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Jaguars Happy Hour | Jaguars OTAs Week 1 in the Books · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May twenty eight. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 2: And now the SouthEast's largest distributor of domestic seed oils
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  Speaker 2: o KP.
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  Speaker 1: Not to Nashville anymore, apparently welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hondai Studios at
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  Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center. Test Drive a Hunday today only
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  Speaker 3: at your local Hundai dealer.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Phase three is here organized team activities the Jaguars on
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  Speaker 3: the field this week with helmets on. We'll get into
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  Speaker 3: some of the open practice from the other day. We'll
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  Speaker 3: hear from Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence after the first
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  Speaker 3: day of OTA's earlier this week. Also Travis Hunter with
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  Speaker 3: a media event this week talking.
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  Speaker 1: Little football as well.
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  Speaker 3: We'll hear from the two way player for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: and what he's been doing and what he's doing now
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  Speaker 3: in the off season. Still not out there at all,
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  Speaker 3: really kind of limited this offseason, and we're closing into
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  Speaker 3: manatory mini camp a couple of weeks away for the
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  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. It's all coming up on ten text, LA, M, Jaguars,
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  Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP Shadwick with Jeff Lockaman.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, afternoon, JP. It's beautiful day, is it?
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  Speaker 3: Hoarding?
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  Speaker 1: Ran out? So by the way for a duck? What
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  Speaker 1: is up with Robert solon the whole seed oil? That's
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  Speaker 1: what it is. It's it's like we've all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden designated any seed oil is bad and that maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's the reason why the Tennessee Titans were losing for
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  Speaker 1: so long. I don't know, maybe I don't know. Man
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  Speaker 1: kind of a weird deal. Yeah, never mind, they traded
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  Speaker 1: other players away and didn't resign guys. Oh and fired
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  Speaker 1: the coach. What happened to the old things? Everything's okay
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  Speaker 1: in moderation. I mean, let's not go over the top
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  Speaker 1: because seed oils. I mean, it is the latest craze.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get rid of them. They're bad. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things that are bad. I mean, come on, I
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  Speaker 1: saw that and I was like, are you kidding me? Really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna we're gonna make it a media
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  Speaker 1: highlight point that let's talk about because we banned seed
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  Speaker 1: oils in the facility. Yeah, anyway, anyhow, we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: that helps them on the field coming out. Did you
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  Speaker 1: have the same reaction as me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know what they are, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: really care. You don't know what they are, No, I
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  Speaker 3: just hope they lose every game for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 1: With you, I'm with you for other reasons. But that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we're all. They're just using beef tallow now,
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  Speaker 1: an animal product. By the way, beef tallow is really good.
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  Speaker 1: It makes French fries really chrisp by the way, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of because they're doing French fries. So
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  Speaker 1: let's have beef tallow French fries. I mean it's it's
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  Speaker 1: not the seed oil. Okay, it's French fries are okay
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  Speaker 1: for you because we're cooking, Okay, It's yeah, that's funny
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  Speaker 1: how that works. Hey, Phase threes here.
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  Speaker 3: Lugs OS Organized team activity started this week. There was
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  Speaker 3: an open practice earlier. The week helmets are on. They
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  Speaker 3: can do some team things. It's non contact. Seven on
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  Speaker 3: seven is allowed. Now, that's the biggest drill. Seven on
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  Speaker 3: seven Yeah, I mean, that's that's basically when you go
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  Speaker 3: to OTA's it's uh, the seven on seven period is
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  Speaker 3: the highlight. Those are the drills that you can actually
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  Speaker 3: glean something from the competitiveness of that of scheme identification
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  Speaker 3: adjustments routes. You know, you try to avoid any kind
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  Speaker 3: of contact that's unnecessary in that drill, but sometimes it's
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  Speaker 3: very hard to avoid that.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you see some teams end up getting fine
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  Speaker 1: for being a little bit too physical in those particular periods.
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  Speaker 1: And then the big guys, I mean, the big guys
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  Speaker 1: are kind of resigned to working on their own and
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  Speaker 1: footwork and placement, working against you know, each other, but
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  Speaker 1: not like offensive versus defensive lineman, on defensive lineman versus
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  Speaker 1: defensive lineman, and also on the sleds and the blocking
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  Speaker 1: dummies in the bags. Those are the things that really
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  Speaker 1: kind of get focused in on with the OTA number
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  Speaker 1: one and number two and all the way down the
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  Speaker 1: line with the big guys. But the seven on seven
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  Speaker 1: that's where it's happening.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of focus certainly on Trevor Lawrence taking another
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  Speaker 3: step year two in this offense, and he spoke after
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  Speaker 3: the practice earlier this week. You know, there's not a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot new to learn, it's more about refining what
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  Speaker 3: they've done already.
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  Speaker 4: The opportunity to focus on the details more than just
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  Speaker 4: absorbing like all the information and just trying to get
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  Speaker 4: it on tape and run in and then make you
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  Speaker 4: know all the corrections. Like last year, it's just a
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  Speaker 4: lot more to take in in your mind, is racing
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  Speaker 4: a little bit because you're thinking about a lot so
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  Speaker 4: this year to have the system down a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: guys that have played together. Obviously there's a few new pieces,
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  Speaker 4: but majority of us really know it. We can focus
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  Speaker 4: on talking about all the details of each rowe and
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  Speaker 4: how it's going to adjust versus certain coverages, and then
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  Speaker 4: also making tweaks to the concepts and the plays that
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  Speaker 4: we already have in Like we've had a handful of
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  Speaker 4: things where we've changed them from last year because running
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  Speaker 4: them a full season and seeing what we like, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: this would be better to add on the backside than
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  Speaker 4: what we were running. So being able to do stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that and just improve the offense, not just completely
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  Speaker 4: all right, just do the same thing, like trying to
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  Speaker 4: see what is better and making some tweaks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, make some tweaks.
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  Speaker 3: Good time to do it here on the practice field
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  Speaker 3: and OTAs maybe some routes could change a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: You can get the details of the connections and timing
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  Speaker 3: and things.
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is is that where Trevor's
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  Speaker 1: at now, the mind can work fast or through the
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  Speaker 1: play itself to be able to make quicker decisions. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you go back to last year and he's talking about
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  Speaker 1: last year and OTAs, and you know how much you
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  Speaker 1: got to think and you're trying to figure things out.
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  Speaker 1: Your mind obviously is going through a million different things.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that actually happened for him all the
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  Speaker 1: way until the midpoint to the season, and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden it just became second nature. You know,
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  Speaker 1: one of that I remember, just let it rip. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that whole moment that he discovered. Well, now that
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of passed that moment, now he can kind
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  Speaker 1: of enter into this ota of year two with a
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  Speaker 1: mind that's not trying to go through the progression. So
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  Speaker 1: he still has to go through the progression, but for example,
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  Speaker 1: let's say in point five seconds he goes through one
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  Speaker 1: progression from A to B. Well, in point five seconds,
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  Speaker 1: now he might go from A to B before the
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  Speaker 1: balls even snapped because he doesn't have to think about
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  Speaker 1: what the play is. And then he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: to C in the first point two five seconds and
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  Speaker 1: then from C to and beyond in that half a second. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the mind working faster for a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in the familiarity of it. I mean, it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why when Peyton Manning left the Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: Colts and went to Denver, the system went with him,
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  Speaker 1: the one that he knew, so that he could run
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  Speaker 1: it fast like he had done for so many years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Then. You know, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that Trevor's going to be Peyton Manning as far as
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  Speaker 1: the speed of the play and anticipation and all that,
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  Speaker 1: but I think all of that of what he gained
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  Speaker 1: last year under year one with Liam, and now Liam's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: now that we've got the basics, now we can go
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  Speaker 1: to the advanced classroom aspect of performance football and even
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  Speaker 1: take it beyond.
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  Speaker 3: And for the first time in and off season, they
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  Speaker 3: have Jakobe Myers here. He joined the team of course
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  Speaker 3: midseason a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Is total pro.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you get a full off season to really
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  Speaker 3: dig in with him too, well and watching him a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, you know, he's total pro. He works incredibly hard,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I think it's really good to have.
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  Speaker 3: Parker's still a young player, even though he's got a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years under his belt. Brian Thomas Junior is
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  Speaker 3: still a young player. Having a guy like Jacoby Kana
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  Speaker 3: there to show the way a little bit the work ethic,
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  Speaker 3: I think is really a big, strong positive for that
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  Speaker 3: room and also for I think for the whole team,
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  Speaker 3: just because I mean, when you see a veteran guy
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  Speaker 3: like that the way he works in practice, and trust me,
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  Speaker 3: you Coobe works incredibly hard in practice, it's impressive to
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  Speaker 3: see that kind of thing can rub off on other
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  Speaker 3: guys regardless of position. Got that you got some new
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  Speaker 3: tight ends to get into shape here going with the
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  Speaker 3: guys that are still around. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: options now in this offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, BS looks good, Brenton Strange, and I really like
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  Speaker 1: what the possibilities that are going to be there for
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  Speaker 1: him with the addition of Borkrashire, because Borkshire is more
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  Speaker 1: of an inline tight end. You know, everybody's talking about
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  Speaker 1: the multiple tight ends twelve and thirteen personnel, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: head coaches like Sean McVay and Liam com want to
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  Speaker 1: be able to run the multiple tight end situations, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it'll be interesting to see how defenses adjust
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  Speaker 1: to some of that as you go forward. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about the addition of Borkershire because I was
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  Speaker 1: impressed by watching his film and him being a true
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  Speaker 1: white time, and I think it opens up the possibilities
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  Speaker 1: for eighty five, you know, to allow him to do
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  Speaker 1: more things that are I think Brenton Strange type of things,
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  Speaker 1: instead of saying, look, he's our best blocking tight end,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep him on the line. Now he can be
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  Speaker 1: one of your best blocking tight ends and then let
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  Speaker 1: you can make you know, put him out in space
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  Speaker 1: and still have him blocking space to take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: what he does so well, but also his athleticism. You
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  Speaker 1: go back and you look at like Evan Ingram, right,
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  Speaker 1: who do you think had more yards after the catch?
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  Speaker 1: Evan Ingram when he had his thousand yard season or
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  Speaker 1: Brenton Strange last year. Well, I mean, since you're asking
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  Speaker 1: the question, it's probably it's brent Strange. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so he is such a threat once he gets the
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  Speaker 1: ball in his hands. It's not a catch and go
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  Speaker 1: down type of guy. So I want to see him
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  Speaker 1: get the ball in space and have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: do things with the ball in his hands because he's
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  Speaker 1: a special player. Yeah, that year for Evan was like
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  Speaker 1: a great year. But I mean a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of catches, you know. I mean, you know, there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of yards after catch, whereas Brenton Strange
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  Speaker 1: when he gets the ball. I mean, it's like you
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  Speaker 1: hold your breath a little bit because he's exciting to watch.
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  Speaker 1: He's powerful, he's a little evasive, and he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: an angry runner in a lot of ways, and it's
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, nine hundred and sixty three yards. I forget
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  Speaker 3: it was that many yards. It was pretty high. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know he's flirting with a thousand.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it's been a while, but a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. Yep, he was so good. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be fun to watch. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a mad scientist just got
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of new chemicals in the laboratory, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, I got this new tight end and this
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  Speaker 1: other new tight end, and I've got this great tight
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  Speaker 1: end already and Breton Strange. Let me invent the ways
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  Speaker 1: to use all of these guys, and especially the tight
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  Speaker 1: end number one, which is Breenton's Strange. Hands down, do
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  Speaker 1: not look directly into the flame from the laboratory down
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  Speaker 1: the hole. It's a lot going on, and look the
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  Speaker 1: same guy's doing it. Well. There's a lot of weapons,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you're going to have some tough decisions
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  Speaker 1: to make when you're going into the weekly game planning
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  Speaker 1: is to figure out who do we want to get
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  Speaker 1: the ball? I mean, look at the wide receiver group.
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  Speaker 1: We just mentioned three of them. We didn't even mention
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  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, you know, and he's one of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: that wide receiver that's a really good player. Him and
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  Speaker 1: the Parker Washington of course, I mean in that grew
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  Speaker 1: up and Thomas Junior, you know, putting an extra time
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  Speaker 1: with with Trevor. You can see that on the field.
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  Speaker 3: That's another one, right. We haven't really touched on a
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  Speaker 3: lot Ryan Thomas. Everybody was on him early last season.
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  Speaker 3: He got better as it went on.
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  Speaker 1: The conversation in the offseason is he going to get traded?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a possibility? Is it a chance? And I
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  Speaker 1: think all of that is, you know, obviously sailed down
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  Speaker 1: down the river quite a ways, and so now it's
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  Speaker 1: time just to play football. And I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: what Brian can do. But I want to see him
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  Speaker 1: get back to that swagger that he had his rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really feel that swagger from him
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  Speaker 1: last year, but when he plays the game with the swagger,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to stop him. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: was dominant his rookie year, but for him to be dominant,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to have that you can't stop me swagger.
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  Speaker 1: The same swagger that he displayed in his very first
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  Speaker 1: game going up against Jalen Ramsey and we all saw
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  Speaker 1: it and we were like, who's this guy right? Because
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  Speaker 1: he's been so quiet, and then we saw glimpses of
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  Speaker 1: that and moments of that all of his rookie year,
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  Speaker 1: and then last year with the injury, the struggling with
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  Speaker 1: the drops, we didn't see a lot of swagger. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think success builds confidence. Confidence builds success. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know which one is first, but you want
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  Speaker 1: to see that swagger out of Brian Toms Junior again,
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  Speaker 1: because if you see it hold on what name you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned there.
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  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter will return and hear from the wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: and cornerback about his off season so far and what
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  Speaker 3: part of the building he's been in the most besides
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  Speaker 3: the training room. That's all coming up to the next
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  Speaker 3: LAM Jaguars Dot Common Jaguars YouTube. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 5: Super important because I can't go outside and get log reps.
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  Speaker 5: So having that room, having them build a lot bigger
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  Speaker 5: than what I expected, is very great. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to every single day winner for about fifteen thirty
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  Speaker 5: minutes throughout the day just going to considers me burn
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  Speaker 5: out reps. You know, I could burn out thirty forty
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  Speaker 5: reps in fifteen minutes every time I go in there.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm going to just continue to try to build
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  Speaker 5: on my knowledge of football and continue to just work
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  Speaker 5: on offense and defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that room works both ways.
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  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter earlier this week had an event at a
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  Speaker 3: local Planet Fitness Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 3: from the Hundai Studios. Tend to next LAM Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 3: Com Jaguars YouTube. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. OTA's underway.
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  Speaker 3: Phase three of the off season program. About three weeks
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  Speaker 3: left until the dead period. Travis Hunter getting his work
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  Speaker 3: in coming off his knee injury from the middle of
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  Speaker 3: last season. He's limited in field work at the moment
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  Speaker 3: this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: No real need.
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  Speaker 3: He's on track and fine, but no real need to
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  Speaker 3: push him this time of year. Should be ready to
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  Speaker 3: go fully for training camp. But he's using this time
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  Speaker 3: as you heard him their logs in. Yeah, he's in
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  Speaker 3: the training room a lot. Yeah he's in meeting rooms sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: but he's in the walk through room downstairs. There used
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  Speaker 3: to be two of them, one for offense, one for defense.
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  Speaker 3: They've taken the wall out. Now it's one massive room
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  Speaker 3: downstairs where basically you can see the play in front
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  Speaker 3: of you in real time and then react. It's a
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  Speaker 3: deep enough room where you can drop and do everything
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  Speaker 3: you need to do defensively and start out routes and everything.
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  Speaker 3: So mental reps, Yeah, you want to have on field reps,
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  Speaker 3: but if you can't for whatever reason, they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: get it as close to reel as possible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, basically, I think the best way to describe
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  Speaker 1: it from the way I understand it, and I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to get a look at it and going to see
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  Speaker 1: if at some point I can get in there and
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  Speaker 1: see it. But it's a simulator. Just like airline pilots
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  Speaker 1: do simulators. This is a simulator for football players to
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  Speaker 1: where they can see kind of the vision of the
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  Speaker 1: field of where people are lining up, and then you
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  Speaker 1: can make adjustments and also some I think physical movements
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  Speaker 1: because you got enough room, as you were saying, it's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good sized room now that it's been opened up.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, those are great mental reps, and that's
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  Speaker 1: I think very valuable for him where he's at, especially
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  Speaker 1: with the medical condition and the limitations that he has
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get those mental reps because you
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  Speaker 1: never want younger players to miss the mental reps. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a great addition to the facility and
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  Speaker 1: a great addition for guys in the exact same position
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  Speaker 1: as Travis that where he's at right now, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to take advantage of other ways to improve and
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  Speaker 1: get experience. And let's be honest, first part of the
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  Speaker 1: season last year he needed some more of that because
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  Speaker 1: there were moments where he was lined up wrong or
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  Speaker 1: laid and I think you know, everybody learns differently. Some
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  Speaker 1: guys can and you know, once you show it to him,
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  Speaker 1: they've got it. And some guys are repetitions. They got
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  Speaker 1: to have reps. Some guys are visual, they want to
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  Speaker 1: see it on a board. Some guys got to walk
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: through and get it. And I think what we learned
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: last year is that Travis is a repetition's guy. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: that would be my estimation because the further he got
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: along in the season, the better he was getting, the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: more reps that he was getting sure, and so this
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: is a great opportunity to get the reps when you're
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: hurt and you're not out there on the field and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: being exposed to further injury or hurting something that needs
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Tom to heal both sides of the ball. You heard
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: him at the end of the clip there. That was
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: great line. That's not going away. The simulator is a
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: two way plan. It certainly is, as is Travis. So
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Hey a little more on defense. We've heard the GM
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: say it in public, the coach. I mean, they're not
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: shying away from it. They're going to lean a little
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: bit more on defense this time around, with some offense
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: mixed in there. It sounds like, well, I mean, we'll
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: find out I mean it's I think that's always going
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: to be a topic of conversation and something to watch,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: regardless of what the split ends up being or the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: percentages end up being. But watching the OTAs, I think
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the biggest adjustment for me was the numbers. You know,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: all these guys in the back end, the defensive backfield
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that have different numbers, is a little bit of a change.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Switched them up a little bit. And so some of
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the fans, you know, when they get the opportunity to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: see the mini camp or when they get the opportunity
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to see this team in preseason and in training camp,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit of an adjustment. Monteric
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Brown's wearing a different number, He's wearing number one, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Jari and Jones wearing number four. I mean, so it's
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be uh, it's gonna be interesting to see him.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I hope I don't make a mistake and can say
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that Tank Bigsby with an interception.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Right, that would be quite you know, quite an accomplishment. Yeah, yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: really would. But you mentioned mini camp. Yeah, Wednesday, June
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: tenth is going to be open to the public.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: How about that? I like it for free tickets though, right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's yeah, but I like it. I mean, look,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you have this beautiful facility here in the Miller Electric
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Center with great stands with the big fans and everything
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and shade, and I know there's a lot of construction
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: going on down here around the stadium, but uh, I
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: think it's a great opportunity for the fans to, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to get up close and personal and see their team
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and kind of in that in that mode of construction themselves.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: We mentioned Travis Hunter, he's one of the players that
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: was dinged up last year that they're kind of taking slow.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Cole Van Lannon another one who is limited in the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: off season program. Jordan Lewis another one. Cornerback veteran player
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: of course, hurt towards the end of last season, so
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: no real rush on some of these.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I was kind of chuckling this week, you know. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: obviously people can go to Jaguars dot com and watch
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: all the different interviews from Grant Yudinsky, the head coach,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, and Trevor and so I was watching the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: head coaches interview and he was asked by one of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the media members about one player's injury, and he said, yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: we'll put out an injury report at some point, which
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: is week one. It's a long way off. But he
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: kind of smiled when he said it so and it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was all in good fun. But I gotta chuckle out
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of that myself. You need them in September, not in May, right, Well,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, you'd like to have guys
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: available to practice this time of year. You know, it
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: helps them in the long run, and it helps your
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: team obviously in the long run, but you don't want
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to You want to gain the practice reps and having
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the player at risk of having a setback medically, and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the player enters training camp
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and he's at you know, at seventy percent instead of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: ninety eight percent which he could have been, just to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: get a few reps back in June. Look, you're not
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: winning any games in May and June. You're not. Okay,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you can build towards winning games, but you're actually not
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: keeping track and earning w's at this time of year.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So you got to kind of have a little bit
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of sense about you all and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: all that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I mean for years that we dominated the off season.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Long this team was nearly undefensive. Yeah, it's in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: off season.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: We uh, we won a lot of off seasons, JP,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we won a lot of drafts. We want a ton
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of free agency. They don't get banners for those, no, no,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, we had a there was a term
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: back in the day, and uh it was during the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: ot as. We would have guys that were designated all
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: duvall because they were I mean they were they were
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: amazing and in the off season, and then all of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a sudden you would get to the regular season and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: then you're like, where did they go or have.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: This massive training camp cap cap cappy all duvall didn't
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: make the team?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: No kind of what it is. I mean, so remember
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it's all about Sundays and Thursday nights and Mondays and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Saturdays and Wednesdays, depending on holidays, what you're playing. I mean,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, it's amazing how far the league has
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: just expanded to take an advantage of every possible date
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that there is. And I'm loving it. Man. The number
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of televised football that's going to be available this year
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: is going to be fantastic, it really is. Yeah, looking
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: for that. And the Jags will be in a lot
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of those in a lot of standalone games. Five digging
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: at the moment, could be more digging. That would be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: more at some point.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Let's come back plenty more about Phase three coming up.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: We've got mini camp in a couple of weeks. A
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: little later, we'll talk to computers, which is log's face.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Did you you got a category? U? What is it?
• 21:45
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• 21:52
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• 21:55
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• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I asked him he had a mic and he was
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: listening to the calls, and I'm like, dude, you want
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to jump on there. Don't you start talking, don't you?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: So it was great, you know. The virtual room sorry,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: has been really good for Travis to be able to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: go in there. We expanded that room downstairs to make
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it one big room, and man, you can go in
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: there and essentially play a game like almost like you
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: know from your from the defensive backs perspective, all you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: see is the linebackers, the D line, and the offense.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And so he can go in there in a half
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: hour and play a game and us go right now,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to get a ton
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: of all the routes and how they play out, but alignment, assignment,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: making calls, adjustments to formations has been so valuable to him.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Wi Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, discussing Travis Hunter and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: the walk Through Room. Welcome back, It is Jaguars Happy
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Hour from the Honday Studio, sint Xlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, Jeff, so you called it the Walkthrough Room. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: called it the simulator. What do you call it? He
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: called it the virtual Room. Okay, well there you go,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: three different names, right, but we all understand what it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: is at the end of the day. But it is
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. I'd like to see it, and I'd like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to see too how far it goes into play and
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: if you go back. And I don't know if you
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: remember this, but you'll see sometimes guys at practice and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars started doing this, but I remember other teams
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: doing this when they would practice with the Jaguars in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: training camp, and you would have somebody that was standing
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: behind their offence, okay, somebody from the video department, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: they had this stick and at the top of the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: stick was a camera and it was like a kind
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of like a wide angle shot camera, I'm guessing, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: so he was video in the perspective from behind and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: above the quarterback so that they could create that virtual
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: another film look from the perspective of the quarterback, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: so pretty unique stuff. And of course with computers and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: technology today, I mean, I'd love to be able to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: see the different advancements that they can make. I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you watch some of these golf tournaments and they go
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: this three hundred and sixty degree on the sky swing,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and they can do I'm sure some of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the similar type things. When it comes to football. You
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: do the tracker thing now for kicking, like they do
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: at the driving range. It's the same thing. They have
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a ball speed, spin speed trajectory where contact was made
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: on the ball to give you an estimation of how
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: far that ball would be good from.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: And he got GPS trackers in the practice jerseys. Now
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: you know how how far you've run, your miles per hour,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: all these.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Things, and that's actually how they have tracked. I mean
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you have sometimes and I remember talking to one of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the athletic trainers and you know, they had a player
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: one time and he was like, yeah, you know, I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: just I'm gassed. I need a break and I've been
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: running so much in practice. Well, the player didn't really
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: understand that he was on a GPS tracker, and so
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: they pulled up the data and he was like getting
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the least amount of distance out of anybody in his
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: position group. And they went to him and they said,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that's a bunch of BSS doing a lot of his
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: running after midnight. There was a bunch of running with
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: them out instead, you know, actually running with the legs.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And so they're like they showed him the data and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: he's like, okay, and obviously you had to get back
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to work. They'll break two miles after ten pm. Counter No,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it was a different kind of I think, yeah, that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a that's a different definition of run. Now, There's been
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: plenty of guys that have done that, and yeah, I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't one of them, and uh, but I knew a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: few of them that did, and they ran pretty hard.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Just watch the Dallas Cowboys Netflix documentary series that just
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: came out and so to Running after Midnight. Yeah, those
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: guys were Yeah, they could, they could play, they were
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: they were champions in more ways than One of the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: quotes from that was we played hard and then we
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: played hard. Yeah, it's kind of summed up. Yeah, There's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stories I had from way back
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: in the day, and I'll just I'll keep them. It's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a good idea. Yeah, good idea. Not for We'll do
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a podcast Protect the Innocent and on that one. Yeah, probably.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: So Hey.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: The Jags Foundation is hosting an intimate evening of community
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and conversation with the Sports and Culture Speakers series June third.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: You'll hear exclusive perspectives from Jags leadership from head coach
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: William Cohen and GM James Gladstone. They'll talk culture, leadership
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and building a lasting legacy on and off the field
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and be part of the conversation. Go to Jaguars dot
• 27:05
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• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Should be a fantastic night here at the Miller Electric Center.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: A chance to get in the building and take a
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: tour of the facility and have really direct access to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a Cohen and Gladstone coming up.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Well that's the one with Liam and James, but the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: one with Mark and Tony right, pretty good. Yeah, certainly
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: will be a fantastic night here at the Miller Electric Center.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Now Phase three continues. We talked a lot of offense
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: already logs, but you know what defense wins championships. Offense
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: sells tickets. This defense last year, of course, number one
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in the league against the run. They've got some notable
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: changes in personnel, especially at the linebacker position. Well, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not really a lot new. They didn't bring Devin Lloyd back.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So Ventrel Miller, who was a co starter at the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: beginning of the season, is.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: It his to lose or is this part? I think
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it's just like what Liam described the running back position
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: as the other day and he said, it's wide open,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and I believe the same thing applies to the linebacking group,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and that until you get to training camp, you're just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see, you know, because you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: now you're in shorts and T shirts and you're kind
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of running around. I mean, this is it's hard to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: simulate playing linebacker this time of year. Now you can
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: see how athletic they are, how they are in space, okay,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but playing linebacker is so much more than that. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: then to go back to Liam's description of why it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: hard to evaluate running backs until you get the pads on,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: because you don't know what their vision is going to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: be running with power, contact, balance, all those things that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you evaluate a running back on, well, they're the same
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: type of things you're evaluating a linebacker on. You know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: when things get loud, how is he going to do
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in the middle in dealing with the physical element of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the game. How's he going to do when all of
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden he's got to be in space and to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: be able to figure out when to be in space,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: when to read and drop as opposed to going forward.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You know, So there's a lot of things. So I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: think linebacker and running back are probably two of the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: most difficult positions besides offensive and defensive linemen of course,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to evaluate at this time of union, because you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: we always say with the lineman, you want to wait
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: until you get the pads on. Well, the next group
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that's hard to evaluate, I think is the linebackers and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the running backs. They're probably about equal when it comes
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to that evaluation with pads or without pass and the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: same thing to touch back on offensive quick You brought
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: up running back, and that's another one that's kind of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: up for grabs right now. I could be a well
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and I think that's a position group that multiple guys
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: are going to get placed on anyway, and I don't
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be one guy. And you know what, Hey,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the reality is is that the linebacking position may be
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: kind of some of the same roll them in there,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they might roll guys in there. And here's the other
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: thing we don't even think about, you know, because we
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: focus in on Devin Lloyd and he's off to Carolina
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and now you got to replace Devin Lloyd. And the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: first kind of motive thought is, well, you got to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: replace Devin Lloyd with another linebacker like body, right, like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: type player. Well, look, the reality is is that in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL today you can also do that with some
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: safety looks, you know, and playing multiple safeties. And the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Jaguars have been pretty good at doing some of that,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and uh, and I think there's a lot of guys
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that are candidates also when you talk about this the
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: linebacking position, because you know, look, uh, there's other guys
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that have a chance here in this group. You know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Branson Colmes a guy it's got a chance, you know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I know they liked how he played in Space last
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: year at time, so we'll see that's uh yeah, the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: weak side.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And then we talk about the strong side, right, which
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: is not used a lot because of the extra corner
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: sometimes takes that off the field.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: But I think you're you're good there. I mean they're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a good show. You know, you got the mad Man there.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I mean you're you're totally fine. The Undertaker. What are
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you call him now? Yeah? Look, I I like I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: like calling him that. You know, Look, I'll never I'll
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: never forget when gard X said that I love to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: let the game speak in violence. Yeah, and I was like,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I want him. I like that guy.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Give me him on my team. Uh is still around.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Syrub Dula is by the way, And I'm glad you
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: brought him up because I was going to bring him
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: up next. He is an excellent excellent special teams player.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And this is a guy that remember now, when he
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: was drafted, he was an edge player, hand on the ground,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: edge player. Yeah, I had like double digit sacks at
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Louisville kind of deal. Came here, made the transition to linebacker,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: hasn't seen the field a ton as a linebacker, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: his contributions on special teams, he might be one of
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: your your top three special teams players, top four special
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: team players on this football team if you look at
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: last year, and he got dinged up a little bit
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: which kind of slowed up his chances, but fast, physical,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and when he's played on defense, he's done a really
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: good job. I'm a big fan of him.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And then Jalen McLeod missed all of last season, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: what he can do. He's an athletic guy. Let's see it. Well,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: let's see it. And we don't know what that's going
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: to look like, you know.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of those Christmas presents, just like
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Caleb bran sawid we didn't get to open up last
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: year that we can't wait to see this year. True,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, we don't know what that's going
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to look like. But another way to it another reality,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this is how long in this guard deck? Now? Eight years?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Nine years? Yeah, he's right, he's right in that range.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Nine years career, right, He's overcome those He's still got juice.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He can play. But the question is going to be,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: all right, how long, like how long is this really
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: going to go for him? And the gonna Oh, he
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of miles on him, you know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you also have to factor that
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. I mean, yes, he's in year
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: nine and some guys have a lot of miles after
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: year nine, but he's he's a sam linebacker slash edge player,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and he plays a physical style of football. And I'd
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: have to look it up to see exactly the number
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of reps. But I mean he I don't think he
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: has a ton of reps compared to a lot of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: guys that have been playing nine years in a starting capacity.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, yeah, because he's always not concerned about,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you know, how old he is. He's still a young
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: player in my mind, good sub package guy. Yeah, yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: as much. Yeah, I mean look at sam linebacker position
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: might play thirty percent of the downs of defense, So
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: think about that. I mean, he's been a sam linebacker
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and then an edge player. I mean, so you're not
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: talking about a ton of reps that have been at
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: his disposal, and special teams has obviously supplemented the number
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: of snaps that he's gotten. But you know, turn to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: break all. Maybe I'll ask the computer, Oh, hey, good, idea,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: how many snaps is Dennis Gardek had in his career.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: It's a big test for the computer coming up. We'll
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: see I can keep up with you.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know another defensive player to keep an eye on,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: certainly Caleb Bransaw, who missed off of last season as well.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Talking about that secondary. They had high hopes for him
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: in training camp last year. He went down with the injury,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: missed the entire season. He's out there now.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It's fool go for him, and we'll see what they
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: have in mind for him. Where he's gonna line up.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think I think him, you know, just because the excitement.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: We didn't get to see him last year, and he
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: was pretty high pick where's he going to be at?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But also look, uh, you've got other guys back there,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and so you've got some numbers there and much like
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: last year when you had Murray and Dewey Wingard. You
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: were able to Antonio Johnson to kind of play guys
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: at different times based on personnel groupings, et cetera. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a lot of flexibility with the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: safeties that you currently have to play some in certain
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: packages based on Okay, well this personnel groupings a little
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: bit more run heavy, a little bit more physical, Well,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: we can play this guy in this kind of a role.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So I think there's some flexibility for your defense and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: with that position group once you get to those decisions
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: on how to address certain personnel groupings with your safeties.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Plenty ahead. We'll come back and talk to the computer.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: We've got multiple questions for it today, apparently one of
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: them about a quarterback. Another we'll see if they can
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: get snap counts for Dennis Gardak.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that right now. I'm gonna do it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: right now too. I see if it has the same answer.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: If it's a different answer, we got we got a problem.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah to next Lamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, It's Jaguars
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Happy Hour, Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Jeff Logan from the HOUNDAI Studios of the Miller Electric Center.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Ten to next Lamjaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. Time for
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Microsoft Copilot to answer a question.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: We have a.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Question about quarterback contract. Pretty simple one did that?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I gave it. It was an easy one. Of the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: terms of Trevor Lawrence's contract something interesting. Maybe you don't know.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: It was an extension with the Jaguars five years, two
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five million dollars.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: A deal makes it one of the highest paid players
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: in the NFL history. Check out Microsoft co Pilot four.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I questions easy and hard, all right, so I delved
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: into the uh ah, asking the computer some questions about
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Dennis Gardak. I like this, and how many snaps did
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: he have in his eight year career thus far? Because
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: he's entering year nine. The answer is three thousand, seven
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two snaps. Divide that by eight years,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy ballpark snaps a year, some more,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: some less because he had a couple of massive knee
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: injes right, right, there's you know, but on average, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I mean if you think about that, I mean on
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule, I mean that's that's not a ton
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of snaps a game. I mean, that's why I brought
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: up the point that he's a low mileage guy. That
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: there's some guys you look at and you say, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: know what, he's getting long in tooth, which means also
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in a different way that he's got a lot of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: mileage on them, whereas gar Deck is a Sam linebacker.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Sam's typically don't have a lot of miles on him,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: but he does have snaps from special teams which brings
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it up a little bit. But overall he's played every
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: special team. He's still a young player. He's just a
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: fantastic player, by the way, just the attitude, aggressiveness, physicality, everything.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I think. I think the players that you love. I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: think if you're a defensive coordinator, is that you love
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: players that can do different things while they're on the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: field because as a coordinator, it allows you to be
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: multiple and when I say multiple, and that you can
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: ask a linebacker to be a rusher or you can
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ask a safety to be a linebacker. That allows you
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to play different things that maybe are unexpected from a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: scheme standpoint, from the offenses perspective. And so Gardak, I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: think is one of those guys because he does have
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the ability to do other things than just play the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: sam line backing position. Yeah.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: A while ago, not long after he got in, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: was like, what's your favorite play? Like, what do you
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: like the most about playing and it doesn't happen anymore.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: He was like, kickoff coverage he loved, like running down
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the field and smashing somebody. Like that's what Now they
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: don't line up like that any No, but that was
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: his favorite. That tells you all you need to know
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: about Gardak. I mean, those guys are wired different.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I got to say that that was like my least
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: favorite play, right. He was like, I love it and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it starts the game and you can go make it okay,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: all right. My rookie year, I was asked to do that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I played on every special team and that was probably
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: my least favorite off coverage And I'll never forget. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: think it was Mosey to Tupou. We were playing the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and you know, I was one of
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: those guys and I'll run one hundred miles down the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: field and I'm not afraid of contact. But I just
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: didn't have the awareness that guys could come from way
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: over here and ear hole us so I'm running down
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the field and I'm just you know, JP, I'm gonna
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt somebody. Yeah, you know, here I go,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and all of the sudden, next thing I know, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: got clocked from the the ear hole and never saw
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it coming. And Mosey to Tupu, who uh thick running
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: back back up. You know, career special teamer was just
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: standing over me with the hit of his lifetime and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I was a dumb rookie that never saw it coming. Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: My least favorite play ever I had maybe in pro
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: football the issues and then down the field and Mosey
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to Tupu had cavs like Vince Man. I mean, you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: just these giant calf Thick. You know, he's a running back,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: but he probably went like two thirty five, two forty
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and he was you know, five to eleven somewhere right
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in that range and just crushed it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I would hope, though, that you learned your lesson. I
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: never got hit like that again.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I learned two lessons in football, okay, okay, And in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: college football got to go against some really good players.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Jim Dombrowski was the toughest one I had to do
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: an Oklahoma drill against Jim Dombrowski, who was an All
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: American offensive lineman, first round pick of the Saints and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six. So anyway, we were in a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: practice one day and in high school football, I we
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody ran pretty much sweeps and tosses and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: maybe a dive. I never saw a counter in my life. Okay,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So we had Barry Word. If you remember, he was
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the partner with Christian Nakoye back in the day with
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, Barry Word, Christian, we had Barry Word.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, we're running a nine on
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: seven drill and I take the fake on the counteraction,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: take a false step, like almost one and a half
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: false steps, planted, realized, oh, it's going the other way.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And as soon as I turned to go the other way,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: there was an offensive lineman and his name was John
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and he had a nickname trash Can Burns, and John
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: trash Can Burns came in and hit me in the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: ribs kind of like Tetupu did, Okay, but this was
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: on the left side, and he put his hands and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: just literally exploded through my ribs in my ear hole.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: And neck, and I was on the ground and John
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: was standing over me laughing, and I'm going I couldn't breathe.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: It's really two hard lessons in football. John trash Can
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Burns and Mosey to Tupu. It's not really the nickname.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: You want to mess with a guy named trash can.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: They called him John trash Can Burns. He had the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: body the shape of a trash can. Not there straight,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: there was no v there was no michelin man. It
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: was just straight. And he was thick and uh and yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: He also was involved in some trashy things.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: You know who was the garbage can nickname was Tom Maddie,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: the Baltimore Colts running back.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, back in the old days. Well year we talking,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that's way back sixties, right, yeah, and Tom day they're
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: always great. So I actually met Tom maddy here in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville at one of the places in San Marco, that
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: mutual friend kind of deal. And he was the first
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to wear which is common knowledge, but he's the first
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to wear the wristband with plays on it because he
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: had to fill in it quarterback. They were out of quarterbacks. Johnny,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you was hurt. Something was going on and so they
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: threw him in there with this handwritten play book and
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: it's in Can't and it's at the Hall of Fame.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: That's cool. The first one that is cool, the garbage camp,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the tom many crazy oh wow. Hey.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Phase three continues this week. One more practice tomorrow closed
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: to media, close to public. As we mentioned, the first
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: and only open a public practice this offseason program will
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: be June tenth, and it's a mandatory mini camp practice
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: and what was some special guests before, like we didn't
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: training camp last year. That's all coming up in a
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks. But all right, Phase three, first week,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: nearly done, and you know, the process continues, and this
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: has got to be I don't know how challenging is
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: this for a coaching staff going into year two knowing
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: they've had some success last year and they still they're
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: trying to take that next step and do something, especially
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: in the offensive side of the ball.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Well, it's both sides, it's everything. I think that's the Dutch.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: The challenge is consistently is consistency, because you know, are
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you going to be a flash in the pan, or
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: are you going to be a team that competes for
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: titles every year? You know, and that's what makes Mike
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Tomlin the Pittsburgh Steelers such a great football team because
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they've been able to have the consistency, and also the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots under Bill Belichick. I mean, that's what
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: everybody's striving to accomplish. And this Jaguars football team has
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: had moments and they're few and far between, though there's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: not been any consistency, you know, one year under Doug Peterson,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: one year under Doug Moron, just it was not lasting.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And so the challenge is always to challenge your players
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to take that next step. And the one thing about
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the NFL that is constant, it's changed, and if you're
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: resistant to it, I think you're going to struggle to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: find that consistency in winning. But you've got to be
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: able to embrace it. And I think that this staff
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: embraces it. And I think Liam does a great job
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: with coming up with new messaging to give the players
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: something to really focus in on and dial in on.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the solution. But it
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: also takes a lot of hard work and it's got
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to come a lot of times from within from the
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: player groups themselves. Because when you have great players, they
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: challenge the other ones that are around them to find
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: greatness as well. And so the Trevor Lawrence is the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: the Josh Heinz Allen, the tray Von Walkers. They need
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to be able to challenge their teammates to reach another
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: level and to challenge their team to get back to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that level that they were at last year, because it's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: not easy to do well.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And then you're not going to surprise anybody this year either.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, look, I.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Think in a lot of cases last year, you didn't
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: surprise anybody last year either, you know so, I mean,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: once you got to the second half of the football season,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you weren't surprising anybody. Everybody knew you were good, good,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: especially people out of here. Yeah, so I think early
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: in the season there might have been a little bit
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of some surprise, but I think this football team was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: on the map once they got to about week ten
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: or so, and when they went to Denver, everybody knew
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that this was a great matchup and the Jaguars were
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: a good football team, and they still took to Denver.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: It was amazing.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: After that Denver game, everybody kind of forgot about that
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Denver game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Nashley, like the Jack is such.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: A tough place to play Denver going into the playoffs,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: gonda be tough to go to Denver.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Jack just went to Denver and boat raced these guys.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Everybody forgot about that part well and and too bad
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that Jacks didn't get a chance to go do it again. Well,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and that's that's how you get remembered. That's a good, yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: point exact what the games, the games that are in
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's how you get remembered. Okay, having a
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: meaningful win in December is great for seeding and maybe
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: home field advantage, but the ones that are remembered are
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the ones that happened in January and in the February.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And you know this team is you know this, They
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: got a long road to get back to where they
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: were at and it's a completely different team and the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: work has to be put in. But the great thing
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: is is that there are some things to build on.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: There are some players that you can continue to build with,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of players that you have to
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: rebuild with in certain areas. And I think that's the
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: challenge also is to rebuild with the new, but then
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: also challenge the old to reach new levels, to take
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in another step further. And that's what I love about Liam.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And he always talks about players finding their edge. It's
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: all over the building too, on the walls and stuff.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: It's great messaging. I love it. He challenges players and
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that's I think Tom Coughlin, who's a Hall of Fame coach,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: was really good at that, you know. And he treated
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the superstars with just as much grit as he treated
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: some of the bottom of the roster guys, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to needle them and prod them and try to get
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: more out of them. And that's what made him such
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: a great coach. And you know, it can be accomplished
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in different ways, and his was just a little bit
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: more of a gruff way than Leon or than Liam.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, didn't that have Who's the gruffest coach today?
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: You think in the league?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know who'd qualify anymore. That's kind
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: of passed by.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's I mean, there's there's still some of that,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Like No, not Verbel because like her, I mean, if
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you ever talk to Mike, I mean, he's he's a
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: lot of fun to talk to. Me of one of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: my favorite guys and then had a tough offseason. Though. Yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: there's not like the old skill the one guy that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: kind of comes off as gruff, and most people don't
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: look at him as gruff. As the head coach in
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, he's this kind of m He looks so
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: young though that you look at him and you don't
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: think gruff. But when you watch his press conferences and
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: you hear him speak about the Jets coach, Aaron, Aaron's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: not no. No. Aaron had a couple moments of immaturity
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: this past year with sports writers, which you'll learn a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: lot from that. That's a that's a hard lesson to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: learn in New York, and that's one that I guarantee
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and I hope he's learned because if you don't learn
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that lesson quick in New York, you're not gonna last long.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: There's a difference between gruff and intense. Liam is not gruff,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: but he's very intense, but he.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Has to be sir. I think he's incredibly engaging and
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: very entertaining and sometimes gives you more than you ever
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: could have possibly imagined with his answers. And I love that,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Logs have a great week. Yah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: thank you. We'll see you next week for OTU. You
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Jeff Loghman, I'm JP Shaddicker. Thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brent Reabert,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: David Choe. Thanks to you for watching and listening. It's
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Shaguars Happy Hour.