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The Muster- Nathan Burdon: One Last Dance For The Stags · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burton. He's based in Invercargill.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Nathan. That song there is Paradise by The
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  Speaker 1: Dashboard Light by Meatloaf. It's got three parts to it.
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  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it reminds me of the South African
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  Speaker 1: national anthem has three different languages. Well, this has got
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  Speaker 1: three different parts to the song. How's that for a correlation?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's... Yeah, correlation's not causation, but, yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 2: hell of an intro, man.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there you go for a hell of an artist
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  Speaker 1: who's gone but not forgotten. The Stags, one last dance
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night against Northland. And, yeah, we'll just... We'll leave
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  Speaker 1: the review until next week, but at the moment, still
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  Speaker 1: one game to go for the guys. And last week
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  Speaker 1: against Canterbury, close but no cigar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they... I've got to be honest, I was pretty
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  Speaker 2: concerned about that game. Um... You know, we've been on
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  Speaker 2: the wrong end of some pretty fearful hikes from Canberra
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  Speaker 2: teams in recent years and sort of had that feeling
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  Speaker 2: about it, you know, as you sort of drill towards
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season and those injuries have been
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  Speaker 2: biting and they've had to go deeper and deeper into
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  Speaker 2: the reserves. But they did stick to it in the
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  Speaker 2: second half and they really actually put themselves in the
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  Speaker 2: shot of winning that game, didn't they? Which, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they just defiantly took some pride for that, showed some resilience.
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  Speaker 2: And they'll need a bit more of that on Friday
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  Speaker 2: night against Northern, won't they? Because their Tunny Farr side
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  Speaker 2: are pretty quality.
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  Speaker 1: And they'll be hurting as well. They lost the shield,
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  Speaker 1: and really, they shouldn't have.
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  Speaker 2: That was a massive surprise. I mean, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: I had an absolute shock with my picks last week.
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  Speaker 2: I think I might have got one, maybe two right
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  Speaker 2: from the whole round. It seemed to be... It seemed
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  Speaker 2: to be a weekend for upsets. But, yeah, no, they're
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  Speaker 2: a good team. They've been travelling pretty well for most
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  Speaker 2: of the season. They seem to be lifting around the shield,
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  Speaker 2: but picking up wins outside of that as well. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see, I guess, psychologically what losing
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  Speaker 2: the Logwood does mean. But by the same token, there
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  Speaker 2: is the Peter Tietai trophy as well, which is, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Pete's such a legend in both provinces, particularly down here.
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  Speaker 2: Great man. So both those teams would love to get
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  Speaker 2: their hands on that trophy.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Hawke's Bay gets the last round for the Shield
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  Speaker 1: Challenge for the year against Counties. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people saying you don't want Hawke's Bay to win it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're good enough, you're good enough. They've
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  Speaker 1: lost a couple of games in a row at home, actually. So,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Counties a starter's chance in this game, realistically?
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  Speaker 1: Second last or third last on the table?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think they are. The Magpies have been an
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  Speaker 2: absolute enigma for me this year. I mean, probably through
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  Speaker 2: the first half of the season, they looked absolutely unbeatable.
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  Speaker 2: And you had the likes of Folao Whakataua, who was
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  Speaker 2: just playing probably some of the best rugby of his career,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest. And then they seemed to have a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games where they managed to just probably steal
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  Speaker 2: a win with a late second-half performance. And then they
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  Speaker 2: just went completely off the ball. So, really be interested
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  Speaker 2: to know what's been going on behind the scenes with
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  Speaker 2: their team, but they're a pretty proud Radford Shield province,
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  Speaker 2: Hawke's Bay. They love to get their hands on it,
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  Speaker 2: so they will lift for this game. Lots of teams
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  Speaker 2: getting into this round, I suppose, have won on the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: don't they? And they'll probably look to box clever to
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  Speaker 2: some degree, but yeah, I think it'll be a heck
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  Speaker 2: of a game. Both teams with some big ball runners
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  Speaker 2: and and teams that are keen to use the ball,
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  Speaker 2: so it should be pretty entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: The irony being that if Hawke's Bay wins this, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like eight holders of the Logwood in the
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  Speaker 1: last two years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I guess speaks to, you know, the last
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  Speaker 2: two years have probably been, you know, set all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of records for the Logwood moving around, which... I think
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  Speaker 2: you want some decent sort of tenures, don't you, when
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  Speaker 2: it lands in a place? But it's also, by the
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  Speaker 2: same token, it's good to see it move around. I
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  Speaker 2: think what it speaks to is the fact that we've
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  Speaker 2: just got this really entertaining competition, which gives us what
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  Speaker 2: we want, which is at the start of any game,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know which way the result is going to go.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't really ask for too much more at
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  Speaker 2: a time when, you know, probably the, if not the
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  Speaker 2: NPCs being... is being sounded out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of this? We had Sav
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  Speaker 1: on the show on Monday, and there's a case of
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  Speaker 1: the unknown as to what happens with the MPC going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sav and I are on the same
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  Speaker 2: page with this one. I mean, Super Rugby does a job.
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  Speaker 2: It's the professional, and theoretically it's that higher level for
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  Speaker 2: players and should make money. It's the one that the
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  Speaker 2: broadcast deal is predicated on to a large degree. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if it ended tomorrow, I don't think I'd
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  Speaker 2: be too concerned, to be fair. MPC is where it's at.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting to see Dave Rennie sort of come into bat
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  Speaker 2: for the MPC this week as well. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that knows.
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  Speaker 1: A bit about rugby. Now, sad news came out this morning,
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  Speaker 1: the passing of Loosehead Len, a.k.a. Phil Gifford.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, really sad. And I guess just one of those
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  Speaker 2: guys that we've all grown up with, reading, listening to
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  Speaker 2: him on the radio, seeing him on TV, and just
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  Speaker 2: a massive and quality body of work in and around
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  Speaker 2: rugby in particular, the game that he loved, but also
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  Speaker 2: a host of other sports as well. So yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: huge service to sport in general and rugby in particular
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  Speaker 2: in this country.
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  Speaker 1: And he used to do a column in Rugby News
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  Speaker 1: called Loosehead Len featuring Susan of Heron Bay. You can
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  Speaker 1: never forget that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just sort of harks back to
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  Speaker 2: a simpler time, doesn't it? I mean, Rugby News, back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, Rugby News was sort of that must-read
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  Speaker 2: magazine each week. There was a great publication. I used
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  Speaker 2: to get a bit of money freelancing for it from
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  Speaker 2: time to time too, which was pretty handy back in
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  Speaker 2: the day. But, yeah, Lucy, Len, yeah, simple times. Great,
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  Speaker 2: great times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, used to pick up rugby news every Wednesday night
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  Speaker 1: from the Balfour Shop. RIP Phil Gifford. Now we've got
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  Speaker 1: the NRL grand final this week. There's no wars, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty good final in store. Newcastle Knights against
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Roosters. Newcastle, the Novacastrians, as they're known as. Total underdogs.
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  Speaker 1: They've come from the bottom, and they could possibly win
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  Speaker 1: the competition with the first time in donkey's years from
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  Speaker 1: outside the top four.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, massive. They do go on as a pretty hefty underdog,
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  Speaker 2: don't they? But they seem to have momentum on their side.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I should probably be going for
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  Speaker 2: the Roosters in that grand final. I've got a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a very tenuous link with my old Blues mate,
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  Speaker 2: Simon Jones, who's the strength and conditioning coach at the Roosters,
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  Speaker 2: doing a great job there. So, You know, it should
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  Speaker 2: just be an amazing game, you know, watching, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary pick up that Dallium award last night as
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  Speaker 2: well from his couch. There's been probably less more said
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  Speaker 2: about what's going on around the game this week than
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  Speaker 2: there has been about the game itself. But as we
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  Speaker 2: get a bit closer to Sunday, that'll all change and
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  Speaker 2: it's definitely something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about the Newcastle Knights looking for their third premiership,
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  Speaker 1: although they all go on about 1997 when they won.
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  Speaker 1: But that was the year of the Super League war,
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  Speaker 1: of the Brisbane Broncos winning the Super League version. and
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  Speaker 1: Newcastle beating Manly, but you hear nothing about the Super
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  Speaker 1: League and the way the competition was split that year. However,
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  Speaker 1: they did win it with all the teams involved in 2001,
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  Speaker 1: so certainly a bit of history there for the Knights
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  Speaker 1: to look back on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember going through Newcastle on a rugby
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  Speaker 2: trip once way back in the day, and it was
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  Speaker 2: a great whole day, and it was a tough-looking town.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cool town.
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  Speaker 2: It's It's a gritty franchise and it was amazing to
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  Speaker 2: see Matty Johns on the TV and the emotion that
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  Speaker 2: he was showing when they qualified for the final. You
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  Speaker 2: can tell just what it means to those Newcastle faithful.
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  Speaker 1: Myself and Mark Evans, we stayed in Stockton for four
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  Speaker 1: nights once upon a time and it was all about
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  Speaker 1: Newcastle for me at the weekend. Nathan Burden, always appreciate
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  Speaker 1: your time.
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  Speaker 2: Lovely, thanks mate.
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