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- 0:08Speaker 2: Chill World Series Game three Yesterday with something Else eighteen innings,
- 0:12Speaker 2: Dodgers finally win it over the Blue Jays six to five.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman solo walkoff home run in the bottom of
- 0:17Speaker 2: the eighteenth. Dodgers lead the series two games one. Next
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- 1:01Speaker 4: Sorry I couldn't respond that I was getting Joe on
- 1:03Speaker 4: no worries.
- 1:04Speaker 2: How do you miss three pks? You're a soccer guy.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just pressure. It's it's as much a mental
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- 2:08Speaker 1: Now here's Ian with our weekly Baseball fix from Joe Shean.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Joe Shean dot com, the Joe Shean newsletter based in
- 2:15Speaker 2: New York City, where Game three of the World Series
- 2:20Speaker 2: ended at I believe one fifty five am. Is that
- 2:24Speaker 2: right now? Two fifty five am? Woof? That makes it
- 2:30Speaker 2: hard for me to argue about the five o'clock starts
- 2:31Speaker 2: specific time.
- 2:32Speaker 5: I guess yeah, I'm trying to decide if I'm if
- 2:37Speaker 5: I'm cheering up because I'm sad that we're not gonna
- 2:39Speaker 5: be talking anymore, or it's just I'm exhausted.
- 2:41Speaker 6: It's a little hard. It's right on the line.
- 2:43Speaker 2: From we might we might bother you next week. By
- 2:45Speaker 2: the way, uh at the end of the world happy
- 2:47Speaker 2: to come on, you know, I appreciate that. By the way,
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- 3:07Speaker 2: I talked about all of our baseball coverage. One of
- 3:09Speaker 2: the things I teased last week Joe we weren't able
- 3:11Speaker 2: to connect was and we'll get to the World Series
- 3:12Speaker 2: in a second, because I mean, just eighteen innings is incredible.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I was tired. It was on the West Coast for
- 3:18Speaker 2: goodness sakes as well.
- 3:20Speaker 6: But.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about your story. You did. It
- 3:25Speaker 2: would have been a week ago today after the Mariners
- 3:28Speaker 2: got eliminated in Game seven. And I remember last week,
- 3:31Speaker 2: I said, because everyone here and you knew what was
- 3:33Speaker 2: going on, you wrote about it. People are going to
- 3:35Speaker 2: lose in their mind about what's going on with Dan Wilson,
- 3:37Speaker 2: his choice of picture pictures and so forth. And I said,
- 3:40Speaker 2: Joe's got an interesting take and it might surprise people,
- 3:44Speaker 2: although he's not fully supportive of Dan Wilson overall. So
- 3:48Speaker 2: let me just go back Dan Wilson in the playoffs.
- 3:51Speaker 2: How much did he hurt Seattle overall, and maybe discuss
- 3:54Speaker 2: the decision that led to the Springer game winning home run.
- 3:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I said the start of the playoffs going to
- 4:00Speaker 5: learn about Dad Wilson because he'd never been in.
- 4:02Speaker 6: This position before.
- 4:03Speaker 5: When you have the managing in the playoffs now is
- 4:05Speaker 5: so different from managing in the regular season, where the
- 4:07Speaker 5: only thing that matters really is winning that day's game.
- 4:10Speaker 5: I think we saw Wilson make some mistakes early on,
- 4:13Speaker 5: learned from them thinking about the matching up with Kerry
- 4:15Speaker 5: Carpenter and the Division series a little bit too small
- 4:19Speaker 5: ball for my taste. Some of that was because the
- 4:21Speaker 5: bottom of the order wasn't producing at all. I think
- 4:24Speaker 5: that I wasn't as upset with his decisions in Game
- 4:26Speaker 5: seven because I really just looked at bizarre. In fact,
- 4:30Speaker 5: I wrote about bizard Are going into the series saying,
- 4:32Speaker 5: and somebody who gets right handers out? And I thought
- 4:35Speaker 5: that having him pitched instead of Munio's there was perfectly
- 4:38Speaker 5: defensible based on the skill sets of the pitchers involved,
- 4:40Speaker 5: and based on the fact that once you brought Munios in,
- 4:43Speaker 5: you were gonna want him to finish the game and
- 4:45Speaker 5: he was unlikely to be able to get eight outs,
- 4:47Speaker 5: So there was no great decision there, and I think
- 4:50Speaker 5: he made.
- 4:50Speaker 6: You know, basically call it fifty two to forty eight.
- 4:53Speaker 5: For me to Bizarro to try to get the two
- 4:56Speaker 5: outs there in the seventh and.
- 4:57Speaker 6: Then go to Munio's.
- 4:58Speaker 5: But by and large, I don't think Wilson a very
- 5:00Speaker 5: good playoff series. I think if you want to question
- 5:02Speaker 5: something from that last game, it probably would have been
- 5:05Speaker 5: taking George Kirby out when he did after four innings.
- 5:08Speaker 5: I think he probably needed to get more out of Kirby.
- 5:11Speaker 5: Even you go back to game six, using Bizardo and
- 5:14Speaker 5: Matt Brash in a situation where you're already down. I
- 5:17Speaker 5: think it was three nothing at the four nothing and
- 5:19Speaker 5: then it became five to one.
- 5:20Speaker 7: That's not hot.
- 5:21Speaker 5: I mean, one of the things we don't see managers
- 5:23Speaker 5: do enough is used their really the best relievers. Down
- 5:25Speaker 5: one run late, but down three runs in the middle innings,
- 5:29Speaker 5: down four runs in the middle innings.
- 5:30Speaker 6: That was a spot for Carlos Vargas.
- 5:32Speaker 5: Then eventually it was a spot for Bibby Hancock or
- 5:35Speaker 5: Luke Jackson or something like that. And I think we
- 5:37Speaker 5: can never know if Bizartro pitch is better without having
- 5:41Speaker 5: thrown twenty pitches the day before. But I can tell
- 5:43Speaker 5: you that just evaluate the decision on this game, six
- 5:46Speaker 5: decisions on the merits, using Bizarro and Brash in that
- 5:48Speaker 5: spot did not help the team win. So again, I
- 5:51Speaker 5: think on balance, Wilson did not help the Barriners advance.
- 5:55Speaker 5: Taking away anything he was doing behind the scenes.
- 5:57Speaker 6: You know, I don't, I'm not privy to that, but
- 5:59Speaker 6: just from one pm.
- 6:00Speaker 5: To ten PM, from the first out to the last,
- 6:02Speaker 5: I think he was a net negative for the Mariners
- 6:04Speaker 5: this year.
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- 6:14Speaker 2: us a call for two five two five five zero
- 6:16Speaker 2: five hundred. So and I'll kind of weave this into
- 6:20Speaker 2: the World Series in a second. We've talked about this,
- 6:24Speaker 2: but just kind of you You studied numbers and notes
- 6:27Speaker 2: and things for years and years and years. How much
- 6:31Speaker 2: do manager managerial decisions affect teams? Especially No, maybe not
- 6:35Speaker 2: a game to game one hundred and sixty two. But
- 6:37Speaker 2: when you get to a playoff series, how much does
- 6:40Speaker 2: the manager matter?
- 6:42Speaker 6: That is considerably.
- 6:43Speaker 5: I mean, even if we say these decisions are all
- 6:45Speaker 5: occurring in a fairly small range of percentages, you know,
- 6:48Speaker 5: one decision might move the needle one to two to
- 6:50Speaker 5: three percent. You're just never making in a baseball game
- 6:53Speaker 5: maybe decision that's going to move the needle ten to
- 6:55Speaker 5: fifteen percent. It's one of the reasons I reacted to
- 6:57Speaker 5: that there was this very public outcry about the Mudios decision.
- 7:00Speaker 5: I had a reader write in and tell me he
- 7:02Speaker 5: thought the decision was absolutely reprehensible.
- 7:04Speaker 6: And that's what I'm.
- 7:05Speaker 5: Resisting, because there's simply no decision you can reasonably make
- 7:08Speaker 5: in a baseball game that's going to move the percentages
- 7:10Speaker 5: that much. It's just the difference between Munio's and bizarre
- 7:15Speaker 5: or even the decisions that he made in Game six
- 7:17Speaker 5: that I don't like. You're talking about fairly small percentages.
- 7:19Speaker 5: But here's the thing that's all you're ever going to
- 7:22Speaker 5: see if you think about win expectancy, and you know,
- 7:24Speaker 5: we've talked about this a little bit. It's the change
- 7:26Speaker 5: in state from the start of it at back to
- 7:28Speaker 5: the end of it at back, George Springer, maybe the
- 7:32Speaker 5: Blue Jays forty percent more likely to win the game
- 7:36Speaker 5: based on that one swing. That's a big swing. But
- 7:39Speaker 5: most of the time you're talking about the biggest hits
- 7:41Speaker 5: in the game are going to be eleven. The biggest
- 7:44Speaker 5: managerial decisions aren't going to rise to the level of
- 7:47Speaker 5: a three to four percent difference, because remember we're talking
- 7:49Speaker 5: about uncertainty too. It's not like blackjack, where I know
- 7:52Speaker 5: the percentages every time the card comes out of the shoe.
- 7:55Speaker 5: It's more like poker, where I'm dealing with incomplete information.
- 7:58Speaker 5: So again, all of these decisions are relatively small, but
- 8:02Speaker 5: they're the big They're small in an absolute sense, but
- 8:06Speaker 5: they're big in the sense of how anybody can impact
- 8:09Speaker 5: the game.
- 8:09Speaker 6: And that's why we focus on them.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Because managers can move the needle one to two to
- 8:14Speaker 5: three percent, which is more than most players.
- 8:16Speaker 6: Are gonna have an opportunity to do.
- 8:18Speaker 5: So managers are important, and it also goes to the
- 8:21Speaker 5: structure of your roster. I mean, there were some uh
- 8:24Speaker 5: on some of the Dusky Baker's astros teams.
- 8:26Speaker 6: There weren't really a whole lot of decisions to be made.
- 8:28Speaker 6: The same nine.
- 8:29Speaker 5: Guys were gonna play every day. They were going to
- 8:30Speaker 5: bat in the same order. It was a deep rotation.
- 8:33Speaker 5: The same four starters were gonna start, and the bullpit
- 8:35Speaker 5: was basically locked down. But most teams don't have rosters
- 8:38Speaker 5: like that. Most teams have to platoon. Most teams are
- 8:40Speaker 5: making decisions on the margins about who to start, or
- 8:43Speaker 5: where to bat them, or what reliever to bring in.
- 8:45Speaker 5: And I think the Mariners, because the bottom of the
- 8:48Speaker 5: order was such a problem, had those kinds of decisions.
- 8:50Speaker 6: Because they lost.
- 8:51Speaker 5: Brian Wu and had to make more complicated pitching decisions.
- 8:55Speaker 5: It was a more high maintenance roster than even necessarily.
- 8:59Speaker 5: It was all like problems developed talk about we talk
- 9:03Speaker 5: about the bottom of the order that made the playoff
- 9:05Speaker 5: Mariners harder to manage than save the August in July.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Matters what's And we'll probably have a little conversation regarding
- 9:14Speaker 2: off season Mariners here down the road. But I want
- 9:16Speaker 2: to get to the World Series. Last night, the eighteen
- 9:20Speaker 2: innings you wrote about it today, a great piece. The sequel.
- 9:24Speaker 2: I loved it, and I don't know why. Maybe I
- 9:27Speaker 2: was doing something else, maybe travel with the Seahawks. I
- 9:29Speaker 2: can't remember. So the Dodgers actually played an eighteen inning
- 9:32Speaker 2: game in the World Series right recently.
- 9:34Speaker 5: Seven years almost to the day, the third game of
- 9:37Speaker 5: the twenty eighteen World Series at Dodger Stadium against the
- 9:40Speaker 5: Red Sox and MaTx Munsey had a walk off homer
- 9:43Speaker 5: off Nathan the Ivaldi in the in the eighteenth innings
- 9:47Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen. So seven years ago, exam almost of
- 9:49Speaker 5: the day actually today, and I'll plug this.
- 9:52Speaker 6: Today's piece is.
- 9:53Speaker 5: Up for free if people want to check that out.
- 9:55Speaker 5: It's not about the Mariners, unfortunately, but it is and
- 9:58Speaker 5: it was getting a good response online Joshime dot com.
- 10:00Speaker 6: Check out what I wrote.
- 10:02Speaker 5: And seven years ago I wrote, I wrote really long
- 10:04Speaker 5: piece about that game as well. And you know, last
- 10:06Speaker 5: night was a very complicated baseball game, managerial decisions and
- 10:10Speaker 5: umpire calls and all. There were six base running outs,
- 10:13Speaker 5: all of them involving you know, do you send the runner?
- 10:15Speaker 6: Do you not send the runner? Was this a good decision?
- 10:16Speaker 6: Was it not?
- 10:17Speaker 5: Just a very It had a lot of baseball in
- 10:19Speaker 5: the baseball game. Alejandro Shi, John Snyder ran out of
- 10:24Speaker 5: bench players. The Dodgers just about ran out of pitchers.
- 10:27Speaker 5: It was just so much to write and talk about,
- 10:30Speaker 5: and you know, we talk about really getting into games.
- 10:33Speaker 5: I know a lot of people ended up going to
- 10:34Speaker 5: bed that I can't blame me, ended up you know,
- 10:36Speaker 5: ten to three in the morning here on the East Coast,
- 10:38Speaker 5: ten to midnight out in the west. Maybe people didn't
- 10:41Speaker 5: stay at the point, but the people who did just
- 10:42Speaker 5: had so much to chew on, and even this morning
- 10:45Speaker 5: writing about it, just I know, I lost stuff on
- 10:47Speaker 5: the cutting room floor that I could have probably done
- 10:49Speaker 5: six hundred words on. It had so much baseball in
- 10:51Speaker 5: the game, and we don't always get that. Some games
- 10:53Speaker 5: are five to one and there's not rough to write about.
- 10:55Speaker 5: Last night had a whole months worth of stuff to
- 10:57Speaker 5: write about.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I was my buddy Chris Crawford. I tweeted something
- 11:01Speaker 2: last night or said something last night, and I thought
- 11:03Speaker 2: he said, I don't know if this was the greatest game.
- 11:04Speaker 2: It was just our group chat, right, I don't know
- 11:06Speaker 2: how great a game was. I need some more runs.
- 11:07Speaker 2: And I initially I was like, yeah, I think you're right,
- 11:10Speaker 2: And then the more I think about it, because of
- 11:12Speaker 2: the benches and managing what the what the benches looked like.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Do you take out for example, Kirk and go to
- 11:19Speaker 2: your last bench player was Himan, the backup catcher for Toronto.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Do you you know what do you do with Barger?
- 11:24Speaker 2: I mean, what do you like? All these things? And
- 11:26Speaker 2: you know, the Bashett situation, the Springer injury, all those things,
- 11:29Speaker 2: and then bullpens that were just gassed and depleted. I
- 11:33Speaker 2: think it was a great game from the standpoint of
- 11:35Speaker 2: there was as we're talking about Dan Wilson, right, Joe,
- 11:38Speaker 2: there were managerial decisions. There were lineup decisions in game,
- 11:42Speaker 2: decisions that truly could affect how that game was, how
- 11:45Speaker 2: the outcome came. And I guess I would find that
- 11:48Speaker 2: to be fascinating, and I probably didn't appreciate it at
- 11:51Speaker 2: the time because frankly, I'm old. I was getting tired
- 11:53Speaker 2: even on the West coast, my friend. But but I
- 11:55Speaker 2: think looking back on it, all the elements involved, especially
- 11:59Speaker 2: with how you manage that game, that's what made it
- 12:01Speaker 2: probably a classic.
- 12:03Speaker 5: And not just that we had all of these managerial
- 12:05Speaker 5: decisions we didn't show on, but there was a ton
- 12:07Speaker 5: of baseball plays that got made, both bad the Edmond
- 12:10Speaker 5: era that led to the Kirkspur and Homer you had
- 12:13Speaker 5: David Schneider getting thrown out of the plate with potential
- 12:15Speaker 5: winning run Hernandez to Edmund to Smith. Behind the plate,
- 12:19Speaker 5: you had Vladimer Guerrero Junior making an incredibly smart play
- 12:23Speaker 5: in the sixth round. Out gonna be an infield single,
- 12:26Speaker 5: and instead of holding the bag, Guerrero comes off the bag,
- 12:29Speaker 5: catches the ball and throws Hernandez out at third base.
- 12:32Speaker 5: Alertness and physical play.
- 12:34Speaker 6: Vladimer Guerrero Junior.
- 12:35Speaker 5: Look obviously, he's known for his bat, and he's not
- 12:37Speaker 5: really built like an athlete.
- 12:38Speaker 6: He's got a gut.
- 12:39Speaker 5: You know it looks okay, he looks like me. But
- 12:42Speaker 5: when you actually see him play, you see those instincts.
- 12:44Speaker 6: You see the fact that he's a ball player. He's
- 12:46Speaker 6: not just the bat and andy.
- 12:48Speaker 5: Last night we saw him show off his arm, We
- 12:50Speaker 5: show saw his legs, we show up, saw him show
- 12:52Speaker 5: off his decision making. He doesn't look like Mookie Betts,
- 12:55Speaker 5: but he's got a lot of that. He runs a
- 12:56Speaker 5: little bit of Albert Pools. He's not the player Pools was,
- 12:59Speaker 5: but Pools had a lot of that too, where you know,
- 13:01Speaker 5: it came up a third baseman, so as a first baseman,
- 13:03Speaker 5: he still had a really good arm for a first baseman,
- 13:05Speaker 5: the incredible base runner, a good hit and run guy,
- 13:08Speaker 5: like he did everything, and we thought about him as, oh,
- 13:10Speaker 5: he's the guy who's three hundred and thirty homers every year,
- 13:13Speaker 5: but if you watched him every day, you saw he
- 13:14Speaker 5: did so many things that help a team win. Guerrera
- 13:17Speaker 5: showed off a lot.
- 13:18Speaker 6: Of that last night.
- 13:19Speaker 5: There was just all these baseball plays as well, even
- 13:21Speaker 5: things like, you know, Sir Anthony Dominge is facing Shoeotani
- 13:24Speaker 5: in what will probably be Otani's last swing of the
- 13:26Speaker 5: year because it's gonna get intentionally walk the rest to
- 13:28Speaker 5: the series and deciding to throw a you know what
- 13:31Speaker 5: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna throw a fastball middle middle.
- 13:33Speaker 5: I'm gonna announce my presence with authority. What are you
- 13:36Speaker 5: doing throwing Shoeotani a fastball middle middle of that situation?
- 13:39Speaker 5: And Otani hit it out the opposite field four hundred
- 13:41Speaker 5: feet and tied the game, and seventeen hours later the
- 13:44Speaker 5: game actually ended, Like, what are you even thinking throwing
- 13:47Speaker 5: Otani that pitch the way he's sitting right now, So
- 13:49Speaker 5: just there was just all of this stuff to talk about,
- 13:52Speaker 5: and like I said, you know, it's and I feel
- 13:55Speaker 5: like because it also had the big moments Otani's Hatani,
- 13:59Speaker 5: the Big Knife Freeman, the walk off, Homer plays at
- 14:01Speaker 5: the plate, errors like, it was also good. I think
- 14:04Speaker 5: casuals really could get into it too.
- 14:07Speaker 6: It wasn't just a seamhead game.
- 14:08Speaker 5: It was a game that if you watched fifteen games
- 14:11Speaker 5: a year, or you're a Mariners fan just towing it
- 14:13Speaker 5: from the World Series you don't know a whole lot
- 14:14Speaker 5: about these teams, you could enjoy the game too.
- 14:17Speaker 6: It's just it had everything.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I was mesmerized by it. I said,
- 14:21Speaker 2: I'm getting I mean, the Will clein part of it
- 14:23Speaker 2: is awesome. Andrews, you told me Will Klein was a
- 14:25Speaker 2: Mariner at one point.
- 14:26Speaker 4: Z they just picked him up and then kind of
- 14:28Speaker 4: threw him back on the scrap peep earlier. So it's
- 14:30Speaker 4: pretty crazy. That's it.
- 14:32Speaker 2: But isn't that, Joe, Isn't that what the playoffs are about?
- 14:34Speaker 2: And stuff is like you find unlikely heroes like Will kleinb.
- 14:38Speaker 5: Steve Pierce winning the Male of the World Series MVP.
- 14:42Speaker 5: Watching you know Ernie Clement of this postseed you think
- 14:45Speaker 5: got Billy Hatcher, who was the nineteen ninety World Series MVP.
- 14:48Speaker 5: It's never just about the superstars. Sometimes you get rid
- 14:50Speaker 5: of was it Jorge Solaier witting the World Series MVP
- 14:53Speaker 5: a couple of years ago for the streets, Yeah, it's
- 14:55Speaker 5: all about It's all about the rends. And Will Cline,
- 14:58Speaker 5: who wasn't even on the NLC. Yes, he wasn't on
- 15:01Speaker 5: any of the playoff rosters before this series was put on,
- 15:05Speaker 5: in part because Alexadisia as a family issue that couldn't
- 15:08Speaker 5: be on the World Series roster. Last guy on the
- 15:10Speaker 5: last guy on the staff, last reliever in the bullpen,
- 15:12Speaker 5: has never thrown four innings in his career, has never
- 15:16Speaker 5: thrown sixty pitches in his career, go seventy two pitches,
- 15:20Speaker 5: four shutout innings with a Worlderies game on the line.
- 15:23Speaker 6: It just doesn't get better.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Than that, doesn't. Well then you know then you like
- 15:27Speaker 2: you mentioned Clement, I mean, here's a guy that's been
- 15:30Speaker 2: DFAD more times than he's actually you know, been in
- 15:32Speaker 2: the league, you know, for a consecutive months. I mean
- 15:34Speaker 2: it's just he's and there he is doing thing. It
- 15:38Speaker 2: is a fun thing about this sport is that when
- 15:40Speaker 2: you get to this point. You know, yes, it sometimes
- 15:42Speaker 2: has to be about the superstars, but it's who ends
- 15:45Speaker 2: up being a one day superstar, right or a one
- 15:48Speaker 2: series superstar along the way, And you just mentioned a
- 15:50Speaker 2: lot of guys along the way, Joe Shean joining us.
- 15:53Speaker 2: What what do we know? Is Springer out?
- 15:55Speaker 8: Is he done?
- 15:55Speaker 2: What do we know?
- 15:57Speaker 5: You know, I was going to do this hit and
- 15:59Speaker 5: then I was going to catch up the day's news
- 16:00Speaker 5: and write by pregame piece. So I'm not sure watching
- 16:04Speaker 5: him leave the game last night, I don't think it's
- 16:06Speaker 5: a question of whether he's in the lineup tonight. I
- 16:07Speaker 5: think it's a question of whether they're gonna replace him
- 16:09Speaker 5: on the roster. He did not look like a guy
- 16:11Speaker 5: who was gonna come back and play, So I could
- 16:13Speaker 5: be wrong about that, but I think he's gonna need
- 16:14Speaker 5: at least one day off. And it's complicated because it
- 16:16Speaker 5: doesn't seem like Boba Schett is going to play consecutive
- 16:20Speaker 5: games in the series, and they're probably gonna want him
- 16:22Speaker 5: to start against Blake Snell the left handed tomorrow, So
- 16:24Speaker 5: I thought he was already going to miss today's game.
- 16:27Speaker 5: Now maybe with Springer out, Dashetkin d h we al
- 16:30Speaker 5: weill see the lionups come out.
- 16:31Speaker 6: Here in a little bit.
- 16:32Speaker 5: I'm also fascinated by seeing, you know, which pitchers are
- 16:34Speaker 5: available as far as like the Dodgers are going to
- 16:36Speaker 5: have one right handed reliever available and he's terrible. Blake's
- 16:39Speaker 5: trying in Who's the entire reason we had to go
- 16:41Speaker 5: eighteen innings last night? Because he gave up a run
- 16:43Speaker 5: to you know, you have three straight hits in the
- 16:46Speaker 5: in the seventh tenning. They shouldn't even be pitching for
- 16:48Speaker 5: the Dodgers at this point, but yet it's the Pulpen's
- 16:51Speaker 5: gonna be an interesting springer, Dashett. You know, I even
- 16:54Speaker 5: wonder Will Smith caught eighteen innings last night, and I
- 16:57Speaker 5: guarantee you at any other point in the season, the
- 16:59Speaker 5: guy catches eighteen inns, he doesn't come.
- 17:00Speaker 6: Back and catch the next day.
- 17:02Speaker 5: So you know, is are we going to see Ben
- 17:03Speaker 5: Rortfett for at least half the game to night the
- 17:05Speaker 5: backup catcher who can't do.
- 17:06Speaker 2: It at all?
- 17:06Speaker 6: I just there's a lot.
- 17:07Speaker 5: Of follow up to last night's game, even before yesterday,
- 17:10Speaker 5: and I was writing that, you know, this is when you.
- 17:13Speaker 6: In the ALCS the a NLCS.
- 17:15Speaker 5: In the World Series, you play those three straight games
- 17:18Speaker 5: Games three, Game four, in Game five, and for most
- 17:20Speaker 5: of the postseason you don't have to warn you about
- 17:21Speaker 5: playing three straight days. So last night you don't want
- 17:25Speaker 5: to burn out your bullpen. And then they accidentally play
- 17:27Speaker 5: eighteen innings, so it makes it so much complicated, more
- 17:30Speaker 5: complicated for Dave Roberts, and you want to see David
- 17:34Speaker 5: Schneider John Schneider to figure out how am I going
- 17:38Speaker 5: to get.
- 17:38Speaker 6: Through these next eighteen innings.
- 17:40Speaker 5: It's actually a little easier for the Dodgers. They'll have
- 17:41Speaker 5: Show aotany tonight, they'll have Blake Snell tomorrow. We don't
- 17:45Speaker 5: know what the Blue Days are going to get out
- 17:46Speaker 5: of Shane dab He just you know, he's been really
- 17:48Speaker 5: up and down. He's only made eleven starts since coming
- 17:50Speaker 5: off the Ils. It's being traded to Toronto. There's definitely
- 17:54Speaker 5: some implosion possibility there. They use their one long reliever
- 17:58Speaker 5: for four and two thirds innings night, Eric Flower, So
- 18:01Speaker 5: if Beople would to go out tonight, you have four
- 18:03Speaker 5: runs in the first inning. I'm not sure how Schinder
- 18:05Speaker 5: even gets through the game. And then he's got to
- 18:07Speaker 5: play again tomorrow.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Blue Jays went. If the Blue Jays won on one
- 18:10Speaker 2: last night, We've been talking a lot more about Lawer two,
- 18:12Speaker 2: you know, and what that job he did. I mean
- 18:14Speaker 2: it was just it.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Was and Alejandro Kirk with a free run homer. Yeah,
- 18:17Speaker 5: and you know all the things Lad did in the game.
- 18:20Speaker 5: I mean again, we tend to frame things because based
- 18:23Speaker 5: on who won. But the Blue chast did a lot
- 18:24Speaker 5: of incredible baseball things last night and just happened.
- 18:27Speaker 6: To lose an eight. It took seventeen and two thirds
- 18:29Speaker 6: innings to beat them. What are you gonna do?
- 18:30Speaker 2: That's crazy? All right, We are going to have you
- 18:32Speaker 2: on next week if you'll do it, because I need
- 18:33Speaker 2: to get it. By then the World Series will be over.
- 18:35Speaker 2: We can put a rap on this because I didn't
- 18:37Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to you about some guy
- 18:39Speaker 2: named Otani who's good at baseball and I want to
- 18:41Speaker 2: get your but we'll wait till the series is over
- 18:43Speaker 2: to do that, put a rap on things, kind of
- 18:45Speaker 2: an off season primer, and to put a total bowl
- 18:47Speaker 2: on it. If you're willing and able, we'll do that
- 18:49Speaker 2: next Tuesday.
- 18:49Speaker 7: Joe, No, I'll come on forever.
- 18:52Speaker 5: I know, you guys go to you know a lot
- 18:53Speaker 5: of football and hockey now, but I'm happy to come
- 18:55Speaker 5: on talk baseball any time.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Tell people about the and I'm getting a fist pump
- 18:59Speaker 2: from anders in there to right now.
- 19:00Speaker 6: That was creepy.
- 19:03Speaker 9: That was just that.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Was just with the voice. Andrews just had a fist pump.
- 19:07Speaker 2: That's all.
- 19:07Speaker 4: I'll be in Hawaii listening.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Oh there you go? Even how about that?
- 19:11Speaker 6: To Andrews.
- 19:12Speaker 2: It's okay, Joe, tell you about the newsletter and again
- 19:16Speaker 2: the free story is up there. It's a great read,
- 19:18Speaker 2: especially if you're a movie buff too. So go go
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- 19:36Speaker 5: All season starts, you know, in a week, and there's
- 19:39Speaker 5: not a lot to break anymore. So once the World
- 19:41Speaker 5: Series ends, will already be going into the Hot Stove League,
- 19:43Speaker 5: and Art America is going to retain nailor and where's
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- 19:52Speaker 2: We'll talk to Joe again next week and put a
- 19:54Speaker 2: ball on baseball and until then, enjoy the games, hopefully
- 19:56Speaker 2: get some more sleep tonight. Thanks there you go, Joe
- 20:00Speaker 2: and joining us. We got the Cook's coming up next.
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- 20:55Speaker 2: All right, Hey, after a two week absence, they're back.
- 20:58Speaker 2: We've had some short shows because the Kraken on the
- 21:01Speaker 2: East Coast trip. But look who's back after a win.
- 21:04Speaker 2: It's our Cougar roundtable. Here we go. MK and Alex
- 21:07Speaker 2: are here on this Tuesday afternoon. Who's coming off a
- 21:11Speaker 2: nice win? Lost to discuss? Gentlemen? MK? How you doing?
- 21:15Speaker 2: You're back from? Where where'd you just get back from?
- 21:18Speaker 10: I was in Saudi Arabia and uh, you know, just
- 21:21Speaker 10: just out there hanging out doing pilot things, fine planes whatever?
- 21:25Speaker 9: Are you raising raising funds for the Buffalo gym expansion?
- 21:28Speaker 11: Uh no, but I just know more to.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Wow guys on the He's signed up for the live
- 21:36Speaker 2: tour as well, you know, I mean, who knows what
- 21:38Speaker 2: he's doing over there? I mean, goodness, me see me
- 21:40Speaker 2: on a golf course. Guys, listen, I'm a good time,
- 21:43Speaker 2: but I'm not good Alex break with us as well.
- 21:48Speaker 2: I gotta tell the story. We we we tape these
- 21:50Speaker 2: in the morning because every schedule. Shockingly, both MK and
- 21:53Speaker 2: Alex have other lives and jobs, so we can do
- 21:56Speaker 2: this in the morning and there was a time we
- 21:59Speaker 2: just had a little not an incident, but a little
- 22:01Speaker 2: little shot in Ian's favor. But there was one time,
- 22:05Speaker 2: years ago, this was pre MK and pre Jessamine, where maybe,
- 22:09Speaker 2: just maybe I forgot to hit the record button somehow, Yeah,
- 22:14Speaker 2: somehow it's turned into a bigger thing than that.
- 22:16Speaker 11: I think I play tell out Ian, I've been on
- 22:18Speaker 11: one where you forgot the butt to brother.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Let's oh maybe it is more than one. All right,
- 22:24Speaker 2: well listen, I'm old, I forget things I want just
- 22:26Speaker 2: waving on Jed.
- 22:28Speaker 10: Jess was not there. That was the common that was.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Definitely in Oh goodness, all right, let's get caught up
- 22:34Speaker 2: guys four and four on the season. They've got the
- 22:38Speaker 2: first of two in this weird year before we go
- 22:41Speaker 2: back into a conference next year against Oregon State. We'll
- 22:44Speaker 2: get to the Beavers in our second segment coming up
- 22:46Speaker 2: in a few minutes, because there's a familiar face running
- 22:49Speaker 2: the show on the sideline over there. We'll get to
- 22:50Speaker 2: We'll get to him in a second. Alex will start
- 22:53Speaker 2: with you. Just nice win. They beat Toledo. They do
- 22:56Speaker 2: so massively shorthanded Noel Isaac Terrell among there's offensive lines,
- 23:01Speaker 2: beat up but they ran the ball well, especially in
- 23:03Speaker 2: that last ride when they had to. Impressions of what
- 23:05Speaker 2: you see not just last week against Toledo, but the
- 23:08Speaker 2: two close losses on the road back east against ranked teams.
- 23:11Speaker 12: Yeah, what really stands out to me most is that, Look,
- 23:14Speaker 12: we've all watched and participated in watching state football for
- 23:16Speaker 12: a long time, right and for years you talk about
- 23:20Speaker 12: depth or lack of depth, and if frontline guys get hurt,
- 23:24Speaker 12: you know, it feels like there's an inability, you know,
- 23:27Speaker 12: at times to overcome that, right. I think very specifically
- 23:29Speaker 12: in two thousand and six, you know, my man here
- 23:32Speaker 12: on the other side, on the other side of football,
- 23:33Speaker 12: and Chris so Bruce is a one man wrecking crew.
- 23:35Speaker 12: But when he got hurt, I mean, we really fell
- 23:37Speaker 12: apart right on the back end of the season in six.
- 23:39Speaker 12: And what I'm seeing with this Washington State football team
- 23:42Speaker 12: right now is their ability to overcome injuries at the
- 23:47Speaker 12: front line, right, particularly on the defensive line. I mean, ye, look,
- 23:50Speaker 12: Toledo's a physical football team. I mean, as a really
- 23:52Speaker 12: for people that don't are not in it day to day.
- 23:55Speaker 12: That's a fantastic win that Jimmy Rodgers and the Kugs
- 23:58Speaker 12: came away with. But they're doing it with guys Ian
- 24:02Speaker 12: like Donovan fitzmorris on on the defensive line. Right, they
- 24:06Speaker 12: had two guys transfer from to Mexico State who've played
- 24:09Speaker 12: a good role this year but not stood out, in
- 24:11Speaker 12: Buddha Paletti and so in Malache Taiasi.
- 24:15Speaker 9: Those guys stepped up. Right.
- 24:16Speaker 12: You're just seeing like multiple players, you know, really across
- 24:20Speaker 12: the whole team. But I thought particularly defensive line stepping up,
- 24:23Speaker 12: and that to me speaks to coaching and culture. And
- 24:27Speaker 12: that's really impressive to me. And I think there should
- 24:29Speaker 12: be a tip of the captain, Jimmy Rodgers and that
- 24:31Speaker 12: entire staff for getting these young men ready to go.
- 24:33Speaker 10: And that's kind of what I was leaning on to you.
- 24:35Speaker 11: And you know, I've been I've been standing on this
- 24:37Speaker 11: hill about you know, not being able to compete with
- 24:40Speaker 11: bigger conferences or teams because of the depth, and and
- 24:44Speaker 11: I have been standing on that. But to see some
- 24:46Speaker 11: of these guys come out because because Isaac Charle mean,
- 24:48Speaker 11: that guy has been a wrecking ball, like he has
- 24:51Speaker 11: been falling out all year. To not have that guy
- 24:53Speaker 11: that heartbeat and a few other those key players has
- 24:57Speaker 11: been very very encouraging, especial say from US older players
- 25:01Speaker 11: when we're watching it, because that's what I thought was
- 25:03Speaker 11: a sticking point.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you got hurt. How did that
- 25:07Speaker 2: chiseled piece of grounded Alex get hurt?
- 25:09Speaker 9: K I got to be honesty.
- 25:11Speaker 12: And m K looked a little different back in college
- 25:14Speaker 12: than he did he does right now. Man, he's more
- 25:18Speaker 12: he's more apt physically to play college football right now.
- 25:20Speaker 9: He wasn't two thousand and six.
- 25:22Speaker 10: I haven't peaked yet. I'm not peaking five.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Nineteen years ago. I mean, Isaac Terrell, you's got nine
- 25:29Speaker 2: and a half tackles for loss this season. It's in
- 25:31Speaker 2: the top twenty nationally. I mean he and so not
- 25:33Speaker 2: to have him, Yeah, I think, Alex, that's what jumped
- 25:35Speaker 2: out at me is that, you know the Toledo game,
- 25:38Speaker 2: that's an easy one to go. Okay, we just went
- 25:40Speaker 2: and lost a close game to ranked Virginia. We lost
- 25:43Speaker 2: a close game to a ranked top ten, top five
- 25:46Speaker 2: team in ole Miss at ole Miss, and you come
- 25:49Speaker 2: home against a team from the mac Attack. But that
- 25:51Speaker 2: was arguably there are a lot of people think that
- 25:53Speaker 2: should have been or should be the best team in
- 25:55Speaker 2: the back right. And then so that's I think it's
- 25:57Speaker 2: it speaks to and I kind of want to touch
- 25:59Speaker 2: on that a little bit because before we get to
- 26:01Speaker 2: this week's game. You know, culture is I think probably
- 26:05Speaker 2: everything in sports, it doesn't even matter. I mean, it's
- 26:08Speaker 2: it's what what sport it is. Maybe baseball will be
- 26:11Speaker 2: the one aside, but I mean football, hockey, Uh, maybe basketball,
- 26:15Speaker 2: but certainly the physical sports. It's got to be about
- 26:17Speaker 2: the culture. And you know, I said this to you
- 26:19Speaker 2: guys at the start of the season. I still truly
- 26:21Speaker 2: believe it. I think this was a big year for
- 26:23Speaker 2: Jimmy Rogers. To come in and get into a Bowl
- 26:25Speaker 2: game would be a bonus. You know, winning is great,
- 26:28Speaker 2: we want to see that. We all kind of live
- 26:29Speaker 2: and die every week with the wins and losses. But
- 26:32Speaker 2: this was a year for him to establish himself as
- 26:34Speaker 2: a coach at this level, but also establish the culture. Alex,
- 26:37Speaker 2: I don't think if you're a Wazoo fan, you could
- 26:39Speaker 2: be any happier with what you've seen with Jimmy and
- 26:41Speaker 2: his staff.
- 26:42Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think it's very true.
- 26:43Speaker 12: You know, I think the you know, there's some real
- 26:45Speaker 12: challenges obviously in this day and age in college football
- 26:48Speaker 12: to be to be a coach. And but but I
- 26:51Speaker 12: think coach Rogers has the right idea, which is that
- 26:54Speaker 12: you know, if he's if he's honest with people, if
- 26:57Speaker 12: he you know, if he tells them like it is,
- 26:59Speaker 12: if he coaches hard, if he gives people an understanding
- 27:02Speaker 12: of the why, then they're going to buy in, you
- 27:04Speaker 12: know what I mean. I think about the quarterback situation, right,
- 27:06Speaker 12: and this is somebody asked me over the weekend if
- 27:08Speaker 12: I thought Michael Leach would be a good coach in
- 27:10Speaker 12: the nil kind of transfer polar era because of the
- 27:13Speaker 12: way coach, because of the way right, because of the way
- 27:14Speaker 12: coach handled players and handled situations.
- 27:17Speaker 9: And my answer is yes. And the reason I say
- 27:18Speaker 9: that is because you know what what coach Leech.
- 27:21Speaker 12: Sure he would have lost the players along the way,
- 27:23Speaker 12: but what he always could do is, you know, find
- 27:25Speaker 12: players that fit his system, get to buy into what
- 27:27Speaker 12: he wanted to do, make make more with less, and
- 27:30Speaker 12: then his honesty really allowed people to see through right
- 27:34Speaker 12: all the bs.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Right.
- 27:35Speaker 12: I think about the quarterback situation with Jimmy Rodgers, Right,
- 27:38Speaker 12: they go with Jackson Potter out of camp, which is fine, right,
- 27:40Speaker 12: that was the decision.
- 27:42Speaker 9: But he made a decision quickly after a couple of
- 27:44Speaker 9: games that a player wasn't meeting the standard, and he
- 27:47Speaker 9: went quickly back to his VX coups, right, And that's
- 27:48Speaker 9: a hard thing to do.
- 27:49Speaker 12: People take that for granted, and I think that type
- 27:52Speaker 12: of decision making in the locker room creates a lot
- 27:54Speaker 12: of buying.
- 27:55Speaker 10: Yeah, and a lot of times too.
- 27:57Speaker 11: It's such an unpopular decision to do that, and I
- 28:00Speaker 11: think coaches oftentimes wait because of pride.
- 28:03Speaker 10: They're like, I made this decision. I need to make
- 28:05Speaker 10: it work. And you're right. To your credit, Alex, he
- 28:08Speaker 10: was like, I'm I'm gonna I fall on the sword.
- 28:10Speaker 10: I messed up. Let's get back to it, right, and
- 28:13Speaker 10: we know there's just more to the story. Event.
- 28:15Speaker 2: How important was it mk for them to finish. They
- 28:17Speaker 2: didn't finish against Ole Miss, they didn't finish against Virginia,
- 28:19Speaker 2: two winnable games. But this game was I mean, it
- 28:21Speaker 2: wasn't the balance. I People look at the final score
- 28:23Speaker 2: and say, wow, I mean they've been about three touchdowns.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Toledo had a chance to tie the game and a
- 28:28Speaker 2: couple different times and had a chance to do something
- 28:30Speaker 2: and they couldn't get it done and the defense stood up.
- 28:33Speaker 2: But how important was just you hear that word all
- 28:34Speaker 2: the time in football, especially you guys on the defensive side.
- 28:37Speaker 2: We'll get to Alex in a second on the offensive side,
- 28:38Speaker 2: but by running the ball, but finish, how important was that?
- 28:41Speaker 9: Well?
- 28:41Speaker 11: Think about this like Ole miss. You see what they're
- 28:43Speaker 11: doing to people out there. They're winning games and we
- 28:45Speaker 11: took them to the wire. You know, same thing with Virginia.
- 28:47Speaker 11: But I am the biggest advocate of never giving a
- 28:50Speaker 11: moral victory. But to see a Washington State go on
- 28:54Speaker 11: the road and play the way they did was very,
- 28:57Speaker 11: very encouraging to see what the future looks like for
- 29:00Speaker 11: this team, right, So that was exciting to see. It
- 29:03Speaker 11: was exciting to see the defense step up and play.
- 29:05Speaker 11: Now they come over their back home in Washington at
- 29:08Speaker 11: Washington State after weeks, right, they're back at home. They
- 29:11Speaker 11: have this big win against a great to leader that
- 29:13Speaker 11: to Leedo team is a great team. I shouldn't say, gaye,
- 29:16Speaker 11: they're a very good team.
- 29:17Speaker 10: Right.
- 29:17Speaker 11: And to see the defense go out there eleven heads
- 29:19Speaker 11: to the football, you know, holding the seven points, that's
- 29:22Speaker 11: exactly what you want to see your defense do at
- 29:24Speaker 11: home is hold a team to seven points or less.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Alex finishing on the offensive side, especially right, how big
- 29:29Speaker 2: was that?
- 29:30Speaker 12: I mean yeah, I mean that last kind of drive
- 29:32Speaker 12: or second to last drive, whatever you want to count it,
- 29:34Speaker 12: where they everybody knew they were running the football right
- 29:36Speaker 12: and they had to and they had to do and
- 29:38Speaker 12: they went and executed kind of put that finishing score
- 29:41Speaker 12: in the fourth Jimmy Jimmy.
- 29:43Speaker 9: Rodgers been talking about it all year, trying to find
- 29:45Speaker 9: that right.
- 29:46Speaker 12: And also, mind you, they're doing it down to right tackles, right,
- 29:49Speaker 12: They've got a gun an offensive line. They moved around
- 29:52Speaker 12: completely with no Dunam at left guard, you know, and
- 29:55Speaker 12: they still rush for their highest output on the year,
- 29:58Speaker 12: right one hundred over one hundred and sixty yards, so
- 29:59Speaker 12: I thought.
- 30:00Speaker 9: But in the end, that was really impressive.
- 30:01Speaker 12: I think, you know, Zebie Cows is going to watch
- 30:03Speaker 12: that film and and realize he needs to be a
- 30:05Speaker 12: little bit tighter with the football because to your point,
- 30:08Speaker 12: and if the defense didn't, if the defense didn't stand
- 30:11Speaker 12: up like it could have gotten real tight.
- 30:13Speaker 9: But look, that's part of playing compmentary football, you know
- 30:15Speaker 9: what I mean.
- 30:16Speaker 12: Quarterbacks turn the ball over sometimes right, defenses sometimes give
- 30:19Speaker 12: up big plays.
- 30:20Speaker 9: You got to find a way to make it work.
- 30:21Speaker 12: And you've noticed this team, uh seems to be able
- 30:24Speaker 12: to do that right for the most part.
- 30:26Speaker 10: And here he loves barhe's too. I mean to see
- 30:28Speaker 10: him run.
- 30:28Speaker 2: You were running. Hey, one sixty two and two touchdowns.
- 30:32Speaker 2: We'll take that all day. All right, let's do this,
- 30:35Speaker 2: take a quick break. We'll come back. Familiar face on
- 30:37Speaker 2: the opposing sideline for Oregon State. They're going through all
- 30:40Speaker 2: kinds of problems down to Corvallis. We'll talk about that next.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Not even gage your FM.
- 30:49Speaker 1: From the R and R Foundation specialist broadcast studio. Now
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- 31:05Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, Sega saving cous Not since
- 31:07Speaker 2: nineteen forty five have the Coogs and the Beavers played
- 31:11Speaker 2: twice in one season. It's a unique year, obviously, with
- 31:13Speaker 2: the transition from the old PAC twelve to next year's
- 31:16Speaker 2: new PAC twelve. So two, I mean, both teams having
- 31:19Speaker 2: to fill out schedules just kind of a little bit
- 31:21Speaker 2: of a Gong show in that regard. So two games
- 31:22Speaker 2: get home at home against the Beaver is very NFL like,
- 31:26Speaker 2: let's let's go first and foremost big changes down in
- 31:29Speaker 2: corvallis really Trent Bray's good dude and he was a
- 31:33Speaker 2: former It's it's I think there's some Paul Wolf there
- 31:35Speaker 2: in a sense, you know, a great Kug and a
- 31:37Speaker 2: great Beaver and then it just didn't work out at
- 31:39Speaker 2: their alma mater as a head coach. They let him go. Alex,
- 31:42Speaker 2: you're down there close to it as well. They brought
- 31:44Speaker 2: in a guy that we're all familiar with, drim coach
- 31:47Speaker 2: man coach Akey. He'll be jumping up and down, running
- 31:50Speaker 2: around the sideline. I don't know, he's like seventy years old.
- 31:52Speaker 2: And the guy looks like he's thirty five when he's
- 31:54Speaker 2: jumping around there. But tell us about what's going on
- 31:57Speaker 2: with the Beaves and having rob Aky. I just a
- 32:00Speaker 2: good dude all the way around. And uh and I'm
- 32:02Speaker 2: sure he's got that team playing better.
- 32:04Speaker 10: Well.
- 32:04Speaker 12: Yeah, I was in Sasure, which you know candidly that
- 32:07Speaker 12: they would have waited on the coach brave fire and
- 32:09Speaker 12: until after the year because as as MK can attest
- 32:12Speaker 12: to the one thing that you know rob Akey does
- 32:14Speaker 12: best is motivated players right and gets buy in. And
- 32:17Speaker 12: then a tough season, Oregon States got all sorts of issues,
- 32:19Speaker 12: you know, on the field and off the field, right
- 32:21Speaker 12: they they rob Aky's kind of just what they need
- 32:25Speaker 12: and he helped study the ship a little bit. They
- 32:26Speaker 12: get a win against Lafayette, which FCS opponent. But at
- 32:29Speaker 12: the same time, when you when you don't have a
- 32:31Speaker 12: win on the season, but you'll take them wherever you
- 32:32Speaker 12: can get them, and so and then on top of that,
- 32:34Speaker 12: right the Beavers are coming off of bye week, so
- 32:37Speaker 12: they get a chance to kind of settle in. You know,
- 32:40Speaker 12: this this one scares me honestly because it's the type
- 32:42Speaker 12: of game that you can easily overlook. You but I
- 32:45Speaker 12: watched the film right of Oregon State. They still have
- 32:47Speaker 12: the you know, the same level caliber of players that
- 32:50Speaker 12: you would expect at Oregon State. They just haven't put
- 32:52Speaker 12: the schemes together. And so you know they've got you know,
- 32:54Speaker 12: offensive coordinator. They may have changed there where they went
- 32:56Speaker 12: from Ryan Gunderson to Danny Langsdorf, who's a long time
- 32:59Speaker 12: offensive coordinat for Oregon State. So you know, he knows
- 33:01Speaker 12: what he's doing. You got you know Rob, you know,
- 33:03Speaker 12: coach Shakey's obviously the headman now. And you know, on defense,
- 33:06Speaker 12: a couple of guys that have been.
- 33:07Speaker 9: Around the block.
- 33:08Speaker 12: So I you know, again, I think Washington State needs
- 33:10Speaker 12: to be very focused on this game.
- 33:11Speaker 9: I think from an Oregon State perspective.
- 33:13Speaker 12: You know, they have a guy in Rob Aky that
- 33:16Speaker 12: everybody loves, and if you need to play for a
- 33:18Speaker 12: guy you love, and they got nothing to lose.
- 33:20Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, we're looking at these coaches too.
- 33:24Speaker 11: They're so special to a lot of us because you remember,
- 33:26Speaker 11: you know, as these young players, when you leave your home,
- 33:29Speaker 11: your parents aren't there anymore. These coaches become your your
- 33:31Speaker 11: father figures, right or your your your leaders or mentors
- 33:35Speaker 11: and things like that. So you know Rob Baker, we
- 33:36Speaker 11: used to call him Pops like that was like our dad.
- 33:38Speaker 8: You know.
- 33:38Speaker 10: I was seventeen years old when I walked on the campus.
- 33:41Speaker 11: You know, so this guy, you know, he he instilled
- 33:44Speaker 11: confidence in me as a young athlete. You know, he
- 33:46Speaker 11: got me excited about playing football. You know, I was
- 33:48Speaker 11: a quarterback in high school. Ho'm if I told you
- 33:50Speaker 11: that of the crap quarterback, but I ended up playing
- 33:53Speaker 11: defensive line. He was my first defensive line coach in college,
- 33:56Speaker 11: and he brought that that dog out of me essentially right.
- 34:00Speaker 11: And he has the ability to take a player Dimon
- 34:03Speaker 11: in the rough and get the max out of him.
- 34:05Speaker 11: So that's what I love about rob Akon. I'm glad
- 34:07Speaker 11: he landed on his feet there. But but again, like
- 34:09Speaker 11: Alex said, I think Washington State's gonna I think they're
- 34:12Speaker 11: gonna put the old screws to him for sure.
- 34:15Speaker 2: First of all, I know your high school coach. I
- 34:17Speaker 2: know all about your high school career. You were alleged
- 34:18Speaker 2: at Liberty like you were legend at Liberty, I think.
- 34:21Speaker 2: And I hear the name Ryan Gunnerson. God did I
- 34:24Speaker 2: Were you in the same All State game in Oregon
- 34:26Speaker 2: with him? Yeah, Alex, Yeah, I called that game on
- 34:28Speaker 2: the radio. Yeah, I did that game on the radio
- 34:30Speaker 2: the old PG Park before he renovated it. Now I'm
- 34:33Speaker 2: feeling old, and now I'm feeling old more so. The
- 34:35Speaker 2: Pomps pops achey. All right, let's just we'll kind of
- 34:38Speaker 2: wrap it up with this four and four. It's there's
- 34:42Speaker 2: very winnable games left on the schedule. Alex, his team's
- 34:44Speaker 2: got some really good opportunities down the stretch to get
- 34:47Speaker 2: to that six win plateau seven or eight even as
- 34:50Speaker 2: possible for sure, Alex, how important is it to get
- 34:53Speaker 2: to that level? I mean, I know bowl games maybe
- 34:55Speaker 2: aren't what they used to be with the college Football playoff,
- 34:57Speaker 2: but for a program like ours, how important is it
- 34:59Speaker 2: to get those wins?
- 35:00Speaker 9: Yeah? The national visibility is vital, you know.
- 35:02Speaker 12: I mean you see where Oregon State's at right, Like,
- 35:04Speaker 12: when it goes off the rails, it becomes a real
- 35:06Speaker 12: problem when it both from kind of your national national prominence, recruiting,
- 35:12Speaker 12: you know, fundraising, like all.
- 35:14Speaker 9: The things become immensely difficult.
- 35:15Speaker 12: And you can see on the flip side, you know,
- 35:17Speaker 12: the rhetoric around Washington State right now is so positive. Right,
- 35:19Speaker 12: two tough road wins to erod losses to you know,
- 35:22Speaker 12: ranked opponents, and then your home win.
- 35:24Speaker 9: I mean people, you know, I think people are feeling
- 35:26Speaker 9: pretty good.
- 35:26Speaker 13: Now.
- 35:26Speaker 12: What I will say is, you know, coups have kind
- 35:29Speaker 12: of gotten back control of their season, right, Like you said,
- 35:31Speaker 12: four winnable games left a lot on the table here.
- 35:35Speaker 12: They need to take advantage, right, because I think you
- 35:37Speaker 12: would feel it will it'll feel like last year a
- 35:39Speaker 12: little bit if if you end up six and six
- 35:41Speaker 12: in my opinion, where it's like you left a few
- 35:43Speaker 12: on you left some on the table, right and so,
- 35:46Speaker 12: but you know that being said, imagine seven or eight
- 35:48Speaker 12: wins for this team with those close losses to Old
- 35:51Speaker 12: Miss in Virginia. I think people would say, hey, this
- 35:53Speaker 12: is a really positive year one for Jimmy Rodgers hundred percent.
- 35:58Speaker 10: There's I mean, you kind of said it any better.
- 36:00Speaker 11: Seven and eight wins this season is an absolute w
- 36:02Speaker 11: four for Washington State moving forward and then going into
- 36:05Speaker 11: next year.
- 36:05Speaker 10: And I think it's going to help with recruiting as well.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's the thing is is
- 36:09Speaker 2: you want to have those extra opportunities, the extra practices,
- 36:12Speaker 2: all those things. And Alex you mentioned it going on.
- 36:15Speaker 2: I mean, what happened to Oregon State is just crazy,
- 36:17Speaker 2: you know, and how fast it just dropped. And I
- 36:19Speaker 2: think the one dangerous thing Alex you mentioned this on
- 36:22Speaker 2: the radio broadcast the other day. I think it was
- 36:25Speaker 2: there's still Division one players, there's still you know, f
- 36:28Speaker 2: there's still power five, power four, whatever you want to
- 36:30Speaker 2: call it. Caliber players on on Wazoo's team and on
- 36:34Speaker 2: Oregon State's team. Right, there's still dudes they recruited. That's
- 36:36Speaker 2: why this is a dangerous team, a dangerous game, and
- 36:39Speaker 2: Akey's going to have them ready to go.
- 36:41Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I mean the running back Anthony Hankerson,
- 36:44Speaker 12: I mean, he's a real threat.
- 36:45Speaker 9: He's a real player.
- 36:46Speaker 7: Right.
- 36:46Speaker 12: The wide receiver group's really good, you know, quarterback wise,
- 36:50Speaker 12: they're trying to figure it out. But both players are talented.
- 36:52Speaker 12: They both can beat you, and so in Jabari Johnson
- 36:54Speaker 12: and Milaike Murphy. So again, I just I think Washington
- 36:57Speaker 12: State and I think they will. But you know, this
- 36:59Speaker 12: is going to be a defense led game again, and
- 37:01Speaker 12: you can't turn the football over on the road, as
- 37:03Speaker 12: we found out, you know at Virginia. So you know,
- 37:06Speaker 12: we'll see how this team responds to some positivity, right, posit.
- 37:09Speaker 12: Lets see how they respond to two good things happening and.
- 37:11Speaker 10: Heads off to the deep.
- 37:12Speaker 11: The defense is playing amazing, but but another thing on
- 37:15Speaker 11: top of that is how do you get the defense
- 37:16Speaker 11: off the field, And that's getting first downs?
- 37:18Speaker 10: And we've seen Washington State get a lot more first
- 37:21Speaker 10: down since that it's been in the game.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's been it's been fun to watch. All right,
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- 38:13Speaker 2: I just have this picture in my mind of whether
- 38:16Speaker 2: it was DoBeS or whoever you were playing for back then,
- 38:18Speaker 2: MK you walking out in the field. Now I'm a quarterback.
- 38:20Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.
- 38:23Speaker 10: He told me before I came, he said, your quarterback
- 38:26Speaker 10: days are over percent.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Guys, thank you so much. We'll talk to you next week.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Take care.
- 38:31Speaker 9: Thanks yet, go kooks.
- 38:32Speaker 2: That's Alex, that's MK. We'll take a break. John Lutter
- 38:35Speaker 2: rejoins us after a couple of weeks absence as well.
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- 39:28Speaker 2: They're staggering starts. Actually there's games starting here in the
- 39:30Speaker 2: next half hour. Okay, Monday night football. Commanders lost to
- 39:33Speaker 2: the Chiefs in Kansas City, twenty eight to seven. Was
- 39:36Speaker 2: the final. Marcus Mariota twenty one to twenty two thirteen
- 39:39Speaker 2: a touchdown, two interceptions, So what's going on with him?
- 39:42Speaker 2: Sounders lost of Minnesota first round the MLS Playoffs. At
- 39:45Speaker 2: least it's the best of three, Thank goodness. Minnesota won
- 39:48Speaker 2: three to two on penalty kicks. They scored three penalty kicks.
- 39:52Speaker 2: Seattle miss three penalty kicks. Still trying to figure out
- 39:54Speaker 2: how that happens when Schmetz are on worse felts. He's
- 39:59Speaker 2: got to answer for this. You want me he's impressed
- 40:02Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas' goal. That's what you make the switch. You
- 40:05Speaker 2: put Andrew in gole with pks. Stephs, we love you,
- 40:08Speaker 2: Steph ring of honor.
- 40:10Speaker 9: Guy.
- 40:10Speaker 2: If there is such a thing in soccer but you
- 40:12Speaker 2: can't stop at PK, I might have a better chance
- 40:14Speaker 2: right now that needs and all probably abut day high school.
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- 40:47Speaker 2: All right with the two oclock hour, Hopefully Lend will
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- 40:50Speaker 2: get a thumbs up from one of you two and
- 40:52Speaker 2: we'll move on and get him in there. Big thanks
- 40:54Speaker 2: to Josh, and we didn't get anally chance to react
- 40:56Speaker 2: to Joe after the we at the Cougar segment the
- 40:57Speaker 2: last couple of minutes the the conversation with Joe regarding
- 41:03Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, and I wanted just to kind of move on,
- 41:06Speaker 2: but we teased it last week and we couldn't connect
- 41:09Speaker 2: with Joe. We had some issues, so I wanted to
- 41:11Speaker 2: get his thoughts because he wrote about it. Extensively about
- 41:13Speaker 2: the Dan Wilson part of the Mariner's playoff run. And
- 41:18Speaker 2: first of all, let me just take one step back.
- 41:20Speaker 2: If you are one of those that's going to look
- 41:22Speaker 2: at an award like the Sporting News Manager of the
- 41:25Speaker 2: Year in the American League, please don't. First of all,
- 41:29Speaker 2: the fact and I know peers vote on stuff like
- 41:32Speaker 2: that with the Sporting News, but I don't know. I
- 41:34Speaker 2: have a hard time taking a publication seriously that when
- 41:36Speaker 2: the day announcement was awards, they also laid off half
- 41:38Speaker 2: their staff. So weird, but that's not what it's about.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Joe did a great job in that segment of talking
- 41:48Speaker 2: about why last night's game was epic in so many ways.
- 41:53Speaker 2: And one of the reasons last night's game was so wild,
- 41:58Speaker 2: whether you like Roberts or not, like Schneider or not,
- 42:00Speaker 2: the two managers had to go toe to toe and
- 42:02Speaker 2: they had to earn their key last night. And we
- 42:04Speaker 2: like to say in sports, there's a big well the
- 42:07Speaker 2: sport that it doesn't matter the most matters the least.
- 42:09Speaker 2: Coaching is baseball, not last night. And it wasn't just
- 42:14Speaker 2: the manager, it was it had to be a team effort.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Your pitching coach, your bullpen coach, your assistant pitching coach,
- 42:21Speaker 2: all the above had to know the following who's available,
- 42:25Speaker 2: how long can they go? What are the matchups? Because
- 42:28Speaker 2: we still have to look at all those things and
- 42:31Speaker 2: we're trying to figure all that out. And what Crawford
- 42:35Speaker 2: said in our group text last night, I was thinking
- 42:37Speaker 2: it was a tweet, but he doesn't tweet anymore.
- 42:39Speaker 9: Nope.
- 42:41Speaker 2: So but what he was saying last night, Andrews, was
- 42:44Speaker 2: that one of the things, like for it to be
- 42:47Speaker 2: a classic game, you know, I'd like to see some
- 42:50Speaker 2: more runs. And initially I agreed with him because I think,
- 42:52Speaker 2: I think, you know what, give me a run in
- 42:54Speaker 2: the top of the twelfth and answer to the bottom
- 42:56Speaker 2: of the thirteenth or bottom of the twelfth, same thing.
- 42:58Speaker 2: In the fifteenth or sixteenth. We had no runs.
- 43:00Speaker 4: A lot of the case, more scoring equals more exciting.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Last night was maybe the exception of the rule. And
- 43:06Speaker 2: Chris admittedly hadn't watched most of the game. Sure he
- 43:08Speaker 2: had some other stuff going on. So and I'm thinking
- 43:11Speaker 2: about it, And then we talked to Joe today. That
- 43:13Speaker 2: might have been one of the wildest, fun most fun
- 43:16Speaker 2: crazy baseball games. Now it lasted too long for being honest, like,
- 43:18Speaker 2: it just lasted too long. But no strangers to that here,
- 43:22Speaker 2: No we're not, but everything that went into that, And
- 43:27Speaker 2: then I started thinking, hmm, unfairly or not? And maybe
- 43:31Speaker 2: this is unfairly. I started to think, well, if it
- 43:35Speaker 2: was the Mariners and Dan Wilson as opposed to John
- 43:39Speaker 2: Schneider and the Blue Jays would have even got to eighteen,
- 43:44Speaker 2: because if you can't manage a Game seven in the
- 43:48Speaker 2: sixth inning, how can you manage a World Series game
- 43:50Speaker 2: in the tenth through eighteenth innings? Right?
- 43:54Speaker 10: Right?
- 43:55Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's a fair criticism or not,
- 43:56Speaker 2: but after talking to Joe at one o'clock, I think
- 43:58Speaker 2: maybe it is. I think maybe that is a fair criticism.
- 44:02Speaker 2: But last night take nothing away. Yeah.
- 44:04Speaker 4: I equate it to like a lot of people like
- 44:07Speaker 4: to bag on soccer because there's not very much scoring, right,
- 44:10Speaker 4: but there can be so much that goes on in
- 44:13Speaker 4: a one zero or one one game besides just the
- 44:17Speaker 4: goals that are scored. There can be just crazy clearances,
- 44:21Speaker 4: great saves, injuries, red cards, all that kind of stuff.
- 44:25Speaker 4: And I kind of equate that's baseball's version of it
- 44:28Speaker 4: last night. Even though there wasn't a ton of scoring
- 44:30Speaker 4: for an eighteen inning game, I think there was so
- 44:33Speaker 4: many and I think Joe put it perfectly baseball plays
- 44:36Speaker 4: that had to be made, whether it was Villi gross
- 44:39Speaker 4: thort of third base to get Taoscar Hernandez out. By
- 44:41Speaker 4: the way, you guys got the full ta Oskar Hernandez
- 44:44Speaker 4: experience last night. A home run, a base running mistake,
- 44:49Speaker 4: and a couple bad throws, and right, they're yeah, exactly.
- 44:53Speaker 2: I mean he cut the I mean he hit the
- 44:55Speaker 2: cutoff man to get the guy out.
- 44:56Speaker 4: To say, the game and you descend from John Schneider
- 44:59Speaker 4: in that moment with La Guerrero Junior on deck with
- 45:02Speaker 4: two outs.
- 45:02Speaker 2: Okay, so I thought about that too, and that's the
- 45:05Speaker 2: book would say, no, yes, but there's two outs, correct,
- 45:08Speaker 2: you have a guy that's a fast runner, correct, and
- 45:11Speaker 2: it would have taken what happened and absolutely perfect and
- 45:15Speaker 2: I mean a perfect play. Yeah, throw from an outfield,
- 45:19Speaker 2: throw to the cutoff man, and throw home.
- 45:21Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 45:21Speaker 4: The only reason I'm a little bit hesitant on it
- 45:24Speaker 4: is because he was out by so much.
- 45:25Speaker 2: He was out by a time. Yeah, if it.
- 45:27Speaker 4: Was a close play, it's like all right, you try
- 45:29Speaker 4: to get the run of two outs, so I understand,
- 45:33Speaker 4: but uh yeah, you just you hate to see moments
- 45:35Speaker 4: like that because man just going against him. You know
- 45:38Speaker 4: how scary Vlad can be, and leaving that guy on
- 45:40Speaker 4: deck with two outs is a little it leaves a
- 45:43Speaker 4: rough taste in your mouth.
- 45:44Speaker 2: You can go back. It's an interesting thing you brought up
- 45:46Speaker 2: to about soccer because you know, I we had we
- 45:50Speaker 2: had a hockey game last week that was that was
- 45:55Speaker 2: basically kind of like a one nothing or zero zero
- 45:59Speaker 2: hockey soccer game in the sense that it was it
- 46:02Speaker 2: was a three nothing game, but it's one nothing until
- 46:03Speaker 2: they hit two mpon enders of the end. Yet I
- 46:05Speaker 2: would make the argument as one of the best games
- 46:07Speaker 2: I've ever seen, Like it was phenomenal, the Winnipeg game.
- 46:09Speaker 2: It was just an incredible game, and we talked about
- 46:11Speaker 2: on our post game show, Elson and I did so.
- 46:14Speaker 2: I think most of us always want more scoring, but
- 46:16Speaker 2: sometimes less scoring means more intense action. Now soccer is
- 46:20Speaker 2: a different beast, and I understand because it is inherently
- 46:23Speaker 2: low scoring and people are kind of not into that sometimes.
- 46:27Speaker 2: But Andrews is right there. There are games that you know,
- 46:29Speaker 2: you watch it. Well, hell, we're what are we ten
- 46:32Speaker 2: months away? Nine months away from the World Cup? Coming here?
- 46:34Speaker 2: You're gonna see games at a zero zero and one
- 46:36Speaker 2: nothing then one nil rather that are that are incredibly
- 46:40Speaker 2: intense along the way, all right, johnlens here, let's go.
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- 47:45Speaker 7: We're doing all of the NFL.
- 47:46Speaker 2: I love it awesome. So when when are you want?
- 47:49Speaker 2: When you know? When can people find you? Where do
- 47:51Speaker 2: they find you? Now?
- 47:53Speaker 7: So hit me up right now. We're doing a website
- 47:57Speaker 7: and everything, and we're doing like Sunday Monday thirty day
- 48:00Speaker 7: on YouTube. But we're doing a ton of stuff as
- 48:02Speaker 7: like aggregators and things like that on X and all
- 48:05Speaker 7: social media. So at PfP wire, that's all you'll find
- 48:08Speaker 7: this everywhere.
- 48:08Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 48:09Speaker 7: And we just started this venture up and it's it's
- 48:11Speaker 7: actually been off to a really good start.
- 48:12Speaker 2: I love it. Well, good job, congrats man, that's cool.
- 48:15Speaker 2: That's very cool. Yeah, I was like, looking back, I
- 48:16Speaker 2: used to go back and I have tried to listen to
- 48:18Speaker 2: John Lonnon un the leash and I haven't seen it
- 48:20Speaker 2: up there for a while, and I'm like, all right,
- 48:22Speaker 2: well whatever, he's, you know, busy guy doing stuff.
- 48:23Speaker 7: So good transitioning for transitioning.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Did you see you have people working for you?
- 48:30Speaker 7: Dude, I've had people work for me before. You have
- 48:33Speaker 7: the same reaction that everybody has. I've programmed radio stations,
- 48:36Speaker 7: I've been the boss, I've been the rich more I've
- 48:38Speaker 7: been that, I've been that, I've done it all right,
- 48:41Speaker 7: people have worked for me before.
- 48:42Speaker 10: I know.
- 48:43Speaker 7: It's unbelievable.
- 48:44Speaker 2: You know what have you know what? You're right? I
- 48:47Speaker 2: forgot you. I forgot you were a program director. I
- 48:51Speaker 2: forgot about that. Yeah, I forgot was.
- 48:54Speaker 7: Very good at it.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah I did. Maybe the third or four
- 48:57Speaker 2: maybe the third or fourth time will be a charm.
- 48:58Speaker 2: What the hell? Right? You get it done?
- 49:03Speaker 9: Never know?
- 49:04Speaker 2: Keep on trying fall bike enough times? Well let's talk NFL, buddy,
- 49:08Speaker 2: let's go see. I was coming off of bye week.
- 49:10Speaker 2: The forty nine ers are five and three after losing
- 49:13Speaker 2: to Houston, and I'm saying, all all joking aside, are
- 49:18Speaker 2: they doing it at five and three with smoking mirrors
- 49:21Speaker 2: or what? We saw last week some struggles in Houston.
- 49:24Speaker 2: Is that kind of where it's going to be because
- 49:25Speaker 2: the injuries are unbelievable.
- 49:28Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a camp because yeah, they have
- 49:30Speaker 7: like a hundre. It's unbelievable in that they have nearly
- 49:33Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars on the books of injuries and
- 49:36Speaker 7: it's by far the most in the league. But I
- 49:38Speaker 7: think what's most applicable this week is, you guys just
- 49:42Speaker 7: saw Houston and look, that's a good defense. But they
- 49:45Speaker 7: just bottled up CJ. Stroud and they bottled up this offense.
- 49:48Speaker 7: And if it wasn't for all the turnovers and all
- 49:50Speaker 7: the dumb stuff that they did, they'd probably blown out
- 49:52Speaker 7: Houston buy a few touchdowns. And that was at home
- 49:55Speaker 7: where they don't.
- 49:56Speaker 9: Play as well.
- 49:56Speaker 7: So you know, the forty nine ers Mac Jones can
- 49:58Speaker 7: only go so far. These dummies who were saying, well,
- 50:01Speaker 7: you know, he's as good as party, No he's not.
- 50:03Speaker 7: He's not even the same thing. And they engineered the
- 50:07Speaker 7: offense so that Matt Jones could be competent in this offense,
- 50:10Speaker 7: but he's not the same thing. And then, like you said,
- 50:12Speaker 7: when you lose Bosa and you lose Warner and the
- 50:15Speaker 7: Seahawks have lost these type of players. It's not just
- 50:17Speaker 7: the production on the field, it's the leadership and it's
- 50:21Speaker 7: what they provide. And when you look right next to him,
- 50:23Speaker 7: you know, like when Scattaboy got hurt for the Giants,
- 50:25Speaker 7: it was just like the the air came out of
- 50:27Speaker 7: the balloon. That's the type of players that they're losing.
- 50:30Speaker 7: So I think Kyle Shanahan's doing a great job, and
- 50:32Speaker 7: I know in Seattle you're not gonna believe that, and
- 50:35Speaker 7: you're not going to agree with that. He's doing maybe
- 50:37Speaker 7: his best job ever. But they just don't have the horses. Man.
- 50:39Speaker 7: Their offensive line is not very good, and they want
- 50:41Speaker 7: to do what Seattle wants to do when I run
- 50:43Speaker 7: the ball. They want to play defense. They want to
- 50:45Speaker 7: play smash mouth. When you don't have an offensive line
- 50:47Speaker 7: that can do it, when you don't have a defensive
- 50:48Speaker 7: line that can do it, and you lose your heart
- 50:50Speaker 7: beat and your linebacker. You know, it's just one of
- 50:52Speaker 7: those years for them, And it was one of those
- 50:53Speaker 7: years for them last year. So they've got a lot
- 50:56Speaker 7: of injuries. They've got the most injuries in the league.
- 50:59Speaker 7: And I don't care how good the.
- 51:00Speaker 9: Team you are.
- 51:00Speaker 7: Now they're lying to me and you and I talk
- 51:02Speaker 7: about this a lot. They were going to rely on
- 51:04Speaker 7: a lot of rookies anyway, and now those rookies have
- 51:06Speaker 7: to play an or amount of snaps and it's just
- 51:08Speaker 7: not gonna work.
- 51:09Speaker 2: Once refresh my memory because both is out for the year.
- 51:11Speaker 2: Is we're out for the year? Yep?
- 51:13Speaker 10: He is? Okay?
- 51:14Speaker 7: Oh yeah, his foot turned the wrong one. It was
- 51:17Speaker 7: one of those you know, those ones just like Scattery
- 51:19Speaker 7: just had like one of those ones where the announcers like,
- 51:21Speaker 7: you know, uh, well, we're not going to show you this,
- 51:24Speaker 7: you know, and then of course I got to do
- 51:26Speaker 7: is go to social media and they'll show it a
- 51:27Speaker 7: million times. Yeah, he was one of those ones that
- 51:29Speaker 7: he had the dislocated ankle where you know it's going
- 51:31Speaker 7: the wrong way. Can you that's not good?
- 51:33Speaker 2: Do you watch that or do you look away?
- 51:36Speaker 7: I watch it. I can't help it.
- 51:38Speaker 6: At least I knew once and I.
- 51:40Speaker 2: Why did I do that?
- 51:41Speaker 7: You know?
- 51:41Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 51:42Speaker 2: I don't watch it, Yeah exactly, I don't watch it.
- 51:43Speaker 2: My kid. My kid watches it. He's just like he'll
- 51:46Speaker 2: watch it. We'll watching red Zone. Oh, oh no, rewind that.
- 51:49Speaker 2: I'm like, no, No, idiots completely, I wouldn't think that
- 51:53Speaker 2: because he played, he wouldn't want to see it, you know,
- 51:55Speaker 2: because he played offensive line. He's an offensive lineman. Those
- 51:58Speaker 2: guys are different. Like there would be guys I watched
- 52:01Speaker 2: him the play. They'd be guys like you know, broken
- 52:04Speaker 2: legs or something like, you know, bad on the field,
- 52:06Speaker 2: and you know who would always walk over the offensive
- 52:08Speaker 2: line just to kind of look at and see what's
- 52:09Speaker 2: going on, your legs going the wrong way. Like they're
- 52:13Speaker 2: just yeah, they're just a different for a little and
- 52:15Speaker 2: like I'm like, no, man, I I can't watch that.
- 52:18Speaker 2: They can't rewind it. No, I'm not rewinding it, idiot,
- 52:22Speaker 2: all right, Yeah go ahead.
- 52:25Speaker 7: No, I just gonna say like when Scottby was sitting
- 52:27Speaker 7: on the ground and the guy was trying to help
- 52:28Speaker 7: him up, but it was like you couldn't see his
- 52:30Speaker 7: foot because he turned Like I mean, I was like, like,
- 52:35Speaker 7: I scream. I don't know how guys do it. I
- 52:38Speaker 7: don't know if guys do it.
- 52:39Speaker 2: I don't know if the trainers different people.
- 52:42Speaker 7: I don't either. Like if that happened and I was
- 52:44Speaker 7: a trainer, I'd be like, no, not going out, Like
- 52:46Speaker 7: what do you mean You're not going out? I'm not
- 52:47Speaker 7: going out, Like I'm not fixing that. No, I don't
- 52:50Speaker 7: want to look at that.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Who's Who's the best team in the NFC right now?
- 52:53Speaker 2: Is it l A, Is it Green Bag Philly?
- 52:58Speaker 7: If Jordan Love is going to play the way that
- 53:00Speaker 7: he played against Pittsburgh, then it could be Green Bay
- 53:02Speaker 7: because now Michael Parsons is starting to play like at
- 53:04Speaker 7: the beginning, it was like you just let him go
- 53:07Speaker 7: and he's killing it. So you've got a problem with
- 53:10Speaker 7: Michael Parsons. If Jordan Love is gonna play that way,
- 53:13Speaker 7: I mean, Tyler Craft's not gonna play that way all
- 53:15Speaker 7: the time. But I mean, right now, I think it's
- 53:17Speaker 7: between Green Bay and Detroit. I think that's a big thing.
- 53:19Speaker 7: Although you know what I'm seeing all the you know,
- 53:21Speaker 7: the power rankings that don't matter of them in college football,
- 53:23Speaker 7: and a lot of them have the Seahawks up there,
- 53:25Speaker 7: and I like the Seahawks and I like Darnold. The
- 53:28Speaker 7: thing that scares me, and you can tell me this
- 53:30Speaker 7: is do they have enough on the back end? Like
- 53:33Speaker 7: Love's gonna come back, Witherspoon's gonna come back. Are they
- 53:35Speaker 7: moving to Eke Woland? Is he going somewhere else? If so,
- 53:38Speaker 7: it's like an Alante Taylor gonna come from from New
- 53:41Speaker 7: Orleans because you can't just move Trike Wollan And I
- 53:43Speaker 7: like Josh Joe, but he's not quite as good as
- 53:45Speaker 7: he was earlier in the year, So you know, I
- 53:48Speaker 7: think they're scoring. And then the other thing too is
- 53:50Speaker 7: you know who's catching the ball opposite Smith and Jig
- 53:53Speaker 7: But I love that guy and can see how to
- 53:55Speaker 7: run the ball enough. I mean to me, I like Seattle,
- 53:58Speaker 7: like do but I don't think they're on the same
- 54:00Speaker 7: level as a Green bearer to Troy because of what
- 54:03Speaker 7: I just mentioned. Can they run the ball? They have
- 54:05Speaker 7: it enough so far, which in the playoffs you have
- 54:07Speaker 7: to be able to do. And do they have enough
- 54:09Speaker 7: on the back end, like when is Witherspoon coming back?
- 54:11Speaker 7: When is Love coming back? And even then I don't
- 54:14Speaker 7: know if they may need to get a corner. And
- 54:16Speaker 7: I saw Mike McDonald today when he was when he
- 54:18Speaker 7: was asked about it, and he kind of smiled. And
- 54:20Speaker 7: that's what the Seahawks do. They're gonna make an impact trade.
- 54:24Speaker 7: It's just a matter of where do they go with it?
- 54:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't think they just answer that.
- 54:30Speaker 2: I don't think you trade Woolen just because they saw
- 54:34Speaker 2: up close how quickly you can get Sinn at that
- 54:37Speaker 2: cornerback position, right, And the same with Reek's weird. I mean,
- 54:41Speaker 2: he's six', four he's. Long his testing was like in
- 54:45Speaker 2: the ninety nine percentile for almost. Everything the only thing
- 54:49Speaker 2: you have to question And i'm kind of paraphrasing our, guy,
- 54:51Speaker 2: humillin you, know what's what's his compete? Level? Sometimes? Right
- 54:55Speaker 2: and but the, guy there's so much there and then
- 54:58Speaker 2: all of a, sudden when you get down into cornerbacks,
- 55:01Speaker 2: five six and seven like they were for a couple of,
- 55:03Speaker 2: weeks it's a little bit, terrifying like it's not a good.
- 55:06Speaker 2: Thing AND i think that's why, you're you, know you're
- 55:09Speaker 2: a little hesitant to move. HIM i don't know if
- 55:11Speaker 2: they can run the ball well. ENOUGH i guess that's the, Thing,
- 55:13Speaker 2: LIKE i don't know if they can run the. Ball and,
- 55:14Speaker 2: they you, know like at least the forty nine, ers they, know,
- 55:17Speaker 2: hey Like christian McCaffrey's our. Guy we don't mess around
- 55:20Speaker 2: With robinson or anybody. Else it's like he's our. Guy
- 55:22Speaker 2: it's even with The rams sometimes Like kyrien's your. Guy
- 55:25Speaker 2: why Is Blake korham getting? Carries like we asked why
- 55:28Speaker 2: is Zax? Sharmon why is Sax charbony getting? Carries like,
- 55:31Speaker 2: Enough i'll get. It it makes sense and that's.
- 55:34Speaker 7: WHY i and that's HOW i look at the. Division
- 55:36Speaker 7: the forty nine ers are too beat up The cardinals
- 55:38Speaker 7: of The cardinals And rams AND i talked about. It,
- 55:41Speaker 7: YEAH i mean, whatever The cardinals really but you, know
- 55:45Speaker 7: and then you know The rams defensively they're really really.
- 55:49Speaker 7: Good but you know the, stafford what's going on With.
- 55:52Speaker 7: Puka he'll be back at some, point and Then DeVante
- 55:55Speaker 7: adams when he was. Gone when if they get everybody
- 55:57Speaker 7: on the same, page they could be scared off pensively and,
- 55:59Speaker 7: Defensively but The seahawks when they AND i know everybody
- 56:03Speaker 7: kind of listened to what everybody says nationally about. Him The,
- 56:06Speaker 7: SEAHAWKS i don't know how you would describe, him but
- 56:08Speaker 7: they kind of have thish thing going. On like, defensively
- 56:10Speaker 7: they're just getting better and better and better and again
- 56:13Speaker 7: at the back end holds. Up AND i have no
- 56:15Speaker 7: issues With donald LIKE i told you at the whole.
- 56:17Speaker 7: Time smith And jib is absolutely. Awesome and then you,
- 56:21Speaker 7: know can they get? Enough BECAUSE i really think they
- 56:24Speaker 7: can get. Better that's the one thing about The seahawks
- 56:26Speaker 7: IS i don't think they're playing at their. MAX i
- 56:29Speaker 7: think that they're gonna they're gonna get better and. BETTER
- 56:31Speaker 7: i think they're gonna get better. DEFENSIVELY i think they're
- 56:33Speaker 7: gonna get better. OFFENSIVELY i think That Sam donald's you,
- 56:35Speaker 7: know won some, games learned some lessons and really hasn't
- 56:38Speaker 7: been at his best in the last couple of, weeks
- 56:39Speaker 7: AND i think he can actually played.
- 56:41Speaker 2: Better, YEAH i think the McDonald to the to the
- 56:44Speaker 2: defense is Like shanahana McVeigh, Offense like you can lose, key,
- 56:48Speaker 2: guys but you still have pretty high level of, play
- 56:51Speaker 2: just because the coaches at such an elite level in
- 56:53Speaker 2: terms of how he thinks and how he. Coaches AND i,
- 56:55Speaker 2: think you, KNOW i think see that With. KYLE i,
- 56:57Speaker 2: Mean Mac jones looks like a player all of a,
- 56:59Speaker 2: sudden like no one thought he was a, player, RIGHT
- 57:01Speaker 2: i was, like this guy's, done he's washed. Up you can't.
- 57:03Speaker 2: PLAY i, Mean i'm sure you guys are. Down i'm,
- 57:05Speaker 2: sure there's people down there, debating, like, right is there
- 57:07Speaker 2: is there a Pretty jones debate going? On, yeah there
- 57:12Speaker 2: is A i mean.
- 57:12Speaker 7: There was for a, minute but then you start seeing
- 57:14Speaker 7: him kind of come back down to earth. Lie but
- 57:16Speaker 7: not that he played poor Against. Houston houston's got a
- 57:18Speaker 7: really good. Defense, again you guys saw, it but you
- 57:21Speaker 7: made so many, mistakes but it just didn't matter because
- 57:23Speaker 7: your defense was good. Enough the forty nine ers just
- 57:25Speaker 7: don't have that luxury right now with all of their. Injuries,
- 57:28Speaker 7: well LIKE i, said if you count out the forty nine,
- 57:30Speaker 7: ers that's problematic as. Well they're five and three, SOMEHOW
- 57:33Speaker 7: i don't really know, how but he figures it out.
- 57:36Speaker 7: Enough the pretty injury is more than people. Think by the,
- 57:38Speaker 7: way everybody hears a toe and they just for Brock,
- 57:40Speaker 7: perdy they, go, well why can't the guy play Man
- 57:42Speaker 7: Ronnie lot cut off. Thumb it's just not the same.
- 57:44Speaker 7: Thing and when he's when he's not, PLAYING i don't
- 57:49Speaker 7: care what anybody, says and all the national shows screaming
- 57:51Speaker 7: And yellen Rock perry's a really good. Quarterback he's a top,
- 57:54Speaker 7: ten top twelve quarterback depending on the week in this.
- 57:57Speaker 7: League he's much better than Mac jones is and that
- 58:00Speaker 7: gives their offense because what's happening with the forty nine
- 58:02Speaker 7: ers right now is they have to score thirty to
- 58:05Speaker 7: win because defensively, now with all the injuries that they,
- 58:08Speaker 7: have they're just and they don't have Any AND i
- 58:10Speaker 7: told you this right at the beginning of the. Year
- 58:12Speaker 7: they don't have any depth in the, secondary especially at the.
- 58:14Speaker 7: Corners their safeties are young and getting, exposed so They
- 58:18Speaker 7: Robert sala is doing a masterful. Job in, Fact robert
- 58:20Speaker 7: sala this is good news For seahawks.
- 58:22Speaker 2: FANS i.
- 58:22Speaker 7: THINK i Think Robert salo is going to be one
- 58:24Speaker 7: and done as defensive coordinator of the forty nine, ers
- 58:26Speaker 7: and he'll be. Gone and remember how Bad kyle. STRUGGLED i,
- 58:29Speaker 7: mean he hired like three defensive coordinators in three, years
- 58:31Speaker 7: even though they went to A Super. Bowl he couldn't
- 58:33Speaker 7: figure it. Out and what he wants is a guy
- 58:35Speaker 7: who can just take the defense and you, say, okay,
- 58:37Speaker 7: fine just that side you. HAVE i don't want to do.
- 58:40Speaker 7: It kyle hates special, teams he hates dealing with. Defense
- 58:42Speaker 7: he just wants to be an offensive. Mastermind and if
- 58:45Speaker 7: he has. Solid he can do. That if he, doesn't
- 58:47Speaker 7: then he can't and it becomes a problem for the
- 58:49Speaker 7: forty nine. Ers BUT i Think sala has done such
- 58:51Speaker 7: a masterful. Job unless they fall apart in the second
- 58:53Speaker 7: half of the, year he's going to be one and
- 58:55Speaker 7: done and that's good. News bring Back Thomas.
- 58:58Speaker 2: Sule wasn't the defensive coach or? Something what was?
- 59:01Speaker 7: He who is?
- 59:02Speaker 2: That bring him?
- 59:04Speaker 10: Back?
- 59:05Speaker 7: Tom, yeah he was the. Worst you, know it's bad
- 59:10Speaker 7: because lots of times these coaches can win the press
- 59:12Speaker 7: conference like it might be pretty. Good Jim tom Sue
- 59:14Speaker 7: wa blew the press. CONFERENCE i mean it was. Terrible
- 59:17Speaker 7: it was just he was asking, questions he'd know. Anything
- 59:20Speaker 7: it was just, like oh my, god what have they?
- 59:22Speaker 7: Done and it was, JUST i, mean he couldn't even
- 59:24Speaker 7: need the press conference first ten minutes like this is
- 59:26Speaker 7: this is gonna be a, disaster and it.
- 59:27Speaker 2: Was we got we got a couple a couple of.
- 59:29Speaker 2: Texts people want to, know can they still rip you on?
- 59:32Speaker 2: YouTube can they? Still can they still trash?
- 59:35Speaker 6: You?
- 59:35Speaker 2: Where can where can we find lone to rip?
- 59:37Speaker 10: Him?
- 59:37Speaker 2: Page, okay, yeah.
- 59:39Speaker 7: It's AT pfe. Wire it's the exact same page and
- 59:42Speaker 7: it's just got MORE nfl stuff on. It you don't
- 59:45Speaker 7: have some forty nine or stuff on. It but of
- 59:46Speaker 7: course you can constantly go For, yes, ABSOLUTELY i love.
- 59:50Speaker 7: It it's it's it actually makes my. Day. OKAY i
- 59:53Speaker 7: do get more and more and more stuff. From the
- 59:55Speaker 7: more you, win the more GRIEF i. Get like when
- 59:59Speaker 7: they Lost, Houston i'm, LIKE i don't even know these.
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- 1:00:44Speaker 10: People so.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: In Salt. Lake it was like they sent me To
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- 1:01:11Speaker 7: this In? Seattle because this is WHAT i do when
- 1:01:13Speaker 7: my team. LOSES i watched The World series and go
- 1:01:16Speaker 7: And i'll sit there or whatever the, event And i'll,
- 1:01:18Speaker 7: say we would have beat, them we'd have beat. THEM
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- 1:01:25Speaker 7: night's game AND i actually stay through the whole. Thing
- 1:01:29Speaker 7: i'm a. Junkie i'm a junkie, man AND i watched
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- 1:01:33Speaker 7: came to my mind Was murders would have won that.
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- 1:02:51Speaker 2: give you a pick. Today if you, agree you'll text
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: fact to four nine four or five. One if you
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: disagree fiction to four nine four to five to, one fire, Away,
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: Well i'll.
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: Give you the.
- 1:02:59Speaker 13: Pick is a route to be wrong, Situation i'm taking
- 1:03:02Speaker 13: The niners minus two and a half as they host The.
- 1:03:06Speaker 13: Giants Or i'm sorry they traveled to The, giants they
- 1:03:09Speaker 13: are Visiting New. York BUT i just think That scatby Without,
- 1:03:13Speaker 13: scataboo that that team is just too inexperienced and high pressure.
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Situations and The.
- 1:03:19Speaker 13: Niners as we just heard From John, LUND i mean
- 1:03:22Speaker 13: you asked them if they were smoking. Mirrors they're still
- 1:03:24Speaker 13: atop THE Nfc. West SO i don't think that The
- 1:03:30Speaker 13: giants are in any, way shape or form going to
- 1:03:34Speaker 13: keep that a close game at. All SO i think
- 1:03:38Speaker 13: that they're going to get handily. Defeated so a two
- 1:03:40Speaker 13: and a half differential at this, Point i'm taking The
- 1:03:43Speaker 13: niners minus two and a.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: Half all, right do you like to?
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Pick and is she going to get her second win
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: of the. Year, YEAH i think this one's. Good The
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: giants are just not just in terms of THE i
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: play on the. Field it's more just you could tell
- 1:03:56Speaker 4: the team When skataboo went down just like.
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: Deflated, exactly and you have a young quarterback.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: And quarterback not a little.
- 1:04:03Speaker 13: Weapons, yeah, yeah exactly like. That he he was the
- 1:04:06Speaker 13: team was, writing this is a big pick for. You
- 1:04:08Speaker 13: it really, is especially considering last week WHEN i picked
- 1:04:12Speaker 13: against my own.
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: TEAM i was mad that they came back and. Won,
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: YES i was mad.
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: They're not doing anything this. Year not as mad as,
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: me BUT i was mad, too trust.
- 1:04:24Speaker 8: Me oh, right, yeah Because jess And jackson are tied
- 1:04:29Speaker 8: with one each one winning.
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: Got six Though jackson's won and.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: Five he'll, be he'll. Be did he take a pick?
- 1:04:36Speaker 13: Yesterday oh they got a couple off because of early cracking.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: Games, yes Though.
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: Jackson picks. Tomorrow so you got the you got the room.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: For, you just we really need you to.
- 1:04:52Speaker 13: Pass JACK i am confident in this.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: PICK i say that as someone who's just having a
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: tremendous season myself.
- 1:04:59Speaker 10: Eight and.
- 1:05:00Speaker 13: THIRTEEN i think that just speaks to the parody of
- 1:05:02Speaker 13: the league and the unpredictability is what it.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: IS i do think THAT i think we've seen a
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: lot of.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: INJURIES i Think i'm already nine and thirteen after my
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: pick yesterday With Georgia, tech SO.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: I could tell you are confident about that the one. Yesterday,
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: yeah Just Haines king against the Fighting. Chads it's an easy,
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: pick all. Right undefeated one last time in the pick.
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: Chests oh that is the forty nine ers minus two
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: and a.
- 1:05:27Speaker 13: HALF i can root to be, wrong but they are
- 1:05:28Speaker 13: playing The, giants so it's kind of inconsequential to you,
- 1:05:32Speaker 13: know our specific rooting interests when it comes to THE Nfc. West,
- 1:05:36Speaker 13: however we do want to see them go. DOWN i
- 1:05:38Speaker 13: just don't do.
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: It i'm rooting to be. Right, Actually but if it's
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: kind of like a.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: He it's a hedge soft it's a softy like.
- 1:05:47Speaker 13: Hedge it is a little bit of a. Hedge but
- 1:05:50Speaker 13: and you, know my my godfather is a Huge giants.
- 1:05:52Speaker 13: FAN i got a lot Of New york people who
- 1:05:54Speaker 13: Are giants, fans so it's not Like i'm a fan of.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: Theirs, HOWEVER i don't root against, them and.
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: They don't have to blow him. Out just one by field,
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: Goal just a field goals all you gotta.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Do that's, it all, Right so here we, go four,
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: nine four five one, fact if you go With jess
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: forty nine ers minus two and a half against The.
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: Giants if you discrew With, jess don't look at a.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: Record just look at today's. Pick, no don't look at.
- 1:06:13Speaker 13: One OF i was about to tell people because whether
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- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Fiction as soon as you hear it's.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: My, pick your jass when a foul. Stark by the,
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: way it is a cracking Ticket. Tuesday but we already
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: give away both, pairs right have we done? That?
- 1:06:26Speaker 9: Anders?
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, sorry all, right all, Right.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: Softy And dick And jackson will do that again starting
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: at three. O'clock we'll talk To softy. Next why it
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: feels like it's been forever SINCE i seen this guy
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: talk to, him but he's back.
- 1:06:52Speaker 9: Here he.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: IS i talked to you. Yesterday, no but SINCE i
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: seen you in, person one of us has always been.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Gone have you noticed that we really need to see each?
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: Other not?
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: REALLY i don't. Know Find IF i need, You i'll call.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: You you know. What jess won't like this at. All
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: When softy, CALLS i usually, answer, hey look behind, you
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: look behind, you and.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: About a two percent R. O i on Calling ian only.
- 1:07:22Speaker 8: Answers people that he knows can do something for, him and.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: Clearly everything for. Him you're kidding.
- 1:07:29Speaker 14: ME i do remember you for him in a moment of,
- 1:07:36Speaker 14: honesty admitting to me a couple of months ago that
- 1:07:39Speaker 14: both of you were pretty much.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: Worthless oh, yeah that's exactly what that was between. Us
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: that's EXACTLY i think that's what you said About.
- 1:07:46Speaker 8: Jackson that's definitely WHAT i said About you were trying
- 1:07:49Speaker 8: to who's more worthless fan Or. Jackson that's a good.
- 1:07:55Speaker 8: One that's a Good you can only have, one you,
- 1:07:58Speaker 8: know you can only have. ONE i think we have
- 1:08:00Speaker 8: just stumbled upon a fabulous summer bracket For. Friday who
- 1:08:04Speaker 8: is the most worthless person here at kJ.
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: O that sounds like a fun team burning. Experience.
- 1:08:09Speaker 8: Totally, YEAH i THINK i am. FINE i should be
- 1:08:13Speaker 8: a one. Seed you do two hours of. RADIO i
- 1:08:15Speaker 8: Know that's Why i'll start. There i'm a One i'm
- 1:08:17Speaker 8: a one. Seed i'll free body and likes to talk
- 1:08:20Speaker 8: About ian is the hardest working man In seattle. Media
- 1:08:23Speaker 8: but he's not working hard for. Us what are we
- 1:08:24Speaker 8: giving leaves? Here and DOES? Tv he's over At. Rude
- 1:08:28Speaker 8: he's on The Cracking, network he's doing, this he's doing,
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: that and for, us come, on, man two.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Hours i'm a one. Seed i'm Pre do you even
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: shower for the SHOW i did? Today i'm THE TV TV,
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: tv SO i did. Today that's from four weeks. Ago
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty, impressive, changed pretty, impressive then pretty. Impressive
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: this guy all, right not at. All Luckily jackson just
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: walked and he didn't hear what you said about, Him
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: so that's. Good did you watch the entire? Game whoa
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: whoa Whoa? Jackson double?
- 1:08:56Speaker 13: That?
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: YEAH i did watch the. GAME i didn't watch the entire,
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: game watch most of. IT i watched the last.
- 1:08:59Speaker 8: SEAT i turned it on in the bottom of the
- 1:09:02Speaker 8: ninth to see if The dodgers could do something and
- 1:09:04Speaker 8: just kept.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: Watching did you? Ever did you? Ever dose?
- 1:09:07Speaker 8: Off whole thing came.
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: CLOSE i, STARTED i started getting close to dozing, off
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: and THEN i Think Joe davis on one of his
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: missed home run calls it wasn't, run woke me. Up.
- 1:09:16Speaker 8: Unbelievable what in the name Of Dave simms is he
- 1:09:18Speaker 8: doing multiple text threads going the entire? GAME i, mean
- 1:09:22Speaker 8: just you, KNOW i can't sit there and watch the
- 1:09:25Speaker 8: game and not eat all, right, yeah play to. NACHOS
- 1:09:30Speaker 8: i know some?
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: Pasta was it stress?
- 1:09:33Speaker 8: Eating heat it?
- 1:09:34Speaker 7: Up some?
- 1:09:34Speaker 15: Meatballs were you stress? Eating over the Blue jays possibly
- 1:09:38Speaker 15: winning or? WHAT i Just I'm i'm rooting hard for L.
- 1:09:41Speaker 15: A i gotta be honest with, you if you know
- 1:09:42Speaker 15: WHAT i. Realized by the, way you probably already know,
- 1:09:44Speaker 15: this giving your. Background canadians are bad, people, man what
- 1:09:48Speaker 15: are you talking? About they're nice, People, no not inherently,
- 1:09:51Speaker 15: nice lot of.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: THEM i can't even argue Because jack Or andrews went
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: through something AND i understand that doesn't mean, listen you
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: could have just eat gotten kicked in the head By American.
- 1:10:02Speaker 9: No not. RIGHT i gotta be honest with.
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: You many thousands of fan, interactions and of course that's
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: the one that ends up being like.
- 1:10:09Speaker 8: That i'm reconsidering my fan douchebag. RATINGS i might put
- 1:10:14Speaker 8: The Blue jay fans number one Above. Oregon, wow let's,
- 1:10:20Speaker 8: see let's see what happens when the series is. Over, okay,
- 1:10:23Speaker 8: okay BUT i go on last night And i'm Mocking. Toronto,
- 1:10:26Speaker 8: hey it must be terrible to have to wait until
- 1:10:28Speaker 8: two thirty in the morning and just lose a game like.
- 1:10:30Speaker 8: That And i'm getting like a mock to a freaking,
- 1:10:33Speaker 8: flame just wolf like the, cartel The Blue jays, cartel.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: Which is the same, thing same thing you do with
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: The oregon.
- 1:10:39Speaker 8: Fans, no there's a difference, though what The oregon fans
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: at minimum have the balls to tell you who they.
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: Are these people hide behind fake, names keyboard. WARRIORS i,
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: mean it's.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: Unbelievable jackson. Concurs by the, Way.
- 1:10:53Speaker 9: Oh, yeah they're the.
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: Worst i'm the worst. This IF i lived In canada
- 1:10:57Speaker 8: and didn't see the sun for two hundred and eighty,
- 1:11:00Speaker 8: Days i'd be cranky, too.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Buddy all, right we're not going to see it.
- 1:11:02Speaker 9: Either we're.
- 1:11:07Speaker 6: All.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: Right besides telling people About jackson and his, issues what
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: else you?
- 1:11:12Speaker 8: Doing let's See Husky hanks today For John wilner at
- 1:11:15Speaker 8: Five Brian, schmitzerg what kind of mood do you? Think
- 1:11:19Speaker 8: he's ask him how to make penalty? Kicks But, jackson
- 1:11:22Speaker 8: can can you ask him why he left steff in?
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: There?
- 1:11:25Speaker 9: Jackson do that?
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: Off ask him why he Left stephan to face the penalty? Kick,
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: brian Is jackson the hell are you? Thinking jackson go
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: after him? Today?
- 1:11:32Speaker 9: Please? Uh and then we.
- 1:11:34Speaker 8: Got Cracking canadian ends the only seven thirty home game
- 1:11:36Speaker 8: of the. Year by the, way why what are they?
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: Doing why are you looking at? Me do you THINK
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: i want to work later On? NORMAN i don't. Know
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: is this some special hockey. Thing it's they're all thirty
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: two teams are. Playing they're staggering, starts and we got
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: could have been.
- 1:11:49Speaker 8: Worse because let's have a game that starts at ten thirty.
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: On The east.
- 1:11:52Speaker 8: Coast that makes. Sense, well my, hey, hell are you
- 1:11:57Speaker 8: now you're worried about The. Canadians, no not at, ALL
- 1:11:59Speaker 8: i think you. Are i'm not worried about The canadians.
- 1:12:01Speaker 8: Whatsoever it's worried about The Blue jays while you met The. Canadians,
- 1:12:06Speaker 8: canadians not The. Canadians The, Canadians i'm worried about these.
- 1:12:10Speaker 8: People scared a piss out of. Me, Man are you kidding?
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Me oh my.
- 1:12:13Speaker 8: God if there's ever a group of people that can
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: find out WHERE i live and show up at my front.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: Door it's. Them it's a good thing you didn't go
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: to The edmonton game On. Saturday The edmonton game On,
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: saturday there were like a lot Of edmonton slash oiler fans,
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: there AND i thought of you BECAUSE i kind of
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: THOUGHT i might have seen dude.
- 1:12:29Speaker 8: Man, right oh, right, yeah, YEAH i called. Security are
- 1:12:33Speaker 8: oiler fans Also Blue jay? Fans some, are, yeah but
- 1:12:36Speaker 8: not not. All a lot of my friends Of vancouver
- 1:12:38Speaker 8: hate The Blue. Jays they, should they, should and they're Nice.
- 1:12:40Speaker 8: Canadians no they're. Not they're all. Bad, okay all, bad
- 1:12:43Speaker 8: and you're bad because You're. Canadian only see.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable in. Forness this
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: is Paddle day saying so long, everyone