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Gruesome Court Images Reveal Body of Teen Celeste Rivas, D4VD Fights to Stop Trial · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Bombshell Tonight in the D four VED court room aka
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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burke, it is Graham. Gruesome court images reveal
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Speaker 1: the body of teen girls Celeste revs as D four VD.
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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burks fights his best tooth and claw to
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Speaker 1: stop this trial. Good evening, I mean, see Grace, this
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Speaker 1: is crime stories. I want to thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Fourteen year old Celeste found decomposing in the
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Speaker 1: trunk of D four VD. David Anthony Burks tesla.
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Speaker 2: Who in this office is and was leaking information about
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Speaker 2: his fourteen year old child and her remains. It's a
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Speaker 2: violation of a court order.
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Speaker 1: The Medical Examiner's office was leaking information.
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Speaker 3: David did not take his eyes away from these photos.
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Speaker 3: He also kind of gave me the sense that he
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Speaker 3: was very relaxed and pourt almost like he was kind
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Speaker 3: of sitting in English class or something, you know, just
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Speaker 3: following along with the teacher. So you know, he would
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Speaker 3: sit back in his chair a little bit, he would
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Speaker 3: lean forward sometimes and and you know his mannerisms with
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Speaker 3: his attorney, they were interesting. She would blair Birk, would
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Speaker 3: rub his back. They would smile at each other. But again,
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Speaker 3: throughout the showing of these graphic photos. He didn't move,
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Speaker 3: he didn't flinch, He just stared at the screen. We
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Speaker 3: saw a closed back with lots of liquid and blood
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Speaker 3: and just insects sort of around it. And then we
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Speaker 3: would see the bag open with her arms and legs bloody,
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Speaker 3: and it was it was bad.
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Speaker 1: That's investigative journalist Lauren Conlin on X outside the courthouse
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Speaker 1: and we're taking you straight back into the courtroom and
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Speaker 1: very latest in the D four VD trial proceedings. But
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Speaker 1: after hearing her description of what is being seen in
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Speaker 1: the courtroom, I want to remind everyone what this is about.
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Speaker 1: It is about Celeste Rivas. This little girl, this girl,
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Speaker 1: Celeste Revs was killed, disarticulated and put in trash bags
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Speaker 1: like you leave it out on the street for the
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Speaker 1: garbage guys to pick up. Yeah, you think that's the
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Speaker 1: end of it, Well it's not. You cannot put out
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Speaker 1: a child in trash bags dead and think no one
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Speaker 1: is going to do a thing. Well, we are straight
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Speaker 1: out to the courthouse joining us now from LA US
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Speaker 1: get a reporter with the LA magazine, Taylor Parice Telor,
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Speaker 1: what is happening in the courtroom? What have we seen so.
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Speaker 4: Far, we've seen a lot of new information in the courtroom.
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Speaker 4: We've seen a lot of morbid pictures inside the courtroom.
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Speaker 4: Even season journalists are looking away from the screen because
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Speaker 4: it's too difficult to look at, whereas David Anthony Burke
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Speaker 4: is seen staring straight at the screen, very casual.
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Speaker 1: No, not even flinching, not even flinching. Okay, just stop
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Speaker 1: right there. Did I hear Lauren Conlin state that as
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Speaker 1: these images all we can see outside the courtroom are
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Speaker 1: sketch artist images and you can't make heads or tails
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Speaker 1: of it, that's a bad sign. I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: to Joe Scott Morgan on that what that means. But
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Speaker 1: the female defense attorney is like stroking defour D's back
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Speaker 1: as these images are being shown in the courtroom.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Blair Burk has defends attorney has been very comforting
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Speaker 4: to David while he said there in court and as
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Speaker 4: you said, the images that are shown in court, I've
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Speaker 4: been working alongside Lauren Conlin. She described them as unrecognizable.
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Speaker 4: Even best Silverman, the prosecutor, she had to ask what
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Speaker 4: she was looking at when they were showing images of
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Speaker 4: blessed remains.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us
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Speaker 1: out of this jurisdiction. Psychoanalyst, author of deal Breaker. She's
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Speaker 1: a star of a hitnee podcast All the Couch with
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall. She's on Peacock, She's on Bravo. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany massaging his back while the rest of the courtroom
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Speaker 1: is looking at distorted images of this child in a trash.
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Speaker 5: Bag, Nancy. It speaks to a collusion between Blair Burke
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Speaker 5: and DV forty, and that collusion is based upon one
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Speaker 5: thing money. It tells me that this particular attorney can
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Speaker 5: be bought for comfort. Right, he's paying her a lot
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Speaker 5: of money to stroke his back, and on the other hand,
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Speaker 5: he's sitting there like he's in an English class, which
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Speaker 5: also tells me that there's lack of cause and effect thinking.
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Speaker 5: There's lack of a sense of impending punishment or doom,
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Speaker 5: and this is a trait. I do not know DV
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Speaker 5: four d. I've never analyzed or seen him, but this
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Speaker 5: would be a trait of sociopathy where you feel you
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Speaker 5: are in charge of the situation when in fact the
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Speaker 5: situation is in charge of you.
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Speaker 1: We're showing video right now taken from d forbydy on
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Speaker 1: Twitch of him and Celeste. Now in this video, she
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Speaker 1: is a minor. Now you're hearing what was done to
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Speaker 1: this child and her body. Randolph Rice joining me, veteran
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, founder of Rice Law, former prosecutor as
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Speaker 1: well at Rice Law MD dot com. Randolph Rice, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. That is not a leg
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Speaker 1: to stand on. I didn't want to know. See no evil,
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Speaker 1: hear no evil, speak no evil, And some would argue
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Speaker 1: the financial guide, the adult in this scenario had about
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Speaker 1: six million reasons to stay dumb.
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Speaker 6: Listen now, First up, his financial manager spoke about everything
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Speaker 6: that David had to lose, basically talking about how big
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Speaker 6: his deals were, how much he was going to get
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Speaker 6: for each album, which was like a three million dollar
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Speaker 6: guarantee but could earn him anywhere upwards of six million dollars,
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Speaker 6: and that that was per album, which that was really
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Speaker 6: important because they were trying to lay the foundation of
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Speaker 6: what he had to lose if his relationship or alleged
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Speaker 6: relationship I should say, with Celeste was exposed, which that's
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Speaker 6: of course what the state is are you doing here
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Speaker 6: as motive? Right? That she was going to expose their relationship.
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Speaker 6: He didn't want to lose his fame, his celebrity, his money.
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Speaker 6: So this now illustrates how much money really was on
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Speaker 6: the line and what he would have to lose if
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Speaker 6: that relationship was exposed.
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Speaker 1: That is YouTube ani Elise, So Randolph Rice a pecuniary
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Speaker 1: or money interest. That's cold to pretend you don't know.
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean about the relationship, I mean about
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Speaker 1: the death. How can you pretend you don't know? Everybody
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Speaker 1: that walked in the house said, oh, what is that smell? Nancy?
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Speaker 7: This is great for the defense right now. Remember this
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Speaker 7: is a preliminary hearing. The prosecution is supposed to be
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Speaker 7: putting on their best witnesses, and now we've got a
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Speaker 7: witness who's essentially lying. They've said two different things. They
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Speaker 7: can't be he believed moving forward, and apparently they also
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Speaker 7: have a financial interest for testifying or saying whatever they're saying.
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Speaker 7: So this is going to be used against these two
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Speaker 7: witnesses or this witness at the trial.
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Speaker 1: Are also learning and I'm gonna circle back to you
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Speaker 1: on your novel unique theory that this is going well
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Speaker 1: for the defense, because should I believe you are my
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Speaker 1: lion eyes? What I am seeing is happening in the courtroom.
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Speaker 1: Blood on the back seat of D four vd's tesla,
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Speaker 1: and I think it was eleven air fresheners thrown around.
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Speaker 6: We know that Celeste was found inside the front trunk. However,
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Speaker 6: when they also lit up, the third row of seats
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Speaker 6: lit up like Christmas morning, meaning that it indicates at
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Speaker 6: one point she was inside that third row. They also
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Speaker 6: said that there were eleven air fresheners found inside the tesla,
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Speaker 6: obviously to conceal the odor of decomposing remains.
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Speaker 1: That is YouTube, Annie Elise, not to Taylor Perice joining
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Speaker 1: us there at the courthouse, investigative reporter with La magazine,
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Speaker 1: eleven air fresheners, a jury will do a backflip.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven the air freshures in the car, presumably to
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Speaker 4: cover up an odor. Most of them are not of
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Speaker 4: the center console. But one of the air fresheners actually
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Speaker 4: morbidly said, love is in the air.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about the blood found on the back the
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Speaker 1: third seat of the tesla. Taylor Perice, how it lit up,
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Speaker 1: as Anna Alash just stated, like a Christmas tree or
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Speaker 1: like the night skies she gave to comparisons obviously from
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Speaker 1: the use of luminol or some type of alternative light form.
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Speaker 1: So explain to me what was heard in the courtroom
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Speaker 1: about that third seat of D four d's tesla.
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Speaker 4: So there were a lot So in court they were
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Speaker 4: calling it British stains. Those stains, specifically the stains on
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Speaker 4: the map and in on a tesla or on the
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Speaker 4: charging cord were presumptive positive for blood. But British stain
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Speaker 4: found all over the tesla all throughout it, including the back.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher joining us a private investigator, the charging court
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Speaker 1: and the mats. Those are not in the car. Those
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Speaker 1: are in the garage, correct, Correct.
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Speaker 8: The garage had these rubber mats placeover because it was
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Speaker 8: primarily being used as like a game room slash gym,
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Speaker 8: so it had these rubber mats had like a mesh
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Speaker 8: texture to them, and the charging cord you know, with
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Speaker 8: the tesla.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. So that's not in the car.
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Speaker 1: Dave mac joining me, Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave, what
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Speaker 1: was found in the car? I'm trying to determine the
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Speaker 1: blood evidence in the cart.
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Speaker 2: Thing, Nancy, that could come out of. This was what
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Speaker 2: is being referred to as the blood on the third
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Speaker 2: row seating inside this Tesla model x H. This was
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Speaker 2: something that just blew up. It's been mentioned, you know
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Speaker 2: that it lit up like the night sky. The blood
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Speaker 2: stains that were found throughout the inside of that car,
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Speaker 2: coupled with Nancy you mentioned earlier, the air fresheners. You know,
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Speaker 2: these air fresheners. There were eleven of them, and they
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Speaker 2: were tucked into the back seat, into the little a
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Speaker 2: folder there, a pocket, so to speak, so they would
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Speaker 2: be out of sight, but they would still provide air
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Speaker 2: freshening capabilities. But again, blood throughout the inside of the car. Specifically, though,
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Speaker 2: as you ask, it's that third row seating that lit up.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, if you could describe the inside of the
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Speaker 1: Tesla to the best of your ability.
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Speaker 8: So it's got the second row of two like captain's
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Speaker 8: type seats, and then it's got a third row kind
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Speaker 8: of like bench seat. And I believe that that's where
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Speaker 8: they're saying that they found the street sevenis through luminol
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Speaker 8: of blood that have been cleaned up, you know.
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, I hardly know where to art right now.
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Speaker 1: You know I've got two children, John David and Lucy.
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Speaker 1: They're eighteen, they're about to go to college. None of
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Speaker 1: that will ever happen for Celeiste, never ever. And did
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Speaker 1: you know, Joe Scott, did you know? Her parents have
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Speaker 1: been in the courtroom and they've taken a lot of heat,
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Speaker 1: including from me. Why didn't your reporter missing? Why didn't
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Speaker 1: you look for her harder? Why was she getting ordered
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Speaker 1: up like Chinese food or repizza and sent over to
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Speaker 1: his house in an uber? I've given them a hard time,
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Speaker 1: but the reality is this, Their girl is dead.
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Speaker 9: Yep.
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Speaker 1: She will never go to her senior prime. She'll never
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Speaker 1: do all those endless college applications. She'll never get to
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Speaker 1: go out on her own. They can't watch her grow
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Speaker 1: and turn in to the incredible person she's meant to be. Instead,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, they are in this courtroom looking at the
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Speaker 1: images that Taylor Perese has described, images that are so
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Speaker 1: bizarre you can't even tell what they are, Joe Scott.
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Speaker 1: Before Joe Scott starts talking, this is Joseph Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 1: He is a death investigator, a renowned death investigator with
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Speaker 1: over ten thousand death scenes under his belt. He is
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Speaker 1: a star of a hit podcast, Body Bags with Joe
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. He's the author of Blood Beneath My Feet,
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Speaker 1: and he is a professor of forensics at Jacksonville State
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Speaker 1: University with a new world class criminal procedure facility. I
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Speaker 1: have personally toured. He is who I trusted to help
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Speaker 1: me recreate several murder scenes. That's who this is. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, what.
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Speaker 9: Well I got to tell you, Reflecting back to what
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Speaker 9: our friend Lauren said earlier, where she said that it
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Speaker 9: appeared as though that he was sitting in English class,
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Speaker 9: let me tell you what class he missed. He missed biology.
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Speaker 9: Because the moment that this young girl, and I'm saying girl,
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Speaker 9: her life was taken, decomposition started immediately. There's not enough
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Speaker 9: air fresheners in the world to stem what was going
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Speaker 9: on and also what people in this courtroom, including her parents,
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Speaker 9: have been subjected to. Nancy. I've been hearing reports from
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Speaker 9: friends of mine that have been there as well, and
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Speaker 9: they're saying they're using terms like unrecognizable, that you can't
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Speaker 9: make it out. So the family in the court is
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Speaker 9: taking a look at this and they're trying to make
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Speaker 9: heads or tails of it. Now. One of the big
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Speaker 9: questions that has come up relative to the degree to
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Speaker 9: which she was traumatized fatally. Remember we've talked about that
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Speaker 9: stab wound or the sharp force injury that's in the
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Speaker 9: right upper quadrant of the abdomen. People are saying, how
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Speaker 9: in the world, how in the world was a medical
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Speaker 9: examiner able to figure this out? Because she and that's
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Speaker 9: indicative of the fact that she is in such an
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Speaker 9: advanced state of decomposition, and that started immediately, and then
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Speaker 9: it was further exacerbated when she was placed into this tesla, which,
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Speaker 9: as we know in science, heat speeds things up. Okay,
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Speaker 9: so she's been going down her mortal remains have been
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Speaker 9: going down this road for some time. It is not
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Speaker 9: it is not surprising that her body was in this
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Speaker 9: state of decomposition, in that front in multiple bags, because
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Speaker 9: she has been so in depth, has been so further
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Speaker 9: mistreated over and over and over again.
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Speaker 10: Today was an absolutely crushing day in the preliminary here.
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Speaker 10: The evidence that was put on by the prosecutor was
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Speaker 10: absolutely damned, showing that the images of Celestia's decomposed body
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Speaker 10: in the trunk.
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Speaker 11: Of the tesla and the parents were sitting there and
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Speaker 11: it was just absolutely and horrible, but they wanted to
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Speaker 11: show his strength and there they're here for Celeste.
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Speaker 3: He was asked if he could identify any facial features
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Speaker 3: and he said no, it was so badly decomposed because
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Speaker 3: of skin slippa it is what he called it. We
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Speaker 3: also saw a close up of her hands. We saw
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Speaker 3: the fingers that were amputated. You know, we saw the
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Speaker 3: finger as well from the other hand, and yeah, it
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Speaker 3: was it was tough, but again he had his his
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Speaker 3: eyes just glued to the screen.
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Speaker 12: What we saw in that courtroom was nothing short of despicable,
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Speaker 12: pure evil. We saw images of what was in that
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Speaker 12: bag in the front trunk of that's tesla. We saw
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Speaker 12: everything and it was horrendous. It was absolutely horrendous. The
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Speaker 12: stuff that we saw, I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Speaker 12: And the fact that Celeste's parents were in the courtroom
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Speaker 12: for that was just even more shocking and breaks your
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Speaker 12: heart that they have to go through this.
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Speaker 1: That is on YouTube, that's trapped more ross. Apparently everything
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Speaker 1: happening in the courtroom was sickening, So you know, to
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Speaker 1: you Joseph Scott Morgan death investigator. The images are so upsetting,
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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the probit of value. You and
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Speaker 1: I have both been in a lot of courtrooms, yeap.
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Speaker 1: When you're standing in front of a jury and you
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Speaker 1: can't start crying and you can't act like you're sick
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Speaker 1: to your stomach, you have got to keep going and
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Speaker 1: keep it together. Like, right now, what are they seeing?
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Speaker 1: You heard Taylor Perie from the LA magazine trying to
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Speaker 1: describe it, but forensically, probatively, what is the court seeing?
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Speaker 1: What isn't?
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Speaker 9: Okay, that breaks out two ways. Let me kind of
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Speaker 9: shed a little light here. So what they're seeing is
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Speaker 9: the overall images of her remains in this vehicle. And
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Speaker 9: one of the things you have to begin to factor
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Speaker 9: in here talking about prohibitive value. And this is going
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Speaker 9: to be essential here, Nancy, since we have this body
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Speaker 9: rendered into multiple elements, Okay, we'll put it that way.
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Speaker 9: One of the questions scientifically we have to ask is
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Speaker 9: how did that happen? The key here is not just
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Speaker 9: seeing the overall picture, but then as her remains are
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Speaker 9: examined at the Emmy's office, they're going to be looking
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Speaker 9: at these locations where some type of tool was used
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Speaker 9: in order to render her down with these individual components. Okay,
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Speaker 9: So what that means is if there is any type
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Speaker 9: of sharp instrument, saw, whatever it is, if they can
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Speaker 9: get that implement and match it up to the tool marks,
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Speaker 9: they are going to be on the end of the bones.
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Speaker 9: And I'm telling you, I know this is very hard
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Speaker 9: to hear, all right. That will explain how she wound
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Speaker 9: up that way. Now, putting that tool in someone's hands
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Speaker 9: is something completely different. But they have to appreciate all
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Speaker 9: of these different components, how she was found, and most
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Speaker 9: of all Nancy. The court has to appreciate how she
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Speaker 9: was treated, how her remains were treated in death.
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Speaker 1: Kind of much. Please, we know that D four Vid.
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Speaker 1: David Anthony Burke probably under an assume name order not
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Speaker 1: one but two chain saws. Okay, think about it. If
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Speaker 1: I can get at my hands on those chainsaws and
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Speaker 1: look at the serration edge of it, can I compare
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Speaker 1: that exact serration to her body? Can't I mark up
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Speaker 1: the tool markings to prove those chainsaws were used in
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Speaker 1: this articulation?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, within a reasonable scientific certainty, you can. And that's
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Speaker 9: why it's so bloody important to get their hands on
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Speaker 9: this other saw and to try to do it, because
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Speaker 9: beyond that, they can take a look at the saws
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Speaker 9: that he was alleged to have purchased, Nancy, and they
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Speaker 9: can do kind of a qualification where they'll say, yeah,
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Speaker 9: it could be consistent with this particular brand, but how
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Speaker 9: much more powerful is this, Nancy from a physical evidence standpoint,
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Speaker 9: which I know that you're well aware of. If you
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Speaker 9: can take the actual tool itself and marry this up.
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Speaker 9: That's a big part of this investigation. What's the status
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Speaker 9: of any instrument, not just chainsaws, but what any instrument
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Speaker 9: that may have been used in order to facilitate what
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Speaker 9: happened here.
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Speaker 10: This is the first time that they've heard this evidence
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Speaker 10: in detail, and they're horrified. There was an image of
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Speaker 10: Celestis Torso and her head in the trunk of the car,
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Speaker 10: and the prosecutor had to ask what it was because
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Speaker 10: you could not tell it was a head. It was
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Speaker 10: absolutely it was deplorable, and so they're at they're at
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Speaker 10: a loss of words. Mercedes just put her head down
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Speaker 10: and started crying and she couldn't look up, and she
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Speaker 10: was warned by the just attorney Beth Silverman told her
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Speaker 10: in advance, these images are coming and as soon as
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Speaker 10: and I told her that she didn't have to be
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Speaker 10: in the courtroom for this part part of the hearing,
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Speaker 10: but she said, I want to be here to show
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Speaker 10: support for Celeste. And she just put her head down
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Speaker 10: and just started culling.
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Speaker 1: That is Patrick Seinfeld, the Celeste Riva's family attorney, and
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Speaker 1: questioning him was our friend Lauren Collin on X from
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Speaker 1: LA magazine. Dave Mac questioned the detective was on the
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Speaker 1: stand because the prosecutor can't just start showing video and
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Speaker 1: showing images and narrate them herself. You have to have
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Speaker 1: a witness on the stand that is very well versed fluent.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you they practiced this presentation many times before
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Speaker 1: the detective took the stand. But the detective was asked,
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Speaker 1: Dave Mac, was he not about why the body bag
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Speaker 1: she was actually stored part of her anyway in a
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Speaker 1: full on body bag that is used by Medical Examiner's
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Speaker 1: office that apparently was ordered on Amazon. Idiot, But why
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Speaker 1: wasn't the body bag kept as eminence?
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Speaker 2: You know, Nancy, that body bag that you're talking about
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Speaker 2: actually contained just the torso and head. And when this
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Speaker 2: is the shocking part of all of it is when
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Speaker 2: that front was opened, the zipper was partially down, and
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Speaker 2: those cops saw this right away. But what detective Buyers
23:26
Speaker 2: was talking about on the stand about the remains found
23:31
Speaker 2: inside the bag and having to get rid of certain
23:35
Speaker 2: things because of the body fluids and the decomposition that
23:41
Speaker 2: had taken place inside that body bag, It's a shocking thing.
23:47
Speaker 2: What they were describing on the stand, the body bag
23:51
Speaker 2: as well as the additional trash bags that were used
23:54
Speaker 2: for other body parts. It's just from the day one
23:59
Speaker 2: has been shocking. But on the stand, sharing these types
24:02
Speaker 2: of very specific things about what was taking place with
24:05
Speaker 2: this child's body after she was gone is just despicable.
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Speaker 1: Tell her, Perice, what about the zipper and the handles
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Speaker 1: on those bags?
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Speaker 4: So, while the bag itself was disposed of, the investigator
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Speaker 4: did say that they preserved the zipper and the handles,
24:26
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure if they're going to be doing
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Speaker 4: more testing on those items, but hopefully we'll know soon.
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Speaker 1: On the stand, Buyers was asked why the body bag
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Speaker 1: was not kept, and he talked about the risk the
24:38
Speaker 1: hazard of all the bodily fluids and decomp Well, you
24:43
Speaker 1: know what. That's why you have a hazmat suit. That's
24:48
Speaker 1: why you have the hat, the face masks, the gloves,
24:51
Speaker 1: the da da da why and the HDE double L.
24:56
Speaker 1: Didn't you keep the body bag? I hope I'm wrong.
24:58
Speaker 1: I hope I find out that that's right, because the
25:00
Speaker 1: jury's going to want to see that body bag. You know,
25:03
Speaker 1: sometimes pictures are not worth a million words. You want
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Speaker 1: the real thing. So you know, apparently there was more
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Speaker 1: than one body bag, so maybe they kept the other one.
25:14
Speaker 1: But please put it in a bag and store it
25:18
Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. I mean, they deal with dead bodies.
25:23
Speaker 1: They deal with bodily fluid's day in, day out, Joe
25:26
Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. They deal with bodily fluids and dead bodies
25:29
Speaker 1: every day. Why throw out important evidence?
25:32
Speaker 9: I don't know. It's we actually have devices at crime
25:36
Speaker 9: labs and in Morgus called evidence dryers, and it knocks
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Speaker 9: down all of humidity. I cannot. I'm not buying this
25:44
Speaker 9: thing about biohazards and all this nonsense. There's all kinds
25:47
Speaker 9: of things that we retain because of their evidentiary value.
25:52
Speaker 9: And let me, if you like that one, let me
25:53
Speaker 9: give you one more you know the thing about the
25:56
Speaker 9: body bag itself and Nancy, this is the first case
25:59
Speaker 9: I've ever cut in my career involving the evidentiary value
26:03
Speaker 9: of a body bag. This is something that was sought out,
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Speaker 9: purchased for an express purpose. Did you know this thing
26:09
Speaker 9: has handles on it? Every body bag has a handle
26:12
Speaker 9: on it, and so what do you get from that?
26:15
Speaker 9: You get touched DNA. So I hope that they if
26:18
Speaker 9: they did toss these, I hope they went to great
26:21
Speaker 9: links in order to swab the exterior of this thing,
26:25
Speaker 9: swab those handles, to see who put their hands on
26:29
Speaker 9: this bag and any of the underlying surfaces, you know,
26:33
Speaker 9: as it's being lifted and taken and transferred into locations.
26:37
Speaker 9: This could be a problem. I'm I'm shocked that they're
26:41
Speaker 9: saying they discarded these items. I've been around a lot
26:44
Speaker 9: of bad smelling the.
26:45
Speaker 1: Itemscott, Scott, look at the screen, Look at the screen.
26:48
Speaker 1: Did you see that party scene which I think is
26:51
Speaker 1: within the D four VD David Anthony Burt Home. Can
26:55
Speaker 1: you imagine your child and she met D four D
27:00
Speaker 1: when she was still wearing Hello Kitty t shirts and paraphernalia,
27:05
Speaker 1: and she's in that drunken party saying can you imagine
27:09
Speaker 1: your child up in that? I mean, look, doctor Bethan Marshall,
27:14
Speaker 1: look at your screen, Look at all that hard liquor. Nancy.
27:22
Speaker 5: The disrespect for Celeste's life is so far reaching. When
27:28
Speaker 5: I hear about the body bags being discarded, I found
27:32
Speaker 5: myself wondering, is law enforcement minimizing her death, just as
27:37
Speaker 5: the financial guy minimized her death, just as her parents,
27:40
Speaker 5: and I know they're going through severe trauma and stress
27:43
Speaker 5: right now, didn't really hunt her down to find out
27:46
Speaker 5: where she was. Young women get discarded every day. And
27:51
Speaker 5: you know what else, Nancy, There's a ripple effect to
27:53
Speaker 5: every victim's life loss of life, meaning that many female
27:58
Speaker 5: victims go on to become victim advocations. They become they
28:04
Speaker 5: start to educate first responders, they write books, they become
28:08
Speaker 5: international human rights attorneys. They lead the world in terms
28:13
Speaker 5: of advocacy later in their life. Women are remarkable. So
28:19
Speaker 5: not only was celeste life cut short in terms of
28:22
Speaker 5: her family life, potential education, the beauty of childhood, but
28:28
Speaker 5: our world is at a loss now because we've lost
28:31
Speaker 5: another potential advocate who could be training.
28:34
Speaker 1: For surveveners and can I can I just ask you
28:40
Speaker 1: about the evidence. What about the air fresheners, at least
28:46
Speaker 1: eleven of them. You heard Taylor Perice, Dave Mack just
28:52
Speaker 1: got Morgan describing all the blood on that third seat,
28:59
Speaker 1: the body of this child in multiple bags, and they
29:04
Speaker 1: just there's some air freshners back there.
29:07
Speaker 5: And Nancy, not only that, all the blood in the
29:11
Speaker 5: garage was on the mats, the brick floor, a rowing machine, tarps,
29:17
Speaker 5: the Tesla charger, cable, trash bags containing blood stained wipes
29:22
Speaker 5: and fabrics. So her blood was intermingled with a pile
29:27
Speaker 5: of garbage in the garage. Okay, he did not begin
29:33
Speaker 5: to order chainsaws until weeks after he killed her, according
29:39
Speaker 5: to testimony. So she was languishing, rotting in that garage
29:45
Speaker 5: while kids traped in and out. Then she was thrown
29:49
Speaker 5: in the front perhaps dismembered already, or in the backseat
29:53
Speaker 5: of the car. So how many times were these body
29:56
Speaker 5: parts transferred from placed to place? How long did he contemplate,
30:02
Speaker 5: how long he was going, How long did he contemplate
30:06
Speaker 5: how he was going to get rid of her, what
30:08
Speaker 5: methods he would use. There are a lot of there's
30:13
Speaker 5: a lot of purchasing involved. There are a lot of
30:15
Speaker 5: people involved. Apparently his mother handled his finances. What did
30:19
Speaker 5: she think about all those Amazon purchases, Nancy? A rationalization
30:26
Speaker 5: is a precursor to every great crime. According to testimony,
30:32
Speaker 5: the financial guy rationalized that it was okay for DV
30:37
Speaker 5: forty to date Celeste. Those partygoers that you just showed
30:42
Speaker 5: with all that alcohol in the room with a minor,
30:45
Speaker 5: rationalized that it was okay for her to be there.
30:48
Speaker 5: And I would be so curious, what were the stories
30:50
Speaker 5: all these people told themselves. What were the rationalized What
30:54
Speaker 5: were the rationalizations? Oh, you know what, her parents are
30:57
Speaker 5: not in contact with her, so it's a pay that
31:00
Speaker 5: she's in that house. I mean, that's the untold story
31:02
Speaker 5: as well. Perhaps we'll get to at some point.
31:05
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, though, Bethany, what is the the que
31:09
Speaker 1: de gras is the just throwing air fresheners around the
31:16
Speaker 1: car to mask the stench of this child's decomposing body.
31:23
Speaker 1: And I want to point out that Morgan roth Randolph Rice,
31:27
Speaker 1: veteran trial lawyer, he has not been charged, He's not
31:31
Speaker 1: suspected of any wrongdoing. In fact, under our jurisprudence, failure
31:37
Speaker 1: to act is not a crime. I can see a
31:41
Speaker 1: murder go down and just turn the other cheek, wash
31:46
Speaker 1: my hands of it like ponscious pilot, and under our law,
31:50
Speaker 1: he cannot and will not be charged for guilty knowledge.
31:54
Speaker 1: Isn't that true, Randolph Rice?
31:56
Speaker 7: You're exactly right, Nancy. It's in most cases. There's obviously
32:00
Speaker 7: those very extreme situations where if you had some sort
32:03
Speaker 7: of knowledge beforehand, and maybe you further that crime by
32:07
Speaker 7: doing some little thing, you could be charged. But if
32:09
Speaker 7: it's just a I knew about it and I didn't
32:11
Speaker 7: say anything, he's not facing any criminal charges.
32:17
Speaker 1: Just like the use of air fresheners to hide the
32:22
Speaker 1: stanch of a decomposing body, do we have additional premeditation
32:29
Speaker 1: showing wrongdoing? Taylor Perice joining US investigative report. She's at
32:33
Speaker 1: the courthouse, she's with the LA magazine. Taylor, what can
32:37
Speaker 1: you tell me about probitive evidence that David Anthony Burke
32:43
Speaker 1: intentionally took this child out of the country for what
32:48
Speaker 1: I'd like to know?
32:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, Benjamin Greger testified a lot about David not
32:57
Speaker 4: knowing what his finances were. His mother handled that he
33:01
Speaker 4: didn't know how much he was making, but it did
33:03
Speaker 4: come out in court that the London ticket was purchased
33:06
Speaker 4: with David's personal bank account that he did have access to.
33:09
Speaker 4: He also had a personal credit card, so he did
33:13
Speaker 4: have access to his own money.
33:15
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious about what exactly went on in
33:19
Speaker 1: London because we also know that he D four VD
33:24
Speaker 1: took her across state lines to Texas and more I
33:29
Speaker 1: think Vegas as well. We know that according to prosecutors,
33:33
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about the morning after peal
33:36
Speaker 1: about abortions. Was she taken out of the country rut
33:40
Speaker 1: of the jurisdiction for that procedure, I don't know, but
33:44
Speaker 1: I guarantee you we'll find out. We know her passport
33:47
Speaker 1: was discarded out in the middle of nowhere. Speaking of
33:52
Speaker 1: D four vd's mother, as Celeste's parents sit there and
33:57
Speaker 1: tried to make heads and tails of these videos of
34:01
Speaker 1: their child's body, take a listen at what de Forbidy's
34:06
Speaker 1: mother's up to.
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Speaker 10: What was disconcerting to me is that David Anthony Burke's
34:13
Speaker 10: mom is still pursuing an attorney for David's musical career,
34:22
Speaker 10: so apparently hit the threat of a lifetime in jail
34:27
Speaker 10: or potential death penalty.
34:30
Speaker 4: Is not stopping him.
34:32
Speaker 10: He's pursuing his musical career like like nothing happened.
34:38
Speaker 1: What in the world that is Celesteva's family lawyer Patrick
34:43
Speaker 1: Seinfeld with Lauren Colin there at the courthouse. What Tyler Perice,
34:49
Speaker 1: the mother at this juncture, reportedly is hot on the
34:54
Speaker 1: tail of more music production by D four VD.
35:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, we learned that she is still seeking to find
35:05
Speaker 4: new entertainment representation for David. We don't know if that's
35:10
Speaker 4: happened yet.
35:12
Speaker 1: Corroborating what we are just learning from Taylor Perice. Dave
35:17
Speaker 1: Matt what can you tell me about music being released
35:20
Speaker 1: to coincide with the beginning of this hearing.
35:23
Speaker 2: It was a shocking drop that happened all of a sudden,
35:28
Speaker 2: and Nancy. It happened as D four VD is in
35:32
Speaker 2: jail awaiting trial, getting ready for this hearing this week,
35:37
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it just
35:41
Speaker 2: pops up. It's it's actually an unreleased track mar Mar sessence.
35:51
Speaker 2: It's how it's pronounced. But it was released briefly and
35:55
Speaker 2: then pulled back down. But you know, there's nothing that
35:58
Speaker 2: goes away on the internet. Once it's out. Everybody has
36:01
Speaker 2: access to it and they it's kind of a hidden thing.
36:04
Speaker 2: We don't know who put it out or you know,
36:07
Speaker 2: when they actually got access to this song, Nancy. But
36:12
Speaker 2: fans believed that is an unreleased song called I Think
36:15
Speaker 2: She Knows.
36:16
Speaker 9: But it popped up.
36:18
Speaker 2: And went away fairly quickly as the hearing was beginning.
36:22
Speaker 1: J Justs gott Morgan. I want you to look at
36:24
Speaker 1: an image I found on TikTok MENI speculate that the
36:28
Speaker 1: scar you were seeing, the red scar, was obtained during
36:34
Speaker 1: celeste murder and disarticulation, and apparently he may have drawn
36:42
Speaker 1: over it to make it look like across What explain
36:48
Speaker 1: how that could have happened during her death, Nancy.
36:54
Speaker 9: One of the things that we hear about with the
36:56
Speaker 9: Celeste case is the fact that there are sharp instruments
37:00
Speaker 9: being used. Okay, and so we've covered this, You and
37:02
Speaker 9: I have covered cases in the past where we've had
37:05
Speaker 9: individuals that have been using sharp instruments that are perpetrators
37:10
Speaker 9: that have injured themselves. And this is quite plausible that
37:14
Speaker 9: that could be what you're seeing here. You know, because
37:17
Speaker 9: when you're dealing and you do if you're talking about
37:20
Speaker 9: a rendering down of remains with a tremendous amount of blood.
37:23
Speaker 9: Blood's very slick, and if you're using a sharp instrument,
37:26
Speaker 9: it creates that surface on their impede your ability to
37:31
Speaker 9: firmly grip an instrument. And so see you see individuals
37:35
Speaker 9: that will cut themselves. Now, I can't look at that
37:37
Speaker 9: image and definitively say that it is a cut or
37:41
Speaker 9: some type of sharp instrument, but it's something that certainly
37:44
Speaker 9: could be entertained.
37:45
Speaker 1: Well, it would have to look at the date that
37:47
Speaker 1: this was posted to try to figure out if in
37:49
Speaker 1: fact they are connected. Okay, Randolph Rice Way in.
37:54
Speaker 9: Nancy.
37:55
Speaker 7: This case right now is not going well for the prosecution.
37:58
Speaker 7: And here's why. It is circumstantial at best. And they
38:01
Speaker 7: have been unable to connect this case these facts and
38:06
Speaker 7: evidence to their who they think did this. And here's why.
38:10
Speaker 7: For example, the Amazon account, I have an Amazon account,
38:14
Speaker 7: my wife has access, my kids have access. I couldn't
38:17
Speaker 7: tell you who bought the dishwashing soap last week because
38:21
Speaker 7: it doesn't tell me who's the person clicking the button.
38:24
Speaker 7: And that's the problem the prosecution is going to have.
38:26
Speaker 7: Did mister Burke click the button that boughtled these things?
38:29
Speaker 1: I want to actually see his face as he is
38:31
Speaker 1: spewing this. Okay, you think it's going badly for the
38:35
Speaker 1: state right now? Ever, the optimist, aren't you.
38:38
Speaker 7: I think, Nancy, that they're having a hard time right now.
38:41
Speaker 7: This is the best evidence they've got. It's not working
38:44
Speaker 7: for them.
38:46
Speaker 1: Oh okay, doctor Bethony Marshall, How crazy is he?
38:50
Speaker 5: It tells me how much hatred and contempt he had
38:54
Speaker 5: for Celest while she was alive, which is a classic
38:58
Speaker 5: sign of domestic abuse. So not only was she allegedly
39:03
Speaker 5: killed by him, but I wonder how he treated her
39:07
Speaker 5: while she was alive. Did he toss her out and
39:10
Speaker 5: pull her back in? Did he degrade her, demean her
39:14
Speaker 5: all the classic signs of abuse. I would say yes.
39:18
Speaker 5: So she was tortured in life as well as in death.
39:21
Speaker 1: To Taylor, Peerie Taylor, what next? This is just a
39:26
Speaker 1: preliminary hearing. This is just a tiny sliver of the
39:30
Speaker 1: evidence the state has. Have you heard rumblings about a
39:34
Speaker 1: potential play deal.
39:38
Speaker 4: I have not heard rumblings of a plea deal. Both
39:40
Speaker 4: the prosecution of the defense are feeling very confident right now.
39:43
Speaker 4: It seems like, and you will find out shortly. Is
39:47
Speaker 4: it going to go to trial.
39:48
Speaker 1: Just Scott Morgan, I'm not sure how Randolph Rice is
39:51
Speaker 1: spinning this out to suggest it's going well for the defense.
39:56
Speaker 1: I see it. That's completely bast awkwards.
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Speaker 6: Yeah it is.
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Speaker 9: You've got a tremendous amount of physical evidence here, you
40:05
Speaker 9: know that, and not just the physical evidence itself that
40:08
Speaker 9: they have, you know, I'm thinking about the blood right
40:11
Speaker 9: now in the car where they use what's referred to
40:14
Speaker 9: as a castle Meyer test, uh to identify those blood droplets.
40:18
Speaker 9: I think there were eleven of them, and then of
40:20
Speaker 9: course they applied blue star in there as well, you know,
40:24
Speaker 9: and that that car is tied back to him, and
40:27
Speaker 9: then all all of the digital stuff relative to purchases, travel,
40:33
Speaker 9: all of this stuff. It's it's mounting up. I mean,
40:35
Speaker 9: it's you're talking about an evidentiary avalanche, if you will.
40:39
Speaker 9: That you know, he's staring down the barrel of right now.
40:42
Speaker 1: It's all.
40:43
Speaker 9: It all depends on how the prosecution puts this case together,
40:46
Speaker 9: how it's woven together to tell the narrative that they
40:49
Speaker 9: want to tell. I'm particularly intrigued to hear what the
40:52
Speaker 9: medical examiner has to say.
40:54
Speaker 1: Today is just the beginning the hearing set to go
40:58
Speaker 1: on for days. If you know think you know anything
41:01
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Speaker 5: Friend