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NFL Gambling Recap | Week 11 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: week eleven Sunday NFL recap episode coming on a few
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Speaker 1: minutes later. As we sweat at the end of the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams game. I am Chad Milman. I am joined
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Speaker 1: by by BFF, my companion Michael Padre, and my co
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Speaker 1: host Professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, so I man, all
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Speaker 1: I can say is thank god we can drop our
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Speaker 1: two worst weeks after Thanksgiving because we are living in
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Speaker 1: the danger zone tonight, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I can't and complain just I mean, we're
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Speaker 2: gonna go through all of it. But the fact that
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Speaker 2: that Bears game, we all knew what was coming, and
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Speaker 2: I mean you've moved because you're a Bears fan, don't
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Speaker 2: even Oh my, I can't even be that mad that
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Speaker 2: we're one and three because we should be zero and four.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's we.
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Speaker 1: Are we are eight. Well, we'll get to it. We'll
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was gonna say, it's it sucks. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's bad weeks coming and you try to fight them off.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's we've had back to back weeks now
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Speaker 2: we keep leaving winners off and taking the wrong lines,
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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, got gotta be better, got to learn
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Speaker 2: from it. But that's how it is. Every every week
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Speaker 1: All right, So, as Simon alluded to, I will recap
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Speaker 1: everything that happened, because it's been a scary day. We
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Speaker 1: have Chicago plus seven and a half. Seemed like with
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Speaker 1: four minutes thirty seconds, no matter what happened, we were
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Speaker 1: going to cover seven and a half. Didn't necessarily play
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Speaker 1: out that way. We had Miami minus thirteen and a half,
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Speaker 1: probably one of the most frustrating games we've had in
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Speaker 1: a long time, because if you look at the details
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Speaker 1: of that game, Miami should have won by seventy five.
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Speaker 1: We had Pittsburgh plus two and a half, another one,
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Speaker 1: super frustrating to lose that game by three when you
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Speaker 1: had the ball with less than two minutes left and
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Speaker 1: a chance to go down the field and kick a
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Speaker 1: game when you field goal. Carolina plus ten and a
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Speaker 1: half never really in it. So we still have Denver
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Speaker 1: minus two and a half. I shouldn't say we were
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Speaker 1: never in it, but I'll get to that. We had
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Speaker 1: Denver minus two and a half tonight to go two
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Speaker 1: and three. So we're one and three right now. The
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Speaker 1: only game. And it's interesting, you say, you know, we
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Speaker 1: got to learn our lesson. I think the only game
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Speaker 1: we claim close to consideration was Arizona. But in my
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Speaker 1: notes and in our conversation from this morning, the only
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Speaker 1: game we would have taken out for it was the Bears,
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Speaker 1: which was our only win. So was there another game
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Speaker 1: that you that you're thinking we should have put in
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Speaker 1: or taken out?
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Speaker 2: The only one was Pittsburgh, just because we both played
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Speaker 2: it at four and I was like, yeah, trying not then.
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Speaker 2: I was trying to act like that it was gonna
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Speaker 2: be a big deal and they were gonna win that game.
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Speaker 2: But now it, like you said, though, felt good for
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Speaker 2: a second there, like we got the ball back, You're like,
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Speaker 2: all right, Kenny, just get a couple of yards here.
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Speaker 2: You said it. He went three and out and Brown's
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Speaker 2: got the ball. The rookie led them down the field.
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Speaker 2: He did what we were hoping was gonna happen with Kenny.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that's the way it goes, Like Carolina bad, Bet,
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Speaker 2: you know, that's that's life. Bet.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go the game by game here, let's
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Speaker 1: let's dig in game by game. Let's at least start
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Speaker 1: with the Bears, who, for fifty five minutes and thirty
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Speaker 1: seconds probably played the best game of the Justin Fields era.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at the box score, what that
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Speaker 1: really looks like is Justin Fields went sixteen of twenty
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Speaker 1: three for one hundred and sixty nine yards and ran
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Speaker 1: for one hundred yards. And this defense played well except
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Speaker 1: for the last ten minutes total of each half, where
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Speaker 1: they just let the Lions drive down the field. The
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Speaker 1: Bears were up twenty six to fourteen with four minutes
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds left, ended up losing thirty one twenty six
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Speaker 1: seventeen points in the last four minutes and thirty seconds.
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Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the last twenty nine
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Speaker 1: seconds or do you want me to talk about the
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Speaker 1: last twenty nine seconds?
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Speaker 2: You can I was just gonna say, you can't, even
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Speaker 2: if I want to fault the defense at the end there,
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Speaker 2: you can't really right, It's you played a full game.
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the Lions turned into a track
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Speaker 2: meet in the final five minutes. They were gassed like that.
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Speaker 2: Browns fans should be happy, though, Like again, me and
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Speaker 2: you were upset because we had them in our money
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Speaker 2: line around Robin I had a lot of bets tied
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Speaker 2: to the Bear's money line. But Bears fan should be
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Speaker 2: happy in the sense that Justin Fields in that game
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Speaker 2: had hurt his hand was like bleeding from his hand. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the dude came and make a game chat game without
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Speaker 2: getting injury. So that's nice. You already know who cares
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Speaker 2: how well he plays. You got to move on after
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Speaker 2: this season. And the thing that really pissed me off
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Speaker 2: he did that game was it was third and nine
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Speaker 2: or thirty eight at the end of the game. All
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Speaker 2: you needed was a first down, the game was over,
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Speaker 2: and he threw a bomb. Yeah, and it's like, who
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Speaker 2: do you think you are justin to take that kind
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Speaker 2: of shot, Like at least get seven yards or six
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Speaker 2: yards and make it fourth and two or fourth and
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Speaker 2: one and make make the coach make a decision. Don't
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Speaker 2: take a stupid bomb that's like less than a fifty
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Speaker 2: percent chance even connecting that. That really bummed me out,
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Speaker 2: especially because, like we just said, like I can't believe
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Speaker 2: we didn't win that money line bet. It was just there.
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Speaker 2: They had all the turnovers. You said, the defense played well,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, talk about the funnel twenty seconds, which is
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Speaker 2: just madness.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're also right about that. Or even in
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Speaker 1: that last play, you know they had a chance to
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Speaker 1: close it out, they throw that bomb, even if they
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Speaker 1: they had gained four yards, You're then going to either
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Speaker 1: run it down to the two minute warning or force
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Speaker 1: the Lions to use a timeout and then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, they don't have any other timeouts on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the two minute warning. Like, it's just
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Speaker 1: bad play calling, bad decision making, bad clock management, all
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Speaker 1: of it things that good teams don't make, the mistakes
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Speaker 1: doing with the Rams just did right, Like they methodically
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Speaker 1: moved the ball, they made good choices, they tried to
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Speaker 1: leave as little time as possible. They got lucky used
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Speaker 1: the field goal, but it wasn't because the Rams made
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Speaker 1: bad choices along the way.
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Speaker 2: But like I'm saying, though, they put themselves in that
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Speaker 2: position to win, and that's what the Bears just simply
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Speaker 2: cannot do.
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Speaker 1: They didn't do it. So last twenty nine seconds, the
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Speaker 1: Bears have the ball. They had called all their timeouts
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Speaker 1: to preserve time before the Lions scored a touchdown. They
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Speaker 1: have the ball deep in their end zone. I wrote
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Speaker 1: in my notes. I texted my buddies, this is when
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Speaker 1: we can bet that the Bears will not cover this
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Speaker 1: game because there will be some kind of cattish fropic
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields holds the ball for too long play.
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Speaker 2: It was horrible.
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Speaker 1: Sure enough, Bears are down twenty nine to twenty six.
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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson rushes the passer stripsack. He's going to catch
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Speaker 1: the ball. He's going to fund land on the ball
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Speaker 1: in the end zone. If not for a Bears lineman
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Speaker 1: inadvertently kicking it out of the back of the end zone. True,
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Speaker 1: here heres lose, True hero. The Bears lose thirty one
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Speaker 1: to twenty six by accident.
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Speaker 2: No, just an awful, awful experience. But god did we
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Speaker 2: need that one? I meanez if we were sitting here
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Speaker 2: own four woo so man, Thank god again we got
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Speaker 2: unlucky the other games. But that that spy right there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't tell you any times I've lost
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Speaker 2: taken ugly dogs on a number in the final two
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Speaker 2: minutes of a game like that, where it's like they're
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Speaker 2: all double digits, like you said, four minutes to go,
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Speaker 2: and now we might not cover a seven and a half.
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Speaker 2: That was crazy, crazy, crazy sweat. But again, we love gambling.
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Speaker 2: That was that was true fun roller coaster ride.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was just excruciating, almost as excruciating as Miami,
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Speaker 1: which is the game we'll talk about last. But one
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Speaker 1: more thing I want to say is Evan has this
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Speaker 1: great stat when Bears opponents, no no teams that led
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Speaker 1: by ten or more at any point an end to
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Speaker 1: game with a plus three or better turnover margin three
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Speaker 1: hundred sixty three and eight straight up the last decade. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bears are in are in a member of that very
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Speaker 1: small minority right now. Jeez, that's incredible.
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Speaker 2: That's fireable. That's fireable. As a head coach.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, the whole staff is done after this year,
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Speaker 1: right like it's a it's a truly terrible performance.
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Speaker 2: I guess you gotta let it. Like you just say, y'all,
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Speaker 2: let him keep going because he's incredible at tanking. And
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Speaker 2: if you get the quarterback Marvin Harris Junior out of
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Speaker 2: this whole existence, you nailed it.
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Speaker 1: I have a new rule that I think should be
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Speaker 1: implemented in the NFL, and I thought of it all
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Speaker 1: watching the Bears. Let the lines drive down the field
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Speaker 1: at the end of the first half to kick a
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Speaker 1: field goal. Yeah, the intentional field goal. If the other
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Speaker 1: team has the ball and you know you're going to
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Speaker 1: play a soft zone defense and just let them gain
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Speaker 1: yardage and stay in front of you and get in
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Speaker 1: a field goal range for whatever reason, you can offer
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Speaker 1: the automatic field goal from wherever the team wants to
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Speaker 1: take it, and then you get the ball back with
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Speaker 1: a little bit of time left because you're clearly not
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Speaker 1: caring about giving up the points, So just give them
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Speaker 1: the field goal and try to get the ball back
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Speaker 1: before half is over so you can score, and then
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Speaker 1: the team can decide, Okay, we don't want the field goal.
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Speaker 1: We want to keep playing, and then it's your opportunity
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Speaker 1: to stop them. But the Bears, the way they play,
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Speaker 1: should just offer the intentional field goal. It's like an
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Speaker 1: intentional walk.
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Speaker 2: Goddamn millennials trying to change my sport. Keep it to yourself, Chad, if.
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Speaker 1: Wishing made it so that I was a millennial, all right.
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Speaker 1: So the other the other game, Pittsburgh at Cleveland, Like
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Speaker 1: you said, this was our executive decision, right, and it
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Speaker 1: was tough one. We had. We had Pittsburgh plus four
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Speaker 1: and a half and.
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Speaker 2: We had a lot of this is this is probably
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Speaker 2: my biggest game. I wish I could say Arizona was,
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Speaker 2: but I was all in on Pittsburgh. I couldn't couldn't
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Speaker 2: stop bend it. I was just Tomlin versus the rookies
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Speaker 2: kept popping in my head and uh yeah, bad, bad Read.
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Speaker 2: Should have should have trusted the number classic get the
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Speaker 2: best of the number spot. I mean literally landed on
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Speaker 2: three in between the two and a half and the four. Brutal, brutal,
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean one of the games. Like I
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Speaker 2: watched the whole thing, basically every snap of a thirteen
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Speaker 2: to ten final game. It's true love right there, love
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Speaker 2: of the sport. But no, it's it sucks because it's
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Speaker 2: like it's right there, there's so many little coin flip
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Speaker 2: moments in that game where it's like we easily could
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Speaker 2: have covered We've be sitting here two and two with
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Speaker 2: a shot of three and two, and yeah, it didn't
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Speaker 2: go our way. Canny Pickett now all on him, right,
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Speaker 2: He wasn't totally totally at fault, but at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, it is on him. It's like, you
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Speaker 2: have to make these third down throws. Brother, you can't
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Speaker 2: run the ball up and down the field. You have
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Speaker 2: to make these throws. And I know how good Cleveland's
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Speaker 2: defense is, and I know you're getting beat up, but
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Speaker 2: he couldn't complete a third down throw for us Chad.
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Speaker 2: So it sucks bending on back quarterbacks. But this is it.
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Speaker 2: You live and die with.
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Speaker 1: It, brother. Kenny Pickens Canny Pikett's yards per completion three
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Speaker 1: point eight.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren had one hundred and forty five. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: Steelers two hundred and forty nine yards on offense and said,
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Speaker 1: is true? Right, Like, look, this game was playing exactly
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Speaker 1: as we thought it would play. I actually did not
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Speaker 1: take you know, I'm taking notes all day for these
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Speaker 1: games that we that were going to talk about. I
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Speaker 1: didn't take a single note for this game in the
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Speaker 1: first half. And then when the first half ended, all
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Speaker 1: I wrote down was the second half is all that
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Speaker 1: matters with the Steelers?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no joke.
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Speaker 1: First play, the second, second play the second half, Jalen
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Speaker 1: Warren seventy five yard touchdown and then and then an interception,
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Speaker 1: and then the Steelers kept getting the ball back with
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Speaker 1: opportunities to score and it's just this week, you know.
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Speaker 1: Evan wrote in the notes here the magic ended. The
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Speaker 1: Steelers were eleven and one in their last twelve one
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Speaker 1: score games. We knew it, I said. It unconvinced me today,
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Speaker 1: like we're kind of playing like Russian roulette on this
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Speaker 1: game with the Steelers because we keep taking them in
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Speaker 1: these spots, because this is the spot on which you
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Speaker 1: could take the Steelers. But we knew we were getting
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Speaker 1: so lucky in these games.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also that just shows you can't complain if
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Speaker 2: you if you've been riding with us on Pittsburgh and yeah,
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Speaker 2: if you didn't get the early number, then when Chad
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Speaker 2: gave it out, yeah it stinks. It's a tough loss,
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Speaker 2: but he just told you over time this has been profitable.
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Speaker 2: Like the key here is we're trying to avoid the
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Speaker 2: train wrecks, right like the Carolina we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: about a minute. That's a train wreck. The Titans was
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Speaker 2: a train wreck, and that was really hard for me
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Speaker 2: and Chad to avoid. That was a big number. I
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Speaker 2: checked the night before it had gotten up to seven
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Speaker 2: in the contest, and it was up to seven and
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Speaker 2: a half, and I thought about texting you about it,
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Speaker 2: and I was just like, you know what, I'm not
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Speaker 2: doing it. I just this kid Will Levis. I've seen
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Speaker 2: the stats, like he's just bad right now, simply bad.
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Speaker 2: And that was even on him, Like that was crazy.
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Speaker 2: How their their defense just got totally blown out by
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars. So that's the thing. We love Rabel, we
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Speaker 2: love playing him as a dog. It's the same with Tomlin.
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Speaker 2: It's harder to pick your spots right with these guys.
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Speaker 2: And the Tomlin win burned us this week. I mean
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Speaker 2: that's just like you said, we live and die with it.
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Speaker 2: But as you like to say, you gave it out
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Speaker 2: at plus four. That was a great key number, Like
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Speaker 2: four is an important number, and yeah, this is going
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Speaker 2: to be a loss ats wise for Pittsburgh. But anyone
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Speaker 2: listened to the show bet at Sunday night, bet at Monday,
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Speaker 2: then listen to the show Tuesday. I had all Tuesday
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Speaker 2: to bet it. I think the number changed. Well Wednesday
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Speaker 2: morning was that injury report came out. I believe that's tough,
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Speaker 2: Like that's tough because I'm right there with you where
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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I won pennies because I had a
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Speaker 2: bunch of fours, but My big bets were on the
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Speaker 2: two and a half and the two. So it's like,
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Speaker 2: I wish I could be there celebrating with Chad, but
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Speaker 2: I got slaughtered on that Pittsburgh game. That's tough. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The Steelers have played forty five consecutive games without reaching
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Speaker 1: four hundred yards on offense.
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Speaker 2: It's incredible, Like, how does.
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Speaker 1: Matt Canada have a job? How are they not blown
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Speaker 1: it all up? You watch that team and you're like,
15:52
Speaker 1: this is so upsetting if you're a fan of the Steelers.
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Speaker 1: It's great as a better It's really it's great as
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Speaker 1: an underbetter. The under opened at thirty eight and a
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Speaker 1: half closed around thirty three to thirty four after the
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson new So like, at least at least we
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Speaker 1: were able to get the under in this game.
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Speaker 2: But all it says to me is, I'm not the
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Speaker 2: biggest kirkban I do think it matters for Kirk is
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Speaker 2: indoors and outdoors. But that's a guy they have to
16:19
Speaker 2: be targeting this offseason. Clearly, the team is there. You
16:22
Speaker 2: got the weapons. I mean you just talk over running
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Speaker 2: back is going for one forty. He just became a starter.
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Speaker 2: Like they got two backs. They got the receivers, they
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Speaker 2: got the tight end, they got question marks on the
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Speaker 2: O line, but they're just missing the quarterback. I mean
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Speaker 2: they haven't had a quarterback. I mean that that statue
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Speaker 2: just gave leaks into Roethlisberger, like that's how bad Roethlisberger
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Speaker 2: was at the end two. Yeah, they just have not
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Speaker 2: had a guy there that could come in an offense
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Speaker 2: in five years, four years. So yeah, we talk of
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Speaker 2: the time it's a QB league, like it's it's very rare.
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Speaker 2: You have the ravens of the past where it didn't matter.
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Speaker 2: It was Trent dilfor the the year Payton managed arm
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Speaker 2: was broken, it didn't matter. Denver just had that incredible defense.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to get away with it now
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Speaker 2: in this league, right, Like you need guys to complete
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Speaker 2: these third down passes. So yeah, that's that's what's stunk. Chad.
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Speaker 2: That was right there, that Pittsburgh when was right there,
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Speaker 2: and we just we just didn't have the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: For US Dallas at Carolina. Carolina was ten and a half.
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Speaker 1: We love this All week, we were confident about this one.
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Speaker 1: All made total sense. We never waivered. I think that
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Speaker 1: confidence might have been misplaced, but honestly, like in the.
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Speaker 2: First half, Carolina's terrible.
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Speaker 1: Carolina is terrible. But look, Carolina was gave up ten
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Speaker 1: points combined in the first half on two different drives
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Speaker 1: in which they could have gotten off the field. So
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Speaker 1: third and nineteen one guy in the same play on
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Speaker 1: the same player on the same tackle, Yeah, made it
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Speaker 1: a horse collar and a face mask in crowded Dallas
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Speaker 1: went on to score of field goal end of the
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Speaker 1: first half. Dallas is driving two different times penalties on
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Speaker 1: Carolina on fourth down to get off the field. So
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Speaker 1: that's ten points right there. And then even in the
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Speaker 1: second half, they were they had like the longest drive
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Speaker 1: of the season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're only down seven, they're.
18:12
Speaker 1: Down seven, and then the fourth quarter the wheels just
18:18
Speaker 1: come off. Like, how was Frank Bright coaching in the NFL?
18:22
Speaker 2: I know? And that's that's what stinks, is like when
18:25
Speaker 2: you're betting bad teams, you hit a point where teams
18:27
Speaker 2: just simply give up and they give up on their coach.
18:32
Speaker 2: And that's clearly what happened there in Carolina because you
18:36
Speaker 2: just said it. Dallas wasn't playing that well, Like there
18:38
Speaker 2: was tons of opportunities even on these third downs, Like
18:41
Speaker 2: Dak was getting really lucky on their first touchdown, he
18:43
Speaker 2: was basically about to get sacked through a little dump off.
18:46
Speaker 2: The guy took it all the way up the field,
18:47
Speaker 2: and yeah, they got touched on that drive. But it's
18:50
Speaker 2: just Carolina was there there in the spot. But we
18:54
Speaker 2: say all the time, like if if once you lose
18:59
Speaker 2: a little bit of will to fight, it's over in football,
19:02
Speaker 2: Like you have to have such an edge mentally to
19:05
Speaker 2: play this sport. And yeah, they were still kind of
19:08
Speaker 2: in it. It was a one possession I believe they
19:10
Speaker 2: get a touchdown, they get the ball back, and I
19:12
Speaker 2: think that's when the pick six.
19:13
Speaker 1: Happened, and that's just that's a pick six.
19:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, so brutal where you know, we thought we had
19:19
Speaker 2: a chance, You thought you were in it, and know
19:22
Speaker 2: that Carolina. Maybe they'll come back around and uh, you know,
19:27
Speaker 2: maybe they'll end the season from this point forward, split
19:30
Speaker 2: Nick on fifty ats, but they won't. They won't be
19:34
Speaker 2: in our contest. Maybe if they fire the head coach,
19:36
Speaker 2: we'll get back on them. But they're definitely on my
19:38
Speaker 2: black list now off teams where I don't care if
19:40
Speaker 2: the number is really good and attractive and maybe they'll
19:43
Speaker 2: cover next week and I'm missing a spot. I'm just
19:45
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stay away until they make a change
19:47
Speaker 2: at the coaching position.
19:49
Speaker 1: Well, look, we're you're subscribing to my theory now from
19:54
Speaker 1: last week, which is there's bad quarterbacks you're willing to
19:57
Speaker 1: bet in the spot, backup quarter who you're willing to
20:01
Speaker 1: take because the situation and the coaching. And then there's
20:04
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who you just know can't execute. And even if
20:07
Speaker 1: all the value in the world is there, you're not
20:10
Speaker 1: going to take Mac Jones, Zach Wilson. You're saying Bryce
20:13
Speaker 1: Young has become players. Uh so does that mean when
20:19
Speaker 1: I think right now Tennessee is a four point favorite
20:23
Speaker 1: at a home next week against Carolina if I'm not mistaken,
20:27
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it yet, but I
20:29
Speaker 1: definitely wrote it down to get your take on it,
20:31
Speaker 1: because I thought it was interesting that Will Levis would
20:34
Speaker 1: all of a sudden be a favorite. The most excruciating
20:39
Speaker 1: game of the day.
20:40
Speaker 2: I think rabel is worth four points on that spread,
20:42
Speaker 2: right kind of? Yeah, that's all That's what I would say.
20:47
Speaker 1: So the most excruciating game of the day. We loved Miami.
20:50
Speaker 1: We were like all in on a big favorite. Yeah,
20:53
Speaker 1: Simon says when it was twelve, Miami should have won
20:58
Speaker 1: this game by one hundred million points to a tumbled
21:02
Speaker 1: on theirs to a fumbled and tumbled on the first
21:06
Speaker 1: drive of the game. They had no points at the
21:08
Speaker 1: goal line going forward on fourth down in the first half.
21:11
Speaker 1: A fumble at the end of the first half leads
21:13
Speaker 1: to a Las Vegas field goal, to a picked on
21:16
Speaker 1: the second play of the second of the second half
21:18
Speaker 1: miss field goal. Through the third quarter, Miami had nine possessions,
21:23
Speaker 1: no punts in a four point lead. Las Vegas was
21:26
Speaker 1: two of eleven on third down conversions, and yet they
21:30
Speaker 1: still had a shot to cover. When Aidan O'Connell was
21:36
Speaker 1: falling back, just threw it up and Miami player defensive
21:40
Speaker 1: line caught it, intercepted it, was going to run it
21:43
Speaker 1: back for a touchdown and tripped over eight in O'Connell.
21:47
Speaker 1: And that was the game. That was the entire game.
21:50
Speaker 1: So frustrating.
21:53
Speaker 2: It is, but it's it's life, Ben and big favorites
21:56
Speaker 2: or big dogs. Yeah, now it's tough for the just
22:00
Speaker 2: said it like I thought we were getting there. Man,
22:02
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie when it was all funky, and
22:05
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it was seven. It was, oh
22:07
Speaker 2: my god, we're back to seven. All we need is
22:09
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Now we're gonna get that touchdown. And I
22:11
Speaker 2: didn't think it was gonna be from Tua because I'm
22:13
Speaker 2: with you. I thought too. It just looked bad all game,
22:16
Speaker 2: just missing easy throws, wasn't an accurate like he usually
22:20
Speaker 2: is the defense where I thought we're gonna get it.
22:22
Speaker 2: I was like, he's gonna throw us another one and
22:24
Speaker 2: we'll get that pick six. So yeah, another game. I
22:28
Speaker 2: lost way too much money on just a bad bet.
22:31
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Miami, I'll do it again. Like you guys
22:35
Speaker 2: are having to get used to this because Miami is
22:36
Speaker 2: giving the spot for the next five years, Like we're
22:40
Speaker 2: gonna have this Tua combo at home where it's like
22:43
Speaker 2: they do just play better at home, like their offense
22:45
Speaker 2: plays better at home. And even though they played bad
22:47
Speaker 2: in that game, like Tragic said, we were never out
22:49
Speaker 2: of it, Like that's one of those games where like
22:51
Speaker 2: you're always in it. So as painful as this is,
22:54
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's a bad read, we're probably gonna keep making.
22:58
Speaker 2: It's just they're just a different team. At home than
22:59
Speaker 2: they are on the So it's just something to keep
23:01
Speaker 2: them on where you're gonna either be buying or selling
23:03
Speaker 2: this team at home as a big number like they
23:06
Speaker 2: are today. And yeah to us, to a burned us,
23:08
Speaker 2: he just had a really bad game as a big favorite.
23:12
Speaker 1: Well, the good news is I'm pretty sure I also
23:16
Speaker 1: wrote down Miami for next week because they might be
23:20
Speaker 1: in the same position. I can't I can't be the
23:21
Speaker 1: schedule quick enough right now. But yeah, just a brutal,
23:25
Speaker 1: brutal beat. We totally should have had that. By the way, Simon,
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Speaker 1: thirty Hoboken, New Jersey. All right, let's see, we had
24:38
Speaker 1: Arizona plus five. It was the Foxhole. I guess we
24:43
Speaker 1: pushed there. I mean, you were on that all week,
24:45
Speaker 1: so people should have been listening because even a week
24:47
Speaker 1: ago Sunday you were on it. I think at five
24:50
Speaker 1: and a half we were hoping it would get the
24:53
Speaker 1: six didn't get there. Uncharacteristic interceptions from CJ. Stroud, who
24:59
Speaker 1: was brilliant in the first probably would have covered that game.
25:02
Speaker 1: He threw a pick with about two and a half
25:04
Speaker 1: minutes left when they were in field goal range. So
25:07
Speaker 1: how'd you feel with that game going on?
25:11
Speaker 2: It was fun, but yeah, it was a sweat. It's
25:14
Speaker 2: CJ is scary as hell. It's not fun bend against him.
25:17
Speaker 2: But I'm stubborn and I think he's now. Owen four
25:22
Speaker 2: is a favorite, Evan, Is that right? Cjda Owen four
25:24
Speaker 2: is a favorite this season, so obviously it's a trend.
25:28
Speaker 2: I mean the number got too big. I thought I
25:31
Speaker 2: had gotten too big. The books are so sharp, I
25:34
Speaker 2: couldn't believe. In Atlanta on five, it was like, what
25:38
Speaker 2: a wacky number. Yes, it really is. So we talked
25:43
Speaker 2: all the time though, it's the way the NFL is now.
25:45
Speaker 2: Team's going for two, Carolina went for two. They didn't
25:47
Speaker 2: get it lance five. It's just it's crazy how important
25:51
Speaker 2: two and a half and five have become in the
25:53
Speaker 2: last four or five years. So yeah, like, like you said,
25:58
Speaker 2: wouldn't it matter? Like we we we didn't even talk
26:00
Speaker 2: about taking Pittsburgh. The only team we talked about was
26:04
Speaker 2: the Bears. But yeah, just just just a nice cover
26:11
Speaker 2: by Kyler and he continues to be the kind of
26:14
Speaker 2: guy that he's got. You flashes a ton of talent
26:16
Speaker 2: and then he can do nothing for in half. It's
26:18
Speaker 2: just how Kyler is. He's got one of the highest
26:22
Speaker 2: athletic abilities I've ever seen, but inconsistent as a thrower.
26:28
Speaker 2: But they've done him no favors, right, Arizona is so
26:30
Speaker 2: bare bones? What do you want to dote? Yeah, like
26:34
Speaker 2: getting rid of Hopkins doesn't make sense. Why they made
26:37
Speaker 2: that move? You saw today, he didn't have somebody he
26:39
Speaker 2: could trust and go to on third downs. So yeah,
26:43
Speaker 2: impressive color by and cover by the Cardinals because you
26:47
Speaker 2: said it, they had they needed all these turnovers in
26:49
Speaker 2: the red zone. I mean at the end there they're
26:52
Speaker 2: gonna use to kick a field goal Houston, they got
26:54
Speaker 2: to pick on CJ. So you're right, like this, this
26:58
Speaker 2: is a bad aid game for him. Still put up
27:01
Speaker 2: over two fifty in the first half passing yards and
27:03
Speaker 2: put up twenty one points. Like the kid. It's incredible
27:07
Speaker 2: how nflready he is.
27:09
Speaker 1: He took a hit, was out for a play, came back.
27:13
Speaker 1: You would have thought it was going to be a
27:15
Speaker 1: quick throw, scrambled through a laser on third and seventeen
27:20
Speaker 1: to take down for a first down. Like he just
27:23
Speaker 1: got it. He's just got it. He's totally got it.
27:26
Speaker 1: You mentioned two and a half as as becoming a
27:30
Speaker 1: key number, which is interesting because we're going to talk
27:32
Speaker 1: about that in a second with Sunday Night Football and
27:34
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. But reminder, Foxhole Arizona plus five, Simon says,
27:39
Speaker 1: Miami plus twelve or minus twelve. Exact decision was Pittsburgh
27:43
Speaker 1: plus four. Big balls was Carolina plus ten and a half.
27:47
Speaker 1: Survivor was Jacksonville, so we won there. Round robin. A
27:50
Speaker 1: tough day, tough day, Arizona, Carolina, Philly is still to
27:54
Speaker 1: play pitt Chicago. All right, our lean for Sunday night.
28:00
Speaker 1: H we need Denver for our lungs, as Bob Scooci
28:03
Speaker 1: likes to say, we need Denver minus two and a
28:06
Speaker 1: half four ur lungs. This is the difference between two
28:10
Speaker 1: and three or one and four for the first time
28:12
Speaker 1: all season.
28:13
Speaker 2: What's the deal though, we dropped two no matter what
28:15
Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving?
28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, so right now I think we absolutely don't care.
28:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I care because I want to win money.
28:25
Speaker 2: But I think our worst week this year is two
28:28
Speaker 2: and three.
28:29
Speaker 1: I think we have two two and three weeks.
28:31
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that'd be nice to get two and
28:33
Speaker 2: three obviously, like I want to win money, but yeah,
28:37
Speaker 2: if that if the Bears had lost, you would see
28:40
Speaker 2: me dying here right now if that hadn't covered. Like
28:42
Speaker 2: I just I really needed that one. So yeah, still
28:46
Speaker 2: feel the same, feeling good about Denver, like the number,
28:49
Speaker 2: like their defense in this spot against Dobbs have zero
28:53
Speaker 2: confidence right now after today. I just did so bad
28:56
Speaker 2: today betting wise got no confidence, but still believe it's
28:59
Speaker 2: still even Denver. I think it's a good spot. So yeah,
29:02
Speaker 2: hopefully it comes through for us. I know a couple
29:04
Speaker 2: of books went up to three then move back to
29:06
Speaker 2: two and a half. It just seems like everyone's split
29:08
Speaker 2: on this. People just beat both sides on this one.
29:10
Speaker 1: I think it's depending on the number right now. Uh.
29:13
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it and convinced me this
29:14
Speaker 1: morning where you and you were on Denver raybounds, what
29:17
Speaker 1: was on uh Minnesota. Yeah, And I just didn't like
29:21
Speaker 1: the number three. There's no edge there for me. So
29:24
Speaker 1: I passed on that and took Sean Cerner Harrison Smith
29:27
Speaker 1: under six and a half tackles a pretty big juice.
29:29
Speaker 1: I just went pretty five instead. It's not agous, that's
29:32
Speaker 1: not courageous, that's not cowardly. That's courageous because I want
29:36
Speaker 1: to put money in my pocket Monday night football. The
29:40
Speaker 1: number has bounced. Two and a half three, two and
29:42
Speaker 1: a half three. We liked Philly from the beginning at
29:46
Speaker 1: this time last week. I'm still a little nervous about.
29:50
Speaker 2: It though, Yeah, still nervous about it. Was gonna was
29:56
Speaker 2: gonna make this my convinced me pick. But I've been
29:59
Speaker 2: straight mush, I'm convinced me. So I stayed away as
30:02
Speaker 2: a fan of my Eagles team. I was like, I
30:03
Speaker 2: can't put my stink on this number. Almost pitched them
30:08
Speaker 2: to you this morning because it was three and a
30:10
Speaker 2: half at night when I checked, but it was back
30:12
Speaker 2: to two and a half, so I didn't even bring
30:13
Speaker 2: it up because we both said it. It's like we're
30:15
Speaker 2: either taking the three or just not taking this game
30:18
Speaker 2: with the Eagles. And that's what I did this week.
30:20
Speaker 2: I mean, we get off this call, maybe I'll put
30:24
Speaker 2: another bet in and push this into my top five
30:26
Speaker 2: biggest bets, you know, by kickoff tomorrow. If this gets
30:30
Speaker 2: to three, this could end up being one of my
30:32
Speaker 2: bigger bets, like into my top five. But I've been
30:35
Speaker 2: pretty good just staying away from this one just because
30:38
Speaker 2: I am scared of my homes. I'm just I'm scared
30:40
Speaker 2: of the guy. But matchup wise, is a great match
30:43
Speaker 2: for the Eagles. The Chiefs their offense now goes through
30:46
Speaker 2: the run. That's basically everything they do is based off
30:49
Speaker 2: the run. They're passing, schemes, everything, So the Eagles Number
30:53
Speaker 2: one strength is run. Defense, Jurgens is back. It's a
30:57
Speaker 2: guard that plays for the Eagles, which is like, it
30:59
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a big deal, but the difference between
31:01
Speaker 2: him and the backup is like fifty yards per game
31:04
Speaker 2: rushing for the Eagles offense. He's just a key to
31:07
Speaker 2: that running block scheme that the Eagles do. So yeah,
31:10
Speaker 2: I'm confident Eagles. In the Eagles chat at the three
31:13
Speaker 2: at two and a half, we gave you all the
31:15
Speaker 2: stats about Mahomes. I can't follow you if you're taking
31:17
Speaker 2: homes at two and a half, but yeah, yeah, we're
31:20
Speaker 2: still in the three.
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Speaker 1: In Week twelve, there's three Thanksgiving games, there's one Black
32:51
Speaker 1: Friday game. All four of those are division games. Begging
32:55
Speaker 1: us to take the underdogs. We saw it again this week, right,
33:00
Speaker 1: saw it with the Bears. We saw it with the Giants,
33:06
Speaker 1: you know, the road teams, the underdogs. We saw it
33:12
Speaker 1: with the Rams, who were underdogs at one point. I'm
33:15
Speaker 1: counting them here, like that's decide you want to take.
33:19
Speaker 1: We got green Bay plus seven and a half at
33:22
Speaker 1: Detroit Washington plus ten and a half at Dallas. San
33:27
Speaker 1: Francisco is four and a half on the road at Seattle.
33:31
Speaker 2: You want the updated lines, These.
33:34
Speaker 1: Are the lines I saw right before I came on
33:35
Speaker 1: the show.
33:36
Speaker 2: Do you have different lines already? Moving? Baby? Seahawks are
33:38
Speaker 2: now plus six against the forty nine Ers. That's a
33:42
Speaker 2: moving Commanders up till plus eleven against the Cowboys and
33:47
Speaker 2: the Packers. God, Packers are still seven and a half.
33:51
Speaker 1: What about Miami at the New York Jets.
33:55
Speaker 2: It's minus seven and a half Miami.
33:57
Speaker 1: Wow.
34:01
Speaker 2: So yeah, one he's coming in fast. I mean again,
34:05
Speaker 2: you're gonna blink. These games are gonna be here. Are
34:08
Speaker 2: we doing? What are we doing? I have no I
34:10
Speaker 2: have no life. I have no family, so I can
34:12
Speaker 2: work Thursday. Are we off Thursday? Well, like you and
34:15
Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell have a normal life.
34:17
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, we are We are not. We don't have
34:21
Speaker 1: a show on Thursday. You just have Tuesday, right, Yeah,
34:23
Speaker 1: we'll tell people that on too.
34:24
Speaker 2: Yeah we'll have more. We'll do obviously, way more about
34:27
Speaker 2: these four Tuesday. But first glance, I'm with Chad like,
34:32
Speaker 2: that's crazy amount of movement. I want to be I
34:36
Speaker 2: look like every dog, except I can't believe I'm about
34:39
Speaker 2: to say this kind of like uh, kind of like
34:43
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, but that's it's probably moved too much.
34:47
Speaker 2: This is it's probably moved too much. Now, well, look,
34:50
Speaker 2: you're probably the value is probably on Seattle, right.
34:52
Speaker 1: Well, they probably moved off of Gino Smith right like
34:54
Speaker 1: he came back in, but we don't really know.
34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I didn't even think of that. So
34:59
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a little
35:00
Speaker 2: bet on it right now because Chad's right, Uh, Drew
35:04
Speaker 2: Locke might be the guy for the Seahawks, so again,
35:09
Speaker 2: this beck could change. I'm just gonna bet this now
35:11
Speaker 2: because the six is still available to a couple of books.
35:13
Speaker 2: A couple of books are shown actually lower numbers, so
35:15
Speaker 2: shop around. I'm just I'm just talking bet three sixty
35:18
Speaker 2: five on here. But yeah, that's a good point. I
35:21
Speaker 2: didn't I forgot. You know, Gino was a little banged
35:23
Speaker 2: up in that game. So yeah, I'm gonna take a
35:25
Speaker 2: little taste here on the forty nine ers.
35:28
Speaker 1: So two games that I looked at outside of Thursday
35:34
Speaker 1: and Friday, and if you feel strongly like if you're
35:39
Speaker 1: going to bet anything from Thursday and Friday. Speak now,
35:44
Speaker 1: the most interesting game to me is green Bay plus
35:47
Speaker 1: seven and a half of Detroit.
35:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, your bet. You're betting on back to back bad
35:56
Speaker 2: golf games. That's that's what this bet is because without
36:01
Speaker 2: the golf giving the turnovers to the Bears, the Bears
36:04
Speaker 2: will never be in that game. Their offense indoors the
36:08
Speaker 2: Lions is unbelievable. They're just so high powered. They wear
36:11
Speaker 2: you out of the two running back system, and they
36:14
Speaker 2: have a great rookie tight end and I mean, I'm
36:17
Speaker 2: on Saint Brown just feels like he's always going to
36:19
Speaker 2: get open. So yes, as you said here right now,
36:23
Speaker 2: my instincts is a joint Chad after green Bay just
36:26
Speaker 2: won a big game at home. But this is probably
36:29
Speaker 2: the time to fade them and take a Chalky pick
36:32
Speaker 2: here in Detroit on a noon game. But I don't
36:35
Speaker 2: want to do it because Chad will give you the
36:36
Speaker 2: stat like these divisional games late in the season like this,
36:40
Speaker 2: you usually want to take the dog. So it's a
36:42
Speaker 2: tough number for me to play right now.
36:44
Speaker 1: It's why we know Dallas, we know Washington is the
36:49
Speaker 1: right side as a double digit dog on the road
36:52
Speaker 1: at Dallas divisional games. You've heard us recite the stats
36:56
Speaker 1: all season, and we'll recite them again on Tuesday, Like
36:59
Speaker 1: this is the spot when you take the dog. It's
37:01
Speaker 1: like we did with the Bears, It's like people did
37:03
Speaker 1: with the Giants. But the problem is in this spot
37:08
Speaker 1: is when Dak dominates bad teams as a big favorite
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Speaker 1: at home. He is a front runner, folks, and when
37:15
Speaker 1: they're playing a bad team, he tends to cover well.
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Speaker 2: Evan might, Evan might have Dak's Thanksgiving stats, but I
37:22
Speaker 2: feel like I've made good money Chad Ben against Dak
37:26
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, Like, Okay, I have a vivid memory of
37:30
Speaker 2: me betting the Raiders and the Raiders were dead, and
37:33
Speaker 2: I think I won outright. What was it last year
37:37
Speaker 2: we ticked, we took the Giants and we had some
37:39
Speaker 2: stupid back door by the Giants, or maybe it was
37:41
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and we held it. But I just remember,
37:43
Speaker 2: there's always these games are always a little weird. Here
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Speaker 2: we go, Dak. Thank you, Evan, You're the man, even
37:49
Speaker 2: even when Evans in Vegas still giving us good stats.
37:51
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott on Thanksgiving three and three straight up not
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Speaker 2: terrible he is one in five ats, one in five
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Speaker 2: first half ats. His one in five ATS mark on
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is the worst of any quarterback since nineteen ninety.
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Speaker 2: So there's your answer. Like I feel like I just
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Speaker 2: it's one of my brain notes is just to fade
38:13
Speaker 2: Dack no matter the number on Thanksgiving. Wow, you can
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Speaker 2: ride the trend with those people, but this is this
38:18
Speaker 2: is something you just have to play every year kind of.
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Speaker 1: So it's very possible we might want to wait because
38:23
Speaker 1: there's so much hype on Dallas and Washington just had
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Speaker 1: a bad loss. This number could go up.
38:29
Speaker 2: That's true now, and we saw Sam hal got a
38:32
Speaker 2: little banged up in that game. So Jad's right. We
38:35
Speaker 2: went to wait and see before you take this number.
38:37
Speaker 2: That's fair.
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Speaker 1: Two games on Sunday that I wrote down, Yeah, Las
38:42
Speaker 1: Vegas plus ten at home against Kansas City feels like
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Speaker 1: in early bet we gotta go in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 2: The pros are with the attready down to nine and
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Speaker 2: a half.
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Speaker 1: Good lord, if I could get it while I'm on
38:55
Speaker 1: this show, I would another game Angelus Chargers plus four
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Speaker 1: and a half hosting Baltimore.
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Speaker 2: Oh god, you.
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Speaker 1: Know it's the right side. It's one hundred percent the
39:10
Speaker 1: right side.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it definitely is.
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Speaker 1: I just actually wonder will it go up. The Chargers
39:16
Speaker 1: are tragic.
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Speaker 2: I hate the Charger experience. It's horrible.
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Speaker 1: It's they are so tragic. Brandon Staley is just out
39:24
Speaker 1: of his depth. And we saw it again today, like
39:27
Speaker 1: they had a chance to win that game. We talked
39:28
Speaker 1: about it and I convinced me today, like you talked
39:31
Speaker 1: about the first half. Bet right, So the game ends
39:35
Speaker 1: up tied at the end of the first half, so
39:36
Speaker 1: the Chargers don't cover. But in the second half when
39:39
Speaker 1: it's time to make adjustments and become a better team.
39:42
Speaker 1: Even though the Chargers have all the talent, the Packers
39:45
Speaker 1: win the game because they make better plays. And some
39:47
Speaker 1: of the players that are making they were the same
39:49
Speaker 1: plays over and over against the defense that Brandon Staley
39:51
Speaker 1: is calling. Like he was getting receivers open in one
39:54
Speaker 1: on one situations behind the defense and Jordan Love was
39:57
Speaker 1: hitting those guys. That was it. Like, Brandon Staley is
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Speaker 1: the reason this team stinks, a team with so much talent.
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Speaker 2: It's bad.
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Speaker 1: Right now, this number's gonna go This number is gonna
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Speaker 1: go up. I wouldn't bet it yet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there with you, like I got no read
40:10
Speaker 2: on it, just because the pro mean wants to take
40:12
Speaker 2: the Chargers. But it's hard to say that the Ravens
40:16
Speaker 2: are overvalued or anything on the spot when they've just
40:18
Speaker 2: been such a better team this season, like they're they're way.
40:22
Speaker 2: They're much more consistent than the Chargers have been defensively
40:25
Speaker 2: and offensively. So yeah, I'm with you, Chad. That definite
40:29
Speaker 2: jumps out. I wouldn't touch it yet.
40:31
Speaker 1: Have you made any bets yet?
40:33
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, people, I gotta do it. Pittsburgh's a dog
40:36
Speaker 2: right now going to Cincinnati. They're plus one playing against
40:40
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's backup. I like Pittsburgh. That's that's a that's a
40:43
Speaker 2: that's a nice number. Get them as a dog right now.
40:45
Speaker 2: They're plus plus one, plus one and a half. I
40:48
Speaker 2: grabbed that number right when it opened. Another one. I
40:51
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm finally doing it, jumping on the Giants bandwagon.
40:56
Speaker 2: Uh plus plus thirty five, I mean plus three and
40:59
Speaker 2: a half against New England at home. It's gross. I'm
41:03
Speaker 2: totally with you, people, like I get where you're coming from.
41:06
Speaker 2: I just I could see this number getting a three
41:08
Speaker 2: two and a half I just are the professionals really
41:12
Speaker 2: going to keep backing dak as a favorite? I don't know.
41:17
Speaker 2: I don't know, So I'm gonna pay and see I'm
41:19
Speaker 2: gonna grab the three and a half now, just because
41:22
Speaker 2: I at least have some faith in this in this
41:24
Speaker 2: Giants team, like the kid Divito finally grew Anny Divito.
41:29
Speaker 1: Touchdown Tony TV stands for touch down.
41:34
Speaker 2: Put the ball downfield, and that's what I want from
41:36
Speaker 2: a quarterback. It's like, I don't care if you're completing it.
41:38
Speaker 2: At least push the ball downfield and showing me that
41:40
Speaker 2: you have some type of confidence. And he completed it
41:43
Speaker 2: this week, so it might be able to burn us
41:44
Speaker 2: next week. But it's three and a half against Max Shones.
41:48
Speaker 2: I mean, who the hell is Max Jones. We catch
41:49
Speaker 2: a three and a half against anyone, So I'll take
41:51
Speaker 2: that number.
41:52
Speaker 1: On the road against. By the way, Teithon Thibodeau is
41:56
Speaker 1: coming on the last four weeks. He has been a
41:58
Speaker 1: force on the defensive line. So the games we're talking
42:04
Speaker 1: about right now.
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Speaker 2: Just gross, just gross.
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Speaker 1: It's gross. Pittsburgh plus one, Las Vegas plus ten if
42:11
Speaker 1: you find it somewhere, Giants plus three and a half.
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