Latest / Community D.C. / Community DC Gaby Jordan Human Better EDU FInal for 7.19.26
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to another edition of Community DC.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm your host Dennis Glasgow. This morning, we welcome to
- 0:08Speaker 1: the program for the first time Gaby Jordan. She is
- 0:11Speaker 1: the founder and president for Human Better Edu while headquartered
- 0:14Speaker 1: in New York City. We'll also have a chance to
- 0:16Speaker 1: speak with DC leadership Casey Seidenberg, who is an executive
- 0:20Speaker 1: coach and program leader here in the DMV. For those
- 0:23Speaker 1: who don't know, Human Better Edu partners with K twelve
- 0:26Speaker 1: schools to provide expert coaching and custom classes. They use
- 0:30Speaker 1: life design frameworks to help students and staff build important,
- 0:33Speaker 1: real world skills to overcome everyday challenges and strengthen their
- 0:37Speaker 1: school community. Here's my conversation with both Gaby and Casey.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Good morning, Gaby,
- 0:43Speaker 1: Good morning Dennis. It is great to have you on
- 0:46Speaker 1: Community DC for the first time. It is such a pleasure.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I'm glad we found each other and after going over
- 0:52Speaker 1: the website and then talking to you a little bit
- 0:54Speaker 1: before this interview finding out what you do. I love
- 0:56Speaker 1: to talk to educators that help and there's so many
- 0:59Speaker 1: holes in our industry now that you can talk about.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Before I do anything about your programs and the cool
- 1:05Speaker 1: things do you do with Human Better DU I'd love
- 1:07Speaker 1: to find out the start, the origin story about this
- 1:11Speaker 1: incredible nonprofit and why you came up with it. It
- 1:14Speaker 1: really is such a cool and mean idea. It seems simple.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not behind the scenes, but what was
- 1:18Speaker 1: the impetus about you starting this?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Well, let's just say, first of all, my background is
- 1:23Speaker 2: I'm a lawyer. I practiced law for fifteen years. I
- 1:25Speaker 2: was a commercial civil litigator in mid ten Manhattan. I
- 1:28Speaker 2: live in New York City and I've been doing this
- 1:31Speaker 2: work with schools students since two thousand and six. And
- 1:35Speaker 2: in two thousand and six, I was the head of
- 1:39Speaker 2: an education division for a consulting company. And the consulting
- 1:43Speaker 2: company there we believed in the importance of education, and
- 1:47Speaker 2: ultimately we created the nonprofit Human Better Edu because I
- 1:52Speaker 2: wanted to create more access. I wanted people, you know.
- 1:56Speaker 2: So we started at MIT in two thousand and six
- 1:58Speaker 2: teaching of course called Designing Your Life. And then I
- 2:00Speaker 2: went to NYU. I created Empowering Women in Science, which
- 2:03Speaker 2: was women men, undergrads, grads, faculty, staff, the whole, and
- 2:07Speaker 2: then Stanford Business School and Stanford Med School, all of that,
- 2:11Speaker 2: and so over the years we've been at eighty different
- 2:14Speaker 2: schools around the world and it's always been the case that, yes,
- 2:17Speaker 2: we wanted the institutions, which are elite institutions, to benefit
- 2:21Speaker 2: from this, but we also want this to be available
- 2:24Speaker 2: to everyone. We have a mission of reaching a million people, right,
- 2:28Speaker 2: We got a little bit to go, but that's what
- 2:30Speaker 2: the mission was. And so making it a nonprofit, which
- 2:33Speaker 2: sometimes is also people will connect more to education if
- 2:36Speaker 2: they think it's a nonprofit was one of the ways
- 2:39Speaker 2: in which to be able to expand what we do,
- 2:42Speaker 2: and so that was the impetus about five years ago.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Well let's do this.
- 2:45Speaker 1: I'd love for everybody that is being introduced to Human
- 2:48Speaker 1: Better Edu just to find out exactly what you do.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So if you were to give a thirty thousand foot
- 2:52Speaker 1: view and tell people, hey, this is exactly who we
- 2:54Speaker 1: are and what will we do, what would you tell them?
- 2:57Speaker 2: We are a nonprofit that serves students, and what we
- 3:01Speaker 2: like to say is we serve students and the ecosystems
- 3:04Speaker 2: that support them with the tools they need to bring agency,
- 3:08Speaker 2: build healthy connections, and cultivate resilience. And we really have
- 3:11Speaker 2: people create their lives or design their lives or architect
- 3:15Speaker 2: their lives in a way that they choose. And we
- 3:19Speaker 2: really do believe that students are the future of our world.
- 3:22Speaker 2: But just as when I do and I do work
- 3:25Speaker 2: in companies globally, just as we believe that you can't
- 3:29Speaker 2: just work with the people who are on the ground
- 3:32Speaker 2: and even the executives that you need to work with leadership,
- 3:35Speaker 2: we also think that you need to work with people
- 3:38Speaker 2: who are parents, educators, administrators, because it's the ecosystems that
- 3:44Speaker 2: support students that enable them to thrive that can make
- 3:47Speaker 2: a difference. And that's why we do work not just
- 3:50Speaker 2: with students, but in all of the arenas that support
- 3:54Speaker 2: students outstanding.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Now, what I'd like to do is, I've got four
- 3:57Speaker 1: different buckets that i want to talk about, and I
- 3:59Speaker 1: know that you can expound on each one a little bit,
- 4:02Speaker 1: just to give people some more context. Exactly as we
- 4:05Speaker 1: dig deeper into what you do and what you offer.
- 4:07Speaker 1: There is life design. There is supporting students, training educators,
- 4:12Speaker 1: and connecting families. Tell me a little bit about life design.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Well, the intention there is that you can actually create
- 4:18Speaker 2: the life you want so each of us in our
- 4:21Speaker 2: lives have at some point created something that we either
- 4:25Speaker 2: didn't think we could do, we didn't know how we
- 4:28Speaker 2: were going to do it, but we were committed. And
- 4:31Speaker 2: so in that context, you really were the architect the
- 4:34Speaker 2: creator of making something happen. So what aeposit relative to
- 4:39Speaker 2: life design is you really can design the life that
- 4:42Speaker 2: you want. It's a question of recognizing your own agency
- 4:46Speaker 2: and recognizing what you want to create, what gets in
- 4:50Speaker 2: your way, and then what there is to do about
- 4:53Speaker 2: it in order to make it happen. And so the
- 4:55Speaker 2: life design programming has to do with making that all happen.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Support students. They're all great categories and they mean a
- 5:02Speaker 1: lot to me, but this one really got my attention
- 5:05Speaker 1: because when it comes to helping middle and high school
- 5:08Speaker 1: students build confidence and strong life skills, we're talking about
- 5:12Speaker 1: the human condition. We all know if we've been in
- 5:15Speaker 1: middle school in high school, it's not easy. It's a
- 5:18Speaker 1: real rough out there. It doesn't matter what era you
- 5:21Speaker 1: came from. I'm Generation X and it was hard on me,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and I know it was hard on my daughter who's
- 5:25Speaker 1: now twenty four. What that said, I'd love that you
- 5:27Speaker 1: offer this tell me a little bit about supporting students.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Absolutely, So, you're right, it is not easy at any age.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And by the way, that is a human phenomena. It
- 5:39Speaker 2: is you know, and each of the generations goes through
- 5:41Speaker 2: their own struggles. But it's also part of evolution, it's
- 5:45Speaker 2: also part of growing up. And so our intention is
- 5:48Speaker 2: really to give students the tools to be able to
- 5:52Speaker 2: live more effectively. So why we how we support students
- 5:58Speaker 2: is by having them recognized, first of all, you're not alone.
- 6:03Speaker 2: That when we work with students in a group, they
- 6:06Speaker 2: get to see that other people have some similar challenges.
- 6:10Speaker 2: They get to see that there are tools in order
- 6:13Speaker 2: to effectuate creating the world that they want to live in.
- 6:17Speaker 2: And by giving them these tools, we elevate their chances
- 6:23Speaker 2: for really creating what they want. And so we do
- 6:27Speaker 2: that on an individual level, but also on a community level.
- 6:31Speaker 2: So when we're working with students in a classroom, what
- 6:34Speaker 2: winds up happening is they lean on the community, They
- 6:37Speaker 2: get supported by community, They challenge the community to really
- 6:41Speaker 2: create effective human beings for themselves and others not standing.
- 6:46Speaker 1: I just love that you tackle that. That's just wonderful.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Tell me about training educators.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Well, one of the reasons that it makes it so
- 6:52Speaker 2: important in our estimation to train educators is because educators
- 6:57Speaker 2: are training the students and there are the academic training
- 7:03Speaker 2: and then there's also pastoral life. And if the educators
- 7:06Speaker 2: themselves don't feel empowered, it's difficult for them to be
- 7:11Speaker 2: able to impart that to students. And so it is important.
- 7:15Speaker 2: You know, educators, teachers, faculty, administrators all very important to
- 7:21Speaker 2: the success of a student, and therefore we want to
- 7:25Speaker 2: train them so that they have the experience so they
- 7:29Speaker 2: can speak to and speak the same language as the
- 7:32Speaker 2: students they're trying to train. And so, for example, there
- 7:35Speaker 2: was one brilliant superintendent in Montana who contacted us and said,
- 7:42Speaker 2: not only do I want to work with the students,
- 7:44Speaker 2: but I went all of the staff. It was a
- 7:46Speaker 2: small school, but all of the staff and the teachers
- 7:49Speaker 2: to go through this because I want the teachers to
- 7:53Speaker 2: have this experience. I want them to know and be
- 7:56Speaker 2: empowered in their lives so that they can also community
- 8:00Speaker 2: kate in that way and support the kids even though
- 8:03Speaker 2: they weren't teaching the class with our content, but at
- 8:07Speaker 2: least they would understand it. And so that's an example
- 8:10Speaker 2: of having the adults who are supporting students actually be
- 8:15Speaker 2: effective in their own.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Lives, outstanding and finally connecting families. It's a big one
- 8:20Speaker 1: tell us about that.
- 8:21Speaker 2: So similarly to the educators, it's also important for parents
- 8:25Speaker 2: to feel that they have agency. And you know, the
- 8:28Speaker 2: kids look up to the parents, and that doesn't mean
- 8:32Speaker 2: being a superstar, that doesn't mean being a hero. That
- 8:37Speaker 2: means being a human being. And so when parents actually
- 8:41Speaker 2: do this work and then can support their kids in
- 8:45Speaker 2: their evolution, kids get to see their parents as a
- 8:49Speaker 2: human being. Parents get empowered, they start to see where
- 8:54Speaker 2: they can be more effective in their lives so that
- 8:56Speaker 2: they can also then support their students in that. So
- 9:01Speaker 2: they get to not just be be on a pedestal,
- 9:05Speaker 2: if you will, And so being able to have their
- 9:10Speaker 2: humanity and impart that to students supports the students in
- 9:16Speaker 2: their evolution. They get to see their parents are human beings, right,
- 9:20Speaker 2: And so there's a beautiful synergy that works when kids
- 9:25Speaker 2: and parents are both involved.
- 9:26Speaker 1: In this conversation, I want to pivot over to your
- 9:29Speaker 1: team and we're specifically going to talk to one member
- 9:31Speaker 1: who's a program leader and executive life coach in the
- 9:34Speaker 1: DMV is Casey. We're going to chat with her about
- 9:37Speaker 1: what she does here locally. But I know you're proud
- 9:39Speaker 1: of all your teammates, but we're going to spotlight her.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about Casey before we chat
- 9:43Speaker 1: with her.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Well, I am so fortunate that Casey is part of
- 9:47Speaker 2: our team. I could just cry. You know, we've worked
- 9:52Speaker 2: together for a number of years, even before the nonprofit,
- 9:55Speaker 2: and she has got an incredible heart, and I and
- 9:59Speaker 2: the dm frankly is fortunate that she is in the
- 10:02Speaker 2: area and could do things in person. Yes, we do
- 10:04Speaker 2: things remotely as well, but she's been able to support
- 10:07Speaker 2: students and educators as they are evolving their life and
- 10:15Speaker 2: so she herself, you know, as a parent. She actually
- 10:18Speaker 2: came to coaching because she was dealing with a challenge
- 10:22Speaker 2: to situation with a couple of her kids, and then
- 10:27Speaker 2: she was empowered of that God. It's so inspired that
- 10:29Speaker 2: she decided to become a coach. So she's been around
- 10:32Speaker 2: the work that we've done for many years and brings
- 10:35Speaker 2: a particular flavor to it. I love the story of
- 10:39Speaker 2: her working with a group of girls, which was initially
- 10:43Speaker 2: intended to be for a six week period, but people
- 10:46Speaker 2: kept wanting more and more and more, and then it
- 10:48Speaker 2: became three years that she worked with them, and that
- 10:52Speaker 2: is a tribute to both who she is and the
- 10:54Speaker 2: community that she created around.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I love that and I love her passion that you're
- 11:00Speaker 1: speaking of when we're in talk to you right now.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Casey.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Good morning, Casey, Good morning, Dennis. It's great to.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Talk to you. Can you give us an overview, because
- 11:08Speaker 1: I know you've been doing this for about five six years, oough,
- 11:10Speaker 1: Can you give us an overview about exactly what you do.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question.
- 11:15Speaker 4: So at our core, Human Better as a nonprofit, our
- 11:19Speaker 4: mission is to equip students and then all of the
- 11:22Speaker 4: adults around them, so parents, administrators, educators, with the tools
- 11:27Speaker 4: to build what we call personal agency, so really that
- 11:30Speaker 4: feeling that you can take charge of your life, healthy relationships,
- 11:33Speaker 4: and resilience. And so we always say that one of
- 11:38Speaker 4: the definitions of mental health for these kids is having
- 11:40Speaker 4: the tools to deal with whatever is handed to you.
- 11:44Speaker 4: And so what we do is teach those tools. And
- 11:46Speaker 4: so we have an actual curriculum that we go into
- 11:49Speaker 4: actually starting at kindergarten all the way through college and
- 11:52Speaker 4: postgrad and the curriculum is actually the same for all
- 11:55Speaker 4: the grade levels, just adjusted a little with language for
- 11:58Speaker 4: kindergarteners versus fifth grader versus high schools. But we go
- 12:02Speaker 4: in and we coach students of all ages, teach them
- 12:04Speaker 4: those tools, and then also work with the adults around them.
- 12:08Speaker 1: When you get to talk to parents and the children
- 12:11Speaker 1: and the educators and do your research, I imagine there's
- 12:14Speaker 1: a lot of fluidity that goes on with your curriculum
- 12:17Speaker 1: because one size doesn't fit all. I think we can
- 12:18Speaker 1: agree with that. So how does that work when it
- 12:20Speaker 1: comes to your programs that you offer and staying up
- 12:23Speaker 1: with the times?
- 12:24Speaker 4: So are fundamental The core of our program is actually
- 12:27Speaker 4: what we call the core Human Behavior.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Model, and it's based on a lot.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Of psychology and CBT and all kinds of other things,
- 12:34Speaker 4: but it's really our magic of blending all of those
- 12:38Speaker 4: and that doesn't change. So that doesn't change if we're
- 12:40Speaker 4: working with a CEO or a dean of students a
- 12:43Speaker 4: university or a kindergartener. And what it is is it
- 12:46Speaker 4: helps anybody understand the architecture of who they are. So
- 12:50Speaker 4: what's actually driving their thoughts, their feelings, their actions, their results.
- 12:55Speaker 4: And so once a kid understands that or an adult
- 12:58Speaker 4: understands that, they can still kind of reacting to life
- 13:02Speaker 4: and start designing it from a place of the driver's seat.
- 13:06Speaker 3: And so that is really the core of what we do.
- 13:09Speaker 4: And again it's called a core human behavior model, so
- 13:12Speaker 4: that doesn't change. But yes, have we adjusted curriculum as
- 13:16Speaker 4: social media has taken over and they're different challenges for
- 13:18Speaker 4: different age groups. Or we actually did a lot surrounding.
- 13:22Speaker 3: COVID when that happened.
- 13:24Speaker 4: So yes, we adjust things, but the core of what
- 13:27Speaker 4: we do is actually through this model of understanding how
- 13:30Speaker 4: we defaultly behave as humans.
- 13:33Speaker 1: I like to follow up on that when it comes
- 13:35Speaker 1: to the parents and the children and the educators, how
- 13:37Speaker 1: do you get the feedback and what do you do
- 13:39Speaker 1: with it.
- 13:40Speaker 4: So at this point, we've reached over twelve thousand participants
- 13:43Speaker 4: as a nonprofit. We've been in twenty states, five countries.
- 13:47Speaker 4: I think we've trained about nineteen hundred educators in our
- 13:51Speaker 4: asset based social emotional curriculum, and so we have had
- 13:55Speaker 4: a lot of people fill out our surveys and so
- 13:57Speaker 4: we do a pre survey before every program, whether we're
- 14:00Speaker 4: coaching parents or kindergarteners, and we do a post survey
- 14:04Speaker 4: and what we see is one hundred percent of our
- 14:08Speaker 4: participants show some increase in enhance mental well being. So
- 14:13Speaker 4: you know, whether that's stronger relationships, a real sense of belonging,
- 14:18Speaker 4: more agency in their lives, a better understanding of how
- 14:20Speaker 4: they exist.
- 14:22Speaker 3: In the world, and how they react.
- 14:23Speaker 4: We are getting in, We are getting survey results in
- 14:27Speaker 4: the moment, and so we do react from those. We
- 14:29Speaker 4: also have questions about our curriculum and what it felt
- 14:32Speaker 4: like and our teachers and you know, how they felt
- 14:36Speaker 4: the class gelled and whatnot, and so we are always adjusting.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Is there something that kind of touched you, whether it
- 14:42Speaker 1: was with a child, an educator, a family, or something
- 14:45Speaker 1: that you guys really made a difference and you said,
- 14:47Speaker 1: you know what, we're doing some good work here today.
- 14:49Speaker 1: This is why we get up every day. Can you
- 14:51Speaker 1: maybe share one story with.
- 14:52Speaker 4: Us in COVID, I actually taught on Zoom to a
- 14:56Speaker 4: high school class. They were freshmen in high school in
- 14:58Speaker 4: rural Pennsylvania, and there was a boy who was very quiet.
- 15:01Speaker 4: The first couple classes, he didn't say anything, and we
- 15:05Speaker 4: were talking maybe on the fourth class about our beliefs
- 15:08Speaker 4: and how our beliefs about ourselves can really drive how
- 15:11Speaker 4: we behave in the world. And he spoke up for
- 15:14Speaker 4: the first time and he said, I believe that I'm
- 15:17Speaker 4: going to be just like my father who's in jail.
- 15:20Speaker 3: And I said, why do you believe that?
- 15:21Speaker 2: Word?
- 15:21Speaker 4: Do you think that came from? And he said, because
- 15:22Speaker 4: my mother tells me that all the time. And we
- 15:25Speaker 4: broke that down and he started to collect evidence throughout
- 15:29Speaker 4: the rest of our course, which was semester long, as
- 15:32Speaker 4: to why he is not his father and how, and
- 15:35Speaker 4: he made promises that he was going to follow through
- 15:39Speaker 4: on a weekly basis of taking actions that were not
- 15:42Speaker 4: like his father, but actually the way that the human
- 15:44Speaker 4: that he wanted to be.
- 15:45Speaker 3: In the world.
- 15:46Speaker 4: And he took those actions week after week, and by
- 15:48Speaker 4: the end of the semester, he had busted holes in
- 15:50Speaker 4: that belief and he didn't believe it anymore.
- 15:52Speaker 1: That's huge, that's huge.
- 15:54Speaker 2: It was huge.
- 15:55Speaker 3: It was huge.
- 15:56Speaker 4: This was years ago and it still kind of brings
- 15:58Speaker 4: me to tears.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have one more story you said you
- 16:01Speaker 1: wanted to share?
- 16:02Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did so over a three year period,
- 16:06Speaker 4: I coached about twenty middle school girls in the DMV
- 16:10Speaker 4: and we were in person every Thursday. They were in
- 16:14Speaker 4: five different friend groups, very different groups of girls, and
- 16:20Speaker 4: they came in, you know, a little bit closed minded,
- 16:24Speaker 4: not sure who they were, a little judgmental or skeptical
- 16:27Speaker 4: of everybody in the room, not sure how this was
- 16:29Speaker 4: going to work. And through the course of three years
- 16:33Speaker 4: they got so vulnerable. So honest, we dealt with how
- 16:37Speaker 4: to handle friendships, how to have hard conversations, how to
- 16:40Speaker 4: bounce back from a bad grade, what if you get,
- 16:43Speaker 4: you know, hurt by someone, how do you communicate, how
- 16:46Speaker 4: do you go after your dreams? All of these things,
- 16:48Speaker 4: and at the end, they all decided that they could
- 16:51Speaker 4: walk into their school and they could go sit at
- 16:53Speaker 4: any lunch table and any one of those young women
- 16:56Speaker 4: would welcome them. And to me, that just it just
- 17:00Speaker 4: embodies the community that we're trying to create. So our
- 17:03Speaker 4: classes are not just teaching those skills, but everyone who's
- 17:07Speaker 4: in a class is getting vulnerable about their inner dialogue
- 17:10Speaker 4: and their interfears, and that creates a unity in a
- 17:13Speaker 4: classroom and a belonging that I think.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Is hard to create. It with a lot of social
- 17:19Speaker 3: emotional curriculum.
- 17:21Speaker 2: But we're able to do that.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you shared that. I have a twenty
- 17:23Speaker 1: four year old daughter, so that means I went through
- 17:25Speaker 1: social media. What it's like to have a young woman
- 17:28Speaker 1: and go through today's climate. It's hard enough as it
- 17:31Speaker 1: is just to be a normal human being out there,
- 17:33Speaker 1: but when you add female social media, the dynamics of
- 17:36Speaker 1: young women and everything else. Not that it's not hard
- 17:39Speaker 1: for boys out there, but that's what I lived, and
- 17:42Speaker 1: that you gained their trust in that situation and handed
- 17:45Speaker 1: down life lessons fulfilling for you and your team.
- 17:48Speaker 4: We touched on everything from body image because that's a
- 17:51Speaker 4: big thing with social emails media right now, to friendships,
- 17:55Speaker 4: to academics, to our communication and relationships. So it is
- 17:58Speaker 4: it's very meaningful.
- 18:00Speaker 3: I love this work so.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Much, Danny Well, Casey, thanks for joining us a little
- 18:03Speaker 1: bit on community DC continue success. I really appreciate your
- 18:06Speaker 1: valuable time.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Dennis Gabe, it.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Was really wonderful to talk to Casey. I mean, you
- 18:12Speaker 1: build it up. She's passionate, she knows what she's doing,
- 18:15Speaker 1: she loves what she's doing, and it really is truly incredible.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit. I know there's
- 18:19Speaker 1: other people on your team, and maybe we can't spilight everybody.
- 18:22Speaker 1: But it's a small team, but it's a powerhouse team.
- 18:25Speaker 1: They really know what they're doing. Life coaches, they're instructors.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about the rest
- 18:30Speaker 1: of the team if he can, it's for a few moments.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, you know. One of the things I will
- 18:35Speaker 2: say is that it's a small but mighty team, but
- 18:40Speaker 2: everybody brings a passion to it, and everybody brings a
- 18:44Speaker 2: commitment to education. And then one of the things I
- 18:46Speaker 2: will also say, similar to me, similar to Casey, similar
- 18:50Speaker 2: to others on the team, we work in both the
- 18:53Speaker 2: corporate world and the education world. And why I think
- 18:57Speaker 2: that is useful is because when you're in the education world,
- 19:02Speaker 2: it makes it's powerful for students and educators to know
- 19:07Speaker 2: this isn't just something in academics, This isn't just something
- 19:10Speaker 2: that happens in universities or schools. We use this very
- 19:14Speaker 2: same frame this very same frameworks in the corporate world.
- 19:19Speaker 2: So it's used in businesses to have businesses be effective
- 19:22Speaker 2: and powerful in the way that they work and the
- 19:24Speaker 2: communities they create, and so One of the things about
- 19:28Speaker 2: many of our coaches is that we work in both worlds,
- 19:31Speaker 2: and then likewise, in the business world, it's useful to
- 19:35Speaker 2: know that this is something which is actually taught in
- 19:38Speaker 2: academic institutions, so as there is a symbiosis, if you will,
- 19:43Speaker 2: in the two different worlds. And then a number of
- 19:46Speaker 2: my team work in both of those worlds, and so
- 19:49Speaker 2: they have that perspective, so they have the real life
- 19:51Speaker 2: experience and they have the experience of academia. And then
- 19:56Speaker 2: we have a couple of people in the DMV who
- 19:58Speaker 2: are currently in training, one of whom is a lawyer
- 20:01Speaker 2: and she's also teaches at you know, at a law school,
- 20:06Speaker 2: so there is that dimension that she brings. And then
- 20:10Speaker 2: people come from all different walks of life. We have educators,
- 20:13Speaker 2: we have people who've been in the jewelry business. We've
- 20:15Speaker 2: have people who have been in marketing, and so one
- 20:18Speaker 2: of the really valuable things about that is they bring
- 20:21Speaker 2: that experience to the work that they do with individuals
- 20:25Speaker 2: and groups and teams.
- 20:26Speaker 1: You know, I love that you do that, and if
- 20:29Speaker 1: I could intimate to what you're saying, kind of read
- 20:31Speaker 1: between the lines. And I've always been a big proponent
- 20:33Speaker 1: of this, especially in my industry. You know, I could
- 20:36Speaker 1: hire a radio person to do a radio job, but
- 20:39Speaker 1: sometimes when you hire somebody outside of your industry with
- 20:42Speaker 1: a fresh set of eyes from a different point of view,
- 20:45Speaker 1: it's actually pretty helpful. And I imagine you live that
- 20:47Speaker 1: every day with all the different types of people that
- 20:49Speaker 1: you have on your staff.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the thing, you know, the thing about coaching
- 20:55Speaker 2: is you need to be open, and so we've been
- 20:57Speaker 2: developing our frameworks for a number of you and come
- 21:01Speaker 2: from various different perspectives, all which illuminate what we're doing.
- 21:05Speaker 2: And to that end, it also makes sense that people
- 21:08Speaker 2: have those different experiences which they bring to the work
- 21:11Speaker 2: that they're doing with students.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. And this is a great segue because on
- 21:15Speaker 1: your website it's featured very nicely how to become a coach?
- 21:18Speaker 1: Can you go into that a little bit more?
- 21:20Speaker 2: Sure? We have a training program where people who get
- 21:24Speaker 2: inspired by the work we do, either want to make
- 21:26Speaker 2: a difference in education or don't even know quite what
- 21:30Speaker 2: they're ultimately intending to do but want to elevate their
- 21:33Speaker 2: own life, they can actually participate and get trained and
- 21:37Speaker 2: be certified as a human Better Edu coach, and so
- 21:40Speaker 2: we have a process where we have a trainer, there's
- 21:43Speaker 2: group calls, there's individual one on one coaching that happens
- 21:49Speaker 2: for them. But the thing about why it's so great
- 21:52Speaker 2: and why people love the training program is it's not
- 21:55Speaker 2: just about learning to deliver something. It's about really elevating
- 22:00Speaker 2: your own life. We really do believe in walking the talk,
- 22:04Speaker 2: and so people come into the training program and whether
- 22:07Speaker 2: or not they wind up teaching, they wind up being
- 22:10Speaker 2: in such a different place when they begin than when
- 22:13Speaker 2: they complete, because they have actually applied the frameworks to
- 22:17Speaker 2: their own life so they can really live the life
- 22:20Speaker 2: they want to be living.
- 22:22Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about donations and
- 22:24Speaker 1: being a part of Human Better Edu, because that's a
- 22:27Speaker 1: big part. When you're nonprofit, you need money and to
- 22:29Speaker 1: keep it going. Are you how are you funded?
- 22:33Speaker 2: We are funded both. We do both fee for services work,
- 22:36Speaker 2: but we also do work we apply for we get grants.
- 22:39Speaker 2: We also have individual donations and we've been very lucky.
- 22:43Speaker 2: You know, one of our main donors is from Microsoft
- 22:46Speaker 2: and has been incredibly generous. And then as a result
- 22:50Speaker 2: of that, and there may be other of your listeners
- 22:52Speaker 2: who are there who wind up donating and then their
- 22:55Speaker 2: companies have matching funds, and it makes a tremendous difference,
- 22:58Speaker 2: because you know, we are a small all nonprofit and
- 23:01Speaker 2: we do need funds in order to continue to run
- 23:03Speaker 2: and do the good work that we're doing.
- 23:05Speaker 1: One of the nice things that you do is that,
- 23:07Speaker 1: of course you can make a one time donation. We'll
- 23:09Speaker 1: give the website at the end of this interview, but
- 23:11Speaker 1: you can also sponsor a K twelve classroom two and
- 23:16Speaker 1: the dream Builders and everything. I love that you have
- 23:18Speaker 1: all these different kind of buckets, say you can put
- 23:20Speaker 1: your money into two different things. I think it's pretty cool.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We do too well.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Listen, I want to talk about the state of education.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Education has been in the news the last year and
- 23:31Speaker 1: a half, obviously for better or worse. With that said,
- 23:35Speaker 1: you're doing your work, you're independent about whatever else is
- 23:38Speaker 1: going on out there. But I want to ask you
- 23:39Speaker 1: about the state of education, of working with the educators
- 23:43Speaker 1: and the parents and the kids out there, and also
- 23:46Speaker 1: not what's happening today, but also because I know you're
- 23:48Speaker 1: looking down the road too, about how the state of
- 23:50Speaker 1: education is doing right now and what you see happening
- 23:52Speaker 1: down the road for its specifically what you and your
- 23:54Speaker 1: team do.
- 23:55Speaker 2: One of the things that is important to us is
- 23:59Speaker 2: that we equip people with skills. Those skills build resilience,
- 24:05Speaker 2: those skills build the opportunity for connection. They are far
- 24:09Speaker 2: beyond what happens in academia. Academia has its place, but
- 24:14Speaker 2: the state of education is changing. People come and there's
- 24:19Speaker 2: in some instances declining enrollment in colleges. You're not going
- 24:23Speaker 2: to decline in being a human being unless you don't
- 24:26Speaker 2: exist anymore. So it's something that we think is critically
- 24:30Speaker 2: important to be able to have these skills to navigate
- 24:34Speaker 2: the challenges which arise. Now there's a lot of education
- 24:37Speaker 2: that's been defunded. There's there a challenges for teachers. I
- 24:43Speaker 2: do think that teachers aren't sufficiently appreciated for the work
- 24:46Speaker 2: they do. My God, during COVID that it was teachers
- 24:51Speaker 2: were on the front lines. It's not like kids stop growing,
- 24:55Speaker 2: Oh no, they didn't. But then teachers had to deal
- 24:58Speaker 2: with challenges that they had had before. And actually during COVID,
- 25:02Speaker 2: we actually created an educator cohort where we had a
- 25:08Speaker 2: six week program where we had educators from all over
- 25:11Speaker 2: the country come together and get supported through our programming.
- 25:15Speaker 2: And we did this as a free program because we
- 25:18Speaker 2: wanted educators to be supported, and they were so appreciative
- 25:24Speaker 2: of the opportunity have a place where they could talk
- 25:28Speaker 2: about their own concerns, where they could dream, where they could,
- 25:32Speaker 2: you know, dump their negative inner dialog. Right by the way,
- 25:36Speaker 2: we all have negative inner dialogue. We do. It doesn't
- 25:39Speaker 2: mean anything with their studies that show that eighty percent
- 25:42Speaker 2: of our thinking is negative. Okay, So it's not it's
- 25:45Speaker 2: not no one should worry because they have a lot
- 25:48Speaker 2: of negative inner dialogue. Everybody's saved, absolutely, yes, okay. And
- 25:52Speaker 2: so then the importance is what do you do with that?
- 25:55Speaker 2: And so, as I said, this work that we're doing
- 25:59Speaker 2: is abouticular skills and educators we, as I said, were
- 26:03Speaker 2: being introduced to that. There's a very funny story, Sorr.
- 26:06Speaker 2: I digress a little bit, but we were working with
- 26:10Speaker 2: the group of educators and then what she happened to
- 26:13Speaker 2: have been a friend of mine, but she was in
- 26:15Speaker 2: the Midwest. Her daughter overheard the work that she was
- 26:18Speaker 2: doing on negative inner dialogue in the class. She wasn't
- 26:22Speaker 2: even in the room. She could just hear the conversation
- 26:25Speaker 2: and she was in sixth grade and she came and
- 26:27Speaker 2: she said, I want to have that in my school.
- 26:30Speaker 2: And as a result of that, we wound up teaching fourth, fifth, seventh,
- 26:35Speaker 2: and eighth graders in her school because this little girl
- 26:39Speaker 2: heard what her mother was engaged in and then wanted
- 26:42Speaker 2: to bring it to her school. So that's the type
- 26:45Speaker 2: of work that is. There's so many stories about the
- 26:49Speaker 2: levels of inspiration. I mean, there was a six year
- 26:53Speaker 2: old who where we were working individually, and this was
- 26:55Speaker 2: when we were doing younger kids as well, and she
- 26:58Speaker 2: came to her parents and she said, Okay, this is
- 27:02Speaker 2: my book. You know, I want to watch TV as
- 27:03Speaker 2: much as I want. She said, that's my tantrum toddler voice,
- 27:07Speaker 2: and I think this is your mouth voice. Her parents
- 27:11Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, we've created a monster. But
- 27:13Speaker 2: the point is this type of education there's a need
- 27:17Speaker 2: for it, and there's a need for it prospectively for
- 27:20Speaker 2: people to deal with all of the challenges they have
- 27:22Speaker 2: coming up no matter where we are in the world,
- 27:25Speaker 2: and the new form that education takes.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Agreed and well said, and as a parent of now
- 27:31Speaker 1: a twenty four year old, I can guarantee everybody out there.
- 27:34Speaker 1: If your kid is young and they can hear you
- 27:38Speaker 1: and they watch you, they do it all the time, folks,
- 27:40Speaker 1: So you got to you got to be on as
- 27:42Speaker 1: a parent all the time. I do want to do this, Gaby.
- 27:44Speaker 1: We only have a few minutes left, and I'd like
- 27:46Speaker 1: to get some final thoughts from you. I'd like to
- 27:48Speaker 1: give the website to everybody to make sure they check
- 27:50Speaker 1: it out. A gorgeous website, easy to navigate, folks. It's
- 27:53Speaker 1: just beautiful what Gaby and her team have done to
- 27:55Speaker 1: put this together so you can easily navigate what Human
- 27:57Speaker 1: Better e to you. But let's just get some fun
- 28:00Speaker 1: thoughts from you. Gave me the floor of yours.
- 28:02Speaker 2: First of all, thank you for the opportunity. I really
- 28:05Speaker 2: am inspired by the opportunities that lay ahead. Human Better
- 28:10Speaker 2: EEDU is really on a mission to impact a million
- 28:16Speaker 2: people in the next five years. We've got a ways
- 28:19Speaker 2: to go, but that's you know, too bad, It's all good.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I thank you, and I really I invite people to
- 28:28Speaker 2: come play with us. I invite people to see what
- 28:31Speaker 2: inspires you, either about education or about the people that
- 28:34Speaker 2: you want to support, or about educators' ecosystems. And to
- 28:41Speaker 2: complay in a world where we are continuing to elevate
- 28:46Speaker 2: what's possible for humanity and are committed to doing that. Well.
- 28:50Speaker 3: I think that is well said.
- 28:51Speaker 1: And one of my favorite things when I found out
- 28:54Speaker 1: about you and your team and what you do is
- 28:56Speaker 1: that unfortunately the current school system, no matter what level,
- 29:00Speaker 1: can only offer so much because of time and finances,
- 29:04Speaker 1: and you fill in a really big gap there with
- 29:06Speaker 1: your team, which I think is huge. Let's give the
- 29:08Speaker 1: website to everybody so they can find out more about you,
- 29:10Speaker 1: your team and all the cool things that you do.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Great. It is human Better edu dot org. So www.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Humanbetteredu dot org.
- 29:22Speaker 1: And there's a big fat blue donate button on the
- 29:25Speaker 1: top right hand corner that you can't miss, and you
- 29:27Speaker 1: should click it. There's many ways to give out there
- 29:29Speaker 1: and make a donation now, Gaby, thank you so much.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Once again, I said this at the top. I'm glad
- 29:33Speaker 1: I found you. I think whether it's here locally in
- 29:36Speaker 1: the DMV or what you're doing in New York City
- 29:38Speaker 1: or around the nation with your team, it's so cool
- 29:41Speaker 1: and I think you're going to make your goal someday.
- 29:43Speaker 1: I think it's a lovely goal to have and attainable.
- 29:46Speaker 1: So thank you for what you do. I want to
- 29:48Speaker 1: stay in touch with you and catch up with you
- 29:50Speaker 1: down the road, but we really appreciate you and caseing
- 29:53Speaker 1: everybody else in your team and be able to feature
- 29:55Speaker 1: you on Community DC.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much, Jenna. It's
- 29:59Speaker 2: a pleasure to be here.