Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Arthur Aidala | Defense Attorney | 07-09-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here he is author right, dollar Autie, Good morning, How
- 0:03Speaker 1: are you pal?
- 0:04Speaker 2: Good morning?
- 0:05Speaker 3: All right, I'm rehearsing Sid. How does this sound?
- 0:08Speaker 2: Folks? Back in nineteen eighty three, far down on the
- 0:11Speaker 2: heights called Dyker at poly Prep, no one thought we
- 0:14Speaker 2: would be here today to induct Sid Rosenberg into the
- 0:18Speaker 2: Radio Hall of Fame.
- 0:20Speaker 3: He was a skinny little kid who was in a
- 0:22Speaker 3: carpool with Bruce Sharratt.
- 0:24Speaker 2: And Joe Tacopina.
- 0:26Speaker 1: And by the way, don't forget George Small, don't be
- 0:28Speaker 1: get George Small.
- 0:29Speaker 2: And his trajectory was not on the path of being
- 0:33Speaker 2: in any hall of the fame, except maybe the kid
- 0:37Speaker 2: who failed out of school hall of Fame. And yet
- 0:40Speaker 2: here we are, all these years later, so proud of
- 0:44Speaker 2: one of Brooklyn's native son who have risen to the
- 0:47Speaker 2: pinnacle of his career. And we all stand and applaud
- 0:51Speaker 2: him and his entire family for reaching this achievement. Ladies
- 0:55Speaker 2: and gentlemen, the newest member to the New York Radio
- 0:58Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Sid Rosenberg.
- 1:00Speaker 1: How did I do? You're hired? Louisah done. That's it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: That was fantastic, I mean it, that was fantastic. Congratulations
- 1:09Speaker 1: oh look, how nice lit Look, who's not even man
- 1:13Speaker 1: nuts before we begin? When Sid comes over, hey, you
- 1:16Speaker 1: want to say if you weren't listen, Audi is in
- 1:19Speaker 1: that group of people who need to be considered. And
- 1:22Speaker 1: that really was excellent just now. But I'm not just
- 1:24Speaker 1: blowing smoke up your ress. I was great Takapina too,
- 1:27Speaker 1: both of you guys.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Well look it is true. You know I was right
- 1:32Speaker 2: behind you in terms of trajectories back in the nineteen eighties.
- 1:35Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well three of us, three of us,
- 1:38Speaker 1: I mean Aldi, To be honest, all three of us, me, you,
- 1:41Speaker 1: and Joseph, Me and Joseph were voted in the polyglot
- 1:44Speaker 1: least likely to succeed you are you as well? So
- 1:48Speaker 1: really all three of us have exceeded expectations.
- 1:51Speaker 2: You know. They canceled that whole thing back, I think
- 1:55Speaker 2: even right before I graduated, because they used to be
- 1:58Speaker 2: a category called asked Amazon.
- 2:01Speaker 3: And it hasn't think about how tides of change.
- 2:04Speaker 2: It had to do with the woman in the class
- 2:07Speaker 2: who was like the biggest, bulkiest woman and they voted
- 2:10Speaker 2: this girl and she was hysterically crying, and that was it.
- 2:14Speaker 2: The Prinson, the headmaster, you can't say headmaster. The head
- 2:16Speaker 2: of school said no, we're not doing that with anymore.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Those are the days. Said well, congratulations on it. When
- 2:25Speaker 2: you sent me the text that you were getting in,
- 2:27Speaker 2: I was like, right on, my man.
- 2:29Speaker 3: And uh, you know, it's going to be a wonderful.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Day for you and your family. I was blessed to
- 2:35Speaker 2: get the Bar Associations their their addition of the Hall
- 2:40Speaker 2: of Fame. And you'll see as much as you'll be
- 2:42Speaker 2: proud of yourself looking down at Abra and Gabriel and
- 2:46Speaker 2: you'll have to come up from Pennsylvania with her new school.
- 2:49Speaker 2: You know, that's what's going to make you proud because
- 2:50Speaker 2: your kids are going to be like, wow, look at this,
- 2:52Speaker 2: my dad's in the hall. That's that's cool stuff.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Thank you, And we do it all.
- 2:56Speaker 3: We do it all for them at.
- 2:57Speaker 2: This point, right we're on the way out. We're on
- 2:58Speaker 2: the back of the mind.
- 2:59Speaker 1: No, no, listen, there's no one back nine. I'm on thirteen. Wait,
- 3:03Speaker 1: pass back nine. I maybe on fourteen. And you're right,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and you're a great bother to And again, that was
- 3:08Speaker 1: awesome that little speech you just wrote impromptu. That was great.
- 3:11Speaker 1: But you talk about my daughter Ava and these days
- 3:14Speaker 1: you see my daughter as much as I do.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I'm sad, you know, she's splitting. I mean
- 3:20Speaker 2: she's going to such an unbelievable school. I mean it's
- 3:22Speaker 2: her top three, top top four law school. She's going
- 3:26Speaker 2: to get her Masters in law, which is a degree
- 3:29Speaker 2: higher than anyone you mentioned. I don't even think Dershowitz
- 3:32Speaker 2: has Masters in law. No tack of Peter and I
- 3:34Speaker 2: couldn't even spell masters, let alone achieve Masters in Law.
- 3:38Speaker 2: So heart trajectory, unlike ours is she's headed towards truds
- 3:44Speaker 2: the stars, and it's well well deserved that God she
- 3:48Speaker 2: has a mother's DNA.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Yes she does, no question about it. Gabriel too, he's honest,
- 3:52Speaker 1: way to doing special things. He's got not one, but
- 3:54Speaker 1: two amazing jobs this summer, both of which I'll share
- 3:59Speaker 1: at a later date. The great author, right, Donald, That's
- 4:01Speaker 1: been a tremendous first six minutes already. I gotta tell you,
- 4:04Speaker 1: let's get to some of these cases people want to
- 4:06Speaker 1: hear about. We got about seven minutes to go. Let's
- 4:08Speaker 1: start with Tyler Robinson. I did have my friend Donna
- 4:11Speaker 1: Rotuna on the show yesterday. You know, Donna very very well.
- 4:14Speaker 1: She's on Box News just about every day. She's live
- 4:17Speaker 1: in Provo, Utah, covering this Tyler Robinson Charlie Kirk case.
- 4:21Speaker 1: This is a preliminary hearing. They just want to make
- 4:23Speaker 1: sure there's enough evidence to charge this guy with murder.
- 4:27Speaker 1: And it seems to me you're got a layman. I'm
- 4:28Speaker 1: not an attorney. There's a ton of evidence to charge
- 4:32Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes.
- 4:35Speaker 2: The real question is why the prosecutor chose chose to
- 4:40Speaker 2: go this direction as opposed to what and they had
- 4:43Speaker 2: the option to what we do here in New York,
- 4:45Speaker 2: which is just have a grand jury. Now, in New York,
- 4:48Speaker 2: you could have a preliminary hearing that they'd doing, but
- 4:52Speaker 2: it almost never happens. It's always a secret thing behind
- 4:55Speaker 2: closed doors with the grand jury. And they could have
- 4:57Speaker 2: done that here. But I think what they wanted to
- 5:00Speaker 2: do was show the public, Look, this is the overwhelming
- 5:04Speaker 2: evidence we have against this guy, and it is a
- 5:08Speaker 2: way for the prosecutor to taint the jury pool, which
- 5:11Speaker 2: has been the defense attorney's objections. You know, you're putting
- 5:15Speaker 2: all of this evidence out there now, evidence, some of
- 5:18Speaker 2: it that would not be admitted in the trial. But
- 5:20Speaker 2: you're just showing Neil what an air tight case that
- 5:23Speaker 2: you have. So they've done something that would not be
- 5:26Speaker 2: done in our area here in terms of geographical area.
- 5:29Speaker 2: But they're letting you know, hey, we got materials with
- 5:33Speaker 2: his DNA on it. We have videos of him surveying
- 5:36Speaker 2: the campus before, we have evidence that he was at
- 5:38Speaker 2: the scene. We have statements from his roommate. I mean, ay, yes,
- 5:42Speaker 2: they have an absolute overwhelming case. It's probably going to
- 5:46Speaker 2: be up to and this is a guestimate Erica Kirk,
- 5:50Speaker 2: whether they actually seek the death penalty or they allow
- 5:54Speaker 2: him to plead to something where he would serve life
- 5:57Speaker 2: without paroles. Usually usually prosecute his offices, lean heavily into
- 6:03Speaker 2: the deceased family as to what their wishes are. And
- 6:07Speaker 2: I believe, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong. She's
- 6:09Speaker 2: already been out there in observing her faith saying like
- 6:14Speaker 2: she forgives him.
- 6:15Speaker 1: She did, she did, she did say that like the
- 6:18Speaker 1: day after he was murdered. And you know, you look
- 6:21Speaker 1: at Luigi Mangioni in New York and the Thompson family,
- 6:25Speaker 1: that nice guy who was murdered. That's what he was murdered.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Very cowardly, cold blood. Mangioni shot him from behind. They
- 6:32Speaker 1: won't have that opportunity here in New York. There'll be
- 6:35Speaker 1: no death penalty. They've lost that already. But now you've
- 6:37Speaker 1: got not one, but two cases. You got a state
- 6:40Speaker 1: case against Mangioni, you got a federal case against Mangioni.
- 6:45Speaker 1: There's no way this guy doesn't serve the rest of
- 6:47Speaker 1: his life behind bars. So why exactly are we wasting
- 6:49Speaker 1: her time? Author?
- 6:51Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a that's a great point said.
- 6:54Speaker 2: The only thing that Luigi, in my opinion, has going
- 6:57Speaker 2: for him is his age. So that hypothetically, if he
- 7:02Speaker 2: gets between the two jurisdictions, the state and the federal,
- 7:06Speaker 2: if he winds up with fifty years, maybe he gets
- 7:09Speaker 2: out at seventy eight, seventy nine eighty. But you know
- 7:12Speaker 2: what kind of life is that. I mean, the evidence
- 7:15Speaker 2: there from what we've seen, what's been put on television
- 7:18Speaker 2: in the newspaper. You know, you say, to murder, I
- 7:21Speaker 2: mean it's like an execution, really, I mean, right, the
- 7:23Speaker 2: guys right behind him, it's on video, the evidence of
- 7:26Speaker 2: the judges letting in the backpack, the journal, the weapon,
- 7:31Speaker 2: I mean, and then they said well, we're going to
- 7:34Speaker 2: go with a mental disease or defect defense. And then
- 7:36Speaker 2: the next day they withdrew it, which is definitely not
- 7:40Speaker 2: typical because when you say you're going with that defense,
- 7:43Speaker 2: you're admitting he did it, and then there's the excuse
- 7:46Speaker 2: why he did it. So you said, for like twenty hours,
- 7:49Speaker 2: yeah he did it, but there's a reason why he
- 7:51Speaker 2: did it, and then you pulled it back. So and
- 7:54Speaker 2: you're in two very difficult jurisdictions, the Manhattan District Attorney's
- 7:57Speaker 2: Office and the Southern District of New York. So yes,
- 8:00Speaker 2: I believe in Rosenbergh analysis that mister Mangioni will be
- 8:05Speaker 2: spending many, many, many years of several decades behind bars.
- 8:11Speaker 2: And then in the Eastern District of New York, which
- 8:15Speaker 2: is Brooklyn. I'm representing your good friends, well, I'm representing
- 8:19Speaker 2: Frank technically, with Frank and his brother Anthony Caron in
- 8:23Speaker 2: a three year investigation where they went up every orifice
- 8:27Speaker 2: that any human being could have.
- 8:29Speaker 1: No listen, I spoke to you know, I'm closer with Anthony,
- 8:33Speaker 1: but I love Frank. Two, Curtisley was a scumbag doing
- 8:37Speaker 1: videos and dancing. I even know the Boe. To be honest,
- 8:40Speaker 1: I'm very very close with Anthony. I do love Frank,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and you know those guys, you know they they kind
- 8:46Speaker 1: of waited every morning for that knock at the door,
- 8:49Speaker 1: and they got it, and now here we are.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Now.
- 8:51Speaker 1: I knew that you represented them in the arraignment. I
- 8:54Speaker 1: didn't realize you what their attorney as well, which is
- 8:57Speaker 1: great because you're as good as a cat. So I'm
- 8:58Speaker 1: glad they've got you, So tell me about what.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Secondly, I'm Frank's attorney, but Anthony's, I mean all that. Look,
- 9:05Speaker 2: there's several lawyers involved. They're all excellent. My biggest problem
- 9:10Speaker 2: is I've been friends with Frank since nineteen ninety six
- 9:13Speaker 2: or nineteen ninety seven, So there's this personal aspect of it,
- 9:16Speaker 2: which puts that many more cinder blocks on your shoulders
- 9:20Speaker 2: when you're representing someone you know, someone whose daughters, who
- 9:23Speaker 2: you were at his daughter's wedding that long ago.
- 9:26Speaker 1: But now I gotta tell you that I know you
- 9:28Speaker 1: know this because I said this to you. I found
- 9:30Speaker 1: out about this from Katsumatides. I was walking to the
- 9:34Speaker 1: Western Wall, which they call the Cotel in Jerusalem, to pray.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I swear to god. It was my last day in Israel.
- 9:39Speaker 1: It was a Wednesday afternoon, and in fact I was
- 9:42Speaker 1: about to call the radio station, which I did from
- 9:44Speaker 1: a little cafe just outside the Western wall. I started crying.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I mean, I was really upset. So tell me what's
- 9:51Speaker 1: going on with this case.
- 9:52Speaker 2: At the bottom line is they did a very huge,
- 9:56Speaker 2: sorrow long term investigation. They spoke to everyone around the
- 10:00Speaker 2: world of the Corols, everybody including his priests. I mean,
- 10:04Speaker 2: wrap your brain around that one. And they came up
- 10:08Speaker 2: with a set of facts which you know, again I
- 10:11Speaker 2: have to watch what I say because I'm involve with
- 10:13Speaker 2: the case. But let's just say they're not overwhelming. You know,
- 10:15Speaker 2: we spoke about Robinson, we talked about MANZIONI whatever. That
- 10:19Speaker 2: is on the one side of the spectrum. This is
- 10:21Speaker 2: on the exact other side of the spectrum in terms
- 10:24Speaker 2: of strength of cases. So you know, there's plenty for
- 10:28Speaker 2: good lawyer and good lawyers to work on. There's forget
- 10:32Speaker 2: about reasonable doubts. There are tons of doubts, and you
- 10:35Speaker 2: know we are just we're rolling up our sleeves. Frank
- 10:38Speaker 2: wants the fastest trial possible and which I get in
- 10:42Speaker 2: front of a jury. His exact words were, if anyone
- 10:45Speaker 2: says the word plea that we as a legal team.
- 10:49Speaker 2: So we've covered full Steve ahead and you know he's
- 10:53Speaker 2: my educated guests, having been doing this since nineteen ninety two.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Is everything's going to be okay in the long rum?
- 11:00Speaker 1: I love that frank An Anthony Corona good buddies. One
- 11:03Speaker 1: more another guy you're representing who everybody loves, and that
- 11:07Speaker 1: is Sergeant Eric Duran. Been quiet. I don't know what
- 11:11Speaker 1: you guys are in the midst of some type of appeal.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on with Vinnie Powalan's guy,
- 11:17Speaker 1: Eric Doran.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Yes, so Vinnie. First of all, if there's any positive
- 11:21Speaker 2: that's come out of the Eric Durant thing, is that
- 11:23Speaker 2: my relationship with Vinnie. What a good guy, greatly on
- 11:26Speaker 2: several levels. Just a really good guy. I'm happy, No,
- 11:31Speaker 2: I'm thrilled. I have a very My Appella team is
- 11:39Speaker 2: very experienced. Diana Fabby was in the Die's office in
- 11:42Speaker 2: the Appellate Bureau for ten years. Judge Barry Tammonds has
- 11:45Speaker 2: argued more compellic cases than I could count, and Judge
- 11:48Speaker 2: John Lemondal was the appellate Judge, you heard them all,
- 11:51Speaker 2: So that trifecta and I know you're gonna love to
- 11:54Speaker 2: hear this because you're very close with Harvey Wearrenstein.
- 11:56Speaker 3: That's the trifecta that that got.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein's case overturned in a very very difficult environment.
- 12:04Speaker 2: I mean, look, most people love Eric Duran right, people
- 12:07Speaker 2: with their head screwed on street. There's too many people
- 12:09Speaker 2: out there and accept maybe his own children who loved
- 12:12Speaker 2: Bobby Weinstein. So there was a huge hurdle to get
- 12:14Speaker 2: that case reversed. Just be from the public perception point
- 12:18Speaker 2: of view. I will tell you, Judge Cammons, who have
- 12:21Speaker 2: been with me over ten years now in my law firm,
- 12:24Speaker 2: I have not seen him so energetic and so motivated
- 12:29Speaker 2: about an appeal and Diana, who's because most of it's
- 12:31Speaker 2: on video sid and it's a unlike regular cases where
- 12:36Speaker 2: there's a jury, this was a judge's verdict. There was
- 12:38Speaker 2: one human being's verdict. So you get to argue the
- 12:41Speaker 2: facts to the appellate court. So you get to retry
- 12:44Speaker 2: the case to the appellate court. You don't normally ninety
- 12:48Speaker 2: five percent of the time you don't get to do that.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You talk about the law of the law of the law.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Here we're going to get to talk about the facts
- 12:53Speaker 2: and how all Eric was doing when he acted that
- 12:56Speaker 2: day was saving the lives of at least two police
- 13:00Speaker 2: offs and one civilian. The video shows that. And that
- 13:04Speaker 2: case where you have to submit our brief in August,
- 13:06Speaker 2: they'll probably get their back in November. And my guess
- 13:10Speaker 2: is that case is going to argue January February, and
- 13:13Speaker 2: then you gotta wait for the court's decision. The best part, though,
- 13:17Speaker 2: is one of the judges on the Appel Division has
- 13:19Speaker 2: let Eric Durant stay at Liberty during this process, so
- 13:22Speaker 2: he's home, he's with his family. He's a great guy,
- 13:25Speaker 2: and we are really we are really digging in deep
- 13:29Speaker 2: to make sure he gets exonerated.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Let him know New York loves him, like I love you.
- 13:33Speaker 1: This was an amazing I mean, you're always great, You're
- 13:35Speaker 1: gredit this, You're great on TV. You're going this was
- 13:37Speaker 1: one of your best ever. I gotta say, Artie, so
- 13:40Speaker 1: thank you so much for the other Like.
- 13:42Speaker 2: The way I introduced you, Yes, Hall of Fame introduction.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Right, you could have got on fighting over it.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Everyone's I mean, I just assumed Trump is doing it right.
- 13:49Speaker 3: Isn't Trump going to introduce you into the Hall of Fame?
- 13:52Speaker 1: I am not at liberty to share that yet. He
- 13:57Speaker 1: just got home from Turkey's a little tired, but in
- 14:00Speaker 1: a serious note, you were great, really really great, authoright Dalla?
- 14:03Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you so much.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Congrat's soon.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Thank you. Great job. There is the amazing defense attorney
- 14:08Speaker 1: author Idala back on SID and Friends in the Morning.
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