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327: Welcome to Plathville Recap - You Catch More Flies With Honey... (S8 E2) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality te The Cringe Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Me.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to recap Welcome to the Platform. This
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  Speaker 1: is my favorite show, honey. Yes, I look forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just so excited in my life generally when there's
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  Speaker 1: that i'm vibing with currently that I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: watch is Southern Hospitality. I need to watch some Bravo girl,
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: You never watched the original season of vander Pump Rolls,
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  Speaker 1: did you? So this is kind of like that, but
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  Speaker 1: it's set in South Carolina, so kind of a different
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  Speaker 1: There's like a there's there's a different type of person
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  Speaker 1: in the Carolinas, especially male people, a little bit more misogyny.
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  Speaker 1: There's just like a lot going on, but they're young,
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  Speaker 1: they're out of control. I really am enjoying it, but
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this threecap, we do have
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  Speaker 1: Okay, before we get into our recap of the most
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  Speaker 1: recent episode of Welcome to Plaith, Phil Beatrice, I do
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  Speaker 1: have to ask you whether you have any takeaways.
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  Speaker 3: My takeaway is going to be kind of tamed this week,
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  Speaker 3: and it's I think Mariah is absolutely beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I just love seeing her.
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  Speaker 3: I think she is doing so well in Montana, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: and I love that she's doing some inner work. I
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  Speaker 3: love her wigs, I love her makeup. I think she
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  Speaker 3: looks great.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, and I love that she is working on
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  Speaker 1: her inner world, trying to come to love and accept herself,
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  Speaker 1: so she's not so attached to the outer appearance, which is,
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  Speaker 1: as you say, gorgeous. Yes, so my takeaway is regarding
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  Speaker 1: Ethan Plath, but I know we're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: it during the episodes, so I'm going to shelve that
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  Speaker 1: and just say I'm a little disappointed. I am disappointed
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  Speaker 1: in mister Isaac Plath because my spidy senses, my vibrational
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  Speaker 1: feelers are kind of giving me cheater, kind of giving me.
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  Speaker 1: Isaac has done something that he should not have done.
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  Speaker 1: And because he's a Plath and therefore cannot communicate, because
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  Speaker 1: he's broken fundamentally in side, he has not told Calin
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  Speaker 1: straight away that he's done this, and so instead he's
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  Speaker 1: pulling away, and ultimately we see what happens in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to break up with her. And I think
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  Speaker 1: mister Isaac has modeled his bad behavior on his unfaithful
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  Speaker 1: adulter's drunk mom Kim, and now he's doing the same
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  Speaker 1: tipooky Bearer, and I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it either. I agree with you. I
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  Speaker 3: am disappearing on him too. Yeah, okay, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my takeaway and without any further a jew,
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  Speaker 1: let's get in chew this episode of Welcome to Plath
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  Speaker 1: Bill season eight, episode four, In Tattle, episode two, episode two,
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  Speaker 1: Sorry in tattooed.
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  Speaker 3: You catch more flies with honey dot dot dot. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So we start the episode kind of finishing up the
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  Speaker 3: conversation that we had last week with Lydia, Zach and
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  Speaker 3: the entire Plath family, and we have Lydia saying that
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  Speaker 3: her and Zach were really hurt because they found out
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the shit talking after the wedding, which
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  Speaker 3: you have talked about on last week's episode, that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't know a lot of what was happening at their wedding,
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  Speaker 3: during their wedding, even the night before their wedding until
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  Speaker 3: it seems like the show aired correct and everything came out.
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  Speaker 3: And Lydia says in this week's episode, if I find
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  Speaker 3: out there's any more shit talking, there's any more gossiping
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  Speaker 3: from you bitches, I will not tolerate it. She didn't
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  Speaker 3: say it like that, she should have. She did.
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  Speaker 1: I think she literally said I won't tolerate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't call them bitches, but she should have.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, But what does that mean, Lydia? Does that mean
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  Speaker 1: you're going to go no contact?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean you're going to call them out on
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  Speaker 1: social media? That's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing that like a therapist would say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to set a boundary like that, you
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  Speaker 3: need to have consequences that you're going to actually follow
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  Speaker 3: through on, right, And I think that Lydia is too
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  Speaker 3: passive to be like I'm gonna go no contact. I'm
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  Speaker 3: like what do you mean You're not going to tolerate it?
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna say fuck you, mom? Because you should,
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  Speaker 3: and I really want you to. I would love that
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  Speaker 3: so much. Right, And then we get into a conversation
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  Speaker 3: about what Kim said last year about the wedding colors.
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  Speaker 3: So we're clearing this up because Kim had said last
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  Speaker 3: year that basically Zach chose the wedding colors without caring
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  Speaker 3: about Lydia's wants or desires, because Zach is controlling, and
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  Speaker 3: Lydia and Zach obviously take issue with this because Zach
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  Speaker 3: is not controlling at all, And so Lydia wants to
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  Speaker 3: clear the air and say, you know, actually I wanted blue.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted the blue colors. I liked blue. Originally I
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  Speaker 3: did have a dress that was Hunter green, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: it had a connection to another guy that I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to cloud my wedding day or cloud my judgment
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. So I didn't want to go with Hunter
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  Speaker 3: green because some other guy picked that up for me,
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  Speaker 3: and so I wanted to go with baby.
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  Speaker 1: Blue or Okay, but last week I thought she said
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  Speaker 1: to the camera for all of us that it was
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  Speaker 1: never going to be Hunter Green. Yeah, that Hunter Green
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  Speaker 1: was never a thing. And so this week when she says, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I did have a Hunter Green in mind, I had
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  Speaker 1: a dress, we cut to Kim giving an interstitial, saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: at least she admitted that Hunter Green was in play,
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  Speaker 1: because previously she did not admit that, And so I
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  Speaker 1: was like, huh, okay, Lydia, So maybe you are doing
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  Speaker 1: some covering for Zach, and maybe there's a reason that
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  Speaker 1: Kim and maybe other members of your family are a
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  Speaker 1: little concerned about Zach, especially if you're gonna lie about it.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you lie in about it?
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Was she lieing last week?
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  Speaker 3: I think she was a little bit. I think she
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  Speaker 3: was trying to like cover for Zak in that he
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  Speaker 3: chose the colors because he looked the best in a
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  Speaker 3: blue suit, and she's framing it like, oh, no, I've
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  Speaker 3: always wanted it, But that's a lie.
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  Speaker 1: How about Yeah, he did choose and I love him
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  Speaker 1: and I want him to be happy, and I look
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  Speaker 1: bomb in blue, and so that's what we chose. Get
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  Speaker 1: over it, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: And if that was what actually happened, it would be
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  Speaker 3: easy to say it that way. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: Zach did have a little bit of a controlling thing
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  Speaker 3: going on with the colors, and I think Kim was
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  Speaker 3: probably right about that. Now, Kim shouldn't have said it
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  Speaker 3: on TV. She shouldn't have said it in that way
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  Speaker 3: on TV. She should have had a private conversation with Lydia,
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  Speaker 3: because Kim this week does say, yeah, well, I chose
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  Speaker 3: to share it on TV because I had heard it
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  Speaker 3: from somebody who was there in the conversation with Lydia
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  Speaker 3: talking about the wedding colors, and so I knew that
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  Speaker 3: it was true, and so that's why I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: share it on TV and not talk about it with Lydia.
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  Speaker 1: So, Kim, you've got to be messy like that, you
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  Speaker 1: don't And that kind of comes up in this family
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  Speaker 1: meeting where they talk about how the family itself has
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  Speaker 1: a propensity to just talk amongst themselves and what Lydia
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  Speaker 1: calls straight up gossip, like instead of coming to the
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  Speaker 1: person and in this case coming to Lydia, they're talking
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  Speaker 1: to siblings, they're talking to parents, and it's just this
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  Speaker 1: game of telephone, but it never gets to the person
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  Speaker 1: who's actually involved. And Mariah in the moment co signs this,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, no, actually, I agree with Lydia. We
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  Speaker 1: do that a lot and we shouldn't do that. And
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  Speaker 1: then we have Kim and her interstitial saying again because
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  Speaker 1: Kim was quiet during the meeting, she says nothing during
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  Speaker 1: the meeting, but she's talking a lot to the camera
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  Speaker 1: right after, and she's like, but we're a huge family,
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  Speaker 1: and we have all of us have different relationships with
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  Speaker 1: one another, and sometimes I see this kid and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I see that kid, and they see each other, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. So what we're not supposed to talk
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  Speaker 1: to each other. And for me, yeah, I get that
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  Speaker 1: that you're all going to have your own relationships and
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  Speaker 1: you're all going to talk amongst yourself. But you know
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  Speaker 1: what Lydia was saying, Yeah, you guys were gossiping about him.
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  Speaker 1: You guys were being rude about him and calling into
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  Speaker 1: question and his sexuality, which was very emasculating and embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: for him. And you didn't need to do that. You
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  Speaker 1: could have just come to us directly, which Ethan and
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  Speaker 1: Mica did come to Zach. But they were also so
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  Speaker 1: mean and talking amongst themselves too.
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  Speaker 3: I get and like Kim's point about them being a
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  Speaker 3: big family and they're all going to talk about each other. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine and dandy when you don't have a national
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  Speaker 3: TV show, when you don't have cameras in your face
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  Speaker 3: where they're going to see you talking about them and
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  Speaker 3: talking about their relationship on national TV.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think her motive was.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, causin drama, it's a show.
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  Speaker 1: And she tried.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: She seems so dull behind the eyes. Is she really
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  Speaker 1: thinking that far out? But they say in this family
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  Speaker 1: meeting that she comes up with a ton of ideas, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and never executes any of them. And when you apply
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  Speaker 1: that to the show, which made Kim and Olivia were
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  Speaker 1: the ones that got the show off the road, right,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's constantly thinking about how to create episodes and
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  Speaker 1: the kind of content that they can put out there.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, and maybe the rest of the family is
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  Speaker 3: just so naive to think that, like, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to cause problems in the family if Kim is talking
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  Speaker 3: about this stuff. But I don't know, it's just like
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  Speaker 3: to me, if you're in a big family, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna talk about each other, Okay, whatever, but you
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing that, and you shouldn't be airing out
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  Speaker 3: all of your opinions and stuff about each other on
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  Speaker 3: national TV if you haven't already talked to the person
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  Speaker 3: about them. That's the issue. And I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: issue that Lydia and Zach have, is like you could
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  Speaker 3: have just talked to us about it first instead of
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  Speaker 3: talking about it behind our backs when we were so
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  Speaker 3: eager and so excited to have this wedding. So like
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  Speaker 3: I understand Lydia and Zach's perspective on it. I do
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  Speaker 3: think it's interesting though, that we still didn't talk about
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  Speaker 3: the whole sexuality thing, Like maybe it was talked about
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  Speaker 3: off camera, but just didn't seem mentioned at all in
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  Speaker 3: this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Zach is really battered by that. Maybe maybe the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the family is embarrassed that they did that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like if it was such an inappropriate thing,
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  Speaker 3: because it was to say, and if Zach wanted to
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  Speaker 3: prove to the family like, look, no, I'm totally into Lydia,
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  Speaker 3: Like why didn't we happen?
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  Speaker 1: I'm into it so much?
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't know why we didn't just have a
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  Speaker 3: conversation about that it seemed like the most important thing
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  Speaker 3: to them, and maybe the most important thing to Zach
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  Speaker 3: was having the family and having the public know that
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  Speaker 3: he's not controlling. And I'm just not fully convinced by that, agreed.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to also mention, and I'm sure you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring it up, but let me just jump on step
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  Speaker 1: on your toes. But like when Micah mentions that the
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  Speaker 1: family in general does not know how to communicate and
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  Speaker 1: that it was Barry and Kim that modeled this broken communication,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like that really hit. Yes, you see Barry say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't communicate, Well, we never did
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  Speaker 1: in the house, and that's probably why you guys have
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  Speaker 1: this issue now. And then later in this episode we
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  Speaker 1: get into the Joshua of it all, and when the
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  Speaker 1: moment when the family just stopped talking to each other. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and it was when Joshua passed away and Kim went
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  Speaker 1: into her season of shocked depression. Everybody was shocked. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody was depressed and everybody just shut down at that time. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was poignant. Oh yeah, so before that happened,
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  Speaker 1: were they communicating, were they interacting in a different way?
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  Speaker 1: I wonder I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, they were all kids, you know, like they were
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  Speaker 3: all young, so like, how much were the kids communicating
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  Speaker 3: with the parents. I don't think that Barry and Kim
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  Speaker 3: ever really communicated well at all, because obviously she became
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  Speaker 3: a drunk fan and an adulterer, so like, they obviously
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  Speaker 3: didn't have strong communication between the two of them, and
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  Speaker 3: he was working all the time. So I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was cool that Micah brought it up and Barry co
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  Speaker 3: signed it and was validating of that, Like, I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't really pick up a fight with it
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  Speaker 3: and be like, well, no, we did communicate.
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  Speaker 1: Well I don't remember that correctly, Yeah, we were communicating
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Nope, he owned it immediately.
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  Speaker 3: I loved that Kim didn't really say.
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  Speaker 1: That I said nothing because she's a she can't take
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  Speaker 1: responsibility for anything.
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  Speaker 3: So frustrating. But I just I'm glad that it didn't
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  Speaker 3: end up like in a fight, because if I would
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  Speaker 3: have brought something like that up to members of my family,
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  Speaker 3: totally would have ended up in a fight and everyone
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  Speaker 3: would have been super defensive and been like, no, I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like that at all. That's why I don't bring
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  Speaker 3: that shit up, right, So I think it's cool that
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  Speaker 3: they have an environment where the kids can bring shit
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  Speaker 3: up like that and they don't react in a negative way. Now,
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  Speaker 3: granted this is on camera, so like, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what happened after, but I just thought it was cool
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  Speaker 3: to see. And so then at the end of this
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  Speaker 3: conversation with the family, I think it was Micah who
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  Speaker 3: also brought up like, well, that's go around in a
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  Speaker 3: circle and talk about things that we're bad at everything,
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  Speaker 3: and this was kind of funny. So we have Amber
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  Speaker 3: saying that Mariah never cleans her room, which is funny,
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  Speaker 3: but Mariah doesn't even live at.
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  Speaker 1: Home, so I don't know why she really cares.
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  Speaker 3: We have Zach telling Lydia that she needs to be
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: better about waking up in the morning, which.
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  Speaker 1: I thought was kind of fun and making me my breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: No, damn, okay, Zach. We have Lydia telling Kim that
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  Speaker 3: she needs to narrow down her ideas and follow through
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  Speaker 3: with the shit that she wants to do, which is like,
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  Speaker 3: this is echoed multiple times in the episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to know where that originates from.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ballet studio affair.
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  Speaker 1: Various places she's lived, a boat, exact stuff, yep.
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  Speaker 3: The religion, kombucha, like all the things. We have Kim
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  Speaker 3: telling Micah that she would like to hear from him more,
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  Speaker 3: and Amber also says this as well, Like when Micah
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  Speaker 3: brought up the whole communication comment, Amber's like, well, that's
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  Speaker 3: rich cunning from Micah who lives in Florida and doesn't
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  Speaker 3: talk to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's how he's healing. It's because he's not
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  Speaker 1: talking to y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he's trying to get his grounding going on. And
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  Speaker 3: then we have Barry telling Zach to maybe stop saying
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  Speaker 3: let's go amen.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to co sign that let's go cringe.
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  Speaker 3: And we talked about that last season. I think because
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: he said it in his vows he did cringe. And
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  Speaker 3: then we have Micah telling Ethan that, hey, you're one
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  Speaker 3: of the most hardworking people I know, but you need
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  Speaker 3: to grow the fuck up base facts. I mean, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: Drop Ethan is emotionally underdeveloped. There's something wrong with Ethan.
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  Speaker 1: This was going to be my takeaway for the whole
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: episode because I was just watching him seen to scene
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to scene and he's so closed down, he's so non emotive.
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  Speaker 1: But there was something about it that felt put on
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  Speaker 1: to me, like it wasn't it wasn't natural. It was
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: almost like performing brokenness or performing stoicism, or wanting everyone
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: to think he was a badass. My brother doesn't smile.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: You never know when my brother's happy or sad, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he's got these faces and they're all angry, like he
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: wants people to think that of himself for some reason.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's true, though, I don't know. Something's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: very wrong with Ethan Plath in my opinion.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree there's something wrong. I don't know
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: if it's like as pathological as him performing like brokenness
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: or performing sadness. I think he's hashtag depressed. And we'll
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: get into it, Okay, I'll save my unhinged takes for
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a little bit later, because I do have some opinions.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I just thought he acted weird this entire total episode. Yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: acted hella weird. And so then we end the conversation
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: with the Plaths by Zach saying in his talking head
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: that you know, he's glad that Kim said she accepts
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: him in the family, but he does believe that actions
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: speak louder than words, and so he hopes that Kim
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: will mean what she says with that, and I feel
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: like she won't.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And I think the way that Zach was communicating that
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: indicates that he doesn't think that she will.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think he trusts her, which means Lydia doesn't. Yes,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: And honestly, why would you write? Why would you? Then
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: we shift gears a bit and we go to a
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: wig shop with Mariah, Amber and Ethan, and this is
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: where we hear primarily from Mariah about her struggles with
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: her alopecia and her journey in accepting her disease basically
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and accepting her baldness and everything. And it was a
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: really difficult thing for her because obviously she has always
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: been very insecure about her alopecia, always insecure about losing
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: her hair obviously, because it's been something that's been very
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: traumatic for her nearly her entire life. And so she
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: talks about losing her hair again. Now, the last time
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: she lost her hair was I think after Joshua passed, right, because.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: She was kind of patchy when she was down in
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Tallahassee dating the Humpty Dumpty guy for sure. Yeah, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: she's been patchy intermittently, but she's really not lost all
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: of her whole hair, like she.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Did after Joshua passed away up.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Until Lydia's wedding is when it started happening again.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she said she was losing her hair during
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Lydia's wedding. That was when she had the patches and
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: it was really hard on her. We remember seeing that
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: last season. She was really sad about it and crying
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a lot. And this was before her move to Montana
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: and it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Was on the heels of her breakup with the married
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with the kid. Yeah, so I think that really traumatized her. Yes,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And when we look at Mariah as an innocent young
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: woman who doesn't have a lot of worldly experience because
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: her parents couldn't be arsed to give her an we
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: can see her falling in love with somebody like head
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: over heels and pinning her whole world on that guy,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: only to have him return to his wife or to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: see her in some way, and how traumatizing that could
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: be to a young lady like that. Yep, and then
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: triggering another alopecia episode, which is what she was going through.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And it's very sad.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: That was very sad, totally sad, And so you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: after she started getting more and more patches of hair loss.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: She ultimately decided to shave her head because she knew
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: she was just going to lose all of it. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: she talks about how when she made that decision, all
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: she wanted the only person she wanted to do that
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: for her was Ethan.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: She wanted Ethan to.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Shave her head. And this was kind of an interesting
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: window into their relationship for me, because you know, I've
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: been seeing people online criticize this particular scene a lot,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and they were criticizing Ethan and criticizing Mariah's like quote
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: unquote obsession with Ethan because they're like, they're like, why
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: would she choose Ethan? He's such a piece of of shit.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I thought she was closer with Micah and blah blah blah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I didn't get that vibe at all.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I actually was kind of emotional during this scene, and
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I thought it was actually really sweet that she wanted Ethan,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: out of all people, to shave her head. And Ethan
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: himself is like a little confused as to why she
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: wanted him to shave her head, but he ultimately agreed
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: to do it, and he did it, and then he
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: told her that she was beautiful, and he kissed the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: top of her head and you know that he loved
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: her no matter what, and I just like, I think
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: that was really sweet. But people online are super critical
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Well, people online won't allow these people to be actual
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: humans with facets to themselves, and so they're never going
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to afford Ethan any kind of grace, and many of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: them won't afford Mariah any kind of grace, And that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: one I don't really get because Mariah just strikes me
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: as somebody who needs a lot of love. She's a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: troubled young she's trying to find herself, she's working on herself.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Like I have every good feeling and thought for Mariah yep,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and I wish her nothing but the best. And these
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: types of stories about Ethan hearten me because he's not
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: completely lost, he's not completely down in some dark hole
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: being an absolute asshole all the time. He does have
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the capacity to be gentle and kind sometimes. Yeah that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we just need to get him to access that all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the time so he can be a better person. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: that's his personal arc that we're watching in the show exactly,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: which is what makes it interesting to me. And I'm
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: gonna shit on Ethan all day, every day, and he
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: deserves it. But when he does something right or when
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: he's moving in the right direction, we should all have
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the maturity to acknowledge that. And that's what I thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that was.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I agree completely, And Mariah even talks about it, like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you know, not everyone gets to see this side of Ethan,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: but she gets to see it, and she wants to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: express that to the world and express that to other
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: people because she wants to convey that, yeah, isn't a
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: complete piece of shit all the fucking time. You know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: he has these moments where he really shines through. And
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I thought it was really sweet, and I was thinking
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: about it, like, you know, why would she want Ethan
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: to do this for her? And I was thinking, like,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: it's because he's stoic. I know he comes off very hard.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I know he is very He's got like a resting
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: bitch face all the fucking time, and I know a
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: lot of people perceive that to be like he's just
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: boiling in rage all of the time. But I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that underneath that, he's got a lot of stoicism. And
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I think that that's what Mariah probably needed in that
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: moment with her needing to shave her head, and she
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: wanted her older brother to do that, and I thought
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: that was sweet.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think stoicism. Isn't that a philosophy. Isn't that
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: like a way of life? People choose sure in order
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to like the way they pass through life. They are
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: non reactive, like it's a thoughtful stance you take in life.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And I just don't think that's what Ethan is doing,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because I don't think he's thoughtful. I think he's thoroughly reactive.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It's just happening almost entirely on the inside, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the stuff that he's dealing with all the time, inner narratives,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: his rage, what he's feeling that he doesn't know how
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to control. So his culping mechanism isn't stoicism. It is
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: just not showing any emotions because I think the moment
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that he does, he's going to be out of control.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And if we trust what Olivia Plath has said about
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: some of the arguments and disagreements that they got into
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: when they were married, like, yeah, he had a hot head,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: he was out of control, and she claims he was abusive,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and so maybe this is his attempt to kind of
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: keep that all under wraps. But is it stoicism. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: don't think so.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I didn't mean it like in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: terms of the philosophy. I meant it in more of
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like his energy, like he wasn't reactive, like he didn't
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: cry or whatever with her, like she just needed like
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a stronger presence or like a stoic presence of just
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: like yeah, I'll do that for you and I'll be
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: there for you type of a thing, because Mariah is
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: more of an emotionally sensitive person, especially going through something
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: like this. So this is where it'll bring me to
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: my uncensored take.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Ethan Plath back from Uncensored with my inappropriate diagnosing of Ethan.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I'm a psychologist now apparently.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So by the way, if you want access to all
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of our uncensored bits, you have to be a patriot. Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: only for patrons. Come and join us. It's a lot
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of fun and we say some unhinged things. Sometimes. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: didn't think that was too unhinged. I could actually see
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: your rational But back to the recap, babes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so everybody was critical of Ethan in this
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: scene because he was totally. He had his resting pitch
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: face on the entire time. It didn't seem like he
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: wanted to be at the whig shop, but he was
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: going because or I wanted him there. I mean, this
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: is a dude who works on cars, Like, do you
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: think he really wants to be at a beauty store
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: on his day off.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: This is also his only job, so he has to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: show up to film scenes and this is one of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the scenes he has agreed to film exactly.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But my main takeaway with all of this was I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: thought it was sweet that Mariah has done so much
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: work on herself. She is learning to accept herself as
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: she is. She is embracing her wig era right now,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and I think she looks absolutely beautiful. She looks healthier too.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: She does, in my opinion, like a couple seasons ago,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: she was looking pretty rough. And I'll just leave it there.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad that she is working on herself. I
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: think she's doing great. I think it's great that Amber
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: and Ethan were there for her, and that's that well.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: She also took off her wig and showed yes, America
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: she did, and she said, this is the first time
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm taking off my wig. In public. Yeah, so she
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: took it off in front of the store clerk. She
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: took it off in front of her family, and she
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: took it off in front of all of us. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that takes a lot of bravery, especially
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: when this is something that is so sensitive and tender
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: for her. And she did it. And she tried on
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: her wigs. I loved like the coppery one. I didn't
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like the black one, which she seemed to love. It's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: too harsh on her. It's very goth, it's very vampiric.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I like the softer waves and colors.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: But you do you boo, I know, I'm like, you
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: embrace it, And I think it's kind of fun, Like
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: how fon would it be to like pick out a
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: different hairstyle all the time? Me and the Hello, the green?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: She needs to get one of these?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: She sure does.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And then we shift gears entirely and we go to Georgio's,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a restaurant in beautiful kro where Lydia and Kim apparently
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: work out. Yeah they worked their last year too, right, Yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Lydia's like a hostess. Okay, she probably works at the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: bar or something, serves drinks. Or whatever. But yeah, so
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Lydia and Kim both work at this restaurant, except Kim
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: is not working tonight. It's her day off, and so
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: she's going to have a party or whatever to celebrate
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: this new era of her life with her new hot man,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Ken Palmer, and Lydia happens to be working this night.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: She's going to be their server, and you know, we
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: kind of start off the conversation with like Kim being like, yeah,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: maybe a little awkward because there's some tension between me
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: and Lydia, but like hopefully it'll be okay. And we
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of rando producer planted friends that are
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: at this party.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: The brain Trust of Cairo has shown up for this event,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the Roast of Kim Plath.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Which okay, they introduce this like we're gonna roast Kim,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't even a roast. It was like, let's
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: you're so awesome and I really look forward to like
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the rest of your awesome life. I love you, mom,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: You're great. You're such a great mom. I'm so glad
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: you're in my life. Like this was not a roast
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: at all. Can we talk? Can we actually roast her?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: We could roast her. I've got shit to say.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: We did a little bit last week, but anyway, so
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Kim wants to celebrate this new era of her life
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: with her new man because she loves Ken Palmer for
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: some reason, and she's really glad that the divorce is final.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: She can move on with her life and live in
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the farmhouse Ken, which I'm just like, he is not
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: a prize. Why are we acting like at all? This
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: is such a great era of your life.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So he's retired.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Unemployed, he's homeless and truthless, and now he's living under
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Barry's roof. Yeah, because I'm not convinced to own that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: farm outright, Kim.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: We did get comments last week. Yeah, people were saying
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that apparently Kim inherited that farm from her family. But
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I was trying to fact check that on the interwebs
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't find anything about it. I guess people
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: were saying she said this in the earlier seasons. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: don't remember that at all. Me neither, And I don't
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: know what that really means, Like did she inherit it?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And did her and Barry, like, do they co own it?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Is his name on the title.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I think once you get an inheritance and then you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: commingle it with the family stuff, then it becomes something
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that he has access to in a divorce or you
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: have a that precludes that. I don't know how interesting.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I had not heard that, and I don't remember that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: in the earlier seasons whatsoever, like, so I don't know
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: how true it is. I was trying to fact check it,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: like to see if there's articles about it, and it
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: was really just people on Facebook talking about it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: So interesting that I don't know. Maybe she owns it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe it's her joint. And if it's her joint,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: she can install the one eyed Ken Palmer there if
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: she chooses to. I don't know why she would.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I guess in my opinion. Yeah, when you raise your
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: whole family on this farm.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're still raising young children there.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: And you had a thirty year marriage with this dude and.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You cheated on it, and you cheated on him with
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Ken Palmer.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Like, it's still inappropriate.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: It's entirely inappropriate, but whatever, And so to be further inappropriate,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think we need to discuss kim Plath's unfortunate style choices. Yes,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: has she gained weight, indeed she has. Is that wrong
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of us to say? You know, it's not because it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: going to be a plot point for the season. She's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: going to address it herself. She's gonna be working with
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a kettle all st Yes, we have eyes and everything.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So you can be heavier set and wear nice clothes,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: fashionable clothes, wear fashion that is suitable for your figure.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Kim is doing. We're talking. It's
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: not even Cole's level. It's not it's like.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: It's like Walmart.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's Walmart, but I mean you can find nice things
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: at Walmart. You can shop for some things that are
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: cute or whatever. It is so dowdy, so matronly. Yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And it's either because she feels really insecure about her figure,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: maybe because she's gained weight or whatever, or she just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: has absolutely no fashion sense. And she wears those big
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: sandals and like crocs and like old lady slash from
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: JC Pannies. It's bizarre. I know, she looks like a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: lunch lady.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: She does look like a.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Lunch Oh, lady, Kim, you're on a television show. This
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is your eighth season of broadcasting. You're telling me. You
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: can't afford even one day with a stylist at the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Macy's or something. This is terrible.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like she's the one that initiated the divorce
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: because she was unhappy, and like normally when you're the
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: one that initiates the divorce, like you have a glow
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: up era. I remember what my parents divorced, Like both
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: my parents were like, let's get hot, let's get skinny,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Like they went and dressed to the nines like it
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: was a thing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, Kim is going in the other
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: direction then, but it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Kind of matches like her new partner, old man Ken.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but apparently he doesn't like it. I guess.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know either. I just had to raise this
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: issue because it's disturbing me every time I see her,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Like when she was out in last week's episode by
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the boat. Yeah, she was wearing some like crocs or
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: orthopedic shoes with like some black polyester slacks and Cole's top.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I was just like, what's going on?
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Look, I guess it's better than the mini skirts that
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: we had last season.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I'd rather see her in some Kmart slacks and some
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: grandma lunch lady attire than watch her full ass.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I wonder if she is like following the blogs, if
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: she's reading on Reddit because she has been roasted so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: thoroughly about those skirts and those mini skirts and her fashion.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: If she listens to our podcast, Well, I'm sorry, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: just would like to apologize from one human to another.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And I don't I don't mean it. I'm not sorry,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: but I am concerned.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It's bad.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It is, it's bad.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: So anyway, we're back at Georgio's, and you know, we
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: have this whole like introduction to the roast of kim
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Plas from one of her friends, and it's like, okay,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: so dumb because nobody actually roasts her. We have Ethan saying,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you've got more ATVs than children, But like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I love you, mommy, and I'm so glad that you're
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: in my life. And then we have somebody else, Ken saying,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm retired.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to living on the farm, dude, being
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: racist together and doing all the projects that you want
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: way to do and watching you get fatter, eat all
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that sugar, playing my juke box. God, what a dynamic couple.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine, like you leave Barry and Barry gets jacked. Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: he gets super fit, loses all this weight, He's super
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: muscly and look, Berry's not like super attractive or anything. Indeed,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: but compare if you had to pick between Barry.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And Barry all day. People bought Barry all day every day.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I know this is inappropriate, but I'm like,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: can can even get hard?
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That is so inappropriate? He probably has to have to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: pla I don't know.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But like, can he really like, Well, he can't get.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Hard for her, his brittley sugar hips. He can't get
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: hard for her because he's not attracted to her according
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to Kim in the season preview. So not only is
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he too old to get hard according to Beatrice with
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: hit problems, but he also is not attracted to her,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: so he can't get hard. So there's no sex happening
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in that relationship.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: So then you left this marriage for what you left.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: That Dynamo Barry for Ken Palmer, the racist Kim Palmer.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Good on you, Kim making good choices out in the world.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like she's just at this point where she's like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I've just got to accept this is what I gotta do?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: What else can I do?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, you could break up with Ken Palmer and.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Then what and then do what?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Go on?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Plenty of fish, find someone else.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Listen. Kim is fundamentally foundationally a beautiful woman. Yeah, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: she could get her groove back. Yeah, she could get
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: a bit healthy, she could start being active or whatever.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: She should lose two or three hundred pounds. I'm sorry,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that is so rude coming from a fat chick just
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: just wilding out over here. But she could live a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: little weight. Yeah, she could slim down, Yeah, she could,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: just the eyelighter could not be as smudge. She could
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like maybe get a style, she get a different lip
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: bomb in her fifties or sure, pretty woman, but she
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: is going the wrong way with that Ken Palmer. Honey.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: She just can't, man, I just can't. And then we
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: also had one of her friends like give her a
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: bottle of wine. And this was like kind of a
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: dig to Barry because I guess last year when they
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: had their final conversation after the divorce was final, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Barry said that he bought her a bottle of wine.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I was so didn't and she was bitter about it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And so her friend bought her a bottle of wine,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, Kim, do you really need more wine?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Though I don't think she does. Do you really need
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a bottle of wet? You see that red face, you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: see that inflammation.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's part of your issue, but you
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: know whatever, So we continue with the row. You know,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Ken Saundra's bag must we Ken Sondra's back on to
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: the table. He kisses Kim in front of everybody, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is the first time we've actually
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: seen them kiss, like in public and on camera, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I'm grossed out. I don't want to see any more
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: of it. Then we have Lydia who stands up to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: roast her mom, but she doesn't really I mean she
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: kind of a little bit. She says, you know, we've
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: had her ups and downs and our relationship, but I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: ready to start a new chapter. And you know, Mom,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you know you could just maybe not have so many ideas.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: What does this mean?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: She keep mentioned. They keep mentioning this.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: They talk about how Kim has all these ideas and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: then she never really follows through with them, or she
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: just makes too many choices or something, and so I'm like,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: are you guys referencing the ballet studio or are you
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: referenced it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It sounds like they're scared to actually roast her. There's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a million things right in this moment that I could
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: roast on and that I have already roasted her on.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: You guys can't say any of those things.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It's kind of weird. It is strange how they don't
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: want to actually be critical of her, because I feel
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: like if the tables returned, like if it was Barry,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Barry wouldn't care, Like Barry, you're bald. He would laugh
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: about it, like you wouldn't care, Barry, you worked too
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: much when we were kids, Like he would be like, yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: True, yeah, But I mean, Ki Kim was tense just
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: having Lydia there because of all the things Lydia could say, yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: if Lydia wanted to say them, and she knew there
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: were a lot of things that Lydia could say yes,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: but Lydia was gracious.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: She was way too gracious in my opinion. And then
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: in her talking head she talks about how she's reflected
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: on the last year or so about how she was
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: upset that Kim didn't really accept Zach immediately, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: with their fast engagement and fast relationship, and Lydia, to
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: her credit, is like, well, I didn't do that with
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: my mom and Ken, because when they got together, it
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: was also fast, and it was also rushed.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And it was also adultery. It was also a sin
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: against the Lord. It was also a statement that was
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: completely antithetical to everything Kim ever taught her entire family.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot more going on with that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: So like Lydia using this as a way to be like, oh,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I understand my mom, and you know I didn't accept
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: her and Ken, and now I do. So you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: through this acceptance acceptance, maybe my mom will accept Zach.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like girl, No, it's two different things, entire.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: It's two different things. Your mom broke up your entire
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: family for Ken.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: She cracked it open for a one eyed racist, then
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: wrapped her car around a tree, embarrassed, your entire family left,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Your father is drunk all the time. It's different than
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: her not accepting Zach.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: But God bless Lydia is such a kind I'm going
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to be tired of it if this is what it's
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: going to be.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Episode to episode is just Lydia bending over backward to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: understand Kim an agent of chaos, to come into this
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: situation and tell him the truth and be ruthless about it,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: for sure. Is there anybody on this cast who can
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: do that or that would.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe Amber she's got the fire in her a little bit. Yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: she's kind of sassy, but she's living with her mom
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: right now and she's kind of taking her mom's side.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I kind of related to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Lydia a bit in this scene because I've totally done
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: this with my own family, where I've been like so
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: understanding about things that like I really shouldn't have been
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: understanding about, and you know, to you, you've told me
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: to not be like that. My wife's told me not
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to be like that, and I'm just like, no, Like
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I can see their perspective. I love them, I care
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: about them, so like I relate to Lydia in that way,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: But I do think she needs that righteous rage for sure.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Well, there is a difference between being gracious and being
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a doormat and letting somebody walk all over you, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and letting somebody rewrite history, which with Kim Plath is
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: what I think she's trying to do, especially as it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: concerns Ken Palmer and their relationships. She's trying to get
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: us all to buy into this new romance. Absolutely not.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It was born in sin and it's going to end
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: in sin and then judging the fuck out of it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: It is sinful, that's right. So we end that stupid
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: roast without actually roasting anything, and then we go over
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to Ethan, who is playing guitar with his friend Austin,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: who we have never seen before until just this moment,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: but apparently they've been best friends for like five years
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: or something. Sure, John allegedly and.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: This was kind of like a nothing burger.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Let's just get right through it. Ethan singing a dumb
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: song about Olivia, and then he's talking about a dumb
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: song that he wrote about Teagan because he misses Teagan
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and he wants to do something about Teagan, and Austin
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: is encouraging him to just let it go. If it's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: not meant for us, we should just let it go.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: If it comes back it was meant to blah blah
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Moral the story, Ethan's depressed thinking a lot about Tegan.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: He's thinking a lot about Tigan. Everything that he does,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: everything he experiences, reminds him of Teagan, and I kind
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of felt bad for him a little bit, But at
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the same time, I'm like, dude, you ruined.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: He fucked it up. You fucked it up, and this
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: is the consequence of your action. Plus you lied to her,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: said you're gonna move to Wisconsin. You never did that.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: He never she moved on.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: She's a bombshell. Isat waiting around for your paleass Ethan.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: But he is so buttered about it. It seems like
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: she probably broke up with him. He didn't break up
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: with her, So he's just he's sad, he's depressed. He's
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: playing guitar good. And then we get to the last
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: portion of the episode where we have like a spooky
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Halloween corn maze with Mariah, Ethan, Isaac, and Kaylan aka
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Pooky Bear. And at first it's just Ethan and Mariah
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and Kaylan that are at the corn maze. Isaac comes
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit later and he's allegedly coming after work
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: that he has been at.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: For fourteen hours picking peanut.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Picking peanuts in the hot sun. I guess he's exhausted.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: He's like not happy about being there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Can Berry not send his son to college?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: No?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Was there no college fund for any of his children.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: We've got to have our strapping young man who flies
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: planes work on a farm picking peanuts for fourteen hours
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in the hot sun, instead of sending him to university
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: where you got to go. Barry, you got to graduate
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: from college and Kim, you work this piece of shit?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: You got to go to university. I think you dropped out.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You didn't even finish, because you don't finish things apparently. No,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: but you can't send your son, who's nineteen years old
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and who has all the promise and potential in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: world to community college. I hate them for this.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I know it pisses me off. And I'm just like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: why is he working in the field if he's got
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: his pilot license. I thought he had his license and
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: everything he can fly planes. I'm like, why don't you
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: work at the airport?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Does he own the farm? Is it like one of
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: his own projects or is he working for somebody? I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: would like more information.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I would like more information too, But obviously Isaac is
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: fun looking tired. He's been doing hard, backbreaking work. All day,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: fourteen hours in the field, cheating and now probably cheating,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: and now he has to come to another field and
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: he even says this, he's like not happy about being there.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: He just wants to go home, take a shower, go
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: to bed. But he's there anyway. And so then they
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: go through this stupid corn maze and Mariah is like, I'm.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So scared, will you? That was a little tedious to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be cured.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: It was so dramatic. I'm like, chill out, it's not
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: that big of a deal. Why are you here if
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: you're just scared. But while they're going through the maze,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: we have this like little discussion about who needs to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: be in the front and who needs to be in
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the back. Kayln is like, I don't want to be
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: in the front or the back. I want to be
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: in the middle. I want to be protected by the
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: men Ethan be in the front as of be in
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the back or whatever. And ultimately she ends up in
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: the very back, and she senses that this is an
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: indicator that something is wrong, specifically between her and Isaac.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: They've been together for about a year now, but only
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: recently within the last few weeks there communication has started
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: to suffer and this is an indicator of that because
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: she's in the back and Isaac's in the front or what.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Cause he's cheating on her. He probably is cheating because
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: he's getting his pencil wet.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And so the episode ends with Isaac being like, Hey, Caylin,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: can I talk to you in my truck for a second,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: and he tells her to pull off her mic, so
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: they have a private conversation off camera, off mic, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: ultimately he fucking dumps her ass at the end of
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: the episode, which is so out of left field and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: so weird and like it came out of nowhere. So
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: then we get to the preview for next week where
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Isaac says he broke up with her because they were
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: moving too fast and he's too young, which means he's
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: probably wanting to fuck other people mm hmm, and Caylen
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: is blindsided because she thought he was the one. Oh,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for her in love I feel I seriously,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: they're like nineteen. I feel bad for her. And it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: weird because this is like filmed in Halloween time, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I was on their instagrams and they had posted that
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: they were together in January of this year.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Well, in the season preview, we saw them together in Montana, right,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: so they're going to get back together. And I thought
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: we saw in the preview Isaac apologizing for something. Hmm,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: what could that be?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I put my dick in someone else in.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Pooky number two. I had to give it to Pooky
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: number two.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: That's what it seems like.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: It seems so weird.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: And so then also in the preview for next week,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: we have Barry who's talking about dating and apparently Zach
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Wise is gonna be helping.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Him the wingman, okay, because he's got so much game,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: He's got so much riz play on play Okay, sure.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: All right, whatever, And then we have the conversation with
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Lydia and Kim where they're getting their hair done or whatever.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I think Lydia's doing Kim's hair, and Lydia tells Kim
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: that it feels like, you know, I'm talking to a
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: brick wall when I'm talking to you, And there's a
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: lot of a lack of transparent in a lack of vulnerability,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: and we see Kim Plack crying about it. M M,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: poor me.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's going to be interesting, and I think
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that Lydia is onto something I think I've mentioned how
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Kim seems to be numbed out most of the time.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think Kim has been herself since the accident
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: with Joshua. Agree, it's the moment that communication broke down
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: with absolutely everybody. It's when she started to go somewhere
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: else in her mind and in her heart, which ultimately
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: led her to break up the entire family. I think
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: she's truly damaged, and she keeps herself from feeling things. Yep,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and that is what Lydia is talking about, asking for
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: some vulnerability and some openness from Kim. She does not
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: know how to do it. She needs to go to therapy,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: which we also saw her doing fake therapy yes in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the season previews. So maybe we're going to get into
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: some of this stuff.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: I hope.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: So.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I think that it's very interesting and I hope we do.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I agree completely.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to go on after this recap for
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: our patrons to watch Miss Olivia's most recent video because
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: she has a thing or two to say about some
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: of the things Ethan said in the last week's episode.
• 48:08
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• 48:11
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