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- 0:01Hello everybody, and welcome to the Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian
- 0:04Alison and this is another episode of Maintaining Frame. Hopefully Rumble will stay up
- 0:08this time. It kind of died last time. I don't know why,
- 0:12so I'm going to keep an eye on it and make sure that it's running.
- 0:15I don't know if that's like something. Maybe they got dds. I
- 0:18don't know. I don't know who knows, who knows. Yeah, there's
- 0:21always something. It's always something new. Well, I mean, yeah,
- 0:26the internet is it is a place? And how is my volume? By
- 0:31the way, is that good? It sounds good? All right? Yeah,
- 0:34yeah, I think it's good. All right, holding up my end
- 0:37here? Good volume? Okay, I know it's a low bar. Okay.
- 0:46So today we're going to be looking at a couple of things that seem
- 0:50to be like lining up. So if you have your pattern recognition sensors turned
- 0:56up just a little above average, and you spend any time on the internet,
- 1:00you might have noticed that men are getting fed up and they're starting to
- 1:07behave in a way that women are not comfortable with. And I don't mean
- 1:11like in a way that's dangerous, but just sort of like you know,
- 1:15making I don't know, they're trolling the women online and it's really upsetting and
- 1:22it's upsetting all the women, and I think that it's something that we should
- 1:26be looking at. And so I got this. Someone sent me someone a
- 1:34substack. Yeah, well sort of. I mean it's somebody. I don't
- 1:38want to get into like naming names, but somebody sent me this substack as
- 1:42a means of making an argument because of that tweet that is still by the
- 1:46way, still people are commenting on it. A tweet where I said,
- 1:52okay, yeah, go ladies. Yeah, I'll just give a little refresher
- 1:56really quick. I have to bring it back up because I don't want to
- 1:59want to like misquote my self. No, but in the tweet, I
- 2:02said, see I have to scroll down. It was like a few days
- 2:06ago, you know, like I've moved on, but apparently others have not.
- 2:10Well, so sometimes you just hit a nerve, you know, Yeah,
- 2:14you can't really predict. Yeah, So, so I made a tweet
- 2:21and maybe you guys can help me, because I don't know if this is
- 2:23a good ratio or a bad ratio. I don't know, Like I've heard
- 2:25people say, people so and so got ratioed on Twitter. I don't know
- 2:29what that means, and I don't know if I'm doing well or not.
- 2:30But I made this tweet. Yeah, I'm gonna display it. Let me
- 2:35just grab the link and put it in here and then I will share this
- 2:42tab and put it on the screen. I get to see it, Okay,
- 2:45all right, yeah, so now you guys can see it. I
- 2:49just had to get it. Yeah. And it goes a little something like
- 2:53this. I said, ladies, if men had any intention of actually oppressing
- 2:57you, they would and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
- 3:00But they don't. And it's really shitty that you live under this impression that
- 3:05they hate you enough to do it, much less that they do it now.
- 3:08So this is sort of me saying that there are women out here that
- 3:14believe that men oppress them. Those are the feminists. And then there are
- 3:16the women out here that believe men don't oppress them but could oppress them or
- 3:22would oppress them, yeah without feminism, or they would just be like it's
- 3:28in their nature to just do it, right, and it it stirred so
- 3:31much shit. Okay when I said this, and it was I mean,
- 3:37I guess this is like part of a broader series of like, you know,
- 3:42conversations that were going on. I was simply making the point, like
- 3:45the truth is is that men wanted to oppress women, they would just be
- 3:47oppressed because if everything comes down to the exercise of force, like you can
- 3:53have laws and you can like make you know, policies and all of this,
- 3:57but all of that is just to keep people civil. And if people
- 4:00just stop being civil, men win. And I know it sounds mean,
- 4:04but it's the truth. Then the thing is, men don't want to do
- 4:08that. It's the last thing they want to do. They'll like be willing
- 4:10to put up with all this other shit, right, And I don't know
- 4:13if they even have it in them to do it at all, But the
- 4:15point is they can. And that and the fact that women online, whether
- 4:21they are feminists or not right or whatever they identify with, it doesn't matter.
- 4:27Most of them have a line that they won't. They basically live in
- 4:31fear of men generally. I think that they just fear men. Right,
- 4:34I'm gonna get in here because I got a commentary, all right. I
- 4:39want to point out that this is a framework that we're all operating in and
- 4:45the reason why I say that is yes, in terms of force or even
- 4:47just walking away men, men are the ones who who determine what happens.
- 4:55Men don't even have to enact any force. They just have to stop doing
- 4:58the jobs to keep society run and then that's it. We're done. Okay,
- 5:02So we need consent, men's consent to keep the society running. And
- 5:08at this point it's really mostly men. That hasn't been mostly men throughout all
- 5:12of human history. I mean, go back before the Industrial Revolution and society
- 5:16wouldn't exist without women's labor. But now in this era that is the case.
- 5:23The case is that men are the predominant parties keeping this society running.
- 5:27They withdraw their consent, it ceases to run. Now, what I wanted
- 5:30to say is that saying that men oppress women or could oppress women exists within
- 5:36a framework, and that framework is that they would ever make the collective decision
- 5:45to do so, because in my opinion, they never would. So I
- 5:49mean, and these women who are responding to you, Brian, live in
- 5:53that framework. We believe that men would make the collective decision to oppress women.
- 5:59I don't. I don't live in that framework like I don't see that
- 6:02actually happening. What I see happening is if there's a situation where men think
- 6:08that restricting women's freedom protects them, they might do that, but that's only
- 6:14because they don't want to see women dying, and that's it. Yeah,
- 6:19yeah, so they can do that in the context of protecting women, right,
- 6:25I don't believe that men. And one thing is, if men were
- 6:29going to take away women's right to vote, they would have done it when
- 6:32the majority of women were telling them not to give women the right to vote.
- 6:38People just memory hold this. Most women during the whole suffrage and suffragette
- 6:44and suffragist thing movements were against women's vote. Okay, so the majority of
- 6:50women said no, don't do this. It was men in power and suffragettes
- 6:57well actually they suffragists. Really a lot of political stuff going on at the
- 7:00time that led to this situation. If men collectively were going to take away
- 7:09women's vote, it would be when the majority of women agreed that women shouldn't
- 7:14have it, and also when they had the perfect reason to based on equality.
- 7:19Right, every group of disenfranchised men has had to protect the state that
- 7:25gives them the right to have an opinion about it, Like, if you
- 7:30have influence on the state, first you have to prove that you are going
- 7:33to protect the state that gives you those those rights or those privileges. That's
- 7:39the first thing that men have to do. They have to prove that they
- 7:41are willing to live to die for the state. You know, men prove
- 7:45that in the US and in the Revolutionary War, they literally fought and died
- 7:50to construct the state that gave them the rights. Right, lower class British
- 7:56men prove that in World War One. Black men prove that in the Civil
- 8:00War. Right, So every group of men has had to go to war
- 8:05and protect the civilization that could potentially grant them rights first before they got those
- 8:11rights. So, if men were ever going to not give women the vote,
- 8:16it would have been when the majority of women wanted them to not do
- 8:20it. We're agreed with women not getting the vote. And also they could
- 8:24have simply said, well, you have to go to war first, like
- 8:26every other group of disenfranchised men has throughout all of human history. They could
- 8:33have just done that. Then now that the majority of women want to keep
- 8:37the vote, and we have just completely rendered invisible the entire edifice of men's
- 8:43sacrifice for the society that gives people the right to vote. Like, we
- 8:48don't even talk we don't even talk about a Memorial Day. Remember that tweet
- 8:50that I did that literally everybody got on my case for well, it was
- 8:56a recognition that we don't recognize the sacrifices that men make for society. When
- 9:03we don't recognize it's the causal. The causal situation is this, we gave
- 9:07women something we would never have given men if they had not proven that they
- 9:11were willing to sacrifice for the society that granted it. Then we had to
- 9:16make this whole edifice of nonsense to pretend that women weren't getting this, that
- 9:22somehow society owed this to women but not to men because society uniquely expects women
- 9:28to sacrifice for it. You know, it's ridiculous, but anyway, So
- 9:33this whole edifice, and then we have this belief that society oppresses women,
- 9:37men oppress women essentially, which then leads to this attitude and like I said,
- 9:43I don't believe that men can oppress women. And the reason why is
- 9:48because they take too much of their identity around protecting and providing for them.
- 9:52If they were to, if there was a group of men who suddenly changed
- 9:56their identity changed overnight. You'd have to have a majority of men's identity change
- 10:01overnight to not wanting to protect and provide for women. And I can't see
- 10:07that happening. What I can see happening is again, women are self destructive.
- 10:15Women are killing themselves, They're cutting off their breasts, and we have
- 10:20to do something to protect women from themselves. That's what I see. But
- 10:22it won't be motivated because, oh, we want to oppress them because they
- 10:26hate them. It'll be motivated by women are being so self destructive that the
- 10:35only way for them to continue to be preserved is to go back to this
- 10:41idea of masculine authority. Right. Do you see what I'm saying to see
- 10:46the difference? Yeah, I do. I do. But look, I
- 10:50get it. You're critiquing my tweet. But I said it to make a
- 10:52point. Yeah, I mean, like I in the first sentence or the
- 10:56section, it's not even critiquing your tweet, I'm critiquing mentality. Like yeah,
- 11:01yeah, I would see this tweet and they say, oh, oh,
- 11:05he's just threatening me with oppression, right yeah, yeah, it's like,
- 11:09yeah, you know, he's he is appealing to a framework that you
- 11:13have constructed in which men would ever oppress women. Yeah, you're appealing to
- 11:20that framework. They are the ones that believe that. Maybe you do as
- 11:22well. I don't. I don't believe it, Like I just don't.
- 11:26I don't sure, O, sure, I do not believe that men would
- 11:31press women. It's why men's anger does not it doesn't frighten me. Yeah,
- 11:37it's because I've seen so much of men. They don't hate women.
- 11:41I don't think it's in them to hate women. Yeah, I think it's
- 11:45in them to construct a society that harms women. Anyway, that's my point.
- 11:50Yeah, So anyway, this is just like, so I got this
- 11:54sub sex. Somebody sent it to me as a reply to this. There
- 12:00were some other things sort of similar going on, like it's mine by the
- 12:05way, Yeah, I know it's a meal. The chatter saying that it's
- 12:07good, Like if I got more likes than comments, that means it's good.
- 12:11I also got more likes than both comments and quote tweets, although I
- 12:16was called a pick me, which is really funny. Yeah, I mean
- 12:24I get it. They see the Vivian James thing and they're like, oh,
- 12:26it's a woman, no wonder it's a handmaiden. But anyway, so
- 12:31this is the this is the substack I was sent. It's called The Opposite
- 12:35Sexual Revolution, and I haven't read it yet, but I think based on
- 12:43some of the stuff I've heard, uh, the idea, I'm gonna we're
- 12:46gonna go through it, right, sure? Yeah, so the actually get
- 12:50to Lauren Southern's video too, or yeah so yeah, well, I mean,
- 12:54I don't know, it depends on you know, this kind of a
- 12:58there's a lot going on. We also got tweets and yeah, there's a
- 13:03lot of fighting about this. The woman question has come up again, and
- 13:09you know, I just want to say that I've been seeing it going around
- 13:13and I'm like, I feel like I coined that because I've been saying that
- 13:15for a little while. It's basically like when people are talking about all of
- 13:18these different things going on in the world, and the last thing they want
- 13:22to do is be like, wait a minute, did women have something to
- 13:24do with this? Like it's the last thing that people want to say,
- 13:28and I think it's probably the most important. I mean, I think all
- 13:31the other stuff is a distraction, especially when it comes to like race,
- 13:35and social class, and religion and nationality and ethnicity. I think all those
- 13:41things are distractions. I think that you have to look at men and women
- 13:45in the space, what's going on there, what's that dynamic, what's going
- 13:48on with their families, what's going on with their children, and you'll address
- 13:50it. So yep, But anyway, reading colony, yeah seas to be
- 13:56I just want to say one last thing before we go. When that's say,
- 14:01the reason why I put this in this framework is I am one hundred
- 14:05percent sure that our society will collapse simply because of this narrative that men oppress
- 14:13women or even have the can manage to find the motivation to do it.
- 14:18Like it's theoretically possible. Theoretically, if you bioengineered men to take away that
- 14:24instinct to protect and provide for women, theoretically they could oppress women. That's
- 14:31a lot of bioengineering, you know, that's a lot of like alien intervention
- 14:35there. You know, theoretically it was aliens. Theoretically you know, I'm
- 14:41not saying it was aliens, but it was totally aliens. So it's like,
- 14:46what's really going to happen is that women are going to fear gasm themselves
- 14:52into destroying society. Well, that's already starting to happen, one on women
- 15:00one. And men are going to continue to try to protect and provide for
- 15:05women, and in the context of our society, that means protect and provide
- 15:09for women's rights, women's freedoms, you know, women's liberty, women's jobs,
- 15:13whatever else. They're going to continue to do that to the bitter end.
- 15:18And it will be women who destroyed their ability to do so mm hmm,
- 15:22it will not be men. And that's what this narrative that that's one
- 15:26of the other things that I don't like about this particular narrative of men oppressing
- 15:31women. It takes the responsibility off of women. Okay, and I just
- 15:35wanted to point that out. So let's let's, I guess begin the article.
- 15:39Since that's all right, let's get into this. So I was sent
- 15:41this, and the general what I suspect is that the thrust of the article
- 15:46is going to be something along the lines of, you know, well,
- 15:50I know feminism went too far, but the male backlash is going to make
- 15:54things worse. And if you, if you are a man and you react
- 15:56to this, then you're basically contributing to the diale, which makes things worse.
- 16:00So my backlash, I think I don't know. So let's see.
- 16:06We know it's the case that if you know their name, they're in the
- 16:10game, meaning that if the establishment media machine gives a great deal of coverage
- 16:15to an individual, whether positive or negative, it's because that individual is somehow
- 16:19involved in pushing the establishment agenda, and therefore the establishment wants you to know
- 16:25about them. Hence the phrase there's no such thing as bad publicity. If
- 16:29the establishment press doesn't want you to know about someone or something, it ignores
- 16:33it. I think that's a there's a lot of assumptions in that first fare
- 16:37paragraph, by the way, I mean like we got some coverage, but
- 16:41we weren't in on anything, right, I mean like Gamergate got a bunch
- 16:47of coverage. Were they in on it too? Yeah, I don't know.
- 16:51The thing is right, they we got coverage, but it was coverage
- 16:53that framed everything in a way that was completely distorted, right. Gamergate was
- 16:59just uh yeah, But like Menzishy's activism is distorted, Like it might be
- 17:06like a really hidden sect of people who are even more radical than us,
- 17:11Like and I don't mean radical is in like in any way a seeking something
- 17:15like in a way that that could be Oh okay, I don't mean it
- 17:18in like a destructive solution. I mean just radical in terms of what we're
- 17:23willing to conclude and what we're willing to say that we need to challenge,
- 17:27Like if there might be some more radical enclave, but I don't. Yeah,
- 17:33well point us to it. Well I'll yeah, maybe I'm just gonna
- 17:37say for my part anyway, you don't feel whatever you want about it.
- 17:41But this first paragraph is very, very speculative. It's just like, well,
- 17:45if somebody's big, it's because they're in on it. Like I don't.
- 17:47I don't buy that. I don't buy that once at face value,
- 17:51you'll have to prove it. I buy it a little. I think sometimes
- 17:53I think that the algorithm, and I've said this, the algorithm will promote
- 17:59people who so a different narrative, but sometimes those people don't know that they're
- 18:03part of that. Yeah, and I think you know well, But also
- 18:07like the algorithm will support something that is familiar to people, like the more
- 18:14radical you are, the more radical you're critique of society, Like if you
- 18:18fall into a camp where the ident like you have a group of people,
- 18:22like a substantial, already existing population of people that recognizes this particular group of
- 18:27people as the enemy. You know, you're gonna get more attention because that's
- 18:30familiar. Yeah, if you're doing a genuine critique of like the fundamental aspects
- 18:36of society, yet you're it's not familiar, people don't know where to slot
- 18:40it, and so they just reject it in a lot of ways. So,
- 18:42I mean, it's not even just the algorithm, is mean, it's
- 18:45the fact, it's just human nature. M h. You need things that
- 18:52are new, are not familiar, and they have sort of a repulsive quality
- 18:56to them. So it's it. You can you can appeal to this dynamic
- 19:02that he's talking about in the first paragraph without even having any kind of intention.
- 19:07But I I also agree with you, like sometimes everything can be followed
- 19:12off a cliff. How about that? Yeah, I'm just saying that,
- 19:17Like I feel like maybe you have to be like a subscriber to this person's
- 19:22substact to like, you know, get a sense of like a theme that
- 19:26where she talks often about the establishment. I don't know when somebody opens up
- 19:30by just saying, you know, like this, making this kind of claim
- 19:34I'm skeptical because I want to see what what are you going to drive?
- 19:37What are you going to drive this towards? You know that. That's why
- 19:41I don't know. I'm just I'm not buying it right off the bat.
- 19:44But let's see, it's not just the case for people though. It's also
- 19:48the case for cultural offerings in terms of TV shows, films, and particularly
- 19:52books. Thousands of excellent books are published every year, but for the most
- 19:56part, their authors toil away in obscurity. As the proverbial start serving artists
- 20:00very rarely acquiring anything remotely resembling fame or fortune. The vast majority of authors
- 20:07have to resort to self publishing and self publicizing, wholly ignored by the publishing
- 20:11houses odds, the odds of a submitted manuscript getting published are around one percent
- 20:15and totally dismissed by the media. Yeah, I agree with that because I've
- 20:19talked about elitism in the arts specifically and how that's changed things. But again,
- 20:25I don't know that that's necessarily to serve some cabal or anything, but
- 20:30I think it's just like an attitude. Therefore, when major newspapers published lengthy
- 20:34excerpts of new books, especially debut books from novice authors, we should pay
- 20:40attention. I wrote an article on this theme once before, regarding the debut
- 20:44book from first time young author Louise Perry, The Case Against the Sexual Revolution.
- 20:48Harry's tome enjoyed three lengthy excerpts in the Daily Mail and was trumpeted across
- 20:53the press, left wing and right wing alike as a seminal masterpiece. Right
- 20:57then, I thought, how does this play into the agenda? See?
- 21:00Like m so Louise Perry was known before she wrote this book? She wasn't.
- 21:07Wasn't she like a feminist activist, like kind of a bigger name?
- 21:11Or am I am I misremembering that? You know? Like Posey Parker was
- 21:18another one. I just want to say, Brian, you're asking me if
- 21:22somebody was famous. You're asking me to remember a name and recall something.
- 21:26Yeah, I know, I'm asking the I'm asking the audience. I like.
- 21:33I think what I'm saying is is that I don't think that Louise Perry
- 21:37is unknown. I'm saying that I think that so Louise Perry is like Parker,
- 21:42Posey Parker. I don't want to say Parker posy because I like her
- 21:45Posey Parker, who is the sort of turf you know, slash gender realist
- 21:52whatever you want to call it, that has been like you know, in
- 21:55the news or was she hasn't been lately, amongst others like Julie Bindle,
- 22:03I think is another one. So these are like feminist activists that have basically
- 22:07just gone against the trans agenda. And then Louise Perry is kind of taking
- 22:10it further in a way where she's like basically saying, you know what,
- 22:12the sexual revolution was a mistake or I think that's what her book is about.
- 22:17I'm not sure. And but what my point is is, I don't
- 22:21think she's unknown. I think that there's a bit of an assumption coming out
- 22:23of this. But maybe I'm wrong or I'm straw matting this person. I'm
- 22:27not sure. So anyway, yeah, right, then, oh go ahead.
- 22:36No, I just assume that it's you're fine to go continue, but
- 22:40yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna keep going. So I read
- 22:42it contribute as I can. Okay, all right, So I read it
- 22:45and drew my conclusions, which you can read about here. I'm not gonna
- 22:48open that. In short, the book has been promoted so heavily, because
- 22:52it was meant to be a key cog in the imminent social shift away from
- 22:56arch libertarianism towards its exist act opposite. Oh lo, arch liberalism, arch
- 23:03liberalism. Yeah, yeah, no, I've yeah, arch liberalism towards his
- 23:08exact opposite. Again, I don't know what arch liberalism means. But okay,
- 23:12so what Okay, they don't even know what freedom means. Right,
- 23:18Okay, let's keep going. Let's keep going, all right. So when
- 23:21a couple of days ago, the Daily Mail exerpted excerpted at length another debut
- 23:26book from a young, first time author about matters pertaining to the sexual Revolution,
- 23:30I knew immediately that this tone was meant to give us some major cultural
- 23:34cues about where we're going next. I purchased a kindle edition. I know,
- 23:40I know, but my rapidly deteriorating eyesight I sent. I spent some
- 23:44time the other day stroking one of my hats, mistaking it for a cat
- 23:47means back. Backlit screens are much easier to read, and I read it
- 23:49to day. Why do you tell me that I'm just I read that paragraph
- 23:53section for normalism. Yeah, I know, I'm getting that. I'm getting
- 23:56that. Okay, how do you mistake a hat for a cat? Like?
- 24:02Even I haven't made that mistake. I'm sad on a cat though,
- 24:04because sometimes they conceal themselves. Yeah. Not because it was particularly brilliant,
- 24:11although it is well written, but because it was so hideously transparently clear what
- 24:17it is going to be used for. Oh good lord, Okay, incoming
- 24:19the paranoia yep, oh god, Okay, here we go. The book
- 24:25entitled ten Men charts the year of casual sex of the author and then twenty
- 24:30five year old Kitty Ruskin, a survivor of a childhood sexual assault. Ruskin
- 24:34eschewed sex and relationships until the age of twenty two, and soon afterwards decided
- 24:38she quote needed to make up for lost time end quote by sleeping with as
- 24:42many men as possible, living in London and with an encyclopedic array of dating
- 24:48apps at her disposal array I'm sorry of dating apps at her disposal. I
- 24:52got one this time. Huh yeah. Yeah. She does not find it
- 24:56difficult to meet a multitude of suitors, but what she describes about her subsequent
- 25:02sexual encounters with them reads like the graphic descriptions of sexual abuse. Because that's
- 25:06what it is. Within her year of exploration, she is raped twice.
- 25:11Both times the men do not use protection, subjected to all sorts of non
- 25:15consensual brutality, including choking and slapping so hard it leaves marks, and on
- 25:19every occasion is ultimately left humiliated to humanize, and that she puts it discarded.
- 25:25It's a nauseating read and has little to distinguish it, despite the fact
- 25:30Ruskin is a middle class professional with degrees from a top university. From an
- 25:33account of trafficking or prostitution. In fact, it might be a little bit
- 25:37worse than prostitution, because at least prostitutes get paid, whereas Ruskin actually ends
- 25:42up paying for her hideous encounters, as she on multiple occasions requires the Morning
- 25:47After pill, on one such occasion, having recently been robbed, possibly by
- 25:52one of the men who raped her, Purchasing the Morning After pill pushes her
- 25:55bank account further into the red. Why does she not have control? Is
- 26:00this a true story or a fiction? I don't know who? Okay,
- 26:04who knows? Like all it is is just another paranoid screen. Yeah,
- 26:11I mean I don't know if Oh, it charts the year of casual sex,
- 26:14so you decided to be a salute and then you ranso some bad people.
- 26:18Maybe, I mean, none of this is provable, Like I don't,
- 26:22I don't know, Like what's the point of this? You know,
- 26:25it's to engender more paranoia essentially among women because we can't have enough of that.
- 26:32Like look, yeah, honestly, men are not bad, Like the
- 26:38vast majority of men are decent human beings who are going to treat you reasonably
- 26:42decently unless you turn out to be a dick or a cunt. Oh I
- 26:47can't say the S word, sorry, A a coot? Okay, okay,
- 26:53all right, So why are you doing this? Why are you going
- 26:59on an app for casual sex? Putting yourself out there to the people,
- 27:03to men who are only interested in that, Like, honestly, what are
- 27:10you doing? Yeah, what are you in putting into your life? You
- 27:15don't think men don't have these stories themselves. They do, like they do.
- 27:21For example, before the whole apps came about, there used to be
- 27:25this college hookup culture, right, and it was gross. People would take
- 27:30advantage men and women would take advantage of drunk individuals. Like I've seen stats
- 27:37from college aged women of the time and the behavior that they admitted to engaging
- 27:41in like I think something like ten nine to ten percent of them said they
- 27:45had used a weapon to get sex. You know, and this is women,
- 27:51right. There is a seedy, sordid, casual sex culture. And
- 27:56if you want to be part of it, fine, but it has with
- 28:00it these really bad actors, male and female, and you're gonna expose yourself
- 28:07to them. So if you don't want to, don't look for men or
- 28:11women who engage in this behavior. And believe me, they put it up
- 28:15front. They say they don't want relationships. Well, the vast majority of
- 28:21people who want to have sex without a relationship don't have your best interests in
- 28:26mind, male or female. I'm just gonna say that in my experience,
- 28:32they just they don't They don't want to care about you. That's why they
- 28:34want casual sex. Right, don't get into that culture. And if you
- 28:40get into that culture, it's your choice. You did not have to engage
- 28:42with these these these apps or this cult, the culture of hookups. Right,
- 28:49And the fact is that, Okay, what is the conclusion. Okay,
- 28:52let's we're going well, I mean what kind of well, yeah,
- 28:55let's let's I mean, I want to see where this goes because the story
- 28:57is not the important part of this. I think there's a point being made.
- 29:03We'll get to it in a second. So okay, So let me
- 29:08see. She proceeds to have a bad reaction to the emergency contraception, bleeding
- 29:14so profusely she nearly passes out and is on the brink of requiring hopitalization.
- 29:18Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know. After pill perhaps,
- 29:22I don't know. I mean, I don't think the morning after pill.
- 29:26I think there are complications with it. I don't know what they are.
- 29:29No, the morning after pill is to bring on a period, like,
- 29:33oh, so you are supposed to prevent to prevent implantation and bring on
- 29:38a period. That's it. That's all it does. You're not having a
- 29:41miscarriage with a morning after pill. What the hell is the if? She
- 29:45was bleeding so hard, bleeding so profusely, she nearly passes out into the
- 29:52brink. Also, you have to realize that a lot of this stuff is
- 29:56just hysterical, like it's exactly well, it does sound it sounds like it.
- 30:02Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to I want to see what the
- 30:04pup. Let me just good mourning. Let me, just let me just
- 30:08keep reading. I felt really deeply uncomfortable reading this book, not just because
- 30:15of the explicit sexual violence and all round degradation described, but because I could
- 30:18not shake the increasing feeling this is just compounding her exploitation. So why she
- 30:25write the book? Though? Did men make her do it? Here we
- 30:27have a still young, she's only turned thirty, deeply traumatized rape and sexual
- 30:32abuse survivor who is suffering a range of mental health problems including PTSD, anxiety,
- 30:37depression, and I strongly suspect substance abuse, platforming her trauma in forensic
- 30:41and graphic detail to the entire world. The book is the kind of deeply
- 30:45personal Catharsis a trauma survivor might disclose to a seasoned, trusted therapist. She
- 30:49has one, and is also on antidepressants, not the entirety of the world's
- 30:55media and cruel, unforgiving general public. She's using her real name and real
- 31:00face, and everyone who knows or will ever know her can read it.
- 31:03She will never be able to escape it or put it behind her, and
- 31:06when she's older and less acutely consumed with trauma, she might well want to
- 31:10do just that. The book reminded me a lot. Oh go ahead times,
- 31:14do you engage with something and get raped and then just go back to
- 31:18it, Like I mean, I don't even want to eat something if it
- 31:26made me nauseous and made me vomit. You know, it's like, yeah,
- 31:30that is you never want to touch it again. Yeah, but no,
- 31:33But do you have no sense of self preservation? Well, I don't
- 31:38know if that's the point, I think because I think she's I think she's
- 31:44still building to something else. I'm expecting something else because remember it's in response
- 31:49to my post about like how if men just decided, you know, if
- 31:55they were to just decide one day to oppress women, it would just be
- 31:59done. Like they don't even have to physically like use force. They could
- 32:05just all quit. They could just all quit their jobs and that would be
- 32:07it. Like women would be powerless, you know, And of course they
- 32:10wouldn't know. I know they wouldn't do it. I know they wouldn't,
- 32:14But I'm saying they can. Yet they don't. So the narrative that they're
- 32:17that they're in dangerous to women is ridiculous on its face, because men would
- 32:22never do that. Something has to has to break in all of this.
- 32:27Yeah, because the thing is that you either have to recognize that men are
- 32:30just not motivated to do it, or you have to recognize that women have
- 32:35a power that they are not taking responsibility for. Yeah. Yeah, and
- 32:40in this case, it the like I said, they're going to fear gasm
- 32:45art civilization to death. This to me reads like, if this is genuine,
- 32:53why should people care about her self preservation more than she does? Anyway?
- 33:00Right? Continue, all right? The book reminded me a lot of
- 33:05the infamous twenty ten Duke Sex Thesis, a graphic account written by then twenty
- 33:08two year old student Karen Owen about the men she had casual sex with at
- 33:14Duke University. These men treated her in a very similar manner to that depicted
- 33:19in Ruskin's book. Owen, however, never meant her thesis to go public,
- 33:22and when it did, with the attended huge controversy and backlash, she,
- 33:27recognizing the catastrophic effects it could have on her personal and professional future,
- 33:31changed her name and disappeared from public view. Can I just get in on
- 33:35this because I was here for that. I just wanted to finish the paragraph.
- 33:37Go ahead, Yeah, Okay, it was more the Duke sex thesis
- 33:44ranked men on you know, incredibly shallow, objectifying well what feminist would term
- 33:52objectifying standards. In other words, these men had no standard, no worse
- 33:57in her life aside from use as a sexual means to get off. I
- 34:04don't want to point that out, first of all. And the way that
- 34:06she ranked them horrified people because she ranked them in terms of, you know,
- 34:12like genital size. I believe looks and a willingness to engage in sexual
- 34:19aggression that she enjoyed, right, you know, And I would honestly say
- 34:25to men, don't don't even play that game because it's too dangerous. But
- 34:29she liked being choked, she liked being slapped, she liked being taken while
- 34:31she was incapable of saying no. And she openly expressed this. This that
- 34:37she sought this out right, she openly expressed it, because this is this
- 34:43is the kind of behavior people who engage in the really sordid aspects of the
- 34:49hookup culture. Not only do they seek out this kind of disregard from their
- 34:57sexual partners, they engage in it themselves. One of the articles that I
- 35:01wrote way back when they got a lot of traffic and offended a lot of
- 35:05people. Is when I said that feminists will not get women to confess to
- 35:10all of the sexual abuse they experienced, because that would mean recognizing all of
- 35:15the sexual abuse that they engage in as sexual abuse. And this really relates
- 35:21to the hookup culture. This is a group of people who are disregarding other
- 35:25people's sexual boundaries, and for whatever reason, they engage in this culture because
- 35:30they enjoy it, and they also engage in perpetuating it on other people.
- 35:36And that's the problem with the women who are in part of this culture are
- 35:38also engaging in this behavior, right They're also finding men who are incapable of
- 35:45saying no because they're too drunk or drugged, or they use a frickin weapon
- 35:52and they they they rape them. Let's let's just put it right out there.
- 35:57The women in this culture are engaging in this kind of cyprocal abusive sexual
- 36:00behavior, and nobody wants to talk about it, honestly, because nobody wants
- 36:05to include the female half of this. That women are seeking out this behavior
- 36:08from men and they're also engaging in it towards men. Okay, I just
- 36:15wanted to point that out there because that's what Karen Owen Duke sex thesis was
- 36:20illustrating. She wanted this kind of behavior, she sought it out, and
- 36:25she was a willing participant. Mm hmm, okay, all right. So
- 36:32Ruskin, however, has intentionally submitted this tone to the public. And while
- 36:37she says she quote knows she's going to get a lot of hate end quote,
- 36:40I don't think she's remotely prepared for the extent of it. Because of
- 36:45the way she concluded the book. I think her book is essentially really thinks
- 36:49what we're saying is hate. Honestly, Yeah, I'm sure her book is
- 36:52essentially an excruciatingly acute example of exactly what the aforementioned Louise Perry's book is railing
- 36:58against the pornifide sex culture, which endangers young women and completely warps their attitudes
- 37:04to relationships and sex. So it doesn't do it. So it doesn't do
- 37:07anything. Yeah, it does nothing to men. Men are just acting natural,
- 37:10They're just being what they are. Yeah, yeah, this is absolute
- 37:14bullshit, Like this is this is something that also harms men. I know
- 37:17men will talk about many men will say, oh, but it's not the
- 37:21same. Well, yeah, you're right, because it seems to be that
- 37:23men actually have a worse reaction to it. I'm gonna put it out there
- 37:29like the actual. Like if you say to a man who accidentally gets into
- 37:34this hookup culture and gets punked out by a woman, if you ask him,
- 37:37oh, was that something that really damaged you? He probably would say
- 37:40no. And you say ask the same thing of a woman and she say,
- 37:44oh, yes, it was deeply damaging. And then you look at
- 37:46their behavior. The man is more likely to engage in substance abuse. He's
- 37:50more likely to have problems with relationships. He's more likely to drop out of
- 37:53school or be failed to be able to keep a job. He's more likely
- 37:58to have sexual dysfunction, that is, either he can't get it up or
- 38:01he becomes promiscuous. All right, He's more likely to end up homeless.
- 38:07He's more likely to end up, like I think I said, with a
- 38:10drug addiction. Well, i'll repeat that, with a drug addiction. Right,
- 38:14he's more likely to drop out of society. Okay, When you look
- 38:17at the concrete effects of this on men, it's worse. So a man
- 38:22will say no, I'm okay, but then in his behavior you see that
- 38:27he isn't all right. So it is it is the same. It is
- 38:30a problem for both men and women. And we another thing that's radical,
- 38:36like us. Radicals are willing to acknowledge even individuals like this who talk about
- 38:39how, oh I'm discriminated against by the algorithm. They won't acknowledge this.
- 38:45All right, this is a reciprocal behavior. It's equally bad for men.
- 38:50This is damaging. You know. Sucking men into this lifestyle is not good
- 38:54for them. It is not the natural behavior apparently. I mean, if
- 38:59it was, it would be having such dysfunction. Okay, Well, she
- 39:04does continue, and it does get a little interesting, So I read ahead
- 39:08a little bit rather than conclude there might be something wrong with this culture.
- 39:13However, Ruskin concludes that just as indeed Perry does, that there's something wrong
- 39:17with men. Because Ruskin unbelievably declares, I had to reread this sentence several
- 39:22times and make sure I got it right. Quote. You shouldn't have to
- 39:24get ana guy before having sex with him. End quote. That's the extent
- 39:30of the trauma and indoctrination she's still under. After everything she's been through,
- 39:35she still believes that to be as physically intimate as it is possible to be
- 39:38with another person and to be in a situation where you are inevitably hugely vulnerable,
- 39:45you shouldn't have to get to know the person first. This would be
- 39:47a stupid enough thing for a man to say. There are plenty of crazed
- 39:51women out there who could turn nasty on you in all sorts of ways.
- 39:53For a woman, it is delusional to the point of psychosis. The vast,
- 39:58vast majority of violent criminals are men, and the only way to have
- 40:00a robust chance of discerning whether a handsome stranger in a bar is such a
- 40:06man is to get to know him first. Of course, men, one
- 40:09knows, can still be abusive, but if you take the time to get
- 40:14to know someone before becoming intimate, you've got a much thirtier chance of spotting
- 40:17red flags and calling it quits, rather than going home with him drunk for
- 40:21the first time you meet him and discovering then that he's a violent rapist.
- 40:25Okay, I got to get in on this, all right, Okay,
- 40:30there's plenty of crazy women out there who could turn nasty on you in all
- 40:32sorts of ways. Almost ten percent of women said that they had used a
- 40:37weapon to get sex, so it's not a small number. You know.
- 40:43And again, when this happens, I think guides men are side swiped by
- 40:47the actual negative emotional reactions that they have to this. We are as a
- 40:52species. One of the most fundamental aspects of our psychology is based on the
- 40:58idea of sexual consent. And why is that because that is what drives our
- 41:02understanding of the other and sexual desire and being desirable like that. That is
- 41:08the source of all of these abstractions we see floating around, is the fact
- 41:13that we can look, we have a sexual response to being desirable, or
- 41:19even a positive socials response to being socially desirable. That's what drives our theory
- 41:22of mind. So when you have that violated, that essential aspect of being
- 41:30human and being respected as a human, it doesn't matter if you're a man
- 41:32or a woman, it is going to cause problems. So this is first
- 41:38nonsense. Men are vulnerable to this as well, okay, just like women,
- 41:44And if we want to have a society worthy of the stars, we
- 41:46need to recognize that because otherwise we're never going to get over these dark aspects
- 41:51of our psychology. All right, The vast majority of violent criminals are men,
- 41:54and most of them are aggressing against other men, and the ones who
- 41:59aren't are actually, you know, female criminals who draw their victims among their
- 42:05intimate partners pretty close in number to men who do the same. Right.
- 42:10Once, once you once you remove violence against the stranger, women start to
- 42:16the the proportion of female criminals do that are much higher. Okay, So
- 42:22yeah, that's that's that's a pretty trivial. It's not. It's not,
- 42:24it's not. The other thing is that there is a subtlety to all of
- 42:29this. This woman is presenting all of this because she wants to prove that
- 42:35the world owes her to be able to have sex with any man and not
- 42:37have him turned sour on her. Right, the world owes that to her
- 42:43because she thinks men can do that with women. And and first of all,
- 42:47it's based on a perception that's wrong. Men can't do that with women,
- 42:52right. Men experience these negative sexual being right, being forced, all
- 42:59of this stuff. They experience it too. So there's no there's no male
- 43:04utopia that exists along alongside of female dystopia in which men can just select any
- 43:09woman at any time and be completely assured that nothing is going to go wrong.
- 43:14Are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? That is so
- 43:17total bullshit. But she's going to use the fact that she thinks that can
- 43:23have casual sex and women can't to prove that the world owes her a universe
- 43:29in which she's completely protected by any bad actors, even though she's inviting them
- 43:34into the most intimate scenario in her life. And you see what I'm saying.
- 43:39This person is completely unequipped to actually oppose that, because the way that
- 43:44you oppose that is to say, men run the same risks. Dear,
- 43:47there is no equality, but you had here. There is no equality to
- 43:52be had here. You cannot expect a society to give you a situation where
- 43:58you can have casual sex with whomever you want and never have a negative experience.
- 44:02Society does not work like that, and men don't have that, so
- 44:07you're not entitled to it. Because this is how they make themselves entitled to
- 44:10things. They say, well, men get it, you can't say,
- 44:15well, actually no, men don't get that. They don't get it,
- 44:22all right, keep the life free of fear, Okay, keep going,
- 44:24No they don't. They just have to wing what yeah, suck it up.
- 44:30One of the first things we're taught as children is, don't trust strangers,
- 44:32and they don't become anymore and they don't become any more trustworthy just because
- 44:37we're a bit older. You can only trust someone you know. You don't
- 44:40know someone you've only spent a drunken couple of hours in a bar with,
- 44:45or go it's not safe to become intimate with them. So yes, you
- 44:49should have to get to know a guy or a girl before you sleep with
- 44:51them. Absolutely, And what you should say is that men also need to
- 44:55do this, not just women. Continue Brian. Yeah, Therefore, that
- 45:00this is the conclusion of this book that you shouldn't makes it very clear to
- 45:04me that this author is being used and exploited yet again, just as she
- 45:07has been so many times by the publishing industry and media machine to push an
- 45:12agenda. Wait, so she couldn't have chosen to do that, like like
- 45:17this has to be's They want to appeal to an ideal of women that they're
- 45:22utterly incapable of making their own choices. But then they don't realize that necessitates
- 45:28giving somebody who is capable making women's choices for them, Like she chose this,
- 45:32she is not a victim, Like, yeah, the reaction to this
- 45:40book, and believe me, the publishing houses know this is going to be
- 45:45utter horror and revulsion from more conservative quarters, using it as a stark example
- 45:50of just how depraved modern culture has become and how irreplably, irreparably damaged its
- 45:57young women. Now I agree with the assessment in a lot of ways.
- 46:00This book from Ruskin is an anguished howl of agony depicting just how bad things
- 46:06have become. But the point is, what's it going to be used to
- 46:09facilitate? Okay, man, this is really aggravating. I'm going to I
- 46:16want you to look at something. I'm going to try to find it.
- 46:20I mean, you can continue to read while I try to find it.
- 46:22That might be the best way to go. All right. I really think
- 46:25people need to see this and think about this because part of the problem is
- 46:30this asymmetric like people are pretending that women and it is pretending at this point,
- 46:36because we've known this for a while, and if you don't look at
- 46:37the statistics on women sexually aggressing against men, you've chosen not to look at
- 46:43them and not to actually be open to what they are saying. Right,
- 46:47But it's like, yeah, just keep going. I'm going to try to
- 46:52find this although she doesn't go ahead, it's all right, although she doesn't
- 46:57realize it because you know, women don't know what they're doing when they do.
- 47:00Of what Ruskin has done is produce robust justification for our culture returning to
- 47:05archaic attitudes to women, where just as it is in Islamic countries, they
- 47:08have their opportunities and freedoms dramatically diminished because the alternative is that they turn into
- 47:15mentally illhores. That's what extremists Islamic regimes think, and unfortunately Ruskin's book rather
- 47:21ratifies that philosophy. Okay, but the thing is, okay, first of
- 47:24all, extremist Islamic regimes okay, yeah, well, theocracies are terrible for
- 47:31everyone, and men are restricted in them too. I don't know if you've
- 47:34noticed that men get stilled to death for having the wrong haircut. Okay,
- 47:39So well we have to make a comparison to I guess what the West is
- 47:50turning into. Well, you know, if you live in the UK,
- 47:52it is turning into that. But not because of the men that were native
- 47:55to that country so or the people, rather because you know, the biggest
- 48:00supporters of these Islamic Sharia law type of deals are other women, right,
- 48:06you know that they are a big part of that. Yes, but they
- 48:09get to control other women. Yeah, that's that's a huge if feminism really
- 48:14is about controlling other women, being able to judge women's behavior and say,
- 48:19well, you have to do this, you have to it's taking away women's
- 48:22choices. Ironically, feminism takes away women's choices. There's a there's a I
- 48:28think there's like a deliciousness that women have. They like to do that.
- 48:31They like to take away women's choices. Not just say hey, this is
- 48:36self destructive, or maybe you should you shouldn't be engaging in behavior that's destructive
- 48:40towards it, towards yourself or others. No, they like to take away
- 48:44women's other women's choices, their choice of I don't know what they want to
- 48:47do with their life, whether they want to have children, whether they want
- 48:51to have a career. Although that's less now, you know, they want
- 48:52to be able to judge all this shit. They want to stand in judgment
- 48:57of other women and force their choices. And you know that's as true in
- 49:01our culture as it is in Islamic cultures. Like a lot of honor killings
- 49:07are driven by women. Women are the ones who initiate it, who say
- 49:13I don't like what this other woman is doing. Men will enact them,
- 49:16but they're initiated by women. The women will say that they these other women
- 49:21are fundamentally violating some aspect of the social the social contract. And you see
- 49:28it in in currently with with even with feminist men and women. Yeah,
- 49:32for some reason, it's open season on women who aren't feminists. And in
- 49:37a world where death was a lot more prevalent and life is cheap, I
- 49:42could seriously see feminist women declaring jihad against pigmies and feminist men, you know,
- 49:50getting out the machetes and doing some some head choppings. Mm hmm.
- 49:54Like it's it's it's just the same freaking dynamic. Because when when you say
- 50:00a woman is a threat to other women, which is really what honor killings
- 50:02are doing, there's a woman saying this woman is a threat to our virtue,
- 50:07our chastity, are our way of being, she's a threat to other
- 50:10women. Suddenly she loses all of her protections as a woman. Notice that
- 50:16it's just like as soon as they say this woman is a threat to other
- 50:20women. Suddenly she's open for all kinds of abuse, incredibly nasty abuse too.
- 50:27Mm hmm. You know, I think we're about to see her hand
- 50:30in a little bit here. I just want to tell you, sorry,
- 50:32what our hand is. Okay. So, the worst stereotypes about what feminism
- 50:39has done to women are typified in this book, which telling Thee Ruskin admits
- 50:44was inspired by binge watching Hideous indoctrinating tool. Sex and the City. Stereotypes
- 50:51about what feminism has done to women are there stereotypes if it's true, as
- 50:55Ruskin details, Sex and the City glamorizes casual sex and makes it seem infinitely
- 51:00cool and aspirational. Ruskin's favorite character was the man eating Samantha. It is
- 51:06of note, I never watched the show, so I don't know. I
- 51:07think that's is that Kim Cattrall's Kim Control's character. I think that's every woman's
- 51:13favorite character is Kim Control's character. She's like the well man eating Samantha.
- 51:17That is to say, you know, a woman who basically like lived to
- 51:22only satisfy herself sexually and discarded men casually all the time. And that was
- 51:28some aspirational shit because that was what the writers of that show fought men did,
- 51:35and what they did not realize is that very few men are that way.
- 51:37But of course those are the only men that can see. So that's
- 51:40just how it is. Yes, Kim Control's somebody sayeah, I knew it,
- 51:44I knew it all right. Anyway, the nature of this and this
- 51:46entire entire entitlement narrative. Man, Yeah, away with it, so women
- 51:50should, even though men never did. Yeah, even though very small percentage
- 51:53of men actually do, and most of them just and even small ye get
- 51:59away with it. Yeah, exactly. It is a note to consider that
- 52:04Sex and the City was not initially scripted to be about four women. It
- 52:07was initially intended to be about four gay men. Not its creator is a
- 52:10gay man, But producers decided audiences weren't ready for that yet, so change
- 52:14the characters to women. I mean, it would have been way less popular
- 52:16if it was about four gay men. Well. I don't think casual sex
- 52:21is psychologically good for anyone. It is nevertheless a biological fact that men are
- 52:24far better equipped to handle it than women. So a television show about four
- 52:29wealthy gay men having a lot of sex with strangers and not seeming too negatively
- 52:31affected by it might have been more plausible. It's not. It like,
- 52:36where is there a biological fact that men are far more equipped? Like where
- 52:38is the study? Like where is the act? I mean people say this
- 52:43is it true, like we are we are para bonders. Okay, this
- 52:50is like we are insanely para bonding. I mean, people don't and we
- 52:54want to argue this fact. It is not. It's not arguable like biologists,
- 53:00this is not something that is contentious about our species. And for example,
- 53:07saying that there is a certain percentage of children that aren't the genetic offspring
- 53:13of their father, well, if you look at another pair bonding species like
- 53:16beavers, only thirty percent of the offspring are actually the offspring of the father,
- 53:22the social father that's taking care of them. Like, we have actually
- 53:27a very high genetic monogamy. There's genetic monogamy, there's sexual monogamy and their
- 53:31social monogamy. And humans have a very high genetic monogamy compared to other pair
- 53:37bonding mammals. And so it doesn't like showing that people cheat doesn't mean we
- 53:42don't pair bond like I mean, at that point, if you want to
- 53:46make that the criteria, then there's no pair bonding at all in all species,
- 53:52including birds. Like humans pair bond and when men could divorce more easily
- 54:05than women, divorce was at like one percent one percent. Maybe you can
- 54:14argue that men have a predilection towards sowing their seed and flandering, But then
- 54:17again, you could argue that women have a prediliction to cuckoldry. Does that
- 54:22mean we're not pair bonders? Right? You know? Does that mean that
- 54:27does that's not destructive behavior? But anyway, I mean, like maybe maybe
- 54:31they're right, Maybe they're right that promiscuous men are are not damaged and the
- 54:38way that promiscuous women are. Or maybe it's because promiscue. When men marry,
- 54:44they can't get out of it like when women. If a promiscuous woman
- 54:47wants to leave a relationship a marriage, it's fairly easy. If a promiscuous
- 54:52man does, it's fairly difficult. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,
- 54:58I cast out on this. Of course, Well comment will be like no
- 55:00alence, and you're wrong. I think that gay men are uniquely more promiscuous
- 55:06than stresses, But then again, they're also uniquely more able to keep their
- 55:09relationships intact. Well, that's true when they have them. Well, that's
- 55:14because I mean, maybe it's because both like in a coupling, they're they're
- 55:17both more okay with you know, I don't know, sharing dudes and going
- 55:22to Org's or whatever whatever it is gay dudes do. Like they're they're probably
- 55:27just more casual with it generally, but that's also like why they're they're perhaps
- 55:31less possessive, and that's why there's probably fewer problems. So I think that
- 55:37it you know, if it was a gay man in Hollywood writing a story
- 55:40about this, he's probably writing about himself and that's why it was you know,
- 55:45and they probably said, well, if you put women in it,
- 55:46it'll make more money, which it probably did, you know, because it
- 55:51was like very very very popular with women. Men didn't watch it, really,
- 55:55I mean unless you had to, like your girl made you watch it.
- 55:59But if you're her girlfriend was watching sex in the city, you probably
- 56:01shouldn't be dating her. That's a red flag as far as I'm concerned.
- 56:05Anyway, Let's see, instead, devious social engineers had women acting out this
- 56:12wildly unrealistic scenario, knowing sorry eyed young girls would simply copy it. Just
- 56:15as Ruskin says she did, This is not a new tactic either. The
- 56:20biography of former Cosmopolitan staff writer Sue Ellen Browder details how when she worked for
- 56:25the magazine in the nineteen sixties, she would be told to write case studies
- 56:30about glamorous, single young women sleeping around with powerful men to advance their careers.
- 56:35None of the case studies she wrote were true, but shadowy individuals she
- 56:38describes as higher ups told her to write them as if they were knowing that
- 56:43impressionable young women would read them and copy them. Okay, yeah, sure,
- 56:46I mean, but they still chose to do it, like yep,
- 56:51you know, like what you could have also just said, no, I'm
- 56:53not doing that, Like what I don't What are you getting at? Are
- 56:58you trying to convince me that like they're these this the establishment has this like
- 57:02power over women that they can't resist, and they're doing it on purpose that
- 57:07women need a guardian, Yeah, the decisions for them, right, this
- 57:12is what you're doing. All right, Well, let's let's keep going.
- 57:15That's how the sexual revolution was mainstreamed. Social engineers putting out fake and distorted
- 57:20accounts, including things like the Kinsey Report that was a feminist thing well,
- 57:24alleging that most of the populace were already having plenty of debauched, adulterous,
- 57:29promiscuous sex, so you might as well get in on the action too.
- 57:34Uh. That was all. That was all part of the whole, like
- 57:37queer theory. Kinsey he was the guy who created the Kinsey scale, you
- 57:40know, like what was his name, John Money. It was all the
- 57:44same, same shit. But like that one woman that we looked at earlier,
- 57:49it was like a little while ago. She tried to deny that they
- 57:51were feminists because they were sexologists or something, but they totally were. It
- 57:54was like the same shit, you know. They were celebrated by feminists written
- 57:58about I. Feminists that I know that I've known anyway have told me about
- 58:02the Kinsey scale. Like there was a girl I went to school with.
- 58:06Her name was Kinsey, and she was like I was named after it,
- 58:07and she was a super hardcore feminist. She's probably miserable right now, by
- 58:12the way. Anyway, In fact, they weren't, and it was only
- 58:17after sexual attitudes were resculpted by subversive forces like the Cosmotolic magazine and the Kindsey
- 58:23Report that sexual behavior has radically changed, and what might have looked like exciting
- 58:28liberation in the nineteen sixties two generations later looks like anything but. Eddy Ruskin,
- 58:32for example, looks like what she is, a sad, broken,
- 58:35mentally ill abuse victim. As well as her litany of mental health diagnoses.
- 58:39She admits that having long term suicidal ideation. Okay, I just want to
- 58:46get in on that. Okay, all right, so she has Okay,
- 58:52first of all, this is not what's happening. People are having less sex,
- 58:58you know this current general. Yeah, yeah, this is like nobody's
- 59:01really like less and less people are having sex. So you know that the
- 59:07cook up culture will be starved out because everybody is going to turn into you
- 59:12know, the mouse utopia, the beautiful ones. They're just going to be
- 59:15living some complete isolation with no social contact whatsoever, which I'm sure will be
- 59:21even better than this destructiveness. Okay, let's let's see, all right,
- 59:27I got a super cha, I got a super chat. I'm gonna read
- 59:29it really quick. Seventy seventies are from Duncan Alexander, and he says,
- 59:34I believe gay relationships may have less problems staying together because they don't have to
- 59:37worry about babies, but lesbian relationships also don't result in babies, and they
- 59:43have more problems. But yeah, I take your I take your meaning.
- 59:45Yeah, oh I should probably do the things. Okay, So everybody,
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- 1:00:12Hump Day usually is guess what day it is? Yeah, it's to do
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- 1:00:23this is for hump day. Okay, yeah, well all right, let's
- 1:00:29keep going. I couldn't help. But notice as well that her father gets
- 1:00:32no mention in the book. Her mother gets a cursory one liner, which
- 1:00:36speaks volumes. Daddy issues have become such a cultural cliche for a reason because
- 1:00:40so many young women suffer from them, Girls who grow up not feeling loved
- 1:00:44by their father's typically crave male validation, and that craving becomes sexualized at puberty,
- 1:00:49so they often start seeking it out from unsuitable men, men who will
- 1:00:52treat them badly and thus reinforce the sense of worthlessness they already feel. Funny,
- 1:00:55you mentioned that women suffer from the not grow up not feeling loved by
- 1:01:00their fathers. What about women who are girls who are just not allowed to
- 1:01:06know their father? Yeah? Does that have? Is that? I mean,
- 1:01:08I think that that's probably a bigger problem, honestly, and I don't
- 1:01:14see that in this Maybe she'll say it later, but I'm not seeing anything
- 1:01:16about like fathers that are not allowed to be to know their children, to
- 1:01:22be around their children, to raise their children, hell, to even know
- 1:01:24that their children exist, or they only know their father as a paycheck that
- 1:01:29comes, you know, once a month. Well, what I'm really interested
- 1:01:32in is what she thinks the solution is. Because she basnically said that she
- 1:01:37can't hold women responsible for their choices. Yeah, well let's see. Yeah,
- 1:01:42I don't know anything about ruskins biological biographical details beyond the fact that she
- 1:01:46was sexually assaulted at age ten by another ten year old, But I strongly
- 1:01:51suspect her parents separated when she was young, and her relationship with her father
- 1:01:53subsequently deteriorated. All of this makes the book prime fodder for conservative cultural critics
- 1:02:00to leap on and uses evidence that we need to dramatically clamp down on liberal
- 1:02:04social trends such as family breakdown and sexual liberation, because look what happens when
- 1:02:08we don't. But what shape will the clamp down take? Okay? So
- 1:02:14are you saying that being critical like I have the liberal social trends such as
- 1:02:17family breakdown and sexual liberation? So are you admitting that a liberal social trend
- 1:02:23is breaking the family because that does cause problems? Are you admitting to that?
- 1:02:30Like, like, I mean, yeah, that's a weird That's a
- 1:02:32weird thing to pin on there, I'm gonna pin. I'm gonna pin a
- 1:02:37family breakdown on liberal social trends. Okay, weird flex, Well, what
- 1:02:44shape will the clamp down take? Look at the Handmaid's Tale made into such
- 1:02:46a prominent cultural talking point for a reason. At the pre Gilead beginning,
- 1:02:52when the cool young conservative activists go around the college promoting their ideas, they
- 1:02:55present them entirely moderately and reasonably. They merely want to them damaging liberal excesses
- 1:03:00and reinstall some common sense moderation. They claim they get a lot of support
- 1:03:06for this from people damaged by these excesses. Yet once they're successfully in power,
- 1:03:12any pretense that moderation goes right out the window. Women all become house
- 1:03:15prisoners entirely at the mercy of male authority, and are stripped of even the
- 1:03:21most basic rights just as they live in certain regimes today, such as Iran,
- 1:03:25a country the West just happens to be gearing up for a world war
- 1:03:29with and which Iran and its allies would certainly win. Okay, Also,
- 1:03:35I think I think we've we've talked about Iran probably overstated the idea of oppression.
- 1:03:44I know that's that's a forbidden thing to say. Yeah, but you
- 1:03:50really, people, this is the usual way that they frame the enemy.
- 1:03:54The enemy harms their women because that justifies you know, like, because I
- 1:04:01don't know country X, the men of country X harms their women. Because
- 1:04:06of that, we can drop a nuke and kill them all. That's that.
- 1:04:14That's how it works. At any time that you say this about a
- 1:04:18group of people or a country, or you are justifying violence against them.
- 1:04:24So this is the playbook. Like when we're starting to go to war with
- 1:04:28anyone, we start to emphasize how they don't take care of their women,
- 1:04:30right. We notice that has even happened to Russia, you know, everybody
- 1:04:35we go to war with, doesn't we suddenly start saying, well, they
- 1:04:41have poor track record on women's rights. Oh they hate and harm their women.
- 1:04:45And we're just doing this with Iran, you know, without really looking
- 1:04:49at it very closely. And what's interesting is that all of the pro the
- 1:04:54protests, the student protests, you'll notice that men are dying more in the
- 1:05:00name of women's freedom, which is really interesting if you think about it.
- 1:05:04But what I wanted to say about the Handmaiden's Tale, it's absolutely ridiculous.
- 1:05:10He is the stupidest crap. First of all, what Christian denomination, what
- 1:05:17group of Christians ever would consider what happened in the Handmaiden's Tale anything but adultery
- 1:05:28that is against God? Okay, like that is adultery. Especially in the
- 1:05:34Catholic Church. You're not supposed to remarry when when you become widowed or become
- 1:05:41a widower like that, that is considered to be adultery. Who the hell
- 1:05:45thinks that they would be behind this? So for some reason, these college
- 1:05:49Christians going around selling conservative values and then they morphed into Islamists, Like does
- 1:05:57that? And also the the whole biblical thing that The Handmaiden's Tale is based
- 1:06:02on was about the sexual exploitation of a man, Jacob. He was tricked
- 1:06:11into having sex with his first wife by they got him drunk and then basically
- 1:06:16sprung her on him. Right, who knows what happened. Maybe he was
- 1:06:20too drunk to resist. He's certainly too drunk to realize who he was having
- 1:06:25sex with. And that's how her father, and no doubt her because I
- 1:06:29don't see how she could possibly not have been in the know with all of
- 1:06:33this, got him to marry the daughter he didn't want. And then subsequently
- 1:06:40we go through a whole bunch of almost really black humor scenes of sexual exploitation
- 1:06:46of Jacob, like he gets extorted for sex because one of his wives says,
- 1:06:53if you don't have sex with me, I'm gonna kill myself, all
- 1:06:56right, And then he gets sold for a mandrake root, you know.
- 1:07:00And it's dark, it's some dark crowd, it's some pretty black humor shit,
- 1:07:03and so all of this sexual exploitation of this dude, and yes,
- 1:07:06there were the handmaidens involved too, and it wasn't really clear if they said
- 1:07:12yes or no. It was certainly clear that Jacob was saying no a lot
- 1:07:15of the time. And Margaret Hatwood, being the ir feminist she is,
- 1:07:23took a story that was about the sexual exploitation of a man and turned it
- 1:07:28into the handmaiden's tail. Are you fucking kidding me? And now we have
- 1:07:33to contend with this paranoid nonsense influencing the thoughts of generations of women into a
- 1:07:42hysteria that is going to destroy the very thing that's giving them the freedoms that
- 1:07:46they are afraid of losing. Right and furthermore, women, we should get
- 1:07:53to the end in so I just have to put and then they take it.
- 1:07:59And the problem is they take this story and they say that it's saying
- 1:08:02something about Christians, or it's saying something about beautiful times, or it's saying
- 1:08:09something about society. Okay, yeah, I have taken a story about the
- 1:08:13sexual exploitation of men turned it into saying something about how society doesn't care about
- 1:08:17the ex sexual exploitation of women. How do you freaking do that? And
- 1:08:21then you've constructed an entire movement of paranoia around this nonsense. Oh all right,
- 1:08:30let's uh, let's read some more. Okay, Yet, once they're
- 1:08:34successfully in power, any pretense that moderation goes right out the window. Women
- 1:08:40all become house prisoners entirely at the mercy have already read that part. So
- 1:08:44taking this in the taken in this wider context, one can see that Ruskin's
- 1:08:47book is a strategic clarian call for revolutionary change. The call doesn't come from
- 1:08:55her, as I say, She's just being used and abuse yet again to
- 1:08:58fulfill a wider agenda she has no concept of. The call comes from high
- 1:09:03levels. Yeah, go ahead, finish the paragraph. The call comes from
- 1:09:09high level social engineers who, when they saw this manuscript, realized this was
- 1:09:13the perfect vehicle to unequivocally demonstrate just how sordid and debase the West has become,
- 1:09:19and that we desperately need drastic change. And I'm not saying we don't,
- 1:09:24but not the changes they have in mind, and which an imminent world
- 1:09:28war could very well bring in. I wrote more about that here. So
- 1:09:32she's saying that a world war will do this well. Probably should have voted
- 1:09:35for the other guy. You can easily tell that they are using Ruskin as
- 1:09:40fodder to fulfill an agenda by the way they present her in publicity photos.
- 1:09:45Her. She, her, She is in a bikini. Her she,
- 1:09:49I guess they mean to say, she is in a bikini. Here,
- 1:09:53she is in Oh. Here she is in a bikini. Here she is
- 1:09:56in a very low cut top, clearly not wearing a bra. Here she's
- 1:10:00wearing an off the shoulder top that has mostly been cropped out, so she
- 1:10:01almost looks naked. I'm not going to click on those, but they're saying,
- 1:10:08these are the pictures that we took because we're using these These puppet masters
- 1:10:12are using you know, this woman to promote this Handmaid's Tale agenda by promoting
- 1:10:18her book and putting out pictures that she took but somehow she didn't want to,
- 1:10:25but she took them anyway, and they're using them because she's hurt and
- 1:10:28broken and like this is oh my god, this is so ridiculous. I
- 1:10:31can't believe. Okay, fundamentally, we'll tell us what you can't believe.
- 1:10:38I just I'm just saying, like I can't believe that there are women that
- 1:10:42will fall for this, Like that's what. That's it. I'm just saying,
- 1:10:45I can't believe that women will will read this substack and say, yes,
- 1:10:50this is happening, and then and they will claim to not be feminists
- 1:10:54by the way, while setting this to me, I mean, I guess
- 1:10:57I can believe it. Okay, right, go ahead, you know what
- 1:11:00I can't believe Okay. So she's essentially being saying that this woman is being
- 1:11:04used by an agenda, like her choices are not her own. And that's
- 1:11:10what a lot of people say when women make choices they don't agree with.
- 1:11:13They're like, oh, this woman is he's she's being in puppeted by the
- 1:11:17patriarchy, puppeted by the reactionary forces that want to bring about the nonsense known
- 1:11:23as the Handmaiden's tail. Right, yeah, god damn, you know.
- 1:11:30It's it's just really funny because I'm watching women and you know, we have
- 1:11:35a really nice thing. We've got a good setup here. It's okay,
- 1:11:39it's pretty good. You know, we're all doing fairly well where we were,
- 1:11:42you know, and the women are taking an axe to everything because they're
- 1:11:46saying, well, there's termites in the wood. We got to get rid
- 1:11:50of the termites. I'm like, your your actions. It's not the termites
- 1:11:54that's going to destroy everything, it's your actions. Right now. What you're
- 1:11:57doing is going to destroy everything. And here is another aspect of this.
- 1:12:01Of doing that, of destroying things, she is taking away this woman's individual
- 1:12:08moral responsibility for her choices. Who is going to make these choices for this
- 1:12:14woman? If you are saying that she is not responsible for them, She's
- 1:12:19like, Oh, they're being presented or presenting her she's making these choices,
- 1:12:24and they're gonna say that she needs a man to prevent her from doing and
- 1:12:28I'm saying that she isn't even making these choices either. Well, who are
- 1:12:31you gonna get to make the choices for her when she's not responsible for them.
- 1:12:36You see what I'm saying. Yeah, she's saying, Oh, well,
- 1:12:40they're going to present this woman making these choices, and it's gonna be
- 1:12:43the justification to take away those choices because she can't be responsible for those choices
- 1:12:47and making those choices right. Oh, by the way, she's not responsible
- 1:12:51for those choices and she's not making those like you're all appealing to this idea
- 1:12:58that women are not responsible for their choices all of you. What do you
- 1:13:02think is gonna result from that? Eventually people are gonna be like, well,
- 1:13:05if women are not responsible for their choices, and women are choosing to
- 1:13:10do things like destroy themselves and getting to situations where they're they're just you know,
- 1:13:15they're they're mentally ill, and well, we gotta make it so that
- 1:13:19they can't make these choices. Like you're doing the same thing, this woman
- 1:13:23is doing the same thing. Do you see that? Yeah, yeah,
- 1:13:27I see it. This article is projection. Omm hmm. All right,
- 1:13:31so I got some super I got well, I got some super childs.
- 1:13:34Yeah, so I got a super child from anonymous five dollars to Bryan.
- 1:13:39Most of rumble chat was complaining that you don't read out rumble rants. Do
- 1:13:43you follow up with those in the same way as super childs. No,
- 1:13:45there's some bug with with the with the uh uh social stream ninja that I
- 1:13:53use to display the chat because like, it lets me look at all of
- 1:13:58the different chats at the same time. I can look at the people what
- 1:14:00people send through on discord, YouTube, Twitch, you know, rumble,
- 1:14:04et cetera. And it used to be that if you sent a Rumble rant,
- 1:14:09it would come up on the feed that I'm looking at. I'll display
- 1:14:12so you guys can see it, and you can look here. You'll see
- 1:14:15the little Rumble logo be bad sads comment there, which is on the other
- 1:14:20stream. But for some reason, the paid stuff is not coming through,
- 1:14:24so I have to like try to remind myself to go look at the actual
- 1:14:29Rumble live stream, which I did, and that it'll show up there in
- 1:14:32the Rumble live chat but not in the social stream ninja. So I did
- 1:14:35get one a rumble rant, and I'm gonna look at it in a moment,
- 1:14:41but thanks for telling me. But that's why go ahead's appear after a
- 1:14:44certain amount of time too, right, They do because there's only so much
- 1:14:46room on the screen, so they like disappeared towards the top as more comments
- 1:14:50get added. But the Rumble rants have not been popping up, and so
- 1:14:54I've missed some of those, and I'm sorry about that, but I appreciate
- 1:14:57that you sent them through. I will try to be actively looking. Yeah,
- 1:15:00the best way to send us is through super chow feedabadger dot com.
- 1:15:03Yeah, yeah, if you want to do it, through a rumble rant.
- 1:15:08And you want to remind me, just just send a regular message through
- 1:15:11a rumble and say I sent through a super rumble rant. And then I'll
- 1:15:15go look just to make sure because I checked. But basically, when I
- 1:15:18stopped to do the messages, I'll look and see if there's any rumble rants.
- 1:15:23So anyway, I got another superchow. I always get the super Child's
- 1:15:26priority for fifty czars from Tell him nar and he says, Zar is South
- 1:15:31African rand. I always forget that, but it's a czar ari E the
- 1:15:36Handmaid's It's a fifty fifty dollars. Oh and then and then oh, oh,
- 1:15:42oh, okay, it's not fifty zars, it's fifty dollars. And
- 1:15:45then he says, Zar is a South African rant. Thank you, tell
- 1:15:46nar ari E. The Handmaid's sale the world was borderline post apocalyptic. Feminist
- 1:15:51obsession with that novel is ridiculous, and it's similar to people worrying about social
- 1:15:56trends and using the Fallout Games as a realistic example of what could happen and
- 1:16:00in the event of a major war. Oh but really, no, seriously,
- 1:16:03we should be We're actually we should be worried about corporations forcing us all
- 1:16:09into medical experiments. Shit, okay, feminists need to grow up. I'm
- 1:16:15sorry, I'm just gonna finish it and read a different book. Well,
- 1:16:17they were reading Harry Potter, but now they're reading a Handley Still. Also,
- 1:16:21Iranian oppression in the nineteen eighties involved descending masses of boys to horrible deaths
- 1:16:26during the war. They fought against Iraq, not women. Boys. I
- 1:16:30have a very low opinion of this woman's political knowledge. Widows and widowers can
- 1:16:33remarry, even since the days of Saint Paul. There's usually some kind of
- 1:16:38standard morning period. But yes, Christians take monogamy pretty seriously. Yes,
- 1:16:44thank you for that. Like it's ridiculous because she's the entire proposal here is
- 1:16:49that Christians are going to go into I guess maybe they're Mormons, who knows,
- 1:16:54but they're not Mormons considered Christians anyway. But yeah, they're kind of
- 1:16:59Christian. They are one those weird and they're going to denomination people on something
- 1:17:03that isn't Christian. Yeah, like, are you freaking kidding me? Okay,
- 1:17:10Yeah, let's keep let's finish this all right. Richard Beier then gives
- 1:17:14us five Bucks and says, haven't read the Handmade's sale, but have heard
- 1:17:16a review that mentions that with absolutely no setup or backstory, and the army
- 1:17:21just marched into Congress, arrested the legislators, and then just took over the
- 1:17:25government for no apparent reason. Now that sounds like my theory. Well,
- 1:17:29the thing that I said that if you know, if men wanted to do
- 1:17:31it, they would just do it. But the difference is is that in
- 1:17:33Margaret Atwood's brain, men would actually do it, and that's why that happened.
- 1:17:40But that's not really what would happen. Men would stop other men.
- 1:17:44Even if some men wanted to do it, they would be stopped by men.
- 1:17:46But women, I mean, they're kind of at men's mercy, but
- 1:17:50fortunately men have a lot of it. So all right, okay, I
- 1:17:56want to say this, Okay, there is that framework that men are at
- 1:17:59women or women at men's worth mercy, But I think that it omits how
- 1:18:03much power women have over men's sense of self, which is just the case
- 1:18:09in like the species that we're in. I'm just going to say that I
- 1:18:12agree within this framework, they should acknowledge the fact that they exist within men's
- 1:18:16mercy. But there's also another framework in which men sort of exist with them
- 1:18:21within the mercy of women, which which like what I mean by that is,
- 1:18:30women have control over the perception of whether or not men are socially valuable,
- 1:18:38and that puts men at women's mercy, the mercy of women's social opinions.
- 1:18:43And I don't know if I've seen a society where that is not the
- 1:18:45case. Even in primate like the in chimp society, which is not a
- 1:18:53good model of of us at all. The male leader is leads unless the
- 1:19:00females are dissatisfied with him, and then he ceases to lead. So there
- 1:19:05is a subtle control, a social control, that women have, and I
- 1:19:10think it does people disfavor to ignore that fact and not make women responsible for
- 1:19:15it. And this is why I think it's going to be one hundred percent
- 1:19:17on women if they collapse this society using their paranoid bullshit based on the handmaiden's
- 1:19:24tail. Yeah, that's the way it's going to go. It's not going
- 1:19:28to be because men collectively decided to oppress women. It's going to be because
- 1:19:32women just beat men's psychologically into a state of paralysis and they were no longer
- 1:19:40able to continue to give women or produce this society. You see what I'm
- 1:19:45saying. Yeah, if we say, like we use the framework well men,
- 1:19:50you know, women's exist on the behest of men, then everything becomes
- 1:19:55men men's fault essentially. All right, it is I don't think it's men's
- 1:20:00fault. I think this is this is a dynamic. But what's happening now.
- 1:20:06It is a dynamic between men and women. But when you have two
- 1:20:10people and you got a car stuck in the mud, right, and one
- 1:20:14person is pushing, but the other person isn't, it's up to the other,
- 1:20:18the person who isn't pushing, to take responsibility or nothing happens. And
- 1:20:23that's what's happening now. Men are taking responsibility for this society. Women aren't,
- 1:20:28and until they do nothing will happen. Nothing good will happen. And
- 1:20:33that's my opinion. Anyway, let's continue, all right, I got two
- 1:20:36rumble rants. I'm want to read them before I forget so Nova Fan gave
- 1:20:41us two dollars thank you, and he says it's sad that feminists have convinced
- 1:20:44themselves that oppressing women is the only way to keep them safe. They act
- 1:20:47like it's in men's nature to oppress women, but never have any adequate explanation.
- 1:20:54Yeah, then he gives us a dollar and says Feminists always point to
- 1:20:58just Christians as this vaguely defined evil religious cult. Do they ever define what
- 1:21:02specific denominations? Do they ever include Catholics by name because of the overlap?
- 1:21:08No, it doesn't matter, it is it is. Ultimately, you can
- 1:21:11like, look at I mean, there's a there's a case to be made
- 1:21:15that feminism was made or it came about in part to destroy Christianity specifically,
- 1:21:23but you know, I won't, I won't go into that here. You
- 1:21:26should. There are people who have talked about it in that way because it
- 1:21:30is essentially opposing everything that Christianity supposey stands for. And I think this handmade
- 1:21:34sale is an example of that is taking a story that means one thing turning
- 1:21:39into something else and then blaming the original story for that situation. But anyway,
- 1:21:46let's continue. So when the media want wants to create sympathy and support
- 1:21:53for sexual abuse victims, they don't present them like this. They present them
- 1:21:56looking modest and demure and even a little sad. Minimalm makeup site frowned,
- 1:22:01the message being this is a good girl. She didn't deserve this, She
- 1:22:04deserves your sympathy, and her perpetrators brought to justice. That they have chosen
- 1:22:09to represent Rushkin, a woman who has been serially raped and sexually abused since
- 1:22:13the age of ten, in sexualized, titillating ways does us everything we need
- 1:22:16to know about how they want the public to respond to her. They want
- 1:22:19people to respond with as they already are on social media or slut. Of
- 1:22:24course, it's wholly wrong that people respond that way, but they do,
- 1:22:28and the media knows it. The pr agencies behind Ruskin's promotional campaign know exactly
- 1:22:33what they are doing. Still, and she, still reeling from years of
- 1:22:38complex trauma and abuse, does not. She is being ruthlessly used and exploited,
- 1:22:42and the publishing house behind her books should be shut down for failing in
- 1:22:45its responsibilities to safeguard a vulnerable adult. Sounds like you, you think that
- 1:22:50women should have award to prevent these things from happening? Like it? Yeah,
- 1:22:57don't know. There's a lot of there's a responsible for her for her
- 1:23:01actions. Somebody else there is responsible for them. There's a lot of telepathy
- 1:23:06in this article there's a lot of mind or there's a lot of mind reading
- 1:23:11going on. I know what they're doing, I know what they meant,
- 1:23:14I know what you meant by that. Nevertheless, Ruskin's book is out there
- 1:23:17and could very well be the start of a significant unseeming of liberal Western attitudes
- 1:23:21to women's sex and relationships. That it is already getting prominent coverage throughout international
- 1:23:27and Western media. Both The New York Posts and Australianews dot Com have covered
- 1:23:30it makes this look even more likely. It all feeds into prominent cases where
- 1:23:34women have been acutely abused to the point of being murdered by becoming intimate with
- 1:23:40men they didn't know very well. There is the case of she's gonna read
- 1:23:44should I read this whole thing? She's gonna give me some cases I don't
- 1:23:46know the specifics of them, all right. There's the case of Grace Mulane,
- 1:23:50who was choked to death on our twenty second birthday by a man she
- 1:23:53met on a dating app while traveling to New Zealand. There's actually Wadsworth nineteen,
- 1:23:57who was murdered by her internet boyfriend when she flew over from Canada to
- 1:24:00England to meet him. And then there's the rash of the in the only
- 1:24:03fans thought are women who have been their partners. So what put into that
- 1:24:10context? Critics should could even make the case that Ruskin was lucky at least
- 1:24:14she wasn't killed, though she details how she knew she came close in one
- 1:24:16encounter. This all gives ample ambunition to make the case that freedom isn't a
- 1:24:21suitable quantity for women to possess. They can't handle it, They put themselves
- 1:24:26in danger. Men aren't to be trusted around them. We need more repressive
- 1:24:30rules to keep in place to keep everyone safe. Sound familiar, Yeah,
- 1:24:33wonder Yeah, that sounds familiar to the everything you've been saying in the previous
- 1:24:38paragraphs about how she was being taken advantage of. She has to be kept
- 1:24:43safe because she can't be responsible for her own choices. Do you see what
- 1:24:46I'm saying, Pray, mm hmm. It's like, Okate, Well,
- 1:24:50well she's very familiar because we've just been subjected to it by you. Yeah,
- 1:24:58we are under a full spectrum locks that attack to diminish our lives as
- 1:25:00much as possible, all into the guise of enhancing our safety, and that
- 1:25:04this book has been published now in a cutthroat publishing industry where nine to nine
- 1:25:09percent of manuscripts are rejected and given international media attention, straight away speaks deafening
- 1:25:14volumes. The question is will enough people be able to hear what the real
- 1:25:17message is? Could you just spell it out for me? Okay, you're
- 1:25:21not selling out? Well, I know what she's she's saying. She's like,
- 1:25:26look, I get that, like feminism and the sexual revolution made a
- 1:25:30lot of mistakes, but can we have a little bit of feminism? Can
- 1:25:33we just have a little bit of feminism? Can we have some how about
- 1:25:36right up to the nineties when you know, men were feeling pretty shitty and
- 1:25:42we still had sex in the city, but maybe you know, like a
- 1:25:45like, can we just have a little bit of feminism? That's what I'm
- 1:25:48getting from this is that people still held women accountable to their choices then.
- 1:25:54And here's the thing, Like she's essentially saying, this is what she's saying.
- 1:25:58She's saying that this book is chronicling the self chosen abuse basically of this
- 1:26:03woman. And this is this is a book that's going to be used to
- 1:26:09justify taking away women's rights because they can't make these choices. They when they
- 1:26:13make these choices, they make choices not in their own best interests. However,
- 1:26:16yeah, this woman has appealed to that very same dynamic, Like,
- 1:26:21who's going to stop this individual from playing into the hands of the diabolical handmaiden's
- 1:26:28tailed tyrants if she can't be responsible for her own choices? Like that is
- 1:26:35the logic. Women can't be cannot be given the ability to have choice over
- 1:26:43their own lives because they destroy them, right, Well, not holding women
- 1:26:48accountable for their choices is what's destroying them, right, Like, she needs
- 1:26:57to be held accountable for what she has chose. And this individual is even
- 1:27:01in this story where she's saying, well, this idea that women's choices are
- 1:27:06self destructive, therefore they can't be they can't be allowed to have them,
- 1:27:11she's appealing to the foundations behind that by saying that women can't be this woman
- 1:27:19cannot be trusted with the choice that she made. She made the wrong choice,
- 1:27:24she was taken advantage of. Well, who's going to prevent women from
- 1:27:28being taken advantage of? Who? Who is going to watch the women you
- 1:27:33are arguing for exactly the thing you say that you fear, and you're arguing
- 1:27:41for that thing because of your fear. The thing that's going to take away
- 1:27:45women's choices is because our society fumbles making them responsible for them. She shouldn't
- 1:27:55be getting outs. People should be telling her, you chose to engage with
- 1:28:00this culture. If you do not want to be abused, do not engage
- 1:28:03with this culture. This is true for men and women, and people need
- 1:28:08to tell her. They need to slap down the argument. Oh well,
- 1:28:12but what about equality. If you can't give me the scenario that I've made
- 1:28:16up in my mind that men have nothing to fear from casual sex, If
- 1:28:20you can't give that to me, then you're oppressing me. That's her logic.
- 1:28:26There needs to be people who say, well, first of all,
- 1:28:29men don't get that deal and they never have, so you don't have a
- 1:28:33right to it because you think they did, Because they didn't. They didn't
- 1:28:39have that deal and they've never had it, so you are not entitled to
- 1:28:43it based on your faulty ideals of equality, all right, and nobody's saying
- 1:28:48that. And also, you are responsible for the life that you live.
- 1:28:55You are, you are responsible for your own safety, you are you are
- 1:29:00now an autonomous moral individual. You do not have a male guardian who is
- 1:29:04responsible, so nobody else is responsible but you. And she's doing that,
- 1:29:10like she's appealing to the same mirror Mira app is appealing to the same damn
- 1:29:15dynamic that she points out is going to take away her rights, which is
- 1:29:18that women can't be held responsible. Yeah. So like even when women are
- 1:29:27like behaving in a sexually liberated way and they run into problems because you know,
- 1:29:33freedom comes with risk. Yeah, she still thinks this is oppression of
- 1:29:39women. Yeah, because some like there is this specter that because like there's
- 1:29:44no evidence of any of this. This is all like, oh, oh,
- 1:29:45I see where this is going. The patriarchy. She's not saying patriarchy,
- 1:29:50but the establishment is, you know, making the the reaction. My
- 1:29:56backlash is coming and I don't see any of it of it, and it
- 1:30:00really annoys me because there is a very hateful presumption deeply embedded in these women
- 1:30:10to think that men want to do anything like what they think they're going to
- 1:30:14do. It is so it is so deep seated. This is the point
- 1:30:19of my tweet when I said if men wanted to do this, because to
- 1:30:23believe that it is so hateful, It is so hatefiled to think that men
- 1:30:29would do that to women just because they're angry with them, and you know,
- 1:30:33it's just anyway, go ahead. And the thing is that men so
- 1:30:38identified like every group of men, this is what I've seen, every group
- 1:30:42of men on the planet identifies with their particular cultural framework in which they protect
- 1:30:47and provide for women. Okay, In some cultural frameworks, it's about being
- 1:30:53able to protect women physically through basically treating your life as expendable in the protection
- 1:31:00of your community. Right. And you know, guys who embrace that particular
- 1:31:04idea, a particular ideal, tend to have some difficult, you know,
- 1:31:12psychological stuff going on there, because it's a hard thing to maintain, to
- 1:31:15be willing to just throw your life away in terms of honor, in terms
- 1:31:19of the chastity and protection of your women. Okay, So, but every
- 1:31:24single man identifies with how their culture protects and provides for women. They identify
- 1:31:31their self worth with it. And I know their guys out there saying,
- 1:31:38well, I don't Well that's great, but you are rare. Most men
- 1:31:43identify their sense of self worth in terms of protecting and providing for women and
- 1:31:46within the cultural context that they've learned. Our cultural context is that men provide
- 1:31:54freedom and respect women and all this other crap to women. And I I
- 1:32:00I from what I've seen of human nature, there will be men who continue
- 1:32:06to try to make it work, even as women continue to try to tear
- 1:32:12it down with their fear that men don't care about them, that men hate
- 1:32:16them, that men want to oppress them. Meanwhile, men are still trying
- 1:32:19to make everything work as these women are whipping themselves up into a hysterical like
- 1:32:26tsunami of destruction over their paranoia. And that's what's happening, and that's in
- 1:32:33this article is buying into it because it's encouraging the perception that women are not
- 1:32:41responsible for their actions. Like, Yeah, it's just so clear to me,
- 1:32:48so crystal clear to me that it's not gonna be a handmaid in tail.
- 1:32:54It's not gonna be a situation. It's gonna be a situation where men
- 1:32:58finally conclude that women cannot be made responsible for their actions, and because they
- 1:33:03can't, they are have become their own dragon, their own destroyers, their
- 1:33:12own villains. And that's what's gonna happen. And if you really really want
- 1:33:19to change that. You don't add to it with more hysteria about men's intentions
- 1:33:25and motives. You hold women accountable. She made the choice to write this.
- 1:33:32She's the one getting the dividends. She's the one rolling in the money
- 1:33:36and attention. She chose it. She is the diabolical mastermind of her own
- 1:33:43damn life. Yeah, and she's gonna unmask. She's gonna unmask the CEO
- 1:33:47of the publisher, and it like on Scooby Doo, and it's gonna be
- 1:33:50her face underneath. Oh it was me all along, exactly, it was
- 1:33:58her. She is making the choice to publish this, She is making the
- 1:34:01choice to engage in this community or in the way that she did that put
- 1:34:08herself at risk. I mean, if you know that you are a kind
- 1:34:11of person that attracts abusers, maybe you should take the effort to avoid putting
- 1:34:16yourself in the shark tank. Okay, take some responsibility? Is that victim
- 1:34:21blaming? I don't give a fuck, because if you don't care enough to
- 1:34:27protect yourself, why should anyone else? Why should anyone else care more for
- 1:34:32your protection than you do? Why are you all that? And it is
- 1:34:38this attitude that women's choices are less important than women's protection, which is going
- 1:34:45to take away their choices. Do you see that? Yeah? Okay.
- 1:34:53The whole victim blaming nonsense is like, oh, we might make women feel
- 1:34:57bad, so what it's their choice. As a result of their choice,
- 1:35:03they experience something, and they need to know that they're responsible for that.
- 1:35:12Okay. I got a super chat. I got a super chow, and
- 1:35:15I'm gonna eat it really quick. And then I think, I don't know
- 1:35:18if you want to do a little Lauren Southern action. Yeah, maybe a
- 1:35:20little Lauren Southern. I think I want to look at that tweet that I
- 1:35:25sent you. I've sent it through discord. Yeah, I can put it.
- 1:35:28I can give people some freaking context for all of this. Mm hmm.
- 1:35:33Okay, superchow first, so this one comes from looks like an anonymous
- 1:35:45person for five dollars. The fog began to lift, and enemy troops could
- 1:35:48be dimly seen about a mile and a half away on the heights of Cread
- 1:35:51indoors Grain indoors. Okay to the lift below, the gunfire was growing louder.
- 1:35:58Kutsuzov stop talking with an Austrian. Austrian general Prince Andre, standing slightly
- 1:36:04behind him, peered at the enemy and turned to an adjutant wishing to borrow
- 1:36:11you know, ad jude adjudant. Yeah, a judant wishing to borrow a
- 1:36:16field glass from him. Look, look, said his said this adjundant,
- 1:36:21looking not at the distant troops, but down the hill in front of him.
- 1:36:26It's the French. Another excerpt from War and Peace. Oh my god,
- 1:36:30he's trolling us. Yeah. I knew that. I looked at I
- 1:36:32mean, you need to figure out why he What was the relevance and there
- 1:36:36was none? No? All right, god? Okay. Albert Nada gives
- 1:36:43us a two dollars super chat and Canadian and says it must be said,
- 1:36:47catch up women most affected? Okay a jutant, Yeah, adjutant. Okay,
- 1:36:55thank you for the thank you for that. Okay. So anyway,
- 1:36:59let's let's go back to this. So we got here This post from Peter
- 1:37:02Wright ginocentrism dot com. The following study surveyed four in a sixty one college
- 1:37:09age female students regarding sexually aggressive behavior with males. Results below This is from
- 1:37:14nineteen ninety eight. Motives are sexual initiation and aggression. Do you want me
- 1:37:18to look at something specific. Oh I should yeah, shared this tab instead.
- 1:37:21Yeah, just just share the tab I'm sharing. You're gonna look look
- 1:37:26up. We're gonna go from the bottom up because at some point it's so.
- 1:37:30This is the percentage of women responding yes to sexually aggressive behavior. So
- 1:37:34what they mean by sexually aggressive behavior is basically sexual violence. All right,
- 1:37:39Let's just start with twenty four because the top ones are not interesting because they're
- 1:37:44about consensual stuff. By threatening him with a weapon, eight point nine percent
- 1:37:49of women said they threatened a man with a weapon in order to elicit sex.
- 1:37:56All right, Okay, are we gonna say that rape culture quote unquote
- 1:38:00is some kind of thing that only men need to take responsibility for. All
- 1:38:04right? Twenty three? This is this is right out of the handmaiden's tail.
- 1:38:10By threatening self harm, I believe Rachel threatened to hurt herself in order
- 1:38:15to get Jacob's consent sexually. Right out of the handmaiden's tale. Seven point
- 1:38:20four percent of women report threatening self harm in order to elicit sex from men.
- 1:38:27To rape men, Well, it's threatening self harm rape. It's a
- 1:38:30gray area, all right. Twenty two By using physical force. I know
- 1:38:34people might think that this, women are incapable of using physical force. But
- 1:38:39get this, men don't want to hurt women. It restricts how much they're
- 1:38:44willing to fight back. And also they know if they do fight back,
- 1:38:47guess who's the one who's gonna get in trouble if she screams? All right,
- 1:38:51twenty percent of women use physical force. Now, if all things were
- 1:38:56equal and men could just use as much physical force back, this wouldn't be
- 1:39:00this wouldn't necessarily be a threat. But we don't exist in that society.
- 1:39:03We exist in a society where a woman screams and twelve a couple dozen you
- 1:39:10know, white knights come out of nowhere and start holding him down so that
- 1:39:14she can stab him more, all right. Twenty one. By threatening to
- 1:39:18use physical force, twenty seven percent of women twenty seven point eight percent of
- 1:39:23women have threatened to use physical force in order to elicit sexual activity. That
- 1:39:28means he says no, and she's like, yeah, but really, what
- 1:39:31if I do something really fucking shitty to you? All right? Twenty By
- 1:39:36taking advantage of compromising position. In other words, he has to because he
- 1:39:44well, he can't say no because otherwise something bad will happen, Like I
- 1:39:48don't know, he'll be discovered the cheating, or he might not be able
- 1:39:53to do a job or fulfill a contract, all right. Nineteen By using
- 1:40:00your position of power and authority, Twenty six percent of women use their position
- 1:40:04of power and authority to elicit sex. Holy shit, all right eighteen,
- 1:40:11Well he was a miner and you were not. Twenty nine point three percent
- 1:40:15of women reported forcing sex on a miner who by getting him drunk or stoned.
- 1:40:27Thread Thirty six percent of women reported getting a man drunk or stoned in
- 1:40:31order to force sex on him while he was drunk or stoned. Sixty two
- 1:40:38percent of women have had sex with a man while he was drunk or stone
- 1:40:42Now that is a very gray area, yeah for sure. Oh and here
- 1:40:49fifteen to gain power or control of partner, Forty five percent of women use
- 1:40:56sex to gain power control over partner. This is really interesting because there's another
- 1:41:02study and I won't I won't get into like making you show it or anything
- 1:41:06that looked at the motivations of female and male rapists, and female rapists by
- 1:41:14far were motivated by control. They wanted to control their targets. Male rapists
- 1:41:20weren't, like I think it was like fifteen percent, Like it was like
- 1:41:27considerably more. I don't remember the ZAC stats, but the isn't that interesting?
- 1:41:30And then they just dropped that study, of course, and they dropped
- 1:41:33the whole investigation into this because they didn't find what they wanted. What they
- 1:41:38wanted to find was that male rapists were motivated by control, and they found
- 1:41:42that female rapists were good. Grief, who the precuses? Sex? El?
- 1:41:47What am I talking about? Anyway? I just wanted to point all
- 1:41:50of this out while we after we've read that long article, which basically amounts
- 1:41:58to this woman chose to put herself in a situation where bad things happen to
- 1:42:01her. Therefore we should take away her rights or we should be worried we
- 1:42:08therefore men will act on that to take away all of women's rights. Yeah,
- 1:42:13so it's like, this thing happened to this woman, and she did
- 1:42:15this to herself, which means it's going to affect all women everywhere, especially
- 1:42:20in the West. Argument, is it going to be a US argument via
- 1:42:24the handmaiden's tail to take away women's rights because this particular woman was choosing to
- 1:42:30put herself in danger out of a misplaced idea that somehow if she can't have
- 1:42:38casual sex with men, it's it's unfair because men can have casual sex with
- 1:42:43women without worrying. Are you fucking kid? You did you hear what I
- 1:42:46just read? Men can have casual sex without with women without worrying. Yeah,
- 1:42:51bullshit. They don't get this. That means women aren't entitled to this
- 1:42:56based on the ideology around equality. Men don't get it, like men don't
- 1:43:02get a safe world. Men don't get safe sexual partners, like casual sexual
- 1:43:08partners. Men don't get any of this. But she believes that she's entitled
- 1:43:12to it because she thinks they do. And she's willing. And remember I
- 1:43:17was gonna mention this study is what women were willing to admit to. Yeah,
- 1:43:25she's willing to put herself in harm's way out of this misplaced idea that
- 1:43:30she's owed an equality that doesn't exist, Okay, and honestly, and then
- 1:43:35this woman is saying, as a result of talking about this woman's misadventures,
- 1:43:42people are going to take away her freedom because she's destroying herself with it.
- 1:43:45How wout we just take away the stupid ideology about how there's some sort of
- 1:43:49equality that she needs to that she's she's out there, you know, why
- 1:43:54don't we just tell her? You know? Actually men don't get that,
- 1:43:57So maybe you should take care of yourself because men need to as well,
- 1:44:00Like why don't we just get rid of the stupid I why don't we get
- 1:44:02rid of the false beliefs? Right? And also you are appealing to this
- 1:44:08idea that this woman choice making self destructive choices yourself, Like you're engaging in
- 1:44:14the very dynamic of stripping women of responsibility for their choices. Which are these
- 1:44:19people are appealing to to say, well, we got to restrict, restrict,
- 1:44:23we got to strip women of responsibility of their choice. Like what the
- 1:44:26hell? Okay, I'm gonna shut up. Let's let's look it all right,
- 1:44:30all right, So I got a couple of I got a couple of
- 1:44:31super chats. So zof Mode gave us two dollars Canadian says just hello,
- 1:44:35thank you, zoff Mode, and then Albernida Retro gives us two dollars Canadian
- 1:44:42and says, remember apall jacket on the subway, thank you for the super
- 1:44:46chats, And let me just look at rumble nothing there, okay, So
- 1:44:50let's look at this. So this is all kind of happening around the same
- 1:44:55time. I think it's pretty interesting. Laurence Southern made this video call this
- 1:45:00is an absolute joke and she I think I haven't watched it, but Lindsay
- 1:45:03was watching it this morning. I think it was this morning. How long
- 1:45:06maybe it is yesterday. It's an hour, it's it's not an hour,
- 1:45:10it's it it's eleven twelve minutes. We don't have to watch the whole thing.
- 1:45:13We can watch some of it if and you know whatever, but yeah,
- 1:45:17hey about it. Well, Lindsay said that Laurence Southern is uh making
- 1:45:25this this Like so there's been this discourse on Twitter where you know, people
- 1:45:31have been women have been supposed right wing women. I'm putting this in quotes
- 1:45:38have expressed concerns that the red pill manisphere bro space is becoming like worryingly toxic
- 1:45:45and that like there because there was this like people talking about repeal the nineteenth
- 1:45:50and I think most of it is just people being joky and edgy online.
- 1:45:55It'll probably never happen because it like women would have to literally vote again their
- 1:46:00own self interest, which is not gonna happen. I just it's just not
- 1:46:02a reality. But men are talking about it because it's upsetting some of these
- 1:46:06women and they're reacting to it, so it's sort of like beating into it,
- 1:46:10and some of them have taken it very seriously, like Sidney Watson has
- 1:46:14been really upset and Lauren Southern has been really upset. Although Lauren shen less
- 1:46:19so she actually said, yeah, I don't think women should vote, but
- 1:46:23I also don't think that most men should vote either. Like she's against universal
- 1:46:26suffrage full stop and thinks that the only people who should vote should be people
- 1:46:30who are legitimately invested in the country. And I am inclined to agree with
- 1:46:34that, and I'm totally cool with it, but but it doesn't change the
- 1:46:38fact that people like Sidney Watson and Lauren Southern and Tree of Logic are freaking
- 1:46:43out about this. And so Laurence Southern made a video. I don't know
- 1:46:46if it's about this, but apparently this is what Lindsay was reacting to.
- 1:46:49She's like, oh, yeah, like we've lost her, you know,
- 1:46:54it's all ogre. Well, I mean, Laura's Southern was like she's okay
- 1:46:59at the beginning, but I don't know, man, I think that,
- 1:47:01like, you know, she's become a mother, and I think that it's
- 1:47:04just changed her biology or something. I don't know. I don't want to
- 1:47:08speak to it. All I know is she was okay in the beginning.
- 1:47:12But this is the thing, Okay, what I have found. I've been
- 1:47:15doing this for ten years, and I would say that in ten years,
- 1:47:19my views on lots of things have changed a lot. I started off on
- 1:47:24one thing where I was just like, I want to talk about men's issues.
- 1:47:27And once you start going down that road, you start seeing other things
- 1:47:30that challenge your worldview, and like everything that you thought you believed in or
- 1:47:36that you generally agreed with might change. Like you, at least you're open.
- 1:47:41It's going to be challenged in some degree, but you come out the
- 1:47:44other end feeling stronger for it because you're like, well, now I understand
- 1:47:48why I believe what I believe and why I change my mind about these other
- 1:47:51things or whatever. But these things get challenged, and I think that with
- 1:47:56when it comes to women, it's a lot harder for them to do it.
- 1:48:00Now. Lindsey has also been through a lot of changes, and we've
- 1:48:02talked about them a lot. Right over the course of the time that we've
- 1:48:05known each other, which I've known her for like nine years, we've been
- 1:48:10married for seven, and you know, like like it's just a part of
- 1:48:15the process. Like you can't start talking about something like, oh, you
- 1:48:17know, I want to end circumcision. Oh, you know, I want
- 1:48:20to end you know, I want fathers to have access to their kids.
- 1:48:25You know, I've seen my friends get destroyed in divorce court. I've seen
- 1:48:28my friends who's access to their children? Yeah, you start asking asking why
- 1:48:32this stuff is? Yeah, why does this exactly? And then you but
- 1:48:35then you start looking deeper because you start learning that, oh, you know,
- 1:48:40like what's the truth about feminism? Where does it come from? Like
- 1:48:44how pervasive is it? And like what does it mean to get rid of
- 1:48:46it? What does it mean to be a liberal? What does it mean
- 1:48:48to be a conservative? Like what does it really mean? Because if we
- 1:48:53can't talk about it, what it really really means, then we can't actually
- 1:48:57address anything. So because I've been hold all of these falsehoods about almost every
- 1:49:02word that I use in my day to day life does not mean what it's
- 1:49:05supposed to mean. Because of all of this shit that we've been you know,
- 1:49:10shoved it down our throats for before we were born. Then it's going
- 1:49:15to like have like a you know, a severe challenging effect on your thought
- 1:49:19processes and what your beliefs are. And I think that some people like Lauren
- 1:49:25Chen. This is the thing about Lauren Chen and Sidney Watson. I think
- 1:49:28it's really interesting. I've had them both on the show like years ago,
- 1:49:33years ago, before day I knew who Sidney Watson was. I only knew
- 1:49:36her because she did a men's march in Australia, and I thought, oh,
- 1:49:40that's cool, I'll have her on the show. And I had her
- 1:49:41on and we talked. And I also had Lauren Chen on when she was
- 1:49:45still called Roaming Millennials. So this is like way back, right years back,
- 1:49:48and with both of them, I brought up the the you know,
- 1:49:54it was feminism necessary in the Middle East or at any point in history argument.
- 1:49:58I brought it up to both of them and they both were like,
- 1:50:01well, no, no, I think that women are totally oppressed in this
- 1:50:03part of the world or in history. Right at that time, I was
- 1:50:08challenging that idea because that's one of those things that like I was supposed to
- 1:50:12agree with even if I was, you know, a critic of feminism,
- 1:50:15right, So at that time, I was starting to challenge that belief in
- 1:50:18myself, and so I was proposing it to other people to see what they
- 1:50:23thought, and at that time, that's what they thought. But here's the
- 1:50:26interesting thing. As time has moved on, I'm pretty sure Lauren Chen has
- 1:50:30moved away from that idea and she's become like even more severely like against feminism
- 1:50:36in many ways, although not quite at the point where I'm at, but
- 1:50:41that's okay. And Sidney Watson has stayed the same because she and so when
- 1:50:45she that's why they are on opposite sides of this particular issue, where you
- 1:50:51know, Lauren Chen is like, well, even if there are like,
- 1:50:55you know, anonymous people on Twitter being lippy with me, I'm not gonna
- 1:51:00make that like an excuse to change all of my political opinions, where Sidney
- 1:51:03Watson is like, well, we're just gonna vote for the end of our
- 1:51:05country because I don't like the way you're talking to me. And that's literally
- 1:51:10what's happening on Twitter is that there are women, not all of them probably,
- 1:51:14but a lot of them who are like, we're we were on the
- 1:51:16right, but you guys are being mean, and now we're gonna vote for
- 1:51:19Joe Biden and we're gonna let the borders just gush with men and they're just
- 1:51:24gonna come in here and change the demographics. Fuck it, we're just gonna
- 1:51:27collapse the country. Take that men, And it's like this is well,
- 1:51:32I mean, I'm just saying like, this is like, this is literally
- 1:51:35you're making the argument for repeal the Nineteenth. As you're trying to make this
- 1:51:40say like you're explaining to me why this has to happen, you know,
- 1:51:44And again that's why I said, you know, ladies, if men wanted
- 1:51:46to this would be done. But you don't see that. It's like it's
- 1:51:51almost like it's, oh, oh, by the way, it's just a
- 1:51:54big shit test, right, It's just a shit test. Guys, Just
- 1:51:57like just like call them on their shit tests, and I promise you they'll
- 1:52:00just change they'll change their ways. But they're not because they think that like
- 1:52:05they literally believe that they have this power that they also believe they don't have
- 1:52:11to like manipulate us. So all right, all right, let me let
- 1:52:14me just uh sorry, I might have I might have screwed up with your
- 1:52:16momentum. There. No, I'm just explaining that that I'm saying that women
- 1:52:21Joe Biden, so these women, Yeah, just despite you, all the
- 1:52:26men that I say are are are dangerous. Like I mean, the framework
- 1:52:30you said is, are the men over there oppressing women? I'm going to
- 1:52:34vote for Joe Biden because the men who up well, because the men over
- 1:52:39here are being mean to us on Twitter are being mean to That's why there
- 1:52:42any import the men who I say oppress women. Okay, yeah, that's
- 1:52:47an interesting self own there. Well, I know, but I mean this
- 1:52:50is like woman logic. I don't know how else to explain it. Like
- 1:52:54it literally like we're I said, I jokingly said to Lindsey today. I
- 1:52:59think we were talking about this and I was like, we are living through
- 1:53:02like four years of a woman moment. It's a woman moment that goes for
- 1:53:06four years. That's what we're going through right now. That's why all of
- 1:53:10this is chaotic, because men are just like fuck whatever, right and thinking
- 1:53:14when you're importing in the people who you say oppressed women in order to stick
- 1:53:19it to the men who have constructed the society in which you are presumably less
- 1:53:25oppressed. Yeah, that's that's an interesting logic there, but also like,
- 1:53:33you know what, go ahead, Brian, I can hear you sign.
- 1:53:36No, I just want to play the video. Yeah, you're right here.
- 1:53:40I mean this, We've gone for what two hours already. I just
- 1:53:43I don't know if we want to go much longer. But yeah, all
- 1:53:46right. Six years ago I posted this video about Ali Dawa. Will you
- 1:53:53shake my hand? No? No, you both shake my hand. Even
- 1:53:57basic cultural greeting standards in the West are not permissible within Islam, which at
- 1:54:02the very least indicates there's some level of discussion to be had about the compatibility
- 1:54:09of this religion and European culture. Certainly as more and more Muslims. Wait,
- 1:54:16okay, so because men are pissing you off on Twitter, you're going
- 1:54:21to import more Muslims. Well, Laurence is not the one that threatened to
- 1:54:28vote in Joe Biden, but she is saying that. She is saying that,
- 1:54:31like you know, these right wing Manisphere guys, she's calling him right
- 1:54:34wing. But I think I know what is there, So she is there
- 1:54:38there they want to bring or they are starting to bring in Islam. Well,
- 1:54:44that that's what's happened in in Europe and the UK, so absolutely what's
- 1:54:48happening. And that's the thing too, is that like in Europe and the
- 1:54:51UK, like you know, this is where some other people who are trying
- 1:54:59to warn about the handmad sale in America, Like it's like, well,
- 1:55:02are you looking at what's happening in your own country? Like if you guys
- 1:55:06don't fix the situation between men and women right now, like they're like mad
- 1:55:11that. Andrew Tate made a video where he said people need to make more
- 1:55:14white babies and they are like the women were just like oh aghast like oh
- 1:55:18my god, what do you mean. It's like, no, I think
- 1:55:21what he's saying is you can call it edgy whatever. What he's saying is
- 1:55:25is that while men and women in Western countries, in first world Western countries
- 1:55:30are still divided by feminism, by all these other things that are basically telling
- 1:55:35women that men like are not measuring up, calling them in cells, shaming
- 1:55:40them constantly not wanting to like, putting off marriage, putting off family,
- 1:55:45putting off children, focusing on career, being a boss bitch, you know,
- 1:55:48a fucking twinkle twinkle, like all this other stuff. Okay, Meanwhile,
- 1:55:54in Islam they are having babies like crazy because they got their shit together.
- 1:55:59And this is the thing that he's saying, like they're making babies.
- 1:56:01Now, you might have criticisms of their culture, but their culture is growing,
- 1:56:05their culture is winning there they've said, like I remember saying this years
- 1:56:11ago when like when when there was like I think the the migrant crisis was
- 1:56:15starting in like France, there was a guy who said that we will it
- 1:56:19was either a man or a woman, I can't remember. We will conquer
- 1:56:21the West through the womb and not the sword. And I said, they're
- 1:56:26gonna make lots of babies, and they are doing that, and they're forming
- 1:56:30families and they're staying together. So your critique of their culture is meaningless because
- 1:56:34they're winning. And this is what people like Lauren and souther are missing.
- 1:56:38So after a while, you're just gonna, you know what, all of
- 1:56:41this shit that you're worried about, guess what. You better start learning Aramaic
- 1:56:45and you better figure out where the fuck Mecca is because you're gonna be praying
- 1:56:47there five five times a day or else you don't have a choice, Like,
- 1:56:51you have to get your shit together. So all of this shit about
- 1:56:55the red pill bros On Twitter, bullshit, you do not have your priorities.
- 1:57:00That's right, ladies. I'm sorry, it's so stupid. And then
- 1:57:02like to go over here and criticize us because there are people here like you
- 1:57:06know what, we should probably get the Christians together and make that, like,
- 1:57:11you know, a primary focus because in fact, our borders are also
- 1:57:15being invaded by people not just from South America but also from Africa and China,
- 1:57:20and that's fucked up. So you know, maybe we should make this
- 1:57:24a Christian car. Oh, that sounds like they're handmade sale. Oh,
- 1:57:27once again, Christianity is a problem Islam. Well, well it's just but
- 1:57:33the food though, I want their flaffels. Okay, yeah, go ahead,
- 1:57:42Okay, I'm just okay. There's a lot of fuck in this and
- 1:57:46I'm gonna look at it. First of all, yes, you're right,
- 1:57:53Islam is gonna win or the Amish, I don't know, and it's gonna
- 1:57:56be. Well, the Amish are gonna be. They have guns, so
- 1:58:00it's gonna be. But but I mean in a mayor and not in the
- 1:58:03Europe, in the UK, they can't defend themselves. They're fucked, like
- 1:58:08they're fucked. If they don't start making babies, and there's nothing racist about
- 1:58:12that. Well, I mean making uh, having somebody who inherit their particular
- 1:58:17viewpoints on the world would be the way to look at that. But all
- 1:58:20right, you're right, Like it's it does come down to that, we
- 1:58:25are breeding colonies, and when a colony ceases to breed, it has no
- 1:58:29future. It's going to collapse. Well, the ones that do breed are
- 1:58:33gonna win. Well, but here's the thing, Like is Islamic women are
- 1:58:40invested in their culture like they're invested in it. They want it to continue,
- 1:58:46right, and they're they're they're willing and they they apparently either love or
- 1:58:51respect the men of their culture, so they're really to get into relationships with
- 1:58:57them. And it is consensual for the most part. Not maybe not when
- 1:59:00in these strange, outlying tribal places. And you could say the same about
- 1:59:04weird Mormon communities too. You always find weird communities outliers. But they are
- 1:59:13willing to get in relationships with their men. They're willing to have children with
- 1:59:16them and raise them. You know, they're willing to do this, and
- 1:59:24women in the West are less and less willing to do this, despite the
- 1:59:28fact that the men of our society are the ones who are maintaining and building
- 1:59:33the society that they that has the most freedom for women, or at least
- 1:59:38according to their perception of freedom. Right, So the more freedom men give
- 1:59:45women, the less the women are interested in investing in the community, in
- 1:59:53the culture that gives them that freedom. So it's like, well do you
- 1:59:57see that, Like, if you can't get women who love the men who
- 2:00:01are giving them this culture are building it for them, then you're not going
- 2:00:06to have a future. You're right, It's just that they are winning.
- 2:00:11They have constructed a culture in which people are forming families and our culture that
- 2:00:16doesn't happen. That doesn't and you know people are people or people out there
- 2:00:19forming. Yes, there still are, but the projections are like the low
- 2:00:25end is that forty five percent of women will be single with no children by
- 2:00:30twenty thirty. I think it is, And that's the low I think we're
- 2:00:33probably much higher as a likelihood, and that's without children. Now if you
- 2:00:39add in the single mothers, that's even higher. This is not a this
- 2:00:43is not a system that has a future. And it's because women apparently hate
- 2:00:50the men who've constructed the society of the greatest amount of privilege and freedom.
- 2:00:56Mm hm they hate them and yeah, that's just not a tenable. Well,
- 2:01:02I you know again, I don't think it's gonna be I don't think
- 2:01:05it's gonna look like oppression in the you know, second wave or whatever you
- 2:01:12conservative view that people like Diddy Watson believe. But I'm saying that your concern
- 2:01:19seems to be living under a theocratic authority, and you seem to think that
- 2:01:25it's the Christians that are going to do it, but it's not. It's
- 2:01:29not them, it's the other guys. Well, I think Southern is agreeing
- 2:01:32with that. Yeah, but I think, yeah, well, that's the
- 2:01:35thing. I'm not sure what her argument. Knowess Lindsay gave me a timestamp.
- 2:01:39She sent it through the chat. Let me see if I can find
- 2:01:43her message. She said, go to nine twenty to get her main argument.
- 2:01:49Run through those clips. So I guess I'll start from here and see
- 2:01:53humanly possible. I was on the forefront of criticizing that absurdity, and it
- 2:01:58was absurdity. But really, in response to this, do you have to
- 2:02:01go and become barbarians? Listen, the left imparted all of this. I
- 2:02:05don't want to hear a peep about peep from them about the sexism of young
- 2:02:11British boys. They did this, and now you've got all of these new
- 2:02:15influencers on the right that say I've changed, I've become some sort of feminazi
- 2:02:20now that I shouldn't be critiquing any of this, that I shouldn't even be
- 2:02:24online at all commenting critique. We sort of missed that part, uh,
- 2:02:30critiquing. Yeah, I guess I could go back. I don't know,
- 2:02:32there's not too far because I don't want to belabor this. But all right,
- 2:02:36let's see what this is anymore. You know, I'm so tired.
- 2:02:41Cattor just says, make me a sandwich in response to her, Yeah,
- 2:02:45well this is the high IQ right wing interest thing is Oh I see,
- 2:02:49so the woman is crying on TikTok and then this guy is like hahuh and
- 2:02:56now, well, okay, all right, I guess it's just not enough
- 2:03:00easy place. You literally have tweets like this from big right wing accounts captured
- 2:03:05where you have a woman saying, hey, the current market that we're living
- 2:03:10in, the nine to five, I don't think it's really you know,
- 2:03:14designed for happiness or fulfillment. Why is it that I have to work forty
- 2:03:21hours a week just so I can have a place to live. I don't
- 2:03:26know what to do about it anymore. You know, I'm so tired.
- 2:03:30Captured just says make me a sandwich. In response, K, well,
- 2:03:36forty hours a week, that's well. Let me let me ask you this,
- 2:03:44because here's the thing. Lord Southern did cover this in the past.
- 2:03:47I don't know this woman's situation. All I know is she says she works
- 2:03:53really hard and she's crying and sad. Now call me cruel, but I
- 2:03:59don't have a lot of See. The thing is I have it tough too.
- 2:04:02I'm not crying on TikTok. This is not a uniquely feminine thing.
- 2:04:06This is not a uniquely female problem. I would ask I would challenge this
- 2:04:11woman with a couple of questions. Number one, how are you living for
- 2:04:15forty for the forty hour worked week that you spend all your money on,
- 2:04:18just like getting by? What does your apartment look like? How much do
- 2:04:23you spend on that? Are you living within your means? You know why
- 2:04:26I say that because there are people who live in the third world right now
- 2:04:29that are happy even though they have less, like you couldn't have less than
- 2:04:34she Well, you couldn't have less than they have. And I know that
- 2:04:38she lives in America and she's doing a lot better just based on that she's
- 2:04:42on TikTok, clearly has a cell phone. I'm sorry, but like this
- 2:04:46is the thing, Like this woman is accustomed to a certain lifestyle, and
- 2:04:50Lauren Suthern is even willing to challenge that by saying, well, wait a
- 2:04:54minute, if you're really poor and barely getting by number one, why are
- 2:04:58you doing it alone? Like why are you doing this by yourself? Why
- 2:05:01did you buy into the boss the girl boss thing and then try to do
- 2:05:05that? If that's the case, I don't know where is there a man
- 2:05:09helping you out? If there is a man helping you out, is he
- 2:05:12doing enough? Do you think that he should be doing more? Are you
- 2:05:15making more than he is? Because on average, women are making a little
- 2:05:18bit more than men right now? Does that mean you can't find anybody that's
- 2:05:21suitable to like share in, Like who's your partner at crime? Like what
- 2:05:26is going on? Like this? There's too many questions that are not answered.
- 2:05:30But I'm just supposed to feel bad because Catter made a spicy comment about
- 2:05:33this woman that's crying when I'm I don't know if she has any control over
- 2:05:38her situation. She probably does. I'm telling you, I know homeless people
- 2:05:43who don't complain this much. Okay, forty hours a week. She doesn't
- 2:05:48have time, energy, or cash you enjoyed? Well, does she have
- 2:05:51a huge commute? Like, well, I'm saying, what are your living
- 2:05:58conditions? Like? Forty hours a week? That's like everybody expects to work
- 2:06:03that. Yeah, that's a normal nine to five I've employed. If yourself
- 2:06:10probably working considerably more because you can't get away from it, right, But
- 2:06:14everybody expects to work that, lady. What you're complaining about is basically the
- 2:06:19bill of goods that everyone gets, you know, and if you didn't want
- 2:06:25that you captured. Has a point like a stay at home wife in the
- 2:06:30fifties worked like three hours a day. Yeah, realistically, I mean everything
- 2:06:36else she could she could probably fill it with interesting like hobbies and stuff,
- 2:06:41and they did. But for the most part, it's like the domestic The
- 2:06:45domestic job went from a twelve hour a day, six day a week job,
- 2:06:50and that wasn't that was actually the better job because the man would probably
- 2:06:54be working sixty to eighty hours a week, you know, like sixteen hours,
- 2:06:59like all sixteen hours a day, eight seven days a week. So
- 2:07:03it's in a much more physically challenging So what happened is that we reduced that
- 2:07:11all of these labor saving devices reduced that from twelve hours a day to three.
- 2:07:15You know, you could be five hours, five days a week.
- 2:07:18You could be working fifteen hours a day supposedly as a homemaker. Except that's
- 2:07:24that choice is off the table because everybody women wanted to work, and I
- 2:07:28well, right, no, yeah, but like if a woman wanted to
- 2:07:31look, if a woman wanted to like not like if a one wanted to
- 2:07:35stay in or stay home and be a homemaker and a man was to work,
- 2:07:40they can still do that today. They would just have to be able,
- 2:07:43they boo. But they would have to be willing to live within their
- 2:07:46means. And that's that's the thing, Like there is no excuse, I'm
- 2:07:50sorry, like you can you may have to adjust your expectations. And I
- 2:07:55think that I don't know this woman's situation, but Lauren Southern doesn't know it
- 2:07:59either, so we both have to make assumptions and I'm going to assume that
- 2:08:03just based on like what I'm looking at she I'll just go back to the
- 2:08:07video briefly. I mean, she lives indoors, she's probably got heating.
- 2:08:13She's clearly on a phone or a computer recording this. There's like a poster
- 2:08:18on her wall. She's probably doing okay, But like how responsible is she
- 2:08:22with her money? Does she have credit card debt? Does she have student
- 2:08:26loan debt? Like, and I'm not saying that any of this is fair,
- 2:08:30but like we know, like, look, I don't want to just
- 2:08:35complain about problems. I want to fix them. It's not about the nail.
- 2:08:39It is about the nail, all right, Like let's move on because
- 2:08:43it's all right, Well, I got a superchow. I want to read
- 2:08:46the superchow and then move on from there. So super chow from tell him
- 2:08:52nar for ten, he says Arabic, not Aramaic. Nobody but a handful
- 2:08:54of Orthodox Christians speaks Aramaic. I agree with everything else in your crazy rants
- 2:08:58though dark times ahead, thank you. Sorry, don't sort, don't spurag
- 2:09:01out. I actually had a bit of a white pill. You know what
- 2:09:05I think is actually gonna happen. Uh. I think that it's turning out
- 2:09:09that this this financial system is pretty damn robust. And I talked a lot
- 2:09:13about how it's gonna be the pain that gets them over the chasm. You
- 2:09:16know what, I think the pain is actually going to be. It's gonna
- 2:09:18be boredom. Are bored. They are bored. This is everything that we're
- 2:09:26doing is boredom. It's it's I think it's it's a result of boredom.
- 2:09:31And it's only getting worse because people can't even like our storytellers aren't even doing
- 2:09:35their job anymore. So it just gets We're just descend into this pit of
- 2:09:39boredom. So what we really need to do is we need to capture entertainment
- 2:09:46and and turn it to our own ends, and then we can construct the
- 2:09:50Handmaiden's tail. M M, all right, I got another superchow A surely
- 2:09:56the entertainment. All right, I'm gonna read another superchow ZARANX gives us five
- 2:10:00and says there's a guy on X called Sovereign bra who called Laurence video obfuscating.
- 2:10:05But he aligns red Pill with the elites wanting men to not know about
- 2:10:09Southern and Midwest Christian women. It's the same issue with trads or supposed trads
- 2:10:13going after migtow because they don't like them. Sovereign Bra Laurence, Southern Natty,
- 2:10:18just about all of them are blinded by the present, the present they
- 2:10:22see before them, and completely unconcerned about the solutions they could attempt. As
- 2:10:26I've suggested more than once, get government out of marriage, family and children.
- 2:10:30It bothers me so much that most of the rhetoric is instead about how
- 2:10:33to keep the most government we can. That gives me a headache. Yeah,
- 2:10:37you know who've talked about that is is Rachel Wilson. She's talked about
- 2:10:41marriage being solely a church thing and getting the government out of it and making
- 2:10:46it. I forget why she said it, but like you know, essentially
- 2:10:50a specific kind of union. And I'm inclined to agree. But okay,
- 2:10:54let me play the go back to the what Laurence, So I think we
- 2:10:58got the sense of what this is the high IQ right wing we're promoting right
- 2:11:03now? His name is cat turd. Nobody's promoting that. I mean,
- 2:11:07if somebody tweets a lot and they get a lot of like engagement, and
- 2:11:11you give it to them. That's I guess that's promoting. But like I
- 2:11:13post on Twitter, why don't you retweet me? Lauren Southern? My comments
- 2:11:18are not that like Edgy Oh, I guess I made that one. But
- 2:11:22like otherwise, no, we're supposed to be okay your comment. Do you
- 2:11:28want it both ways? Because it's factually true. If you believe, yeah,
- 2:11:33men are the alphone omega of society, then men the situation of women
- 2:11:37are is entirely on the behest of men. So you can't have it both
- 2:11:41ways. You can't say that men are ultimately responsible for oppression and say that
- 2:11:46everywhere that feminism isn't men oppress women. It's not like feminism has this magical
- 2:11:52army, you know, like they've they've they've conquered men through their military might.
- 2:11:56That's bullshit. Feminism back just asked, and then men were like,
- 2:12:01okay, I mean, what do you what is what's Catter's supposed to do?
- 2:12:05Is he supposed to solve her problems with a tweet? Like? Is
- 2:12:09he supposed to tell? Yeah, like what men call the cat turd is
- 2:12:13supposed to be nice? Let me finish. But the thing is that if
- 2:12:16you accept the premise of male oppression. Then the situation of women is entirely
- 2:12:22at the forbearance of men, period, and you cannot get away from that.
- 2:12:28Mm hmm. That is That is the implication. I don't agree with
- 2:12:31it, but that's the implication of that framework. So everybody who's pissed off
- 2:12:35at your tweet, get pissed off at the framework. Noah Messenger, Okay,
- 2:12:41let's keep going. All right, I got a super chat from Albernata
- 2:12:43Retro for two dollars cana. He says, cruel, cruel, cruel,
- 2:12:46catch up women most affected? All right, let's pay more than When I
- 2:12:50was growing up, right wing ideals used to be pretty simple. Family,
- 2:12:56faith, church, chivalry, respect, community. We used to love vast
- 2:13:01societies where women couldn't vote or get educated. And now these influencers see that
- 2:13:05shit and think, yes, perfect Burker's for everyone. Multiple wives, all
- 2:13:13of them illiterate. I don't want to be able to have a conversation.
- 2:13:15Let me tell you something, Larren, Okay, this is what has happened.
- 2:13:20Right. You have alienated your men, you do not find them attractive.
- 2:13:26You make women have like the predominant message, and you cannot get away
- 2:13:30from this. This is the predominant message that Western women give Western men that
- 2:13:35they are undesirable, that they are hateful, that they are oppressive, that
- 2:13:39they're abusive, that they don't make enough, that they're bad in bed,
- 2:13:45that they're poor mates, that they steal from them, that they're thieves,
- 2:13:50and that everything that a woman does for a man is something onerous that she
- 2:13:56shouldn't have to and that relationships are zero sum game in which you're trying to
- 2:14:00smash and grab as quick as you can. This is the overwhelming message.
- 2:14:05And I can tell you that this is the overwhelming message because think about how
- 2:14:09many times men women have said, No, men are actually valuable. We
- 2:14:13should feel grateful for them, We should recognize the things that they have contributed
- 2:14:18to decide. You almost never hear a message like that. Right, women
- 2:14:22have constructed the alienation that western young Western men feel, and now you're importing
- 2:14:28a culture that to some degree has some amount of respect for men. I
- 2:14:35mean, I would argue it's illusionary and it's minimal at the end of the
- 2:14:41day, because if one man wins two wives, then another man goes without,
- 2:14:48so you got some of the same problems. But it's not like they're
- 2:14:50not seeing polygamy will play out in their own lives, which with the top
- 2:14:56five percent of men having however many baby mamas. Okay, I mean it.
- 2:15:01Basically, we've become inured to all of the things we used to say
- 2:15:05were immoral about let's call it Islam. Right Now we have to be okay
- 2:15:11with women with ten women and one man. Now we have to be okay
- 2:15:16with single mothers. Now, we have to be okay with the successive violence
- 2:15:20and all this other shit. And then you have this group of men of
- 2:15:24young men who are completely disenfranchised from this society. They're not told that they're
- 2:15:28a benefit to that society. And they have this other group, this olo
- 2:15:31cultural group coming in that actually at least still gives men a place. What
- 2:15:35do you think is going to happen? Friend, what do you think is
- 2:15:39going to happen? Yeah? You constructed this, just like the media constructed
- 2:15:43Andrew Tate. You guys constructed this, and you continue to do it,
- 2:15:48yep, and you perpetuate it because you keep on talking about guys like Andrew
- 2:15:52Tate and fresh and fit and keep them relevant and then you make them into
- 2:15:56what we like, what we've been doing for ten years so you participate in
- 2:16:00it because it boosts your views and your numbers, instead of like actually wanting
- 2:16:05to address the issue by saying, you know, I know some people that
- 2:16:09talk about this for a long time and and they're you know, they don't
- 2:16:13do any of this other shit. Okay, that's the thing. Like you
- 2:16:16could just address men's issues. You could actually tell these young men, yes,
- 2:16:22you are critically important to society. Yes, society did expect you to
- 2:16:28sacrifice in the past. Yes, you should get services when you need them.
- 2:16:31You should have a place to pick yourself back up that isn't trying to
- 2:16:37kick you down again constantly. You know, you should feel like you're cared
- 2:16:41about, You should feel like you're value. You could do this, you
- 2:16:46know, you could approach the situation the way we do and actually correct the
- 2:16:54alienation that men feel in their own culture. But instead, apparently we're complaining
- 2:17:01about cat turns. Mean tweet helpful, let's love it. And the reason
- 2:17:07our society is better and why myself and so many others defended the West back
- 2:17:13in the day is because everyone was educated. Men and women. Women literally
- 2:17:18educate our children. We get dumber men when women aren't educated. And this
- 2:17:24is the reason everyone wants to come to our society. Actually, the education
- 2:17:28has been a fucking disaster, especially for men. And what are you even
- 2:17:35talking about traditional And yes, women are doing the educating and they're educating men
- 2:17:41terribly. Traditional families, traditional Muslim communities also have an emphasis on education.
- 2:17:48In fact, when I was doing some of the undergraduate work in computer science,
- 2:17:56I didn't take an undergraduate in computer science, but I was in the
- 2:17:58area. All of the women who are in computer science were Muslim, Indian,
- 2:18:03or East Asian except for like maybe a handful. Right, These cultures
- 2:18:11put a priority on women's education because they want their daughters to get good jobs,
- 2:18:16which is why the gender paradox exists. For whatever reason, in cultures
- 2:18:22that want just want to indulge whatever their girls want. They don't think that
- 2:18:28their girls have responsibilities to their families. Those girls don't take the hard sciences
- 2:18:33like literally, you say that our culture is a culture of education, But
- 2:18:37these cultures that you deride, they're getting more educated, and they're more educated
- 2:18:43in things that matter. Right, Okay, so yeah, I really don't
- 2:18:50think you can blow that smoke up or ass anymore because it is more intelligent,
- 2:18:54more literate people are more capable of engaging and building community. Women and
- 2:19:00men who are higher educated way less likely to divorce, way less likely,
- 2:19:05and that family unit so integral. And yet we want to go back in
- 2:19:09time instead, go back to the Stone Age, to the values of the
- 2:19:11people who are literally escaping those countries to come here because it's created such shit
- 2:19:16cultures. And listen, I get it. Feminists. Back in twenty fifteen,
- 2:19:20twenty sixteen, that shit gone. They were doing stuff like this.
- 2:19:26How did were Oh? Oh, I see, We're not doing the feminism
- 2:19:33thing anymore. That's so twenty sixteen, right, guys, so out of
- 2:19:35fashion. We're doing some different shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the
- 2:19:39relationship between men and women. Now, why young men are completely alienated from
- 2:19:46Western society. Why is it that they're turning to Islam for values? Like
- 2:19:50why would they be doing They must just be because nothing to do with women,
- 2:19:56women telling men that they're oppressing them in westerns societies. And basically,
- 2:20:01no, it has nothing to do with women challenging the very nature of anything
- 2:20:07that men benefit Western society at all, that men make any sacrifice, that
- 2:20:11men are worth anything in the West, like West, it can't have anything
- 2:20:16to do with Western women presenting this idea that Western men are worthless. That
- 2:20:20can't have anything to do with why Western men feel alienated like feminism. Oh
- 2:20:24no, we can't possibly be the problem. Nope, they just I don't
- 2:20:28know. I guess red pill bros. Just woke up one day and said,
- 2:20:31you know, I just feel like being a dick. Yeah, okay,
- 2:20:39it doesn't feel to be the same sex as Donald. Do you ever
- 2:20:41get tired of trying to be manly all the time? I love the man's
- 2:20:45flining. I'm enjoying it. You loving what the man's flining that's going on
- 2:20:48there. I was thinking it was just me that had a problem, But
- 2:20:52it turns out it's the air conditioning a sexist I know so many women in
- 2:20:56our office have the exact same problem. Man spreading is when a man spreads
- 2:21:01his physical body to take up as much space as humanly possible. I was
- 2:21:07on the forefront criticized, right, No you weren't. I like how these
- 2:21:11are like the issues that we thought were like the top Yeah, you know,
- 2:21:16okay, I got to get in on this because this really pisses me
- 2:21:20off. Yeah, those are the top issues. Lauren. Not the fact
- 2:21:22that feminists are blocking men's services when they experienced domestic violence and rape. Those
- 2:21:30are the main issues, Not the fact that feminists blocked initiatives for shared oh
- 2:21:35wait, shared custody. I guess she's not good. Before that shared custody
- 2:21:39between men and women, feminists did that. They stopped a shared custody initiative
- 2:21:43that was headed by women. We talked to the woman who headed that.
- 2:21:48We talked to the men who is single handedly bringing services to men to Canada
- 2:21:54and is being stonewalled by feminist bureaucrats. All right, I've talked to men
- 2:21:58who have tried to put on just group help, group help events for men
- 2:22:05who experienced sexual abuse, who are shut down by feminists. I didn't talk
- 2:22:11to it. And I think my husband actually talked to Earl Silverman who was
- 2:22:15trying who had like the only shelter for men, and he it was shut
- 2:22:20well, he couldn't continue to pay for it because he was stonewalled, just
- 2:22:24like Justin Trotier's being right now and he had to shut his doors down and
- 2:22:30he killed him and then he killed himself like this, There is so much
- 2:22:33more than air conditioning is sexist Now that's the fun stuff that brings the eyeballs.
- 2:22:39But eventually you have to bring up the hard stuff, which is that
- 2:22:43society doesn't seem to give a crap about when men when they could use a
- 2:22:48hand. Right, and furthermore, this all this other stuff. Yeah,
- 2:22:54not only does our society not a give a crap about men when they could
- 2:22:56use a hand, it's actually at them with all of this this overt feminist
- 2:23:03stuff, right, it's saying that they're worthless. They're active not not just
- 2:23:09worthless, they're actively harmful to women in society. All right, this is
- 2:23:15not stopped, Yeah, because you've decided it's no longer convenient to talk about
- 2:23:20it. Yeah, this is not like a trend like, this is not
- 2:23:26something that is in and out of fashion. Well whatever, whatever, Okay,
- 2:23:30so I got a rumble rant I should read thank you Noba fan for
- 2:23:33telling me Lauren Southern recent feminism may have been cringe, but second wave man
- 2:23:39hating and first wave firebombing feminists have entered the chat or history classes have all
- 2:23:43failed her. Lmao. Well there's like this thing where it's like, well,
- 2:23:46I'm not talking about that anymore, and now I'm especially not talking about
- 2:23:50it because like the red piel Bros. Or whatever have taken over like the
- 2:23:54discourse, but they haven't taken over the discourse. Like we've been here steadily
- 2:24:00creating content every fucking day for ten years, and like you know, there
- 2:24:07are plenty of other people still doing the work. Janis Fiamngo is still out
- 2:24:09there doing the work. Paul Elam just announced he's gonna be starting a podcast.
- 2:24:13All these people that could you could be talking about. But you see,
- 2:24:16because their channels are small, they're not gonna they don't get your attention,
- 2:24:22so then then you don't give them attention. Therefore, you get to
- 2:24:26decide what gets the attention. And we've already said that, you know,
- 2:24:31this is only going to get worse if we don't address it. We've been
- 2:24:33saying it for years, and now you know that the fresh and Fits and
- 2:24:39the Andrew Tates are the ones getting all the eyeballs on them. You're those
- 2:24:43are the wor we're saying, yeah, that's the worst that it is.
- 2:24:46And you're basically like, well, we need to stop this right now.
- 2:24:48And it's like, well, sure, but like how about I don't know,
- 2:24:52maybe you don't go after the people who are like the top, especially
- 2:24:56when you know us. You you slept on Karen's count wh you slept on
- 2:25:01Karen's couch when you were at that march that you showed a clip from,
- 2:25:07so you know us, right, I mean, and now you're worried because
- 2:25:11a few guys. I'm sorry, but there's gonna be more angry young men
- 2:25:16and they're gonna be venting on the internet, and like that's what you should
- 2:25:18be you, yeah, exactly, Why wouldn't they? I don't have a
- 2:25:20problem with that. I'm just saying, like, here's the thing. Why
- 2:25:22wouldn't they? We live in a society which will not address their issues when
- 2:25:28they have needs and also marginalizes them as worthless. Why wouldn't they be angry?
- 2:25:35And you just keep doing it, and you're gonna keep ignoring it.
- 2:25:39You're gonna keep looking at the symptoms of it and saying, oh, well,
- 2:25:43how dare well, yeah, it's oh god, it defeats me.
- 2:25:48Okay, let's keep going. All right, all right, well, I
- 2:25:52got another super chow or chat. I already read that one right to Laurence
- 2:25:56Sun is a new Tommy Lauren for two dollars Canadian Actually Tommy Lawrence on is
- 2:26:00bad because I knew what she was about from the get go. Richard Pierre
- 2:26:05gives us five and says, wouldn't you rather be responding to either Manifestel or
- 2:26:09Hannah Cox at this point? Well, I mean, I think it's important
- 2:26:11to respond to this. So Manifestell just hates men, and Hannah Cox is
- 2:26:16just like a different brain of chameleon. All right, anyway, let's go,
- 2:26:20Let's continue that absurdity. And it was absurdity, but really, in
- 2:26:24response to this, do you have to go and become barbarians? Listen,
- 2:26:30the left imported all of this. I don't want to hear a peep a
- 2:26:33bill peep from them about the sexism of young British boys. They did this,
- 2:26:37and now you've got all of these new influencers on the right that say
- 2:26:43I've changed. That's okay. Can I just know? Can I just I
- 2:26:46just want to no, no, no, no, I want to address
- 2:26:48this. The left didn't do this to import this, and the right is
- 2:26:52not the response to this. Will men did this? Men not responding to
- 2:26:58it. I'm tired of saying left and right we're looking at women's behavior unchecked
- 2:27:05and men just trying to like cope with it. That's what it is.
- 2:27:09Lauren Southern is proving it right now with her reaction. She is demonstrating it.
- 2:27:15This is not a left and right thing. This is a woman thing
- 2:27:18and a man thing, and you have to look at it for what it
- 2:27:20is, because we have to keep pretending that there are these fucking factions when
- 2:27:24it's not that. Okay. It's basically a society where almost everybody is either
- 2:27:30feminist to some degree or a little guide eccentric, and the women especially so,
- 2:27:35and the men are just like, what the fuck is going on?
- 2:27:37Meanwhile, there are other men who are like, we've taken care of this
- 2:27:39in our country. We're gonna come over to your country and change it.
- 2:27:43That's what it is. Okay, It's not left and right. Stop stop
- 2:27:48with this both sides bullshit. I'm exhausted from it. It is not true
- 2:27:54who it's not though. This is like it's so we're talking in circles for
- 2:28:01nothing, okay. And then then Lauren Southern, it's like I'm floating above
- 2:28:05all of it. That's the bullshit part. Oh look these look at this.
- 2:28:09The Team A is terrible. Team B is just as bad. But
- 2:28:13not me. I'm floating above all of it. No you're not. You're
- 2:28:16a woman too, and you're participating in it, just trying to avoid accountability.
- 2:28:24You did this. You did this like every person that you chose to
- 2:28:30give attention to and chose to ignore, fed into this. So whoever you
- 2:28:35chose to talk about, whatever topics you chose to talk about, like whatever
- 2:28:39risks were to your career, you chose that. Okay, so you did
- 2:28:45participate, yes, And I don't want to watch this anymore. I don't
- 2:28:50think there's anything worth watching about this further. But I just want to point
- 2:28:54out that she is handwaving. She wasn't the target of this. Men were
- 2:29:03Men were the target of all of this. And she's saying, well,
- 2:29:07well this was terrible, like look at all this crap that women did.
- 2:29:11Oh well, but you know, you shouldn't become barbarians. In response,
- 2:29:16yeah, Nick, you know what, you should thank the ones that actually
- 2:29:20are talking. Yeah, a much larger undertow of men who are simply just
- 2:29:26fading away. They're just and even larger men who are simply going completely into
- 2:29:35a comatose state. Just just quit it. Just quit this fucking this video.
- 2:29:39We're not we're not responding any further. I won't know if there's like
- 2:29:43anything, but the thing is that they she was not the target. She
- 2:29:48doesn't have the right to say, oh, this is this is irrelevant.
- 2:29:52Now boys are still being targeted by this, like there's still being a abused
- 2:30:01and our society doesn't give a crap about the fact that they are being abused
- 2:30:05by these narratives. Mm hm. They're being abused to a state of like
- 2:30:11trauma. And then she comes along and she say, yeah, that's not
- 2:30:15relevant. It is still relevant. Like how dare you say, well,
- 2:30:20yeah, sure, you guys were abused, but could you just keep it
- 2:30:24down? Like yeah, yeah, Like how dare you? How dare you
- 2:30:31say this? Okay, I'm you know what, There's another thing I wanted
- 2:30:39to mention, Scott Adams said, I can't find his tweet, but he
- 2:30:46did say something a while back where on Twitter where he said women voted for
- 2:30:52open borders policies as a mating strategy for progressive women to get closer to reproductive
- 2:30:58success. And at first I thought, man, that's kind of ridiculous.
- 2:31:05Now I think I get it. I think that's right. I think that
- 2:31:09women overwhelmingly supported it because they wanted to increase the pool of men that they
- 2:31:15could choose to reproduce with, and now that it's happening, they don't want
- 2:31:20to admit it, and I wouldn't be so I don't know if Lauren Souther
- 2:31:24is one of those people, but I think that it is entirely possible since
- 2:31:28it is overwhelmingly women that voted this way and continue to vote this way,
- 2:31:33and they're okay with voting this country into oblivion just to spite the men who
- 2:31:37live here. She doesn't care. She doesn't care about the fact that this
- 2:31:41pain is continuing. Yeah, I don't stop. Not only does it well
- 2:31:45because Kat said something mean on Twitter? This not only does this society not
- 2:31:50care about men when they're sexually assaulted, not care about men when they experienced
- 2:31:54domestic violence, not care about men when they're suicidal, when they're losing their
- 2:31:56children, all of these basic problems and issues that we've talked about for years.
- 2:32:01Society is also constantly telling men that they're worthless or worse than worthless,
- 2:32:07that they're oppressive, and she doesn't care at all about it. What the
- 2:32:16problem is that cat turd made a snide tweet or that any of these red
- 2:32:20pill bros do anything that they do, like, honestly, think about it.
- 2:32:24The society is pathologically incapable of even recognizing that what men are doing for
- 2:32:31it, you know. And you see women continuing to reframe things only in
- 2:32:37terms of their own issues, Like a man lies dead in the street and
- 2:32:43they are complaining about their pumps getting blood on them, Like that's what I
- 2:32:46see. I mean, she's doing it right here. Everything is just reframed
- 2:32:50in terms of her own emotions, Like it doesn't you would sacrifice all of
- 2:32:56the men in your society because you feel bad about something. Right, you're
- 2:33:01doing it right now. You are ignoring, You're you are minimizing the harms
- 2:33:05being done to boison men by these narratives. You're saying, Oh, it
- 2:33:09was bad back then, because it was. I thought it was ridiculous.
- 2:33:13But it's not serving me now to say that it's bad now. I want
- 2:33:16you guys to do shut up or do whatever. Like everything comes back to
- 2:33:20your emotions. I'm pretty sure cat turn isn't standing behind you with a gun.
- 2:33:26Like everything comes back to how you feel. And men are sacrificed for
- 2:33:30that. And men see that and they say repeal the nineteenth because the voting
- 2:33:37majority does not give a crap about them and continually continually like you, women
- 2:33:46don't give a crap, so don't give a crap about men that if a
- 2:33:48woman does, they attempt to destroy her socially, Like this is I am
- 2:33:58feeling something very nice and I don't want to feel it anymore. So I
- 2:34:01am saying that you can continue this video, Brian, No, I'm done.
- 2:34:07I'm done. I don't think there's anything else. I don't want to
- 2:34:09say. We can quit, get rid of the image, please, okay,
- 2:34:15just take it away. I don't want to look at it. We
- 2:34:20need something positive, so we need to look at something positive. Are you
- 2:34:26going to send me something? Yeah, I don't have anything handy. I'm
- 2:34:31going to send you something. I don't know. It's a little thing.
- 2:34:33I think it ties into what I was saying. I mean, every society
- 2:34:37has its mythology of why and when to sacrifice men. This one, I
- 2:34:41guess, has just perfected it. Here. I'd sent you a link.
- 2:34:45You can take a look, you can read that. We'll just end it.
- 2:34:48It's a little sad but also beautiful, so that's probably a good place
- 2:34:52to end it. This is what men really are. Do you have a
- 2:34:56picture? Yeah. Nineteen thirty two, Marines Argent Frank Pray tour nurses his
- 2:35:01newly adopted kitten named miss Hap Oh I get it with a medicine dropper during
- 2:35:07the Korean War. Explaining her name, he said that he named her Mishap
- 2:35:11because she was born at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mishap survived
- 2:35:15the war was adopted by another marine, who brought her to the US upon
- 2:35:18his return. Yeah, this is this is this is the sex. This
- 2:35:26is the gener that you know. They're oppressing this right, they oppress women.
- 2:35:31They're the worst. Yeah. Our society doesn't deserve its men, Lauren
- 2:35:39Southern doesn't deserve this society's men. The predominant activity that men are doing in
- 2:35:46our society is to continue to maintain it, despite the fact that all of
- 2:35:52its institutions, all of its mythmaking institutions, are absolutely infected by this narrative
- 2:35:58that men oppressed women, that that that's their primary contribution to society, when
- 2:36:03in fact, their primary contribution is to build it. Build a society in
- 2:36:07which a woman can complain about working forty hours a week. Mm hmm.
- 2:36:13Yeah, Okay, all right, I think that's good. I just want
- 2:36:18to remind everyone we are doing our monthly fundraiser. We do exist because you
- 2:36:22have helped us to exist this long. So thank you to everybody throughout the
- 2:36:26years who've supported us. I know it can be sometimes frustrating because this fight
- 2:36:31seems like it's never ending, but we know what we know and that can't
- 2:36:37change. And until the rest of our society realizes that it's got to contend
- 2:36:43with this message that men oppress women, that's the only way forward. We
- 2:36:48have to get rid of it. We have to stop harming our men with
- 2:36:52it. Right. We have to be responsible, and we have to we
- 2:36:58have to live up. We have to Society itself has to be worthy of
- 2:37:01its men, and we are not. Okay, until that the society faces
- 2:37:09this message and gets rid of it, we're going to be dealing with the
- 2:37:13fallout. And the fallout is going to be a hell of a lot worse
- 2:37:16than a snide tweet by cat Turn on Twitter or Andrew Tates fans. Okay,
- 2:37:24and it's not even going to come from men wanting to harm women or
- 2:37:28wanting to oppress women. It's going to come from men being so damaged by
- 2:37:33what they have to endure that they can no longer do the work to keep
- 2:37:37society running. Right, That's where it's going to come from. And this
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- 2:38:13world. It's a very important one and it seems like very few people can
- 2:38:20really really understand it and really get behind it. All Right, there you
- 2:38:26go, Brian, all right, do you have any thank yous? Or
- 2:38:30no? Oh yes, I guess yep, we have two thank yous?
- 2:38:33All right, Sorry, guys, this is just bumming me out because you're
- 2:38:39right, all right, she's still young, but go ahead. He gives
- 2:38:43us twenty five dollars. Thank you, Greg see, thank you, thank
- 2:38:46you. Come again, and there was another one. I just have to
- 2:38:56get to it. Okay, it just takes a moment because it's a little
- 2:39:01bit laggy. I see. Okay, Damon gives us. Damon J gives
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