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October 19, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 6: All right, welcome in. Glad to have you with us
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Speaker 6: a lot of time on the Citadel, but aside from
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Speaker 6: the second half one-yard line, problems with the drop pass
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Speaker 6: in the end zone and the two illegal procedures. Fairly
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Speaker 6: clean game and kind of what you would hope and expect.
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Speaker 6: I don't think too many people got, I saw, limping off-seas.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it was health-wise was number one, really,
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Speaker 2: and just taking care of business. And you're right, I
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Speaker 2: think They got what they needed out of that. It's
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Speaker 2: hard to get excited about that if you're a Nagy
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Speaker 2: fan because you go in at 3-3. If you're 6-1
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Speaker 2: or 6-0, it's a different deal. So it's just like
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Speaker 2: win the game and move on, and they did that. And,
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Speaker 2: of course, when your backup quarterback goes in, he gets
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Speaker 2: to stay.
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Speaker 6: Everybody loves the backup quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Everybody loves the backup quarterback. I just laugh. It's always
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Speaker 2: that way.
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Speaker 6: What do you think about Brady Hart?
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's fine. I mean, just keep
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Speaker 7: in mind, though, that you're talking about you played a team.
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Speaker 7: Not only is it way inferior, but it's probably the
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Speaker 7: worst team in the Southern Conference.
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Speaker 8: Like, I mean, they're 0-3 in their own conference. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 8: I mean, you can– it was as.
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Speaker 7: Good as you could hope for, I think. I mean,
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Speaker 7: I was thinking about this. I watched the first half,
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Speaker 7: and it was just– I mean, what I thought. And
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Speaker 7: it was like, yeah, I'm not going to waste time.
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Speaker 7: So I mowed the yard while I listened to the
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Speaker 7: second half. And as I was mowing the yard.
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Speaker 6: It was a good day for it, by the way.
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Speaker 8: It was a great day for it, by the way.
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Speaker 8: I didn't break a sweat.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was solid.
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Speaker 7: You accomplished something, too. Yeah, so I accomplished something, too.
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Speaker 7: And I was thinking about this. It's like, there's a
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Speaker 7: good chance that this could be the last win of
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Speaker 7: the season. I mean, based on everything I saw later.
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Speaker 8: That night, it doesn't change my mind about that.
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Speaker 7: So if that's the last win of the season, Arizona
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Speaker 7: State or Arkansas is going to be the best win
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Speaker 7: of 2026.
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Speaker 8: Which is a scary thought. Yeah, I mean.
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Speaker 7: I tell you this, Chip, Saturday night was probably, and
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Speaker 7: I can't go back to all 57 years of my life, but.
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Speaker 8: That's as good a night of watching college football.
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Speaker 2: It was the best night of football I've ever seen.
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Speaker 8: I think so. Me too.
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Speaker 6: I tweeted out, it was, in my experience, and I've
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Speaker 6: lived longer than you have and been watching football, Honestly,
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Speaker 6: since I was three, I loved it. I could tell
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Speaker 6: you starting lineups, you know, I followed everything. But I
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Speaker 6: cannot think of any day that was wilder and more entertaining,
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Speaker 6: maybe in all sports.
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Speaker 8: Especially Saturday night, right?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it just started at 11 a.m. with
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Speaker 6: Florida and Texas, and that wasn't a pretty game. But
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Speaker 6: just all the way, and the end, you're right. You're flipping.
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Speaker 6: You're watching these endings. You're watching all these teams. The
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Speaker 6: holding call against Florida State.
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Speaker 7: I'm like, you've got to be kidding me on that
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Speaker 7: Hail Mary.
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Speaker 6: Two straight Hail Marys. But two straight completed Hail Marys.
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Speaker 8: I'm texting my sister. She's up west.
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Speaker 7: She's like, yeah, it's going to be a really good game,
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Speaker 7: but Miami's going to pull away.
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Speaker 8: That's what happened.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 8: And then the Houston-Oklahoma State game was great.
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Speaker 2: A great game.
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Speaker 8: BYU-Notre Dame was a great game.
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Speaker 6: Yes, it was.
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Speaker 2: These games are just so entertaining. You guys watched the
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Speaker 2: Nebraska-Oregon game? I don't think you guys saw that one. No,
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Speaker 2: I didn't stay up that late. That was really a
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Speaker 2: bad game.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was close.
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Speaker 2: I started watching that game.
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Speaker 6: It was bad.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I'm not going to play.
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Speaker 2: After seeing all the good football.
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Speaker 8: I was done.
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Speaker 6: I was exhausted.
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Speaker 2: I watched a quarter and a half of that game
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Speaker 2: because I just was up.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Man, these teams are bad. I mean, it was really, it.
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Speaker 6: Was like, wow. Oregon benched Dylan Raiola, right? They had
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Speaker 6: a third-team guy playing. Did I read that right or not?
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Speaker 6: I thought he got hurt.
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Speaker 5: No, he played?
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. All right, well, that's why it was ugly.
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Speaker 2: It was 7-0 at halftime.
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Speaker 6: 17-13, did I get that right? And the only reason it.
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Speaker 2: Was 7-0, because the officials should have called it a
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Speaker 2: non-catch in the last minute. But they called it a
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Speaker 2: catch for a touchdown, and they couldn't overturn it. So
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Speaker 2: I've said this before.
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Speaker 6: When you watch this must football, you look at the
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Speaker 6: coaching mistakes just kind of jump out. And then the
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Speaker 6: main thing is the mistakes, is the turnovers. Every game
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Speaker 6: that we watched, every one we talked about, every one
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Speaker 6: that was nail-biting, there were always mistakes and turnovers.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I started off that night watching Oklahoma and Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I watched some of that too. I watched
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Speaker 2: a lot of that.
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Speaker 6: That wasn't pretty.
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Speaker 7: I was thinking about you when Will Stein went for,
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Speaker 7: he's up one point.
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Speaker 10: Why?
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Speaker 2: Why do you go for that?
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Kick the field goal.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Because then you go up by four. You make that
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Speaker 2: bad over there. I have no idea what he was doing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: You can't say much against Cignetti. But it's 19-13.
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Speaker 2: 19-13.
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of time left when they score.
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Speaker 2: He goes for two.
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Speaker 6: And I go, wait.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing this in my head.
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Speaker 6: 19-13. If it's 19-14 and they kick a field goal,
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Speaker 6: it's still a one-score game. If it's 19-15, what does
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Speaker 6: that do?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't do anything.
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Speaker 6: But if it's 19-13 and they kick a field goal,
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Speaker 6: the game's over.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: And I'm going, why are you going for two? It
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Speaker 2: didn't turn out easy.
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Speaker 6: He got it. He got it. But I'm going, why
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Speaker 6: are you going for two?
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Speaker 8: I thought the same thing. And I'm still saying, Will Stein,
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Speaker 8: why are you going for two?
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Speaker 2: Why did you do that? It didn't bite him because
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Speaker 2: he picked it off. Why did the BYU coach.
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Speaker 6: do a fake punt from his own 25-yard line when
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Speaker 6: they're dominating the game.
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Speaker 2: That was bad. That was bad.
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Speaker 6: And his defense bailed him out. They only got a
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Speaker 6: field goal out of him. What are they doing?
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Speaker 2: I mean, what?
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Speaker 6: And that wasn't even a pretty fake field goal. The
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Speaker 6: punter is already running to the line of scrimmage before
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Speaker 6: he catches the ball. And he's not an athlete. I
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Speaker 6: almost fell out of my chair on that one. I'm going,
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Speaker 6: you're dominant. You have the crowd. You're beating Notre.
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Speaker 2: Dame, and this is what you do?
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Speaker 6: I just can't believe it.
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Speaker 8: It made me really happy that I wasn't a gambler
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Speaker 8: with money on.
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Speaker 6: Any of these games.
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Speaker 11: Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 2: I can't believe watching.
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Speaker 6: These games if you had money on them.
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Speaker 2: Because, like, you know, I'm.
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Speaker 8: Watching Georgia and Auburn, and I'm like, okay, well, Georgia's
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Speaker 8: about to come down here.
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Speaker 2: They were up 14 to nothing.
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Speaker 8: And they were about to finish it, win the game. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: And then they had the turnover. And it's the same
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Speaker 7: thing with Kentucky and Oklahoma. Oklahoma's got a great chance
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Speaker 7: to go down there. Mateer throws a terrible pass that
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Speaker 7: gets picked for touchdown.
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Speaker 6: No, no, wait.
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Speaker 2: Did you just say Mateer threw a terrible pass?
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But the one he threw long that was intercepted and
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Speaker 2: he was hit, they were dominating the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 2: Why even throw it? I mean, Venables should have been shot.
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Speaker 2: He should have won that game. Hey, but he's got
9:06
Speaker 2: a new contract extension.
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Speaker 5: And more money.
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Speaker 2: How many times have we said that for a coach?
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Speaker 8: We ended up watching Houston and Oklahoma State.
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Speaker 2: That was a good game.
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Speaker 8: That was a really good game, too.
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Speaker 6: Do you think Connor Wigman would be good right now
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Speaker 6: in the level he's playing or not?
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Speaker 2: My wife, she.
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Speaker 8: Rip me for that one. Because I said the same thing.
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Speaker 8: She's like, oh, you were all for Marcel when he
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Speaker 8: came in. I was like, yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 11: You're right.
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Speaker 8: I mean, at the time, Marcel was a good solution.
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Speaker 6: I'll tell you, Conor Wigman's problem in his career, and
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Speaker 6: he hasn't had it quite as much this year.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's coaching, too, right?
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 6: You've got to give credit coaching. Because I'm looking what
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Speaker 6: Josh Hoover is doing at Indiana. And....
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Speaker 2: Man, not the same guy. Not the same guy.
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Speaker 12: Right?
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Speaker 6: He is not just throwing it up for grabs like
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Speaker 6: he did at TCU.
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Speaker 2: And it's different, right? It is different.
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Speaker 6: And Wegman is... different this year. He had his problem.
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Speaker 6: As you remember, Rusty, man, he gave the ball to
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Speaker 6: the other team a lot.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he did.
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Speaker 2: He had to get rid of the Jimbo-isms.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Took a while.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, and Willie Fritz can coach. Yes, he can.
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Speaker 7: He coached Sam Houston State for a long time, and
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Speaker 7: he did a lot of great things over there.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 2: How about game day, going back to staying in Utah,
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Speaker 2: going to UH?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, that's the game, right? Houston and Utah.
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Speaker 2: Is that amazing?
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Speaker 6: It's got huge playoff implications.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 6: And, you know, Utah's schedule hasn't been great, but I
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Speaker 6: just keep, thinking of Houston going to Lubbock when Texas
10:39
Speaker 6: Tech is still, I think, overrated. I know they're undefeated.
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Speaker 6: And they probably should have won that game in Lubbock.
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Speaker 6: We know how hard it is to win in Lubbock,
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Speaker 6: by the way.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, every Aggie does.
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Speaker 2: No, everybody, you know, it's not an easy place to
10:55
Speaker 2: go win.
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Speaker 6: No, it's not.
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Speaker 13: Okay?
10:57
Speaker 2: You just want to come out alive.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes. Without a goalpost hitting you in the head.
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Speaker 8: I've seen that happen.
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Speaker 2: Or a battery hitting you.
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Speaker 13: In the head.
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Speaker 2: Or a battery or a tortilla.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Tortillas are not that bad, but, you know.
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Speaker 6: I thought that was the best, right? They should have
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Speaker 6: let them throw the tortillas because when they start throwing batteries,
11:15
Speaker 6: as you mentioned, people get hurt.
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Speaker 8: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: But I digress. If you're overrated in week seven, I
11:21
Speaker 2: think that's a great place to be.
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Speaker 6: No, you're right. I mean, you know, Tech doesn't have
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Speaker 6: to play BYU.
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Speaker 8: I know.
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Speaker 2: What a deal.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they have a great schedule.
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Speaker 2: So if they go unbeaten in Utah– Utah. Or BYU.
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Speaker 2: One of them win the rest of their games.
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Speaker 6: They could.
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Speaker 2: Big 12's going to get two in. Oh, I think
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Speaker 2: Big 12's going to get two in this year.
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Speaker 8: I'm pretty convinced Arizona State's a really bad football team.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you there. Yeah, they didn't look as bad
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Speaker 2: as they did. When they lost to Baylor, the Baylor
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Speaker 2: turnaround lost at home to TCU.
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Speaker 6: What was that about? Just as everybody's saying, oh, Aranda's
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Speaker 6: turned the corner. And Sonny is in trouble, right? Everybody
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Speaker 6: is calling for his death.
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Speaker 2: How does that work?
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Speaker 7: I started out watching that game, and I quickly texted.
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Speaker 8: My sister who went to TCU. My dad went to Baylor.
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Speaker 8: I was like, I'm not watching this crap anymore. It
12:11
Speaker 8: was ugly.
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Speaker 2: It was ugly.
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Speaker 8: And they go, we don't blame you.
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Speaker 6: See, so I don't know what Oregon and Nebraska was.
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Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it.
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Speaker 6: TCU and Baylor was equally as bad. TCU Baylor was
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Speaker 6: equally as bad.
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Speaker 7: The Oregon game in the first quarter, first quarter, or
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Speaker 7: first half, there was eight punts in the first quarter.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay. And the yardage combined for both teams was like
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Speaker 2: 130 in the first half. I'm sitting there like, this
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Speaker 2: is back in 1950. So, in terms of.
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Speaker 2: In terms of.
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Speaker 6: The great teams and the great games in my mind,
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Speaker 6: I thought Notre Dame-BYU was a really good game. Fairly
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Speaker 6: well played. Fairly clean, except for the stupidity and a
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Speaker 6: couple of things.
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Speaker 2: Pretty intense.
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Speaker 6: I thought Indiana and Ohio State was a terrific. I
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Speaker 6: didn't see any of that game. Okay, so I taped it.
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Speaker 6: I watched it yesterday. I just thought it was terrific. Now,
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Speaker 6: I mentioned the reason Indiana had won 22 or.
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Speaker 2: 23 straight games.
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Speaker 7: 22, yep.
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Speaker 2: They fumbled twice.
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Speaker 6: The last time they fumbled was the first game a
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Speaker 6: year ago. They had not lost a fumble. Wow.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so how do.
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Speaker 6: You win 22 games in a row? That's one of
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Speaker 6: the reasons, right? Yeah, and they were one step away
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Speaker 6: from winning that game on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: It was a terrific game. It was just an exciting,
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Speaker 2: great college football game.
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Speaker 6: I know, I know.
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Speaker 8: That big noon stupid thing.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's killing the SEC, too, because they're counter-ASPN's counter-programming
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Speaker 6: with good 11 o'clock games, right?
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Speaker 2: Crappy 11 o'clock games. Yeah, I hate that.
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Speaker 8: 11 o'clock should be crappy games, except for.
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Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, 11 o'clock should be lousy games.
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Speaker 2: And you said you had some of them, TCU and Baylor.
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Speaker 8: That would have been a great 11 a.m.
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Speaker 6: Game. OU Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: OU Kentucky would have been a good 11 a.m.
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Speaker 10: Game.
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Speaker 8: But that was a close game.
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Speaker 2: It was a close game.
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Speaker 6: It was a close game.
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Speaker 8: You're right.
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Speaker 6: But, I mean, I like Will Stein a lot.
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Speaker 2: How can you not? He was pointing over at Brent.
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Speaker 7: Venables like, I got you on that one.
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Speaker 6: You know, if he's your coach, you love that stuff.
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Speaker 2: He's spurrier, like a little. He's got a little spurrier
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Speaker 2: in him.
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Speaker 8: Which I like.
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Speaker 2: I like that it is.
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Speaker 6: The players were talking about that. We talked about this,
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Speaker 6: I think, a couple of weeks ago. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 6: our coach has swag, man.
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Speaker 8: To me, he's got swag.
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Speaker 6: He's not annoying.
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Speaker 8: He's not Nate Oates annoying. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's a good example.
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Speaker 6: Well, Spurrier annoyed everybody but the people of Florida or
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Speaker 6: South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: But I like that. Well, I understand.
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Speaker 6: I get it. He had that personality, and you either
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Speaker 6: loved him or hated him.
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Speaker 8: I love Mike Leach. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Everything Mike Lee said was not, you know, certainly not
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Speaker 7: politically correct.
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Speaker 6: It was not politically correct.
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Speaker 2: It was definitely not politically correct. Spur your free shoes, university.
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Speaker 2: When you came up with something like that.
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Speaker 12: I mean, that will live in infamy, won't it?
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Speaker 2: I mean, that will live in infamy. I wish I'd
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Speaker 2: have thought of that.
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Speaker 6: So, SEC, they're eating their own right now, right?
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Speaker 12: And Georgia and Alabama, neither one of them, they beat
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Speaker 12: each other up last week, and neither one of them
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Speaker 12: came out and was a– were ready or able to
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Speaker 12: play on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: You talked about that, Chip. Back-to-back games like that is
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Speaker 2: so tough. Really hard. Rivalry-type games.
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Speaker 6: Really hard.
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Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what Tennessee does. I don't know
15:38
Speaker 2: who they play. Yeah, they're going.
15:39
Speaker 6: To South Carolina.
15:40
Speaker 2: That's a tough place.
15:42
Speaker 6: Did we say two and a half? It started at
15:44
Speaker 6: one and a half points. It's a two-and-a-half-point game.
15:48
Speaker 2: Back-to-back games.
15:49
Speaker 8: Yes.
15:49
Speaker 6: You know, it's tough.
15:50
Speaker 2: I know it's tough.
15:52
Speaker 6: And I'm sure you're going to have me picking that
15:53
Speaker 6: game this week. And I'm already thinking about it.
15:56
Speaker 2: Here's the deal about Tennessee. I don't think they're that
15:59
Speaker 2: good at times, you know. But now, after that game,
16:02
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, you think about Hyples won some
16:04
Speaker 2: big games. What's funny is... He's done it really with
16:07
Speaker 2: defense and a running game. Yes, that's how he's winning
16:09
Speaker 2: this year. And he's won these big games by not
16:12
Speaker 2: throwing the ball.
16:13
Speaker 7: Let me go back to what games should be at
16:17
Speaker 7: 11 o'clock this.
16:17
Speaker 8: Week in the SEC.
16:19
Speaker 2: There's a few of them.
16:20
Speaker 8: Oklahoma and Mississippi State.
16:21
Speaker 6: Oh, that's an ugly game.
16:23
Speaker 2: When is that game?
16:24
Speaker 6: Is that a night game?
16:25
Speaker 8: Starkville, 2.30. Okay.
16:28
Speaker 7: So, yeah, if Mississippi State quarterback doesn't play, that game,
16:31
Speaker 7: that LSU game, they couldn't do anything.
16:34
Speaker 5: No, brutal.
16:35
Speaker 8: That was terrible.
16:36
Speaker 2: That could be a 10-7 game, Mississippi State. And the
16:40
Speaker 2: 10 points are five safeties.
16:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right. I want to go back to the
16:47
Speaker 6: SEC and the fact that they're eating their own right now.
16:52
Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, Cease, these teams have to be
16:57
Speaker 6: ready to play. And I know it's a cliché. But
17:00
Speaker 6: it seems like this year more than ever, except for
17:06
Speaker 6: Vanderbilt and right now Mississippi State without their quarterback, and Arkansas. Okay,
17:11
Speaker 6: there's three teams you look at going, you expect to
17:15
Speaker 6: win those games.
17:15
Speaker 2: But if I could interject something. Of all those games,
17:18
Speaker 2: and I was just mesmerized, like for Auburn winning, and
17:23
Speaker 2: Florida going, and they were down by 14, both of those.
17:26
Speaker 14: Yes.
17:27
Speaker 2: And then later on I look, I go, wait a minute.
17:30
Speaker 2: Arkansas beat Vanderbilt. And I said to myself, when I
17:33
Speaker 2: saw that Arkansas team, they're never going to win a
17:36
Speaker 2: league game. That's the same thing. But let's get back
17:39
Speaker 2: to the NIL. They have 70 new players. They stuck together.
17:43
Speaker 2: I give them all the credit for winning that game.
17:45
Speaker 2: This is the football we deal with.
17:46
Speaker 6: You don't know.
17:49
Speaker 2: Teams can change from week to week. That's what I
17:51
Speaker 2: wanted to bring up.
17:52
Speaker 6: That's what I wanted to bring up because I agree
17:54
Speaker 6: with you.
17:54
Speaker 8: Because I said, okay.
17:55
Speaker 2: Arkansas won. I think that's what created.
17:58
Speaker 6: The chaos, don't you?
17:59
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me say the opposite thing is I don't think.
18:01
Speaker 7: Because they have the NIL, because there's not the unity,
18:06
Speaker 7: the elite teams are.
18:07
Speaker 8: Not as gelled as they used to be.
18:09
Speaker 6: I'm with you there, too.
18:10
Speaker 2: They don't have those– Three- and four-year-old Letterman to say, hey, guys,
18:14
Speaker 2: get your butt out here.
18:15
Speaker 6: We're horrible. There's no doubt. The teams that have five
18:18
Speaker 6: or six of those leftover guys, but they have to
18:21
Speaker 6: be the guys who are playing, right, to be the
18:24
Speaker 6: leaders in the locker room presence.
18:27
Speaker 8: But the chemistry is not there.
18:28
Speaker 6: Chemistry is not there. You're right.
18:31
Speaker 2: It's more NFL-like.
18:33
Speaker 6: It is more NFL-like, for sure, because you don't know
18:37
Speaker 6: week to week what's going to happen. And injuries in
18:42
Speaker 6: a nine-game schedule for SEC.
18:43
Speaker 7: But I don't think it's even NFL-like because an NFL
18:46
Speaker 7: roster doesn't turn over as many players.
18:48
Speaker 6: It doesn't turn over. It's true.
18:50
Speaker 8: You're right.
18:51
Speaker 2: You've got your continuity that we talk about that's very missing.
18:55
Speaker 2: So what kind of premium on coaching... a new group
19:00
Speaker 2: every year.
19:01
Speaker 5: I mean, we're.
19:03
Speaker 6: Beginning to see who can do that and who can't
19:05
Speaker 6: do that.
19:06
Speaker 2: I look at the Florida coach. I look at the
19:08
Speaker 2: Kentucky coach. These are innovative coaches. These relate to the players.
19:12
Speaker 2: They come out, like we talk about, I wouldn't do that,
19:14
Speaker 2: but they're doing that. They come up with schemes. Stein,
19:17
Speaker 2: I mean, he makes you work hard if you're playing him.
19:21
Speaker 8: He's out scheming people.
19:22
Speaker 6: Yes, sure.
19:23
Speaker 2: And look at the new coaches all of a sudden.
19:26
Speaker 2: Even Auburn gets the win. Even Arkansas got a win.
19:30
Speaker 2: Arkansas has got to feel happy they won a game,
19:32
Speaker 2: you know, an SEC play.
19:34
Speaker 6: Alex Golish, did you see him post-game after they won
19:38
Speaker 6: that game? I didn't. You need to pull up that interview.
19:40
Speaker 6: That was spectacular. I don't know if you know his story.
19:44
Speaker 8: He's Russian.
19:45
Speaker 6: He moved to the United States when he was four
19:47
Speaker 6: years old. Fell in love with football. and just pursued
19:51
Speaker 6: it all his life. And to see the emotion after
19:56
Speaker 6: that game, it was anti-Sark. It was phenomenal after the
20:02
Speaker 6: Ohio State game. It was phenomenal. He was just, he
20:07
Speaker 6: couldn't even talk.
20:07
Speaker 2: But players run through a brick wall for guys like that.
20:10
Speaker 6: Exactly.
20:11
Speaker 2: And they'll do the same thing for summer all the time. Exactly.
20:14
Speaker 2: And that's the difference.
20:15
Speaker 7: I was working out with my headsets on while I
20:17
Speaker 7: was listening to your first hour.
20:18
Speaker 13: Yeah.
20:19
Speaker 7: And Josh Heupel, it was like, did he just win
20:22
Speaker 7: the game? He sounded so like, oh my gosh. He
20:25
Speaker 7: sounded very Cignetti-like.
20:27
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you.
20:28
Speaker 6: Why Tennessee is winning. Their line of scrimmage on both
20:31
Speaker 6: sides of the football is really good.
20:33
Speaker 2: There you go. That's why they're winning right now. And
20:36
Speaker 2: it's still line of scrimmage, right? I saw a graphic
20:38
Speaker 2: because I was eating lunch and they had the TV on.
20:42
Speaker 2: And they said that Tennessee... Alabama gave up more yards
20:46
Speaker 2: rushing between the tackles than they have in 10 years ago.
20:49
Speaker 2: Who looks up a stat like that? I mean, between
20:52
Speaker 2: the tackles.
20:53
Speaker 6: I mean, the stats for that game are unbelievable.
20:56
Speaker 2: But I'm saying they ran the football.
20:58
Speaker 6: You don't need to tell me that. They ran the
21:00
Speaker 6: football down their throat, and especially in the second half
21:03
Speaker 6: with Bishop. He carried 32 times.
21:05
Speaker 2: Couldn't stop him.
21:07
Speaker 6: And they couldn't stop him. Their line just took over
21:10
Speaker 6: that game. And, you know, Alabama's defensive line of scrimmage
21:14
Speaker 6: has been pretty good this year.
21:15
Speaker 5: It's had been.
21:15
Speaker 6: That's why I say them and Georgia, they weren't the
21:19
Speaker 6: same team Saturday as they were the week before.
21:22
Speaker 2: You're right.
21:23
Speaker 6: Not even close.
21:24
Speaker 2: And how about A & M going into a team
21:26
Speaker 2: that's lost two in a row, and they haven't lost
21:28
Speaker 2: three in a row since Mike Dubose was coached. Wow.
21:33
Speaker 10: Wow.
21:34
Speaker 6: Holy moly.
21:35
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what's best. Yeah, the pressure
21:38
Speaker 2: is on.
21:40
Speaker 6: You can see it in DeBoer's face the entire game.
21:43
Speaker 2: The pressure is fierce.
21:46
Speaker 6: And since you mentioned how some of it, and we've
21:49
Speaker 6: talked so often about how these coaches make just unbelievable,
21:54
Speaker 6: just scratch your head calls during games, you know, and sideline,
22:00
Speaker 6: you know, is chaos. You know the pressure is on.
22:03
Speaker 6: And you know what? I think the players, we were
22:07
Speaker 6: talking about the new guys, right? And I realize these
22:10
Speaker 6: guys are playing with house money now. It's not the
22:13
Speaker 6: same as being in Alabama or Texas. It is not
22:16
Speaker 6: the same. I don't care what you say. They've come
22:19
Speaker 6: in and they can afford to go for two at
22:21
Speaker 6: the end of the games like Will Stein has done
22:23
Speaker 6: a couple of times.
22:24
Speaker 2: They can afford.
22:25
Speaker 6: Not to kick a field goal like Mike Leach used
22:28
Speaker 6: to do. They can afford to do that. But these
22:32
Speaker 6: other guys, they can't afford to do that. And their players,
22:38
Speaker 6: I think they get right. They reflect the coach. And
22:41
Speaker 6: if the coach is tight, how are they going to play?
22:45
Speaker 7: I sit and watch these guys and I go, well,
22:48
Speaker 7: they're making so much money.
22:51
Speaker 2: It's ego.
22:52
Speaker 8: It is ego.
22:53
Speaker 7: So much of it has to be ego because really
22:56
Speaker 7: with all the money they have, if they can remove
22:58
Speaker 7: themselves from the ego and you say, look, my life
23:02
Speaker 7: is– I'm taken care of. I've got generational wealth here.
23:06
Speaker 7: So even if I get fired, I'm going to collect
23:08
Speaker 7: the salary. So I wonder if you– actually had some
23:12
Speaker 7: psychiatrists talk to these people saying, like, there really is
23:15
Speaker 7: not as much pressure on you as you think, as
23:18
Speaker 7: you're putting on yourself.
23:19
Speaker 6: Have you watched the Saban documentary?
23:21
Speaker 8: Yes, I have.
23:22
Speaker 6: Yes, I have. So you know he has a psychologist, right,
23:26
Speaker 6: come in, and that guy went with him, right, to
23:30
Speaker 6: LSU and I guess to Alabama?
23:32
Speaker 13: Yeah.
23:32
Speaker 10: Right?
23:32
Speaker 15: Right.
23:34
Speaker 6: And changed his whole style of how he approached coaching.
23:38
Speaker 8: Very interesting.
23:39
Speaker 2: Makes sense.
23:40
Speaker 6: Very interesting.
23:40
Speaker 7: Well, like we talked last week, I think, you know,
23:43
Speaker 7: coaches need a PR person.
23:45
Speaker 2: A smart one.
23:46
Speaker 6: On the outside, they need a PR person, for sure,
23:49
Speaker 6: to handle the outside stuff.
23:50
Speaker 8: Right, and so I think psychologists is also very helpful.
23:52
Speaker 6: Inside, they need people that they can bounce things off of.
23:55
Speaker 2: People who will tell them no. Who will tell them
23:58
Speaker 2: the truth.
23:58
Speaker 8: Yes.
23:59
Speaker 2: You can't do that. Because I bet this week if
24:01
Speaker 2: you went up in Goose DeBere, you might end up
24:03
Speaker 2: in Mississippi somewhere. I mean, you know, you're in Alabama.
24:09
Speaker 6: Hey, as we've said, he had to know what he
24:14
Speaker 6: was getting into. He had to. Now, I realize you
24:18
Speaker 6: think you know until you get there, right? I mean,
24:22
Speaker 6: they'll all tell you. Saban told you that. Fran told
24:25
Speaker 6: me that. Fran told us that, yeah. You don't know
24:29
Speaker 6: until you get there. You think you know, but you don't.
24:33
Speaker 2: It's a big fishbowl, particularly in Alabama. It's huge. Ohio State,
24:37
Speaker 2: places like that. It's huge. Can you deal with it?
24:40
Speaker 6: Can you deal with it?
24:40
Speaker 8: It's even bigger in Alabama because you don't have any
24:43
Speaker 8: other sports.
24:43
Speaker 6: There's nothing else.
24:44
Speaker 2: No professional sports. You have no professional.
24:47
Speaker 8: In Ohio State, you've got great professional sports. You're right.
24:51
Speaker 8: You've also got the Browns.
24:53
Speaker 2: They're in first place. All you do is get rid
24:55
Speaker 2: of Garrett.
24:56
Speaker 6: I don't know anything about the NFL, but I know
24:58
Speaker 6: they're in first place in their division.
25:00
Speaker 2: They got rid of that Miles Garrett.
25:01
Speaker 6: It's much better.
25:01
Speaker 7: Just give them a little time. But, I mean, the
25:04
Speaker 7: pressure in Alabama has got to be like... Incredible.
25:08
Speaker 8: Those people are crazy.
25:09
Speaker 2: They are crazy. And now if you're Alabama, not only
25:13
Speaker 2: did you lose, Auburn won this week.
25:14
Speaker 8: Those people will poison your treats.
25:17
Speaker 14: Yes, they will.
25:18
Speaker 2: It's Auburn won this week, so they're really mad. They're
25:21
Speaker 2: doubly mad if you're an Alabama fan.
25:22
Speaker 6: Same kind of thing.
25:24
Speaker 8: You know?
25:24
Speaker 6: I mean.
25:25
Speaker 2: Roll damn tight.
25:26
Speaker 6: Roll damn tight. So, you know.
25:30
Speaker 2: Sarkissian couldn't be... He can't handle pressure at Texas. He
25:33
Speaker 2: would never be able to handle pressure at Alabama.
25:35
Speaker 6: You know, the way he's responding is not what you want, right?
25:39
Speaker 2: You want... It's... I want.
25:43
Speaker 6: Despite what Elko did last week, we've already talked about that.
25:46
Speaker 15: Right.
25:47
Speaker 6: But in his defense, he has taken responsibility. And he
25:51
Speaker 6: even did when he goes, I own this. This is
25:55
Speaker 6: all on me.
25:56
Speaker 10: Right.
25:56
Speaker 2: It's up to me to fix it. I haven't heard
25:58
Speaker 2: that from Shark.
25:59
Speaker 6: No. Right. He needs to come out because the fan
26:02
Speaker 6: base over there is like the fan base here.
26:05
Speaker 14: Right.
26:05
Speaker 2: They're upset.
26:06
Speaker 13: Now.
26:07
Speaker 2: They were number one.
26:08
Speaker 6: This team was number one, but they had designs on
26:11
Speaker 6: being a playoff team. So there's similar things going on.
26:16
Speaker 6: I want somebody to come out, as my coach said, look,
26:19
Speaker 6: this is on me. I'm getting paid a lot of money,
26:22
Speaker 6: and we're going to fix it.
26:24
Speaker 7: But they've got a lot of fans who've seen them
26:26
Speaker 7: win the national championship in their lifetime.
26:28
Speaker 2: They do. I get that. But they expect it every year.
26:35
Speaker 13: Right?
26:35
Speaker 2: You expect it every year. When I heard that game
26:38
Speaker 2: was winding down and I said it somewhat in jest,
26:41
Speaker 2: but I wish it could happen, I go, is it
26:42
Speaker 2: too late to get Holly Rowe there to interview Sarkisian
26:45
Speaker 2: after that game? Because I'd like to see what he
26:47
Speaker 2: would do. I didn't see it on field interview after.
26:49
Speaker 2: Of course, I didn't see the second half, so I
26:52
Speaker 2: don't know. Because he's not handling things well.
26:54
Speaker 8: No, he's not. They don't usually do the on-field interview.
26:56
Speaker 2: I know. You would love just to hear him run
26:59
Speaker 2: up and go, Coach, Coach, I'm back.
27:01
Speaker 6: But they do do pressers afterward, as we well know.
27:04
Speaker 6: Everybody has to do that.
27:05
Speaker 8: I hate the on-field interview. I do, too.
27:08
Speaker 6: It's a waste of time.
27:09
Speaker 2: You don't ever get anything.
27:10
Speaker 7: The only thing that is worse than the on-field interview
27:13
Speaker 7: is the in-dugout interview, which I hate.
27:17
Speaker 8: So.
27:18
Speaker 6: So at what point do you think a coach is
27:20
Speaker 6: going to turn to the blonde sideline reporter and go, hey,
27:24
Speaker 6: coming up, we're going to do this trick play that
27:26
Speaker 6: we have worked on for the last four weeks. Now
27:29
Speaker 6: here's how it's going to happen.
27:30
Speaker 8: Right.
27:31
Speaker 2: In the third quarter, they're down by seven. Coach, what
27:33
Speaker 2: do you need to do here?
27:36
Speaker 5: No.
27:37
Speaker 2: And one of them said, go down and get points.
27:39
Speaker 2: And I go, wow, I'm glad they went to that.
27:41
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Speaker 6: playoff 24 teams. Yes.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm dead set against it.
32:03
Speaker 8: Okay.
32:03
Speaker 2: Some of the things Elko touched on because it's all
32:07
Speaker 2: about money. It's it's has to devalue the regular season.
32:11
Speaker 2: What I see also happening is we love to change
32:14
Speaker 2: things and get, And I call them the flavor of
32:18
Speaker 2: the month because what's going to happen, and I'll probably
32:20
Speaker 2: be dead and buried, what will happen when we go
32:22
Speaker 2: to 24, your team that you root for within four years,
32:25
Speaker 2: let's say they go to the playoff twice and they
32:28
Speaker 2: don't get past the second round, you want to fire
32:30
Speaker 2: that coach. More coaches will be fired than ever before
32:32
Speaker 2: because now, right now we look at, you want to
32:35
Speaker 2: get to the 12, which is the top 10 because
32:38
Speaker 2: you do the at-large. Soon it's going to be the
32:41
Speaker 2: top eight. You've got to get to the top eight
32:42
Speaker 2: because you'll be home. You've got a chance. It's going
32:45
Speaker 2: to be so hard for people outside the top eight
32:47
Speaker 2: in major college football to win a championship. But immediately, oh,
32:51
Speaker 2: we made the college football playoff. Oh, you know, we're
32:54
Speaker 2: number 23. You really think you're going to win a title?
32:57
Speaker 2: It's not like the NFL.
32:58
Speaker 8: It's going to happen.
32:59
Speaker 6: What's going to happen? Oh, yeah.
33:01
Speaker 2: I know it's going to happen.
33:02
Speaker 7: Whether you're against it or not, it's going to happen.
33:07
Speaker 8: It's going to devalue the regular season.
33:09
Speaker 2: Big time.
33:11
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to devalue it personally as
33:13
Speaker 6: much as you think it is.
33:15
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll change the robbery games. Move them up.
33:18
Speaker 6: I think that the Saturdays like we had are still
33:20
Speaker 6: going to be electric because the fan base aren't going anywhere.
33:24
Speaker 8: I don't disagree with that.
33:26
Speaker 6: We're not going to change... Saturdays in October. I mean,
33:32
Speaker 6: they're still going to be important.
33:35
Speaker 2: But you're going to get a team with four losses.
33:38
Speaker 6: Maybe.
33:38
Speaker 8: Yeah.
33:39
Speaker 16: Maybe.
33:39
Speaker 7: So that's why I'm saying it devalues the regular season
33:41
Speaker 7: a bit. Three, four losses is not going to be
33:47
Speaker 7: anything unusual to get in.
33:50
Speaker 6: But when you saw the atmosphere here, we're going to
33:53
Speaker 6: have more on-campus playoff games.
33:55
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
33:56
Speaker 6: To me, that's not a bad thing. I tell you,
33:59
Speaker 6: if this is what it takes to get rid of
34:01
Speaker 6: conference championship games.
34:02
Speaker 2: I'm all for that. I'm all for it. I'm for
34:05
Speaker 2: that all along, even without that.
34:07
Speaker 6: Because nobody right now, nobody is saying, hey, Georgia's won
34:11
Speaker 6: two SEC titles in a row. They've won three out
34:14
Speaker 6: of the last five.
34:15
Speaker 5: So what?
34:16
Speaker 6: I mean, they won a national championship once, but nobody's
34:21
Speaker 6: talking about the other SEC championships they've won. Now, that
34:24
Speaker 6: might be big here since it hadn't happened since 1998.
34:27
Speaker 6: I get that. But I don't need the conference championships
34:33
Speaker 6: when we're playing. We're already playing extra games. Now we're
34:36
Speaker 6: really going to be playing that. I'll tell you what
34:38
Speaker 6: has to happen, Cease.
34:39
Speaker 8: It's going to devalue the bowls even further.
34:41
Speaker 6: They're not going to be those minor bowls anymore. I
34:44
Speaker 6: don't think the Texas Bowl will be around. I don't
34:46
Speaker 6: think they're going to be around.
34:47
Speaker 2: I don't know they could.
34:48
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:49
Speaker 2: I just, you know, we'll see what happens.
34:54
Speaker 7: To me, that's bad for college football in a way,
34:57
Speaker 7: if all those bowls go away.
34:58
Speaker 8: Because a lot of those cities, I mean, they do
35:00
Speaker 8: a lot of charitable functions.
35:02
Speaker 13: Yes, they do.
35:02
Speaker 7: And so a lot of those guys go, and they
35:05
Speaker 7: go to these hospitals, and they visit kids.
35:07
Speaker 15: Yes.
35:07
Speaker 7: Some of those things are like long-time memories that it's
35:10
Speaker 7: just like... So I hate to see that go away.
35:13
Speaker 6: How about going back to eight games in the SEC
35:16
Speaker 6: if we go to 24 games?
35:18
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a possibility they will do that?
35:20
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. I think you're going to have to
35:22
Speaker 2: have jobs. It'll have to be negotiated. Because, once again,
35:26
Speaker 2: the whole purpose, like you said, no conference championship. You
35:28
Speaker 2: want to get to the college football playoff, but then
35:31
Speaker 2: you've got to win because it's going to be, you know,
35:33
Speaker 2: if you're at the lower level, who cares? If it
35:36
Speaker 2: goes two straight years, losing the first round, fans around here.
35:38
Speaker 6: Are going to go nuts. Will... Teams schedule better non-conference
35:45
Speaker 6: games knowing that a loss wouldn't affect them.
35:50
Speaker 2: Well, no, not if I'm in the SEC because I'm
35:52
Speaker 2: going to lose games anyway. Yeah.
35:54
Speaker 8: I agree with Cease there. Yeah, man. Well, I played
35:57
Speaker 8: Notre Dame. If I could play the Citadel, I'm going
35:58
Speaker 8: to play nine or eight.
36:00
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a good sample
36:02
Speaker 2: because right now when you look, everybody in the SEC
36:04
Speaker 2: has got a loss. How many does the SEC get
36:07
Speaker 2: in 2020?
36:07
Speaker 6: This year.
36:08
Speaker 2: Do they get three or four? If they get four, then.
36:11
Speaker 8: Beating each other up helps.
36:12
Speaker 7: The problem with the 2014 playoff is that we all
36:14
Speaker 7: know there's no way that the 2014 that gets in
36:18
Speaker 7: is not– they don't have a chance to win it.
36:20
Speaker 8: In my opinion.
36:21
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
36:21
Speaker 7: Because the last team that gets in in Major League Baseball,
36:24
Speaker 7: the last team that gets in in football, in the NFL,
36:27
Speaker 7: they have a chance because.
36:29
Speaker 8: It's equal.
36:31
Speaker 2: It's equal.
36:32
Speaker 8: But the 24th team.
36:34
Speaker 6: I would argue that with the transfer portal now, it's
36:37
Speaker 6: equaling out, like we've talked about.
36:39
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe so. I mean, South Carolina goes into Georgia, right?
36:42
Speaker 6: So you're right.
36:43
Speaker 2: But even the NFL playoffs show the higher rounds.
36:48
Speaker 2: It's tough to go in the road because that team rests.
36:50
Speaker 2: It's going to be great to rest for those top eight.
36:53
Speaker 2: You're going to get a rest.
36:54
Speaker 6: Except that with the 12-team playoff, the teams that have
36:58
Speaker 6: gotten the bye week haven't won anything the last three years.
37:02
Speaker 6: They've had a week off, and those are the teams
37:04
Speaker 6: that have struggled.
37:05
Speaker 2: Because they had the seeding wrong. Because remember, right? Fair.
37:10
Speaker 8: Fair.
37:10
Speaker 2: They're going to have a true seeding next time.
37:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
37:13
Speaker 2: Because number 24 ain't going to go far. You know,
37:15
Speaker 2: I'm with you in the long run.
37:17
Speaker 10: Right.
37:18
Speaker 2: But what I hate is we're tweaking a great product because,
37:22
Speaker 2: like you said, last night, it's not really broken, but
37:26
Speaker 2: guess what? They want more money.
37:27
Speaker 6: More is not always better, like we said with the
37:29
Speaker 6: NCAA basketball tournament. I'm still very much against that.
37:32
Speaker 2: I'm with you there. I'm against that, too.
37:34
Speaker 6: So, yeah, more. How many is it now?
37:37
Speaker 8: 71?
37:38
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know. It's just ridiculous.
37:41
Speaker 2: Like Rusty says, there's nothing we can do about it,
37:43
Speaker 2: but I like complaining.
37:44
Speaker 6: Well, that's why we're here. That's why we're the grumpy
37:47
Speaker 6: old men.
37:48
Speaker 2: I like 12. Get off my yard.
37:50
Speaker 6: Get off my yard, you kids. Stay off my yard.
37:53
Speaker 2: But I do like 12.
37:54
Speaker 8: I just mowed it.
37:59
Speaker 2: And gave up a half of college football.
38:01
Speaker 8: You didn't miss anything.
38:03
Speaker 6: Yeah. It's fine.
38:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, well.
38:06
Speaker 2: You know, I like the 12 because we know 10
38:09
Speaker 2: only go. So there's a cutoff. Now if you're going
38:12
Speaker 2: to add 12. You're going to be 19 at large, Vince,
38:14
Speaker 2: and I saw that, 19 at large.
38:17
Speaker 6: What does A & M have to do to have
38:20
Speaker 6: a chance Saturday, Cease?
38:22
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you touched on it. It gets back
38:25
Speaker 2: to be a line of scrimmage league. I mean, Tennessee
38:27
Speaker 2: won because they ran the ball and Alabama couldn't. I mean,
38:31
Speaker 2: sometimes it gets to be so basic. And I heard
38:34
Speaker 2: you driving over. We all know turnovers are huge. Unless
38:37
Speaker 2: you're so inept, like A & M is an offense,
38:40
Speaker 2: you get a turnover inside the 15, you can't score.
38:42
Speaker 2: You don't even get three points. So, I mean, you know,
38:44
Speaker 2: it's like. Where did I say that?
38:46
Speaker 8: Yeah. Missouri?
38:47
Speaker 11: Yeah.
38:47
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's just like I keep saying it,
38:51
Speaker 2: and I say it for the third time. I look
38:53
Speaker 2: for A & M to be better, but I said
38:56
Speaker 2: the same thing about Missouri and LSU, and it didn't happen.
39:00
Speaker 2: Because I think they've got a very slim chance of winning.
39:03
Speaker 2: They're a two-touchdown underdog. But if they lose this game
39:07
Speaker 2: and don't play well, then you've got two weeks. You've
39:10
Speaker 2: got a week off to be reminded how bad you are,
39:14
Speaker 2: and then you've got to go on the road again.
39:15
Speaker 2: And then who are you going to beat when you're
39:18
Speaker 2: 4-4 coming off a bad loss? I think this is
39:20
Speaker 2: a big game for a lot of reasons.
39:22
Speaker 7: I've told you all before, there's like 25 college friends,
39:25
Speaker 7: and we still throw against the spread.
39:27
Speaker 8: We pick 15 games against the spread.
39:29
Speaker 6: Oh, I'd never do that.
39:30
Speaker 8: It's so hard.
39:31
Speaker 7: So we put 20 bucks in, and there's a winner
39:34
Speaker 7: each week. So I'm going to take A & M.
39:37
Speaker 6: I think A & M will cover the spread.
39:40
Speaker 2: 14 halves a lot?
39:41
Speaker 8: Because I think Alabama is just wounded.
39:43
Speaker 2: Yes, they are. They're hurt.
39:45
Speaker 8: Now, having said that, I'm barely above 500. Well, that's good.
39:50
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Barely above 500 against the spread.
39:52
Speaker 2: That's good. If you give me 20 bucks, I'll put
39:55
Speaker 2: money on Alabama too.
39:58
Speaker 6: I'll put your 20 bucks on that.
40:00
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40:02
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40:06
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40:10
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40:13
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Speaker 6: by First Financial Bank and Intech. You guys are probably
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Speaker 6: realistic and not optimistic on these last five games. There's
43:53
Speaker 6: still five games left. These games aren't quite as difficult. Now,
43:59
Speaker 6: one has changed, the home game against Tennessee, right? That's
44:03
Speaker 6: gotten tougher. Yeah. The South Carolina game is probably about
44:08
Speaker 6: what we thought.
44:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, middle of the road. Middle of the road. Yeah,
44:11
Speaker 2: that's what I think. Oklahoma isn't nearly.
44:14
Speaker 6: Yes, it is. It's very difficult. Oklahoma isn't nearly as
44:17
Speaker 6: difficult as what we thought at the beginning of the season.
44:21
Speaker 6: And right now, despite all the talent, it was always
44:25
Speaker 6: going to be a toss-up game in my mind with Texas.
44:28
Speaker 6: Because of the rivalry.
44:28
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
44:29
Speaker 2: Even more so now than ever, I think.
44:31
Speaker 14: Well, I mean.
44:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, they may both be playing to go to a
44:36
Speaker 6: bowl game.
44:37
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, bragging rights might be really
44:40
Speaker 2: the only thing they play for.
44:42
Speaker 11: Yeah.
44:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
44:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, at the very best, Chip, I would
44:48
Speaker 7: think two wins.
44:50
Speaker 2: We talked last week, I'm still at two at the
44:52
Speaker 2: over and under. I'm going to say two. Two of
44:54
Speaker 2: those five. I was going to say two of those. Okay.
44:57
Speaker 2: I would say I wouldn't go any more. I give
45:00
Speaker 2: the over and under two on your betting. Yeah, I mean,
45:02
Speaker 2: the most I could possibly give. I really lean towards one,
45:06
Speaker 2: but I could see two happening.
45:08
Speaker 14: Yeah.
45:09
Speaker 2: I think it's, once again, you actually subconsciously root, obviously,
45:13
Speaker 2: for the hometown team, and that's why I would go two. Because,
45:16
Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you, what I've seen so far,
45:19
Speaker 2: I don't think they could win one what they've done.
45:22
Speaker 2: They've got to get better, and I've seen six.
45:23
Speaker 5: Seven games.
45:24
Speaker 7: The interesting thing here is that Mike Elko is on no.
45:31
Speaker 8: Kind of hot seat. True. In my opinion.
45:34
Speaker 2: Mine too.
45:35
Speaker 7: So there's no danger of him. Even if they were
45:38
Speaker 7: to go winless, it would be a lost season. But
45:41
Speaker 7: he's the guy who so... properly evaluated his first two years.
45:47
Speaker 7: So you've got to give him the benefit of the
45:49
Speaker 7: doubt in this era of, well, let's go see how
45:53
Speaker 7: he fixes this.
45:55
Speaker 6: I read an article not too long ago by one
45:57
Speaker 6: of the college, national college writers saying the same thing.
46:00
Speaker 6: It's like fans are going to have to Except that
46:03
Speaker 6: there's going to be down years because of what you
46:05
Speaker 6: just said. Coaches are going to miss on players they
46:10
Speaker 6: thought they were hitting on.
46:11
Speaker 2: It's like playing the stock market, if I could see it.
46:13
Speaker 2: You're not going to win every year. If you did,
46:15
Speaker 2: you'd be rich.
46:17
Speaker 6: Which goes back to development. You're not going to have
46:23
Speaker 6: many of these four-year and certainly five-year guys that you
46:26
Speaker 6: used to have.
46:27
Speaker 2: You need them. You've got to have them.
46:30
Speaker 6: I was looking at Indiana's offensive line and how many
46:33
Speaker 6: of those guys have started. Obviously, some of this goes
46:37
Speaker 6: back to even James Madison now. It's been only three years.
46:43
Speaker 6: All the Indiana starters on the front line, they've They've
46:47
Speaker 6: started 60-plus games.
46:50
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of games.
46:52
Speaker 8: Especially together.
46:53
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. You can't gel an offensive line
46:57
Speaker 2: like that. That's correct.
46:58
Speaker 8: And it's not anymore.
46:59
Speaker 7: And so A & M, I thought, I was really
47:01
Speaker 7: excited about the offensive linemen they got because they're all
47:04
Speaker 7: SEC offensive linemen. But they're not as good in reality.
47:08
Speaker 8: As they looked on paper.
47:10
Speaker 2: Ask Sark about that in Austin.
47:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
47:12
Speaker 2: He did the same thing.
47:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.
47:13
Speaker 2: It's because I'm going, they had two great years. brought
47:17
Speaker 2: in all SEC talent. I go, that's smart. They were
47:20
Speaker 2: good in the SEC. A & M' s in the SEC.
47:22
Speaker 8: And he brought in a couple of pro players like
47:25
Speaker 8: the kicker. I'm serious. The kicker and the punter.
47:27
Speaker 6: Are going to be pro players.
47:28
Speaker 2: Yes, they are.
47:29
Speaker 8: And he put an emphasis on that, and he nailed it.
47:33
Speaker 6: He did. Special teams have been great.
47:34
Speaker 2: The putter was here, though, Tyler.
47:36
Speaker 8: Oh, that's right.
47:37
Speaker 2: The other guy.
47:38
Speaker 8: Alano.
47:38
Speaker 2: That was a good investment, Alano. But he whiffed on
47:42
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. Now, what's funny is he
47:44
Speaker 2: said today, now whether it's true, these guys are coming on.
47:46
Speaker 2: They're healthy. He said, like, the Colorado transfers, they were
47:49
Speaker 2: banged up, hurt a little bit. Once again, will we
47:52
Speaker 2: see that? Because I go back, I'm still shocked that
47:56
Speaker 2: Arkansas won a game. But once again, as you have
47:58
Speaker 2: all these guys, when does the light go on? I
48:00
Speaker 2: go back to... When the light went on for Jackie
48:03
Speaker 2: Sherrill and them in 85, that team was not good,
48:06
Speaker 2: but they beat TCU in Texas. Then they were on
48:08
Speaker 2: their way. The problem is, all you have is this year.
48:12
Speaker 2: So could A & M get clicked to get three
48:15
Speaker 2: wins right now?
48:16
Speaker 8: You're comparing apples and oranges, right?
48:18
Speaker 6: Right, exactly.
48:18
Speaker 8: Jackie has a bunch of young talent.
48:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's not going to be layovers. There's not
48:23
Speaker 6: going to be guys that won't be back.
48:25
Speaker 2: It's just this year. So how many can you win
48:26
Speaker 2: this year? And once again, if he could win... Three
48:31
Speaker 2: games and one of them Texas, he'd salvage the year.
48:34
Speaker 8: Do we still have red shirts? You never hear of
48:37
Speaker 8: red shirts.
48:37
Speaker 2: Or gray shirts. Yeah, you never hear about these red
48:39
Speaker 2: shirts anymore. You get money for five years and you're gone.
48:42
Speaker 2: That's the new rules.
48:43
Speaker 8: Yeah.
48:44
Speaker 2: You get green for five years. Forget the gray, forget
48:46
Speaker 2: the red.
48:47
Speaker 6: Yes. It's green.
48:48
Speaker 8: They're all green shirts.
48:49
Speaker 2: It's all green shirts. How many green shirts do you
48:52
Speaker 2: have in your wallet? That's what it boils down to.
48:53
Speaker 6: And how do you, we've talked about this too, but
48:57
Speaker 6: how do you keep a team together that is not
49:00
Speaker 6: meeting expectations? that theoretically don't have a lot of loyalty
49:06
Speaker 6: to the program, right?
49:08
Speaker 2: They've come.
49:09
Speaker 6: They like their coaches, but they like the money better,
49:13
Speaker 6: and they haven't grown up wanting to be.
49:16
Speaker 8: There's a hand.
49:20
Speaker 6: But wanting to be an Aggie.
49:22
Speaker 2: They've come from other places. Go back to your interviews
49:24
Speaker 2: on the first hour of the two Georgia guys. You go,
49:27
Speaker 2: why would you leave Georgia to come here? They liked
49:30
Speaker 2: what was here. They liked me. They liked the coaches,
49:32
Speaker 2: but once again... That was Gregory, the receiver. How do
49:34
Speaker 2: you keep everybody together?
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Speaker 8: But the odds of him staying here for four.
49:37
Speaker 2: Years is not very good.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: They're not very good.
49:40
Speaker 2: It's amazing how that works.
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Speaker 6: Because if he makes it and he's got four other
49:44
Speaker 6: guys that he's trying to beat out, he'll go somewhere
49:47
Speaker 6: that'll pay him more that he doesn't have to beat those,
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Speaker 6: those guys out.
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Speaker 2: And if Kirby Smart calls and says, Hey, you want
49:52
Speaker 2: to come home? We'll give you a, we'll give you
49:54
Speaker 2: a half a million more. You know, there's so many
49:56
Speaker 2: examples of guys.
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Speaker 6: Uh, if, uh, Eli Drinkwood's today during his press conference, again,
50:02
Speaker 6: it's about two minutes. If you have a chance, pull
50:04
Speaker 6: it up. He's talking about this very same thing. Uh,
50:08
Speaker 6: He said, grass is not always greener. He said, I
50:11
Speaker 6: love every one of these guys. I don't expect some
50:15
Speaker 6: of them to be here next year. He said, that's
50:17
Speaker 6: the way that it is. But it was a really
50:20
Speaker 6: good little just two-minute soundbite about how things are now.
50:24
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about Evan Stewart, who got in trouble this
50:27
Speaker 6: weekend in Oregon. Oh, did he?
50:29
Speaker 2: I missed that.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: DUI, you know, and.
50:34
Speaker 2: What if he'd have stayed here?
50:36
Speaker 6: Do you think he would have had opportunity to catch
50:39
Speaker 6: footballs on this year's team?
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Speaker 2: I think he would have. Yeah, there's no doubt.
50:43
Speaker 6: They wouldn't have brought Isaiah Horton in, who hasn't done much.
50:48
Speaker 8: He's been very disappointed.
50:50
Speaker 2: Dropped a touchdown pass Saturday.
50:52
Speaker 7: Well, he allowed a pass to be batted away because
50:56
Speaker 7: he didn't go high point it.
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Speaker 6: That was one of them.
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Speaker 8: That was terrible.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
50:59
Speaker 8: I mean.
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Speaker 6: But I'm just, you know, that's just one of thousands
51:05
Speaker 6: of examples.
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Speaker 5: That's NIL, though. Yes.
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Speaker 2: That's what you're looking at.
51:08
Speaker 6: But the point is, will there be a time ever
51:13
Speaker 6: where guys look around at all of this chaos and
51:18
Speaker 6: failure and say, you know, and some guys will.
51:22
Speaker 2: A handful will say, I think I'm better off here.
51:25
Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 14: Right.
51:26
Speaker 6: I think I'm better off staying, if you like the coaches,
51:32
Speaker 6: if you like your position coach, right?
51:34
Speaker 2: I think at some point you're going to realize that.
51:35
Speaker 2: If you like the support of the university.
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Speaker 11: Right.
51:38
Speaker 2: Man.
51:38
Speaker 8: There will be a handful for sure.
51:40
Speaker 6: The thing about Saban, and he's not the only one
51:43
Speaker 6: that said that, but when he was recruiting LSU and
51:47
Speaker 6: he said, we're putting a fence around Louisiana because he
51:50
Speaker 6: had that one year where he brought all the top
51:53
Speaker 6: eight players in and ended up winning a national championship.
51:56
Speaker 6: And he was trying to talk them into coming to
51:58
Speaker 6: a program that was terrible when he got there. They
52:00
Speaker 6: didn't know Nick Saban. They didn't care about Nick. Nick
52:03
Speaker 6: Saban wasn't Nick Saban then. Oh, no. And he said,
52:06
Speaker 6: you need to make a 40-year decision, not a four-year decision.
52:11
Speaker 6: Because if you come here and win in your home state,
52:16
Speaker 6: there'll never be anything like it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And Marcus Spears believed him.
52:22
Speaker 6: And there was one other kid on offense that believed him,
52:24
Speaker 6: that was the player. And they ended up winning a
52:28
Speaker 6: national championship.
52:28
Speaker 7: That's the thing that they're going to miss out on,
52:31
Speaker 7: is they're going to miss out on the Aggie Network.
52:34
Speaker 2: And that's very, very powerful. But you can't tell a
52:35
Speaker 2: kid that.
52:36
Speaker 8: No, I know, because they're already making $ 3 million.
52:39
Speaker 6: Well, that and they're going to the NFL, right? They
52:42
Speaker 6: don't care about the Aggie Network. They're thinking in their mind,
52:47
Speaker 6: I don't need that, right? I mean, that's great.
52:49
Speaker 2: I love it.
52:50
Speaker 6: But I don't need that because, like you said, I'm
52:54
Speaker 6: already making money. I'm about to make a lot more.
52:56
Speaker 8: Well, Marcel Reed is a very, very sharp guy.
52:58
Speaker 5: Yes, he is.
52:58
Speaker 8: Well-spoken guy.
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Speaker 13: Yes, he is.
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Speaker 7: And he's probably not going to be the quarterback at
53:02
Speaker 7: Texas A & M next year. But that network will
53:06
Speaker 7: take care of him as long as, you know, because
53:10
Speaker 7: he was true to A & M.
53:12
Speaker 6: Yes.
53:13
Speaker 7: And so those guys need to think about that because
53:16
Speaker 7: the reality is Marcel is never probably going to make
53:19
Speaker 7: $ 3 million in a year again, right?
53:20
Speaker 11: Yeah.
53:22
Speaker 7: He's going to have to go get a real job
53:23
Speaker 7: because he's not going to be an NFL quarterback. And
53:27
Speaker 7: he's going to have to go from $ 3 million to
53:29
Speaker 7: maybe making $ 70, 000 in a first-year job.
53:33
Speaker 8: And that's going to be– hopefully he's saving his money.
53:36
Speaker 6: Man, if I made $ 70, 000 when I had my first year.
53:39
Speaker 8: I made $ 75, 000. I made less.
53:42
Speaker 2: And, Chip, today when Elka was asked about players going
53:46
Speaker 2: back to teams they played with, What did he mention?
53:49
Speaker 6: State.
53:49
Speaker 2: Your home state. Going back home. That's what matters.
53:53
Speaker 5: Yep.
53:53
Speaker 2: And that's what we're talking about. Sometimes if you can
53:57
Speaker 2: play for your hometown, like you said, LSU, and there's
54:00
Speaker 2: a lot to be said for that, and a lot
54:02
Speaker 2: of times people will say, like, man, I should have
54:04
Speaker 2: stayed with my. Should have stayed home. Should have stayed home.
54:07
Speaker 8: Yeah.
54:07
Speaker 2: It's tough, but some people want to leave home. Yeah,
54:10
Speaker 2: that's fine.
54:12
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just a whole different game, and it
54:16
Speaker 6: has changed everything about the game, but guess what? We
54:21
Speaker 6: had Saturday, man. I'm not saying we can have another
54:25
Speaker 6: one this year like that, but that was unreal.
54:28
Speaker 7: If it's me, I'm going to make sure that Kamario
54:32
Speaker 7: Taylor has to turn me down next year.
54:34
Speaker 16: Oh, I understand.
54:36
Speaker 2: You and about 25 others. And I'd argue now that
54:39
Speaker 2: we're going to go to 24 teams, there'll even be
54:42
Speaker 2: more money out there for high school players and for
54:45
Speaker 2: college players.
54:45
Speaker 8: I know he's a Mississippi guy, but I'm going to say, hey,
54:47
Speaker 8: you know what? You can always go back to Mississippi.
54:48
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be even more money. Are
54:51
Speaker 2: you going to recruit him? Are you going to offer
54:54
Speaker 2: to recruit him?
54:54
Speaker 8: My dollars are not going to be included.
54:56
Speaker 2: Saban already said, you know, he made a joke. I'd
54:59
Speaker 2: be over there waiting. trying to get that Mississippi State quarterback.
55:02
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what it is.
55:03
Speaker 8: He will not be at Mississippi State next year, I
55:05
Speaker 8: would guess.
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Speaker 2: Boy, if he is. More power to him. He might
55:09
Speaker 2: have got every dollar in Mississippi that's left. Well, and
55:12
Speaker 2: he might. He might be worth it. You know, he might.
55:14
Speaker 2: And if you said he's a Mississippi kid, I mean,
55:17
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a– I heard he's real loyal
55:19
Speaker 2: to Mississippi. We'll see.
55:22
Speaker 6: Maybe he'll go to Ole Miss.
55:25
Speaker 2: That would make the Egg Bowl fun. Kiffin's not there anymore,
55:28
Speaker 2: is he?
55:29
Speaker 6: No, Kiffin's not there anymore. All right, gentlemen.
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