16
  500,000.
• 24:17
  And you add all that up
• 24:18
  and they're swaying
• 24:19
  at least 10, 15 million people
• 24:21
  just across all these guys
• 24:23
  to think negatively about America,
• 24:26
  to think negatively about our military,
• 24:28
  to think negatively about our president
• 24:29
  and to think negatively about what,
• 24:33
  what is he,
• 24:33
  the Secretary of War now?
• 24:34
  He's got a really,
• 24:35
  he's got a cool name, dude.
• 24:36
  Secretary of War, Pete Hexeth.
• 24:38
  And they think negatively about this dude, Pete Hexeth, and what he's decided to do or whatever.
• 24:44
  And I just, I personally think that's just wrong.
• 24:47
  Because we used to be, you know, America, we're all one team, right?
• 24:51
  But now everybody, all of a sudden, generations later, it's like, this place sucks.
• 24:56
  We can't get anything we want.
• 24:58
  These decisions are stupid.
• 24:59
  This guy's like that.
• 25:00
  I think, I just think that we've disconnected.
• 25:05
  disconnected. And I think a lot of that has to do with this new medium because everybody can get a
• 25:12
  microphone shoved up their ass and they can say whatever they want. And you can find 10 people
• 25:17
  that'll believe them. No matter what, like hardcore believe them. And it's a sad thing to see. It
• 25:24
  really is because Iran is already sweeping the propaganda into the background. But the easiest
• 25:33
  thing ever a cartoon and everybody's buying it and it's like right it's like what do we like where
• 25:40
  did we go wrong as a country is all i'm at it's like but what did we do you know like what the
• 25:45
  fuck did we do wrong well the the combination of as you said the new media well podcasting is kind
• 25:50
  of new media it's been around for quite a long time you know since the early 90s well i'm going
• 25:56
  with oh no no no i i i agreeing with you i just saying people don understand like podcasting been around a while it it not new i think it just newly discovered to the masses right and a lot of that had to do when some famous people decided to come over and go that cool i
• 26:10
  gonna start mine too yeah and that's what ruined it they dragged their fucking dorks with them
• 26:13
  so i think i think that combined with social media and and the idea of monetization has created what
• 26:19
  is called the grift i think these guys like you said want to be first they they read a headline
• 26:25
  They might read a headline or see a post on social media.
• 26:28
  And all of a sudden they have a giant theory and synopsis of what's happening.
• 26:32
  And here's the timelines.
• 26:33
  And here's what's going to happen next.
• 26:35
  It's like, dude, all you read, all you read is Iran lost power one night, for example.
• 26:44
  And then all of a sudden they're saying, oh, their entire infrastructure has been destroyed
• 26:48
  because they did this and they're going to launch 20 missiles against this country.
• 26:51
  And it's like, no, you're getting ahead of yourself.
• 26:56
  It's very well known that Iran has always had infrastructure problems and they have a problem with getting, you know, among things, fresh water, consistent power, etc.
• 27:05
  So these things happen.
• 27:07
  I'm just using that as an example.
• 27:09
  But they're going to sensationalize that, twist it and turn it into something bigger than what it is.
• 27:13
  That is really disinformation at that point because it's not factual whatsoever.
• 27:17
  ever. Now, what you said earlier about us having a, we don't have a source, right? I'm just going
• 27:22
  to put that out there. I don't get anything out of my nephew, your son. I don't. I don't press him.
• 27:30
  I leave the line of communication open as someone who's serving there so that if he has to vent,
• 27:35
  say something great, but I'm not going to be putting him on the spot. I get my information
• 27:41
  from people that I know, basically relationships I've formed.
• 27:45
  And I do what you do.
• 27:46
  I don't just read one headline, man.
• 27:48
  I'll grab 50, 100 sources across the web,
• 27:52
  call people, corroborate things,
• 27:54
  and try to figure out what's really happening.
• 27:56
  That's how you make an actual assessment.
• 27:58
  You don't just read whatever's in USA Today
• 28:01
  or whatever the hell it is.
• 28:02
  I don't even know if they're around anymore.
• 28:04
  And I think that's the whole story, right?
• 28:07
  So the issue we have is really, it's these grifters, man.
• 28:16
  How do we get people to, it's more like, how do we train the audience or listener to realize
• 28:22
  there's entertainers and then there's people actually giving you the real information?
• 28:27
  How do we do that?
• 28:30
  You're not, you can't because they're doing it all.
• 28:32
  They're doing entertainment, they're doing it all in one big thing.
• 28:36
  And if that tickles the fanciest somebody, they're going to stay on it, whether they're full of shit or not.
• 28:42
  Right.
• 28:43
  And then every few minutes of a download is money in the bank.
• 28:49
  They only need five minutes of your time.
• 28:51
  They don't give a shit.
• 28:52
  Well, let's take the straighter Hormuz issue right now, because you talked about it.
• 28:57
  So I'm going to give you the floor on this.
• 29:00
  The perfect example is this, what the podcast world is saying versus what's happening.
• 29:05
  and we're talking about the blockade, right?
• 29:10
  I mean, you just did an episode on this.
• 29:13
  So do you want to go ahead and just take the floor on this?
• 29:16
  Go ahead and run away with what the realities are
• 29:19
  versus what's being said?
• 29:20
  Because this is a perfect example of,
• 29:23
  I don't know if it's deliberate disinformation
• 29:24
  or misinformation because they don't have a full understanding
• 29:27
  and they're just regurgitating whatever bullshit
• 29:29
  or narratives are being pushed on social media.
• 29:32
  uh what what's give us the example there because like i said i personally think they're just moving
• 29:38
  too fast yeah they're not they're not slowing down they're not taking the time but that's that's just
• 29:44
  a choice they're making because the goal is to be first to report basically but the whole thing
• 29:51
  with the straight is the the is hilarious it's just hilarious to me because it's like
• 29:56
  hilarious from what?
• 29:59
  Like an information standpoint?
• 30:01
  It's hilarious from
• 30:02
  information
• 30:04
  to
• 30:06
  what they say when they're on the mic.
• 30:10
  The whole thing, I just chuckle because
• 30:12
  we know that
• 30:14
  Iran
• 30:16
  closed it.
• 30:18
  Sort of. They didn't actually fully
• 30:20
  shut it down. They basically said,
• 30:22
  you pay a toll, you can get through.
• 30:24
  Yeah, we may or may not have a mine out there.
• 30:27
  I don't know.
• 30:28
  We do have missiles sort of, kind of, on the shoreline.
• 30:31
  Maybe we can shoot you.
• 30:32
  That's how they scare these guys.
• 30:34
  And then they have these insurance companies that have millions of dollars to pay out if it gets wrecked.
• 30:39
  They don't want to pay out.
• 30:40
  So the boat sits.
• 30:42
  That's effectively how Iran's sort of closed the strait.
• 30:48
  And everybody's reporting it like they've got it locked down with fucking battleships and aircraft carriers.
• 30:52
  and they're...
• 30:54
  They don't even have a Navy anymore.
• 30:56
  Dude, it's speedboats, bro.
• 30:58
  It's fucking speedboats with a pistol.
• 31:00
  Speedboats with house fans as rotors, right?
• 31:02
  Yeah, it's like, what are we talking about here?
• 31:04
  How would the fuck...
• 31:05
  You know, there's the one dork, Kyle Kalinsky,
• 31:08
  he sits there and goes,
• 31:09
  oh, they will blow up ships with their missiles.
• 31:11
  From where?
• 31:13
  Like, where?
• 31:14
  Where are you getting this information
• 31:15
  about these mysterious missiles on the shoreline?
• 31:18
  I mean, last I checked,
• 31:20
  didn't we blow up all of their...
• 31:22
  their launchers,
• 31:24
  like they have no way unless they dig it out.
• 31:27
  I mean,
• 31:27
  they can get a shoulder fire cannon.
• 31:29
  I brought that up because I thought China was still bringing them.
• 31:31
  Turns out they didn't.
• 31:33
  But even if they had that,
• 31:35
  the accuracy of a shoulder relauncher is so fucking wild.
• 31:39
  There's no way they can hit the boat.
• 31:41
  I mean,
• 31:42
  they couldn't put a ball in the ocean if they tried.
• 31:45
  It's like,
• 31:45
  what is,
• 31:46
  what are these guys like?
• 31:47
  It just,
• 31:48
  I just sit down and laugh my ass off.
• 31:50
  It's like,
• 31:51
  what are we talking about?
• 31:52
  and then the straight itself
• 31:54
  Trump goes fine
• 31:56
  I'm going to show you a blockade
• 31:58
  of Iran I'm not blocking
• 32:00
  Oman I'm not blocking Saudi Arabia
• 32:02
  I'm not blocking the UAE I'm blocking
• 32:04
  the Iranian port
• 32:06
  right and all of a sudden
• 32:08
  everybody goes it's a blockade of a blockade he's going to
• 32:10
  block the whole thing he's going to shut everybody down
• 32:12
  did you not read the fucking thing from CENTCOM
• 32:14
  did you not even listen to the speech
• 32:16
  yeah or are you just jumping
• 32:18
  to bullshit
• 32:19
  and Tim Dillon did that
• 32:22
  Kyle did that
• 32:23
  the Pod Save Assholes did that
• 32:26
  and it's like what do we do
• 32:28
  you guys not listen
• 32:29
  you not read like it blows my mind
• 32:32
  and that's the danger man
• 32:34
  because you know many of their fan
• 32:36
  their fan base just buy into the
• 32:38
  misinformation or even the deliberate
• 32:39
  disinformation you know the important thing
• 32:42
  that was going on with Iran
• 32:43
  with the Strait of Hormuz
• 32:45
  was exactly what you said
• 32:47
  it was
• 32:49
  the blockade against Iranian ports.
• 32:53
  And the big thing about that is everybody was saying,
• 32:56
  oh, the China vessel, you ain't going to fuck with China.
• 32:58
  Look what they did.
• 32:58
  They said, fuck you, Trump.
• 32:59
  We got right in.
• 33:00
  Yeah.
• 33:00
  Well, they didn't get out.
• 33:02
  They made a UAE.
• 33:03
  No, there is a correction.
• 33:05
  One of the boats got out, but they ported at the UAE and picked up fertilizer.
• 33:08
  Yeah, but that wasn't at Iranian ports, right?
• 33:11
  Exactly.
• 33:12
  Which is exactly what the damn thing said.
• 33:14
  We're going to blockade the Iranian ports from the Oman Gulf.
• 33:18
  Yes.
• 33:19
  If you come through the straight, you'll get through.
• 33:22
  But you're not getting out.
• 33:23
  But you're not getting past the golf.
• 33:25
  So because they're getting through the straight, everybody's like, oh, the straight's not closed.
• 33:29
  Why don't you pull the camera back and look behind you?
• 33:33
  What the fuck do you think's in the water?
• 33:34
  You know what's crazy about this manual is nobody understood the play here that Trump was doing.
• 33:39
  They just thought he was just going, being a petulant child, like, oh, well, you hit me, so I'm going to hit you.
• 33:45
  You call me a name, I'm going to call you a name.
• 33:47
  No, that is not what it was, man.
• 33:49
  By blocking the Iranian ports, he shut down commerce.
• 33:53
  He shut down revenue.
• 33:55
  I mean, he's at this point costing Iran $13 billion a month.
• 34:01
  The longer this goes on.
• 34:01
  What's that math on that?
• 34:02
  Like 400 million a day or some bullshit?
• 34:04
  It's 400 and some odd million a day.
• 34:07
  Yes, you're correct.
• 34:07
  Yeah.
• 34:08
  And so the reality is they rely on this revenue.
• 34:14
  And that island needs to empty too.
• 34:16
  Yeah, just the oil alone is about 45% of their government budget.
• 34:21
  Yeah.
• 34:22
  So if you cut off the money, someone like Iran who relies on money to pay proxies, buy weapons, influence.
• 34:30
  IRGC needs a paycheck.
• 34:32
  They can't operate.
• 34:34
  I mean, and so these people that are spewing this bullshit, and unfortunately, the masses, the general public are buying into it because they somehow trust these people.
• 34:46
  I think that problem that you mentioned is really the issue we have with the divide in America.
• 34:53
  It really is an information warfare situation we've been living in.
• 34:57
  Ever since 2016, really, ever since Trump first came into being in the political sphere here, as far as president.
• 35:09
  And ever since then, we've seen it hyped up, man.
• 35:14
  We've seen it hyped up and it's just driven a wedge, you know, across America through Americans, separating even families and friends because now all of a sudden you had to take a hard line stance.
• 35:24
  But what you said earlier, I was going to say something.
• 35:27
  When you brought up like Nick Fuentes, you brought out some of these other guys.
• 35:31
  It's not just here, you know, on the mainland.
• 35:35
  The problem that I've been hearing is it's even infiltrating people who are serving as military.
• 35:42
  Like some of these guys are buying in to Nick Fuentes' bullshit, for example.
• 35:46
  And everybody believes they're dying for Israel and Israel's in charge and we shouldn't be here.
• 35:51
  And I understand when you're serving, you're going to have a different perspective because your actual life is on the line.
• 35:56
  I get it.
• 35:57
  Yeah.
• 35:58
  But when you're listening to hyperinflated, hypersensationalized, half-baked noise from these podfluencers,
• 36:07
  and if you hear it enough
• 36:10
  and you're starting to go,
• 36:11
  well, maybe this guy's making a really valid point,
• 36:14
  you start to believe it,
• 36:16
  then we're having an issue.
• 36:18
  And unfortunately,
• 36:19
  I think we may be killing ourselves internally
• 36:23
  by allowing these things to happen,
• 36:25
  but then we have what?
• 36:26
  A free speech debate.
• 36:29
  So it's like,
• 36:29
  is there a solution to controlling
• 36:31
  the intentional disinformation
• 36:35
  and bullshit rhetoric?
• 36:37
  Or do we just stick to the free speech, you know, the Constitution and just let them talk?
• 36:43
  And then, I mean, I don't know, just have the danger of being torn apart from within.
• 36:49
  Well, unless there's an amendment to the amendment, that's the only avenue we have.
• 36:57
  They have the right to say it.
• 36:59
  It's up to the public if they want to listen, and that's where we're at.
• 37:04
  But, I mean, eventually, eventually people get tired of it.
• 37:10
  And I mean, Candace is the example.
• 37:12
  After seven months, she still hasn't produced a smoking gun.
• 37:17
  Yeah.
• 37:17
  And even though she's still pretty high in the stats, when you, every once in a while,
• 37:23
  you, if you check at it, she's dropping slowly 20%, 15%, 5%.
• 37:28
  Eventually she's going to, she's going to disappear.
• 37:30
  but the fact that Trump highlighted her
• 37:33
  in one of his posts
• 37:35
  she probably bumped back up
• 37:37
  and she's probably going to hover for a little bit
• 37:39
  but I see her disappearing by the end of next year
• 37:43
  because at some point you're going to have to produce
• 37:46
  and she's not going to
• 37:48
  because she doesn't have a fucking
• 37:49
  she doesn't have the smoking gun
• 37:51
  she doesn't have anything
• 37:52
  and I feel like at some point
• 37:56
  Nick Fuentes is going to hit that wall
• 37:58
  because you can only say
• 38:00
  I love Hitler for so long.
• 38:02
  You can only say
• 38:03
  I love Stalin for so long.
• 38:05
  You can only point to the Jews so much
• 38:08
  at a certain point
• 38:09
  it's going to be like,
• 38:10
  well, what's your problem?
• 38:12
  What's wrong with you?
• 38:14
  Or what's your solution?
• 38:15
  Yeah, do you have one?
• 38:17
  And that's where Dave Smith is at.
• 38:18
  Oh, I was just going to say that.
• 38:20
  He fucking hit that wall already
• 38:22
  because he did the stupid thing.
• 38:24
  Dave Smith got on camera
• 38:26
  on Pierce Morgan.
• 38:27
  Right.
• 38:28
  and he said that
• 38:29
  America is a terroristic organization.
• 38:33
  He says
• 38:34
  what he did say
• 38:35
  blew my mind.
• 38:36
  He goes,
• 38:36
  I will argue that it is.
• 38:39
  I wish somebody would have said,
• 38:40
  go ahead,
• 38:41
  prove it.
• 38:42
  What do you got?
• 38:43
  Yeah.
• 38:44
  And he wouldn't be able
• 38:45
  to get out of that
• 38:45
  because you can't really prove that
• 38:47
  that we are.
• 38:48
  Because even though
• 38:49
  we blow you up,
• 38:50
  we defeat you,
• 38:52
  we try to rebuild your house.
• 38:54
  You know,
• 38:54
  that's what America does.
• 38:55
  Like we sit there,
• 38:56
  we shake hands at the end We go hey you know I know you were a dick back there I slapped you in the head I give you back your living room No other country does that No other country
• 39:07
  So for him to say that is so disingenuous. He's a complete ass for doing it. And what I really
• 39:13
  hated was Pierce Morgan, the following episode had him back on to clarify what he was saying
• 39:19
  and gave him 10 minutes to solve his troubles. I wish he would have never did that because that
• 39:26
  would have ended Dave Smith's career.
• 39:28
  Instead, he gave him an out because
• 39:30
  he fucking loves him or something. Yeah, I don't
• 39:32
  get that either. Why is Piers Morgan always
• 39:34
  having Dave Smith on? Like, the guy doesn't
• 39:36
  offer anything than going, well,
• 39:38
  you know, it's bad to kill people, so
• 39:40
  I mean, what's your point? War is bad.
• 39:43
  Yeah.
• 39:44
  We agree it's bad, but it also solves
• 39:46
  problems. Not in a nice way,
• 39:48
  but sometimes it is necessary.
• 39:50
  Unfortunately. And the
• 39:52
  whole morality argument goes right out the fucking
• 39:54
  window when someone's trying to stab you right in the neck
• 39:56
  with a fucking knife, dude.
• 39:57
  So,
• 39:58
  it's like...
• 39:59
  He says it himself.
• 40:00
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  He says it himself.
• 40:02
  If somebody robbed my house,
• 40:03
  I would fucking defend it.
• 40:04
  Okay.
• 40:05
  Sure he would.
• 40:05
  Now, expand that
• 40:06
  to the country.
• 40:07
  Yeah.
• 40:08
  Please.
• 40:09
  Go ahead.
• 40:10
  A country of millions of people.
• 40:11
  I would love to see it.
• 40:11
  Right.
• 40:13
  You know, it's like...
• 40:14
  If that dude was
• 40:15
  our fucking
• 40:16
  Secretary of Defense
• 40:17
  or
• 40:18
  Foreign Policy Advisor,
• 40:20
  we'd be in trouble.
• 40:22
  Well, you know,
• 40:23
  and the whole thing about
• 40:24
  what his statement
• 40:25
  America is a terrorist organization
• 40:28
  or a terrorist country.
• 40:30
  And he should have proved it.
• 40:32
  You're right.
• 40:32
  Someone should have put him on the spot.
• 40:34
  Yeah, but nobody has the balls to do it.
• 40:36
  The only argument these guys have is,
• 40:38
  well, you know,
• 40:39
  maybe if you don't kill somebody,
• 40:41
  you don't kill a terrorist,
• 40:42
  there won't be another person
• 40:43
  who wants to take revenge
• 40:44
  and breed another terrorist.
• 40:47
  And then all we're doing
• 40:48
  is just breeding terrorists
• 40:49
  by killing people.
• 40:50
  Why don't we just leave them alone?
• 40:51
  And it's like,
• 40:52
  it's our fault that terrorists exist,
• 40:55
  basically is the argument.
• 40:56
  But it's like,
• 40:57
  well,
• 40:58
  kind of goes both ways.
• 40:59
  You kill American soldiers,
• 41:00
  what American soldiers want to do,
• 41:01
  they kind of want to come back
• 41:02
  and fucking kill you, right?
• 41:03
  So it's like,
• 41:04
  what's the argument, dude?
• 41:07
  You know,
• 41:08
  revenge begets revenge.
• 41:09
  I mean,
• 41:09
  I don't know what to tell you.
• 41:11
  I know,
• 41:11
  I know,
• 41:12
  I know this guy is like
• 41:13
  two hours of material,
• 41:14
  but it just,
• 41:15
  like,
• 41:17
  I just wish
• 41:19
  for that guy,
• 41:20
  people would ask him
• 41:21
  to go ahead and do it.
• 41:23
  Please,
• 41:23
  expand on that.
• 41:25
  argue that America is a terrorist organization.
• 41:27
  I'd love to hear it.
• 41:29
  Or when he sits there and he says,
• 41:30
  this is a war for Israel.
• 41:32
  How is it a war for Israel, Dave?
• 41:35
  How is it a war for Israel?
• 41:36
  Can you explain that?
• 41:37
  I'd love to hear this.
• 41:39
  Or BB's got Trump under his thumb.
• 41:42
  How is that working out?
• 41:45
  Just simple questions.
• 41:46
  How is BB kicking his ass?
• 41:49
  Yeah.
• 41:50
  I mean, he just sat there and cussed him out
• 41:52
  during the 12-day war,
• 41:53
  and then he just called him up right now
• 41:55
  that stopped bombing Lebanon.
• 41:56
  Lebanon hasn't had a bomb
• 41:57
  in a few days.
• 41:58
  So who's kicking whose ass?
• 42:01
  You know what I'm saying?
• 42:03
  It's the fact that
• 42:04
  a lot of these guys
• 42:05
  are never truly challenged.
• 42:07
  And then when they are,
• 42:08
  they do the shit
• 42:09
  that they do all the time.
• 42:10
  I'm just asking questions.
• 42:12
  I'm just a fucking comedian.
• 42:14
  I don't know.
• 42:15
  This is nutty.
• 42:16
  Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:20
  Well, you know,
• 42:21
  guys like Dave Smith
• 42:22
  live in a bubble.
• 42:23
  and even his information and history
• 42:25
  comes from his friends and who surrounds him.
• 42:28
  I think the guy has a very surface level
• 42:30
  understanding of things.
• 42:32
  And the whole thing that kills him about this Iran war
• 42:35
  are the people like Anna Kasparian and Cenk Uygur
• 42:40
  and these guys that are screaming about
• 42:42
  military boots on the ground, bad.
• 42:46
  Yes, we agree.
• 42:47
  We don't want that to happen.
• 42:48
  But then they kind of talk shit about
• 42:50
  the military industrial complex and the military
• 42:52
  and the people who serve
• 42:53
  and they don't want to be there
• 42:54
  and they don't...
• 42:55
  It's like none of these guys
• 42:56
  have skin in the game.
• 42:57
  Like, there are people
• 42:59
  who have family members
• 43:00
  actually serving,
• 43:01
  but all these big bloated,
• 43:03
  bloviated fucktards
• 43:05
  that are just running their mouths
• 43:07
  don't have anybody serving
• 43:08
  because if they did,
• 43:09
  they'd be talking about it
• 43:11
  and they're not.
• 43:12
  None of them.
• 43:13
  Dave Smith,
• 43:14
  Kasparian,
• 43:14
  Cenk Uygur,
• 43:15
  fucking even Piers Morgan,
• 43:17
  like Joe Rogan,
• 43:18
  none of these guys
• 43:19
  have anybody out there
• 43:20
  that they know
• 43:20
  that's actually in the shit right now.
• 43:22
  And that's what kills me.
• 43:24
  And it's like, so maybe this is the good segue for you to talk about how you feel as a parent.
• 43:31
  Because we never thought that, like, Kyle's been in the Marines for a bit, right?
• 43:35
  We never thought that he would see action because the world was kind of like semi-stable, right?
• 43:42
  And then all of a sudden this comes up.
• 43:44
  And he's just doing his job.
• 43:45
  And I'm not going to put him on the spot or get, you know, try to tell you like what he's telling you or whatever.
• 43:50
  Because, you know, we're not going to do that.
• 43:51
  The guy's, he's a legit Marine.
• 43:52
  Like he's, he's all about serving his country.
• 43:55
  So the reality is, what is it really like though?
• 43:58
  As a father, like you're, you're going through this right now, everything happening.
• 44:03
  What's the fucking truth behind the matter?
• 44:05
  What do you have to tell people like Anna Kasparian and fucking Cenk Uygur and, you know, Dave Smith and all these other idiots that are just fucking blowhardy windbags?
• 44:15
  Well, from the outset, I know a lot more than they do.
• 44:19
  I'll just say that.
• 44:20
  yeah but I'm not
• 44:21
  I'm not putting on a spot
• 44:22
  in terms of what's happening
• 44:23
  like
• 44:24
  no I'm just
• 44:24
  that's just where I leave it
• 44:25
  I know a lot more than they do
• 44:27
  oh
• 44:27
  and every time they open their mouth
• 44:29
  every time they open their mouth
• 44:30
  they're 100% wrong
• 44:32
  all of them
• 44:33
  even Joe Kent
• 44:34
  100% wrong
• 44:35
  oh that guy
• 44:36
  they don't know what the fuck is going on
• 44:37
  yeah
• 44:37
  they just don't
• 44:39
  and that yeah
• 44:39
  as far as
• 44:41
  as far as a parent
• 44:42
  and a son
• 44:43
  and all that
• 44:44
  basically
• 44:46
  this has been Kyle's dream
• 44:49
  since he was seven.
• 44:51
  He chased it.
• 44:52
  He's achieved it.
• 44:54
  I've never gotten in his way.
• 44:57
  And I've supported him.
• 44:59
  And that's all you can do as a parent.
• 45:03
  He's going to...
• 45:06
  The possibility of having a conflict
• 45:08
  is always going to be there
• 45:10
  because that's part of the job.
• 45:11
  Same thing if you're a cop, right?
• 45:12
  You're going to get shot at.
• 45:13
  Maybe you will.
• 45:14
  Maybe you won't.
• 45:16
  It's always the risk level.
• 45:18
  and as a parent, you just got to like accept that it could happen.
• 45:23
  And you just hope that he comes home in one piece every single time he goes out,
• 45:29
  you know, just like any high risk job, right?
• 45:32
  I mean, that's the best you can do as a parent.
• 45:38
  Maintain the communication as best you can.
• 45:41
  And that's just kind of where it is.
• 45:44
  You know, I'm highly proud of him.
• 45:47
  like I've
• 45:48
  I've had dreams
• 45:50
  and I've pussed out
• 45:51
  like he had a dream
• 45:52
  and he went
• 45:52
  and fucking nailed it
• 45:53
  and he just took it home
• 45:55
  he's like this is mine
• 45:56
  he's kind of an
• 45:57
  all or nothing type of guy
• 45:58
  it's like
• 45:58
  I'm either gonna do it
• 46:00
  or I'm not
• 46:00
  yeah
• 46:01
  and that's a good quality
• 46:02
  to have
• 46:03
  especially
• 46:04
  as a marine
• 46:05
  well fuck
• 46:07
  I wish
• 46:08
  I wish
• 46:10
  a lot of people
• 46:12
  had that
• 46:14
  that mindset
• 46:15
  because
• 46:15
  this is a completely
• 46:17
  this would be a segue
• 46:18
  in a completely different thing
• 46:19
  about degeneracy
• 46:20
  and the fall of fucking
• 46:21
  great, you know,
• 46:22
  generations,
• 46:23
  but I'm glad.
• 46:25
  Yeah.
• 46:26
  We could.
• 46:29
  Keep that in your back pocket.
• 46:30
  We might get there.
• 46:31
  Yeah.
• 46:32
  We'll turn to California
• 46:33
  and the election
• 46:34
  and everything will just
• 46:34
  fucking implode.
• 46:35
  Actually, we are.
• 46:37
  After you make this point,
• 46:38
  I was going to bring up
• 46:39
  your whole,
• 46:41
  what do you think
• 46:41
  on Eric Swalwell
• 46:42
  and what's going to happen
• 46:43
  to the gubernatorial race,
• 46:46
  I mean.
• 46:46
  Well, I'm glad he did not get that.
• 46:51
  And I was able to get him to maintain and achieve.
• 47:00
  And give him values that most parents today just don't fucking do.
• 47:08
  And that's just kind of where it is right now.
• 47:11
  Every conversation I have does feel like the last one.
• 47:16
  Because you mentally have to prepare.
• 47:18
  And that's it.
• 47:19
  That's just kind of where I'm at with it.
• 47:22
  We haven't heard from many people,
• 47:24
  even on social media,
• 47:26
  who have even talked about this.
• 47:28
  You know there's somebody out there
• 47:30
  who knows somebody who's serving,
• 47:31
  but no one's saying anything.
• 47:32
  It's just so weird.
• 47:34
  In previous conflicts and wars,
• 47:35
  we would actually hear about
• 47:36
  the other side of it.
• 47:38
  What are the people serving going through?
• 47:41
  What are the families going through?
• 47:42
  What's the real issue
• 47:44
  as far as being emotionally prepared,
• 47:46
  mentally prepared for all this.
• 47:48
  But instead, that's being buried.
• 47:50
  You have people talking shit about our military
• 47:54
  because, oh, they're just out there
• 47:57
  supporting the great American Satan,
• 48:00
  the terrorist regime that is America.
• 48:03
  All they're doing is going out and fighting for Israel.
• 48:06
  And that's all everyone's saying.
• 48:07
  They're spreading all this bullshit.
• 48:09
  What do you have to say to those people?
• 48:10
  they're all cunts
• 48:14
  that's it
• 48:15
  they're all cunts
• 48:16
  fucking perfect
• 48:17
  perfect word
• 48:17
  that's it
• 48:18
  they're all cunts
• 48:19
  just leave it there
• 48:19
  they're fucking cunts
• 48:20
  they're done
• 48:20
  they're just cunts
• 48:21
  just perfect example
• 48:23
  fucking Uyghur did it today
• 48:25
  yeah
• 48:25
  Donald Trump announced
• 48:26
  that the strait
• 48:27
  is in the works
• 48:29
  of being completely open
• 48:30
  but he still is going to
• 48:31
  maintain some ships
• 48:32
  on the Iranian coast
• 48:33
  and Cenk
• 48:35
  immediately to his
• 48:36
  you know
• 48:37
  two million followers
• 48:38
  he goes
• 48:38
  oh so the strait's not open
• 48:40
  And he's a fucking liar.
• 48:41
  And he just starts going down this rabbit hole of how Israel is controlling everything.
• 48:45
  Yeah.
• 48:46
  Or you get the other argument like, well, wasn't the straight open before?
• 48:50
  It's like, you guys missed the point.
• 48:52
  The point wasn't the straight.
• 48:54
  It wasn't just the blockading the blockade.
• 48:57
  It was squeezing the financial and revenue stream of Iran so they cannot fucking function.
• 49:05
  Like, what do you guys not get?
• 49:07
  If it was me, I told you this earlier on the phone today when we spoke.
• 49:09
  if I was in charge, I would have fucking
• 49:11
  bombed and decimated Cargill. That shit would have been gone.
• 49:14
  I don't give a fuck. All the oil,
• 49:15
  I don't care where it spilled. I would have took out
• 49:17
  their fucking storage facility. Done.
• 49:20
  Nobody gets fucking oil.
• 49:21
  Fuck your tanker. No one's getting any.
• 49:23
  Cut that out. Then I would have
• 49:25
  went in and bombed their damn fucking
• 49:27
  oil fields. Then I would have sent in
• 49:29
  the boots and just
• 49:30
  maintained and guarded the
• 49:33
  oil fields. After that,
• 49:35
  if he did that in the first week, we wouldn't even be
• 49:37
  talking about this right now.
• 49:38
  They would have gave up.
• 49:40
  It would have been done
• 49:40
  a long time ago.
• 49:41
  So you have to say that,
• 49:45
  I'm sorry,
• 49:46
  but it seems like
• 49:47
  Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump
• 49:48
  have a lot more restraint
• 49:49
  than someone like me
• 49:50
  because if I was in charge,
• 49:51
  I wouldn't be fucking around.
• 49:52
  Like, this would be done already.
• 49:53
  Like, no, no,
• 49:54
  we're just going to do this.
• 49:56
  Too bad, so sad, right?
• 49:58
  That would have been me.
• 49:59
  But I'm not in charge.
• 50:00
  Maybe it's better for the world.
• 50:02
  I'm not in charge.
• 50:03
  This is...
• 50:04
  what kills me
• 50:07
  is what the other
• 50:08
  and the other narrative
• 50:09
  floating around right now
• 50:10
  is the
• 50:12
  you know
• 50:13
  Donald Trump's working on
• 50:14
  whatever deal he feels
• 50:15
  is good for the country
• 50:16
  like I don't know what it is
• 50:17
  whatever it is
• 50:18
  but there's this thing
• 50:20
  floating around about
• 50:20
  how he's going to be paying
• 50:21
  for this and that
• 50:22
  whatever
• 50:23
  so everybody's been pulling out
• 50:25
  Obama's JCPOA
• 50:26
  and saying well
• 50:27
  but Obama didn't do
• 50:28
  half of this shit
• 50:30
  and he got it done
• 50:30
  you know
• 50:31
  he didn't spend this much money
• 50:32
  he did this
• 50:33
  and it's like
• 50:34
  you know the jcpoa was dog shit right you had to know like the inspectors weren't weren't uh
• 50:42
  the inspect well i'm going off the top of my head i'm hopefully i got this right i think the
• 50:47
  inspector part was like a pick them and choose them like there was no mandatory this is the group
• 50:53
  that's going to be looking at it every week or whatever the fuck it is that was like a pick them
• 50:57
  it was only for a couple of years
• 51:00
  of the enrichment thing
• 51:02
  the centrifuges
• 51:03
  they got to keep some
• 51:05
  there was just a whole bunch of shit
• 51:08
  and he did all that for 50
• 51:10
  or 60 billion dollars of unfrozen assets
• 51:12
  not 1.7 Isaiah Martin
• 51:14
  you fucking clown
• 51:17
  another dork dude
• 51:20
  I can give you names for days
• 51:22
  another fucking dork in the war
• 51:23
  there's so much of that shit
• 51:26
  it's like well
• 51:27
  here's trump's idea i'm gonna i want a 20-year deal for 20 billion dollars i want all of your
• 51:36
  centrifuges not just some i want to i want all the material not just a couple even the dust that's
• 51:44
  under the fucking rock that's his deal and if you don't take it i'm gonna blow everything up
• 51:50
  i think that's a better deal than what obama threw at him well obama obama okay but obama
• 51:56
  wasn't like hard line on the regime
• 51:59
  for whatever it was, right?
• 52:01
  Yeah. And
• 52:02
  if we're looking at Obama and even before that,
• 52:07
  we're looking at, I mean,
• 52:10
  years and years of appeasing Iran
• 52:12
  for whatever fucking reason,
• 52:13
  instead of actually taking action
• 52:15
  and calling them on their shit.
• 52:16
  It would always be like,
• 52:18
  hold on, Iran,
• 52:19
  you're getting a little fucking out of control.
• 52:20
  We got to pull it back.
• 52:22
  And they would go,
• 52:23
  fuck you, death to America,
• 52:24
  I'll burn you, whatever.
• 52:25
  And they would say that.
• 52:26
  And they would go,
• 52:26
  oh, okay, well, here's some money.
• 52:28
  Will this work?
• 52:29
  What if I give you like a few million dollars,
• 52:31
  like a month?
• 52:31
  Is that okay?
• 52:32
  Can we work something out?
• 52:33
  Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 52:34
  We're good.
• 52:35
  Okay.
• 52:35
  But then Trump's like, that doesn't make any sense to me from a business standpoint.
• 52:39
  Like, why would I pay you to do shit you should already be doing?
• 52:41
  Why are we paying the world's largest, most recognized sponsor of terrorism?
• 52:48
  Like, why are we funding their terrorism?
• 52:50
  Does that make sense?
• 52:51
  Like, why are we doing this?
• 52:53
  And it's like, Obama had that deal.
• 52:56
  And it's like, okay, cool.
• 52:59
  And the argument was like, well, it was their assets.
• 53:01
  They're just giving it back.
• 53:03
  Hold on.
• 53:04
  We have the largest state sponsor of terrorism
• 53:06
  recognized around the world by just about every fucking nation there is.
• 53:10
  And we're paying them so that they won't build a nuclear weapon?
• 53:13
  Like, you're trusting the largest state sponsor of terrorism
• 53:16
  to not fucking do that?
• 53:18
  I hate that technicality too, dude.
• 53:20
  Right?
• 53:20
  We weren't really paying them.
• 53:21
  We were just giving them back their money.
• 53:23
  It's like, well, if you unfreeze it to get something,
• 53:27
  aren't you not paying them?
• 53:29
  are you are we not
• 53:31
  where the are we all retarded
• 53:33
  here or like if I unfreeze
• 53:35
  10 bucks and hand it to you I've just paid you 10
• 53:37
  bucks you know I wanted to bring
• 53:39
  something here up here
• 53:40
  because I'm Piers Morgan you know
• 53:42
  met he a song met he a song that
• 53:44
  oh that fucking he tried
• 53:46
  to make the argument on a recent episode I forgot
• 53:48
  who it was debating and he was
• 53:50
  like what about the NPT agreement
• 53:52
  what about the NPT you know you know Israel
• 53:54
  never signed it but Iran did Iran signed
• 53:56
  well you know who else didn't sign it fucking
• 53:58
  India and Pakistan.
• 54:00
  Yeah, exactly.
• 54:02
  Those two are nuclear powers,
• 54:03
  like confirmed.
• 54:05
  That dude,
• 54:06
  Medhi Hassan
• 54:09
  has never held
• 54:10
  his own people
• 54:10
  accountable for shit.
• 54:12
  No.
• 54:13
  He never does.
• 54:13
  And I don't take anything
• 54:15
  he says seriously
• 54:16
  because he worked
• 54:16
  for Al Jazeera,
• 54:17
  which was backed by Qatar,
• 54:19
  paid for,
• 54:19
  and all that bullshit.
• 54:20
  So that dude
• 54:21
  is a fucking mouthpiece
• 54:22
  for the Muslim community.
• 54:24
  That's exactly what he is.
• 54:24
  He will defend it
• 54:25
  to the death.
• 54:26
  And that's why
• 54:26
  when he debates,
• 54:27
  no one says it.
• 54:29
  I would just say,
• 54:29
  dude, you're a Muslim mouthpiece.
• 54:30
  Shut the fuck up.
• 54:31
  Renounce your citizenship
• 54:32
  and get on the boat.
• 54:33
  Well, then he pulls the race card, right?
• 54:35
  Oh, that's racist.
• 54:35
  Yeah, I am racist.
• 54:36
  Yes, sure.
• 54:38
  Cool.
• 54:39
  But what if I'm just criticizing
• 54:40
  your religion
• 54:42
  that practitioners
• 54:44
  are using as the backbone
• 54:46
  for their fucking oppression
• 54:47
  and conquer-like mentality
• 54:50
  and terrorism?
• 54:52
  Oh, you're still being racist.
• 54:54
  Well, that's not being racist.
• 54:55
  I'm criticizing the actual religion
• 54:57
  and maybe the religious practices,
• 54:59
  it could be taken out of context,
• 55:00
  but that's not being racist, you idiot.
• 55:02
  It would be like if you criticize Catholicism.
• 55:05
  Does that mean you're racist against white people
• 55:07
  or maybe black people or brown people?
• 55:10
  Because everybody could be a Catholic.
• 55:13
  Yeah.
• 55:13
  He's also...
• 55:15
  I can't take it.
• 55:17
  Not only is the Qatar connection there
• 55:20
  that kind of makes it even fun,
• 55:22
  makes it more irritating,
• 55:24
  is that he says he apologized for what he said,
• 55:29
  but I don't buy it.
• 55:31
  I think he did it to just advance his career.
• 55:33
  But when he sat there and he called Jews, Christians,
• 55:42
  white people, dogs, and cattle,
• 55:44
  that whole statement,
• 55:45
  it's like Dave Smith.
• 55:50
  There's no going back, dude.
• 55:51
  You've just literally did the most racist, anti-Semitic, whatever you want to call it.
• 55:58
  But I don't know, dude.
• 56:00
  He's still on TV.
• 56:01
  I mean, somebody doesn't care.
• 56:02
  I don't know.
• 56:03
  Because he says that the world's against brown people and they hit Muslims and everybody's
• 56:07
  bigoted and racist.
• 56:08
  And we should just be one kumbaya world as long as we're bending the knee to the regime
• 56:13
  and maybe terrorists are just misunderstood.
• 56:17
  I think that's the argument, right?
• 56:18
  we're wrong because we won't stand for
• 56:22
  you know unfettered
• 56:24
  terrorism against
• 56:26
  western nations and the desire to conquer
• 56:28
  the world and if you don't convert
• 56:30
  you're dead or you're a slave right so whatever
• 56:31
  I misunderstand the suicide vest
• 56:33
  yeah you misunderstood that
• 56:35
  that's just a fucking ornament
• 56:37
  you misunderstood the concept of martyrdom
• 56:38
  you misunderstood the reason that they're doing this because they feel
• 56:41
  they're going to have a bunch of virgins
• 56:42
  up in heaven
• 56:44
  I mean it's ridiculous
• 56:47
  these people have been brainwashed,
• 56:49
  have been captured,
• 56:50
  and it doesn't mean that Islam itself is bad.
• 56:52
  I mean, there are modern Muslim practitioners
• 56:54
  who don't practice it literally.
• 56:58
  Let's be honest.
• 56:58
  If we practiced the Old Testament of Christianity,
• 57:02
  we'd be stoning people right now.
• 57:05
  Yeah, and we'd have to wear different clothes, dude.
• 57:07
  We're not dressed right.
• 57:08
  You know what I'm saying?
• 57:09
  It's like, come on.
• 57:12
  Just call a spade a spade.
• 57:15
  Call a rock a rock.
• 57:16
  Call a fucking duck a duck.
• 57:18
  I mean, it is what it is.
• 57:20
  It's not racist or bigoted to call out people who have the intent of literally ruining your fucking life.
• 57:28
  Sorry.
• 57:29
  It's just not.
• 57:31
  What I don't get is how they don't see it.
• 57:39
  You know, it's like they go to an area.
• 57:41
  They populate.
• 57:43
  They do their preachy preachy.
• 57:44
  they get whatever group they get to as long as big as they get it and convert
• 57:48
  whatever but that at that point they don't they don't pull the rule book out
• 57:55
  yet and once they get to a certain level of control then they go all right here's
• 58:00
  our rule book you got to wear that on your head you got to wear this you can't
• 58:04
  rock up you know go over here if you do all that we're gonna hang you we're
• 58:08
  gonna chop your face off yeah once I mean if if the playbook is the same and
• 58:13
  It's been the same for,
• 58:14
  what is it,
• 58:14
  1,500 years or some shit?
• 58:18
  Yeah.
• 58:18
  I'm not all up on my...
• 58:19
  It's been over 1,400 years.
• 58:20
  Is it 1,400?
• 58:21
  I'm not up on the Islamic thing.
• 58:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 58:25
  If it's been the same playbook
• 58:26
  for at least 1,000 years or more,
• 58:29
  how come nobody sees it
• 58:31
  when it happens?
• 58:32
  This should be a John Madden moment.
• 58:35
  There it is.
• 58:36
  It's right there.
• 58:37
  Circle jerk right there.
• 58:38
  Nobody sees it?
• 58:40
  It's mind-boggling to me.
• 58:42
  I don't know.
• 58:43
  It's because they're playing on the Western mindset.
• 58:49
  They're like, oh, we're supposed to be good people who are empathetic, that we're inclusive.
• 58:55
  We have open arms.
• 58:56
  We accept everybody.
• 58:58
  And because of that, they're taking advantage of it.
• 59:01
  They're using it against us, other nations.
• 59:05
  And this is a soft conquering that's been going on for a long time.
• 59:09
  I didn't think we were talking about this, but fuck this.
• 59:11
  Go for it.
• 59:12
  hey without firing a shot you can take something
• 59:14
  yeah exactly they're conquering
• 59:17
  it's a soft conquering it's a non-kinetic conquering
• 59:19
  of other nations and how are they doing it
• 59:21
  through appeasement
• 59:23
  for one at first
• 59:25
  and then it's through manipulating
• 59:27
  your
• 59:29
  or nations like the UK
• 59:31
  for example or even actually here in the USA
• 59:33
  they're manipulating the
• 59:35
  the thought of
• 59:37
  being inclusive and accepting
• 59:39
  and open arms and you have a right to be
• 59:41
  whatever you want to be and love who you love and do all this.
• 59:43
  And that goes down a different conversational
• 59:45
  path. But regardless, they're
• 59:47
  using that against us. They're like, oh, wait,
• 59:49
  I can't practice my religion? Well, that's not in your constitution.
• 59:52
  Oh, I can't say
• 59:53
  death to America? That's just free speech.
• 59:55
  Oh, I can't practice
• 59:57
  Sharia law? Well, I'm not imposing
• 59:59
  on you. I'm imposing on my own household.
• 1:00:01
  And then it goes from that to like, oh, we're going to create our own
• 1:00:03
  gated communities with our own schools and our
• 1:00:05
  own police. Like, whoa, wait a minute.
• 1:00:08
  It sounds like you're kind of creating
• 1:00:09
  a nation within a nation.
• 1:00:11
  here. And then they start getting
• 1:00:13
  into politics because they
• 1:00:15
  say the right things to the people who
• 1:00:16
  basically they're using the
• 1:00:19
  socialist Marxist playbook to get
• 1:00:21
  support from the younger generations
• 1:00:23
  who don't have money, aren't established, and
• 1:00:25
  they feel that the world is like
• 1:00:27
  stepping on their neck and not letting them get ahead.
• 1:00:29
  And then all of a sudden, here you are.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah, you make sense. Let's put you in power.
• 1:00:33
  And this happened in the UK.
• 1:00:35
  Now you got mostly Muslim
• 1:00:37
  or Islamic practitioners in
• 1:00:39
  charge of many areas. And what are they doing?
• 1:00:41
  they're changing policy to their benefit.
• 1:00:43
  Right?
• 1:00:44
  The other thing they're doing,
• 1:00:45
  they're having more babies than everyone else.
• 1:00:49
  I know that's a strange thing to say,
• 1:00:50
  but they're breeding everybody out.
• 1:00:52
  Of course, like,
• 1:00:53
  and that's my counter to the argument that,
• 1:00:55
  well, you know, Islam is the fastest,
• 1:00:56
  most progressively, you know,
• 1:01:01
  accepted and growing religion in the world.
• 1:01:04
  Well, yeah, because every time you turn around,
• 1:01:05
  there's five more babies being born.
• 1:01:08
  And the reason they're able to do it?
• 1:01:10
  It's part of their practice.
• 1:01:11
  not only that
• 1:01:12
  is they know
• 1:01:13
  that we're going to
• 1:01:14
  pay for it
• 1:01:14
  right
• 1:01:16
  yeah
• 1:01:17
  they got the safety net
• 1:01:18
  the social safety net
• 1:01:19
  our country
• 1:01:20
  our country
• 1:01:22
  is loaded in
• 1:01:22
  welfare programs
• 1:01:23
  by whatever state
• 1:01:24
  you get whatever
• 1:01:25
  and if you go
• 1:01:26
  into Europe
• 1:01:27
  all they do
• 1:01:28
  is
• 1:01:28
  is create
• 1:01:29
  welfare programs
• 1:01:30
  because
• 1:01:31
  they can't
• 1:01:32
  they just
• 1:01:32
  think we're going
• 1:01:34
  to defend them
• 1:01:35
  or something
• 1:01:35
  like every fucking
• 1:01:36
  moment
• 1:01:37
  and that gives them
• 1:01:38
  the opportunity
• 1:01:39
  to blow that money
• 1:01:39
  on stupid shit
• 1:01:40
  But the best example of this in America is Dearborn, Michigan.
• 1:01:51
  These guys started this shit back in the early 40s, I believe.
• 1:01:58
  And then they had their first mosque in 48.
• 1:02:01
  And then they just stayed there.
• 1:02:04
  And then it grew into what it is now, which is like a 92% Muslim city.
• 1:02:10
  And now they got the whole city council, the whole mayor, the police force.
• 1:02:13
  It's all Muslim.
• 1:02:15
  And anybody that's white is on eggshells that lives there.
• 1:02:20
  Anybody that's black is on eggshells, unless you convert and then, you know, we're all friends.
• 1:02:25
  That is the best example of a takeover in America.
• 1:02:29
  But nobody gives a shit.
• 1:02:31
  They look at it and they go, well, you know, it's America.
• 1:02:34
  Oh, no, no.
• 1:02:34
  And now?
• 1:02:35
  Because you got to be sensitive, accepting, and inclusive.
• 1:02:38
  But what happened now?
• 1:02:40
  You know, it's always like, oh, they're the minority.
• 1:02:43
  We hold on.
• 1:02:44
  We got to be fair just because you don understand their culture doesn mean that they can practice their culture Well I sorry you came to America Maybe you should integrate into the American culture
• 1:02:56
  And I know it's like a
• 1:02:57
  melting pot, some people say.
• 1:02:59
  But we do have our own ways of doing things.
• 1:03:01
  And it's not shutting out the rest of
• 1:03:03
  America and living
• 1:03:04
  under the direction of
• 1:03:07
  the book, which is the Quran,
• 1:03:09
  or even trying to impose
• 1:03:11
  Sharia law, whether
• 1:03:13
  it's being hidden, subversively,
• 1:03:15
  whatever, you're still doing it.
• 1:03:17
  And that example also goes, I forgot what city
• 1:03:19
  it was, but it was also done
• 1:03:20
  in Kansas.
• 1:03:23
  And also, you're seeing it in Texas.
• 1:03:25
  They're fighting that fight right now.
• 1:03:27
  Yeah, because they put up
• 1:03:28
  I think one Sharia court or some shit.
• 1:03:31
  Right, and then there was that community.
• 1:03:33
  I forgot the name of it. I did an episode on it.
• 1:03:35
  But, you know, there's a lot going on
• 1:03:37
  and it's almost like
• 1:03:38
  they know how to
• 1:03:41
  destroy the West from within just by
• 1:03:42
  using our laws
• 1:03:45
  and our feelings against us, right?
• 1:03:47
  Because nobody wants to be called a racist or a bigot.
• 1:03:51
  It's like, well, I don't see anybody talking about, you know,
• 1:03:55
  getting rid of the Japanese or the Brazilians or Germans that live here
• 1:04:00
  or the Canadians.
• 1:04:01
  Why?
• 1:04:02
  Because they live within our society and they realize it's America
• 1:04:05
  and they made it their home.
• 1:04:07
  And, you know, they're not trying to impose their Japanese culture,
• 1:04:12
  for example, across the United States of America.
• 1:04:15
  and calling you a racist if you don't bend the knee to the way they do things that they would do in Japan, for example.
• 1:04:19
  But those guys have a brain between their ears.
• 1:04:25
  So yeah, they practice their culture with respect to what's going on around them.
• 1:04:30
  So an example that I've noticed, and I've seen this posted everywhere,
• 1:04:36
  is the Muslims will do that prayer five times a day, right?
• 1:04:40
  But they will do it no matter where the fuck they are.
• 1:04:43
  they don't care if they're in the middle of the streets
• 1:04:46
  sitting in their car, they don't care if they're on an airplane
• 1:04:48
  they will stop the world
• 1:04:50
  to do their little 5-10 minute prayer
• 1:04:52
  and they pull their rug out and everything
• 1:04:54
  and it's like
• 1:04:56
  dude, no one's stopping you
• 1:04:58
  but
• 1:04:59
  you can't be in the middle of the fucking freeway
• 1:05:02
  move your ass over here
• 1:05:04
  you can pull over and do it
• 1:05:06
  at the gas station
• 1:05:07
  do it respectfully to where everybody else can still function
• 1:05:10
  not
• 1:05:11
  not block anything
• 1:05:13
  or the guy that
• 1:05:14
  there's a guy that did it
• 1:05:16
  in an airplane
• 1:05:16
  right down the middle of the aisle
• 1:05:18
  and they couldn't take off
• 1:05:18
  until he was done.
• 1:05:20
  It's like, dude, no.
• 1:05:21
  You can do it in your seat
• 1:05:22
  like a fucking grown-up
• 1:05:24
  and not be a fucking dick
• 1:05:26
  to everybody.
• 1:05:28
  That, okay,
• 1:05:30
  so but that is just them.
• 1:05:32
  That's just a tangent of mine.
• 1:05:33
  No, no, no, no.
• 1:05:34
  What that is
• 1:05:35
  is them trying to exercise
• 1:05:37
  their power over the area.
• 1:05:39
  There are certain dominants
• 1:05:40
  because
• 1:05:41
  from what I understand,
• 1:05:43
  that is not part
• 1:05:45
  of their practice.
• 1:05:46
  It's not accepted to do that because you're
• 1:05:49
  disrupting everybody's
• 1:05:51
  lives, right?
• 1:05:53
  My rebuttal to all
• 1:05:55
  that is this. Your religion,
• 1:05:57
  your problem.
• 1:05:59
  You know what times you need a prayer.
• 1:06:01
  Fucking plan accordingly.
• 1:06:03
  I don't need a bell, dude.
• 1:06:04
  You know you can go inside.
• 1:06:06
  You don't just stop traffic
• 1:06:08
  and then all of a sudden you look around and you go,
• 1:06:10
  oh, look, there's 500 other Muslims that happen to be here at the same time.
• 1:06:14
  And we're just going to go ahead and bow down and stop traffic for like an hour or so.
• 1:06:20
  That's bullshit.
• 1:06:20
  You know when you have to pray, right?
• 1:06:23
  It's like if a Catholic was praying the rosary and they decided that they walk into a presentation
• 1:06:32
  or movie and said, I need all silence, everybody, because I'm going to pray the rosary right
• 1:06:36
  now and they go through every
• 1:06:39
  B and they're just going to do their thing.
• 1:06:41
  Like, is that acceptable?
• 1:06:42
  No. Like, could we do that?
• 1:06:44
  No, but I should be able to
• 1:06:46
  run you over in the freeway if you stop on it and you
• 1:06:48
  get out. I got shit to do.
• 1:06:50
  I hear that. I don't give a fuck what you're doing.
• 1:06:53
  Go ahead. You're going to become a fucking
• 1:06:54
  speed bump. But that's
• 1:06:56
  just a reality, but we...
• 1:06:59
  Okay.
• 1:07:01
  I don't know.
• 1:07:03
  I think
• 1:07:04
  Western nations need to wake up. They need to get their balls
• 1:07:07
  back, especially the UK.
• 1:07:10
  America,
• 1:07:11
  I mean, we're on the verge. There's a lot of people that
• 1:07:13
  won't let this happen, but we still have enough
• 1:07:14
  brainwashed fucking idiots that will let
• 1:07:17
  it happen.
• 1:07:19
  It's just where we're at. All we can do is hope for
• 1:07:21
  the best. With that being
• 1:07:23
  said, we're here in America, so let's segue out
• 1:07:24
  of this whole Middle East Islam
• 1:07:27
  Muslim discussion.
• 1:07:29
  Let's talk about Swalwell.
• 1:07:32
  Thoughts?
• 1:07:33
  Eric Swalwell.
• 1:07:34
  Eric Suave put his dick everywhere
• 1:07:36
  and he got kicked out of the race.
• 1:07:38
  There's my report for the day.
• 1:07:40
  And that's accurate.
• 1:07:42
  It's pretty accurate.
• 1:07:43
  Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  I don't understand that dude.
• 1:07:48
  You want to be the fucking man,
• 1:07:51
  but you keep stepping on the rake.
• 1:07:54
  You can't be this retarded.
• 1:07:56
  It's like,
• 1:07:57
  just go home and fuck your wife.
• 1:08:01
  Jeez.
• 1:08:01
  No, it's the truth though.
• 1:08:04
  Why are you at the club
• 1:08:06
  trying to grab some woman's tits?
• 1:08:08
  Go home and do that.
• 1:08:11
  Save yourself the heartache.
• 1:08:12
  Aside from his sexual misconduct...
• 1:08:15
  What's funny is
• 1:08:16
  he will chastise other people
• 1:08:18
  for being...
• 1:08:19
  He attacked Trump for having an affair.
• 1:08:22
  It's like...
• 1:08:23
  Yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Right.
• 1:08:27
  This is what I want to talk about
• 1:08:30
  regarding Swalwell.
• 1:08:31
  Look, we all know he's a piece of shit, period.
• 1:08:35
  And here's what's interesting to me.
• 1:08:37
  The Democrat Party has been covering for his ass for many years.
• 1:08:40
  All right.
• 1:08:40
  He was supposed to be Pelosi's boy, the rising star.
• 1:08:44
  And this guy gets caught banging, fang, fang, banging, fang, bang, right?
• 1:08:48
  Whatever.
• 1:08:49
  And he stayed on the intelligence committee, right?
• 1:08:50
  Yes.
• 1:08:51
  Stayed on the fucking intelligence committee after fucking a goddamn Chinese spy for two
• 1:08:57
  fucking years.
• 1:08:57
  and then supposedly nothing happens to him after all the questioning
• 1:09:01
  because, yeah, you know, whatever.
• 1:09:03
  They just put their hands up and then he claims nothing happened.
• 1:09:07
  Okay, fine.
• 1:09:08
  Democrats or the Democratic Party covers for him.
• 1:09:10
  He's still around.
• 1:09:12
  Why?
• 1:09:13
  I don't know.
• 1:09:14
  So what is different between all the reports, allegations,
• 1:09:17
  and banging fang fang?
• 1:09:20
  What's different about that versus all of a sudden there's more reports
• 1:09:24
  and allegations that come out now and all of a sudden
• 1:09:27
  the Democrat Party's like, oh, we can't back anymore.
• 1:09:29
  We're done. Like, why? What's the
• 1:09:31
  play there? What's the real play?
• 1:09:33
  It's not that they don't want to back
• 1:09:35
  him and they're not going to fight and
• 1:09:36
  dismiss all this.
• 1:09:38
  There's something else going on here.
• 1:09:40
  Why now? Why all of a sudden?
• 1:09:43
  I think it's, I think now
• 1:09:45
  it's just too many women.
• 1:09:47
  You think it's that?
• 1:09:48
  Okay, did you or did you not fuck a spy?
• 1:09:51
  Alright, maybe. We'll debate
• 1:09:53
  that, whatever. But now
• 1:09:55
  you say
• 1:09:56
  you spend your whole career talking about how you're an angel
• 1:09:59
  and everybody else is
• 1:10:01
  having affairs and stuff
• 1:10:04
  and they're all evil people.
• 1:10:08
  And then right now,
• 1:10:10
  out of nowhere,
• 1:10:11
  you got three or four women
• 1:10:13
  saying that you were being a silly man?
• 1:10:16
  I mean,
• 1:10:17
  the dots at some point
• 1:10:19
  are going to have to, you know,
• 1:10:21
  and I think
• 1:10:23
  they had to
• 1:10:26
  I think the Republicans waited to do an even trade because we had our own guy that had an affair and she set herself on fire.
• 1:10:35
  So I think that we had to wait for a fair trade there.
• 1:10:39
  So I can see that,
• 1:10:40
  that,
• 1:10:41
  you know,
• 1:10:41
  to keep the ratio,
• 1:10:42
  but all the Democrats running around saying that,
• 1:10:45
  that it was completely,
• 1:10:48
  um,
• 1:10:49
  complete bullshit that they did this because they could have got rid of their guy before that.
• 1:10:56
  and they wanted this and that.
• 1:10:57
  It's like, well, why are you...
• 1:10:59
  You're only defending it because you lost...
• 1:11:02
  You didn't exactly gain a seat.
• 1:11:04
  Well, so there's a theory that...
• 1:11:07
  And I don't believe this theory, honestly.
• 1:11:09
  I mean, I know it's not a definite answer.
• 1:11:11
  Democrats made this choice
• 1:11:12
  so that it forces maybe a split
• 1:11:16
  and the support for the Republican candidacy
• 1:11:21
  for California governor, right?
• 1:11:23
  that's what's being pushed out there.
• 1:11:26
  I don't think that's the reality.
• 1:11:29
  They also say that, well, getting rid of Eric Swalwell
• 1:11:32
  kind of like consolidates support
• 1:11:37
  within the Democratic candidacy for, again,
• 1:11:39
  for governorship.
• 1:11:40
  But you only took one guy out of the play.
• 1:11:41
  You still have multiple people running.
• 1:11:44
  And so I don't think that's the truth either.
• 1:11:46
  I think, this is my theory,
• 1:11:49
  I think that California,
• 1:11:51
  the Democrat Party definitely wants.
• 1:11:53
  They still want a Democratic governor.
• 1:11:54
  But, you know, if the legislation is still all Democrat majority, it ain't going to matter anyway.
• 1:11:58
  It's just going to be, you know, it's going to be a lame duck governor.
• 1:12:03
  Yeah, I mean, I...
• 1:12:04
  The thing is, I think, I think my theory, I think you heard me say this.
• 1:12:09
  I think my theory is this.
• 1:12:10
  I think they're getting ready for 2028 presidency because now they can claim we took the moral high ground.
• 1:12:14
  Look what we did.
• 1:12:16
  We're able to take one of our rising stars and, you know what I mean?
• 1:12:21
  I guess.
• 1:12:21
  Reign them in.
• 1:12:22
  we're able to say, nope, we no longer can support that.
• 1:12:25
  Your actions are too egregious.
• 1:12:27
  We're not going to stand for that.
• 1:12:29
  That's not what we're about.
• 1:12:30
  That's not what America's about.
• 1:12:32
  You can't just go around banging, fang, fang,
• 1:12:35
  and then touching women inappropriately.
• 1:12:37
  So I think that's what the play is.
• 1:12:39
  I think the Democratic Party knows
• 1:12:41
  that they have nothing else in their back pocket
• 1:12:43
  that's going to push them ahead in 2028.
• 1:12:46
  But if they start lining themselves out now
• 1:12:48
  to be the morally superior party,
• 1:12:51
  because as of now, let's be honest,
• 1:12:53
  the Republican Party isn't looking so good in that department.
• 1:12:56
  None of the parties.
• 1:12:58
  Neither side is.
• 1:12:59
  No, no, they aren't.
• 1:13:00
  But if we're just talking about the Epstein files,
• 1:13:03
  that is heavily critical more towards the Republican Party right now
• 1:13:10
  because of Trump than it is towards anybody in the Democratic Party.
• 1:13:14
  And this play here, this is just a theory, by the way, man.
• 1:13:17
  I don't know if it's really going to play out this way,
• 1:13:19
  But I think this here is signaling to America, like, we're the party of integrity.
• 1:13:25
  We're the party of moral superiority.
• 1:13:28
  And no, we're not going to stand for these things.
• 1:13:31
  I think that could be it.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah and I sure there enough idiots that buy it I mean anybody that owns an internet connection will know it all bullshit You know I mean let
• 1:13:47
  Okay, this is what I think.
• 1:13:54
  This is what I think.
• 1:13:55
  First off, the governor thing doesn't fucking mean anything
• 1:13:59
  because, like you said, it's a super majority.
• 1:14:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:14:03
  you know,
• 1:14:05
  they're going to have,
• 1:14:06
  you're going to,
• 1:14:06
  you got to change that
• 1:14:07
  before you can change the governor.
• 1:14:09
  If you get,
• 1:14:09
  you got to change that.
• 1:14:10
  Yeah.
• 1:14:11
  It's like 95% democratic
• 1:14:14
  in all fucking branches
• 1:14:16
  in California.
• 1:14:17
  And that was the problem
• 1:14:18
  when Schorsinger was governor.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  And he ran into a brick wall
• 1:14:20
  every fucking time.
• 1:14:21
  Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  It does.
• 1:14:22
  It,
• 1:14:23
  unless you get that fixed,
• 1:14:25
  it doesn't matter
• 1:14:27
  who's sitting in that chair.
• 1:14:28
  You know,
• 1:14:28
  it really doesn't.
• 1:14:30
  But,
• 1:14:30
  but it is fun to watch,
• 1:14:32
  you know,
• 1:14:32
  nine Democrats
• 1:14:33
  now eight Democrats
• 1:14:34
  claim they're the best option
• 1:14:36
  for governor
• 1:14:37
  and they keep splitting the vote
• 1:14:38
  because they're all stupid.
• 1:14:39
  Right.
• 1:14:40
  And then before you know it,
• 1:14:41
  because it's the top two
• 1:14:42
  that get to go on
• 1:14:44
  to the election,
• 1:14:45
  the actual campaign,
• 1:14:46
  it's not like
• 1:14:47
  Republican, Democrat
• 1:14:48
  or anything like that.
• 1:14:50
  Then the top two right now
• 1:14:51
  are Republicans.
• 1:14:52
  Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Because they keep fucking
• 1:14:54
  slapping each other around.
• 1:14:55
  So I'm hoping
• 1:14:56
  that's how it ends.
• 1:14:58
  Just for shits and giggles.
• 1:15:00
  But I know the bigger issue
• 1:15:01
  is deeper.
• 1:15:02
  it's in the legislator.
• 1:15:04
  Absolutely.
• 1:15:05
  It's the reason
• 1:15:06
  we have all these pedophile laws
• 1:15:10
  that seem to keep getting passed
• 1:15:13
  because we have so many
• 1:15:14
  in that legislator
• 1:15:15
  that are democratic.
• 1:15:18
  And one of those guys...
• 1:15:19
  And Mr. Wiener
• 1:15:23
  is running for Pelosi's seat,
• 1:15:24
  so his dumb ass
• 1:15:25
  will be in Congress.
• 1:15:26
  You know what?
• 1:15:27
  Hold on.
• 1:15:28
  Before we move forward,
• 1:15:28
  how is Swalwell
• 1:15:29
  chastised and now out,
• 1:15:31
  but yet Weiner's still around.
• 1:15:37
  Because
• 1:15:37
  he's not exposed yet.
• 1:15:41
  He's still hiding in the back.
• 1:15:42
  Everybody fucking knows, man.
• 1:15:44
  Everybody knows he's the one
• 1:15:45
  authoring those bills, yes.
• 1:15:48
  This is how stupid California is.
• 1:15:51
  We now have a Nick Shirley bill.
• 1:15:56
  I couldn't believe that.
• 1:15:56
  Nick Shirley is an investigative...
• 1:15:58
  Nick Shirley says he's an investigative reporter.
• 1:16:01
  Right.
• 1:16:02
  He says he claims to have found something and he just presented it.
• 1:16:05
  Yes.
• 1:16:06
  Like any other journalist would.
• 1:16:07
  Yes.
• 1:16:08
  But for some reason, California wants to have a law now that criminalizes that activity.
• 1:16:15
  And they're calling it the Nick Shirley bill.
• 1:16:16
  It just made it through the legislator.
• 1:16:19
  It might get to Newsom's desk.
• 1:16:22
  What's the point, though?
• 1:16:24
  I'm not so understanding the argument.
• 1:16:25
  The argument is you can't be a journalist
• 1:16:27
  or you can't be an independent journalist.
• 1:16:29
  You can only be a journalist
• 1:16:30
  if you work for a big news organization.
• 1:16:32
  I don't understand.
• 1:16:33
  I haven't read the law 100%.
• 1:16:35
  I just know the basic principle of it
• 1:16:39
  is to criminalize that activity.
• 1:16:43
  So I'm probably...
• 1:16:44
  You're probably right.
• 1:16:45
  He's probably going to have to have credentials
• 1:16:48
  that are...
• 1:16:50
  Yeah, but who's going to give it to him?
• 1:16:52
  I don't know.
• 1:16:53
  I don't know how they're going to determine this.
• 1:16:54
  if he doesn't work for an organization
• 1:16:56
  how's he going to get it I mean he could join
• 1:16:58
  I forgot what it was there's a few
• 1:17:00
  nationally regulated journalism
• 1:17:02
  in California will die because
• 1:17:05
  of this bill it's going to be a waste of
• 1:17:06
  it's
• 1:17:07
  yeah I just
• 1:17:09
  that's how retarded we are out here
• 1:17:12
  well I think the only hope is
• 1:17:13
  if we do get a Republican governor in
• 1:17:16
  California that does signal
• 1:17:18
  a change right
• 1:17:20
  and what's
• 1:17:22
  going to happen is what we see on the national stage
• 1:17:24
  right here where everybody hates Trump.
• 1:17:28
  It's hate Trump no matter what.
• 1:17:29
  No matter what he does,
• 1:17:30
  whether it's good or not,
• 1:17:32
  fuck Trump, right?
• 1:17:33
  Oh, he lowered taxes.
• 1:17:35
  Fuck Trump.
• 1:17:35
  That's bad.
• 1:17:36
  All right.
• 1:17:37
  I guess.
• 1:17:38
  Oh, he's making more money for America.
• 1:17:42
  That's bad.
• 1:17:43
  Oh, fuck Trump.
• 1:17:43
  Okay.
• 1:17:44
  No matter what he does,
• 1:17:45
  it's just like I hate him.
• 1:17:46
  The dude could be fucking
• 1:17:47
  farting rainbows at his ass
• 1:17:49
  and there could be like
• 1:17:50
  a big pot of gold at the other end
• 1:17:52
  for everybody to fucking
• 1:17:53
  you know, become rich off of and still fuck Trump.
• 1:17:56
  Nobody wants to support Trump just for the sake of opposing Trump.
• 1:18:01
  Period.
• 1:18:02
  Doesn't matter.
• 1:18:02
  Doesn't matter.
• 1:18:03
  The problem I see with California is if we get a Republican governor,
• 1:18:07
  it's going to be the national stage.
• 1:18:10
  What we're seeing here with, you know, hating Trump,
• 1:18:13
  it'll now be hating whoever Republican governor is.
• 1:18:16
  We're going to see it at the state level.
• 1:18:18
  And it's going to be every day.
• 1:18:20
  There's going to be a news report about how bad that governor is.
• 1:18:22
  There's going to be a social media post about how bad that governor is.
• 1:18:25
  There's going to be people on the street protesting that governor just for the sake of him being in fucking office.
• 1:18:30
  And that's the issue.
• 1:18:32
  Like, you're correct.
• 1:18:33
  If we don't change the legislation, we're not going to change anything in California.
• 1:18:38
  But who knows?
• 1:18:39
  It could be turned on its head.
• 1:18:40
  I mean, we came very, very close to removing Gavin Newsom more than once.
• 1:18:44
  We came very, very close to flipping the legislation a few times.
• 1:18:48
  and their answer was
• 1:18:51
  because they saw the writing on the wall
• 1:18:53
  was redistricting in favor of the Democratic Party
• 1:18:56
  because I think they saw that it was starting to change.
• 1:19:00
  So I don't know, man.
• 1:19:00
  Maybe even if the Republican governor
• 1:19:05
  at this point may not have too much
• 1:19:07
  that they can do
• 1:19:08
  because of the supermajority they have in the legislature,
• 1:19:12
  maybe it will signal that,
• 1:19:14
  well, things could turn around.
• 1:19:15
  and it might spark other people to step up and fight right from within.
• 1:19:20
  Maybe.
• 1:19:21
  I don't know.
• 1:19:21
  The only thing he can do is bitch and complain from the microphone,
• 1:19:25
  but will that sway the public?
• 1:19:30
  I don't even know because we don't have the numbers
• 1:19:33
  when you go Republican to Democrat.
• 1:19:35
  I think it could if his bitching and complaining
• 1:19:38
  comes with facts and data from within his department, right?
• 1:19:42
  It also depends on who the bitching and the complaint.
• 1:19:44
  I mean, we got, what is it, Hilton?
• 1:19:45
  I mean
• 1:19:46
  I mean he
• 1:19:49
  he got on
• 1:19:50
  he keeps going on
• 1:19:51
  on shows
• 1:19:52
  and talking about
• 1:19:52
  how he's going to lower gas prices
• 1:19:54
  it's like okay
• 1:19:54
  yeah but what if
• 1:19:55
  what if it happens to be Bovino
• 1:19:57
  well
• 1:19:58
  what does he want to do
• 1:20:00
  he wants to
• 1:20:01
  he wants to investigate
• 1:20:02
  every impropriety
• 1:20:04
  in the financial side
• 1:20:05
  of the government
• 1:20:06
  of the governor's office
• 1:20:07
  well that's
• 1:20:08
  that's just it though
• 1:20:09
  like what if that
• 1:20:10
  bitching complaint
• 1:20:10
  you're talking about
• 1:20:11
  is from that level
• 1:20:13
  and he's exposing
• 1:20:15
  all the fraud from within.
• 1:20:16
  That means a lot of people
• 1:20:17
  are going to be in the chopping block.
• 1:20:18
  That could be the inroads
• 1:20:20
  to changing the legislation.
• 1:20:22
  But a judge already blocked him
• 1:20:23
  from the election thing
• 1:20:24
  because he was trying to get a hold
• 1:20:26
  of election records
• 1:20:27
  from the standpoint of a police officer
• 1:20:30
  so he can look into
• 1:20:31
  what was going on in California
• 1:20:33
  during the last election cycle.
• 1:20:37
  And the judge said no.
• 1:20:39
  The judge blocked him from it.
• 1:20:40
  So he's just going to be...
• 1:20:42
  This is him as a governor
• 1:20:44
  fighting with the judge all the time.
• 1:20:46
  It might end up being that.
• 1:20:47
  Is that the right way to sway
• 1:20:50
  the very small numbers we have?
• 1:20:53
  I mean, we should have gotten
• 1:20:55
  six million out there for redistricting.
• 1:20:56
  We didn't even get that.
• 1:20:59
  I voted no.
• 1:21:00
  Nobody else.
• 1:21:00
  Who else?
• 1:21:01
  What happened?
• 1:21:02
  You know, it's like,
• 1:21:03
  I mean, Republicans gave that away.
• 1:21:06
  We have so many opportunities
• 1:21:09
  to turn this state red.
• 1:21:11
  even incrementally.
• 1:21:15
  And we just can't get them out of their fucking chairs.
• 1:21:20
  I don't get it.
• 1:21:21
  I think it's because the perception is
• 1:21:22
  your vote in California doesn't matter
• 1:21:24
  because every time we've seen something come close,
• 1:21:26
  it's like on the 11th hour,
• 1:21:29
  200,000 votes just came in and ah, fuck, you lost, right?
• 1:21:33
  We saw that happen with the recall of Gavin Newsom.
• 1:21:35
  Everything was going in favor of his fucking removal.
• 1:21:39
  and then like at two in the morning
• 1:21:41
  all of a sudden there was like these hundreds of thousands
• 1:21:43
  of votes that came in when all
• 1:21:45
  the pull like everything forever was like
• 1:21:47
  yeah this guy was toast
• 1:21:49
  that that wasn't suspect at all
• 1:21:51
  no that wasn't suspicious whatsoever
• 1:21:53
  but they
• 1:21:55
  maybe it's just
• 1:21:58
  they're all just probably yeah you're right
• 1:22:00
  they're probably all delusioned
• 1:22:01
  what's that word
• 1:22:02
  disillusioned disenfranchised
• 1:22:05
  yeah maybe that's it
• 1:22:07
  I think so.
• 1:22:09
  It's going to take a lot of convincing from, let's just say Hilton, or maybe Hilton wins, right?
• 1:22:16
  Maybe that happens.
• 1:22:19
  He's going to have to do a lot of convincing.
• 1:22:22
  Features are going to have to be amazing.
• 1:22:26
  And he's going to just even sway some independence.
• 1:22:30
  That's the only hope we have for California, because there's also a wealth tax coming, kids.
• 1:22:35
  for some fucking reason.
• 1:22:37
  We need that in California.
• 1:22:39
  You know, it's like,
• 1:22:40
  I want to know how,
• 1:22:41
  he's talking about gas prices,
• 1:22:43
  this Steve Hilton guy,
• 1:22:44
  and it's like,
• 1:22:44
  how are you going to get that $1.67 tax
• 1:22:47
  off of the gas?
• 1:22:48
  Just cut the fucking departments out.
• 1:22:51
  You know, take away all those stupid,
• 1:22:54
  hyperinflated, bullshit,
• 1:22:56
  environmental fucking taxes
• 1:22:57
  that no other state really has,
• 1:23:01
  but you got just California cares, apparently?
• 1:23:03
  Our environment doesn't look much better
• 1:23:04
  than most any other state,
• 1:23:06
  but really,
• 1:23:06
  if you're looking at...
• 1:23:07
  No, not really at all.
• 1:23:08
  But then there's also,
• 1:23:09
  there's a couple of taxes
• 1:23:11
  I know we can get rid of,
• 1:23:12
  like the 911 tax,
• 1:23:14
  the 988 tax,
• 1:23:16
  the DMV tax.
• 1:23:20
  Supposed to,
• 1:23:21
  you know,
• 1:23:22
  fix problems
• 1:23:23
  and the money
• 1:23:24
  just keeps disappearing.
• 1:23:26
  So,
• 1:23:28
  we literally should only be paying
• 1:23:30
  $3.99 a gallon out here
• 1:23:31
  all the time.
• 1:23:33
  But we don't.
• 1:23:33
  We had all those taxes.
• 1:23:34
  because it's always just under $5.
• 1:23:36
  And it's infuriating,
• 1:23:38
  because then you get dickheads like Roy,
• 1:23:40
  go to the Ro Khanna,
• 1:23:42
  then in front of a gas station going,
• 1:23:44
  we don't need to be paying $6.
• 1:23:45
  Like, well, why are we paying $6?
• 1:23:47
  What's this $1.60 for?
• 1:23:48
  We shouldn't even be paying three something.
• 1:23:50
  We should be at like, you know,
• 1:23:52
  the two and a halves, you know?
• 1:23:54
  Yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Well, I mean, I'm just trying to stay within the average,
• 1:23:57
  the national average,
• 1:23:57
  which is like $4.
• 1:23:59
  We should be at least at that level.
• 1:24:02
  And we're not.
• 1:24:02
  We're always five, six bucks.
• 1:24:04
  You go to the mountains, it's like $7.50 a gallon right now.
• 1:24:07
  Right.
• 1:24:08
  And it's like-
• 1:24:09
  And there's no reason for that.
• 1:24:10
  Why?
• 1:24:11
  Just because it's further out?
• 1:24:13
  Because maybe, maybe they're charging more to truck it out there.
• 1:24:17
  Yeah.
• 1:24:18
  Probably.
• 1:24:19
  I mean, we should never have closed our refineries.
• 1:24:21
  We should never have EPA the shit out of that to the point where they driving gas in now out of Texas There so much I knew we were going to go
• 1:24:31
  here and I would never shut up.
• 1:24:33
  It's like,
• 1:24:34
  fuck, man. How retarded
• 1:24:37
  can we possibly be?
• 1:24:42
  Gavin Newsom's a fucking
• 1:24:43
  he's another
• 1:24:45
  pile of shit.
• 1:24:48
  It's like, he goes around
• 1:24:49
  he's doing a campaign. He can't paint
• 1:24:51
  like two years early.
• 1:24:52
  He's just going
• 1:24:53
  doing tours now.
• 1:24:54
  He's not even in the state.
• 1:24:55
  I know.
• 1:24:56
  He's fucking...
• 1:24:57
  What the fuck
• 1:24:58
  are you doing in China
• 1:24:59
  driving an EV for?
• 1:25:00
  What are you doing?
• 1:25:01
  I don't get it, man.
• 1:25:02
  You just had a fire down here.
• 1:25:04
  What the fuck?
• 1:25:04
  I mean,
• 1:25:05
  what the fuck
• 1:25:05
  is a governor doing?
• 1:25:07
  You know,
• 1:25:08
  going to foreign nations
• 1:25:10
  to plead his case
• 1:25:12
  and negotiate
• 1:25:13
  on behalf of America?
• 1:25:14
  Like,
• 1:25:14
  shut the fuck up.
• 1:25:15
  Get back to California
• 1:25:16
  and run your state, bro.
• 1:25:17
  You're not a fucking
• 1:25:18
  national representative
• 1:25:19
  of the United States,
• 1:25:20
  motherfucker.
• 1:25:21
  I mean, I know every once in a while,
• 1:25:24
  every once in a while,
• 1:25:25
  the governor does do those kinds of trips.
• 1:25:27
  I get it.
• 1:25:27
  But this dude is like campaigning.
• 1:25:30
  Like he's, he's like a rock,
• 1:25:32
  a rock band touring the country on an album deal.
• 1:25:35
  It's like, it's like, dude, like he's sitting,
• 1:25:40
  he's so retarded.
• 1:25:41
  He is literally sitting and talking about how great California is and how all
• 1:25:49
  blue states subsidize this, that, whatever.
• 1:25:51
  and then he goes into crime rates about red states.
• 1:25:53
  But then if you look at what he's saying,
• 1:25:56
  he bags on Louisiana.
• 1:26:01
  And it's like, okay, for one,
• 1:26:03
  what does that got to do with what we're doing over here?
• 1:26:05
  I mean, yeah, okay, their crime rate's high.
• 1:26:07
  Who gives a shit?
• 1:26:08
  Why don't you work on everybody getting shot in San Francisco?
• 1:26:11
  Or Oakland.
• 1:26:12
  Or Oakland.
• 1:26:13
  Or San Diego.
• 1:26:14
  Or Los Angeles.
• 1:26:15
  Go figure out how to fix that bridge
• 1:26:17
  full of plastic houses in LA.
• 1:26:21
  please don't worry about what Louisiana's doing.
• 1:26:25
  But for the sake of argument, sure.
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, but where'd that $24 billion go?
• 1:26:29
  I don't know.
• 1:26:29
  Yeah, let's go Louisiana.
• 1:26:32
  Yeah.
• 1:26:33
  Okay.
• 1:26:33
  Most of the crime rate comes out of New Orleans
• 1:26:36
  and Baton Rouge.
• 1:26:39
  Blue cities?
• 1:26:40
  New Orleans.
• 1:26:42
  Isn't Baton Rouge Louisiana?
• 1:26:44
  Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Or my fucking...
• 1:26:45
  Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  It is Baton Rouge, right?
• 1:26:48
  Yeah, okay.
• 1:26:50
  Anyway,
• 1:26:50
  New Orleans has, in New Orleans, its entire existence, entire existence, the mayor, the lieutenant, and all that, all the governor body has never been Republican.
• 1:27:04
  Ever.
• 1:27:05
  Yep.
• 1:27:05
  Fucking ever.
• 1:27:07
  A hundred plus years of crime, bad management.
• 1:27:12
  It's all there.
• 1:27:13
  And it all drags down the stats.
• 1:27:16
  I think Baton Rouge is the same
• 1:27:19
  situation, but they've had a Republican
• 1:27:21
  every once in a while.
• 1:27:23
  Why are you trying to
• 1:27:25
  say that
• 1:27:26
  Louisiana is a Republican
• 1:27:29
  hellscape when you know damn well
• 1:27:30
  the two larger cities
• 1:27:33
  has been 100%
• 1:27:35
  controlled by the Democratic Party
• 1:27:37
  since its inception, basically?
• 1:27:39
  Right.
• 1:27:41
  You're like fucking bullshitting
• 1:27:43
  with statistics here.
• 1:27:44
  like let's
• 1:27:45
  let's
• 1:27:45
  no one's gonna ask him that
• 1:27:47
  yeah the cherry picking the data
• 1:27:48
  that's the only way
• 1:27:49
  they can make the argument
• 1:27:50
  is
• 1:27:51
  is anybody ever gonna go
• 1:27:52
  well
• 1:27:52
  this is why I was hoping
• 1:27:54
  Ben Shapiro would
• 1:27:55
  you know
• 1:27:55
  grow a pair
• 1:27:56
  and fucking have an actual
• 1:27:57
  conversation
• 1:27:57
  he goes up there
• 1:27:58
  and he
• 1:27:58
  fucking wets the bed
• 1:28:00
  I hate that
• 1:28:01
  I hated that
• 1:28:02
  but I was just like
• 1:28:03
  somebody just say it
• 1:28:06
  like
• 1:28:06
  what happened
• 1:28:07
  what about New Orleans
• 1:28:08
  right
• 1:28:09
  come on
• 1:28:10
  Gavin
• 1:28:11
  what about it
• 1:28:12
  well they don't
• 1:28:14
  they don't want to get down to the root cause.
• 1:28:16
  Like, what's crazy is,
• 1:28:18
  look, let's be honest.
• 1:28:19
  Conservatives aren't perfect.
• 1:28:21
  Red states and cities aren't perfect.
• 1:28:23
  But when you start breaking down the data,
• 1:28:25
  when you're talking about, for example, the crime,
• 1:28:27
  in many cases, these red states with the high crime
• 1:28:30
  are a result of the blue cities
• 1:28:32
  within those red states
• 1:28:33
  that are contributing to the high crime.
• 1:28:35
  Like, they don't want to talk about that.
• 1:28:37
  They just gloss over it, you know?
• 1:28:39
  It's the same thing here.
• 1:28:41
  California, where are all the high crime cities?
• 1:28:43
  for the most part
• 1:28:44
  they're all blue cities
• 1:28:45
  Oakland blue city
• 1:28:46
  San Francisco blue city
• 1:28:48
  hmm
• 1:28:49
  right
• 1:28:50
  I hate to say it
• 1:28:51
  but it's true
• 1:28:52
  LA blue
• 1:28:53
  hmm
• 1:28:53
  okay
• 1:28:54
  yeah
• 1:28:54
  but I think most all
• 1:28:55
  of Southern California
• 1:28:56
  except for
• 1:28:57
  well Orange County
• 1:28:57
  was red for a bit
• 1:28:58
  I don't know where
• 1:28:58
  they're at now
• 1:28:59
  I think San Diego's red
• 1:29:00
  yeah but most of
• 1:29:02
  Southern California
• 1:29:03
  is blue
• 1:29:04
  it's like
• 1:29:06
  is it still
• 1:29:07
  is it a coincidence
• 1:29:08
  it's like
• 1:29:09
  come on
• 1:29:09
  there's a correlation here
• 1:29:10
  there really is
• 1:29:13
  I don't know, man.
• 1:29:14
  We're not going to save the world.
• 1:29:16
  We can't even save ourselves here in the US.
• 1:29:20
  Look, we'll start wrapping this up
• 1:29:22
  because we had a good conversation
• 1:29:24
  about a lot of things.
• 1:29:26
  You set the record straight on Iran.
• 1:29:28
  It was good to hear what you had to say
• 1:29:29
  from your perspective as a father
• 1:29:30
  with a child who is serving,
• 1:29:33
  a son serving out there
• 1:29:34
  in the Strait of Hormuz.
• 1:29:36
  And what I liked about what we all talked about
• 1:29:38
  is we just like, I don't know,
• 1:29:40
  we just cut through the noise, man,
• 1:29:41
  and just tore down the veil of bullshit
• 1:29:43
  and kind of turned the tables on these podfluencers,
• 1:29:47
  these big podcasters,
• 1:29:48
  and just said,
• 1:29:48
  yeah, no, no, no.
• 1:29:49
  You guys are full of shit.
• 1:29:51
  Whether or not there's enough people
• 1:29:52
  who are going to listen to this conversation
• 1:29:53
  to go, oh, yeah, you know what?
• 1:29:55
  Maybe we should start looking at this
• 1:29:56
  a little deeper from a different lens.
• 1:29:58
  Maybe we should go past the headline,
• 1:29:59
  really find out what the fuck's going on
• 1:30:00
  and not take everything for face value.
• 1:30:02
  I hope they do.
• 1:30:03
  But regardless, let's just do this.
• 1:30:07
  This is your opportunity to do what you don't do.
• 1:30:10
  Tell everybody where they can find you, man.
• 1:30:17
  How long have we been on?
• 1:30:19
  I don't even know, man.
• 1:30:21
  I have zero idea.
• 1:30:22
  Probably close to two hours or so.
• 1:30:24
  I know definitely over an hour.
• 1:30:28
  Well, now I'm disappointed.
• 1:30:30
  I really wanted to beat that other weirdo that went for almost four hours.
• 1:30:33
  That's cool.
• 1:30:34
  I got it.
• 1:30:34
  Well, it's not about the length of time.
• 1:30:37
  It's about the quality of the conversation, right?
• 1:30:39
  I wanted to win.
• 1:30:40
  I did.
• 1:30:42
  Fuck.
• 1:30:44
  Well, how do you find me?
• 1:30:46
  How do you find...
• 1:30:46
  I have a sub stack.
• 1:30:49
  Just search Stretch Goose.
• 1:30:51
  You'll get the sub stack.
• 1:30:53
  You'll get the X account.
• 1:30:55
  What's the handle?
• 1:30:56
  At Stretch Goose?
• 1:30:57
  It's at Stretch Goose.
• 1:30:59
  There you go.
• 1:31:00
  And I believe the sub stack is the same.
• 1:31:04
  So sub stack X, right?
• 1:31:07
  Is there any other social medias
• 1:31:07
  or just a sub stack and the X?
• 1:31:09
  that's all I could handle
• 1:31:11
  dude like I'm
• 1:31:11
  oh I get it
• 1:31:12
  I'm a fucking tarred
• 1:31:13
  with social media
• 1:31:14
  always have been
• 1:31:15
  I have it but I'm horrible at it
• 1:31:16
  I really am
• 1:31:17
  I mean if I had like
• 1:31:17
  the other shit
• 1:31:18
  it'd be too many
• 1:31:19
  I just
• 1:31:21
  but anyway
• 1:31:21
  you know
• 1:31:22
  and then it's the
• 1:31:23
  Manufon show
• 1:31:24
  it's on the Apples
• 1:31:25
  the Spotify's
• 1:31:27
  it's on all podcast aggregators
• 1:31:29
  yeah
• 1:31:29
  I mean
• 1:31:30
  I'm not that hard to
• 1:31:32
  any plans to go back
• 1:31:32
  to video or no
• 1:31:33
  what
• 1:31:34
  you have any plans
• 1:31:35
  to go back to doing
• 1:31:36
  any video episodes
• 1:31:37
  I mean there's no push
• 1:31:40
  I just wondered
• 1:31:41
  if you had any thoughts
• 1:31:43
  I'm gonna have to say
• 1:31:46
  being a daily is probably hard right
• 1:31:47
  to do all that
• 1:31:47
  yeah
• 1:31:47
  you don't have to record
• 1:31:48
  and cut
• 1:31:49
  yeah
• 1:31:50
  nah
• 1:31:51
  audio is fine
• 1:31:52
  it's still number one in the medium
• 1:31:53
  you know
• 1:31:55
  it is
• 1:31:55
  I mean I'm sure video will suck it up eventually
• 1:31:58
  but
• 1:31:59
  unless I find a way to do it
• 1:32:01
  to where it's efficient
• 1:32:03
  to where I can just
• 1:32:04
  bang bang bang
• 1:32:05
  like I've been doing
• 1:32:05
  mmhmm
• 1:32:07
  which I don't think I'll be able to,
• 1:32:08
  because then there's always going to be something
• 1:32:09
  where I'm going to have to edit, cut, whatever.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah.
• 1:32:12
  Yeah.
• 1:32:14
  I don't think I have that kind of a time for.
• 1:32:19
  Well, anyway, everybody,
• 1:32:21
  support my brother here,
• 1:32:24
  Manual Fonts, The Manual Fonts Show,
• 1:32:25
  on all your podcast aggregators,
• 1:32:27
  Spotify, Apple, Podcast Addict,
• 1:32:30
  Overcast, Pocket Cast, CastBox,
• 1:32:33
  whatever it is you use,
• 1:32:34
  he's there.
• 1:32:35
  He's on good pods too.
• 1:32:38
  So you're ranked in news commentary there
• 1:32:41
  at what number right now?
• 1:32:42
  What are you at?
• 1:32:43
  Number 15?
• 1:32:45
  Yeah, apparently they said I was 15.
• 1:32:47
  There you go.
• 1:32:48
  And also social media.
• 1:32:49
  So look for the handle.
• 1:32:51
  Just type it in at Stretch Goose.
• 1:32:53
  He's going to be on Substack on X.
• 1:32:54
  You want to communicate with him.
• 1:32:55
  Give him a ring.
• 1:32:56
  Send him a message.
• 1:32:58
  Give him some shit, whatever.
• 1:32:59
  He'll get back to you.
• 1:33:01
  But anyway, I just encourage everybody to listen to you.
• 1:33:03
  It's a good show.
• 1:33:04
  I like how you went daily.
• 1:33:05
  It's really cool.
• 1:33:07
  And I mean, kudos to you for keeping up with that
• 1:33:09
  because I can't do it daily.
• 1:33:10
  There's no fucking way.
• 1:33:11
  I don't even know how you do it.
• 1:33:12
  But I encourage everybody to listen.
• 1:33:14
  So I'll have the links, obviously, in the notes.
• 1:33:17
  And we'll definitely send people your way.
• 1:33:22
  Anything else you want to say before we end this here?
• 1:33:28
  The big thank yous and all that.
• 1:33:30
  And I think I did better than the first time
• 1:33:32
  because I believe I was number five or six on the episode run.
• 1:33:40
  And here you are, a hundred and something later,
• 1:33:42
  and then I finally get another run on it.
• 1:33:44
  I think I did better this time.
• 1:33:46
  Appreciate all that.
• 1:33:48
  And I really...
• 1:33:49
  I said it a million times, dude.
• 1:33:52
  I'm really impressed and proud of your success.
• 1:33:58
  This guy?
• 1:33:58
  You know,
• 1:33:59
  like I tried to give you a championship belt a few times.
• 1:34:04
  You always slap it away.
• 1:34:05
  Cause I'm the host.
• 1:34:06
  Stop it.
• 1:34:07
  No,
• 1:34:08
  well,
• 1:34:09
  no,
• 1:34:10
  look,
• 1:34:10
  um,
• 1:34:10
  appreciate it.
• 1:34:11
  But you know,
• 1:34:12
  I,
• 1:34:12
  I,
• 1:34:13
  I,
• 1:34:13
  I value what you do.
• 1:34:14
  You've been doing a long time and I think more people need to listen to
• 1:34:17
  you and,
• 1:34:18
  uh,
• 1:34:19
  you know,
• 1:34:20
  you do a good job.
• 1:34:20
  I mean,
• 1:34:21
  like I said,
• 1:34:21
  you do what's really hard.
• 1:34:22
  You're doing the daily,
• 1:34:23
  like not everybody can grind like that.
• 1:34:24
  So,
• 1:34:25
  you know,
• 1:34:25
  you're dedicated and you're putting in the work.
• 1:34:27
  So again,
• 1:34:28
  Listen to my fucking show
• 1:34:29
  Listen to my brother
• 1:34:30
  That's all I'm gonna say
• 1:34:31
  Alright
• 1:34:31
  We're good
• 1:34:32
  Damn
• 1:34:32
  That's it
• 1:34:33
  Later
• 1:34:33
  Listen to the manual fucking font show
• 1:34:35
  Fucking later kids
• 1:34:37
  Have a great day
• 1:34:39
  Jeez
• 1:34:41
  Devils hide behind redemption
• 1:34:45
  Honesty is a one way gate to hell
• 1:34:58
  Bye.