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Ian Furness 10/21 H2: Are we overblowing the Sonics hype? Talking CFB with Stewart Mandel and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandell, weekly visit. All things college football, including the
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  Speaker 2: 2014 playoff. Coming up at 120.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited about it. Not the Stuart Mandell visit,
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  Speaker 3: the 2014 playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Just go to 16. Just go to 16 and play
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  Speaker 2: eight home games.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why you would immediately double it.
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  Speaker 4: Greed?
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  Speaker 2: But it's not even greed for the teams. The payout
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  Speaker 2: for the teams isn't even that extensive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The new payout isn't. So I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit like March Madness where they expanded
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  Speaker 2: that this year. They never take into consideration what the
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  Speaker 2: majority of the fans. I think Stuart wrote this, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's on his podcast, and they did an extensive
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  Speaker 2: survey to The Athletic, and it's like 86%. of college
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  Speaker 2: fans say keep it at 12 or go to 16.
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  Speaker 2: And they go to 24. But most want to keep
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  Speaker 2: it at 12. And it's, boy, when they did the
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  Speaker 2: same thing the last couple years, because it took a
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  Speaker 2: couple years to get the basketball tournament expanded, it was
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  Speaker 2: like nobody wanted to see that happen. And college basketball,
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  Speaker 2: if it's possible, college basketball might be dumber than college football.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember having this conversation with Gary Parrish last year.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he gets it a little bit, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's so immersed in the sport, it's his
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  Speaker 2: whole world, right? And I said, you know, Gary, one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that makes March Madness, the thing that
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  Speaker 2: makes March Madness, March Madness are the brackets. It's a
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  Speaker 2: billion-dollar thing. Like, just Google it. Like, there's a billion
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  Speaker 2: dollars wagered on brackets every year. A perfect, nice, neat,
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  Speaker 2: little 64-team bracket. Yeah, I went to 68, but you
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  Speaker 2: made it to 64. I assume now that most people's
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  Speaker 2: brackets will start Thursday, right? And you'll wait until those
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  Speaker 2: first games are over. But, like, why? Why break something
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  Speaker 2: when it's not broken? And they just don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: And no fan wanted to see basketball tournament expanded. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think coaches do because, hey, I made the tournament. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you were number 72, and you lost the first
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  Speaker 2: round to Moorhead State, and you're from the Big Ten. Like,
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  Speaker 2: did that really help you? Did you end up having
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  Speaker 2: job security? Because probably not. Probably not. Yeah. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into all that stuff with Stuart Mandel coming up
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  Speaker 2: here at 120 today. It's the one thing with college football,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think any of us like the old, old system,
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  Speaker 2: which is let's just vote on it because listen to
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  Speaker 2: the station, and at some point Hugh or Softie or
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  Speaker 2: someone will bring up 1984 and BYU, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 2: all those things, share title with Miami. Nobody liked that,
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  Speaker 2: the too subjective nature of let's vote on something, right?
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  Speaker 2: The BCS with two teams, no, that's just not enough.
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  Speaker 2: The four-team playoff, again, not enough.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: This has really seemed to work quite well the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years. It seemed to work quite well. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into that with Stu. Okay. So the whole
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  Speaker 2: NBA stuff yesterday, we played this down with Pat McAfee.
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  Speaker 2: I know Softy did too with Adam Silver, and he
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  Speaker 2: said a few years out and all those things. So
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing my best due diligence, Ashley, to try
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  Speaker 2: to kind of check around on it. There's a couple
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  Speaker 2: things I'm curious about, and I've got a couple answers.
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  Speaker 2: But the bigger answer is this, 49451 on the Tacoma
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  Speaker 2: Dutch text line. I was telling somebody today that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of involved with the whole process. I said, I wonder,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know, but I wonder out loud if
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  Speaker 2: we're over-emphasizing, over-selling, or maybe over- Maybe the actual excitement
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  Speaker 2: and interest in the Sonics and the NBA isn't quite
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  Speaker 2: what we think on this radio station and sports media.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I still think it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing that happens and the biggest sports story
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  Speaker 2: that we have outside of winning a Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 2: even maybe more so than that when they come back.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that truly is the case. But I just.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. The more this process goes down the
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  Speaker 2: road and you hear guys, you hear Adam Silver, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at some point, at some point, it's just
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  Speaker 2: people are fed up. Now, the couple things that popped
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  Speaker 2: out that I kind of wanted to get answers to.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is, like we've heard the little rumors, right,
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  Speaker 2: that if whoever doesn't get Vegas, they would be interested
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle. That would maybe bump the price up with
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  Speaker 2: some competition. My understanding is that if that is the case,
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  Speaker 2: it would be not that lead investors, because if you
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  Speaker 2: look at all the lead investors, the three main people
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  Speaker 2: in Vegas that are trying to, the three main groups,
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  Speaker 2: they all have ties to Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: None of them are, like, there's a reason they want Vegas, right? Like,
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  Speaker 2: they're Vegas people in some way, shape, or form.
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  Speaker 5: Which is what we should hope for any owners of
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  Speaker 5: the Sonics, too. A tie, or some sort of tie
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  Speaker 5: to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: And stand by for that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: The.
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  Speaker 2: There could now. There might be minority investors that would
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  Speaker 2: want to get involved, and maybe they would be embraced.
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  Speaker 2: But then does that push the price tag up even more,
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  Speaker 2: which the NBA would like, but would your ownership group
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  Speaker 2: like that?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because at some point, you're passing the cost back onto
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  Speaker 2: the consumer. The NBA and the NHL, and to a
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  Speaker 2: certain extent Major League Baseball, are all still somewhat local
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  Speaker 2: ad revenue and ticket-dependent organizations. The NFL is not.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL could play in empty stadiums, which they did
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  Speaker 2: one year. They're still making money. Why? Because of their
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  Speaker 2: TV contract. They're just a different animal. They're a different beast.
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  Speaker 2: They put them on a different plan and all that.
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  Speaker 2: My bigger concern with all this stuff is a professional
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  Speaker 2: sports team, and Ashley, just tell me this. This may
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  Speaker 2: not make sense. You may go, Ian, you're full of it.
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  Speaker 2: It makes no sense. But a professional sports team is still–
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  Speaker 2: a big part of your community. It's a community asset. Now,
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  Speaker 2: not all owners believe that. We know that all too
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  Speaker 2: well here. All too well. But it's a community asset.
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  Speaker 2: What would worry me is if you have somebody that
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  Speaker 2: does come in and say, I'm going to spend $ 10 billion.
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  Speaker 2: I really have no ties to the community. I really
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  Speaker 2: don't care about the community, the fan base, the people here.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't really care what I'm charging them. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care what I'm treating them, what I'm doing to
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  Speaker 2: treat them, how they treat them. I don't even care
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  Speaker 2: if I invest in the product. It's an investment for me.
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  Speaker 2: And what's that investment? Well, there's no sports team that devalues.
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  Speaker 2: They all appreciate value, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things going on here, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of tentacles here. The easiest thing is whatever the
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  Speaker 2: agreed upon price is with the current group, which now
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  Speaker 2: includes Melinda French Gates, and she's got plenty of money.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever that includes, just that's what it needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the arena. You've got the revenue streams. You've
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  Speaker 2: got the– listen. Listen. You can complain about the on-ice
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  Speaker 2: product all you want, and I won't argue much back
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  Speaker 2: with you until proven otherwise. But whether it's Memorial Stadium,
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  Speaker 2: new ice rinks specifically for the female team that they
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  Speaker 2: don't even own in Kirkland, massive amounts of sports courts
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  Speaker 2: and everything else, the community involvement, the One Roof Foundation group,
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff that they do, they're invested in the community.
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  Speaker 2: Not everybody is. What terrifies me is you have somebody
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  Speaker 2: that buys a team, for more than it's worth, and
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  Speaker 2: really all it's worth, if we're looking at current values,
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  Speaker 2: is probably like $ 3 or $ 4 billion. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: $ 6 or $ 7, based on recent sales of the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to be paying more than the
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  Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, a team that's got legacy, history, championships, multiple,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. I can go on, and you're paying more
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  Speaker 2: for that. I'm worried that you are paying for something,
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  Speaker 2: or you would have somebody come in here paying for
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  Speaker 2: something like Tom Dundon did in Portland. That all he did,
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  Speaker 2: that's an investment for him. He has no ties to
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  Speaker 2: the city of Portland. He has no care about the
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  Speaker 2: city of Portland. He has nobody to answer to in
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  Speaker 2: the city of Portland.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: That's my concern. That's my concern. As well as, have
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  Speaker 2: we overvalued what the enthusiasm for the league is? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: 49451.
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  Speaker 4: Ash?
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  Speaker 3: I think we, I mean, I do think we've overvalued it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: in general. All sports teams. I mean, the idea that
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, you know, are going for.
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  Speaker 2: What I mean by overvalued, overvalued the enthusiasm that people
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  Speaker 2: have for it to come back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, and I understand that, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 5: in terms of like you look at the monetary value,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that is a direct result of how
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  Speaker 5: much we think that everybody is into it, right?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And eventually it's going.
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  Speaker 5: To be something like we talk about with college football,
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  Speaker 5: something like donor fatigue, right? Because as you overvalue these franchises,
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden– Now, all these ticket prices are
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  Speaker 5: going up to things that people can't afford and because
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  Speaker 5: everything's getting much more expensive. And so sports are no different.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, they're getting, I think, you know, more expensive
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  Speaker 5: faster than anything that, you know, anything in real life.
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  Speaker 5: And so you're going to eventually have all these people
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  Speaker 5: that can't afford to do it. And now you've got
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  Speaker 5: these franchises that are overvalued monetarily and because they're banking
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  Speaker 5: on the fans.
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  Speaker 3: To be overvaluing it emotionally.
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  Speaker 5: And then they can't afford to keep up with the
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  Speaker 5: value that you're placing on it.
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  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I completely agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do this. We'll take a break. We'll come back.
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel, college football. Oh, goodness me. Are you broken?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. We'll talk about that next.
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  Speaker 1: Now with Stuart Mandell, here's Ian.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we are talking college football with our guy,
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel, editor-in-chief of the Athletics College Football Coverage, one
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  Speaker 2: of the three co-hosts of the Audible podcast as well,
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  Speaker 2: which is sensational. And good to have Stu on. Honestly, Stuart,
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  Speaker 2: I look forward to this every week. I don't just
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  Speaker 2: say that, not lip service. I've really been looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to this conversation for the last probably six, seven days,
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  Speaker 2: whenever all hell broke loose with 2014 playoffs. And, oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, we had– If it was ESPN, they
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  Speaker 2: would have named Saturday something already, probably, you know, Catastrophe Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: whatever they would have called it. But good to have
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  Speaker 2: you on, my friend. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? I'm good. What's the biggest storyline from
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  Speaker 2: the last week, Stu? Is it 2014 playoff and the
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  Speaker 2: people mad about that? Or is it what happened on
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  Speaker 2: the field on Saturday?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they've kind of fallen hand in hand.
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  Speaker 4: The 2014 playoff was huge news. And then Saturday was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it led to a lot of us thinking, well,
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  Speaker 4: what would this have felt like? Because I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty heartbroken about the 2014 playoff. That's how much
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  Speaker 4: I feel like this is a mistake. And I woke
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  Speaker 4: up still kind of upset about Saturday morning. And then
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  Speaker 4: the game started and they were awesome. You were able
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  Speaker 4: to put that to the side, but I did find
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  Speaker 4: myself thinking, well, what would this feel like next year?
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  Speaker 4: What would some of these games have felt like next
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  Speaker 4: year if you didn't have the stakes of, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: that Ohio State-Indiana game whether Nick Marsh gets his foot
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  Speaker 4: in or not is going to determine whether Iowa State
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  Speaker 4: would be on the bubble right now and without their quarterback, right?
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  Speaker 4: That was the stakes there. Texas is in crisis right now.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they would be in crisis. They could
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  Speaker 4: go eight and four. So it's hard not to think
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  Speaker 4: about the two in connection to each other.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go through the– I'll get to the on-the-field stuff
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  Speaker 2: because we'll start looking ahead to next week as well.
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  Speaker 2: But let's just talk about the 2014 playoff. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel the same way as you. I hear both
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  Speaker 2: sides of the argument. When someone says to you, Stuart Mandel,
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  Speaker 2: why are you against the 2014 playoff? What's your answer?
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  Speaker 4: It devalues the greatest regular season in sports.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I think it's bang on. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to argue that. I know that is this
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  Speaker 2: just strictly, get away from the money grab for schools
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. I saw the quotes from, I think it
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  Speaker 2: was Western Michigan's coach, but I talked about this with
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  Speaker 2: my buddy Gary Parrish from CBS Sports and does a
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  Speaker 2: great college basketball podcast. We had this conversation last year
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  Speaker 2: when they were talking about and now expanding the March Madness.
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  Speaker 2: He said, what we're doing here is we're allowing this
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  Speaker 2: middle group of teams that have achieved nothing, coaches to
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  Speaker 2: save their livelihoods perhaps, their jobs, what have you, So
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  Speaker 2: what is the reasoning behind 24 teams besides just the
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  Speaker 2: obvious that the Big Ten wants to get all their
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  Speaker 2: teams in or the SEC wants to get all their
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  Speaker 2: teams in, which is weird because I thought the SEC
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  Speaker 2: was against it.
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  Speaker 4: I think to this day, Greg Sankey personally is against it,
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  Speaker 4: but he's got to do what his members want. Um,
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  Speaker 4: this is all just an offshoot of everything else. Everything ever,
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  Speaker 4: every other form of chaos that has happened over the
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  Speaker 4: last five to six years, these schools, these ADs are
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  Speaker 4: just chasing their tails nonstop. How are we going to
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  Speaker 4: afford this? How are we going to afford that? How
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  Speaker 4: are we going to afford to pay the players? And
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  Speaker 4: I think even though this isn't going to make them
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  Speaker 4: a windfall by any means, they look at it as
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  Speaker 4: if I'm going to expect my donors to keep giving
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  Speaker 4: me money to fund a 30, 40, $ 50 million roster
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  Speaker 4: every year, um, I need to be able to tell
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  Speaker 4: them that, hey, it paid off with X. And if
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  Speaker 4: we're not going to make the 12-team playoff regularly, then
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  Speaker 4: let 12 more of us make it. The analogy I
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  Speaker 4: use in the OIC today, it's like they all ask
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  Speaker 4: for a booster seat to sit at the adult table.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a shame because I think every decision they've made,
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  Speaker 4: the leaders of the sport make are so short-sighted and
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  Speaker 4: they never think down the road. And so they may think, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if we make the 2014 playoff, everybody will
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  Speaker 4: be happy. Maybe the first time, but I think much
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  Speaker 4: like in every other sport, right, then it'll be, well,
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  Speaker 4: did you go far enough? And I think we will
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  Speaker 4: see coaches get fired because they snuck into the 2014
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  Speaker 4: playoffs as a low seed and got killed in the
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  Speaker 4: first round. You know, I think I get the people,
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  Speaker 4: the fan bases I'm seeing who are the most into
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  Speaker 4: it are frankly from the Big 12 teams. And I
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  Speaker 4: think because they're frustrated that there seems to be a
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  Speaker 4: cap of one, maybe two teams in this current iteration
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  Speaker 4: for them. And I get that. And so, yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: first time that Oklahoma state or Kansas state or somebody
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  Speaker 4: makes this, I'm sure it's going to be a really
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  Speaker 4: big deal, but I think reality is going to set
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  Speaker 4: in pretty quickly when they realize your nine and three
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  Speaker 4: big 12 team is never going to make it over
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  Speaker 4: the big center. SEC is eight and 14. Like this
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  Speaker 4: is going to continue to be dominated by those two conferences. Um,
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  Speaker 4: And so it may feel at first like, oh, this
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  Speaker 4: is great. We have so much more access. And then
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to settle in like, oh, this
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: is really just the 12 team percentage-wise.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Well, and Stuart Mandel joining us from the Athletic. See,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: that's the thing I've kind of come back to is that,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you know, who does it benefit? It doesn't probably benefit,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: as you said, the Big 12. Boy, I really don't
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: think it benefits the ACC, right? I mean, like I'm
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: just looking at it even this year. In the ACC,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Miami would be in. maybe Wake would be in. Does
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: the ACC ever get more than two teams in? Does
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: the Big 12 ever get more than two teams in?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Because you said it right. The SEC and then, to
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: a certain extent, the Big 10, those extra teams are
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: going to come from those two conferences, right?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Well, this was Tony Petitti's. He ended up getting everybody
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: on board, but this was his drive from the beginning.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Let's think about the Big 10, who's actually done pretty
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: well in getting teams in. But they're the obvious sets, right?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: They're Ohio State, Indiana, you know, those kind of teams. Well,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Penn State the first year. He's doing this for Minnesota
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: and Iowa and Illinois and Purdue, frankly. Northwestern, these teams
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: that are not realistically going to make the 12-team playoff
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: very often, if ever. But now don't view... Iowa fan
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: base in particular has always been, I think, more excited
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: about going to a good New Year's Day Bowl than
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: anybody else. But even they now feel like that's not
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: a worthy reward.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm going to look at. I kind
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of look at it more like it's the mushy middle
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: gets taken care of. If you're a Washington fan, you're
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: thrilled about this. You think this is the greatest thing ever.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I guess, I mean, not based on the surveys and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: stuff we're doing where 85% of the fans are against this.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And that includes fans of teams that would benefit from it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, my colleague David Uvin did a
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: story in the off season about how 80 different schools
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: would have made it under this format since 2014, if
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: you go by the old rankings. And yet there are
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of fans of those schools that have enough
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: appreciation for the sport as a whole to say, no,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I don't want to, You know, it's frustrating to me
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: that this is all happening right after Indiana won the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: national championship. You would think that would have been the
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: sign of there's hope for everybody. Like, why don't we
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: want to go out and try to become the next
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Indiana versus why don't you lower the bar for the
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: rest of us?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: That's exactly. Sir Matt Dale joining us, by the way,
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• 19:08
  Speaker 2: when only the absolute best will do. Stuart, does this
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: help anybody in the group of six?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, theoretically it does just because there's now more
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: opportunities for more than one of them to get in.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: There have been seasons in the past. There may be
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: seasons going forward where they have more than one team
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: ranked in the top 24. So... And then maybe honestly,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I guess the other thing I would say is they
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: might be playing lower ranked teams in those early games
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: than they do now. So maybe it gives you a
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: little more chance. I actually, I think that those are
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: probably the teams that I feel, best for in this
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: situation because it gives them a path that we've seen
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: in basketball where a mid-major crashes the party, pulls some upsets,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: raises their profile, and eventually gets invited up to a
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: better conference.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I think– to me, I would look at it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: like this. If you're going to tell me that with
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: 24 teams– You could have a year, like, say, let's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: just use this year, where let's say Oregon State beats
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Boise State. And so Oregon State's got two losses, but
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they beat Boise State. Boise State's got two losses, lost
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to Oregon State, lost to Oregon. Oregon still ends up
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: being maybe okay. Those two teams could get in, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: maybe even a JMU or somebody like that?
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe. I think one thing I'm trying to–
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: manage expectations on is it's very easy to go back
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: and look at the past rankings and say, well, see,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: this is how it would have turned out.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: The committee is now going to be paying a lot
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: closer attention to who they rank 13 to 24 than
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: they have in the past. And I think they're going
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: to be much more strict about strength of schedule. So
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't just assume that, well, if James Madison goes
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: 11 and one this year and Boise, you know, that
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: they'll all be in the top 25. I wouldn't necessarily
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: assume that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: My last one on this before we move to the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: games on the field. Will Notre Dame ever miss the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: playoff if it's a 24-team field? I don't know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: They had some pretty bad teams back in the Bob Davey,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Ty Willingham period. This works out great for them. There's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: no question about it because they do have to worry
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: right now about– The SEC going to nine. Everybody's gone
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: to nine games now. There's less opportunities for them to
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: schedule those kind of opponents, which would have made it
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: hard to get in some years at 10-2 if you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: didn't play a great schedule. But I think the ones
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: that it benefits the most and who probably don't need
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: it to is Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia. You say as
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: a team, Ohio State hasn't gone less than 10-2 in
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the regular season since I think 2011. You think they're
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: going to go less than eight and four? We're going
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to know going into every single season, probably at least
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: a half dozen of the teams are already in the playoffs.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And that's not true in any other sport. It's really not.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: You don't know going into the NFL season. You might
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: think you know who the best teams in the NFL
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: are in a given season, but none of them are preordained.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: In this sport, being what it is, the haves and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: the have-nots, yeah, there's a small handful of blue blood
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: programs that are going to be in it every year.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Well, the NFL had a preordained team this year in
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles named the Rams and they're, uh, they're two
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and four. So you never know. You never know how
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: things are going to work out. Uh, Stuart Baddell joining us.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: All right. Last weekend. Uh, let's start with BYU Notre Dame.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I just, uh, the, the, the classic holy war that
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: took place comes down to the final play and, Stuart,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: how bad did the Big 12 officials screw up? Should
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame have had one more– take the P.I.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Aside.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Should they have one more chance at a win in
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: that game?
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: They should have. They screwed that up as badly as
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the Big 10 did. But if you notice, not nearly
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: as much outrage because the last team anybody's going to
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: feel sorry for is Notre Dame. So it hasn't blown
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: up the way that one did the first game. But
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you know, it's not good when
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: the big 12, it's only took them like an hour
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: to come out and put out that statement that, yeah,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: we got that wrong.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: When are we going to, when are we going to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: not have that issue anymore with clocks and time in football?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Like when, when was that going to, I mean, that's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: two times in this season that we've had egregious issues
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: with a clock. I don't know what can be done.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I know you've talked to people around the football. I,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it's just that because it taints it for BYU too.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I guess that's the other thing. Like it,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: There's going to be people that will look over and say, well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you know, BYU, and they beat Notre Dame sort of.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have no idea what Notre Dame was
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: going to do on the last play, right? We don't know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: It's not like the Western Michigan thing was different, but
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we have no idea if Notre Dame was going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: score on that final play.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Well, the Western Michigan thing is they were winning when
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the game ended, right?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: We don't know if Notre Dame would have actually, I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: they were still 10 yards out, right? They still would
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: have had to make a pretty remarkable play.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right, let's look around the rest of college
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: football and all this stuff. What's going on with Kalen
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: DeBoer in Alabama? How concerned are fans down there with
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: what's going on? I know Ryan Grubb comes under fire.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here at the building where he was the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for one year only and one and done
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: before rejoining Kalen. But what's the story with Kalen DeBoer
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: in Alabama right now?
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I caught a little find on the other day. Apparently,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: it's not DeBoer they're mad at. It's Ryan Grubb. Um,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: which is interesting.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: They looked, there's no other way to put it. They
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: looked really unprepared, um, and overmatched, uh, on offense in
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: that game. And it was puzzling because they have actually
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: looked really good on offense this year. I do not
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: to make excuses, but I'm sure losing that Georgia game,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the way they did at the end and turning around
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and going on the road to your arch rival, that's
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: an uneasy turnaround. Um, they have a chance, I think,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: to write the ship here this week against really struggling
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Texas A & M team. But yeah, they're teetering. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: think one reason it's hard to definitively rule any of
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: these SEC teams out is I'm sure there's going to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: be a 9-3 SEC playoff team, at least one. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you just don't know. Can Alabama afford another loss on
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: top of that and still go? I don't think we
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: would count on that necessarily, but I wouldn't rule it out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: You wrote, and I think this is awesome, if you're
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: looking for an overrated conference, I'd point you to the
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, which is 4-10 against Power 4 Conferences. The
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Big Ten's an interesting conference. We just saw the great matchup,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Ohio State-Indiana. But that takes on a different tone now, too,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: because Ohio State loses Julian Sane. And the guy that
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: would have been their number two is at Louisville. The
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: guy that they thought would be number two was a five-star,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: got beat out by a three-star, if that matters at all,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. But Ohio State doesn't
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: have their starting quarterback. UCLA doesn't have their starting quarterback.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Michigan maybe are finally going to make a move at
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position. But let's look at the Big Ten.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: The Big Ten as a whole, what's our assessment of
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: this conference right now?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Pretty underwhelming. Now I want to give UCLA credit for
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: what they've done. And if they end up playing in
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the big 10 championship game, you know, we won't be
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: complaining about that. Indiana is still really good. I'm waiting.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to, I don't want to
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: small house. They fall apart. Brian day knows what he's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: doing with quarterbacks. But it gets really thin after that,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: because Oregon has been disappointing. Michigan has been disappointing. I'm
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: waiting for USC to, For that to work itself out, like, yeah,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: they're 6-1 and ranked 16th, but, you know, nobody seems
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to view them that way. You know, it's thin. There's
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: no other way to put it. And so I know
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: everybody wants to say the SEC is a fraud. They're overrated.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Everybody's beating each other. And I would just say, like, well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: who are the Big Ten's big signature wins so far?
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: They don't have many.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: One team that has a signature win, but, man, they
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: feel like they are on the ropes and struggling. Another
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: local tie, our friend Sark. Sark after dark. They got
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: issues down in Texas, and they got Ole Miss rolling
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: into this week, a 5-1 Ole Miss team that's ranked
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: number seven in the country. Arch Manning, questions about him.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: What's going on down with Sark in Texas?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Their offense is a mess all across the board. The
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: offensive line is not playing well. They can't run the ball.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: And Arch has obviously been a big disappointment. And so
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: you have Stark out there saying, we're going to evaluate everything.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Very interested to see what he finds. Oh, and also,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: they're maybe the best defensive player in the country. Colin
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Simmons is out for several weeks. So it's just like
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: everything is not going well.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: With Arch... Did everyone just miss on him and his
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: talent level because his last name was Manning and so forth?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been in the program for a while.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It's not like he's a freshman coming in or even
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a redshirt freshman coming in. He's been around the program.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: They spent some money on a receiver and a running back,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure the rest of the roster as well.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: So was this just a miss, not just a Sark miss?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Did everyone just kind of miss in the evaluation of
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Arch Manning, do you think?
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: It's been pretty puzzling because I'm not a recruiting guru.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I don't sit there watching their high school tape and
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: trying to analyze it. But it did seem to me
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: almost from the first start last year against Ohio State,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: something was off. And then it took a long time
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: for people to accept that. And like, you know, even
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: earlier this season, Bruce and Ralph were paying me as
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: like this arch hater. And I was just thinking, but,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: but what are you guys seeing? Like, what are you seeing? Um,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and I just think, yeah, I think the whole industry
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: got blindsided by the last name. Um, doesn't mean he's bad.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to, I don't mean, I don't put
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: him in the same conversation as Bryce Underwood, but you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: he's not a number one pick. He's not, um, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: win the Heisman. You're already starting to see him slide
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: on the draft boards to like people's sixth quarterback. Wouldn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: be surprised if you're, you know, once we actually get
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: to the draft next year, he's even lower than that. So,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: but he does have a half season to figure something out.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't really even have a great comparison.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: He's just, five-star quarterback evaluation is really hard. You know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: they hit maybe one in three of those guys and
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: he does not appear to be one of them.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: We've had guys up here. I mean, I think you
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: and i've talked about before i mean in fact it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: funny i saw max brown write something about this the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: other day he came from skyline high school up here
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: uh same high school that produced a guy by the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: name of jake heaps uh skyline high school both those
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: guys were five stars and both of them you know
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: didn't i mean sam heward was a five star he
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: was a five star when he was an eighth grader
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: started as a true freshman for one of the best
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: teams in the state that was a miss all the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: way around because he had four receivers that all were
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: supposed to be D1 guys, and all those guys didn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: last more than one or two years at the same school,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: and most of them ended up in smaller schools. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Sam was probably the biggest one. He was probably the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: biggest bust, and I always wonder if he just got
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: broken when they put him in the Apple Cup that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: year and Jake Dicker took it to him. But who knows?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's hard to evaluate those guys.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: It's hard because they're playing, in many cases, they're playing
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: greatly over mass competition. I know Arch was at the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: school he was at. And also, this is a position
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: where even if you have all the physical ability, so
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: much of being a successful quarterback is processing and reading
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: defenses and just, as they say, intangibles. And, you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: these recruiting, I mean, the recruiting guys, I don't want
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to throw them all under the bus. They do, they
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: work hard to get these things right. But a lot
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: of times they're watching these quarterbacks in seven on seven
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: without pads on. And how are you supposed to, you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: how are you supposed to, um, how does that translate?
• 31:01
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• 31:02
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• 31:05
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• 31:10
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• 31:15
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• 31:16
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• 31:18
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• 31:20
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• 31:23
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• 31:24
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• 31:25
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks again.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Stuart. Stuart Mandel, more to come. Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
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• 32:03
  Speaker 2: play in a second. I just want to wrap up
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: our conversation with Sir Mandel. 49451 is the Tacoma Dodge
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: text line. 49451. Ash, college football is an interesting spot,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and it's becoming more interesting. Have you seen the story
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: out of Corvallis this week with Jesse Legree? I have not.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: So his father has been teasing this thing called Decision Day, right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. And he said, this is the tweet six hours
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: ago from Jeffrey Legree, the father, I guess, of Jesse.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: He says, thank you to all the agencies, agents, NFL,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: NBA reps, and scouts for your interest in the Legree boys.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Jesse and Josiah, I guess his brother's a basketball player,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: have narrowed down their choices. Please limit calls, texts, emails,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and additional pitches as they finalize their decisions. This is
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: separate from decision day. So there's like a decision day
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: on Friday. They've been teasing. He's got Oregon State up
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: in arms. He's basically insinuating that Jesse, his son, is
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: maybe looking at transferring even before the season's over. Then
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: he's kind of deciding, oh, that's not it. He's talking
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: about it's the Legree effect, decision day, official media notice
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: coming up Friday at 2 p.m. It's just... The whole
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: thing stinks. It's a circus, it sounds like. So he's
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: the father of basically just one of the best stories
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in college football and best stories in sports these days.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: But he won't say what it is. So say what
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you're doing, you're holding the whole fan base hostage. A
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: fan base as it stands right now is like furiously
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: probably won't matter, but trying to put together a package
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to keep him in Corvallis is And we all know
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: he's going to end up at Ohio State or whatever. Right.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Because that's what happens.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, God, just play football. Just play football.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: But yeah, take that $ 2 million that Chad Johnson offered
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: to stay at Oregon State.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I saw that. Chad must have a lot of money.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure he does.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he does. But that's a lot. Just to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: pay a guy to stay for one more year? I
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: love it. How'd that work out here with DeMond? Not great.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: But I like that it's a guy— How that worked
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: for Michigan.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Let's take them on. How that worked for Michigan and
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, not good either. I just like that it's
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: a guy saying, like, this is my alma mater. I
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: want you to stay. I know what's going to happen.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe Gardner can— Gardner' s made a ton of money for being
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: a backup in the NFL. Maybe he can keep our
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: quarterback if he ends up being good.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it might have to dip into his
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: jorts budget yearly, but that's okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Or Jalen Watson, you're making all that money with the
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Rams right now. Come on now.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, step up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Step up. I just think, but for every guy that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it means something, then you go, well, what about the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: receiver running back that they signed for Arch? What about Arch?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, we go through the list. It's like, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: don't know if there's a worse investment, and I know
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: this goes against everything in today's college football. I don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: know if there's a worse investment you can make as
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: a human being than paying an 18- to 22-year-old kid
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: seven figures to play football for your favorite school. Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's– here's the thing that– And I know
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it's the cost of doing business. Right. But it seems to–
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's no guarantees, and you only do
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: it for one year.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And this is the thing that I don't like about it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, constantly asking people to do this and
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: alumni and whatever. It's one thing if some guy just
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: wants to– like Chad Ochocinco wants to just step in
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: and do it. But when you're constantly having to reach
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: out to your alumni base and your fan base and say, oh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: we need more money, we need more money, we need
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: more money, and you're already asking them for more money
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: because season tickets increase every single year. And so it's like, again,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, this isn't the first time we've talked about this, but, yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: your donor fatigue is going to come fast and furious.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: That's for sure.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Might already be here, actually, a lot of ways, too.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do a little David Power play. Here
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: we go. Here come the Kraken. Good half. Dumpers in
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Done a shot.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: He scores! That's right. This is the Daily Power Play.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: On your home to the Kraken, Sports Radio 93.3, KJR-FM.
• 36:35
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• 36:37
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• 36:44
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• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: All right, your daily power play at home for the Kraken,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. Kraken get a win last night in a shootout.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: 6-3-1 now on the season, Seattle. That's third place in
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Division behind Edmonton and Vegas. They are two
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: clear of San Jose.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Who is the second wildcard team with Colorado. Good start.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It is going to get a lot tougher. Two Central
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Division teams, Utah here tomorrow, nationally televised game, Minnesota on Saturday,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: a little Saturday night hockey. And climate plagiarism with Minnesota here.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: If you have a third period like you had last
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: night in your Seattle, at any point in time in
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: those next two games, it ain't going to be pretty.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: That was rough.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: The third period.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: The rest of the game was great.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: The rest of the game was fine. Third period, not
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got to avoid that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: But 6-3-1, we'll take 6-3-1 all day. Great start to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the season for them. Berkeley Canton gets another assist. Monty
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: gets a goal. Riker gets a goal.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Real glad we've got McMahon. Real glad we've got McMahon.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Nice little shootout action. Really good story. I think Mike's
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: going to do something with this on Kraken Weekly, Kraken Today,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Kraken Late Night, Overnight Kraken, Kraken Off the Record, whatever.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Kraken 24-7.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Whatever the podcast is.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Just going to live stream.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Softie's got Lane Lambert on today. Maybe he'll ask
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: him about the shootout stuff, too. Like, they worked on
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the shootout a lot in the offseason. Their goaltending coach
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: did something that was pretty cool. They just broke it
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: all down from a goalie's perspective, and they're having success.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: They're 2-0 in shootouts this year, and it feels like
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: last year they went the entire season without winning a
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: shootout until, like, the very end. So it's a nice
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: little start. Tomorrow's game, by the way, 7 o'clock, because
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: it's on national TV. It's not one of the early games,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: which we've been having a lot lately. So get there
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: early tomorrow. And away you go. All right. That's your
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: daily power play on your home for the crack at
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. Hey, we're working on something. When Ashley gets confirmation,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: if you remember last week, we were talking about fantasy
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: football with Funston. Normally at 2 o'clock on Thursdays. We're
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: going to try to move him to 1 tomorrow. We're
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: waiting to get final confirmation, right? But we're going to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: try to move him to one tomorrow. So I want
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to give people an early heads up on that because
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's obviously way different than the unofficial start of the weekend.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Off the beaten path. So if we're able to confirm
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that before the end of the show, we'll let you know.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: But looking at maybe having him on tomorrow at one
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and Paolo Zolo at two tomorrow because Funston's traveling. He's
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a world traveler apparently. Is that right, Ashley?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to be. boarding the flight when he
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: would normally be on.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: When he'd be normally talking to Mike and Edmonds and
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Ricky and Tacoma and all those guys, he's actually on
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a flight, is what you're saying.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And we didn't have phone calls last week because we
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: had the short show, right?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I know, so that's why I'm like, we can't do
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: that again to our regulars. We've got to find a
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: way to do this.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Well, we're coming up on the halfway mark of fantasy
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: football season.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and last week I decided to figure out in
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: all three leagues how to score the least amount of
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: points possible.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It was pretty remarkable.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: How do you do that?
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know, and I don't want to do it again.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: So I don't want to dive into how I did it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I just want to not ever do it again.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: It was pretty amazing.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I love that. All right, well, we'll find out. We'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: hopefully let you guys know before we go off the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: air today. But we're planning tomorrow on flipping Palazzolo. He's
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: good with that. We'll put him at two. And we'll
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: check in with Funston tomorrow at 1 p.m. That's our
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: plan on the table as we speak right now.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Come back. Corbin Smith is going
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to join us. All things Seahawks to get ready for
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker and the Chiefs coming up next.