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WHAT THE HAL?? PODCAST 2.0 – EPISODE 12: Is kindness the path to happiness? · What the Hal?? 2.0

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  It
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  seems
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  like
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  an
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  elusive
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  concept
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  these
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  days,
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  but
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  kindness,
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  kindness
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  still
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  exists.
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  And
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  we'll
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  tell
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  you
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  about
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  an
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  organization
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  devoted
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  to
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  cultivating
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  it.
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  I'm
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  Hal
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  Eisner,
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  and
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  this
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  is
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  what
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  the
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  hell.
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  Smart,
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  fresh,
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  and
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  uplifting.
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  We've
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  got
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  the
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  stories
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  that
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  make
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  say
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  what
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  the
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  hell.
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  A
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  study
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  commissioned
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  by
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  kindness.org
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  discovered
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  a
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  connection
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  between
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  being
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  kind
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  and
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  being
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  happy.
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  I'm
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  Hunter
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  Lowery.
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  We
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  invited
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  folks
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  from
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  kindness.org
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  to
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  explain
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  why
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  kindness
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  prevails
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  even
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  in
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  these
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  seemingly
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  mean
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  and
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  angry
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  times.
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  Joining
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  us
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  is
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  Jacqueline
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  Lindsay,
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  co
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  founder
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  and
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  CEO
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  of
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  kindness.org
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  and
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  chief
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  science
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  officer,
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  Dr.
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  Oliver
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  Scott
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  Curry.
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  say,
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  first
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  of
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  all,
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  welcome,
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  and
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  it's
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  so
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  kind
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  of
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  you
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  to
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  join
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  us.
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  I'm
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  sure
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  you
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  guys
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  get
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  that
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  all
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  the
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  time.
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  First
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  of
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  all,
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  I,
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  I,
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  I
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  think
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  the
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  word
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  kind
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  or
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  kindness
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  is
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  pretty
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  straightforward,
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  but
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  there's
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  some
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  confusion
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  around
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  the
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  term
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  apparently.
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  Tell
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  us
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  the
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  difference
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  about,
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  or
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  difference
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  between
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  rather
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  being
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  kind
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  and
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  being
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  nice.
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  Sure,
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  I'll
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  start.
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  And
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  having
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  us.
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  We're
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  so
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  happy
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  So
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  it
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  was
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  very
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  kind
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  of
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  you
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  to
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  join
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  us.
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  Yes,
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  it
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  was
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  very
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  kind
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  of
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  you
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  to
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  have
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  us.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  Very
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  kind
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  episode.
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  Kind
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  of
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  nice.
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  We
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  could
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  go
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  all
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  day,
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  but
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  I'm.
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  Sure
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  they
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  don't
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  have
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  all.
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  Jacqueline,
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  I'm
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  sorry.
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  Go
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  ahead.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  that.
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  Kindness.
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  So
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  we,
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  give
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  a
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  really
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  simple,
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  but
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  I
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  think
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  easy
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  illustration
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  for
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  people
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  to
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  get
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  the
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  difference.
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  Nice
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  is
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  not
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  telling
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  someone
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  when
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  they
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  have
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  food
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  in
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  their
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  teeth,
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  and
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  kind
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  is
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  telling
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  them
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  when
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  they
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  have
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  food
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  in
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  their
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  teeth.
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  So
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  we
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  see
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  kindness.
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  It
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  takes
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  courage.
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  It
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  can
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  be
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  a
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  little
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  uncomfortable.
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  It's
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  getting
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  out
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  of
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  your
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  comfort
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  zone.
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  Sometimes
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  it's
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  not
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  so
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  much
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  polite.
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  It's
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  taking
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  an
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  action
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  to
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  help
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  someone
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  else.
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  And
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  it
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  can
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  cost
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  something.
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  We
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  actually
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  say
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  the
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  ABCs
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  of
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  kindness
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  and
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  action
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  intended
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  to
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  benefit
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  others,
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  typically
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  with
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  the
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  cost.
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  So
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  that
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  would
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  be
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  the,
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  you
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  know,
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  funniest
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  and
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  simplest
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  way
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  that
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  I
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  would
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  separate
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  kindness
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  and
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  niceness.
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  Oliver
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  can
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  speak
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  maybe
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  more
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  from
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  the
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  scientific
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  side
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  of
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  the
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  definition,
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  which
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  would
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  say
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  there's
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  really
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  no
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  universal
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  definition,
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  even
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  though
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  it's
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  universally
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  understood.
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  But
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  I'll
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  give
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  it
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  to
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  you,
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  Oliver.
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  Yeah.
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  Yes.
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  So
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  like
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  Jacqueline
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  said,
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  we,
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  we
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  talk
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  about
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  the
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  ABCs
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  of
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  kindness,
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  and
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  we
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  recognize
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  that
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  kindness
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  comes
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  in
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  many
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  shapes
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  and
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  forms.
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  So
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  it
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  can
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  be
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  altruism,
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  compassion,
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  duty,
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  fairness,
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  tolerance,
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  respect,
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  and
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  so
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  on.
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  So
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  it
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  takes
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  many
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  forms.
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  You
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  know,
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  those
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  of
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  us
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  of
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  a
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  certain
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  age,
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  Hunter
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  and
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  Elsa
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  excluded,
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  remember
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  the
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  president,
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  Herbert
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  Walker
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  Bush,
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  George
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  Herbert
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  Walker
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  Bush.
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  And
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  we
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  remember
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  when
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  he
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  said
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  things
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  like
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  random
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  acts
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  of
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  kindness
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  and
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  promoted
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  that
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  concept
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  in
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  a
• 3:21
  campaign.
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  I
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  always
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  thought
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  that
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  was.
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  I
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  always
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  thought
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  that
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  was
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  really
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  nice.
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  I
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  liked
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  that.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  it's
• 3:31
  a
• 3:31
  shame
• 3:31
  that
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  politics
• 3:32
  doesn't
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  have
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  that
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  sort
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  of
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  same
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  warm,
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  fuzzy
• 3:35
  thing.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
• 3:37
  even
• 3:37
  back
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  then,
• 3:38
  it
• 3:38
  wasn't
• 3:38
  always
• 3:38
  warm
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  fuzzy,
• 3:39
  but
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  thought
• 3:40
  was.
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  And,
• 3:40
  and
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  so
• 3:41
  is
• 3:41
  that
• 3:42
  sort
• 3:42
  of
• 3:42
  at
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  root
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  some
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  what
• 3:44
  you
• 3:45
  believe
• 3:45
  in,
• 3:46
  people
• 3:47
  should
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  execute
• 3:49
  random
• 3:49
  acts
• 3:49
  of
• 3:50
  kindness?
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  Well,
• 3:53
  we
• 3:53
  would
• 3:54
  actually
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  argue
• 3:54
  kindness
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  isn't
• 3:55
  random.
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  So
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  though
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  sentiment
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  is
• 3:58
  very
• 3:58
  positive,
• 3:59
  we
• 3:59
  try
• 4:00
  and
• 4:00
  challenge
• 4:01
  how
• 4:01
  we
• 4:01
  understand
• 4:02
  it.
• 4:02
  And
• 4:03
  we
• 4:03
  say
• 4:03
  recommended
• 4:04
  acts
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  kindness
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  because
• 4:06
  kindness
• 4:07
  is
• 4:07
  intentional
• 4:08
  and
• 4:09
  it's
• 4:09
  something
• 4:09
  that
• 4:10
  takes
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  little
• 4:10
  effort,
• 4:11
  even
• 4:11
  when
• 4:11
  it's
• 4:11
  just
• 4:11
  holding
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  door
• 4:12
  open.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:13
  yes,
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  would
• 4:14
  say
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  random
• 4:15
  recommended
• 4:16
  all
• 4:16
  acts
• 4:17
  of
• 4:17
  kindness.
• 4:17
  You
• 4:18
  know,
• 4:18
  we
• 4:18
  are
• 4:19
  really
• 4:19
  here
• 4:19
  to
• 4:20
  figure
• 4:20
  out
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  science
• 4:20
  of
• 4:21
  it
• 4:21
  and
• 4:21
  then
• 4:21
  what
• 4:22
  that
• 4:22
  means
• 4:22
  for
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  practice
• 4:23
  of
• 4:23
  it.
• 4:23
  How
• 4:23
  do
• 4:24
  we
• 4:24
  use
• 4:24
  what
• 4:24
  we
• 4:25
  understand
• 4:25
  around
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  evidence
• 4:26
  and
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  benefits
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  then
• 4:27
  help
• 4:28
  guide
• 4:28
  people
• 4:29
  on
• 4:29
  their
• 4:29
  own
• 4:29
  individual
• 4:30
  journey
• 4:30
  toward
• 4:31
  more
• 4:31
  kindness?
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  I'd
• 4:34
  like
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  follow
• 4:34
  up
• 4:35
  on
• 4:35
  that
• 4:35
  whole
• 4:35
  business
• 4:35
  of
• 4:37
  the
• 4:37
  sea
• 4:38
  of
• 4:38
  how
• 4:38
  kindness
• 4:39
  requires,
• 4:40
  you
• 4:40
  know,
• 4:41
  effort
• 4:41
  and
• 4:41
  commitment
• 4:42
  and,
• 4:42
  you
• 4:42
  know,
• 4:43
  maybe
• 4:43
  a
• 4:44
  little
• 4:44
  bit
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  pain
• 4:45
  on
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  part
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  person
• 4:45
  being
• 4:46
  kind,
• 4:46
  because
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  don't,
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  don't
• 4:47
  think
• 4:47
  we
• 4:48
  think
• 4:48
  of
• 4:48
  that.
• 4:48
  We
• 4:49
  think
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  kindness
• 4:49
  as
• 4:49
  being
• 4:50
  effortless.
• 4:50
  But
• 4:51
  what,
• 4:51
  what
• 4:52
  does
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  science
• 4:52
  show?
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  mean,
• 4:54
  how
• 4:54
  do
• 4:54
  people
• 4:56
  get
• 4:56
  themselves
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  force
• 4:58
  themselves
• 4:58
  to
• 4:59
  be
• 4:59
  kind?
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  Well,
• 5:02
  luckily
• 5:02
  that
• 5:03
  it's
• 5:03
  not
• 5:03
  always
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  question
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  forcing
• 5:05
  themselves,
• 5:05
  but
• 5:06
  we
• 5:07
  generally
• 5:07
  think
• 5:07
  about
• 5:08
  acts
• 5:09
  of
• 5:09
  kindness
• 5:09
  as
• 5:09
  ways
• 5:10
  of
• 5:10
  kickstarting
• 5:11
  cooperative
• 5:12
  social
• 5:12
  relationships,
• 5:13
  so
• 5:14
  mutually
• 5:14
  beneficial
• 5:15
  interactions
• 5:15
  with
• 5:15
  others.
• 5:16
  And
• 5:16
  random
• 5:17
  acts
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  kindness
• 5:18
  is
• 5:18
  not
• 5:18
  necessarily
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  bad
• 5:19
  place
• 5:19
  to
• 5:19
  start.
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  kind
• 5:20
  of
• 5:20
  think
• 5:20
  of
• 5:21
  it
• 5:21
  like,
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  know,
• 5:22
  picking.
• 5:24
  Placing
• 5:24
  your
• 5:24
  bets
• 5:24
  at
• 5:25
  random,
• 5:25
  picking
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  random
• 5:26
  number
• 5:26
  on
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  roulette
• 5:27
  table.
• 5:28
  You
• 5:28
  might
• 5:28
  get
• 5:29
  lucky,
• 5:29
  you
• 5:29
  might
• 5:29
  kickstart,
• 5:30
  you
• 5:31
  might
• 5:31
  help
• 5:31
  someone
• 5:31
  who
• 5:31
  really
• 5:32
  needs
• 5:32
  it.
• 5:32
  You
• 5:32
  might
• 5:32
  kick
• 5:33
  start,
• 5:34
  you
• 5:34
  know,
• 5:35
  what's
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  phrase?
• 5:37
  A
• 5:37
  stranger
• 5:38
  is
• 5:38
  just
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  friend
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  haven't
• 5:39
  made
• 5:39
  yet.
• 5:39
  So
• 5:39
  you
• 5:39
  might
• 5:40
  help
• 5:40
  someone
• 5:40
  at
• 5:40
  random
• 5:41
  and,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  know,
• 5:43
  make
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  new
• 5:43
  friend
• 5:44
  or
• 5:44
  whatever.
• 5:45
  But
• 5:45
  as,
• 5:45
  as
• 5:46
  Jacqueline
• 5:46
  said,
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  can,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  can
• 5:47
  go
• 5:48
  one
• 5:48
  better
• 5:49
  than
• 5:49
  that.
• 5:50
  You
• 5:50
  can
• 5:50
  move
• 5:50
  on
• 5:50
  to
• 5:51
  recommended
• 5:52
  acts
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  kindness
• 5:52
  or
• 5:52
  more
• 5:53
  sort
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  more
• 5:53
  deliberate
• 5:54
  acts
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  kindness
• 5:55
  helping
• 5:56
  people
• 5:56
  who,
• 5:57
  who
• 5:57
  maybe
• 5:58
  need
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  really
• 5:58
  more
• 5:59
  or,
• 6:00
  or
• 6:00
  people
• 6:00
  who
• 6:00
  are
• 6:01
  more
• 6:01
  likely
• 6:01
  to
• 6:02
  return
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  favor
• 6:02
  down
• 6:02
  the
• 6:03
  line
• 6:03
  or
• 6:03
  pass
• 6:03
  it
• 6:04
  on.
• 6:05
  So
• 6:05
  with
• 6:05
  a,
• 6:05
  With
• 6:05
  a
• 6:05
  bit
• 6:06
  more
• 6:07
  random
• 6:07
  is
• 6:07
  good,
• 6:08
  but
• 6:08
  with
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  bit
• 6:08
  more
• 6:08
  thought
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  bit
• 6:09
  more
• 6:10
  direction
• 6:10
  you
• 6:10
  can
• 6:11
  really
• 6:13
  get
• 6:13
  these
• 6:14
  virtuous
• 6:14
  circles
• 6:15
  started
• 6:15
  in
• 6:16
  your
• 6:16
  immediate
• 6:17
  social
• 6:17
  life
• 6:18
  and,
• 6:18
  and
• 6:18
  further
• 6:19
  afield,.
• 6:21
  You
• 6:21
  know,
• 6:23
  virtue
• 6:24
  circles.
• 6:24
  I,
• 6:24
  I
• 6:25
  don't
• 6:25
  know
• 6:25
  why
• 6:25
  I'm
• 6:26
  picturing,
• 6:26
  like,
• 6:27
  drums
• 6:27
  and
• 6:28
  candles
• 6:28
  and
• 6:28
  stuff
• 6:29
  like
• 6:29
  that,
• 6:29
  but
• 6:30
  I,
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  don't
• 6:30
  think
• 6:30
  it's
• 6:31
  that.
• 6:31
  It's
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  dramatic.
• 6:32
  But
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  do
• 6:33
  want
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  know
• 6:34
  what
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  benefits
• 6:35
  of
• 6:35
  being
• 6:36
  kind
• 6:37
  are,
• 6:38
  because
• 6:39
  I've
• 6:39
  always
• 6:39
  heard
• 6:40
  throughout
• 6:40
  life,
• 6:40
  if
• 6:41
  you
• 6:41
  do,
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  know,
• 6:43
  if
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  show
• 6:43
  gratitude,
• 6:44
  if
• 6:44
  you,
• 6:46
  you
• 6:46
  know,
• 6:46
  think
• 6:46
  of
• 6:46
  others
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  gift
• 6:47
  others
• 6:48
  without
• 6:49
  expecting
• 6:49
  anything
• 6:50
  in
• 6:50
  return,
• 6:51
  this
• 6:52
  is
• 6:52
  supposed
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  boost
• 6:53
  your
• 6:53
  morale.
• 6:54
  Does
• 6:55
  kindness
• 6:55
  have
• 6:55
  the
• 6:56
  same
• 6:56
  effect?
• 6:59
  Well,
• 7:00
  yes,
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  was,
• 7:01
  that's
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  study
• 7:01
  that
• 7:02
  Howell
• 7:02
  was
• 7:02
  referring
• 7:03
  to.
• 7:03
  So,
• 7:04
  so,
• 7:04
  yeah,
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  think
• 7:05
  you
• 7:06
  should
• 7:06
  think
• 7:06
  about
• 7:06
  kindness
• 7:07
  as
• 7:07
  an
• 7:07
  investment
• 7:08
  in
• 7:08
  your
• 7:09
  social
• 7:09
  relationships.
• 7:10
  And
• 7:10
  ideally,
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  investment
• 7:13
  pays
• 7:13
  off.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  deep
• 7:17
  reason
• 7:17
  why
• 7:18
  people
• 7:18
  are
• 7:18
  kind
• 7:18
  in
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  first
• 7:19
  place
• 7:19
  is
• 7:19
  because
• 7:19
  we're
• 7:20
  social
• 7:20
  animals.
• 7:21
  And
• 7:21
  for
• 7:21
  millions
• 7:22
  of
• 7:22
  years
• 7:22
  we
• 7:22
  lived
• 7:23
  in
• 7:23
  social
• 7:23
  groups
• 7:23
  and
• 7:23
  helped
• 7:24
  one
• 7:24
  another
• 7:25
  survive
• 7:25
  and
• 7:25
  thrive.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  being
• 7:26
  kind
• 7:27
  to
• 7:27
  others
• 7:27
  was
• 7:28
  a
• 7:28
  way
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  maintaining
• 7:29
  those
• 7:29
  relationships
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  making
• 7:31
  sure
• 7:31
  people
• 7:31
  are
• 7:31
  around
• 7:32
  to
• 7:32
  help
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  when
• 7:32
  you
• 7:33
  needed
• 7:33
  it
• 7:33
  to.
• 7:34
  And
• 7:34
  the,
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  positive
• 7:37
  feeling
• 7:37
  that
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  get,
• 7:38
  the
• 7:39
  warm
• 7:39
  glow
• 7:39
  or
• 7:41
  sense
• 7:41
  of
• 7:41
  reward
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  get
• 7:43
  by
• 7:43
  helping
• 7:44
  someone
• 7:44
  is
• 7:44
  an
• 7:44
  anticipation
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  those
• 7:46
  future
• 7:46
  benefits
• 7:47
  down
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  line.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  study
• 7:49
  Hal
• 7:50
  mentioned
• 7:50
  was
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  review
• 7:51
  of
• 7:51
  26
• 7:52
  experiments
• 7:53
  looking
• 7:53
  at
• 7:53
  whether
• 7:53
  helping
• 7:54
  makes
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  happy.
• 7:55
  Some
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  those
• 7:56
  experiments
• 7:56
  were
• 7:57
  people
• 7:57
  were
• 7:58
  assigned
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  either
• 8:00
  perform
• 8:00
  a
• 8:00
  kind
• 8:00
  act
• 8:01
  for
• 8:01
  others
• 8:01
  or
• 8:01
  do
• 8:01
  something
• 8:02
  for
• 8:02
  themselves.
• 8:03
  In
• 8:03
  other
• 8:03
  experiments,
• 8:04
  they
• 8:04
  were,
• 8:04
  for
• 8:04
  example,
• 8:04
  given
• 8:05
  $10
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  told
• 8:07
  either
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  spend
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  on
• 8:08
  themselves
• 8:08
  or
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  spend
• 8:09
  it
• 8:09
  on
• 8:09
  others.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  overall,
• 8:11
  on
• 8:11
  average,
• 8:11
  people
• 8:12
  who
• 8:12
  did
• 8:12
  the
• 8:13
  kind
• 8:13
  act
• 8:13
  for
• 8:13
  someone
• 8:13
  else
• 8:14
  rather
• 8:14
  than
• 8:14
  themselves
• 8:15
  or
• 8:15
  spent
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  money
• 8:15
  on
• 8:16
  someone
• 8:16
  else
• 8:16
  rather
• 8:16
  than
• 8:16
  themselves
• 8:17
  ended
• 8:18
  up
• 8:18
  being
• 8:18
  reporting
• 8:19
  being
• 8:19
  happier
• 8:19
  than
• 8:19
  those
• 8:20
  that,
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  helped
• 8:21
  themselves.
• 8:22
  So
• 8:22
  help.
• 8:22
  Helping
• 8:22
  others
• 8:23
  makes
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  happy
• 8:24
  over
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  above
• 8:25
  helping
• 8:25
  yourself.
• 8:27
  You
• 8:28
  know,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:29
  mentioned
• 8:29
  this
• 8:29
  on
• 8:29
  this
• 8:30
  podcast
• 8:30
  before.
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  was
• 8:32
  out
• 8:33
  one
• 8:33
  time
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  breakfast
• 8:35
  with
• 8:35
  my
• 8:35
  son.
• 8:36
  We
• 8:36
  went
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  cashier,
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  cashier
• 8:38
  said,
• 8:38
  you
• 8:38
  don't
• 8:38
  have
• 8:38
  to
• 8:39
  pay.
• 8:39
  And
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  said,
• 8:39
  why?
• 8:40
  And
• 8:40
  they
• 8:40
  said,
• 8:40
  because
• 8:40
  that
• 8:41
  man
• 8:41
  in
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  corner
• 8:43
  with
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  white
• 8:43
  hair
• 8:44
  who
• 8:44
  was
• 8:44
  having
• 8:44
  breakfast,
• 8:45
  he
• 8:45
  paid
• 8:45
  for
• 8:46
  your
• 8:46
  breakfast.
• 8:46
  He
• 8:47
  said,
• 8:47
  what?
• 8:48
  He
• 8:48
  said,
• 8:48
  yeah,
• 8:48
  he.
• 8:49
  He
• 8:49
  comes
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  every
• 8:50
  weekend
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  he
• 8:51
  picks
• 8:51
  somebody
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  he
• 8:52
  buys
• 8:52
  them
• 8:52
  breakfast
• 8:53
  and
• 8:53
  he
• 8:53
  doesn't
• 8:53
  tell
• 8:53
  them.
• 8:54
  And
• 8:54
  I
• 8:55
  thought
• 8:55
  that
• 8:55
  was
• 8:55
  nice,
• 8:56
  but
• 8:56
  it
• 8:56
  was
• 8:56
  also
• 8:57
  kind.
• 8:58
  And
• 8:58
  I
• 8:59
  went
• 8:59
  out
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  then
• 8:59
  I
• 9:00
  bought
• 9:00
  coffee
• 9:00
  for
• 9:01
  somebody
• 9:01
  in
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  coffee
• 9:02
  line
• 9:02
  at
• 9:02
  Starbucks
• 9:03
  behind
• 9:04
  me
• 9:04
  because
• 9:04
  I
• 9:05
  felt
• 9:05
  like
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  wanted
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  pay
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  forward.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  think
• 9:07
  sometimes,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:09
  know,
• 9:09
  it's
• 9:09
  those
• 9:10
  random
• 9:11
  acts
• 9:11
  of
• 9:12
  kindness
• 9:13
  that,
• 9:13
  that
• 9:14
  Sort
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  resonate
• 9:15
  that
• 9:15
  we
• 9:15
  can
• 9:16
  do
• 9:16
  good
• 9:16
  things
• 9:17
  for
• 9:17
  each
• 9:17
  other.
• 9:17
  I
• 9:17
  go
• 9:18
  back
• 9:18
  to
• 9:19
  something
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  quote
• 9:20
  all
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  time,
• 9:20
  which
• 9:21
  is
• 9:21
  Rodney
• 9:21
  King
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  his
• 9:22
  famous
• 9:23
  saying,
• 9:24
  can't
• 9:24
  we
• 9:24
  all
• 9:24
  get
• 9:24
  along?
• 9:25
  And
• 9:26
  maybe
• 9:26
  we
• 9:26
  could
• 9:26
  all
• 9:27
  get
• 9:27
  along
• 9:27
  if
• 9:27
  we
• 9:28
  were
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  little
• 9:28
  more
• 9:28
  kind
• 9:28
  to
• 9:29
  each
• 9:29
  other.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:30
  in
• 9:30
  effect,
• 9:31
  being
• 9:31
  nicer
• 9:32
  people
• 9:33
  and
• 9:34
  having
• 9:34
  more
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  positive
• 9:35
  impact
• 9:36
  on
• 9:36
  each
• 9:36
  other,
• 9:37
  which
• 9:37
  as
• 9:38
  I
• 9:39
  get
• 9:39
  older
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  wiser,
• 9:40
  and
• 9:42
  God
• 9:43
  forbid
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  should
• 9:43
  say
• 9:44
  it,
• 9:44
  more
• 9:44
  mature,
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  find
• 9:47
  that
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  like
• 9:47
  being
• 9:47
  kind,
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  like
• 9:48
  being
• 9:49
  nice,
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  like
• 9:50
  helping
• 9:50
  people.
• 9:51
  Yeah.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:52
  like
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  say,
• 9:52
  it
• 9:53
  does
• 9:53
  have
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  ripple
• 9:54
  effect.
• 9:54
  So,
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  mean,
• 9:55
  one
• 9:56
  person
• 9:56
  helps
• 9:56
  another
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  first
• 9:58
  person
• 9:58
  feels
• 9:58
  good
• 9:58
  about
• 9:59
  it.
• 9:59
  The
• 9:59
  person
• 9:59
  who
• 9:59
  gets
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  help
• 10:00
  feels
• 10:00
  good
• 10:01
  about
• 10:01
  it.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:02
  studies
• 10:02
  have
• 10:02
  shown
• 10:02
  that
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  recipient
• 10:04
  is
• 10:04
  then
• 10:04
  more
• 10:05
  likely
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  go
• 10:05
  on
• 10:05
  and
• 10:05
  help
• 10:06
  someone
• 10:06
  else,
• 10:06
  like
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  did
• 10:07
  in
• 10:08
  buying
• 10:08
  coffees.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:10
  also
• 10:11
  third
• 10:11
  parties.
• 10:12
  So
• 10:12
  people
• 10:12
  who
• 10:12
  witness
• 10:13
  one
• 10:13
  person
• 10:13
  being.
• 10:14
  Kind
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  another,
• 10:15
  talk
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  us
• 10:15
  about
• 10:16
  kindness.org?
• 10:17
  Is
• 10:18
  it,
• 10:19
  why
• 10:19
  did
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  come
• 10:19
  up
• 10:20
  with
• 10:20
  this
• 10:20
  concept?
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  mean,
• 10:22
  it
• 10:22
  seems
• 10:22
  like
• 10:23
  an
• 10:23
  odd
• 10:23
  thing
• 10:23
  for
• 10:24
  an
• 10:24
  organization.
• 10:26
  Oh,
• 10:27
  well,
• 10:29
  I've
• 10:29
  been
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  nonprofit
• 10:30
  space
• 10:30
  my
• 10:31
  whole
• 10:31
  career,
• 10:32
  seen
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  been
• 10:33
  involved
• 10:34
  in
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  lot
• 10:34
  of
• 10:35
  different
• 10:35
  missions
• 10:35
  and
• 10:36
  organizations
• 10:37
  domestically
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  globally.
• 10:40
  And
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  think
• 10:41
  both
• 10:42
  at
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  macro
• 10:42
  level,
• 10:43
  but
• 10:43
  also
• 10:43
  at
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  personal
• 10:44
  level
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  my
• 10:44
  own
• 10:45
  life
• 10:45
  story
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  what
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  had
• 10:46
  gone
• 10:46
  through
• 10:46
  with
• 10:46
  things
• 10:47
  like
• 10:47
  bullying
• 10:47
  and
• 10:47
  mental
• 10:48
  health
• 10:48
  challenges,
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  saw
• 10:50
  kindness
• 10:50
  as
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  root
• 10:51
  of
• 10:51
  everything,
• 10:51
  like
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  really
• 10:53
  essential
• 10:53
  part
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  solving
• 10:54
  any
• 10:55
  modern
• 10:55
  problem.
• 10:55
  You
• 10:56
  really
• 10:56
  can't
• 10:56
  do
• 10:57
  it
• 10:57
  without
• 10:57
  kindness
• 10:58
  as
• 10:58
  the
• 10:58
  foundation.
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  certainly
• 11:01
  don't
• 11:01
  want
• 11:01
  to
• 11:01
  say
• 11:01
  it's
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  silver
• 11:02
  bullet,
• 11:02
  but
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  do
• 11:03
  think
• 11:03
  it's
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  missing
• 11:04
  link.
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  think
• 11:04
  it's
• 11:04
  incredibly
• 11:05
  underestimated,
• 11:06
  even
• 11:07
  how
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  idea
• 11:07
  of
• 11:08
  doing
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  one
• 11:08
  act
• 11:09
  and
• 11:09
  that
• 11:09
  ripple
• 11:09
  effect.
• 11:09
  And
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  think
• 11:10
  what
• 11:10
  Oliver
• 11:11
  was
• 11:11
  starting
• 11:11
  to
• 11:11
  get
• 11:11
  to.
• 11:12
  Every
• 11:12
  act
• 11:13
  makes
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  difference.
• 11:13
  It
• 11:14
  all
• 11:14
  matters,
• 11:14
  it
• 11:14
  all
• 11:14
  contributes,
• 11:15
  and
• 11:15
  it
• 11:16
  has
• 11:16
  an
• 11:16
  impact
• 11:17
  on
• 11:17
  your
• 11:17
  well
• 11:17
  being,
• 11:17
  on
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  other
• 11:18
  person's
• 11:18
  well
• 11:18
  being.
• 11:19
  So
• 11:19
  individually,
• 11:20
  it's
• 11:20
  very
• 11:20
  powerful.
• 11:21
  Collectively
• 11:21
  on
• 11:22
  society,
• 11:22
  it's
• 11:23
  very
• 11:23
  powerful.
• 11:24
  And
• 11:25
  I
• 11:25
  feel
• 11:25
  like
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  needs
• 11:26
  a
• 11:26
  rebrand.
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  feel
• 11:27
  like
• 11:27
  it's
• 11:27
  seen
• 11:28
  as
• 11:28
  this
• 11:28
  very
• 11:28
  soft,
• 11:29
  fluffy
• 11:29
  idea.
• 11:30
  Whereas
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  actuality
• 11:32
  there
• 11:32
  is
• 11:32
  rigor
• 11:32
  and
• 11:33
  science
• 11:33
  to
• 11:33
  show
• 11:34
  why
• 11:34
  it
• 11:34
  is
• 11:34
  so
• 11:35
  important
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  essential
• 11:36
  for
• 11:36
  our
• 11:37
  well
• 11:37
  being
• 11:37
  in
• 11:37
  our
• 11:37
  society
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  thrive.
• 11:39
  And
• 11:39
  what
• 11:39
  Oliver
• 11:40
  said,
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  more
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  learned,
• 11:42
  not
• 11:42
  coming
• 11:42
  in
• 11:43
  as
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  scientist,
• 11:44
  I'm
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  heart
• 11:45
  and
• 11:45
  he's
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  head.
• 11:46
  I'm
• 11:46
  just
• 11:46
  coming
• 11:47
  in
• 11:47
  with
• 11:47
  passion.
• 11:47
  I'm
• 11:48
  coming.
• 11:48
  It's
• 11:49
  really
• 11:49
  important.
• 11:49
  And
• 11:50
  now
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  I'm
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  mom,
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  want
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  kinder
• 11:52
  world
• 11:52
  for
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  children.
• 11:52
  I
• 11:53
  want
• 11:53
  kinder
• 11:53
  classrooms,
• 11:54
  you
• 11:54
  know,
• 11:54
  I.
• 11:55
  Workplaces,
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  think
• 11:56
  about
• 11:57
  unhealthy
• 11:57
  environments
• 11:58
  I've
• 11:58
  been
• 11:58
  in
• 11:58
  and
• 11:58
  how
• 11:59
  that
• 11:59
  then,
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  know,
• 12:00
  impacts
• 12:00
  how
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  go
• 12:00
  home
• 12:01
  at
• 12:01
  night.
• 12:01
  And.
• 12:02
  And
• 12:02
  so
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  just
• 12:02
  feels
• 12:03
  like
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  this
• 12:03
  very
• 12:05
  critical
• 12:06
  thing
• 12:06
  we
• 12:06
  need
• 12:06
  to
• 12:07
  be
• 12:07
  prioritizing
• 12:07
  and
• 12:08
  speaking
• 12:08
  out
• 12:08
  in
• 12:08
  a
• 12:09
  way
• 12:09
  where
• 12:09
  it's
• 12:09
  essential
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  it's
• 12:10
  seen
• 12:11
  as
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  nice
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  have
• 12:12
  or
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  necessity,
• 12:13
  not
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  nice
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  have.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  so
• 12:15
  kindness.org
• 12:16
  was
• 12:16
  really
• 12:16
  built
• 12:16
  with
• 12:16
  that
• 12:17
  idea,
• 12:17
  using
• 12:17
  science
• 12:18
  and
• 12:18
  data
• 12:18
  and
• 12:19
  evidence.
• 12:19
  Then
• 12:20
  inform,
• 12:21
  well,
• 12:21
  what
• 12:21
  does
• 12:21
  this
• 12:21
  mean
• 12:21
  for
• 12:22
  you?
• 12:22
  What
• 12:22
  does
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  mean
• 12:22
  for
• 12:23
  your
• 12:23
  communities,
• 12:23
  for
• 12:23
  your
• 12:24
  neighbors,
• 12:24
  your
• 12:24
  workplaces,
• 12:25
  your
• 12:25
  schools?
• 12:26
  And
• 12:26
  that's
• 12:26
  how
• 12:26
  we
• 12:27
  think
• 12:27
  about
• 12:27
  our
• 12:27
  contribution.
• 12:29
  You
• 12:29
  know,
• 12:29
  Oliver,
• 12:30
  my
• 12:31
  question
• 12:31
  is
• 12:31
  about
• 12:32
  how
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  measure
• 12:33
  kindness,
• 12:34
  like,
• 12:34
  tangibly.
• 12:37
  Oliver
• 12:37
  mentioned
• 12:38
  that
• 12:39
  one
• 12:39
  part
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  study,
• 12:39
  you
• 12:40
  give
• 12:40
  $10
• 12:40
  to
• 12:41
  someone
• 12:41
  and
• 12:41
  see
• 12:41
  if
• 12:41
  they
• 12:42
  spend
• 12:42
  it
• 12:42
  on
• 12:43
  themselves
• 12:43
  or
• 12:43
  others.
• 12:45
  But
• 12:46
  what
• 12:46
  are
• 12:46
  some
• 12:47
  other
• 12:47
  ways
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  measure
• 12:48
  that?
• 12:48
  So
• 12:48
  you
• 12:48
  have
• 12:49
  some
• 12:49
  definitive
• 12:50
  proof
• 12:51
  that
• 12:52
  kindness
• 12:53
  truly
• 12:53
  does
• 12:53
  make
• 12:54
  a
• 12:54
  difference?
• 12:56
  Well,
• 12:57
  that's
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  good
• 12:57
  question.
• 12:58
  So
• 13:00
  one
• 13:00
  of
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  ways
• 13:00
  we've
• 13:01
  done
• 13:01
  that
• 13:01
  is
• 13:02
  we
• 13:02
  created
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  database
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  over
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  thousand
• 13:04
  acts
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  kindness
• 13:05
  and
• 13:06
  had
• 13:06
  them
• 13:06
  rated
• 13:07
  by
• 13:07
  people
• 13:07
  for
• 13:07
  how
• 13:08
  costly
• 13:08
  and
• 13:08
  beneficial
• 13:09
  they
• 13:09
  were.
• 13:10
  And
• 13:10
  from
• 13:11
  that,
• 13:11
  we
• 13:11
  could
• 13:11
  figure
• 13:11
  out
• 13:13
  which
• 13:13
  were
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  easiest
• 13:14
  things
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  do,
• 13:14
  which
• 13:14
  were
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  most
• 13:15
  beneficial
• 13:15
  things
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  do,
• 13:16
  all
• 13:16
  the
• 13:17
  way
• 13:17
  from
• 13:18
  saying
• 13:18
  hello
• 13:18
  to
• 13:19
  someone
• 13:19
  on
• 13:19
  your
• 13:19
  commute
• 13:20
  through
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  donating
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  kidney
• 13:21
  or
• 13:22
  saving
• 13:22
  someone
• 13:23
  from
• 13:23
  a
• 13:23
  burning
• 13:23
  building.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:27
  we
• 13:27
  could
• 13:27
  find
• 13:27
  out
• 13:27
  what
• 13:28
  were
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  most
• 13:28
  cost
• 13:28
  effective
• 13:28
  things
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  do,
• 13:29
  what
• 13:29
  were
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  easiest
• 13:30
  things
• 13:30
  to
• 13:30
  do
• 13:30
  that
• 13:30
  had
• 13:31
  which
• 13:31
  ones
• 13:32
  did
• 13:32
  you
• 13:32
  get
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  most
• 13:32
  bang
• 13:33
  for
• 13:33
  your
• 13:33
  buck?
• 13:34
  And
• 13:34
  we
• 13:34
  used
• 13:34
  that
• 13:35
  pool
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  then
• 13:36
  create
• 13:36
  a
• 13:36
  new
• 13:36
  type
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  questionnaire
• 13:37
  called
• 13:37
  the,
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  Kindness
• 13:38
  Questionnaire
• 13:39
  or
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  kq.
• 13:40
  And
• 13:41
  we
• 13:41
  gave
• 13:41
  people
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  bunch
• 13:42
  of
• 13:42
  acts
• 13:42
  and
• 13:42
  said,
• 13:43
  okay,
• 13:44
  which
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  these
• 13:44
  things
• 13:44
  would
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  be
• 13:45
  willing
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  do
• 13:46
  for
• 13:46
  your
• 13:46
  neighbor?
• 13:47
  For
• 13:47
  example,
• 13:48
  would
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  lend
• 13:48
  them
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  cup
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  sugar?
• 13:49
  Would
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  lend
• 13:50
  them
• 13:50
  your
• 13:50
  lawnmower?
• 13:51
  Would
• 13:51
  you
• 13:51
  lend
• 13:51
  them
• 13:51
  your
• 13:52
  vacation
• 13:52
  home?
• 13:53
  Would
• 13:53
  you
• 13:54
  take
• 13:54
  in
• 13:55
  their
• 13:55
  pet
• 13:56
  or
• 13:56
  whatever
• 13:57
  it
• 13:57
  was?
• 13:57
  And
• 13:58
  because
• 13:58
  we
• 13:58
  already
• 13:58
  knew
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  costs
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  benefits
• 14:00
  associated
• 14:01
  with
• 14:01
  these
• 14:01
  acts,
• 14:02
  we
• 14:02
  could
• 14:02
  work
• 14:02
  out
• 14:04
  how
• 14:04
  much,
• 14:04
  what
• 14:05
  cost
• 14:05
  people
• 14:05
  were
• 14:05
  willing
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  pay
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  provide
• 14:07
  what
• 14:07
  benefit
• 14:07
  to
• 14:08
  others.
• 14:09
  And
• 14:09
  this
• 14:09
  comes
• 14:09
  back
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  Hunter's
• 14:10
  question
• 14:10
  before.
• 14:11
  So
• 14:13
  previous
• 14:13
  research
• 14:13
  suggests
• 14:14
  that
• 14:16
  paying
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  larger
• 14:17
  cost
• 14:17
  for
• 14:17
  the
• 14:18
  same
• 14:18
  benefit
• 14:19
  is
• 14:20
  interpreted
• 14:20
  as
• 14:21
  a
• 14:21
  kind
• 14:21
  of
• 14:21
  thing
• 14:21
  to
• 14:22
  do.
• 14:22
  So
• 14:22
  if
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  give
• 14:23
  you,
• 14:23
  if
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  give
• 14:24
  you
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  Rolex
• 14:26
  watch,
• 14:26
  because
• 14:27
  I've
• 14:28
  worked
• 14:28
  really
• 14:29
  hard
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  saved
• 14:29
  up
• 14:30
  and
• 14:30
  want
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  give
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  an
• 14:30
  amazing
• 14:31
  present,
• 14:32
  that's.
• 14:32
  That's
• 14:33
  one
• 14:33
  thing.
• 14:33
  If
• 14:33
  I
• 14:34
  give
• 14:34
  you
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  rolex
• 14:34
  watch
• 14:35
  because
• 14:35
  I've
• 14:35
  got
• 14:36
  400
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  I'm
• 14:37
  bored
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  them
• 14:37
  and
• 14:38
  I
• 14:38
  don't
• 14:38
  care
• 14:38
  about
• 14:38
  them
• 14:38
  anymore.
• 14:39
  You
• 14:39
  get
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  same
• 14:40
  benefit
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  a
• 14:40
  watch,
• 14:40
  but
• 14:41
  it
• 14:41
  says
• 14:41
  something
• 14:41
  different
• 14:42
  about
• 14:42
  my
• 14:43
  devotion
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  you,
• 14:44
  what
• 14:44
  I'm
• 14:45
  willing
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  sacrifice
• 14:46
  to
• 14:47
  help
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  out.
• 14:48
  But
• 14:48
  in
• 14:48
  any
• 14:48
  case,
• 14:49
  when
• 14:49
  we
• 14:49
  give
• 14:49
  people
• 14:50
  this
• 14:50
  questionnaire,
• 14:51
  everybody
• 14:51
  says
• 14:52
  they'll
• 14:52
  do
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  easy
• 14:52
  things
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  very
• 14:54
  few
• 14:54
  people
• 14:54
  say
• 14:54
  they
• 14:54
  do
• 14:54
  the
• 14:55
  very
• 14:55
  hard
• 14:55
  things.
• 14:55
  But
• 14:56
  people
• 14:56
  differ
• 14:56
  where
• 14:56
  they
• 14:56
  say,
• 14:57
  yes,
• 14:57
  yes,
• 14:57
  yes,
• 14:57
  I'll
• 14:58
  do
• 14:58
  this,
• 14:58
  but
• 14:58
  actually,
• 14:58
  no,
• 14:59
  I'll
• 14:59
  stop
• 14:59
  here.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:00
  everybody
• 15:01
  draws
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  line
• 15:01
  in
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  different
• 15:02
  place.
• 15:03
  Everyone
• 15:03
  has
• 15:03
  a
• 15:04
  different
• 15:04
  trade
• 15:04
  off
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  costs
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  benefits
• 15:06
  they're
• 15:06
  willing
• 15:06
  to
• 15:07
  incur
• 15:07
  for
• 15:07
  others.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  allows
• 15:09
  us
• 15:09
  to
• 15:09
  put
• 15:09
  a
• 15:09
  very
• 15:09
  precise
• 15:10
  figure
• 15:10
  on
• 15:10
  how
• 15:11
  kind
• 15:11
  they
• 15:11
  are
• 15:12
  measured
• 15:13
  as
• 15:13
  a
• 15:14
  function
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  how
• 15:15
  kind
• 15:15
  they
• 15:15
  are
• 15:15
  relative
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  themselves.
• 15:17
  So
• 15:17
  this
• 15:18
  is
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  technical
• 15:18
  small
• 15:19
  print,
• 15:19
  but
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  way
• 15:21
  it
• 15:21
  works
• 15:21
  is
• 15:21
  everybody
• 15:22
  cares
• 15:22
  about
• 15:22
  themselves
• 15:22
  at
• 15:23
  100%
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  then
• 15:24
  we
• 15:25
  can
• 15:25
  measure
• 15:25
  how
• 15:26
  much
• 15:26
  they
• 15:26
  care
• 15:26
  about
• 15:27
  others
• 15:27
  relative
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  that.
• 15:28
  So
• 15:28
  for
• 15:28
  example,
• 15:29
  we
• 15:29
  find
• 15:29
  people
• 15:30
  care
• 15:30
  about
• 15:30
  their
• 15:30
  neighbors
• 15:31
  about
• 15:31
  60%
• 15:31
  as
• 15:32
  much
• 15:32
  as
• 15:32
  they
• 15:32
  care
• 15:32
  about
• 15:33
  themselves.
• 15:33
  They
• 15:34
  care
• 15:34
  about
• 15:34
  their
• 15:35
  friends
• 15:36
  70,
• 15:37
  80%
• 15:38
  and
• 15:38
  they
• 15:38
  care
• 15:38
  about
• 15:39
  their
• 15:39
  family
• 15:40
  90%
• 15:40
  and
• 15:40
  in
• 15:41
  some
• 15:41
  cases
• 15:41
  more
• 15:41
  than
• 15:41
  100%.
• 15:42
  They
• 15:42
  care
• 15:42
  about
• 15:42
  their
• 15:43
  kids,
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  example,
• 15:43
  more
• 15:44
  than
• 15:44
  they
• 15:44
  care
• 15:44
  about
• 15:44
  themselves.
• 15:45
  So
• 15:46
  with
• 15:46
  all
• 15:46
  of
• 15:46
  that,
• 15:46
  we
• 15:46
  can
• 15:47
  put
• 15:47
  a
• 15:47
  very
• 15:47
  precise
• 15:47
  figure
• 15:48
  on
• 15:48
  how
• 15:48
  kind
• 15:48
  people
• 15:49
  are
• 15:49
  and
• 15:50
  how
• 15:51
  kind
• 15:51
  people
• 15:52
  are
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  different
• 15:52
  people
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  their,
• 15:53
  in
• 15:54
  their
• 15:54
  worlds.
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  want
• 15:56
  to,
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  want
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  kind
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  weigh
• 15:58
  in
• 15:58
  here
• 15:58
  on
• 15:58
  two
• 15:59
  things.
• 15:59
  One
• 15:59
  is
• 16:00
  social
• 16:01
  media,
• 16:01
  which
• 16:02
  may
• 16:02
  not
• 16:03
  be
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  friend
• 16:03
  of
• 16:03
  kindness
• 16:04
  necessarily,
• 16:06
  but
• 16:06
  also
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  personal
• 16:08
  toolbox
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  we
• 16:11
  can
• 16:11
  create
• 16:12
  in
• 16:13
  order
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  have
• 16:14
  access
• 16:14
  to
• 16:15
  tools
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  be
• 16:16
  able
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  be
• 16:17
  kind.
• 16:17
  And
• 16:18
  how
• 16:18
  do
• 16:18
  those
• 16:18
  two
• 16:19
  things,
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  toolbox
• 16:20
  of
• 16:21
  kindness,
• 16:21
  tools
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  social
• 16:23
  media
• 16:23
  intertwine?
• 16:27
  They
• 16:28
  intertwined.
• 16:30
  Maybe
• 16:30
  we'll
• 16:30
  start
• 16:30
  with
• 16:30
  social
• 16:31
  media.
• 16:31
  We
• 16:31
  did
• 16:31
  a
• 16:32
  small
• 16:32
  study
• 16:32
  actually
• 16:33
  looking
• 16:34
  at
• 16:34
  kindness
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  influencers
• 16:36
  and
• 16:37
  what,
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  know,
• 16:37
  could
• 16:38
  we
• 16:38
  discover
• 16:38
  any
• 16:38
  relationship
• 16:39
  there
• 16:39
  with
• 16:40
  impact
• 16:40
  on
• 16:40
  followers
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  well
• 16:41
  being.
• 16:43
  So
• 16:43
  that
• 16:43
  had
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  couple
• 16:44
  interesting
• 16:44
  anecdotes.
• 16:45
  Oliver,
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  don't
• 16:45
  know
• 16:45
  if
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  know
• 16:46
  them
• 16:47
  off
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  cuff,
• 16:48
  otherwise
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  can
• 16:49
  go
• 16:49
  into
• 16:49
  how
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  think
• 16:50
  about
• 16:50
  it
• 16:50
  with
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  toolbox.
• 16:52
  Yeah,
• 16:53
  well,
• 16:53
  I'd
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  to
• 16:54
  hear,
• 16:54
  I'd
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  to
• 16:55
  hear
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  toolbox
• 16:55
  because
• 16:56
  if,
• 16:56
  if
• 16:57
  social
• 16:57
  media.
• 16:58
  And
• 16:58
  I'd
• 16:58
  like
• 16:58
  to
• 16:58
  hear
• 16:59
  your
• 16:59
  anecdotes.
• 17:00
  If
• 17:00
  social
• 17:00
  media
• 17:01
  can
• 17:01
  be
• 17:01
  the
• 17:02
  enemy
• 17:03
  of
• 17:03
  kindness,
• 17:04
  what
• 17:05
  do
• 17:05
  we
• 17:05
  take
• 17:05
  out
• 17:06
  of
• 17:06
  our
• 17:06
  toolbox
• 17:06
  to
• 17:07
  try
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  tweak
• 17:07
  that?
• 17:09
  Well,
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  would
• 17:10
  challenge
• 17:11
  that.
• 17:11
  It
• 17:11
  doesn't
• 17:11
  have
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  be
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  enemy.
• 17:13
  So.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:13
  I
• 17:13
  think
• 17:14
  part
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  toolbox
• 17:14
  is
• 17:15
  you.
• 17:16
  Every
• 17:16
  person
• 17:16
  has
• 17:16
  the
• 17:17
  choice
• 17:17
  of
• 17:17
  what
• 17:18
  they're
• 17:18
  consuming
• 17:19
  and
• 17:19
  how
• 17:19
  they're
• 17:20
  consuming
• 17:20
  it.
• 17:20
  And,
• 17:22
  and
• 17:23
  so
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  start
• 17:23
  with
• 17:23
  that
• 17:24
  toolbox
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  deciding
• 17:25
  and
• 17:25
  being
• 17:25
  intentional
• 17:26
  with
• 17:26
  what
• 17:26
  you're
• 17:26
  surrounding
• 17:27
  yourself
• 17:27
  with.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:28
  if
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  are
• 17:28
  going
• 17:28
  to
• 17:29
  be
• 17:29
  on
• 17:29
  social
• 17:29
  media,
• 17:30
  who
• 17:30
  are
• 17:30
  you
• 17:30
  following,
• 17:31
  you
• 17:32
  know,
• 17:32
  how
• 17:32
  are
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  engaging,
• 17:33
  how
• 17:33
  often
• 17:34
  are
• 17:34
  you
• 17:34
  using
• 17:34
  it
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  impact
• 17:35
  that
• 17:36
  has
• 17:36
  perhaps
• 17:36
  on
• 17:37
  your
• 17:37
  own
• 17:37
  time
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  how
• 17:39
  that
• 17:39
  time
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  taken
• 17:40
  away
• 17:40
  from
• 17:40
  other
• 17:41
  priorities
• 17:41
  in
• 17:42
  your
• 17:42
  life.
• 17:43
  So
• 17:43
  I
• 17:43
  think
• 17:43
  the
• 17:43
  toolbox
• 17:44
  starts
• 17:44
  one
• 17:45
  which
• 17:45
  is
• 17:45
  remembering
• 17:45
  we
• 17:46
  all
• 17:46
  have
• 17:46
  our
• 17:46
  own
• 17:46
  power
• 17:47
  and
• 17:47
  empowerment
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  make
• 17:48
  those
• 17:48
  choices
• 17:49
  for
• 17:49
  ourselves.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:50
  it's
• 17:50
  hard,
• 17:50
  but
• 17:51
  you
• 17:51
  ultimately
• 17:52
  are
• 17:52
  deciding
• 17:52
  that
• 17:53
  for
• 17:53
  yourself.
• 17:53
  Each
• 17:53
  individual,
• 17:54
  everyone
• 17:54
  listening
• 17:55
  here,
• 17:55
  all
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  you
• 17:55
  as
• 17:55
  hosts,
• 17:56
  like
• 17:56
  we're
• 17:57
  all
• 17:57
  waking
• 17:57
  up
• 17:57
  and
• 17:57
  deciding
• 17:58
  what's
• 17:58
  going
• 17:58
  to
• 17:58
  get
• 17:58
  our
• 17:58
  attention,
• 17:59
  what's
• 17:59
  going
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  get
• 17:59
  our
• 17:59
  time.
• 18:00
  And
• 18:01
  yes,
• 18:01
  people
• 18:02
  want
• 18:02
  to
• 18:02
  doom
• 18:02
  scroll
• 18:03
  or
• 18:03
  they
• 18:03
  are
• 18:04
  drawn
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  negative
• 18:05
  headlines.
• 18:05
  That's
• 18:06
  been
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  same
• 18:06
  since
• 18:06
  the
• 18:07
  introduction
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  mass
• 18:07
  communication.
• 18:08
  People
• 18:09
  want
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  know
• 18:09
  the
• 18:10
  bad
• 18:10
  things
• 18:10
  that
• 18:10
  are
• 18:11
  happening.
• 18:11
  But
• 18:12
  we
• 18:12
  are
• 18:12
  actually
• 18:12
  seeing
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  huge
• 18:13
  uptick
• 18:14
  in
• 18:14
  positive
• 18:14
  content
• 18:14
  consumption.
• 18:15
  We're
• 18:16
  seeing
• 18:16
  a
• 18:16
  huge
• 18:16
  uptick
• 18:17
  in
• 18:17
  influencers
• 18:18
  that
• 18:18
  are
• 18:18
  promoting
• 18:19
  goodness
• 18:19
  and
• 18:20
  kindness
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  trying
• 18:20
  to
• 18:21
  tell
• 18:21
  positive
• 18:21
  stories
• 18:22
  and
• 18:22
  much
• 18:23
  more
• 18:23
  significant
• 18:23
  engagement
• 18:24
  and
• 18:24
  traction
• 18:25
  around
• 18:25
  that.
• 18:25
  And
• 18:26
  so
• 18:26
  that's
• 18:26
  showing.
• 18:26
  There's
• 18:27
  an
• 18:27
  appetite,
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  think,
• 18:28
  for
• 18:28
  people
• 18:28
  who
• 18:28
  are
• 18:28
  saying,
• 18:29
  wait,
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  don't
• 18:29
  want
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  be
• 18:30
  consumed
• 18:30
  with
• 18:30
  negative
• 18:31
  news,
• 18:31
  especially
• 18:32
  younger
• 18:32
  generations,
• 18:33
  they're
• 18:33
  very
• 18:34
  conscientious.
• 18:34
  Perhaps
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  fault,
• 18:36
  dare
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  say,
• 18:37
  maybe
• 18:37
  not,
• 18:37
  maybe
• 18:37
  we
• 18:38
  cut
• 18:38
  that,
• 18:38
  but
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  mental
• 18:39
  health.
• 18:39
  You
• 18:40
  know,
• 18:40
  like
• 18:40
  they
• 18:40
  want
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  work
• 18:41
  at
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  place
• 18:41
  where
• 18:41
  they
• 18:41
  get
• 18:41
  mental
• 18:42
  health
• 18:42
  days.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:43
  it's
• 18:43
  like
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  very,
• 18:44
  very
• 18:44
  mainstream
• 18:44
  idea
• 18:45
  that
• 18:45
  we
• 18:45
  should
• 18:46
  be
• 18:46
  caring
• 18:46
  about
• 18:47
  our
• 18:47
  well
• 18:47
  being
• 18:48
  in
• 18:48
  that
• 18:48
  way.
• 18:49
  So
• 18:49
  tool
• 18:50
  belt
• 18:50
  toolbox
• 18:51
  starts
• 18:51
  there.
• 18:52
  In
• 18:52
  addition,
• 18:52
  we
• 18:53
  have
• 18:53
  a
• 18:53
  lot
• 18:53
  of
• 18:53
  resources.org
• 18:55
  where
• 18:55
  you
• 18:55
  can
• 18:55
  become
• 18:56
  educated
• 18:57
  if
• 18:57
  you're
• 18:57
  into
• 18:57
  the
• 18:58
  science,
• 18:58
  you
• 18:58
  can
• 18:58
  become
• 18:59
  inspired
• 18:59
  if
• 19:00
  you
• 19:00
  want
• 19:00
  to
• 19:00
  be
• 19:00
  reminded
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  goodness
• 19:01
  that's
• 19:02
  out
• 19:02
  there
• 19:02
  in
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  world.
• 19:03
  And
• 19:03
  then
• 19:03
  we
• 19:03
  have
• 19:03
  a
• 19:03
  lot
• 19:04
  of
• 19:04
  resources
• 19:04
  of
• 19:04
  how
• 19:04
  to
• 19:05
  bring
• 19:05
  kindness
• 19:05
  more
• 19:05
  thoughtfully
• 19:06
  and
• 19:06
  intentionally
• 19:06
  into
• 19:07
  your
• 19:07
  life.
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  don't
• 19:08
  want
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  throw
• 19:08
  social
• 19:09
  media
• 19:09
  users
• 19:10
  under
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  bus,
• 19:12
  guessing
• 19:12
  there
• 19:12
  are
• 19:12
  more
• 19:13
  kind
• 19:14
  users
• 19:15
  than
• 19:15
  there
• 19:15
  are
• 19:15
  unkind
• 19:16
  users.
• 19:17
  But
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  we
• 19:18
  do
• 19:19
  hear
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  lot
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  people
• 19:20
  say,
• 19:20
  I'm
• 19:21
  getting
• 19:21
  off
• 19:21
  social
• 19:22
  media
• 19:22
  because
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  can't
• 19:23
  handle
• 19:23
  all
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  negativity.
• 19:24
  We
• 19:25
  hear
• 19:25
  people
• 19:25
  say,
• 19:26
  I
• 19:27
  heard
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  just
• 19:27
  yesterday,
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  know,
• 19:28
  encouraging
• 19:29
  people
• 19:29
  to
• 19:30
  go
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  my
• 19:31
  social
• 19:31
  media.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  said,
• 19:31
  well,
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  got
• 19:32
  off
• 19:32
  social
• 19:32
  media
• 19:33
  because
• 19:33
  I
• 19:34
  can't
• 19:34
  handle
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  negativity.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  that
• 19:35
  that's
• 19:36
  where
• 19:36
  in,
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  know,
• 19:37
  the
• 19:38
  lack
• 19:38
  of
• 19:39
  kindness
• 19:39
  can
• 19:39
  lie,
• 19:40
  Right?
• 19:43
  Yes.
• 19:43
  So
• 19:43
  I
• 19:44
  suppose.
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  suppose,
• 19:45
  you
• 19:46
  know,
• 19:46
  my
• 19:46
  question
• 19:46
  is,
• 19:49
  is
• 19:50
  social
• 19:50
  media
• 19:50
  a
• 19:51
  place
• 19:51
  where
• 19:51
  we
• 19:51
  have
• 19:51
  to
• 19:52
  mine
• 19:53
  more
• 19:53
  con.
• 19:54
  More
• 19:54
  kindness
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  more
• 19:56
  positive
• 19:57
  feelings
• 19:58
  and
• 19:58
  work
• 19:58
  at
• 19:59
  it?
• 19:59
  There's
• 20:00
  some
• 20:00
  research
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  suggests
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  people
• 20:02
  are
• 20:02
  basically
• 20:02
  the
• 20:03
  same
• 20:03
  in
• 20:03
  person
• 20:04
  as
• 20:04
  their.
• 20:04
  As
• 20:04
  they
• 20:05
  are
• 20:05
  online.
• 20:05
  So
• 20:06
  if
• 20:06
  they.
• 20:06
  If
• 20:06
  they're
• 20:06
  kind
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  in
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  real
• 20:08
  world,
• 20:08
  they
• 20:08
  tend
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  be
• 20:08
  kind
• 20:09
  online,
• 20:09
  and
• 20:09
  if
• 20:09
  they're
• 20:10
  unkind
• 20:10
  in
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  real
• 20:11
  world,
• 20:11
  they
• 20:11
  tend
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  be
• 20:12
  unkind
• 20:13
  online.
• 20:14
  So
• 20:14
  social
• 20:14
  media
• 20:15
  seems
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  me
• 20:15
  just
• 20:16
  an
• 20:16
  amplification
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  that.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:18
  like
• 20:18
  Jacqueline
• 20:18
  says,
• 20:19
  and
• 20:19
  as
• 20:20
  you
• 20:21
  must
• 20:21
  know
• 20:21
  from
• 20:22
  the
• 20:23
  news
• 20:23
  business,
• 20:23
  you
• 20:23
  know,
• 20:24
  if
• 20:24
  it
• 20:24
  bleeds,
• 20:24
  it
• 20:24
  leads.
• 20:25
  So
• 20:25
  social
• 20:25
  media
• 20:25
  has
• 20:26
  a
• 20:26
  lot
• 20:26
  of
• 20:27
  negative.
• 20:28
  There's
• 20:28
  a
• 20:28
  kind
• 20:28
  of
• 20:29
  negativity
• 20:29
  bias
• 20:29
  in
• 20:30
  general.
• 20:30
  And
• 20:31
  so
• 20:32
  taking
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  break
• 20:33
  from
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  news
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  general,
• 20:34
  including
• 20:34
  on
• 20:34
  social
• 20:34
  media,
• 20:35
  can,
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  think,
• 20:35
  be
• 20:35
  good
• 20:36
  for
• 20:36
  you.
• 20:36
  But
• 20:37
  social
• 20:37
  media
• 20:37
  also
• 20:38
  provides
• 20:39
  opportunities
• 20:40
  to
• 20:40
  influence
• 20:41
  thousands,
• 20:42
  millions
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  people
• 20:45
  with
• 20:45
  an
• 20:45
  inspiring
• 20:46
  story,
• 20:47
  with
• 20:47
  a
• 20:47
  practical
• 20:48
  way
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  helping,
• 20:48
  with
• 20:48
  a
• 20:48
  way
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  following
• 20:50
  or
• 20:50
  boosting
• 20:51
  some
• 20:51
  organization
• 20:52
  or
• 20:52
  charity
• 20:52
  or
• 20:52
  something
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  you
• 20:53
  think
• 20:54
  is
• 20:55
  doing
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  right
• 20:55
  thing.
• 20:56
  So,
• 20:56
  yeah,
• 20:57
  it's
• 20:57
  about
• 20:57
  leaning
• 20:58
  into
• 20:59
  those
• 20:59
  opportunities
• 21:00
  online,
• 21:01
  just
• 21:01
  as
• 21:01
  it
• 21:01
  is
• 21:02
  offline.
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  think
• 21:04
  what
• 21:04
  Hal
• 21:05
  may
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  getting
• 21:05
  at
• 21:05
  is
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  trolls.
• 21:07
  I
• 21:08
  mean,
• 21:09
  you
• 21:10
  recognize
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  people
• 21:12
  are
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  same
• 21:13
  online
• 21:13
  as
• 21:14
  they
• 21:14
  are
• 21:14
  in
• 21:14
  person,
• 21:15
  and
• 21:15
  yet
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  anonymity
• 21:16
  factor
• 21:17
  tends
• 21:18
  to
• 21:18
  amplify
• 21:18
  the
• 21:19
  cruelty
• 21:19
  factor.
• 21:20
  And
• 21:21
  have
• 21:21
  you
• 21:22
  found
• 21:22
  in
• 21:22
  your
• 21:22
  research
• 21:23
  that
• 21:24
  people
• 21:26
  who
• 21:26
  are
• 21:26
  able
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  be
• 21:27
  anonymized
• 21:29
  express
• 21:31
  less
• 21:31
  kindness
• 21:32
  or
• 21:32
  more
• 21:33
  cruelty
• 21:33
  than
• 21:34
  they
• 21:34
  would
• 21:34
  if
• 21:34
  you
• 21:35
  had,
• 21:35
  you
• 21:36
  know,
• 21:36
  their
• 21:36
  names
• 21:36
  and
• 21:37
  faces
• 21:37
  out
• 21:37
  there?
• 21:41
  We
• 21:41
  haven't
• 21:42
  done
• 21:42
  any
• 21:42
  direct
• 21:43
  research
• 21:43
  on
• 21:43
  that
• 21:44
  on
• 21:44
  social
• 21:44
  media,
• 21:44
  but
• 21:45
  the
• 21:45
  previous
• 21:46
  work
• 21:46
  in
• 21:47
  with
• 21:47
  experimental
• 21:48
  games,
• 21:48
  for
• 21:48
  example,
• 21:49
  shows
• 21:49
  that
• 21:50
  anonymity
• 21:51
  can
• 21:51
  have
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  few
• 21:52
  effects.
• 21:53
  So
• 21:53
  if.
• 21:53
  If
• 21:54
  you're
• 21:54
  in
• 21:54
  a.
• 21:54
  If
• 21:54
  you're
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  sharing
• 21:56
  game
• 21:56
  or
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  cooperative
• 21:57
  game
• 21:57
  in
• 21:57
  a
• 21:58
  psychology
• 21:58
  experiment,
• 21:58
  being
• 21:59
  anonymous
• 22:00
  tends
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  make
• 22:01
  people
• 22:01
  cheat
• 22:02
  more
• 22:02
  because
• 22:02
  they
• 22:02
  can
• 22:02
  get
• 22:02
  away
• 22:03
  with
• 22:03
  it.
• 22:04
  In
• 22:04
  other
• 22:05
  games,
• 22:06
  sometimes
• 22:09
  making
• 22:09
  things
• 22:09
  public
• 22:10
  makes
• 22:10
  people
• 22:13
  cooperate
• 22:14
  more
• 22:14
  because
• 22:16
  they
• 22:16
  get
• 22:17
  reputation.
• 22:18
  They're
• 22:18
  signaling
• 22:19
  their
• 22:19
  good
• 22:19
  character
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  others.
• 22:21
  So,
• 22:22
  yeah,
• 22:22
  that
• 22:22
  would
• 22:22
  suggest
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  being
• 22:23
  anonymous
• 22:24
  can
• 22:24
  tend
• 22:24
  to
• 22:25
  bring
• 22:25
  out
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  worst
• 22:25
  in
• 22:25
  people.
• 22:27
  Jacqueline
• 22:27
  mentioned
• 22:28
  earlier
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  idea
• 22:30
  of
• 22:30
  bullying
• 22:31
  and
• 22:32
  kindness
• 22:33
  being
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  antidote
• 22:34
  to
• 22:34
  bullying.
• 22:35
  But
• 22:35
  we
• 22:35
  see
• 22:36
  that
• 22:36
  on
• 22:36
  social
• 22:36
  media.
• 22:37
  We
• 22:37
  see
• 22:37
  people
• 22:37
  bullying
• 22:38
  other
• 22:38
  people.
• 22:39
  And
• 22:40
  maybe
• 22:40
  some
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  that
• 22:41
  is
• 22:41
  underlying
• 22:41
  the
• 22:42
  notion
• 22:42
  that
• 22:43
  maybe
• 22:43
  we
• 22:44
  need
• 22:44
  to
• 22:44
  find
• 22:45
  ways
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  be
• 22:45
  more
• 22:45
  kind
• 22:46
  online.
• 22:48
  Maybe
• 22:48
  that's
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  new
• 22:49
  feature.
• 22:49
  Be
• 22:50
  kind
• 22:50
  online.
• 22:52
  Yeah.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  also,
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  know,
• 22:54
  kindness
• 22:54
  is
• 22:54
  not
• 22:55
  just
• 22:55
  about,
• 22:57
  you
• 22:58
  know,
• 22:58
  infinite,
• 22:59
  indiscriminate
• 23:00
  altruism
• 23:02
  Sometimes
• 23:02
  you
• 23:02
  have
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  be
• 23:03
  cruel
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  be
• 23:03
  kind.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:03
  if
• 23:04
  that
• 23:04
  means
• 23:05
  blocking
• 23:05
  or
• 23:05
  muting
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  trolls,
• 23:07
  if
• 23:07
  that
• 23:07
  means,
• 23:08
  as
• 23:08
  it
• 23:08
  were,
• 23:09
  punishing
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  cheats,
• 23:11
  that's
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  kind
• 23:11
  thing
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  do
• 23:12
  as
• 23:12
  well
• 23:12
  for
• 23:13
  you
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  for
• 23:13
  others.
• 23:14
  Does
• 23:14
  kindness
• 23:15
  and
• 23:16
  doing
• 23:16
  acts
• 23:16
  of
• 23:17
  kindness
• 23:17
  automatically
• 23:18
  equal
• 23:19
  happiness?
• 23:20
  Yes.
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  mean,
• 23:23
  no.
• 23:23
  I
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  gonna
• 23:24
  say
• 23:24
  no.
• 23:24
  Can
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  take
• 23:24
  that
• 23:25
  one?
• 23:25
  Can
• 23:25
  I
• 23:25
  take
• 23:25
  that
• 23:25
  one?
• 23:26
  Because
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  have
• 23:27
  a
• 23:27
  personal
• 23:28
  story
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  I
• 23:29
  wanted
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  share,
• 23:29
  because
• 23:30
  I
• 23:31
  have
• 23:31
  always
• 23:32
  heard
• 23:33
  that
• 23:34
  being
• 23:35
  kind,
• 23:35
  being
• 23:36
  altruistic
• 23:37
  makes
• 23:37
  you
• 23:37
  happier.
• 23:38
  And
• 23:39
  in
• 23:40
  many
• 23:40
  cases,
• 23:40
  I've
• 23:41
  found
• 23:41
  that.
• 23:41
  And
• 23:42
  I've
• 23:42
  done
• 23:42
  volunteer
• 23:43
  activities
• 23:43
  that
• 23:44
  have
• 23:44
  brought
• 23:44
  me
• 23:44
  joy.
• 23:46
  And
• 23:46
  I
• 23:48
  found
• 23:48
  myself
• 23:48
  in
• 23:48
  a
• 23:48
  situation
• 23:49
  with
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  homeless
• 23:50
  woman
• 23:51
  who
• 23:51
  I
• 23:52
  met
• 23:52
  outside
• 23:53
  of
• 23:53
  TJ
• 23:53
  Maxx.
• 23:54
  And
• 23:54
  she
• 23:55
  asked
• 23:55
  me
• 23:55
  for
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  buck
• 23:56
  because
• 23:56
  someone
• 23:56
  had
• 23:57
  stolen
• 23:57
  all
• 23:57
  her
• 23:57
  stuff
• 23:58
  and
• 23:58
  she
• 23:59
  had
• 23:59
  no
• 23:59
  shoes.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  I
• 24:00
  thought,
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  can
• 24:01
  either
• 24:01
  give
• 24:02
  this
• 24:02
  woman
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  dollar
• 24:03
  and
• 24:04
  walk
• 24:04
  away
• 24:05
  and
• 24:05
  know
• 24:06
  that,
• 24:06
  you
• 24:06
  know,
• 24:06
  she
• 24:07
  will
• 24:07
  continue
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  be
• 24:08
  suffering,
• 24:09
  or
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  can
• 24:09
  make
• 24:09
  an
• 24:10
  actual
• 24:10
  difference
• 24:10
  here.
• 24:11
  And
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  took
• 24:11
  her
• 24:11
  in
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  store
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  took
• 24:13
  her
• 24:13
  shopping,
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  I
• 24:13
  got
• 24:14
  her
• 24:15
  shoes
• 24:15
  and
• 24:15
  a
• 24:16
  jacket
• 24:16
  and
• 24:17
  underwear
• 24:18
  and
• 24:19
  personal
• 24:20
  hygiene
• 24:21
  items.
• 24:21
  And
• 24:23
  this
• 24:23
  woman
• 24:23
  was
• 24:24
  challenged.
• 24:25
  I
• 24:25
  mean,
• 24:25
  she
• 24:26
  said
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  she'd
• 24:26
  been
• 24:27
  in
• 24:27
  an
• 24:27
  accident
• 24:27
  and
• 24:27
  she
• 24:28
  had
• 24:28
  some
• 24:28
  brain
• 24:28
  damage.
• 24:29
  And
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  gave
• 24:31
  her
• 24:31
  this
• 24:31
  stuff
• 24:31
  and
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  bag
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  put
• 24:32
  it
• 24:32
  in,
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  I,
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  know,
• 24:33
  got
• 24:33
  her
• 24:34
  con,
• 24:35
  told
• 24:35
  her,
• 24:35
  you
• 24:36
  know,
• 24:36
  to
• 24:36
  stay
• 24:36
  here
• 24:37
  so
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  can
• 24:37
  get
• 24:37
  some
• 24:37
  homeless
• 24:38
  outreach
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  you.
• 24:39
  And
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  felt
• 24:40
  like
• 24:40
  I
• 24:40
  had
• 24:40
  done
• 24:40
  this
• 24:41
  great
• 24:41
  good
• 24:42
  thing,
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  I
• 24:43
  contacted
• 24:43
  homeless
• 24:44
  outreach,
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  they
• 24:44
  went
• 24:45
  out
• 24:45
  there,
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  she
• 24:45
  was
• 24:46
  gone.
• 24:47
  And
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  recognized
• 24:48
  that.
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  felt
• 24:50
  like
• 24:51
  I
• 24:51
  was
• 24:51
  trying
• 24:52
  to
• 24:53
  scoop
• 24:53
  out
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  ocean
• 24:54
  with
• 24:54
  a
• 24:55
  teaspoon.
• 24:56
  And
• 24:56
  it
• 24:57
  did
• 24:57
  not
• 24:57
  fill
• 24:57
  me
• 24:58
  with
• 24:58
  joy.
• 24:58
  It
• 24:58
  filled
• 24:59
  me
• 24:59
  with
• 24:59
  despair.
• 25:01
  So
• 25:02
  how
• 25:02
  do
• 25:02
  you
• 25:03
  assess
• 25:04
  kindness
• 25:04
  when
• 25:05
  there
• 25:05
  is
• 25:06
  so
• 25:06
  much
• 25:06
  need?
• 25:10
  Well,
• 25:10
  that's
• 25:10
  like
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  was
• 25:11
  saying
• 25:11
  before
• 25:11
  about,
• 25:12
  you
• 25:12
  know,
• 25:13
  you.
• 25:13
  You.
• 25:13
  You
• 25:14
  place
• 25:14
  your
• 25:14
  bets.
• 25:15
  And
• 25:15
  not.
• 25:15
  Not
• 25:15
  every
• 25:15
  bet
• 25:16
  is
• 25:16
  going
• 25:16
  to
• 25:16
  pay
• 25:16
  off.
• 25:17
  So,
• 25:19
  you
• 25:19
  know,
• 25:19
  sometimes
• 25:20
  it
• 25:20
  works
• 25:20
  out
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  sometimes
• 25:21
  it
• 25:21
  doesn't.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  have
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  know
• 25:22
  when
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  cut
• 25:23
  your
• 25:23
  losses.
• 25:25
  And
• 25:25
  I
• 25:26
  would
• 25:26
  add
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  that,
• 25:27
  Hunter,
• 25:28
  because
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  truth
• 25:30
  is,
• 25:30
  we
• 25:30
  don't
• 25:30
  know.
• 25:31
  We
• 25:31
  don't
• 25:31
  know
• 25:31
  what
• 25:32
  happens
• 25:32
  after
• 25:32
  our
• 25:32
  kind
• 25:33
  act.
• 25:33
  Sometimes
• 25:34
  we
• 25:34
  don't
• 25:34
  always
• 25:34
  see
• 25:34
  the
• 25:35
  benefit.
• 25:35
  We
• 25:35
  don't
• 25:36
  see
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  end
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  story.
• 25:38
  But
• 25:38
  who
• 25:38
  knows
• 25:39
  what
• 25:39
  that
• 25:39
  did
• 25:39
  for
• 25:39
  her?
• 25:40
  My
• 25:40
  hope
• 25:40
  when
• 25:40
  I
• 25:41
  hear
• 25:41
  that
• 25:41
  story
• 25:42
  is
• 25:42
  maybe
• 25:42
  she
• 25:42
  wasn't
• 25:43
  there,
• 25:44
  but
• 25:44
  that
• 25:44
  did
• 25:45
  something
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  change
• 25:46
  her
• 25:46
  path
• 25:46
  in
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  best
• 25:47
  way
• 25:47
  possible,
• 25:47
  that
• 25:48
  you
• 25:48
  showed
• 25:48
  her
• 25:48
  love
• 25:48
  and
• 25:49
  grace
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  kindness
• 25:50
  when
• 25:50
  she
• 25:50
  most
• 25:50
  needed
• 25:51
  it.
• 25:51
  So
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  would
• 25:52
  just
• 25:52
  encourage
• 25:53
  you.
• 25:53
  You
• 25:53
  know,
• 25:54
  we
• 25:54
  never
• 25:54
  know
• 25:54
  sometimes
• 25:55
  where
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  acts
• 25:55
  could
• 25:56
  go
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  what
• 25:56
  that
• 25:56
  ripple
• 25:57
  effect
• 25:57
  will
• 25:57
  be.
• 25:58
  But
• 25:58
  you
• 25:59
  keep
• 25:59
  trying.
• 25:59
  You
• 25:59
  know,
• 26:00
  we
• 26:00
  keep.
• 26:00
  We
• 26:00
  don't
• 26:00
  want
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  give
• 26:01
  up
• 26:01
  on
• 26:01
  it.
• 26:02
  And
• 26:03
  I
• 26:03
  think,
• 26:03
  you
• 26:04
  know,
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  Elsa's
• 26:04
  question,
• 26:06
  what
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  original
• 26:06
  research
• 26:07
  showed
• 26:07
  that
• 26:07
  we
• 26:07
  did
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  how
• 26:08
  Oliver
• 26:09
  and
• 26:09
  I
• 26:09
  first
• 26:09
  met
• 26:10
  was
• 26:10
  trying
• 26:10
  to
• 26:10
  understand
• 26:11
  what
• 26:11
  doing
• 26:12
  kind
• 26:12
  acts
• 26:12
  does
• 26:13
  for
• 26:13
  our
• 26:13
  own
• 26:13
  happiness.
• 26:14
  And
• 26:14
  it
• 26:15
  shows
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  has
• 26:15
  a
• 26:15
  significant
• 26:16
  effect
• 26:16
  on
• 26:16
  our
• 26:17
  happiness.
• 26:17
  It
• 26:17
  shows
• 26:18
  that
• 26:18
  it's
• 26:18
  making
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  difference
• 26:19
  on
• 26:19
  our.
• 26:19
  On
• 26:19
  our
• 26:19
  happiness.
• 26:21
  Since
• 26:21
  then,
• 26:21
  new
• 26:22
  research
• 26:22
  has
• 26:23
  shown
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  link
• 26:24
  between
• 26:24
  kindness
• 26:25
  and
• 26:25
  societal
• 26:26
  well
• 26:26
  being.
• 26:27
  And
• 26:27
  it's
• 26:28
  considered
• 26:28
  one
• 26:28
  of
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  most
• 26:29
  effective
• 26:29
  ways
• 26:29
  to
• 26:29
  improve
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  well
• 26:30
  being
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  two
• 26:31
  people
• 26:31
  simultaneously.
• 26:33
  Because
• 26:33
  you're
• 26:33
  experiencing
• 26:33
  this
• 26:34
  kind
• 26:34
  act
• 26:34
  together.
• 26:34
  So
• 26:35
  it's.
• 26:35
  It's
• 26:35
  a
• 26:35
  two
• 26:35
  for
• 26:35
  one,
• 26:36
  and
• 26:36
  then
• 26:36
  if
• 26:36
  there's
• 26:37
  someone
• 26:37
  witnessing
• 26:38
  it,
• 26:38
  it's
• 26:38
  a
• 26:38
  three
• 26:38
  for
• 26:39
  one,
• 26:39
  because
• 26:40
  they
• 26:40
  also
• 26:40
  get
• 26:40
  the
• 26:41
  benefit
• 26:41
  of
• 26:41
  seeing
• 26:42
  that
• 26:42
  kind
• 26:42
  act
• 26:42
  take
• 26:42
  place.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  so
• 26:43
  when
• 26:44
  you
• 26:44
  start
• 26:44
  to
• 26:44
  imagine
• 26:45
  just
• 26:45
  what
• 26:45
  one
• 26:45
  single
• 26:46
  act
• 26:46
  can
• 26:46
  do
• 26:47
  for
• 26:47
  all
• 26:47
  of
• 26:47
  us
• 26:47
  and
• 26:48
  all
• 26:48
  of
• 26:48
  our
• 26:48
  individual
• 26:48
  well
• 26:49
  being,
• 26:49
  you
• 26:49
  really
• 26:49
  start
• 26:49
  to
• 26:50
  see
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  power
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  how
• 26:51
  it.
• 26:51
  It
• 26:52
  can
• 26:52
  boost
• 26:52
  happiness.
• 26:52
  Maybe
• 26:53
  not
• 26:53
  always,
• 26:54
  but
• 26:55
  most
• 26:55
  of
• 26:55
  the.
• 26:55
  Time,
• 26:56
  I
• 26:56
  would
• 26:56
  say,
• 26:56
  on
• 26:57
  average.
• 26:58
  On
• 26:58
  average.
• 26:58
  Thank
• 26:59
  you.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 27:00
  Yeah.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  never
• 27:01
  knew
• 27:01
  that
• 27:01
  about
• 27:01
  you,
• 27:02
  Hunter.
• 27:02
  Yeah,
• 27:03
  it's
• 27:03
  a
• 27:03
  beautiful
• 27:03
  story,
• 27:04
  Hunter.
• 27:04
  And,
• 27:04
  yeah,
• 27:05
  I've
• 27:05
  known
• 27:05
  Hunter
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  long
• 27:06
  time.
• 27:06
  I
• 27:06
  never
• 27:07
  knew
• 27:07
  that
• 27:07
  story.
• 27:07
  I
• 27:09
  really
• 27:09
  liked
• 27:10
  that.
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  think
• 27:11
  it
• 27:12
  says
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  lot
• 27:12
  about
• 27:12
  you.
• 27:13
  It's
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  very
• 27:13
  nice
• 27:13
  story.
• 27:16
  It
• 27:17
  was
• 27:17
  just,
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  know,
• 27:18
  something
• 27:18
  I
• 27:19
  don't
• 27:19
  feel
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  need
• 27:19
  to
• 27:20
  share.
• 27:20
  I
• 27:21
  just.
• 27:22
  It
• 27:22
  was.
• 27:22
  It
• 27:23
  was
• 27:23
  a
• 27:23
  moment
• 27:23
  in
• 27:23
  time,
• 27:24
  and
• 27:25
  it
• 27:25
  needed
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  be
• 27:26
  done.
• 27:26
  And
• 27:26
  thank
• 27:26
  you
• 27:27
  for
• 27:27
  making
• 27:27
  me
• 27:27
  feel
• 27:27
  a
• 27:28
  little
• 27:28
  better,
• 27:28
  Jacqueline,
• 27:28
  because
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  just.
• 27:30
  You
• 27:30
  know,
• 27:30
  sometimes
• 27:31
  there's
• 27:31
  just
• 27:31
  so
• 27:32
  much
• 27:32
  need
• 27:32
  out
• 27:32
  there
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  so
• 27:33
  little
• 27:34
  we
• 27:34
  can
• 27:34
  do.
• 27:35
  Yes.
• 27:36
  Yes,
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  course.
• 27:37
  Yeah.
• 27:38
  I'm
• 27:38
  just
• 27:38
  curious.
• 27:39
  I'm
• 27:39
  just
• 27:39
  curious.
• 27:40
  I'm
• 27:40
  sorry.
• 27:40
  Jacqueline,
• 27:42
  before
• 27:43
  you
• 27:43
  really
• 27:44
  got
• 27:44
  engaged
• 27:44
  in
• 27:45
  this.
• 27:45
  This
• 27:45
  organization,
• 27:47
  did
• 27:47
  you
• 27:48
  ever
• 27:48
  do
• 27:48
  anything
• 27:48
  like
• 27:48
  what
• 27:48
  Hunter
• 27:49
  did?
• 27:49
  Did
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  ever
• 27:50
  do
• 27:50
  some
• 27:50
  kind
• 27:51
  of
• 27:51
  act
• 27:51
  of
• 27:52
  kindness
• 27:52
  that
• 27:53
  you'd
• 27:53
  like
• 27:53
  to
• 27:54
  share?
• 27:57
  Oh.
• 27:58
  Oh,
• 27:59
  my
• 27:59
  goodness.
• 28:00
  Put
• 28:00
  you
• 28:01
  on
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  spot
• 28:02
  a
• 28:02
  minute.
• 28:03
  How
• 28:03
  are
• 28:03
  you
• 28:04
  being
• 28:04
  nice
• 28:05
  about
• 28:05
  this?
• 28:05
  Are
• 28:06
  you
• 28:06
  being
• 28:06
  kind
• 28:06
  about
• 28:07
  this?
• 28:07
  Putting
• 28:08
  her
• 28:08
  on
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  spot,
• 28:09
  being
• 28:09
  kind?
• 28:09
  How
• 28:10
  is
• 28:10
  this
• 28:11
  kind
• 28:11
  of
• 28:11
  you?
• 28:11
  You
• 28:12
  know,
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  think.
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  think
• 28:13
  it's.
• 28:13
  I
• 28:13
  think
• 28:13
  it's
• 28:14
  nice,
• 28:14
  and
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  think
• 28:14
  it's
• 28:15
  kind
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  she
• 28:16
  is
• 28:16
  so
• 28:16
  active
• 28:17
  in
• 28:17
  this
• 28:17
  organization.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:19
  I
• 28:19
  think
• 28:19
  sometimes
• 28:20
  we
• 28:20
  do
• 28:21
  things
• 28:21
  because
• 28:21
  of
• 28:22
  motivations,
• 28:22
  and
• 28:23
  she
• 28:23
  mentioned
• 28:23
  things
• 28:24
  like
• 28:24
  bullying,
• 28:24
  and
• 28:25
  she
• 28:25
  mentioned
• 28:25
  things
• 28:25
  that,
• 28:26
  you
• 28:26
  know,
• 28:26
  were
• 28:27
  troublesome,
• 28:27
  and
• 28:28
  I
• 28:28
  just
• 28:28
  sort
• 28:28
  of
• 28:28
  wondered
• 28:29
  if
• 28:29
  she
• 28:29
  had
• 28:29
  done
• 28:29
  anything.
• 28:30
  I.
• 28:30
  You
• 28:30
  know,
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  only
• 28:31
  thing
• 28:32
  I'VE
• 28:32
  done
• 28:32
  a
• 28:32
  couple
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  things
• 28:33
  in
• 28:34
  time,
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  know,
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  try
• 28:36
  to
• 28:36
  help
• 28:36
  other
• 28:37
  people.
• 28:38
  But,
• 28:39
  you
• 28:39
  know,
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  dare
• 28:40
  say
• 28:41
  if
• 28:41
  we
• 28:41
  went
• 28:41
  out
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  did
• 28:42
  a
• 28:42
  little
• 28:42
  man
• 28:42
  on
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  street
• 28:43
  or
• 28:43
  woman
• 28:43
  on
• 28:44
  the
• 28:44
  street
• 28:44
  and
• 28:44
  asked
• 28:44
  people,
• 28:45
  what
• 28:45
  have
• 28:45
  you
• 28:46
  done
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  help
• 28:47
  somebody
• 28:48
  else?
• 28:49
  Might
• 28:49
  get
• 28:50
  some
• 28:50
  interesting
• 28:50
  answers.
• 28:51
  Might
• 28:52
  not.
• 28:52
  That
• 28:52
  might
• 28:52
  be
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  good
• 28:53
  project,
• 28:53
  actually
• 28:54
  a
• 28:55
  project
• 28:55
  kind
• 28:56
  and
• 28:56
  just
• 28:56
  get
• 28:57
  people,
• 28:57
  you
• 28:57
  know,
• 28:58
  telling
• 28:58
  their
• 28:58
  stories
• 28:58
  of
• 28:58
  kindness
• 28:59
  and,
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  think
• 29:01
  we're
• 29:01
  onto
• 29:01
  something
• 29:01
  here.
• 29:02
  But
• 29:02
  one,
• 29:03
  one
• 29:04
  more
• 29:04
  thing,
• 29:04
  Hal,
• 29:04
  I
• 29:05
  wanted
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  add
• 29:05
  for
• 29:05
  our
• 29:06
  next
• 29:06
  podcast,
• 29:08
  but
• 29:08
  you,
• 29:08
  you
• 29:08
  mentioned
• 29:09
  something
• 29:09
  about,
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  know,
• 29:10
  people.
• 29:12
  There's
• 29:13
  a
• 29:13
  lot
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  talk
• 29:13
  about
• 29:14
  virtue
• 29:14
  signaling,
• 29:15
  especially
• 29:15
  in
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  climate
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  we're
• 29:16
  in
• 29:17
  politically
• 29:17
  here
• 29:17
  in
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  United
• 29:18
  States.
• 29:19
  And
• 29:20
  you
• 29:20
  know,
• 29:21
  how
• 29:21
  do
• 29:21
  you.
• 29:22
  Sometimes
• 29:22
  I
• 29:23
  feel
• 29:23
  like
• 29:23
  you
• 29:23
  can't
• 29:24
  win
• 29:24
  for
• 29:24
  losing
• 29:24
  because
• 29:25
  you
• 29:25
  do
• 29:25
  something
• 29:26
  kind
• 29:26
  or
• 29:26
  you
• 29:27
  say
• 29:27
  something
• 29:27
  kind
• 29:28
  online,
• 29:29
  on
• 29:29
  social
• 29:30
  media,
• 29:30
  or
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  do
• 29:31
  something
• 29:31
  kind
• 29:31
  and
• 29:32
  somebody
• 29:32
  accuses
• 29:32
  you
• 29:33
  of
• 29:33
  virtue
• 29:33
  signaling
• 29:34
  when
• 29:35
  you
• 29:35
  know,
• 29:36
  you're
• 29:36
  just
• 29:37
  being
• 29:37
  nice,
• 29:38
  your
• 29:38
  motivation
• 29:39
  is.
• 29:39
  Or
• 29:39
  being
• 29:39
  kind,
• 29:40
  your
• 29:40
  motivation
• 29:41
  is
• 29:41
  truly
• 29:41
  to
• 29:42
  help
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  just
• 29:42
  put
• 29:42
  a
• 29:43
  smile
• 29:43
  on
• 29:43
  someone
• 29:43
  else's
• 29:44
  face
• 29:44
  and
• 29:45
  know
• 29:45
  you
• 29:45
  made
• 29:45
  a
• 29:46
  difference.
• 29:47
  How
• 29:47
  do
• 29:47
  you
• 29:48
  make
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  distinction
• 29:49
  between
• 29:49
  those
• 29:50
  two
• 29:50
  things?
• 29:52
  Well,
• 29:53
  you
• 29:54
  know,
• 29:54
  we
• 29:54
  got
• 29:55
  what,
• 29:55
  8
• 29:55
  billion
• 29:55
  plus
• 29:56
  people
• 29:56
  now
• 29:56
  in
• 29:56
  the
• 29:57
  world,
• 29:57
  and
• 29:57
  I
• 29:58
  really
• 29:58
  like
• 29:58
  to
• 29:59
  say
• 29:59
  we're
• 29:59
  not
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  kindness
• 30:00
  police.
• 30:00
  So
• 30:00
  I
• 30:01
  am
• 30:01
  not
• 30:01
  here
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  determine
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  intent
• 30:03
  of
• 30:04
  someone's
• 30:04
  kindness.
• 30:05
  You
• 30:05
  know,
• 30:05
  we
• 30:05
  need
• 30:06
  kindness
• 30:06
  police,
• 30:07
  though.
• 30:08
  No,
• 30:10
  at
• 30:10
  this
• 30:10
  point,
• 30:10
  we
• 30:10
  need
• 30:11
  them.
• 30:12
  Well,
• 30:12
  okay,
• 30:13
  so,
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  know,
• 30:14
  in
• 30:14
  somewhat
• 30:14
  related
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  how
• 30:15
  what
• 30:16
  you
• 30:16
  said,
• 30:17
  there's
• 30:17
  a
• 30:17
  lot
• 30:17
  of
• 30:18
  influencers
• 30:19
  that
• 30:20
  are
• 30:20
  making
• 30:20
  a
• 30:21
  lot
• 30:21
  of
• 30:21
  money
• 30:21
  off
• 30:22
  of
• 30:22
  doing
• 30:22
  kind
• 30:22
  acts.
• 30:23
  So
• 30:23
  in
• 30:24
  a
• 30:24
  way,
• 30:25
  there's
• 30:25
  an
• 30:25
  argument
• 30:26
  that
• 30:26
  they're
• 30:26
  being
• 30:26
  exploitive
• 30:27
  by,
• 30:28
  you
• 30:28
  know,
• 30:28
  they
• 30:29
  go
• 30:29
  up
• 30:29
  and
• 30:29
  help
• 30:29
  someone
• 30:29
  who's
• 30:30
  homeless,
• 30:30
  but
• 30:30
  they're
• 30:31
  filming
• 30:31
  themselves
• 30:32
  helping
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  person
• 30:33
  who's.
• 30:34
  And
• 30:34
  then
• 30:34
  they're
• 30:35
  making
• 30:35
  money
• 30:35
  because
• 30:36
  it
• 30:36
  goes
• 30:36
  viral
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  everyone,
• 30:37
  you
• 30:37
  know,
• 30:38
  wants
• 30:38
  to
• 30:38
  be
• 30:38
  involved
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  help.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:40
  so
• 30:40
  when
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  look
• 30:41
  at
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  whole
• 30:41
  thing,
• 30:41
  and
• 30:42
  again,
• 30:42
  I,
• 30:42
  I'm
• 30:43
  not
• 30:43
  policing
• 30:43
  it
• 30:44
  because
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  can't,
• 30:44
  but
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  have
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  know
• 30:45
  kindness.org
• 30:46
  position
• 30:46
  within
• 30:46
  this
• 30:47
  because
• 30:47
  it
• 30:47
  is
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  great
• 30:47
  question.
• 30:49
  I
• 30:49
  don't
• 30:50
  know
• 30:50
  that
• 30:50
  person's
• 30:50
  heart
• 30:51
  or
• 30:51
  intention.
• 30:51
  I
• 30:52
  don't
• 30:52
  know
• 30:52
  why
• 30:52
  they're
• 30:53
  doing
• 30:53
  it.
• 30:53
  Is
• 30:53
  it
• 30:53
  to
• 30:53
  make
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  dollar?
• 30:54
  Is
• 30:54
  it
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  really
• 30:54
  help
• 30:55
  that
• 30:55
  person?
• 30:55
  I
• 30:56
  mean,
• 30:56
  we,
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  think,
• 30:57
  can
• 30:57
  all
• 30:57
  agree
• 30:57
  Hunter's
• 30:58
  heart
• 30:58
  was
• 30:58
  very
• 30:58
  pure
• 30:59
  that
• 30:59
  day
• 30:59
  that
• 30:59
  she
• 30:59
  helped.
• 31:00
  She
• 31:00
  wasn't
• 31:00
  doing
• 31:00
  it
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  make
• 31:01
  anything
• 31:02
  off
• 31:02
  of
• 31:02
  it.
• 31:03
  And
• 31:03
  that's
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  real
• 31:04
  experience.
• 31:06
  But
• 31:06
  who
• 31:06
  knows
• 31:07
  now
• 31:07
  what
• 31:07
  will
• 31:08
  happen
• 31:08
  because
• 31:08
  millions
• 31:09
  of
• 31:09
  people
• 31:09
  have
• 31:09
  seen
• 31:10
  this
• 31:10
  and
• 31:10
  how
• 31:10
  they
• 31:10
  might
• 31:11
  be
• 31:11
  inspired
• 31:11
  to
• 31:12
  go
• 31:12
  do
• 31:12
  something
• 31:12
  different.
• 31:13
  And
• 31:14
  so
• 31:14
  instead
• 31:15
  of
• 31:15
  focusing
• 31:15
  on
• 31:15
  their
• 31:16
  why
• 31:16
  or
• 31:16
  virtue,
• 31:17
  you
• 31:17
  know,
• 31:18
  because
• 31:18
  we
• 31:18
  won't
• 31:18
  know.
• 31:19
  You
• 31:19
  can't
• 31:19
  really
• 31:19
  ever
• 31:19
  know
• 31:20
  someone's
• 31:20
  intention.
• 31:21
  Try
• 31:21
  to
• 31:22
  believe
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  best
• 31:22
  as
• 31:23
  much
• 31:23
  as
• 31:23
  you
• 31:23
  can,
• 31:23
  not
• 31:23
  in
• 31:24
  a
• 31:24
  naive
• 31:24
  way,
• 31:24
  but
• 31:25
  try
• 31:25
  to
• 31:25
  give
• 31:25
  benefit
• 31:25
  of
• 31:26
  the
• 31:26
  doubt
• 31:26
  and
• 31:27
  everyone.
• 31:27
  Again,
• 31:27
  you're
• 31:28
  in
• 31:28
  charge
• 31:28
  of
• 31:28
  your
• 31:28
  own
• 31:29
  self,
• 31:29
  so
• 31:29
  just
• 31:30
  focus
• 31:30
  on
• 31:30
  you.
• 31:30
  We
• 31:31
  can't
• 31:31
  control
• 31:31
  the
• 31:31
  external
• 31:32
  circumstances,
• 31:33
  so
• 31:33
  it's
• 31:34
  almost
• 31:34
  like
• 31:34
  wasted
• 31:34
  energy.
• 31:35
  If
• 31:35
  I
• 31:35
  try
• 31:35
  to
• 31:35
  figure
• 31:36
  out
• 31:36
  everyone's
• 31:36
  why
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  what
• 31:37
  we
• 31:38
  can
• 31:38
  do
• 31:38
  about
• 31:38
  it,
• 31:38
  all
• 31:39
  we
• 31:39
  can
• 31:39
  do
• 31:39
  is
• 31:39
  continue
• 31:39
  to
• 31:40
  encourage
• 31:40
  the
• 31:40
  behaviors,
• 31:41
  promote
• 31:42
  it
• 31:42
  the
• 31:42
  best
• 31:42
  we
• 31:42
  can.
• 31:43
  Hope
• 31:43
  that
• 31:43
  people
• 31:43
  are
• 31:44
  willing
• 31:44
  to
• 31:44
  get
• 31:44
  out
• 31:44
  there
• 31:44
  and
• 31:44
  try
• 31:45
  those
• 31:45
  kind
• 31:45
  acts
• 31:46
  and
• 31:46
  believe
• 31:46
  that
• 31:46
  every
• 31:46
  single
• 31:47
  one
• 31:47
  has
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  possibility
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  make
• 31:48
  a
• 31:48
  really
• 31:48
  significant
• 31:49
  difference.
• 31:51
  Well,
• 31:51
  we're
• 31:51
  just
• 31:51
  about
• 31:52
  here,
• 31:52
  you
• 31:53
  know.
• 31:53
  Go
• 31:53
  ahead.
• 31:53
  Go
• 31:54
  ahead,
• 31:54
  Oliver.
• 31:54
  We'll
• 31:55
  wrap
• 31:55
  it
• 31:55
  up
• 31:55
  with
• 31:55
  you.
• 31:55
  I
• 31:55
  was
• 31:55
  going
• 31:55
  to
• 31:56
  say,
• 31:56
  I
• 31:56
  think
• 31:56
  virtue
• 31:57
  signaling
• 31:57
  gets
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  bad
• 31:58
  rap.
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  mean,
• 31:58
  as
• 31:58
  long
• 31:59
  as
• 31:59
  you're
• 32:00
  walking
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  walk
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  not
• 32:01
  just
• 32:01
  talking
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  talk,
• 32:01
  then
• 32:02
  if
• 32:02
  it's
• 32:02
  genuine
• 32:03
  virtue,
• 32:03
  then
• 32:03
  it's
• 32:03
  good
• 32:03
  to
• 32:04
  signal
• 32:04
  it.
• 32:05
  It's
• 32:05
  good
• 32:05
  to
• 32:06
  raise
• 32:06
  expectations.
• 32:07
  It's
• 32:07
  good
• 32:07
  to
• 32:08
  lead
• 32:08
  by
• 32:08
  example.
• 32:10
  So
• 32:11
  I'm
• 32:11
  all
• 32:11
  for
• 32:11
  it.
• 32:13
  That's
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  great
• 32:13
  note
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  end
• 32:14
  on.
• 32:14
  I
• 32:14
  mean,
• 32:15
  where
• 32:15
  do
• 32:15
  I
• 32:16
  get
• 32:16
  my
• 32:16
  bumper
• 32:16
  sticker
• 32:17
  that
• 32:17
  says,
• 32:17
  be
• 32:18
  kind,
• 32:18
  push
• 32:18
  it
• 32:19
  forward?
• 32:20
  You
• 32:20
  know,
• 32:21
  I
• 32:21
  feel
• 32:21
  like
• 32:22
  there's
• 32:22
  some
• 32:22
  merch
• 32:22
  needed
• 32:23
  here.
• 32:23
  Create
• 32:23
  it.
• 32:24
  You're
• 32:24
  very
• 32:25
  creative.
• 32:25
  Sure.
• 32:26
  You
• 32:26
  know,
• 32:26
  I'm
• 32:27
  very
• 32:29
  moved
• 32:29
  by
• 32:29
  this.
• 32:29
  I
• 32:30
  think
• 32:30
  it
• 32:30
  was
• 32:30
  a
• 32:31
  great
• 32:31
  conversation.
• 32:32
  I.
• 32:32
  I
• 32:33
  like
• 32:33
  the
• 32:33
  idea
• 32:33
  of
• 32:34
  positivity.
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  don't
• 32:35
  think
• 32:35
  there's
• 32:35
  enough
• 32:36
  of
• 32:36
  it
• 32:37
  in
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  world
• 32:38
  or
• 32:38
  in
• 32:38
  each
• 32:38
  day.
• 32:39
  And
• 32:40
  so,
• 32:40
  you
• 32:40
  know,
• 32:41
  it's
• 32:41
  nice
• 32:41
  what
• 32:41
  you're
• 32:42
  doing
• 32:42
  and
• 32:42
  kind
• 32:42
  what
• 32:43
  you're
• 32:43
  doing.
• 32:43
  And
• 32:45
  on
• 32:45
  that
• 32:45
  note,
• 32:46
  thank
• 32:47
  you
• 32:47
  so
• 32:47
  much
• 32:47
  for
• 32:47
  joining
• 32:47
  us.
• 32:48
  And
• 32:49
  Oliver,
• 32:50
  I
• 32:50
  know
• 32:50
  you're
• 32:50
  in
• 32:50
  England
• 32:52
  and
• 32:53
  Jacqueline,
• 32:54
  you're
• 32:54
  in
• 32:54
  Florida.
• 32:55
  We're
• 32:55
  in
• 32:55
  California.
• 32:56
  And
• 32:57
  so
• 32:57
  we
• 32:57
  can
• 32:57
  all
• 32:58
  be
• 32:58
  kind
• 32:59
  everywhere,
• 33:00
  right?
• 33:01
  Yes,
• 33:02
  everywhere.
• 33:03
  Jac.
• 33:04
  The
• 33:04
  name
• 33:04
  of
• 33:04
  the
• 33:05
  organization
• 33:05
  is
• 33:06
  kindness.org
• 33:08
  or.
• 33:08
  Yes,
• 33:09
  follow
• 33:09
  us
• 33:09
  on
• 33:10
  social.
• 33:10
  We're
• 33:11
  good.
• 33:11
  We're
• 33:11
  kind.
• 33:12
  Take.
• 33:13
  Take
• 33:13
  the
• 33:13
  kq.
• 33:14
  Get
• 33:14
  some
• 33:14
  recommended
• 33:15
  acts
• 33:15
  of
• 33:15
  kindness.
• 33:16
  It's
• 33:16
  all
• 33:16
  there.
• 33:19
  Amen.
• 33:20
  Very
• 33:20
  good.
• 33:21
  Thank
• 33:21
  you.
• 33:21
  Thank
• 33:21
  you
• 33:21
  both.
• 33:22
  All
• 33:22
  right,
• 33:22
  Cherry.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:24
  that's
• 33:24
  what
• 33:24
  the
• 33:25
  how
• 33:25
  2.0.
• 33:26
  I'm
• 33:26
  how
• 33:27
  Eisner
• 33:27
  along
• 33:27
  with
• 33:27
  Elsa
• 33:28
  Ramone
• 33:28
  and
• 33:28
  Hunter
• 33:29
  Lowry.
• 33:29
  This
• 33:29
  podcast
• 33:30
  is
• 33:31
  produced
• 33:31
  by
• 33:31
  Hunter.
• 33:32
  Jamie
• 33:32
  Knapp
• 33:32
  is
• 33:33
  our
• 33:33
  technical
• 33:33
  director
• 33:34
  editor,
• 33:34
  and
• 33:35
  he
• 33:35
  handles
• 33:35
  all
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