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The biblical history of the Jews · UK Column Radio

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An observation that I've made is that there is definitely an
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increase in people randomly just hating Jews.
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And I think that's not a good place to be just hating because
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I know good Muslims and I know good Jews and they're, they're
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decent people. Yes.
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And, and I'm, I'm not going to dispute the fact that you may
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have had pleasant experiences with certain Jews, certain
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Muslims, but there's an intrinsic nature in men that is
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not common amongst all races, so to speak, or all men.
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And, and there are intrinsic characteristics which are part
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of our fabric that express themselves in every generation.
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Now it may not express themselves in all of us, or in
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all Germans or all Swedes or all Jews or whatever, but it does
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hold from generation to generation, these certain
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behavioural characteristics. You can see that if you look at
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if you look at, say, for example, black people over
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overall, they tend to be better athletes than, say, Asians, who
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tend to overall be better at technological thinking.
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They can be good at certain types of technological thinking,
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but they don't really develop next levels of technology.
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They don't. They haven't.
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Characteristically, they haven't.
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You can give an Asian ace an iron sword and show him how to
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make iron, and he could reproduce that 10 billion times,
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but he never changed that iron into a rifle.
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He never went to that next level without Western intervention.
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I believe that society and culture are racial constructs.
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The the mainstream thinking is that race is a cultural
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construct or race is a societal construct.
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But no, the opposite is true wherever you take Africans.
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When I say Africans in this sense, I mean non westernised,
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not American Negroes. American Negroes have had 400
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years of experience living under basically the rule of Europeans.
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Even today they're still living under the rule of Europeans.
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They're living by laws and and customs that come from European
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culture and they've been more or less compelled to do so by the
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rule of law. So if you take Africans and
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plant them anywhere on the planet, they're going to
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reproduce as best they can with the natural resources.
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They're going to reproduce the same culture and society they
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had in Africa that they're not going to be able to do any
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differently. You could take them and put them
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on Jupiter and they would do the same thing.
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They would reproduce the culture and society that they had in
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Africa. White men have gone all over the
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world and established wonderful civilizations.
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Australia, New Zealand, it doesn't matter where we are, we
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reproduce Western culture. What we perceive is what
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culture. Yeah, it's the white people who
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bought South Africa, essentially.
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I wish that you could go to China, go to the inner cities,
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see how they are. And I've never been there, but
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I've seen plenty of videos. But I had been on the streets of
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Chinatown in New York City for a significant number of hours in
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my younger life. And I would bet that you would
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see the same thing that you see in China because the Chinese,
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wherever they go, that's what they reproduce.
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We can't homogenise our cultures.
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There's always going to be resistance because we have a a
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natural intrinsic character that we are blessed with that allows
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us to establish this. And they don't have it.
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They have a different intrinsic nature that they can't build
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this on their own. They can only build it with
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Western intervention. That's why these beautiful Arab
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cities that we see, these wonderful skyscrapers and things
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that we're building are built by German engineers.
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They hired German engineering firms to build those things.
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They don't do it themselves if you took those Arabs.
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Did you know that all the all the water, all the sort of water
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construction that's going on in Dubai is built effectively by
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Dutch engineers? Yes, Well, well, that's German
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enough. I mean, they're Dutch.
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Yes, I understand that. I understand the divisions
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between the people who called Dutch and the people called
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Germans. But Dutch is just Deutsch to me.
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It's just German that they were Germanic people.
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They have the same essential ancient origins.
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I wanted to actually ask you, William, to explain to me the
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history of Jews because part of this October 7 narrative is
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largely about this, the modern state of Israel fulfilling what
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the Bible says. And I don't see that in the
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Bible. I've got an interlinear Bible
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that doesn't use the word Jew or Judaism once.
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It shouldn't ever. Jews should never be in the
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Bible. I know this confuses many
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people. I know there were hundreds and
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hundreds of comments on on the last the last discussion we had
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had on UK column some I tried to answer but it was just rabbit
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holes. Rabbit holes.
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I don't I'm sorry, I don't remember if I, I engaged with
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several people on your comments. No, your comments on that
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ukcolumn.org, the comments that that generated, I read that and
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I'm like, there's no way I'm getting involved with this.
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These same people are going back and forth for days and days and
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I'm like, no, no, this is a time sink.
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I'm not getting involved. I basically had a similar
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discussion with James Delling Poll, and I did get involved in
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the comments. They were a little more rational
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on that particular discussion at the time I engaged in it.
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And that was a time sink because people look at Scripture and
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history from an emotional basis instead of looking objectively
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and plainly. These Jews, these modern Jews
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base their claims to Palestine on promises made to this
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gentleman called Abraham, which were made almost 4000 years ago.
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These promises that his descendants would inherit this
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land and keep it forever and and this land.
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By that I mean what might be called Eretz Israel by Jews
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today. It's from the river of Egypt to
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the Euphrates River and from from the sea to the Euphrates
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River. It's that entire area which
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would include most of modern Syria and all of ancient Judea
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and and Jordan and several other smaller nations.
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So they claim they have a right to this land based on the
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promises to Abraham. Those promises to Abraham were
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passed down to Isaac. Ishmael was excluded.
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And then very explicitly in Scripture, those promises were
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passed from Isaac to Jacob, and Esau was excluded, was totally
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excluded. And Abraham had other sons from
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Katora who were excluded. So only Jacob inherited these
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promises. And in the book of Isaiah, in
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the prophecy of Isaiah, there's something prophecy called the
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controversy of Zeon. And because of the controversy
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of Zeon, Yahweh would have wrath against Esau Edom, whom he
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called in that chapter. I believe it's Isaiah chapter
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35. Perhaps.
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I'm going to look it up real quick.
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Isaiah chapter 34 it starts at well, it really starts at about
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verse one of that chapter, Isaiah chapter 34 for the day of
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Yahweh's vengeance and the year of the recompenses for the
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controversy of Zion. And that is how his wrath
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against Edumia, the people of his curse, that's what they're
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called in that chapter. That's how his wrath is, is
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quantified, that it's his vengeance for the controversy of
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Zenon. Why is that?
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We have to put that in, in the back of our heads.
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I believe in Malachi. There is also basically a
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prophecy that Esau Edom would come and rebuild the waste
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places, the desolate places. Historically those must be the
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places that are left desolate by the Romans where Christ had told
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his enemies, your house is left to you desolate.
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And within the next 100 years it was desolated by by Rome and all
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of the people of Judea were who were practising Judaism were
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expelled from Jerusalem at that time.
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So. Hang on, hang on, hang on, you
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said practising Judaism at that time.
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That would then suggest, William, that Judaism did exist
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at that time. But wasn't it formalised
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centuries after Christ in Eastern Europe?
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Yes, but what is Judaism? Judaism is not the religion.
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It's obviously not the same view of scripture that Christ and his
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apostles had. Why is it that Edom Esau would
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come and rebuild the desolate places in Malachi from the time
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of Malachi forward? Malachi was a prophet of the
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Second temple period. The second temple was already
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built. There was only one episode in
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history which could have made that land desolate, and that
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would have been the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and
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Judea which began in 65AD. It didn't end in 65 to 70 AD.
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It didn't end until the the after the the Ketos War in the
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second decade of the 1st century AD of the 2nd century AD about
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120 something AD, and then the Barkhoppa Revolt in 130
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something AD. Or I might have those two events
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in the wrong order, but that's when it finally ended.
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So it took 60 or 70 years to make Jerusalem and Judea
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desolate, and that's the only time in history it was made
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desolate. From that biblical perspective,
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Edam would return to rebuild it. According to the prophet
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Malachi. This is only understood by the
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fact that the Judeans of all the people of the tribe of Judah
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that went into captivity. Now many of them went into
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Assyrian captivity. At least as many as went into
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Babylonian captivity. Many of them went into Assyrian
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captivity in the days of Sennacherib, the king of
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Assyria, about seven O 1 BC, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem
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remained and they spread back into the countryside, but they
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went into Babylonian captivity. The survivors after Jerusalem
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was destroyed by the Babylonians in 585 BC and in the five 20s
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BC, the late five 20s BC, only 42,000 of them returned and
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rebuilt the temple. And the temple was rebuilt by
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516 BC by those 42,000 people that are listed in the books of
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Ezra and Nehemiah. They're both recounting the same
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event under Zerubbabel to rebuild the temple.
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They didn't build a 40 year temple.
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They built A5 year temple. It was done in five years
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according to those same books. So those 42,000 people probably
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increased in numbers, but they never had a lot of territory
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because the Edomites had taken over much of the former
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territory of Judea. This is spelled out in the pages
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of Flavius Josephus. It's also indicated in Ezekiel
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chapter 35 and when John Hurtkanis became king of
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Jerusalem. Jerusalem was quite powerful and
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very well organised and they were able to defeat city after
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city in Judea. The books usually stop by
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referring to John Hurtkanis in his light.
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He took Dor and Marissa and forcibly converted all the
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inhabitants who were Edomites, as Josephus explains.
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He converted them all into what By then, at that time we could
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start to call Judaism, because I'm going to insist, and Judaism
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was the the, the Greek word for the religion at the time.
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It wasn't necessarily the word that the people of Juda used,
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but we don't have many of their writings.
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The word Judaism does not appear in the in the Septuagint, which
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those people did produce. Yeah, it doesn't appear in mine.
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It doesn't appear anywhere in my.
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In my I've got the TS 2009 into linear and it doesn't appear
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anywhere at all from Genesis to Revelations.
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Right. So when I think of Judaism, I
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think of the corrupted form of Hebrewism that began with the
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days of John Hakanis because the Edomites were cursed.
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I know what it says in Deuteronomy 23 seven, that thou
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shalt not abhorrent Edomite, but I want to insist that it should
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not say that and I can explain that.
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It's a 10 minute explanation if you want it.
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Maybe I could do it in six or seven, but in Isaiah chapter 34,
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the Edomites are called the people of my curse in the words
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of God. And in Malachi, I loved Jacob
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and I hated Esau in the words of God.
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This is God saying these things. If you're a Christian, you have
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to understand that if God says the Edomites are the people of
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his curse, you have to respect that, otherwise you're not a
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Christian. Paul of Tarsus, a Christian,
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repeated that clause in Malachi I Jacob I've loved and Esau I've
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hated in Romans Chapter 9. So Paul of Tarsus upheld those
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words. Paul of Tarsus also paraphrased
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from this Isaiah chapter 34, but he he didn't quote it ex
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verbatim so he would also uphold that chapter.
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The words of God, if we believe God, do not fail.
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How we interpret them fails very often.
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In the Hebrew language there's 2 letters Dayleath and Resh D&R
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and they are very often confused.
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I've documented on my websites a lot of that confusion.
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I've also documented throughout my biblical commentaries on the
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Old Testament where those two letters were confused in many
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places. So if we have a, if we had the
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word Edom in Hebrew it's spelled Aleph which is a or E depending
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on how we feel like transliterating it, and then
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dalep which is the D and then mem which is an M So it's Adm.
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But the word aram, which is always translated as Syrian Aram
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is ARM Alep, Reshma M. And very often that DNETR are
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confused. So in Deuteronomy, in
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Deuteronomy chapter 29, I believe it is, we had this
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statement, I'm sorry, chapter 26, we had this statement.
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And this is God speaking through Moses to the children of Israel.
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And thou shalt speak and say before Yahweh, thy God, a Syrian
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ready to perish was my father. And he went down into Egypt and
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sojourned there with a few and became there a nation, great,
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mighty and populace. So there we see a reason why the
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Israelites should have respect for Syrians and the Israelites
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should have respect for Egyptians.
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Now we should go back to 23 seven Deuteronomy chapter 23
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verse 7 where it says thou shalt not abhorrent Edomite and
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understand that that's in conflict with the rest of
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Scripture. It's in conflict with Isaiah
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chapter 34. It's in conflict with Malachi
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chapter 4. It's in conflict with Romans
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Chapter 9, and it's in conflict with other scriptures.
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If we amend that to Aram instead of Edom, it agrees with
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Deuteronomy chapter 26, Thou shalt not abhor Assyrian.
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And that's how I would insist on reading that.
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And I could point out probably a dozen places, at least 7 or 8,
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where those two words Aram and Edom have been confused in the
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past. And this in in Scripture.
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And this is documented in detail at Christogenia.
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So First Chronicles chapter 13, there's a man called Obel Idam.
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And in the Septuagint there are passages where the same word is
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transliterated as Abed Arab. So there we see Edaman Arab
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confusion in other places in in Genesis chapter 10 there's a
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riffath and in the cephalogen it's dithath it it's AD and
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there's a rhodanum and in the cephalogen it's dodanum and it's
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AD or vice versa. So these letters are confused
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very often. Significantly in First Kings
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Chapter 11 where the context is very clearly a reference to
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Edom, Heydad is described as an Edomite who became an adversary
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of Solomon. But then in Chapter 11 verse 25,
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the King James Version states this is First Kings Chapter 11,
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verse 25, that Heydad abhorred Israel and reigned over Syria
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instead of Edom because they confused the D and ER in that
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passage. First Kings Chapter 11, read
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from the verses 14 through 21 and then see verse 25 and you'll
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see that confusion between the D and ER because hey, dad ruled
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Edom, he didn't rule Syria. So those words are compute.
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Those letters are confused every often, actually hundreds of
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times in Scripture, and sometimes it has great
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significance. I'd like to give an example of
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that significance. I believe it's it.
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It's in Malachi chapter 4. OK, in Malachi chapter 4, verse
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one, there's a phrase that says and all the proud.
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And if you look in the Septuagint, that same phrase
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says And all the aliens, all the aliens and all that do wickedly
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shall be stubble in the sethragen.
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But in the King James Version we see and all the proud and all
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that do wickedly shall be stubble.
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That's a huge difference. How do we get to the theological
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bottom of that? Well, the word for proud in
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Hebrew is zed, and it's filled with two letters, a zaddy and a
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daileth. But there's a word for stranger,
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which is SER, and it's spelled with two letters, a zaddy and a
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rash, ZR instead of ZD. If you read that that day left.
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And the rash can be confused very easily in scribal cursive
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handwriting. And if you read Zer or Zerim in
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the plural, you'll translate it as aliens.
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If you read Zed or Zed being in the plural, you'll translate it
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as proud. So in the substitute we have
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proud. In the King James Version, I'm
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sorry, we have strangers. In the King James Version, we
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are proud. Who is going to be burned up.
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Now that's important because burning up all the strangers
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means everyone who's not an Israelite.
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Burning up all the proud means all of the arrogant bastards.
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OK, so you would, if you're a theologian, you'd want to get to
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the bottom of that? Yeah, and I think in the book of
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Matthew, Jesus himself says he he came not for anybody other
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than the lost sheep of Israel. Lost sheep of the House of
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Israel. But when we get through this
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Judean history and we find out that the, I can't quantify this
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in numbers, but the Edomites had occupied most of the former land
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of Judah, not only as far north of as Hebron.
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Most of the books will tell you that they occupied as far north
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as Hebron. However, Hyrcanus took Marisa,
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which is 12 miles east northeast of Hebron.
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So Edomites were further north than Hebron, right?
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And, and Hebron is about 22 miles southeast of Jerusalem.
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But Hercanus also conquered the Edomites at Dora, and that's a
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reference to Dor on the seacoast.
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And Dor is 58 miles north, northeast of Jerusalem.
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He took them that far north. And Dora was at that time a
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significant city on the coast, the coast of what would have
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been the territory of the tribe of Manasseh.
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So the Edomites occupied areas that were far north of Hebron
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and entire cities that later Alexander Janius had conquered.
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And most of the books don't mention Alexander Janius.
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But after the time of Racanis, perhaps 30 years after Alexander
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Janius had conquered all of the other Edomites and and other
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aliens, people that may have been Canaanites or Syrians, and
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forcibly converted them to this new religion of Judaism.
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And that's the point where I have to call it Judaism because
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it's no longer the religion of Moses that explicitly excluded
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these people. And we?
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See what period of sorry sorry, when would that have been more
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or less on the timeline. 2nd century BC. 2nd century BC.
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Permanently corrupted into this idea that other people can
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become Israelites. That's interesting.
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That kind of confirms what is it Stephen Wise, I think he was an
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American rabbi quite high up in the system.
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He maybe 2 decades ago more or less said something to the tune
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of the end of Hebrews. Sorry, I beg your pardon.
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The the the Babylonian exile marked the end of Hebrewism and
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the beginning of Judaism, which kind of aligns to what you're
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saying. Yes, there there was.
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I mean, OK, he's kind of close, right?
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Because in the days of Ezra, now my chronology of Ezra and
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Nehemiah is different than mainstream chronology, but I
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know I could prove my case. So I am very confident of it.
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Nehemiah was the governor of Jerusalem for the king of
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Persia. He'd also been the cup bearer of
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the king of Persia, a very highly trusted position.
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So cup bearer is a is a ceremonial title.
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It actually was an important member of a cabinet, so to
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speak, of the King's counsellors.
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So in the days of Nehemiah they were already trying to mix with
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the local peoples, the Edomites and others who had been giving
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them trouble and tried to prevent them from rebuilding the
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temple. So the rebuilding of the temple
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was decreed by Cyrus around 5:30 BC and he died and through the
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time of cambesis his son, I believe it was no Darius.
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Yeah, through the time of his successor, I believe is it was
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cambesis. I might be confused on this.
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But it was prevented. They wouldn't allow the temple
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to be rebuilt. And then Darius became the king
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of Persia and he obeyed Cyrus's decree.
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And that's why the temple wasn't rebuilt until 5:20 to 5:16 some
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years after Cyrus made a decree. And that fulfilled the 70 years
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that Jerusalem was supposed to like desolate, saying that by
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the time of Nehemiah he was roaming.
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He was Persian governor of Judea of Jerusalem from five O 3 to
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490 BC. In 490 BC, he his ministry in
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Jerusalem was terminated, and there's reason for that.
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And the building in Jerusalem is terminated.
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The Temple was built and Nehemiah rebuilt the walls of
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the city, but he never built the entire city.
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It was terminated because 490 BC was the year of the Battle of
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Marathon, and the Persians recalled all their important
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resources to prepare for an assault against Greece.
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That planning began at that time, but it wasn't fulfilled
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until the time of Xerxes, the next king of Persia.
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So Xerxes invaded Greece, and that didn't happen for another
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10 years, I believe, or maybe 20 years.
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No, 10 years, I think the battles of Salamis and for
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Tahia, those battles. So Persia suffered a huge loss
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in the invasion of Greece and they really did.
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It was really devastating. So the Persian king Xerxes
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retreated and Persia remained fairly quiet for some a couple
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of decades. Ezra was commissioned about
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sometime around 460 BC to return and rebuild to continue the
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rebuilding of Jerusalem and actually rebuild the the city
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itself, where Nehemiah had only rebuilt the walls and so Babel
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had only built the temple. We see in both books, Ezra and
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Nehemiah, in times that are contemporary to them, that the
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priests, especially in Jerusalem, the Levitical
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priests, we're encouraging race mixing with the local people
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contrary to the Law of Moses, that you could say that that's
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where Judaism began. But both times that was
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corrected down in the 2nd century, it was never corrected.
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It was permanent. So Rabbi Stephen Wise is kind of
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accurate, but I would amend it slightly.
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That's all. That's the only difference.
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But it's true. That's when Judaism began.
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Judaism is a corruption of the laws of Moses and the religion
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of of the patriarchs and and of David and and the ancient
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Kingdom. Obviously Jesus himself was not
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a Jew. The people he spoke to would
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have become Jews at a later stage.
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In the formal sense they would have been what, proto Jews or
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something? Because they had moved away from
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Hebrewism. They were this conglomerate of
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customs, traditions, beliefs that eventually all kind of
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amalgamated into what would become Talmudic Judaism.
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Am I? Am I correct?
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Well, well, yes, but the Talmud in many, many ways is absolutely
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contrary to the Old Testament. It's absolutely contrary.
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In the Talmud, for instance, a Jew is.
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And I don't have all these chapters and verses in my head,
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but I could come up with these citations if I need to, and I'm
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sure many of them are on my website already.
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In the Talmud, it's OK for a Jew to take the property of a
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Gentile. The gentiles should own nothing
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and Jews should own everything. But in the.
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Word gentiles also means something, but hold on, the word
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gentile also I'm. Not using gentile in the
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traditional Judeo Christian sense of non Jew because that's
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how the Talmud uses it. It it's not a good translation
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of the Latin term Gentiles at all.
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So but that's the way Jews use the term.
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Christians should not use the term in that manner.
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It's a deception. It's a Jewish deception.
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So in the time when it's OK for a Jew to take the property of
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people of other religions, that the the Jews deserve it all and
34:50
the other people don't deserve anything.
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But in the in the books of Moses, the Israelites are
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specifically told on several occasions to have one law for
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themselves and for the strangers among them, the same law.
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They should judge themselves and the strangers among them by the
35:14
same law. That's explicit in the laws of
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Moses. So the Talmud in that aspect is
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absolutely contrary to the laws of Moses.
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The Israelites were not permitted, permitted to cheat
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the people that they traded with.
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They would have one law in the Talmud.
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You could cheat and swindle everybody that's not a Jew.
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The Hebrew Bible in the Scriptures, in the laws of
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Moses. It's my opinion that paedophilia
35:50
is so reviling that it's not even mentioned.
35:55
But in reality, in ancient reality, a father has absolute
36:02
power and ownership of his children, His absolute power
36:08
over his children. So it's the father's
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determination what is done with his children and nobody else's.
36:17
So the father wants to marry off his daughter, 10 years old.
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There's really no law preventing him.
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If you have an upright father, he's going to look out for the
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interests of his daughter and he's not going to marry her off
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at 10 years old. That being said, pederasty or
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or, I'm sorry, sodomy or homosexuality is punishable by
36:44
death and it doesn't matter it it's sex between males and it's
36:51
punishable by death and it doesn't matter the age of the
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males. But in a Talmud, it's completely
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acceptable for a man to have, and it's explicitly permitted
37:05
for a man to have sex with a child, male or female, doesn't
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matter between 3:00 and 9:00 years of age.
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And it's counted nothing. It's not an offence in the
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Talmud. Yeah.
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William, when we talk about when you talk about a Jew or Judaism,
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what are we actually talking about?
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We're talking about, OK, the these Edomites were all
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converted into this religion that we must call Judaism by
37:45
this time. It's not the Hebrew Bible, it's
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not Israelite in nature. It didn't come from Moses that
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this idea that you could mix all the races, circumcise them,
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convert them in and they're they're Israelites all of a
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sudden and they're God's chosen people all of a sudden.
38:03
That's not true. There were laws that certain
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people could, could become part of the body, body politic of
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Israel, certain kindred nations. But the Canaanites were
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explicitly excluded from those laws.
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So were the Moabites, so were the Ammonites, and so were the
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Edomites and the Ishmaelites. They were all excluded from
38:29
those laws. But these are the people that
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Hyrcanus and Alexander Janius converted to Judaism.
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They mixed with the Judeans. They began to intermarry with
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the Judeans. Christ comes along in the 1st
38:48
century and says, My sheep hear my voice.
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And he says to his, Those who opposed him, You do not believe
38:58
me because you are not my sheep. The church teaches you are not
39:06
my sheep. They're not a sheep because they
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didn't believe them. That's not what he said.
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He said you do not. John, chapter 10, verse 26.
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It's very explicit. There's only one way to
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translate it. I read Greek.
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You can't possibly translate this any other way.
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You do not believe me because you were not my sheep, period.
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If they're not a sheep, they're not as people.
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If they don't believe him, they're not as people.
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That's what Christ said. If you're a Christian and you
39:39
don't believe that, then you're denying Christ.
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It's real simple. It's not complicated.
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Look at the history to see why that could be.
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And it's very clear that all of these Edomites were folded in
39:59
with the into the same people as the Judeans.
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They intermarried with the Judeans.
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There's all sorts of proof of that in the pages of Flavius
40:08
Josephus, who was a Judean historian, but he was a real
40:13
Israelite. He was a Levite.
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He was from the tribal Levi. He was a priest from Galilee,
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not in the Temple. So.
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He's not really a priest, he's a Levite.
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The priests are chosen out of the tribal Levi, but Levites had
40:32
many priestly duties. They were the teachers of
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scripture and the synagogue, but they were also the town clerks
40:38
and administrators of the Old Kingdom.
40:43
So Herod comes to power in 36 BC.
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He actually had administrative positions in Judea under the
40:55
legitimate high priests, the Hasmoneans before that, and the
41:03
Judeans constantly had rebelled against the Romans.
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The Romans came and conquered Judea in 63 BC, but the Judeans
41:12
were constantly in a state of rebellion until Herod got the
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Edomites to take the side of Rome and Herod was made king and
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Herod and this is explained at length in Flavius Josephus in
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Antiquities of the Judeans. Herod had actually wiped out all
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the family of the Hasemonians and taken power to themselves
41:39
and killed many the priests and the noble people in Jerusalem
41:44
and replaced them all with his own people, replaced the high
41:50
priest with his own people, and all of the people who had
41:55
offices of authority he replaced with his own people.
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Who did he replace them with? Israelites or Edomites it it
42:06
should be pretty clear who we replace them with, even though
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each individual isn't spelled out.
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This one's an Edomite, this one's an Israelite.
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No, he replaced them with Edomites with his own people.
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Someone said to me the other day, yes, but Paul was a Jew.
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He even referred to himself as an Edomite.
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No, that's a lie. Paul described himself as a
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Benjaminite of the tribe of Benjamin I.
42:37
Beg your pardon? He didn't say Edomite.
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I think he said Pharisee. I beg your pardon.
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But but the Pharisees were Edomites.
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Pharisee was a political party. Look at America.
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Look at the Republicans. We have white Republicans, Black
42:48
Republicans, Indian Republicans, Chinese Republicans.
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Pharisee was a political party. That political party didn't rise
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or or at least let me say that Josephus doesn't mention any
43:04
existence of political parties. He says that they began in the
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time of John Herkanis and one of them was called Sadducees and
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one of them was called Pharisees.
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And at that time there were other break off groups that
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didn't want anything to do with either one of them.
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One of those break off groups was later called the Essenes.
43:27
So it it's peculiar. It's not peculiar, not really.
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Pharisee originally meant separatist, but the Jews will
43:40
tell you it means religious separatist.
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But how does a party that means separatist suddenly arise when
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John Herkanis wants to take Edomites and turn them into
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Judeans and this party called the separatists appears?
43:55
OK, so I could read the handwriting between the lines,
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but that's when the parties arose and they were only
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political parties, competing political parties.
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And the Sadducees, we're a party that basically denied the role
44:13
of God in the world, the existence of the Spirit after
44:17
death. Josephus explains all that and
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it's also explained in in not so many words in the New Testament
44:25
that the Sadducees had those atheistic or or at least they
44:32
couldn't deny God, not at that time.
44:35
They couldn't deny that God existed.
44:37
So they denied that he had any interest in the affairs of men,
44:41
as Josephus explains it. So you have these political
44:44
parties and they're competing. Most of the high priests, if not
44:50
all appointed from time of Herod forward were Sadducees.
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I can't name one that was a Pharisee.
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There may have been one, but most of them are identifiable as
45:07
Sadducees explicitly so. Sadducees had the control of the
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High Priesthood for perhaps 2/3 of the time from the death of
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Herod to the time of the destruction of Jerusalem in
45:26
7080. So in many ways, Jesus, who was
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a Hebrew and not a another Jew in in the sense that we
45:36
understand today, right, he was very much an outlier.
45:44
Yes, they were outliers. It's you really have to read a
45:51
lot to understand the truth of what I'm trying to convey.
45:55
John the Baptist, he was born from a priestly family.
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His father was a priest. He was a Levite, not at all the
46:05
the he was the cousin of Christ through Mary, but Christ was of
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the tribe of Judah by the circumstances of his birth.
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His his adopted father, right. His natural father, of course,
46:21
is God, but his perceivable father was the wife of his
46:26
mother when he was born, and that's the husband of his mother
46:29
when he was born. And that's Joseph of Nazareth,
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and he was of the tribe of Judah.
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So Christ was of the tribe of Judah in that manner, and Mary
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was probably of the tribe of Judah.
46:44
And there are theological reasons for that.
46:48
It can't be proven one way or another because it's never
46:50
explicit, but Mary and Elizabeth certainly can be cousins, being
46:56
women and be of two different tribes of Israel.
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That's very possible and I could probably make illustrations in a
47:02
few minutes as to why, but I shouldn't have to do that here.
47:06
So Johnny Baptist is baptising in the river.
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When we look at the the book of Ezekiel, he was in the captivity
47:20
and he opens his book in chapter 1 explaining that he was praying
47:24
by the river. When we look at the Acts of the
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Apostles and where Paul encounters a woman named Lydia
47:35
in Macedonia and in a city in Macedonia and he meets a group
47:41
of women, among whom is this woman Lydia, and they are
47:45
praying by a river on the Sabbath.
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And from those two books, 2 Witnesses right there, we can
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see that the Hebrews, the Israelites, when they didn't
47:56
have a synagogue to attend, where they could hear readings
48:01
of the Scripture, they typically went to the rivers, went to the
48:06
riverbanks on the Sabbath, and prayed by the river.
48:12
But there were synagogues in Judea.
48:15
And in spite of the fact that there were synagogues in Judea,
48:18
John the Baptist had a very successful ministry baptising
48:23
people in a river. Why?
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Because many of the Israelites, the true Israelites in Judea,
48:30
must have become outliers. They must have been disaffected
48:36
from the from the Edomite controlled society to have even
48:40
been by the rivers on the Sabbath days.
48:45
Why else would they be there? And that's where John the
48:49
Baptist ministry was successful and that's why it was
48:53
successful. That's the only thing that
48:55
explains that is that the disaffected people were going to
48:59
the rivers where they were baptised by John.
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So how did we end up where we are now?
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It it's a long story, but in Judea after the time of Christ
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and this I, I could walk through the words of the prophets in
49:21
order to determine in or in order to prove this to fully
49:25
demonstrate it. But it would take much too long
49:29
a time for for this conversation.
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And today at the time of Christ, the real history lights my sheep
49:38
hear my voice. They became Christians, becoming
49:42
Christians. They left behind their identity
49:48
as Judahites or Israelites, or I should say Judeans, because Jew
49:56
isn't a proper word. It's a contraction of Judean, a
50:00
modern contraction. So they left behind that
50:05
identity and they identified themselves as Christians.
50:10
The people who did not accept Christ remained as Judeans and
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suffered in in the the wars with the Romans, but they were never
50:24
eradicated. They maintained the identity of
50:30
Jews, of Judeans, which was later contracted into Jews.
50:37
So that identity of Judeans that was later contracted into Jews
50:42
belongs to all of the people of Judea who did not accept Christ,
50:49
and Christ told them, you do not believe me because you are not
50:54
my sheep. They're not as people.
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That's why in Revelation chapter 2 we have those who say they are
51:03
Judeans and are not, but are of the synagogue of Satan.
51:08
Satan just means adversary. Above Christ on the cross, it
51:12
would have actually said King of Judea, not all king of the
51:16
Judeans, not king of the Jews. Yes, but Christ never said that.
51:21
Yes. So it doesn't matter what's
51:23
written above Christ on the on the cross.
51:26
If you read the Gospels, Christ never said I'm the king of the
51:33
Jews or I'm the king of the Judeans.
51:36
He never said that. His enemies accused him of it.
51:40
His enemies said he's trying to make himself king.
51:44
Christ never tried to make himself king.
51:47
His enemy said that. So Pilate wrote it.
51:50
He wrote it to taunt his enemies.
51:53
Pilate was forced politically to allow him to be executed, to be
51:58
crucified. They had him in a political
52:01
stranglehold and you have to understand Roman and Judean
52:06
politics and Judean politics in relation to Rome in order to
52:10
understand why. So that's also a long
52:13
discussion. But the the Judeans, the leaders
52:17
that wanted Christ executed, had Pilot in a political
52:20
stranglehold. He had to accede to their wishes
52:25
if he himself cared about his own welfare.
52:30
So for his own self interests he had no choice.
52:35
He allowed him to be crucified. But he was taunting them by
52:40
writing that on the cross, and they begged him not to write it.
52:44
And he said that which is written is written, and he left
52:47
it. Jesus of Nazareth, King of the
52:50
Judeans, is what it should say. So Christ never said that.
52:56
He never declared that of himself.
52:59
One of the other talking points that always comes up, William,
53:05
is that Jews are from the tribe of Judah.
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I see it all the time. I hear it all the time.
53:12
This is an established fact that Jews are basically from the
53:16
tribe of Judah. But the established facts are
53:21
simply Jewish propaganda. They're factoids.
53:26
They are not facts. I'm going to read from real
53:31
quick. I would like to read from three
53:33
sources. I will really try to keep this
53:38
brief. This is all at my website.
53:41
It's all documented there. I'm going to read from a
53:44
facsimile from Encyclopaedia Judaica, and this is volume 10,
53:50
page 23, and it's published in 1971.
53:56
And it says, and it, and it gives an explanation of how the
54:01
word Jew became such a curse. The the word was disparaged.
54:07
It was used in in that tenor as as a curse by white Europeans
54:13
and it says Jews because they wanted to escape that
54:17
association. That's how this article explains
54:20
it. But the rather the semantics of
54:23
popular usage were the reason for the problem with the word
54:27
Jew. And it says in order to avoid
54:29
the unwelcome associations and connotations of the word, Jews
54:34
began in the 19th century to call themselves Hebrews and
54:39
Israelites. Now that's a Jewish source and
54:45
they cite an example, the Alliance Israelite Universal or
54:50
the Universal Alliance of Israelites, an organisation
54:54
founded in 1860 that also happens to be the organisation
54:59
that commissioned Marx to write the Communist Manifesto, by the
55:03
way, that came from. A coincidence?
55:06
Yeah, just a coincidence. A coincidence?
55:09
Yeah. So that's one Jewish source very
55:14
clear. Jews began in the 19th century
55:16
to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites, but it's not true.
55:21
So I'm going to read one more source.
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This is from the Jewish Almanack.
55:27
This is published in October of 1980 by Bantam Books.
55:33
And on page three it says, strictly speaking, this is a
55:41
brief history of the terms for Jew.
55:44
And it says, strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an
55:48
ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an
55:55
Israelite or a Hebrew. Jews know what I'm saying.
56:02
The Jewish scholars, the rabbis know what I'm talking about if
56:09
they're truly Jewish scholars. And that's two Jewish sources
56:14
which support what I'm saying. I have many other sources on my
56:18
website from ancient books which support what I'm saying.
56:22
So what do we believe? Do we believe what we see on TV
56:26
or do we believe the contemporary evidence of Flavius
56:30
Josephus? And, and I've quoted other Greek
56:36
writers, outsiders who have said the same things, who have
56:40
summarised the same things that Josephus explains in detail,
56:45
that the true people of Judah, the true Judeans and the
56:52
Edomites were all mixed up with one another in Judea,
56:57
practising, practising the same laws and customs.
57:04
Christ said my sheep hear my voice.
57:06
They converted to Christianity. The apostle James in Acts
57:10
chapter, it's out of chapter 20 or 21.
57:13
I think it's chapter 21 told Paul of Tarsus that there were
57:18
thousands. He said myriads, which is
57:21
actually 10s of thousands, myriads of people in Judea that
57:26
believed in Christianity. The context was Speaking of
57:33
Christianity. There are significant sects of
57:39
Judeans who were later Christians.
57:42
The Ebenite Christians are one of those sects.
57:46
So when is a Christian going to consider all of these things?
57:53
That these people are really Edomites, the people of God's
57:56
curse? They didn't believe Christ
58:00
because they weren't his sheep. And consider the theological
58:05
implications of that, that the promises to Abraham were not
58:10
made to them. Where does the Eastern European
58:15
link come in? The Caesars were a powerful
58:21
nation probably by the 5th century BC.
58:29
They were probably, at least for the most part, very much like
58:34
Europeans in their ethnicity originally.
58:40
Because originally most people in Mesopotamia, the Levant,
58:45
Syria, the Caucasus mountain regions were European.
58:49
They were European in their ethnicity.
58:53
So those places didn't become brown, so to speak, Arab until
59:01
after the rise of Islam and the invasions of the Turks.
59:10
The rise of Islam was in the 7th century AD.
59:13
That is when Northern Africa was taken from the Phoenicians and
59:20
the Vandals who were essentially the same people as Europeans,
59:24
and the Vandals were Germanic. And that is when the entire
59:28
Levant and all the way to Persia were taken by Arabs and an
59:33
Arabization process began and the Arabs introduced them of
59:38
many Negro slaves. And eventually it it changed
59:44
that whole ancient world into an Arab world.
59:48
So it's ethnography. Ethnographically, I'm sorry,
59:52
it's ethnographically very different today than it was
59:58
before the rise of Islam. Very different.
1:00:02
Now Egypt had already absorbed a lot of Negro blood, of black
1:00:08
blood, sub Saharan African blood, but that's a different
1:00:12
story. Egypt and Ethiopia were also
1:00:15
originally white, and this I could establish in in not only
1:00:21
in history but in language and in archaeological relics.
1:00:26
Many, many archaeological relics.
1:00:29
But Ethiopia was probably that they were ruling kings of Kush
1:00:35
were ruling over Nubia and the peoples.
1:00:38
The two peoples were mixing by the 8th century BC and they
1:00:44
conquered Egypt at the end of that century I believe.
1:00:49
And they had the 25th dynasty of Pharaohs were Pharaohs,
1:00:54
Ethiopian Pharaohs from Pharaohs from Kush and that 25th dynasty.
1:00:59
During that time much Nubian blood was introduced into Egypt.
1:01:05
So the Egypt had become Arab. Arab means Arab is a word which
1:01:11
means mixed in Hebrew. Originally it was used of
1:01:15
various white tribes that had mixed with each other.
1:01:19
But in the Islamic period, you had the introduction of other
1:01:23
races into the bloodlines of of the Middle East and Near East.
1:01:35
The Khazars became a powerful nation and they were used as a
1:01:42
as a way for the Jews to get even with Byzantium.
1:01:52
When the Byzantine kings had adopted Christianity and started
1:01:58
to make laws favouring Christians over Jews and
1:02:02
basically marginalising Jews in many aspects of government and
1:02:08
society. Many Jews left the Byzantine
1:02:12
Empire and many of them went to Arabia, and the outcome of that
1:02:18
was the foundation of Islam, and many of them went to Khazaria.
1:02:27
Well, are you? Did you just suggest that Islam
1:02:31
could be an offshoot of Judaism? I know Islam's an offshoot of
1:02:35
Judaism. Judaism is written, I wonder
1:02:39
God, it's written all over the Quran.
1:02:42
Muhammad was a Jew. I'm not saying this.
1:02:46
Edward Gibbon, the rise and fall of Rome, famous historian, 18th
1:02:51
century. He said Muhammad was a Jew.
1:02:56
William Alzag, a historian of the church, 19th century.
1:03:02
He said Muhammad was a Jew, not me.
1:03:06
So I have documentation of this on my website.
1:03:13
The more they examine the Quran, the more you examine the Quran.
1:03:17
And in the hadith Muhammad is. I don't know if it's explicit or
1:03:21
not. I have to read it for myself and
1:03:23
examine the meanings, the original words.
1:03:25
I'm not really into Arabic. Arabic is basically a bastard
1:03:30
stepchild of Aramaic that wasn't even really a single language
1:03:36
until the Quran. And the rise of Islam unified
1:03:41
this Arabic language amongst the regional Arabs.
1:03:45
So that there's a lot to the rise of Islam and the forces
1:03:52
behind it that's basically disguised from the general
1:03:55
public. It's history that's
1:03:57
uncomfortable, that's not really spoken of.
1:04:00
But it's very plausible that Muhammad was at least from a
1:04:05
Jewish mother. That's pretty much
1:04:08
establishable. I read, yeah, I read somewhere
1:04:11
that he, that he, he actually hung out with rabbis.
1:04:14
Yeah, yes, he was very close to Jews and that Quran is just a a
1:04:22
mishmash of Arab and Jewish traditions and and Hebrew
1:04:33
apocrypha and pseudepigrapha. And a lot of people are really
1:04:40
deceived into this idea that Islam recognises Jesus.
1:04:48
I've read those parts of the Quran where Christ and the
1:04:51
apostles are discussed and described, and it's not the
1:04:57
Jesus of the Gospels, it's not the apostles of the Gospels.
1:05:02
It's a caricature of Jesus. It's a caricature of the
1:05:08
apostles. And it's just a total totally
1:05:13
fictional portrayal of Christ and the apostles as Muslims.
1:05:20
It's not real. It's 7th century Jewish bullshit
1:05:24
is what it is. That's what it is.
1:05:27
It's not real. It's anti Christian because it
1:05:33
invents a very different Jesus that we see in the canonical
1:05:39
scriptures. Sorry to.
1:05:43
But you were, you were you were. You were about to tell me more
1:05:45
about the the Khazars. OK, the Jews were basically
1:05:51
alienated from Christian Byzantium.
1:05:55
So they went to Algeria, they went to Arabia, they went to
1:05:59
Khazaria, and they used the people in Arabia and Khazaria
1:06:07
and Algeria, they used those people in order to get
1:06:14
retribution against the Byzantine Empire.
1:06:19
So they organised those people into a religion that they could
1:06:23
use as an as a hammer against the Byzantines, against
1:06:28
Christianity. To what degree Jews mixed with
1:06:35
Caesars, converted them and mixed with them.
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I know that there's this fantastic story about a king
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that was enchanted and he heard out a Christian, a rabbi and an
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imam, a Muslim, and he decided on Islam to be a state religion.
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I've heard that story and that a lot of people attribute that
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story to author Kosler, who wrote a book called The 13th
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Tribe in about the 1950s. But it's not his story.
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He didn't make, he didn't invent it.
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He didn't make it up. The story is really told by a a
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man who is a very highly esteemed Jewish historian.
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I don't know how much he's worthy of that esteem, but I'm
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not going to comment on that. But his name was Heinrich Gratz
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GRAETZ. He told that story.
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I have his books here, all six volumes I have here in my
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backroom. I think I have two copies.
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So. So Heinrich Gratz told that that
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exact story about how the quasars became Muslims and the
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origin of the Khazarian Jews. He told that story.
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And that's where that's the most likely source for Arthur
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Kosler's the 13th Tribe. The the Jews intermingled
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heavily with the Khazar people. And that gives us our Ashkenazi
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Jews. But the word Ashkenazi isn't to
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be confounded with the Khazars. The word Ashkenazi is the slant,
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the slander that Jews put upon Germans.
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The ger. The Jews called the Germans
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Ashkenazi, which isn't true in the Middle Ages, and they call
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themselves Ashkenazi Jews, which should be translated to German
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Jews. That's the way the Jews use the
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term in their rabbinical literature.
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These czars, which later became Ashkenazi Jews.
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The Jews may have intermarried with them and converted many of
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them, but the preponderance of them became Muslims.
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All of the invaders that the Jews used against Byzantium were
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Muslims. And the common denominator
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between the East, where you have Turks that are suddenly Muslims,
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and Arabs in the South, which are suddenly Muslims, is Jews.
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They're in both places. How did that happen?
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That's another coincidence. Coincidence, yes.
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So it's not a coincidence at all.
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Jewry leverage these alien peoples to assault Christian
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Byzantium and it took many centuries for them to gain the
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vengeance that they wanted. On 700 years they also used
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those peoples to assault Christian Spain and and it was
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Goths, it was Germanic Goths who had control of Spain at the
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time. Primarily there was a large
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population of Jews in the very South of Spain, but they were
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basically expelled and they came back with the Muslim hordes and
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they occupied most of Spain for up to 700 years.
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They occupied or they assaulted the Byzantine Empire in the East
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for 700 years. From the time of the rise of
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Islam to the time of the fall of Count Constantinople was
1:10:38
actually more like 800 years. It took them to accomplish that,
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but that's their vengeance. And historically the Jews went
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when the Jews in Spain were, were, well, I'm not going to say
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suffering when they were pretending to be suffering
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because it was really only vengeance.
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Under the the Spanish Reconquista, they found their
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allies where in the Turks. The Jews and the Muslims have
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always historically been allies everywhere but in Palestine in
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recent times, they've always been close allies against
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Christians because Jews created Islam so that they could have
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the the manpower to assault Christianity.
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Summarise everything you've said.
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Jews are not Israelites or Hebrews.
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It it's very simple. It's demonstrable in history.
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It's demonstrable in Scripture if Christians want to.
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If Christians claim to be Christians, they should believe
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Christ. Christ often quoted from Isaiah
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and from Malachi. They should believe Malachi and
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Isaiah. They should believe these things
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and accept them and consider the theological consequences.
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Because these modern Jews are not Israelites, they do not
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merit any claim to the promises made to Abraham, period.
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When would you argue Judaism began and who were the Jews of
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the Bible? Right.
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Judaism began as a corruption of the religion of Moses in the 2nd
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century BC. That's when the change became
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permanent. And when the people who were
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cursed in the Old Testament became Judeans, they eventually
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became known as Jews. I don't know why.
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And it's so hard for people to understand it.
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It's it's. Probably because it's it's
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because of that whole quote unquote Judeo Christian
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paradigm. Yes, it's horrible poison.
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It's actually poison. It gives Satan a right to rule
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over us is what it does. And that's why Satan developed
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it, because from the very beginning, Jews persecuted
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Christianity. Jews leverage Rome, Pagan Rome,
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to persecute Christianity for 300 years.
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This is in writing in 4th century writings, 3rd century
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writings of Tertullian, a Christian Bishop of Hippo or
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Cottage, and Minutia's Felix, another Christian apologist of
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that time. They both wrote that it was Jews
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who were persecuting Christianity, using Rome to do
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so. And we see that same pattern in
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the in the ministry of Paul of Tarsus, in the book of Acts,
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that the Jews would go out and get the Greeks, the lowlife
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Greeks, the the common riffraff from the markets to attack
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Christians. So this has been going on and it
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went on for 300 years. But when Christianity was
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finally accepted by Rome, the rabbi's set themselves up as the
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authorities on the Bible. And Christians appeal to rabbis
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to understand the Hebrew Old Testament.
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They should have never had to do that.
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They should have never done that.
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So Jews became the authorities of what they persecuted, and
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they have been ever since. But Jews have no authorities.
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The New Testament itself explains to us Paul of Tarsus,
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First Corinthians. I'm sorry, maybe it's Second
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Corinthians chapter 3. I believe Paul of Tarsus
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explains that unless you have Christ meaning his words and his
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explanations, you cannot understand Moses.
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How can my audience follow your work?
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Christogenia.org. That's Christ.
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Christ OGENEA. That's 2 words that can mean
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race of Christ, or birth of Christ, or anointed race,
1:15:22
however you want to say it. That's three possible
1:15:25
definitions. There might be 1/4.
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Peter tells Christians that they are an anointed race, a holy
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priesthood. That's first Peter.
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I think it's chapter 2. It might be chapter 1.
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I forget I'm bad at that. But that that's Peter, the
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apostle and companion of Christ, telling Christians that they are
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the anointed people and the chosen people, these Jews, these
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Edomites, or never be anointed people or the chosen people.
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They were the people of God's curse.
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If Christians believe their Bibles, they would believe that.
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William Fink, thank you for joining me the changes.