Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Alyssa D'Errico on Utah Volleyball season starting this week, Her first year as head coach, Taking over for a legendary coach + more
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- 0:04Speaker 1: You were listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the
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- 0:11Speaker 1: to one, alf Am.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Shaan O'Connell Show.
- 0:21Speaker 3: We start our number two with Utah volleyball head coach
- 0:24Speaker 3: Alissa di Rico, first time on the show.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Coach, welcome, How are you.
- 0:30Speaker 4: I'm great, how are you?
- 0:31Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you giving us some time.
- 0:34Speaker 3: There's a bit of a theme with the fall sports
- 0:36Speaker 3: up there at the University of Utah. You know, you
- 0:40Speaker 3: and Morgan Scaley both taking over as first year head
- 0:43Speaker 3: coaches for legendary predecessors on the volleyball front. Tell me
- 0:47Speaker 3: what it feels like to step in to the big
- 0:50Speaker 3: gap left by your predecessor, Bethloneir.
- 0:54Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been.
- 0:56Speaker 5: It's been.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Also, I feel very fortunate that, similar to Coach Scally here,
- 1:02Speaker 4: that I was able to be here for you know,
- 1:05Speaker 4: a few years, not as long as him, but long
- 1:08Speaker 4: enough to know all of the support staff and know
- 1:11Speaker 4: the players and know the administration and really build those connections.
- 1:15Speaker 4: And Bess was great. And when I came here, you know,
- 1:18Speaker 4: I told her I wanted to be a head coach,
- 1:20Speaker 4: and I didn't think that that opportunity was going to
- 1:22Speaker 4: be at Utah, but I'm grateful it was.
- 1:25Speaker 5: But she really opened the doors to the program for me.
- 1:28Speaker 4: And allowed me to be a part of you know
- 1:31Speaker 4: a lot of different meetings.
- 1:32Speaker 5: Get exposure to how things work.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Behind the scenes, and really had me involved in a
- 1:36Speaker 4: lot which helped make the transition pretty smooth. So it's
- 1:39Speaker 4: been it's been awesome.
- 1:41Speaker 3: So you've had a couple exhibition meets here. You had
- 1:45Speaker 3: Weaber State last Saturday, coming off of one with Oregon
- 1:51Speaker 3: number twenty five preseason ranking for the Oregon Ducks, and
- 1:55Speaker 3: you know, official scores and stats and things like this
- 1:58Speaker 3: not kept.
- 1:59Speaker 2: But what did you learn about your team?
- 2:01Speaker 3: What did you see in those that either you know,
- 2:04Speaker 3: gave you something to work on or that you liked.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I think both Both exhibitions were great for us,
- 2:13Speaker 4: just to get some exposure, you know, to what we
- 2:16Speaker 4: look like against somebody else. You know, it's our Our
- 2:19Speaker 4: gym has been super competitive, so it's pretty hard to
- 2:23Speaker 4: tell what we're good at and what we're not good
- 2:25Speaker 4: at when you're playing against yourself. And so I think
- 2:28Speaker 4: we learned a lot about where we are. We had
- 2:31Speaker 4: some benchmarks in the off season that we had set
- 2:34Speaker 4: of some goals to you know, be at a sweet
- 2:36Speaker 4: sixteen Elite eight level statistically, and with both of the scrimmages,
- 2:42Speaker 4: you know, Weaver State, we met six of those eight benchmarks,
- 2:45Speaker 4: and against Oregon, we we did really well and you know,
- 2:50Speaker 4: met I think four of those eight benchmarks against a
- 2:55Speaker 4: really really good team and played very.
- 2:57Speaker 5: Well throughout the course of that match. So I think
- 3:00Speaker 5: lots of good stuff was exposed offensively.
- 3:02Speaker 4: I think we're really physical defensively, also really physical, epidet
- 3:07Speaker 4: and hard to score on with a great backcourt behind it.
- 3:10Speaker 4: And I think our setters had done an unbelievable job
- 3:13Speaker 4: distributing the ball for our offense to really flow and
- 3:16Speaker 4: find that groove.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Give me a sense of what you mean by the benchmarks,
- 3:20Speaker 3: like what target had you set that you were able
- 3:22Speaker 3: to hit on some cases and not on others.
- 3:25Speaker 4: Yeah, So earning points in volleyball.
- 3:28Speaker 5: Is a big thing, and so one of the biggest
- 3:30Speaker 5: benchmarks that we were.
- 3:31Speaker 4: Pretty behind in previous years was points per set earned
- 3:35Speaker 4: as a team. We found you know, from the last
- 3:39Speaker 4: I think three years, we did a study and earning
- 3:42Speaker 4: over eighteen points a set is.
- 3:44Speaker 5: Like a pretty good indicator that you're going to win
- 3:46Speaker 5: a lot of matches.
- 3:47Speaker 4: And so through our first two scrimmages, right now we're
- 3:51Speaker 4: earning over eighteen points a set against both Oregon and Weaver,
- 3:54Speaker 4: which was awesome.
- 3:56Speaker 5: Kills per set was another.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Big indicator, and we were a couple of kills percent
- 4:00Speaker 4: below the benchmark it was fourteen, is like a good
- 4:05Speaker 4: good kills percent number for top teams. And right now
- 4:09Speaker 4: through the first two we've been at like thirteen point
- 4:11Speaker 4: nine kills percent, So lots of good little things that
- 4:15Speaker 4: we were looking at.
- 4:16Speaker 5: And then on the defensive.
- 4:17Speaker 4: Side, our dig percentage was about ten percent below where
- 4:21Speaker 4: we would want it to be.
- 4:23Speaker 5: Which is a good good indicator of.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Stopping the opponents from scoring points. And we are right
- 4:30Speaker 4: now five percent higher than what the benchmark was that
- 4:35Speaker 4: we found.
- 4:35Speaker 5: So just lots of good stuff statistically for us to
- 4:38Speaker 5: be like, hey, the work we're putting in is paying off.
- 4:42Speaker 3: You'll have to forgive some dumb questions from like a
- 4:44Speaker 3: novice volleyball watcher, you know what I mean, But like, okay,
- 4:48Speaker 3: so you know you've got you've got your your blockers
- 4:52Speaker 3: at the net, and you want to have good defense
- 4:54Speaker 3: behind them and stuff. But like in an ideal world,
- 4:58Speaker 3: is a dig kind of stat that like, yeah, we
- 5:01Speaker 3: we want to be able to dig it out if
- 5:03Speaker 3: it gets to that point, but I don't want you
- 5:05Speaker 3: to have to dig it out. Like how how do
- 5:07Speaker 3: you approach that as a coach to where it's like,
- 5:09Speaker 3: you know, it seems like again novice stuff here where
- 5:12Speaker 3: you're like, you don't want that stat. You don't want
- 5:15Speaker 3: to be great in that stat if you could avoid
- 5:16Speaker 3: being great in that stat.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Is that is that correct?
- 5:20Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a combination of your front court and your
- 5:23Speaker 4: backcourt defense. So it would be like obviously, your you know,
- 5:29Speaker 4: defensive line in football has to be great in order
- 5:32Speaker 4: for running backs just not to have free reign, you know,
- 5:35Speaker 4: down the field. So our front court defense, our blockers
- 5:40Speaker 4: have to be really physical in order to make our
- 5:44Speaker 4: back court defense easier. And so yes and no, like
- 5:49Speaker 4: we we want that number to be good because the
- 5:52Speaker 4: best teams are are gonna hit around the block, hit
- 5:55Speaker 4: over the block, and our back court has to be
- 5:58Speaker 4: able to dig the ball when that happened. But our
- 6:01Speaker 4: front court has to do its job to get the
- 6:05Speaker 4: ball to the right place or to terminally block it
- 6:09Speaker 4: at the dent. So one of our other goals was
- 6:12Speaker 4: to terminally block close.
- 6:14Speaker 5: To three balls a set, which is really elite. Through
- 6:17Speaker 5: the spring, we.
- 6:18Speaker 4: Were at that number. Right now we are below that number.
- 6:22Speaker 4: But part of that is also opponent dependent. You know,
- 6:26Speaker 4: you can't you can't limit the run game in football.
- 6:29Speaker 4: If the opponent doesn't like to run.
- 6:31Speaker 5: The ball, they if they like to throw it, You're
- 6:33Speaker 5: gonna have less opportunities to stop this. And so for us,
- 6:37Speaker 5: we've we've played.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Some teams in Weber and in Oregon that avoided the
- 6:42Speaker 4: block a little bit more, which makes it more difficult
- 6:45Speaker 4: to see that stat really where you would want it
- 6:48Speaker 4: to be, if that makes sense.
- 6:49Speaker 5: So I appreciate the questions. I love trying to explain
- 6:52Speaker 5: volleyball and get new fans on board. So no, no
- 6:56Speaker 5: question is a bad question for me.
- 6:58Speaker 3: I appreciate that you you change it to football terms
- 7:01Speaker 3: for my feeble mind, just knowing that that's probably a
- 7:04Speaker 3: place where I might have some familiarity.
- 7:06Speaker 2: That's that's very nice of you to do.
- 7:09Speaker 3: When we talk about physicality at the net, this is
- 7:12Speaker 3: another thing I'm always fascinated by, like how much of
- 7:15Speaker 3: a certain aspect of these games, how much of it
- 7:17Speaker 3: in this case volleyball, how much of that is coachable?
- 7:20Speaker 3: And how much of that is like you just have
- 7:21Speaker 3: to recruit the players that have that.
- 7:24Speaker 2: In them for sure.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I think physicality is both something you can develop
- 7:32Speaker 4: in some ways, but definitely.
- 7:34Speaker 5: Something that is you know, you have to recruit.
- 7:38Speaker 4: And for me and for us, we don't view physicality
- 7:42Speaker 4: necessarily as one hundred percent. You know, how tall you
- 7:45Speaker 4: are in volleyball, it's more how high can you jump
- 7:48Speaker 4: and how high can you play? So we have a
- 7:51Speaker 4: range on our team of you know, six, five to
- 7:55Speaker 4: five nine that are all playing front row. But the
- 7:58Speaker 4: general scene is that all of our most physical attackers
- 8:02Speaker 4: are touching well over ten feet and so you know,
- 8:07Speaker 4: you look at a basketball rim, and the rims ten
- 8:09Speaker 4: feet and I think the highest toucher on our team
- 8:12Speaker 4: right now is ten seven and a half, so they
- 8:14Speaker 4: could probably they could probably dunk.
- 8:17Speaker 3: And who is touching ten seven and a half right now?
- 8:21Speaker 4: Lauren Helgeson is touching ten seven and a half. But
- 8:25Speaker 4: Cameron get bad Low our outside is touching ten seven.
- 8:29Speaker 4: I think we have eight or nine athletes that are
- 8:32Speaker 4: you know ten four and higher, so they're easily able
- 8:35Speaker 4: to go, you know, touch and grab the rim, which
- 8:38Speaker 4: the height of the volleyball net is only you know
- 8:42Speaker 4: seven five ish, and so when you look at how
- 8:47Speaker 4: high they're jumping and how high they can play, that's
- 8:49Speaker 4: a certain level of physicality.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And at the.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Highest level you're going to see a lot of players
- 8:54Speaker 4: on the other team that are touching you know, ten
- 8:56Speaker 4: six and above, and so we have to have the
- 8:59Speaker 4: ability to go play at that height above the nut.
- 9:02Speaker 4: But then the other thing is, you know, how hard
- 9:04Speaker 4: can you hit the ball? And I just saw this
- 9:06Speaker 4: on ESPN for the pit game, watching it back on TV,
- 9:10Speaker 4: and they equated digging a volleyball hit at fifty five
- 9:15Speaker 4: to sixty miles an hour down the line is like
- 9:18Speaker 4: facing one hundred and thirty five to one hundred and
- 9:21Speaker 4: forty five mile per hour fastball in baseball. And so
- 9:25Speaker 4: you have to combine the height you play at with
- 9:27Speaker 4: how hard you can hit the ball. And that's the
- 9:30Speaker 4: most physical players.
- 9:31Speaker 5: In the country are going to jump really high and
- 9:33Speaker 5: hit really hard. So we got to have a mix
- 9:36Speaker 5: of both.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Lauren Helgeson, by the way, for all the local listeners.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Davis High School product, so home homegrown, touching ten seven
- 9:45Speaker 3: and a half.
- 9:45Speaker 2: That's wild.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, you just brought up another number here.
- 9:50Speaker 3: That's We had a conversation last week talking about the
- 9:53Speaker 3: reaction time required to hit and we were talking about
- 9:56Speaker 3: one hundred and five mile an hour fastballs in Major
- 9:59Speaker 3: League Baseball because we did the math and it's like
- 10:03Speaker 3: it's literally quicker than the blink of an eye that
- 10:05Speaker 3: you have to just just swing to execute a swing
- 10:09Speaker 3: on like a Miserowski pitch this year because he hit
- 10:11Speaker 3: one oh five point five on the gun or whatever.
- 10:14Speaker 3: So when when someone's elevating to hit and you know
- 10:19Speaker 3: it's a big hitter, you know it's someone that's got
- 10:21Speaker 3: power and they're gonna do their best to put it
- 10:24Speaker 3: on the correct angle and obviously they're gonna maybe paint
- 10:28Speaker 3: those lines and things like that. You don't have less
- 10:32Speaker 3: than a blink of an eye to like react, right,
- 10:34Speaker 3: You have to anticipate where that thing is going. Coach,
- 10:38Speaker 3: how is that taught? How do you coach that? Is
- 10:40Speaker 3: that a film study? Is that this girl's tendency is
- 10:43Speaker 3: to go deep with it? Is this someone who's gonna
- 10:45Speaker 3: try to spike it right down, Like, give me some
- 10:48Speaker 3: sense of how your defenders, especially your backcourt defenders are
- 10:51Speaker 3: trying to anticipate where that hit is going to land.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very similar to other sports. We do one
- 11:00Speaker 4: of scout video on opponents, and.
- 11:05Speaker 5: This year we changed it a little bit that we.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Basically want you to be an expert on the thing
- 11:11Speaker 4: that you're going to see the most. So if I'm
- 11:15Speaker 4: a right side blocker, I'm going to see mostly left
- 11:20Speaker 4: side attacks, and so I need to know where the
- 11:24Speaker 4: ball crosses the net more often than not, what their
- 11:27Speaker 4: you know, arm swing.
- 11:28Speaker 5: Tendency looks like, so that I can put myself in
- 11:30Speaker 5: the best position to go.
- 11:31Speaker 4: Try and block at the net against that attacker. But
- 11:35Speaker 4: the backcourt is watching.
- 11:36Speaker 5: The same thing, but with different, you know, different visual
- 11:39Speaker 5: attention of do they like to play you know, sharpened
- 11:44Speaker 5: down in front of you? Do they like to hit.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Deep and flat?
- 11:46Speaker 1: Like?
- 11:47Speaker 4: What things should you be expecting based on the set quality.
- 11:51Speaker 5: And that attackers tendency? So yeah, same same thing.
- 11:55Speaker 4: We study a lot of film try and pick up
- 11:57Speaker 4: you know, arm swing traits and characteristics and tendencies, and
- 12:02Speaker 4: we have a lot of visual statistics that we can
- 12:07Speaker 4: show them. We call them heat maps that show where
- 12:11Speaker 4: the attacker hits the most amount of volleyballs on the court.
- 12:15Speaker 4: So hopefully, you know, in game, they can correlate what
- 12:18Speaker 4: they've seen on video with what they see happening in
- 12:21Speaker 4: front of them in real time.
- 12:24Speaker 2: We're talking a little Utah volleyball.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Here on the Sean O'Connell Show, new head coach Alissa
- 12:29Speaker 3: d Rico kind enough to join us. I'm gonna give
- 12:32Speaker 3: you some unfair questions now, because I think it was
- 12:35Speaker 3: the I think it was the Soccer World Cup that
- 12:37Speaker 3: really brought this into focus for a lot of people.
- 12:40Speaker 2: When Team USA got eliminated.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Immediately the conversation goes to, well, how do we develop
- 12:45Speaker 3: the sport, how do we become a leade?
- 12:46Speaker 2: How do we get it better?
- 12:48Speaker 3: And that trickled down up, of course into the youth
- 12:51Speaker 3: sport conversation. And I'm watching a Little League World Series
- 12:54Speaker 3: on a TV in front of me right now, and
- 12:57Speaker 3: you know, like youth sport obviously be comes high school sport,
- 13:01Speaker 3: club sport, and then college sports and hopefully, you know,
- 13:05Speaker 3: the love volleyball LOVB can continue to thrive. So there's
- 13:09Speaker 3: a viable domestic league for your athletes to compete in
- 13:13Speaker 3: at the professional level, but going to the youth sport
- 13:16Speaker 3: front volleyball is one of these games where it is
- 13:21Speaker 3: a very robust business model, where it is a big
- 13:25Speaker 3: time commitment that the club volleyball, the travel volleyball is
- 13:30Speaker 3: an all encompassing, time consuming, like life gobbling affair for
- 13:35Speaker 3: the families that are trying to put their daughters onto
- 13:39Speaker 3: a Utah volleyball roster or whatever. And you as a
- 13:43Speaker 3: head coach, right, you're recruiting these athletes, and there's an
- 13:47Speaker 3: argument about letting them play basketball too, and letting them
- 13:50Speaker 3: play soccer also, and let them be track athletes. How
- 13:53Speaker 3: soon do you specialize if you are going to specialize,
- 13:56Speaker 3: and I want people, I want the parents out there
- 13:59Speaker 3: listening to hear it from the horse's mouth from the
- 14:01Speaker 3: person who is signing the scholarship checks effectively like this
- 14:05Speaker 3: is what I need from the development of players if
- 14:08Speaker 3: they want to be at this level.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, A couple a couple of things. I A
- 14:16Speaker 4: lot of clubs are probably not gonna like me for
- 14:18Speaker 4: saying this, but I love multiport athletes. I think it
- 14:26Speaker 4: counteracts the burnout factor.
- 14:30Speaker 5: You know, if you specialize too early and it's just
- 14:32Speaker 5: the thing that you do because it's the thing that
- 14:34Speaker 5: you do, versus the thing that you do because.
- 14:36Speaker 4: It's the thing that you love.
- 14:38Speaker 5: I think that there's something to be said about playing other.
- 14:42Speaker 4: Sports for as long as you can, and you know,
- 14:45Speaker 4: specializing once you get to college where it truly is
- 14:49Speaker 4: a job. And so I love I love multiport athletes.
- 14:53Speaker 4: We have a ton of them on our roster that
- 14:56Speaker 4: have done multiple sports, you know, anything from softball to
- 15:00Speaker 4: track to you know, basketball, Right like, I think that
- 15:04Speaker 4: there's there's growth in being the best athlete that you
- 15:09Speaker 4: can be when you get to college, and that comes
- 15:12Speaker 4: from learning how to move your body in a variety
- 15:14Speaker 4: of ways and learning how to handle and and play
- 15:17Speaker 4: different sports with different you know details. So I think
- 15:20Speaker 4: that that's point number one for me. I absolutely love
- 15:24Speaker 4: well rounded you know athletes that have done multiple things.
- 15:30Speaker 5: The second thing that kind.
- 15:31Speaker 4: Of goes along with that is for me to succeed
- 15:34Speaker 4: at this level and to have a chance to to
- 15:38Speaker 4: really make it and thrive, you truly have to love it.
- 15:42Speaker 4: And I think again, like deciding you know how when
- 15:46Speaker 4: to specialize and to do all of that, like you
- 15:50Speaker 4: truly love it if you're doing all of these things
- 15:52Speaker 4: and then you decide that this is the one. Like
- 15:55Speaker 4: I played basketball all the way through my senior year.
- 15:58Speaker 4: I played softball through my sophomore year of high school.
- 16:03Speaker 5: So I think that there's no.
- 16:04Speaker 4: Harm in it.
- 16:04Speaker 5: But I think for me being the best athlete that
- 16:07Speaker 5: you can be and the best student, which doing multiple
- 16:10Speaker 5: things helps with that. And then you know, truly having
- 16:12Speaker 5: a passionate love for the game when you get to
- 16:15Speaker 5: college is going to get you through the highs and
- 16:17Speaker 5: the lows of being a college athlete, because there's there's
- 16:20Speaker 5: going to be highs and there's for sure going to
- 16:22Speaker 5: be lows and challenging moments that you got to you
- 16:24Speaker 5: gotta have your why to fall back on and why
- 16:26Speaker 5: you love what you do.
- 16:29Speaker 3: All right, focusing again on your team. Regular season schedule
- 16:33Speaker 3: begins with a little little tournament. You've got Utah Valley,
- 16:38Speaker 3: You've got Utah Tech. What do you anticipate this is
- 16:42Speaker 3: four and five days from now?
- 16:45Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think Utah Valley is always good. We're
- 16:49Speaker 4: really fortunate that the state of Utah has great volleyball.
- 16:53Speaker 4: I think the last you know, three four, years, we've
- 16:55Speaker 4: had four or five teams in the NAA tournament between
- 16:58Speaker 4: Utah Valley, we were stayed Utah State by u US.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Utah Tech is you know, on the rise, and they've
- 17:05Speaker 4: they've had a great you know, last couple of years
- 17:07Speaker 4: as well, and so I think for us getting to
- 17:09Speaker 4: play you know, local teams.
- 17:11Speaker 5: But also know that we're going to be challenged is.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Awesome to start the year. So I'm excited. I think
- 17:17Speaker 4: Utah Valley is always you know, going to be a challenge,
- 17:20Speaker 4: especially us going down there and playing at their place,
- 17:23Speaker 4: but it'll be a great start to the season with
- 17:26Speaker 4: them and then Utah Tech on Saturday afternoon before we
- 17:30Speaker 4: get to come back here and play Oregon stay at home.
- 17:33Speaker 5: So yeah, I expect it.
- 17:34Speaker 4: To be just really really good volleyball. You know, the
- 17:37Speaker 4: state as a whole has a reputation for each program,
- 17:41Speaker 4: you know, competing at the top of their conference for
- 17:43Speaker 4: conference championships, so it's a good test for us early
- 17:46Speaker 4: in the season.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Coach, I know it's a busy time of year, and
- 17:50Speaker 3: I very much appreciate you giving us a few minutes today.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Good luck this weekend, and thanks.
- 17:56Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much for having me, I really
- 17:58Speaker 4: appreciate it.
- 17:59Speaker 3: That is Utah volleyball coach in her first year heading
- 18:02Speaker 3: into the initial campaign. Alyssa d Rico kind enough to
- 18:06Speaker 3: join us here on The Sean O'Connell Show.