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Steelers-Texans REACTION, Coaches on 4th Down, Tony Romo STINKS at broadcasting · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three
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Speaker 1: and Out podcast, brought to you by my friends at
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Speaker 1: Zone Pouches. I just witnessed the Pittsburgh Steelers get obliterated
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Speaker 1: by the Houston Texans. Oh my gosh, that was even
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Speaker 1: worse than I envisioned, and I did not envision great
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Speaker 1: things for them. So we will dive into the Steelers.
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Speaker 1: Tomlin Rogers is that it can the Texans make a run.
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Speaker 1: A lot of other stuff going on. John Harbaugh was
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Speaker 1: paid a visit by Chris Mora, who is John's brother,
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Speaker 1: so something to keep an eye on. Micah Parsons comes
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Speaker 1: out to defend Laflor. We had Tony Romo, who's just
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Speaker 1: getting crushed on the internet for sucking at broadcasting. And
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Speaker 1: this lady that told Liam Cohen, good job, have a
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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers were murdered. They were destroyed. That game
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Speaker 1: wasn't even close. I thought the last couple of years
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Speaker 1: against Josh Allen against Lamar Jackson, losing both those games
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Speaker 1: by multiple scores was a clear sign that the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: were the best team in the AFC. Then you had
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Speaker 1: the next tier, which were those two and in the
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Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs and back to back years
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Speaker 1: you weren't even within two touchdowns of them. And I've
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Speaker 1: been saying this for a while. Listen, coaching a lot
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Speaker 1: like relationships, you kind of know when it's over, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of times even when you know it's over,
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Speaker 1: it still lasts a little bit longer now in sports
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Speaker 1: for those to continue, Like you can't win four or
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Speaker 1: five games, and Mike Tomlin has made a career now
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Speaker 1: of going nine and eight or ten and seven, like
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Speaker 1: he is never gonna not be competitive. We know that
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Speaker 1: next year Aaron Rodgers retires, they could land mac Jones,
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Speaker 1: they could land Malik Willis, and I would bet on
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Speaker 1: the Steelers to be a nine or ten win team.
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Speaker 1: They're never gonna bottom out, even with these older players,
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Speaker 1: that they will figure it out. They're not gonna suck.
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Speaker 1: But what does that get you? Feels like it puts
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Speaker 1: a band aid on this situation that this once proud
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Speaker 1: franchise that used to compete go toe to toe with
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Speaker 1: the great Ravens teams with the great Patriot teams, even
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Speaker 1: though they couldn't really beat the Patriots in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: but in terms of the regular season that they were
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Speaker 1: really really good in this last decade has been an embarrassment.
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Speaker 1: And you watched tonight that they basically tried to hold
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Speaker 1: this thing together with guys at the end of their career.
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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people in the league got
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Speaker 1: given TJ. Watt all that money this year was crazy.
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Speaker 1: We understood he's been one of the best players on
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Speaker 1: your team and in the league, the best player on
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Speaker 1: your team and one of the better players in the
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Speaker 1: league over the course of his career. But he's an
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Speaker 1: aging veteran trending the wrong way, you know, trading for
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who by the end of the year wasn't
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Speaker 1: pretting much to the table. I don't blame you for
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Speaker 1: signing Aaron Rodgers at forty two years old. You didn't
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Speaker 1: have any other options. But as I told Coward this morning,
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Speaker 1: if this was a Disney movie, I would have picked
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Speaker 1: Rogers and Tomlin to win the game. This is the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and that was the outcome I expected. I'd argue it
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Speaker 1: was worse, especially as the game went on, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: is he going to get injured? The one thing with
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Speaker 1: the Steelers is for a long time they were great
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Speaker 1: with wide receivers. They could find guys all over the draft.
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Speaker 1: They always had dues. Then this year they trade with
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Speaker 1: what I would consider one of, if not the best.
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Speaker 1: Definitely if you just factor in this year, you'd say
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Speaker 1: he's the best GM during the twenty twenty five season.
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Speaker 1: When John Schneider calls you to make a deal for
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Speaker 1: a guy going on to his third contract, that should
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Speaker 1: be like when Billy Bean calls you or Sam Presty
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Speaker 1: calls you. Hang up the phone. They gave dk Metcalf,
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Speaker 1: they gave a second round pick, and they gave him
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars. Now we'll see with
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Speaker 1: the suspension they can get out of guarantees. My guess
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Speaker 1: is they cut him this offseason. He obviously had a
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Speaker 1: horrendous drop on what should be for a high end
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, a play you make with your eyes closed.
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Speaker 1: But here's the problem. DK Metcalf is actually like the
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Speaker 1: poor man's version of Terrell Owens. Do you know the
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Speaker 1: knock on Trell Owens didn't have great hands, Like wasn't
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Speaker 1: Chris Carter, wasn't Marvin Harrison, but he was good enough,
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Speaker 1: and obviously from a physical standpoint, he was unstoppable once
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Speaker 1: the ball was in his hands. DK Metcalf definitely doesn't
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Speaker 1: have good hands because even the late drop that he had,
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they considered it a drop
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Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers scrambled to his left and let that
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Speaker 1: ball fly, which god, he still throws a beautiful spiral.
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Speaker 1: At first you're like, that wasn't even close, and then
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Speaker 1: they show the slow motion version it literally split his hands.
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Speaker 1: It's like I learned a long time ago when I
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Speaker 1: got involved in college recruiting and then through the NFL,
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Speaker 1: guys with bad hands for good teams are complete stay
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Speaker 1: aways because you can't play the position. If you can't catch,
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Speaker 1: you could play defensive line, if you're a little bit shorter,
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Speaker 1: you could play certain positions if you lack certain physical characteristics,
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Speaker 1: but you can't play wide receiver at the highest of level.
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Speaker 1: And when they make that trade, they expected him to
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Speaker 1: be a star, and you saw to night he just not,
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Speaker 1: you know, And I'm not even factoring in him kind
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Speaker 1: of screwing over his team forcing them to go all
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Speaker 1: in in that Ravens game where clearly they got lucky
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Speaker 1: to win with the missfield goal, where if he plays
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Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Browns, they win the game, but he's
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Speaker 1: not available, And I just think I'm not putting all
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Speaker 1: this blame on Mike Tomlin. Only people in the building
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Speaker 1: know his pull and power when it comes to players,
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Speaker 1: clearly he has some, if not a lot. But this
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Speaker 1: team is extremely poorly built. I mean they really are,
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Speaker 1: and relative to the other teams, when you factor in
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Speaker 1: how dependent they are on this aging legend, they got
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Speaker 1: no shot. But here was the thing with the Steelers
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Speaker 1: when they were really, really good, which is most of
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Speaker 1: my life, definitely in the early throughout the two thousands,
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Speaker 1: and then for five six years in the twenty tens,
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Speaker 1: they had dominant defenses. Their front was unblockable. Their linebacker
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Speaker 1: play wasn't just fast, it was physical, and they had
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Speaker 1: dbs up the wazoo. You watch him the night, you know,
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Speaker 1: the underrated part of the night because Aaron Rodgers takes
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Speaker 1: so much oxygen, you know in the conversation and listen,
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Speaker 1: it's a star quarterback league. They get discussed the most.
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Speaker 1: They're like Hollywood actors or you know, star singers or
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Speaker 1: rappers or whatever. They are the headliners. But like you know,
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Speaker 1: the headline of the Steelers defense stinks. Wasn't good last
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Speaker 1: week against the Ravens when they were blowing coverages left
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Speaker 1: and right to say Flowers and Lamar Jackson, and it
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Speaker 1: definitely wasn't good. Tonight if it wasn't for one of
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Speaker 1: the more bizarre quarterback performances you will ever see out
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Speaker 1: of CJ. Stroud. And we'll get into him here in
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Speaker 1: a little bit. That defense was shredded, and that was
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Speaker 1: for about half the game without easily their best offensive player,
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Speaker 1: Nico Collins, who got absolutely KOed by the ground. And
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Speaker 1: I think, big picture, when it comes to the Texans,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a short turnaround for him to clear
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Speaker 1: concussion protocol. I think it's pretty fair game to assume
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Speaker 1: that he will not be available this upcoming weekend. Now
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Speaker 1: because of the way their team is built, as long
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Speaker 1: as their quarterback doesn't turn it over, they should be
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Speaker 1: in every game. You know why. Their defense is awesome.
8:55
Speaker 1: Their defense looks like what the Ravens and Steelers used
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Speaker 1: to look like. But here's the thing. The Ravens proved that,
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Speaker 1: like you know what, eventually we just got to pull
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Speaker 1: the plug and try something new. And a lot of
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Speaker 1: people will argue as like, you know this, this could
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Speaker 1: be a lot worse, But could this be better? Could
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Speaker 1: we actually be better off with someone else? I look today,
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Speaker 1: because sometimes he's been there for so long, you think
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Speaker 1: you know, John Harbaugh's sixty three, sixty four years old,
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomblin's fifty three years old. He liked John Harbaugh.
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Speaker 1: If he became available, would be the apple of all
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Speaker 1: these teams. I and obviously Mike would only work for
9:41
Speaker 1: credible franchises. There are some available operations that he would
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Speaker 1: not even be interested in. But if he is available,
9:50
Speaker 1: and Schefter reported this a month ago that like, listen,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to fire him, but they would be
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Speaker 1: open to trading him. And then there were some other
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Speaker 1: rumors like he would be open to television if I'm
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and listen, it's hard like he's prideful. I've
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Speaker 1: been fired in the NFL. It happens literally to everybody.
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Speaker 1: Belichick's been fired, Andy Reid's been fired, you name it.
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Speaker 1: They have been canted. It's part of the business. It's
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Speaker 1: very unique that way. You can work twenty hours a day,
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Speaker 1: fifty two weeks a year. You can grind. You could
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Speaker 1: be the first one there, the last one out of
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Speaker 1: the building, give all your effort, pour everything you have
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Speaker 1: into the operation, and you lose, you get canned. That's
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Speaker 1: part of the gig. And somehow with his Pittsburgh and listen.
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Speaker 1: He deserves credit because they never lose, but they're going
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Speaker 1: nowhere fast. So I just wonder, if you're him, why
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Speaker 1: do you want to keep doing this, especially now when
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Speaker 1: you're looking at this team with all these older players,
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Speaker 1: with this financial cap situation that isn't great. With your
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Speaker 1: best wide receiver is not a dependable human. You have
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Speaker 1: no quarterback, and it's not like you're drafting in the
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Speaker 1: top five to acquire one of the top couple guys,
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Speaker 1: assuming that another quarterback comes out as well as Fernando Mendoza.
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Speaker 1: That the future looks pretty dark. It looks pretty bleak.
11:08
Speaker 1: And while they've had some pretty embarrassing games over the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, you could argue this one might
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Speaker 1: take the cake. Thirty to six at home to a
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the first half that fumbled four times. He
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Speaker 1: gave you two of them. He also threw an interception
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Speaker 1: that hit your dB in the numbers like they gave
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Speaker 1: you three turnovers. It was playing out like a classic, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: just weird stuff happening, and this you know, it was
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Speaker 1: at one point in time of seven to three, seven
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Speaker 1: to six, like go, this is a weird game until
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Speaker 1: it wasn't and they could only hold the rope for
11:47
Speaker 1: so long until that thing broke. Because their team stinks.
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Speaker 1: That has to be one of the worst headed seven
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Speaker 1: teams you'll ever see. They have no chance of doing
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Speaker 1: anything in the playoffs. None like the Packers, for example,
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Speaker 1: they went nine seven and one. You wouldn't even compare
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Speaker 1: those two teams to each other. The Packers were a
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Speaker 1: real playoff team who could win a playoff game. The
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Speaker 1: Steelers were not. I believe that they would lose to
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Speaker 1: all other six opponents. I also believe if they played
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Speaker 1: the Ravens ten times with the team the Ravens rolled
12:20
Speaker 1: out with Lamar Jackson on that Sunday, they lose most
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Speaker 1: of those. And if the Ravens, who Steve Bushatti has
12:28
Speaker 1: entered the chat of being, you know, running an operation
12:31
Speaker 1: like the Miami Heat, like the Pittsburgh Steelers, like the
12:34
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, like the LA Dodgers or the New
12:37
Speaker 1: York Yankees. They are one of the organizations that you
12:41
Speaker 1: would say is cream of the crop, well run, stable,
12:45
Speaker 1: has unlimited resources, will do whatever it takes manufacturing the
12:49
Speaker 1: Nausi's there and they're like, we gotta hear you're just done, John,
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Speaker 1: not because we think you're some bumb but it's time
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Speaker 1: to change. Why can't the Steelers do that? And I'm
12:57
Speaker 1: done saying they should because I don't expect them to
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Speaker 1: do so, I'll say this, if you're Mike tomin like,
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Speaker 1: get out now, man, like ask for a trade. Sean
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Speaker 1: Payton saw the riding on the wall and he just quit.
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Speaker 1: He said, peace deuces. Huh, I'm just gonna retire. He
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Speaker 1: didn't retire, He just wanted out of there, but he
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Speaker 1: couldn't really force a trade. Probably felt a little bad.
13:18
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis was his boy, so he's quit for a year.
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Speaker 1: He always wanted to come right back. What did you do?
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Speaker 1: He immediately jumped back in and they essentially had to
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Speaker 1: trade for him. So Mike Toalman could do something like that,
13:28
Speaker 1: or he could just be like, Hey, that Atlanta job
13:31
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. I wouldn't mind moving my family to Miami. Like, hey,
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Speaker 1: the Giants. If John Harbor doesn't come there, I'm interested.
13:40
Speaker 1: I see you got a lot of pieces. Your division
13:42
Speaker 1: doesn't look that difficult, especially after watching the Eagles the
13:45
Speaker 1: other night. Hey give me a bus. It just makes
13:48
Speaker 1: sense all things you know in life literally come to
13:52
Speaker 1: an end. Right. There are two guarantees in life, taxes
13:55
Speaker 1: and death. And in the NFL, most people tell you
13:58
Speaker 1: get fired. Most players tell you like most guys get cut.
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Speaker 1: The overwhelming percentage of players and their career through a release.
14:08
Speaker 1: I'm talking Hall of Fame players. There's a small percentage
14:12
Speaker 1: of guys that just like retire on their own. That's
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Speaker 1: not usually the way it works. And same thing with coaches.
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Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday of the John Harbaugh kind of exit. And
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Speaker 1: one theme in there is the owner started noticing that
16:40
Speaker 1: the crowds weren't as good and they had just lost
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Speaker 1: worst place you can ever be is the people that
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Speaker 1: watch you, the people that are fans of your team,
16:57
Speaker 1: they become apathetic. Once apathy he sinks in it, and
17:01
Speaker 1: they don't care. I had a wise man tell me
17:03
Speaker 1: one time, when it comes to dating advice is listen,
17:07
Speaker 1: if she hates you, that ain't the worst thing, because
17:10
Speaker 1: she's thinking about you. Obviously, the best case is she
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Speaker 1: loves you. But the moment she stops thinking about you,
17:16
Speaker 1: it's a rap. And that's what it kind of feels like.
17:19
Speaker 1: The Steeler fans have kind of come to grips with
17:23
Speaker 1: It's like this same old song and dance over and
17:26
Speaker 1: over and over. Yeah, we're not the Arizona Cardinals, right,
17:29
Speaker 1: We're not the Tennessee Titans. We're never gonna bottom out
17:32
Speaker 1: and be some laughing stock like the New York Jets.
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Speaker 1: But this also isn't really fun. And Mike Tomlin has
17:39
Speaker 1: to know that he's been around football his entire life,
17:43
Speaker 1: and I understand being the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers
17:45
Speaker 1: comes with great prestige. Right, It's a real big job
17:51
Speaker 1: in this country. The NFL is one of our biggest
17:53
Speaker 1: businesses in America, and he's the head coach of one
17:56
Speaker 1: of its most important franchises. So it's easy for me
18:00
Speaker 1: to say, like, hey, just go to the Atlanta Falcons.
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Speaker 1: Like it's a little different animal. You know, it's like
18:04
Speaker 1: coaching the SEC or coaching in the Big twelve. You know,
18:06
Speaker 1: it's like some things come with a little more credibility.
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Speaker 1: But I think they're at the point now that if
18:12
Speaker 1: you're Mike Tomlin, you got to ask yourself, like maybe
18:15
Speaker 1: you go to them and go it's time. Well let's
18:18
Speaker 1: just go our separate ways. Cause I'll be fine. I'm
18:20
Speaker 1: fifty three years old. If I took a year off
18:23
Speaker 1: on TV. His stock would skyrocket that they just announced
18:29
Speaker 1: al Michaels is coming back to Amazon, which love al
18:32
Speaker 1: Michael's absolute living legend. I wouldn't say he's actually, you know,
18:37
Speaker 1: still throwing ninety eight. You know, he reminds me of
18:40
Speaker 1: Tim Linskin first came on the scene ninety seven, ninety
18:42
Speaker 1: eight winning Cy Young's by the end, it's going about
18:44
Speaker 1: eighty miles an hour. But you put Mike Tomlin with them,
18:48
Speaker 1: you know Herbstreet's done a commendable job. He's tried. He's
18:51
Speaker 1: not an NFL guy. You put tom in that situation.
18:53
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, they wanted Sean McVay get
18:55
Speaker 1: a big personality. He'd have every job opening in America
18:59
Speaker 1: lined up for him if he doesn't like, you know,
19:01
Speaker 1: any of the options this year. But this Pittsburgh thing
19:05
Speaker 1: is just clearly over. And when it comes to the quarterback,
19:09
Speaker 1: clearly they thought at the end of the game that
19:11
Speaker 1: this is Aaron Rodgers last game. He's told people that,
19:14
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's been saying this. Did he
19:18
Speaker 1: believed this would probably be his last season. Watching that
19:21
Speaker 1: game and watching him get the living you know what
19:24
Speaker 1: kicked out of him. He started asking himself, like, what
19:26
Speaker 1: are you doing this for? What do you have to prove?
19:28
Speaker 1: You got the MVPs, You've won the Super Bowl. You're
19:31
Speaker 1: clearly one of the great players in the history of
19:34
Speaker 1: the league. I know sometimes it ends a little poorly.
19:37
Speaker 1: The Jets thing was such a joke. People forget. I
19:39
Speaker 1: saw him live in the peak of his career countless times.
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Speaker 1: He is as good as it gets, you know, and listen.
19:46
Speaker 1: I think you could almost say he underachieved in a
19:49
Speaker 1: weird way because he probably should have gone to more
19:52
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I mean, hell, he went to countless championship
19:55
Speaker 1: games and the famous one in Seattle where they had
19:57
Speaker 1: the big lead and they blew it. That definitely was
19:59
Speaker 1: there to get I thought their team when they lost
20:01
Speaker 1: to Tampa in twenty twenty should have won the Super Bowl.
20:06
Speaker 1: Other than they were the best team in the league.
20:07
Speaker 1: So they're probably a couple teams, but that probably Peyton
20:09
Speaker 1: Manning probably tell you about a couple of teams that
20:11
Speaker 1: he had that you know, should have hoisted the Lombardi
20:14
Speaker 1: and they didn't even make it to the Super Bowl.
20:15
Speaker 1: So it comes to the territory. It's pro sports. It's hard,
20:18
Speaker 1: but I think if you're him and you're getting Pepper
20:22
Speaker 1: tonight by Will Anderson and daneil Hunter, who looked like
20:25
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor meets Reggie White. He started asking yourself, well,
20:29
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this for the money, because I played
20:31
Speaker 1: this season for ten million dollars. I've accumulated hundreds of those,
20:35
Speaker 1: so like, I don't need the money. Clearly, you know,
20:39
Speaker 1: for the first time in several years, he definitely flew
20:42
Speaker 1: a little under the radar. I saw someone tweeting the
20:45
Speaker 1: most fascinating part of Aaron Rodgers is he's easily the
20:49
Speaker 1: most famous human, especially in this country, that wears a
20:53
Speaker 1: wedding ring that we have no clue who his wife is.
20:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt that Jig exists,
21:00
Speaker 1: but we don't know. And he's a complex individual. I mean,
21:06
Speaker 1: I tried to watch the Netflix documentary about ayahuasca. My
21:10
Speaker 1: wife made me turn it off about halfway through episode two.
21:16
Speaker 1: But I stand by. As a player, it didn't get
21:18
Speaker 1: any better than him in his prime. I grew up
21:21
Speaker 1: on Brett Favre and by the time he had his stride,
21:24
Speaker 1: he owned my favorite team, the forty nine ers. Marty
21:26
Speaker 1: Morningwig told me once when I worked for the Eagles,
21:29
Speaker 1: and I think Andy reiterated this in his prime ninety five,
21:34
Speaker 1: ninety six, ninety seven when he won three straight MVPs.
21:37
Speaker 1: You'd be hard pressed to ever find a player in
21:39
Speaker 1: NFL history who was better than him in those moments
21:42
Speaker 1: for those that three year stretch. And they upgraded a
21:46
Speaker 1: quarterback when they when Aaron Rodgers, you know, hit his
21:49
Speaker 1: stride for a decade. That's how good Aaron Rodgers was.
21:52
Speaker 1: And historically, I think most people would argue that if
21:55
Speaker 1: you were just ranking quarterbacks, right, Brady Montana, Mahomes, Marino,
22:02
Speaker 1: l Way, whatever, most people putting Rodgers above far So
22:08
Speaker 1: I would I think if you were taking both guys
22:10
Speaker 1: in their prime, I think Rogers was better. And that's
22:14
Speaker 1: I think Farv is remarkable. And we're talking about guys
22:16
Speaker 1: somewhere between like four and six. That's how good the
22:19
Speaker 1: Packers have had it for back to back years. Josie
22:21
Speaker 1: Jordan Love I said forever, I was very lucky, Like
22:24
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, Steve Young got KOed
22:27
Speaker 1: and I just got Jeff Garcia for like four or
22:29
Speaker 1: five years and he was going to Pro Bowls. Now
22:31
Speaker 1: he's not Steve Young or Joe Montana, but you just
22:35
Speaker 1: get you just go from a legend to a pro bowler.
22:38
Speaker 1: Did you know how lucky you are? Do you know
22:40
Speaker 1: what the Cleveland Browns would do just for like the
22:43
Speaker 1: fifteenth best quarterback in the NFL. You know what the
22:46
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals would do just for like a ten year starter?
22:49
Speaker 1: You know what most I don't think the Chancy Chiefs
22:51
Speaker 1: had ever drafted a Pro Bowl quarterback before Patrick Mahomes.
22:56
Speaker 1: So it's very, very difficult to do. And that's you know,
22:59
Speaker 1: the Steeler found this guy from Miami of Ohio who
23:02
Speaker 1: became a superstar and a dominant Hall of Fame player,
23:06
Speaker 1: and they haven't been the same since he left. And
23:10
Speaker 1: Aaron did a I thought admirable job. You have to
23:13
Speaker 1: respect a guy playing through like Justin. Herbert's trying to
23:17
Speaker 1: prove himself, right, people, everyone's ripping him today, can't win
23:21
Speaker 1: a playoff game this year, breaks his arm or you know,
23:24
Speaker 1: hand or wrist, just like Aaron Rodgers and just battles
23:27
Speaker 1: through it. Why He's trying to prove to his own coach,
23:29
Speaker 1: to his own organization, Prove he's worth the money, Prove
23:32
Speaker 1: he can win a playoff game. Aaron Rodgers has nothing
23:35
Speaker 1: to prove, absolutely nothing, and he was out there getting
23:38
Speaker 1: the shit kicked out of him with the you know
23:42
Speaker 1: cast on his left hand for the last couple of months.
23:46
Speaker 1: Without him that they would have no shot. So you know, listen,
23:50
Speaker 1: this is usually how it ends. Like. I wasn't alive
23:54
Speaker 1: when Willie Mays finished his career for the Mets. Like
23:57
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Emmitt Smith played for the
23:59
Speaker 1: Arizona Card. A lot of legendary Hall of Fame players
24:03
Speaker 1: don't go off on the podium with the Lombardi Trophy
24:06
Speaker 1: in their hand, like John Elway. Peyton Manning won a
24:09
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as last year struggled to make you know,
24:13
Speaker 1: a twenty yard out route throw Tom Brady is last year,
24:16
Speaker 1: didn't this team go eight to nine and get boat
24:19
Speaker 1: raced by the Cowboys in the playoffs. I think Dak
24:21
Speaker 1: Prescott through five touchdowns in that game and Brady got
24:25
Speaker 1: the crap kicked out of him there. It's like, what
24:26
Speaker 1: are you doing this for? Brady's like I love football.
24:29
Speaker 1: Rogers clearly loves football, but he can't move like he
24:33
Speaker 1: once could. He'll be able to throw the ball. I've
24:35
Speaker 1: said this forever about Dan Marino. I bet if you
24:38
Speaker 1: just get through Dan a ball and probably a little
24:41
Speaker 1: red man in his mouth, get him looped up, he
24:44
Speaker 1: could still rip a thirty yard strike like he could
24:46
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Aaron Rodgers gonna be able to throw
24:49
Speaker 1: a bullet when he's sixty five years old. But he
24:52
Speaker 1: can't move anymore. And you're a human being, you don't
24:56
Speaker 1: really want to get hit anymore, so you're much more
24:59
Speaker 1: or you're much less likely to stay in there for
25:02
Speaker 1: that extra quarter half second. Brady was clearly like that,
25:06
Speaker 1: which I totally understand if I was in my mid forties.
25:09
Speaker 1: Kids like Brady married like Rogers, like I'm not letting
25:13
Speaker 1: Will Anderson, who the Texans are about to give one
25:16
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars hit me in my sternum
25:20
Speaker 1: and put me in a hospital tonight, Like I have
25:23
Speaker 1: no desire to do that, but to play quarterback at
25:26
Speaker 1: the highest level't those thoughts can't even cross your mind.
25:30
Speaker 1: And that's why you watch these guys in the prime
25:32
Speaker 1: of their career, Josh Allen mahomes Lamar, they're just playing.
25:38
Speaker 1: And forever for Rogers, he was just playing. And like
25:41
Speaker 1: those guys. He was better than everybody, and his just
25:45
Speaker 1: playing was borderline unstoppable, and the Packers actually let him
25:48
Speaker 1: down several years with bad defenses. He's got to be
25:52
Speaker 1: watching now they get Jeff Haffley, Like, if you ever
25:54
Speaker 1: had a defense like they've had the last couple of years.
25:56
Speaker 1: They probably have multiple other Super Bowl appearances, especially in
25:59
Speaker 1: some of the years, and they had just awesome offenses.
26:02
Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to say it's over. And
26:07
Speaker 1: I think the NFL's very been very good at this,
26:10
Speaker 1: not that they control any of it, but they've always
26:13
Speaker 1: had a wave of guys leave and then new guys
26:17
Speaker 1: come in. And you know, the Rogers, Brady Manning, Rivers,
26:24
Speaker 1: Eli Roethlisberger, those guys all phased out and Mahomes, Josh Lamar,
26:31
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert. You know, a lot of these
26:34
Speaker 1: guys just showed up and they've carried the mantle. And
26:37
Speaker 1: obviously the NFL has never been more popular and the
26:41
Speaker 1: offense has never been easier to play. But you know,
26:45
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers in the prime of his career could
26:48
Speaker 1: have played with some of these rules, it wouldn't have
26:50
Speaker 1: been a fair fight. And I sound like get off
26:52
Speaker 1: my lawn, old guy. But it's just a fact. Like
26:55
Speaker 1: watch some Michael Jordan highlights. They could tackle you in
26:58
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Guy never fucking missed a jump shot.
27:01
Speaker 1: And I think Aaron Rodgers just can't move like he
27:04
Speaker 1: wants good, So he's kind of a sitting duck. But
27:07
Speaker 1: his understanding of the game, knowing like their team just
27:09
Speaker 1: had no chance, kind of sad the way he's going out,
27:13
Speaker 1: But it's just like I said, it's usually the way
27:15
Speaker 1: it happens. Other than that on this game. Obviously, the
27:18
Speaker 1: Houston Texans advance. They let me, let me pull up
27:22
Speaker 1: the schedule here because we have a divisional round and
27:27
Speaker 1: they will play the New England Patriots on Sunday afternoon,
27:32
Speaker 1: so hopefully i'm my baby is born, I'm home, hopefully
27:36
Speaker 1: home Saturday, so I can watch those games, especially the
27:38
Speaker 1: night or Seattle game. She already bought him like a
27:41
Speaker 1: little Niner onesie, so hopefully we were back for that.
27:43
Speaker 1: But you know, it's out of my hands. As the
27:45
Speaker 1: pediatrician told me, you gotta just take your hands off
27:48
Speaker 1: the steering wheel and just let them guide you. So
27:51
Speaker 1: the the we're keeping our fingers crossed. But if we can't,
27:55
Speaker 1: just hopefully I'll see you guys on Sunday, and that
27:59
Speaker 1: would be Houston at New England, which Houston's defense can
28:02
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. There is not a front like
28:06
Speaker 1: that playing right now in the league. Seattle's front is
28:09
Speaker 1: pretty good. It ain't that they don't have Daneel Hunter
28:12
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson's that's it. I actually and for those
28:16
Speaker 1: of you that are watching on Netflix, which probably some
28:20
Speaker 1: of you guys have also listened to the podcast. When
28:21
Speaker 1: John Schneider came on, I remember a couple games they
28:26
Speaker 1: played Seattle relatively early in the year, and I remember
28:29
Speaker 1: texting him about Houston. He's like, bro, their defense, that
28:33
Speaker 1: the team speed and physicality they have, and he started
28:36
Speaker 1: listing the names of their linebackers and secondary He wasn't
28:39
Speaker 1: even talking about their front. And Will Anderson is just
28:45
Speaker 1: he's someone you build a franchise around. And he's not
28:47
Speaker 1: even as good as Danel Hunter and they have multiple corners.
28:52
Speaker 1: I don't even know what could position you'd consider Peatree
28:56
Speaker 1: playing like do it all. I was telling my wife tonight,
28:58
Speaker 1: it's like he's kind of like Hufunga but better in
29:02
Speaker 1: the open field. But in terms of physicality. Playing downhill,
29:05
Speaker 1: they will knock the crap out of you. The question
29:08
Speaker 1: with them is their offense and specifically the quarterback, because
29:12
Speaker 1: cj just pure talent. He can make individual plays. We're like, God,
29:16
Speaker 1: that's beautiful, that's a great throw. And then he can
29:19
Speaker 1: make plays like is that the worst play I saw
29:21
Speaker 1: all weekend? He had four fumbles in the first half. Now,
29:25
Speaker 1: granted they picked a couple of them up, he also
29:27
Speaker 1: lost two and the interception was horrendous. And I think
29:32
Speaker 1: part of the problem for the Texans is they are
29:36
Speaker 1: built to have a guy like Brad Johnson or Trent
29:39
Speaker 1: Dilfer or even like this version that the forty nine
29:41
Speaker 1: ers had a Mac Jones. It's like, I know my role,
29:45
Speaker 1: tell me what to do. You know the problem for CJS.
29:47
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm the second overall pick, I'm a player.
29:51
Speaker 1: I can make plays. And he's not totally wrong. He
29:55
Speaker 1: has a skill set to make plays. But this team
29:58
Speaker 1: does not need a playmaker because sometimes when you're making
30:00
Speaker 1: plays help mahomes lamar Josh, all these bad things happen,
30:06
Speaker 1: and we cannot afford with the way we're built. We
30:09
Speaker 1: don't need to give them the ball. We don't need
30:11
Speaker 1: to give them any possession because our defense when the
30:13
Speaker 1: possessions they have, will dominate them. Just run the offense,
30:18
Speaker 1: be careful with the ball. Worst case scenario, throw it away,
30:22
Speaker 1: take a sack. Bro like there were times to night
30:25
Speaker 1: where it felt like he was playing on a team
30:28
Speaker 1: that needed a guy to score four touchdowns on his own.
30:30
Speaker 1: It's like, CJ, that is not this game. And you
30:33
Speaker 1: look across and Demiko, I mean, the guy was born
30:36
Speaker 1: to be a coach. Even at halftime he was like
30:38
Speaker 1: positive about CJ strategy, like, Yeah, we just need to
30:40
Speaker 1: hold on to the ball a little better, hold on
30:42
Speaker 1: the ball a little better. To drop the ball four times.
30:45
Speaker 1: One of them was a bad snap, but the other
30:48
Speaker 1: two they were very preventable. Now, you could also argue
30:52
Speaker 1: calling a flea flicker in the first half. I don't
30:57
Speaker 1: pretend to be some former offensive coordinator or some schematic genius,
31:02
Speaker 1: but part of a flea flicker typically is a little
31:05
Speaker 1: later in the game. So everyone bites on the run,
31:08
Speaker 1: you know, because you've been running it throughout the game.
31:11
Speaker 1: You don't just need the DBS to bite, you need
31:14
Speaker 1: the defensive line to respect it. Well. The defensive line
31:18
Speaker 1: didn't respect it at all, and CJ just gets obliterated.
31:21
Speaker 1: So you could put that one on the offensive coordinator
31:24
Speaker 1: more than the quarterback. But holy moly, CJ was trying
31:29
Speaker 1: to hand the Steelers the game and this goes back.
31:31
Speaker 1: They're so bad. He could have given them three more turnovers,
31:34
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered. The Steelers had two. I think
31:39
Speaker 1: they had two conversions on third down all night long.
31:41
Speaker 1: They were like two to thirteen or two of fourteen.
31:43
Speaker 1: They're horrendous. So I just think the question mark now
31:47
Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans is the quarterback and him going
31:51
Speaker 1: on the road to New England. Listen, I just don't
31:55
Speaker 1: trust him. And now Nico Collins is surely out, But
31:58
Speaker 1: the defense alone can win them the game. And I
32:02
Speaker 1: just wouldn't bet against this Houston Texas team. So on
32:04
Speaker 1: initial thought, that is going to be a very very
32:07
Speaker 1: difficult matchup for Drake May. Chargers defense is good. This
32:11
Speaker 1: defense right now is elite and they literally will hurt you.
32:16
Speaker 1: So if New England wins that game, they could win
32:19
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But I think Houston's defense alone, if
32:22
Speaker 1: CJ and the offense can just give them, I don't know.
32:25
Speaker 1: Ten points and maybe they can account for another touchdown
32:28
Speaker 1: and they get to like fifteen seventeen points range. I
32:31
Speaker 1: think they can win the game. Hell, you just saw
32:33
Speaker 1: for most of the game yesterday, it's not like New
32:36
Speaker 1: England was scoring. So I think I like Houston in
32:39
Speaker 1: that game. Now, big picture, could they make a Super
32:42
Speaker 1: Bowl run? Hard to say that with the play that
32:46
Speaker 1: we just saw out of the quarterback, because he just
32:48
Speaker 1: makes too many poor plays. Even there was one where
32:51
Speaker 1: he like stepped up in the pocket. It was beautiful.
32:55
Speaker 1: He kind of scrambled around then stepped up. Nico Collins
32:58
Speaker 1: was running all by himself and CJ's not This isn't
33:02
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams where he's throwing one hundred miles an hour
33:05
Speaker 1: all the time. Like in theory, touch should be a
33:07
Speaker 1: huge part of his game. All you gonna do is
33:09
Speaker 1: just like that. That should be a throw that CJ.
33:11
Speaker 1: Stroud the player makes ninety percent of the time. And
33:16
Speaker 1: I don't know if Kevin Garnett could have caught that ball.
33:19
Speaker 1: So that that's what would make me concerned about the
33:22
Speaker 1: Texans because from a from the well, they're well coached.
33:26
Speaker 1: I mean, Demiko's a stud. Their defense is elite. Their
33:30
Speaker 1: offense plays hard. I mean, Christian Kirk tonight was awesome,
33:33
Speaker 1: Woody Marks was running his ass off. But Nico Collins
33:37
Speaker 1: is surely going to be gone for this game. But
33:38
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe Christian Gonzalez will two. So what to
33:42
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that matchup. But listen, you should
33:44
Speaker 1: be fired up. You typically they win in the first round,
33:47
Speaker 1: it's at home when they're the four seeds. So going
33:49
Speaker 1: on the road in a cold environment and winning a
33:52
Speaker 1: game was a final score thirty to six. Picking off
33:56
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and probably his last career pass is something
33:59
Speaker 1: you can be pretty excited about. Let's get to a
34:15
Speaker 1: story I saw today that I said, ooh, there's something there.
34:20
Speaker 1: Chris Mara, who is John Morrow's brother, unlike most owners,
34:27
Speaker 1: to my knowledge in texting around the people, really likes football,
34:31
Speaker 1: like fancies himself as a football guy, likes personnel. Is
34:36
Speaker 1: technically like one of the high up personnel executives on
34:40
Speaker 1: the Giants. And someone told me that years ago they
34:45
Speaker 1: had thought about just making him the general manager, but
34:48
Speaker 1: cooler heads prevailed and they realized you don't want a
34:51
Speaker 1: GM that you can't fire because the guy owns the team.
34:54
Speaker 1: And the Giants playing in the NFC East have a
34:58
Speaker 1: good idea what that looks like. With Jerry Jones creates
35:01
Speaker 1: a lot of stories that are just unnecessary in a
35:04
Speaker 1: lot of noise, So they always name a general manager.
35:07
Speaker 1: Joe Shane is the current GM, but Chris Marr reviews
35:10
Speaker 1: himself as a personnel man. Once upon a time, someone
35:14
Speaker 1: told me that Chris Mara, back when Jerry Reese was there,
35:18
Speaker 1: he would have him and his scouting staff, and then
35:21
Speaker 1: like Marrow would have a little personnel staff. So he's
35:24
Speaker 1: every bit the owner that John is too, but he
35:27
Speaker 1: likes personnel, the draft going over players, and he went
35:32
Speaker 1: on a solo mission to John Harbaugh's home in Baltimore.
35:37
Speaker 1: And the first thing I thought of when I read
35:39
Speaker 1: that headline is that ain't good if you're the GM,
35:43
Speaker 1: because if he wanted to pitch the if I was
35:47
Speaker 1: the owner and I was going to John Harbaugh's home
35:50
Speaker 1: when the GM is running the coaching search, you would
35:55
Speaker 1: think that he would bring him along, especially because it's
35:58
Speaker 1: been reported that Joe and John Harbaugh had a conversation
36:02
Speaker 1: last week. I would imagine because obviously John is going
36:07
Speaker 1: through cancer treatment and probably unable to be as active
36:12
Speaker 1: as he would normally be as they go through a
36:14
Speaker 1: lot of these coaching searches. I mean they've been running
36:16
Speaker 1: through coaches, you know, like you do practice squad players
36:19
Speaker 1: over the last decade. That Chris is kind of pretty
36:24
Speaker 1: important in this whole thing. And if he's not that
36:28
Speaker 1: big on Joe Shane, and clearly John Harbaugh, if he
36:31
Speaker 1: wants his own guy would clearly be comfortable telling him
36:35
Speaker 1: when he's sitting on his couch over a cocktail. So
36:40
Speaker 1: my guess is this, if John Harbaugh told Chris Mara,
36:45
Speaker 1: which multiple people have reported, he's interested in the Giant's job,
36:51
Speaker 1: Joe Shane and a lot of Giants fans asked this question,
36:54
Speaker 1: and it was very fair to ask, how does Brian
36:56
Speaker 1: Daball lose his job and the guy that came with
36:58
Speaker 1: him as a package deal keep it job? And there's
37:02
Speaker 1: not really been an answer. Well, the answer might be
37:04
Speaker 1: is John Harbaugh might force his hand on that one
37:08
Speaker 1: and put Joe Shane with Brian Dable no longer employed
37:12
Speaker 1: by the New York Giants. So the longer this thing goes,
37:17
Speaker 1: I do have a hard time seeing John Harbaugh coach
37:19
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins. I've said this forever. I've been
37:22
Speaker 1: there a couple times. It's beautiful. I mean, it's hard
37:24
Speaker 1: to beat South Florida. I can't even imagine what it's
37:27
Speaker 1: like having like John Harball level money, the neighborhoods, you
37:30
Speaker 1: could shop in the life, you could lead Harbor's and
37:34
Speaker 1: football guys man. When Jim Harbaugh got the job for
37:38
Speaker 1: the Chargers, he lived in a Winnebago. He lived in
37:41
Speaker 1: a trailer park with Greg Roman, and he loved it.
37:45
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh would coach an NFL team if they had
37:47
Speaker 1: a good quarterback in North Dakota. John Harbaugh feels like
37:51
Speaker 1: a Northeast guy. John Harbaugh's lived in the Northeast from
37:54
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight to twenty twenty five when he got
37:57
Speaker 1: hired by the Philadelphia Eagles and up through last week
38:00
Speaker 1: when he was fired by Steve Bushatti. He does feel
38:05
Speaker 1: if he truly wants to win, and he doesn't just
38:08
Speaker 1: want one hundred million dollars in just a little less pressure,
38:10
Speaker 1: because that's what Miami would be. But from a pure
38:13
Speaker 1: football standpoint, especially if the Giants are like, hey, man,
38:17
Speaker 1: if you want to bring one of your homies from
38:19
Speaker 1: the Ravens to run personnel. Clearly, Ozzie's produced a lot
38:23
Speaker 1: of good little underlinks who have gone on to be
38:26
Speaker 1: gms and know what they're doing. If you want in,
38:28
Speaker 1: we'll do it. If I was a betting man right now,
38:33
Speaker 1: assuming all the reports are true about that that conversation
38:37
Speaker 1: and time they spent going well, I would say Joe
38:40
Speaker 1: Shane would be in major trouble. And if John Harbaugh
38:42
Speaker 1: is the next coach of the New York Giants, I
38:45
Speaker 1: think it would be stunning if he kept his gig,
38:47
Speaker 1: And if he did, it would be one of those
38:50
Speaker 1: situations where he held on for like eight months and
38:53
Speaker 1: he was neutered at the draft and has no juice
38:56
Speaker 1: and is essentially a dead man walking, which happens constantly.
39:00
Speaker 1: I remember when I was living in the Barry, it
39:02
Speaker 1: happened with John Gruden and Reggie Mackenzie. Now John made
39:06
Speaker 1: the mistake, and I like Mike Mayock a lot, but
39:08
Speaker 1: hiring a guy that had never worked in the NFL
39:10
Speaker 1: as a personnel man, Obviously, John would surely hire someone
39:14
Speaker 1: from the Ravens who trained their guys as well as
39:17
Speaker 1: anyone in the league. So I think if you're Joe
39:21
Speaker 1: Shane and you saw that story, especially if you didn't
39:23
Speaker 1: know about it, probably not sleeping great. And the other
39:27
Speaker 1: coaching story, you know. Schefter reported on Monday morning that
39:31
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur all signs are that they will figure out
39:34
Speaker 1: a deal, and clearly Matt wants a big race and
39:38
Speaker 1: a big extension. A lot of Packer fans are frustrated
39:41
Speaker 1: that they can't figure it out in the playoffs and they've
39:43
Speaker 1: had some devastating losses. I mean, there's no disputing that
39:47
Speaker 1: the game to Tampa years ago with Rogers. They lost
39:50
Speaker 1: a game a couple of years ago to the forty
39:52
Speaker 1: nine ers where they were kicking their butt in the
39:55
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs, and nothing was worse than
39:59
Speaker 1: giving up twenty five points. It's in the fourth quarter too.
40:02
Speaker 1: It's weird calling them their hated rival. But the rivalry, well,
40:07
Speaker 1: it's a historic rivalry. It never really mattered that much.
40:11
Speaker 1: It feels like it's gone zero to sixty fast. This
40:13
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson Lafour thing is is pretty fun. So Michaeh.
40:18
Speaker 1: Parsons came out and the Packers aren't one of those
40:21
Speaker 1: teams with you know, the trading picks for players. If anything,
40:26
Speaker 1: over Rogers era. They were the most conservative team in
40:29
Speaker 1: the league when it came to personnel. They pumped their
40:32
Speaker 1: chest about Charles Woodson. Like Charles Woodson didn't have a
40:36
Speaker 1: big market. When they signed him, he became like resurrected
40:39
Speaker 1: his career, became a superstar, kind of validated his Hall
40:42
Speaker 1: of Fame career. But when they acquired him, it wasn't
40:46
Speaker 1: like when they acquired Reggie White in nineteen ninety three. Right,
40:50
Speaker 1: it was kind of slim pickens for Charles at the time.
40:53
Speaker 1: And I think this Micah Parsons thing was out of
40:57
Speaker 1: their comfort zone. And listen, it was the right move.
40:59
Speaker 1: He was awesome for them, and injuries happen, it sucks.
41:04
Speaker 1: But when he came out today and said, part of
41:07
Speaker 1: the reason that I wanted to come here not only
41:10
Speaker 1: okayed the trade, but wanted to sign a big extension
41:12
Speaker 1: was because of Lafloor and went on and on and on.
41:17
Speaker 1: That's just not a normal player saying that, like that's
41:20
Speaker 1: just going to hold a lot of juice. And they
41:22
Speaker 1: don't have an owner. So for ed Policy, who's never
41:26
Speaker 1: run a team before just this year becoming the president
41:29
Speaker 1: for Murphy, I think that puts a lot of pressure
41:32
Speaker 1: on you to kind of keep it going. So unless
41:34
Speaker 1: there are internal things that we don't know about, which
41:37
Speaker 1: don't seem to be the case. Packers obviously blow some
41:42
Speaker 1: late games, not great, and they got I'm not acting
41:45
Speaker 1: like Lafleur's the perfect coach. But when Micah Parsons did that,
41:48
Speaker 1: I went, I don't think they're going to be able
41:50
Speaker 1: to move on from and let's face it, they moved
41:52
Speaker 1: on from. Who are they going to hire? But it
41:56
Speaker 1: feels like that kind of solidified, like he's going to
41:58
Speaker 1: be okay a couple other things around the NFL. I
42:03
Speaker 1: do think we have a little bit of like an
42:05
Speaker 1: epidemic of these coaches going for it, and I think
42:08
Speaker 1: there's a consistent theme. I've always said, you'll never meet
42:12
Speaker 1: a fan who, in big spots Layton games, don't want
42:17
Speaker 1: their coach to be aggressive, right, go for it, go
42:21
Speaker 1: for the kill shot. Like I would say, most fans
42:23
Speaker 1: on their couch are at the game. You heard it
42:25
Speaker 1: tonight when Rogers stayed on the field early in the
42:28
Speaker 1: game for a fourth down they ended up getting it.
42:31
Speaker 1: I think the thieling, you get loud standing ovations. Most
42:35
Speaker 1: human beings aren't like, just kick the field goal. But
42:41
Speaker 1: I do think that we've jumped the shark a little
42:43
Speaker 1: bit when it comes to the first half of these games.
42:46
Speaker 1: Part of the reason you do that in the second
42:48
Speaker 1: half is, Hey, your defense is playing like crap. Hey
42:51
Speaker 1: you can't get a stop to save your life. Hey,
42:54
Speaker 1: we're down x number of points. A field goal doesn't
42:57
Speaker 1: do us any good here. You start doing the math,
42:59
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, you're gonna need two touchdowns to even
43:01
Speaker 1: tie this game. But in the first half of games,
43:05
Speaker 1: you have no clue how the thing's gonna play out.
43:08
Speaker 1: You have no clue as the game goes, if someone's
43:10
Speaker 1: gonna get injured, if something is gonna substantially change from
43:14
Speaker 1: a schematic standpoint, as teams often do. If a team
43:18
Speaker 1: that look like, you know, the greatest offense you've ever seen,
43:22
Speaker 1: goes to a team that can't gain a yard, it
43:24
Speaker 1: happens all the time. Yet Liam Cohen, Sean McVay, and
43:28
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson all in their games early on went for it.
43:34
Speaker 1: I thought pretty recklessly on fourth down, and Liam Cohen
43:39
Speaker 1: and obviously he lost, you know, he goes for it.
43:44
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is down whatever a couple of inches, short
43:46
Speaker 1: of the line. Josh Allen drives them down for a touchdown.
43:50
Speaker 1: So it's a ten point swing in the game. This
43:53
Speaker 1: is the first half. This isn't the fourth quarter where
43:57
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we're up four points, make it eleven,
44:00
Speaker 1: let's end them. This is the first half. It's a
44:03
Speaker 1: seven to three game. Just take the points. Make it
44:06
Speaker 1: a ten to three game. You're have a touchdown, Sean McVeigh.
44:10
Speaker 1: It was seventeen to seven. A field goal makes it
44:13
Speaker 1: twenty to seven. You're playing Bryce Young, not Cam Newton,
44:17
Speaker 1: and Luke Keagley, like what are we talking about here?
44:20
Speaker 1: And Ben Johnson went for it on his own thirty
44:22
Speaker 1: yard line. It's like, Ben, it's freezy cold. Let's just
44:25
Speaker 1: see how this situation plays out with the Packers. They're
44:29
Speaker 1: not gonna score in every drive. And what happened in
44:31
Speaker 1: the second half punt punt, punt punt. And I think
44:35
Speaker 1: all three of those guys have in common. They're offensive
44:37
Speaker 1: play colors, which, let's face it, they don't respect or
44:41
Speaker 1: think about the kicker. You know why they think about touchdowns?
44:44
Speaker 1: Who respects kickers? Defensive guys? Why because they're coaching that
44:50
Speaker 1: side of the ball and they want to play in
44:52
Speaker 1: a lower scoring game, and they think about the sport
44:55
Speaker 1: in a lower scoring mindset. Yet all these guys touchdowns, touchdowns, touchdowns,
45:01
Speaker 1: and what do they also like to do, especially Cohen
45:04
Speaker 1: and Sean McVay pass the ball. I just think we
45:08
Speaker 1: got to be a little more careful in the first
45:10
Speaker 1: half of games. Dan Lanning did this a couple of
45:13
Speaker 1: weeks ago against Texas Tech. You have no clue how
45:15
Speaker 1: the game's gonna play out. So if you get a
45:17
Speaker 1: chance to make it nine to nothing when it's six
45:21
Speaker 1: to nothing like that might really matter. And for Dan
45:23
Speaker 1: Lanning it did. The team he was playing couldn't even
45:25
Speaker 1: score a touchdown. But in this notion of like, well
45:29
Speaker 1: that's just what they do, that's just a dumb mindset.
45:32
Speaker 1: I don't respect anyone. It's like, well, this is just
45:34
Speaker 1: what I do well right now. In whatever situation you're in,
45:38
Speaker 1: whether it's football, whatever you do in life, if what
45:42
Speaker 1: you need to do calls for something else and you
45:44
Speaker 1: don't do it, then I just think you're an idiot.
45:46
Speaker 1: I think you're stubborn. And anytime that a coach is stubborn,
45:50
Speaker 1: it will come back to bite them in the ass.
45:53
Speaker 1: So I think some of these offensive coaches need to balance.
45:57
Speaker 1: Like take a field goal. Now, I get if if
46:00
Speaker 1: it's like a fifty yard field goal windy conditions in
46:02
Speaker 1: December in January, I get it. But some of these
46:06
Speaker 1: guys are passing on like twenty yard chip shot field
46:08
Speaker 1: goals when they have the lead in the second quarter.
46:14
Speaker 1: None of us can see ahead how the game's gonna look.
46:17
Speaker 1: No one had the Packers offense just doing nothing for
46:22
Speaker 1: the third quarter, but that's the way it played out.
46:24
Speaker 1: Those points were punting the ball would have really mattered.
46:28
Speaker 1: The other thing for the Bears. Now, I get Ben Johnson,
46:31
Speaker 1: wasn't there. You did draft a punter in the fourth round.
46:34
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, you have one of the best kickers in
46:37
Speaker 1: the league, like Sean. You're up twenty to seven against
46:40
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Is there a soul on this earth that
46:43
Speaker 1: would have believed they could have come back when you
46:46
Speaker 1: went up twenty to seven. No, there is not. So
46:50
Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna change, But I do
46:51
Speaker 1: think a lot of these coaches have gotten a little
46:54
Speaker 1: reckless in the first half of games when it comes
46:57
Speaker 1: to passing on field goals. Okay, a couple other things
47:14
Speaker 1: one thing that has gone pretty viral, and I kind
47:17
Speaker 1: of noticed it, but I wasn't I didn't have the
47:20
Speaker 1: volume up that loud, and I was just I don't know.
47:23
Speaker 1: I was just watching the game more than listening to
47:25
Speaker 1: Nance and Romo. But there were a couple of moments
47:27
Speaker 1: when I was like, what are you to say? Tony
47:30
Speaker 1: Romo a couple of years ago, was just considered the
47:35
Speaker 1: greatest thing in the history of broadcasting. He knew all
47:37
Speaker 1: the plays, he had a big smile. It's like, God,
47:40
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice to have a guy just having fun.
47:42
Speaker 1: And a couple of years later, it feels like universally
47:46
Speaker 1: everyone thinks he stinks. And I was as guilty as
47:49
Speaker 1: anybody when Tom Brady first started. I'm like, Tom one
47:54
Speaker 1: thing I didn't understand about Tom. I do get it.
47:58
Speaker 1: I think once you become this famous, once you become
48:02
Speaker 1: kind of the level of a celebrity of Tom, it's
48:06
Speaker 1: hard to balance on and off the camera. Like the
48:09
Speaker 1: guy Edelman and Gronkowski and his buddies get to see
48:12
Speaker 1: off the camera. We don't get that guy when the
48:14
Speaker 1: camera's on. He just can kind of turn on every
48:16
Speaker 1: once in a while. Now you kind of get it
48:18
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Maybe he's become a little more relaxed.
48:21
Speaker 1: Sometimes you see him on podcasts or when he goes
48:23
Speaker 1: on with Colin, he can be really good, and it
48:25
Speaker 1: felt like he was really uptight, and in fairness to him,
48:27
Speaker 1: he'd never done the job. And we and I again,
48:30
Speaker 1: I'm guilty as anyone on this, I held him to
48:33
Speaker 1: a really high standard. They gave him thirty seven and
48:35
Speaker 1: a half million dollars a year. They gave him a
48:37
Speaker 1: three hundred seventy million dollar contract, So I'm sorry. I
48:39
Speaker 1: was expecting like John Madden meets Joe Montana, and that's
48:42
Speaker 1: not really what we got. But there is no disputing
48:45
Speaker 1: by this time, Tom is extremely relaxed, and it does
48:48
Speaker 1: feel that we just kind of get to hang out
48:50
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady watching a football game now. And he
48:53
Speaker 1: went pretty viral for you know, the clip he had
48:56
Speaker 1: with throwing the ball and you can kind of give
48:58
Speaker 1: him some nerdy stuff, let him hang out, enjoy the game.
49:00
Speaker 1: He kind of made a scream when Juwan Jennings on
49:03
Speaker 1: the pass, like he's just kind of hit a stride.
49:05
Speaker 1: He's just I don't know if he's a thirty seven
49:07
Speaker 1: million dollar broadcaster, but he's good and he's Tom Brady,
49:10
Speaker 1: so it works. Tony Romo. Obviously, he said at the
49:16
Speaker 1: beginning of the game that Jacksonville winning would be like
49:19
Speaker 1: Carolina winning, when by the time the game kicked off,
49:22
Speaker 1: they were favored, and Jacksonville, by all accounts anyone that
49:26
Speaker 1: watched them play over the course of the last two months,
49:29
Speaker 1: they were playing as well as any team in the league.
49:31
Speaker 1: And you know, Tony's making all these sounds. I think
49:35
Speaker 1: what he's tried to pivot to is tried to become
49:39
Speaker 1: this big personality, like this fun kind of John Madden
49:43
Speaker 1: was that way right, and John Gruden was kind of
49:46
Speaker 1: that way too. Now John Madden's been gone for a
49:49
Speaker 1: while and hasn't called games in almost two decades, but
49:53
Speaker 1: it always felt like John Madden really knew what was
49:56
Speaker 1: going on and really knew the players and coaches like personally,
50:00
Speaker 1: so it felt like he was describing you to them.
50:03
Speaker 1: I don't know how much film John Madden watched in
50:06
Speaker 1: the nineties and two thousands, but I never felt like
50:09
Speaker 1: he didn't know what he was talking about. And then,
50:11
Speaker 1: obviously his personality is a one of a kind, right,
50:13
Speaker 1: He's like a Hollywood actor and Gruden had some of
50:17
Speaker 1: Madden's just kind of big personality. But everyone knew this
50:21
Speaker 1: guy was getting up at the crack of dawn to
50:23
Speaker 1: watch every game both teams have played. That he would know.
50:26
Speaker 1: It's why his Gruden grinders would be a bunch of
50:28
Speaker 1: random players. He would geek out on the football aspect
50:31
Speaker 1: of it, whether he was calling the Jags game or
50:34
Speaker 1: whether he was calling the eighty five Bears playing the
50:36
Speaker 1: eighty five forty nine Ers, Joe Montana playing Walter Payton.
50:39
Speaker 1: He knew it all. And thing is, Tony Roman doesn't
50:42
Speaker 1: feel like he knows it, and he doesn't feel that
50:44
Speaker 1: cool when he's doing his stuff and he's with Nance,
50:48
Speaker 1: who really is much more of a buttoned up, old
50:51
Speaker 1: school play by play guy. It's just not really working.
50:55
Speaker 1: And for the first time, I kind of agree with
50:57
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I'm like, God, this is this
50:59
Speaker 1: is weird. It's just kind of weird. And the other
51:02
Speaker 1: thing is like doing a Jags game for them not
51:06
Speaker 1: as easy as doing the Bills, doing the Chiefs, doing
51:08
Speaker 1: the Broncos, you know, doing the good teams they typically do,
51:12
Speaker 1: Like how many Bills in Chiefs game? They know that
51:14
Speaker 1: team like the back of their hand. He doesn't know
51:16
Speaker 1: the Jags. You got to do a lot more work
51:18
Speaker 1: to catch up on what's going on there. So I
51:22
Speaker 1: don't know how to fix it, but I do agree
51:24
Speaker 1: with a lot of people it's not really working. And
51:28
Speaker 1: speaking of the Jags, I want to end on this.
51:32
Speaker 1: This lady in their press conference went pretty viral for
51:35
Speaker 1: basically giving Liam Cohen a standing ovation telling him to
51:39
Speaker 1: hold his head high. He did a remarkable job, and
51:42
Speaker 1: all those things are true. What Liam Cohen did this
51:47
Speaker 1: year is pretty remarkable. I think he's one of like
51:51
Speaker 1: three coaches to in his first year take a team
51:54
Speaker 1: from four wins to thirteen plus wins. One of them
51:58
Speaker 1: was George Seaffert, who took over like a super champion.
52:01
Speaker 1: I forget the other one, but it was a list
52:03
Speaker 1: of like multiple time Super Bowl champions. What he did
52:07
Speaker 1: with the Jags is remarkable. I also thought that moment
52:12
Speaker 1: could only happen to a team that none of us
52:15
Speaker 1: take that seriously. That view the Jags as kind of
52:19
Speaker 1: like a team that you would see in the movies,
52:22
Speaker 1: like the branding you would see in any given Sunday.
52:25
Speaker 1: Can you imagine someone getting up in the press conference
52:29
Speaker 1: after Nick Sirianni just lost to Kyle Shanahan and saying
52:32
Speaker 1: that can you imagine someone at Soldier Field being in
52:36
Speaker 1: the press conference to Matt Lafleur and saying that you
52:40
Speaker 1: can't because it wouldn't happen. It never has happened, it
52:43
Speaker 1: never will happen. And listen. I'm not a journalist. I
52:46
Speaker 1: don't do journalism. I do podcasting. I say whatever I
52:50
Speaker 1: want now, I, in a weird way, do some because
52:54
Speaker 1: I'm texting people in the NFL and in this profession
52:57
Speaker 1: constantly to get information that then I shape what I'm
52:59
Speaker 1: gonna talk like. I'm not just willy nilly throwing shit
53:02
Speaker 1: at the wall out of the time. But I'd by
53:04
Speaker 1: no means consider myself a journalism at this point in time.
53:08
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even consider myself a media member. That being said,
53:11
Speaker 1: I have done that type stuff. I've gone to a
53:13
Speaker 1: ton of press conferences and got to know and would
53:17
Speaker 1: consider friends people that cover teams as journalists, especially in
53:23
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Tim Kawakami, Matt Mayoko, Matt Barrows, Anthony
53:29
Speaker 1: Slater who covers the Warriors, Marcus Thompson, who covers the Warriors,
53:33
Speaker 1: these guys who I would consider are journalists. And all
53:36
Speaker 1: these guys have very close relationships with the coaches they cover,
53:42
Speaker 1: with the general managers they cover, and a lot of
53:45
Speaker 1: them with the players they cover. They know that they
53:50
Speaker 1: have dinners that no one knows about with them. They
53:52
Speaker 1: text with them. They have relationships with these guys, and
53:55
Speaker 1: obviously they also have to ask tough questions. I've seen
53:58
Speaker 1: Tim Kawakami just get into it with Jim Harball. I
54:02
Speaker 1: would imagine if you asked Jim Harba, he would say,
54:04
Speaker 1: I consider Tim Kawakami a friend. So listen what I
54:09
Speaker 1: like as a consumer. I like when people are screaming
54:13
Speaker 1: at each other. I like and we don't get as
54:15
Speaker 1: much anymore when the coach or the player would scream
54:19
Speaker 1: at the Big Jay and sometimes the Big j gives
54:21
Speaker 1: it back. That's entertainment to me. Ethan Strauss, who has
54:26
Speaker 1: one of the best substacks on the internet, who's someone
54:28
Speaker 1: I would consider a friend, had a famous viral moment
54:32
Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant or Kevin started lighting him up like
54:35
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree. This is the Big Leagues. It's a
54:39
Speaker 1: weird gig that a lot of these teams and pro sports.
54:43
Speaker 1: You have those individuals questioning the coaches, are you gonna
54:47
Speaker 1: keep your job? Do you think the team should bring
54:50
Speaker 1: you back? That's not a normal environment that any of
54:53
Speaker 1: us live in. I don't have people on a daily
54:55
Speaker 1: basis of like middlecoff. Do you think you're a good
54:57
Speaker 1: enough podcaster? Should you be retained? Right? How many of
55:02
Speaker 1: you that are like working at Wells Fargo or some
55:05
Speaker 1: insurance company once a week have a guy stand in
55:08
Speaker 1: front of you with the microphone and go bill, do
55:11
Speaker 1: you think AFLAC should bring you back? For Q three?
55:16
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen to any of us. But that's the job
55:19
Speaker 1: they're in, and that's the job all these people have chosen,
55:22
Speaker 1: and it just comes with the territory, and most of
55:24
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players know it and just deal
55:26
Speaker 1: with it. I do think, though, that's a reflection of
55:29
Speaker 1: the Jaguars more than this lady, because I can imagine
55:32
Speaker 1: this lady, who I don't know, never heard of, was
55:34
Speaker 1: probably excited for the first time or one of the
55:37
Speaker 1: only times in the last like twenty years, whatever she
55:39
Speaker 1: does for a living actually matter. People kind of cared
55:42
Speaker 1: because the team always sucks. They're always drafted high if
55:45
Speaker 1: you did that in film when I was working for
55:48
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I might get I'm pretty sure it was
55:52
Speaker 1: Less Bowen either attack Jeff McLain or Jeff McLain attacked
55:57
Speaker 1: less booth. There was a fight in the locker room
56:01
Speaker 1: for open locker room to interview the players, and like
56:03
Speaker 1: a Sante, Samuel was like rooting it on, like that's
56:07
Speaker 1: what I enjoy, that's what I want. I want there
56:11
Speaker 1: to be just this is all entertainment like that, and listen.
56:14
Speaker 1: I like Adam Schefter, He's always been cool to me.
56:17
Speaker 1: He put that out there like it was some feel
56:20
Speaker 1: good stories like this isn't little league. They were just
56:23
Speaker 1: hosting the Buffalo Bills as a favorite.
56:27
Speaker 2: They just won thirteen games, pretty sure, they won their
56:29
Speaker 2: last eight games. They were the hot you could argue
56:31
Speaker 2: they were the hottest team in the NFL coming into
56:33
Speaker 2: the playoffs and they just lost because their quarterback played,
56:36
Speaker 2: like shit, this isn't this isn't high school football, which
56:40
Speaker 2: I love high school football.
56:42
Speaker 1: This is the pros. And I just thought, I don't
56:47
Speaker 1: get as caught up by the rules. Iybore just like
56:51
Speaker 1: that's kind of a reflection of that franchise that just
56:53
Speaker 1: wouldn't happen in other places. You think someone did that
56:56
Speaker 1: to Mike Tomlin. Hey, Mike, I know you just got
56:59
Speaker 1: a curb stomped by the Houston Texans thirty to six.
57:03
Speaker 1: People are probably calling for your job. Your quarterback who's
57:06
Speaker 1: forty two is gonna retire. All the defensive guys in
57:09
Speaker 1: your team are really old. But man, hold your head high, bro,
57:12
Speaker 1: you never lose. You are a true champion. To me,
57:16
Speaker 1: they get laughed at. Someone just told Sirianni like, just
57:21
Speaker 1: hold your head high, and the other reporters might have
57:24
Speaker 1: thrown them out. And I actually think fans find that entertainment.
57:27
Speaker 1: Yet I'm looking at these comments on the internet, It's
57:29
Speaker 1: like we need more of this positive reinforcement. Positive they
57:33
Speaker 1: lost the fucking game, Like this isn't positive reinforcement is
57:37
Speaker 1: like when someone gets injured, like hold you know, hold
57:40
Speaker 1: your head high, George kittle Man, you're gonna battle back, right,
57:44
Speaker 1: or Nico Collins, like prayers for Nico, like hold your
57:47
Speaker 1: head high. You just lost at home. You won thirteen games,
57:52
Speaker 1: Like there's no we don't give ribbons out. So I
57:56
Speaker 1: just think that was that could only happen to the
57:59
Speaker 1: Jacks A hard time seeing that happen in any other franchise,
58:03
Speaker 1: and I think it's less a reflection of the lady.
58:06
Speaker 1: I don't care about revoking credentials or any of that crap,
58:09
Speaker 1: but I just think that I mean, Aaron Glenn got
58:12
Speaker 1: asked about his job starting like week three up until
58:15
Speaker 1: week eighteen, every single week by like seven different people
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Speaker 1: every single press conference. Now, granted they sucked and he
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Speaker 1: didn't have an they didn't have an interception, but like,
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Speaker 1: that's I think most people appreciate that culture. It's like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? I think that
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Speaker 1: people wanted to ask, like, hey, Liam, what just happened?
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Speaker 1: What happened to your quarterback? But hey man, good job.
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Speaker 1: Keep trucking the volume.