Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NBA Show | December 3, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:03Speaker 1: All systems going clear were lifting.
- 0:34Speaker 2: What is up? Ship at Nation. We are back for
- 0:39Speaker 2: a really really fun night tonight in the NBA with
- 0:42Speaker 2: the NBA Cup. We're gonna be talking through eight games
- 0:45Speaker 2: on the Draftking slate with my guy Rio also known
- 0:49Speaker 2: as Hebrew Cheetah, absolutely smashing the last couple of weeks
- 0:53Speaker 2: and really excited to get diving into this slate. Bring
- 0:56Speaker 2: in right away. We got a bunch of stuff today.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Not only do we have great NBA Cup games with
- 1:01Speaker 2: some you know, we'll call them playoff atmospheres, but Para
- 1:06Speaker 2: Bay has given away one hundred dollars single entry tonight.
- 1:09Speaker 2: He's been absolutely smashing and wanted to give back to
- 1:12Speaker 2: the community. Like I told him, how cool. This is
- 1:15Speaker 2: such a great community and the fact that he's smashing
- 1:18Speaker 2: and wants to give give something back to the community
- 1:20Speaker 2: is really awesome. So we'll get into that. But real,
- 1:23Speaker 2: how you doing, buddy.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing good.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Last night was a very good night for everybody in
- 1:28Speaker 1: the NBA, or for most people. The NBA Discord had
- 1:31Speaker 1: a couple of members and me have the same exact lineup,
- 1:34Speaker 1: which is pretty cool to see all kind of landing
- 1:36Speaker 1: on the same process, but that that lanmup was you know,
- 1:39Speaker 1: pretty high up there in a lot of the single entries.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I unfortunately had it in my satellites, but was able
- 1:44Speaker 1: to come away with two eight day eights and a
- 1:46Speaker 1: five point fifty five for this weekend. But yeah, shout
- 1:49Speaker 1: out to Para Bay for giving away a ticket. He's
- 1:52Speaker 1: been crushing it the last week or so. Took first
- 1:55Speaker 1: in one of the single entries I believe last week
- 1:57Speaker 1: or over the weekend, and then was sitting there or
- 2:00Speaker 1: like third or fourth. Need a couple more points from
- 2:02Speaker 1: Gidey last night to get that first place. But yeah,
- 2:06Speaker 1: it's definitely what makes the ship the nation such a
- 2:10Speaker 1: great community, people like Para Bay, people like you know,
- 2:13Speaker 1: Newan's and Ross and Anthony, all these guys, Jordan and
- 2:17Speaker 1: anybody leaving now you already know. But yeah, really really
- 2:19Speaker 1: great community. It's like a like a little family. So
- 2:22Speaker 1: happy for Para Bay all the success he's had, and yeah,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I love having all those guys in the discord.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Yeah that's another thing I'll add too, like just being
- 2:31Speaker 2: in the industry for so long and being a part
- 2:33Speaker 2: of so many communities not like this, but you know
- 2:36Speaker 2: that all follow the same stuff is that when somebody crushes,
- 2:39Speaker 2: they're excited for them, and like that's the cool part
- 2:41Speaker 2: is it's like, hey, man, I had a loser night,
- 2:43Speaker 2: but hey, congratulations to you. You just don't see that
- 2:46Speaker 2: in this community, let alone the world. So shout out
- 2:49Speaker 2: to us and shout out to everybody that makes such
- 2:51Speaker 2: a great community. Let's get in. Let's get in right away.
- 2:55Speaker 2: So what we want to do for this ticket is
- 2:59Speaker 2: he's given ware our single entry, which is sweet. It's
- 3:01Speaker 2: gonna go to a member. So if real, if I'm
- 3:04Speaker 2: not mistaken, jump it. If I'm wrong, we are going
- 3:06Speaker 2: to go into the discord and write who you think
- 3:11Speaker 2: Rio's top spend up on the slate is, and then
- 3:15Speaker 2: from there we will pick our winner at the end
- 3:18Speaker 2: of the show. Obviously, have to remember everybody smashed that
- 3:21Speaker 2: like button. You know, we're three minutes in already have
- 3:23Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty seven people, so shout out to that.
- 3:26Speaker 2: But everybody smash the like button, get in the discord
- 3:28Speaker 2: right who you think REO's top spend on the slate is,
- 3:31Speaker 2: and the winner will be picked from there.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do We'll do everybody nine k plus, so
- 3:36Speaker 1: everybody from Kyrie irving up up top. Already already see
- 3:40Speaker 1: guys in chat dropping some stuff. But yeah, we'll uh,
- 3:45Speaker 1: we'll get that giveaway at the end of the stream. Yeah,
- 3:50Speaker 1: already already coming through with some some good names.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I love it, I love it.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Good.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody in chat really quick. There's a
- 3:56Speaker 2: ton of us, but I'll kind of sort through before
- 3:58Speaker 2: we dive in. George wins a lot, little neck, Bobby Sean.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Shout out to Sean. Another big winner a couple of
- 4:04Speaker 2: weeks ago. William Parabay of course, Wardo Ross, John Dylon,
- 4:10Speaker 2: Marquis Sports Brian, Eric Gange Green. You know a lot
- 4:14Speaker 2: of these guys, you've seen the discord day in and
- 4:16Speaker 2: day out with great questions, looking back at lineups. Charlie
- 4:20Speaker 2: our boy, Ham's in there. Anthony Ann you know, hey,
- 4:23Speaker 2: he's been crushing as well. Richard Ronnie Face. You know,
- 4:26Speaker 2: if I miss somebody, I apologize. There's a lot of
- 4:29Speaker 2: comments already before we dive in, you guys real quick.
- 4:32Speaker 2: You guys have seen it a lot, but you know
- 4:34Speaker 2: it's gonna be going away soon. Black Friday deal. Everybody
- 4:36Speaker 2: get on that man, you know. Shout out to winners
- 4:38Speaker 2: last night in football. You know Djen and Big Marley
- 4:41Speaker 2: they crushed last night, had another huge night in the NFL.
- 4:44Speaker 2: You know, it's every sport, it's not just NBA. So,
- 4:47Speaker 2: like we said, it's a great community. Get in while
- 4:49Speaker 2: it's cheap, you know, because a lot of these deals
- 4:51Speaker 2: don't last very long. I don't know if we'll have
- 4:53Speaker 2: another one before the end of the year, but hey,
- 4:55Speaker 2: let's dive in. Man. Oh, let's get the right overlay.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Come on, and we're getting there. Let's dive in. So
- 5:00Speaker 2: before we dive into the slate, there's a couple of games.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I'll rattle through what I have and then you obviously
- 5:06Speaker 2: Rio chiming with whatever I missed. But it looks like
- 5:09Speaker 2: tonight for NBA Cup, you know, Advancements and Purposes, it's
- 5:13Speaker 2: going to be the winner of Milwaukee and Detroit is
- 5:16Speaker 2: going to take the group. Additionally, for the Magic in Nix,
- 5:19Speaker 2: the winner of that's going to take the group, and
- 5:22Speaker 2: then Phoenix beats san Antonio, okay See takes the group
- 5:28Speaker 2: and Phoenix fights for the wild card for point differential.
- 5:32Speaker 2: San Antonio beats Phoenix, san Antonio takes the group, and
- 5:36Speaker 2: okay See fights for point differential and you can speak
- 5:40Speaker 2: on the MAVs. We spoke about that pre show, but
- 5:43Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily certain about what the exact outcome is there.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Yeah, they need a lot of things to go right
- 5:49Speaker 1: if they if they want to win the wildcard spot there,
- 5:53Speaker 1: they would need okay See and Portland to lose. Okay See,
- 5:57Speaker 1: is you favored by double digits against the Jazz, So
- 5:59Speaker 1: they're probab probably not losing.
- 6:02Speaker 3: They would also need to.
- 6:05Speaker 1: They need a lot of things to go right, so
- 6:07Speaker 1: it's kind of they're kind of a long shot bet,
- 6:09Speaker 1: but kind of same thing from Memphis. Memphis has a
- 6:12Speaker 1: shot to win the wild card. They would need okay
- 6:14Speaker 1: See to lose, Portland to lose, and Denver to lose.
- 6:17Speaker 1: So I don't think that that game has too much importance.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I think that they're obviously gonna be playing to win,
- 6:22Speaker 1: but I don't think that either team cares too much.
- 6:24Speaker 1: In terms of the NBA Cup. It's mainly the younger
- 6:28Speaker 1: teams like at Detroit, even Milwaukee, they've they've kind of
- 6:31Speaker 1: talked about about this game kind of meaning a lot
- 6:34Speaker 1: to them. And then the Orlando in New York Knicks game,
- 6:38Speaker 1: I think is the one that is probably the next
- 6:42Speaker 1: most important along with that Spurs and Phoenix game. I
- 6:44Speaker 1: think much more so for the Spurs side. But yeah,
- 6:48Speaker 1: you broke it down pretty good. There's like three clear
- 6:50Speaker 1: games that are the biggest in terms of the NBA Cup,
- 6:54Speaker 1: and they will definitely go through and break it down
- 6:56Speaker 1: as as we go through the game.
- 6:57Speaker 3: It's still some pretty solid game.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Environments though in some other games, so not like an
- 7:01Speaker 1: all in TUC scenario on just those three games. But
- 7:04Speaker 1: I do think that we'll get some playoff like rotations
- 7:06Speaker 1: from these teams.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's super interesting because you know, you name
- 7:10Speaker 2: off these teams like we did, Bucks, Piston's, Magic's, Nicks, Thunder, MAVs,
- 7:14Speaker 2: Spurs and Suns. Obviously they all have implications if they win.
- 7:18Speaker 2: But we got some crazy totals in here. I mean
- 7:20Speaker 2: a two thirty four with the big spread. Uh, that's
- 7:23Speaker 2: two twenty two twenty four, two thirty eight in a
- 7:26Speaker 2: game that has no impact. So I'm excited to dive
- 7:28Speaker 2: in and kind of get your thoughts on this diving
- 7:32Speaker 2: in first game, Philly at Charlotte Philly's Fair by four
- 7:35Speaker 2: and a half and a two ten and a half
- 7:37Speaker 2: total like we said this game has no impact on
- 7:40Speaker 2: the Cup, but diving into some of these injuries, looks
- 7:43Speaker 2: like Lowry's gonna be back, He's probable, Embad and Drummond
- 7:47Speaker 2: are both out, Reggie Jackson probable, Caleb Martin probable, and
- 7:51Speaker 2: then for the Charlotte side, Bridges is out obviously grants
- 7:54Speaker 2: out Jefferson's out. I'm sorry, Jefferson's questionable, but Ball and
- 7:58Speaker 2: Man are out thinking here in a game that has
- 8:01Speaker 2: no impact with an ugly total.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not definitely not a big game for
- 8:07Speaker 1: either side, but I think that in terms of the
- 8:09Speaker 1: outlook of the season for the Sixers, it is a
- 8:12Speaker 1: pretty big game, just because this is a winnable game,
- 8:14Speaker 1: even if it's on the road against a Charlotte team
- 8:16Speaker 1: without LaMelo, still not favored by a lot, which is
- 8:19Speaker 1: you know, that's rough to seem from Philly, who have
- 8:22Speaker 1: all this star power, but they they definitely need to
- 8:24Speaker 1: start racking up some wins to kind of get their
- 8:26Speaker 1: season back on track. If they want any chance to
- 8:29Speaker 1: be a playoff contending team, they got to win these
- 8:31Speaker 1: games as long as a dwell and be the sideline.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So I think this is a game they definitely want
- 8:36Speaker 1: We've been seeing some tighter rotations from the Philly side mainly,
- 8:38Speaker 1: and you know, guys like Tyre's Maxi Paul George was
- 8:41Speaker 1: pacing to play a little bit more last game before
- 8:43Speaker 1: the big blowout. But yeah, mainly in this game, I
- 8:47Speaker 1: think I just want to look to some of the
- 8:48Speaker 1: values because kind of just like a broadside overview as well,
- 8:52Speaker 1: the value on the slate is really really tough, Like
- 8:54Speaker 1: I could see people kind of gravitating towards a mid
- 8:58Speaker 1: tier build a lot, and yeah, there's like there's very
- 9:02Speaker 1: few guys sub five K that are playable values as
- 9:06Speaker 1: of now. I don't think that there's a lot of
- 9:08Speaker 1: injury news that could change that much. But yeah, I
- 9:11Speaker 1: would say the best value on the slate right now
- 9:13Speaker 1: is in this game, and that's a vasili Ji michic He.
- 9:17Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that filled in a lot
- 9:18Speaker 1: last year for LaMelo, played thirty one and thirty four
- 9:21Speaker 1: minutes in the last two games, twenty three and thirty
- 9:23Speaker 1: six and a half DK points. It does a little
- 9:26Speaker 1: bit of everything, so I think that he's probably gonna
- 9:27Speaker 1: be the best value on the slate tonight. Somebody that
- 9:29Speaker 1: I'm looking to just kind of take my guaranteed twenty
- 9:32Speaker 1: plus points or whatever, because I don't think that there's
- 9:35Speaker 1: going to be a ton of guys sub five K
- 9:37Speaker 1: that give us that there may be some more that
- 9:38Speaker 1: we can try to pinpoint throughout the slate, but he
- 9:41Speaker 1: looks like the safest one down there right now, and
- 9:45Speaker 1: then up top on the hornet side, I do think
- 9:47Speaker 1: Brandon Miller is in a pretty solid spot here. I mean,
- 9:49Speaker 1: he's taken all the shots right now with no LaMelo,
- 9:52Speaker 1: with no bridges, coming off of a game where he
- 9:54Speaker 1: attempted thirty shots in thirty nine minutes put up thirty
- 9:57Speaker 1: two eight and four fifty six d K points. The
- 10:01Speaker 1: Bigs being back definitely takes a little bit of upside
- 10:04Speaker 1: off of him with Mark.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Williams being questionable and Nick Richard. Nick Richard's back.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Both those guys very solid rebounders, so definitely takes a
- 10:10Speaker 1: little bit of rebounding upside off for him.
- 10:11Speaker 3: But he's the focal point on offense.
- 10:14Speaker 1: He's a very high usage rate increase nine percent with
- 10:17Speaker 1: ball out the season, so I think that he's a
- 10:19Speaker 1: very strong option eight K. I do think that you
- 10:21Speaker 1: could get away from it just because it's a very
- 10:23Speaker 1: low scoring game environment. And sorry, there's some other games
- 10:28Speaker 1: later with comparable price tags that mean a lot more.
- 10:34Speaker 1: So I could see I could see you getting away
- 10:36Speaker 1: from Brandon Miller at forty plus percent on tonight. Salon
- 10:39Speaker 1: is another guy that I'm totally flying getting away from
- 10:41Speaker 1: because the bottom can fall out very quickly for him
- 10:44Speaker 1: if he's not getting any sort of offense going. And
- 10:47Speaker 1: we saw it against Atlanta last game played twenty two minutes,
- 10:49Speaker 1: six point two, five DK points, and then other games
- 10:51Speaker 1: before that was playing thirty plus. Definitely think adding those
- 10:54Speaker 1: bigs back into the mix is a very negative impact
- 10:57Speaker 1: for a guy like Salon who probably needs balanced to
- 11:00Speaker 1: get there in terms of Fantasy points. So I'll be
- 11:02Speaker 1: looking to get away from Salon, and I could see
- 11:04Speaker 1: myself getting away from Brandon Miller tonight as well. Definitely
- 11:07Speaker 1: like meetch on that side. On the sixer side, I
- 11:09Speaker 1: think Maxi is a very very solid play at eight
- 11:12Speaker 1: point two. K just looks way too cheap right now
- 11:15Speaker 1: for the role that he's had with Jereed McCain shifting
- 11:17Speaker 1: back to the bench role. It's they're, you know, they're
- 11:20Speaker 1: buying into Maxi being that that lead guard. They tried
- 11:23Speaker 1: out the McCain maxim minutes, it didn't work out too well,
- 11:25Speaker 1: just two undersized, not enough defense out there, So shifting
- 11:30Speaker 1: Kelly would be back to the starting lineup definitely helps
- 11:32Speaker 1: out Maxi a lot. Thirty point five percent usage rade,
- 11:35Speaker 1: twenty four point five percent asis percentage, and over seven
- 11:38Speaker 1: minutes of touch time this season, all leading numbers for
- 11:41Speaker 1: the Sixers, and with Embiid and drumming off the court
- 11:44Speaker 1: the season, very solid one point three point per minute
- 11:46Speaker 1: producer should see upwards of thirty six thirty six plus
- 11:49Speaker 1: minutes in a close matchup.
- 11:50Speaker 3: So I think Maxi is a very solid.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Play And the only other guy I'm really looking to
- 11:55Speaker 1: on the Sixers side would be Paul George seven point
- 11:57Speaker 1: five K. He was pacing for like thirty two thirty
- 12:00Speaker 1: four minutes in the last game against Detroit before the
- 12:02Speaker 1: game got out of hand. Was still very solid in
- 12:05Speaker 1: a short amount of minutes only play twenty six put
- 12:07Speaker 1: up eleven eight and five just under thirty DK points. Yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 1: he got talked up a lot, and I think that
- 12:14Speaker 1: the minutes are gonna start to climb up a little
- 12:15Speaker 1: bit more. They need these wins, so I could see
- 12:17Speaker 1: like thirty four regulation minutes tonight, and you know, he
- 12:20Speaker 1: did a little bit of everything. I think he's gonna
- 12:22Speaker 1: take on a little bit more ball handling, probably stagger
- 12:25Speaker 1: him away from Maxi a little bit in the second
- 12:26Speaker 1: unit to get the ball in his hands a little
- 12:28Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, they should should be able to get
- 12:31Speaker 1: his minutes sticked up here against a team where they
- 12:33Speaker 1: need to get a win, easier opponent in Charlotte. So
- 12:36Speaker 1: I like Maxi and Paul George on the sixer side
- 12:38Speaker 1: and then really like me chitch as the value play.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love it. And just a quick note
- 12:44Speaker 2: on Paul George. I mean, you know I almost rode
- 12:47Speaker 2: in the disc for there night. He is so frustrating
- 12:49Speaker 2: to watch when you're not rostering him and you have
- 12:51Speaker 2: other pieces because it doesn't feel like he ever passes
- 12:54Speaker 2: the ball. But but no, I love it. Are you
- 12:57Speaker 2: on on train with obviously max one, Maxi and Paul George?
- 13:02Speaker 3: Correct?
- 13:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be cool with that tonight on this this
- 13:04Speaker 1: big of a slate, I just don't I don't want to.
- 13:07Speaker 1: I don't want to invest too much in this early
- 13:08Speaker 1: game that has really no NBA Cup importance.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then a couple more questions. Like you said,
- 13:15Speaker 2: you do such a good job breaking it down and
- 13:16Speaker 2: try and give you a couple of questions that somebody
- 13:18Speaker 2: might have out there. McCain off the bench at sixty
- 13:21Speaker 2: eight sounds like you're staying away from him as well
- 13:23Speaker 2: as Yaboo if he finds the starting lineup at fifty seven.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean McCain, definitely, I'm staying away from I
- 13:31Speaker 1: just think that the it's it's gonna be tough for
- 13:33Speaker 1: him to kind of hit ceilings with Maxi back in there.
- 13:36Speaker 1: They're very invested in Maxi, you know, long term, with
- 13:39Speaker 1: that big contract that he got in the off season.
- 13:41Speaker 1: But obviously McCain, your first round pick, definitely has a
- 13:44Speaker 1: lot of juice. But yeah, I just think this is
- 13:47Speaker 1: a little bit too expensive for him coming off the bench.
- 13:49Speaker 3: He's not not.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Really proven to be like a Malik Monk or you know,
- 13:53Speaker 1: somebody like that off the bench that can just flamethrow yet.
- 13:56Speaker 1: But yeah, we need to need the price to come
- 13:58Speaker 1: down a lot more before start playing Jammy Caine.
- 14:01Speaker 3: I just don't know.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Yagua's just a little bit too expensive for me for
- 14:05Speaker 1: I don't know, There's a lot of ways they can
- 14:07Speaker 1: go in the front court. We saw Adam Bona get
- 14:09Speaker 1: in there a lot last game. kJ Martin. They can
- 14:11Speaker 1: go a little bit more small ball. He played really
- 14:12Speaker 1: well last game. Adding Caleb Martin back in there too
- 14:16Speaker 1: kind of takes a little bit of upside away from Yabu.
- 14:18Speaker 1: So I'm not really looking to get to too much here.
- 14:21Speaker 1: It would mainly just be like a last man in
- 14:22Speaker 1: type situation because the value is really bad.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful, couldn't agree more.
- 14:27Speaker 4: Good.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Let's let's get out another game that doesn't matter to
- 14:30Speaker 2: the NBA Cup in Wizards at calvs. Sixteen point favorites
- 14:35Speaker 2: for the Cavaliers in a two thirty four total cooses out.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Ty Jerome, a discord favorite, is questionable. Our guy d
- 14:44Speaker 2: Wade Dan Wade is questionable as well. With Strus out.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Like I said, no impact on the Cup tonight. What
- 14:50Speaker 2: are we thinking here with a possible blowout?
- 14:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see this game getting out of hands
- 14:55Speaker 3: pretty quickly here. Washington just so bad.
- 14:57Speaker 1: They were able to hang around with the Buz the
- 15:00Speaker 1: other night, but I don't see them hanging around with
- 15:02Speaker 1: the Wizards or with the Calves. And I their Calves
- 15:05Speaker 1: are top eleven in defense, second best offense going up
- 15:07Speaker 1: against the dead last defensive rating team dead last in
- 15:10Speaker 1: offense are the Wizards as well. I do think there
- 15:13Speaker 1: are some decent value plays in this game, though, even
- 15:15Speaker 1: from this game, you know.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Being a blowout.
- 15:18Speaker 1: But yeah, the Calves they do they do give up
- 15:21Speaker 1: a little bit of three pointers, so there's a little
- 15:23Speaker 1: bit of interest in Jordan Poole. I would say that
- 15:27Speaker 1: if I were to Playpool, I'd probably want a Calves
- 15:29Speaker 1: piece on the other side, because I just don't The
- 15:31Speaker 1: Wizards have been very willing to get away from these
- 15:35Speaker 1: veterans when the game gets out of hand. They're gonna
- 15:37Speaker 1: keep cool of Bali out there, so I think that
- 15:38Speaker 1: he's pretty safe. But they'll they'll throw out Carrington, They'll
- 15:41Speaker 1: throw at Keishaan George, They'll put in like Jared Butler,
- 15:44Speaker 1: Johnny Davis, Patrick Balowin. They have bodies out there that
- 15:47Speaker 1: they will take away some minutes from Jordan Poole and
- 15:50Speaker 1: you know, Brogden jove out all these guys if the
- 15:53Speaker 1: game is not within reach. So I do think that
- 15:55Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting a rule if I have Jordan Poole.
- 15:57Speaker 1: I want one of the main four Calves guys from
- 16:00Speaker 1: down to Jared Allen. But yeah, not something I'm super
- 16:03Speaker 1: excited about at the seven K price sege. We need
- 16:05Speaker 1: to get the Sean Sullivan's stamp of approval on pool
- 16:08Speaker 1: before playing him.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Right there, right on, right on you no pool, all right,
- 16:13Speaker 2: there we go, there we go, all right, everybody out
- 16:16Speaker 2: of everybody's pool x amount.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of same thing for Brogden too. I'm
- 16:21Speaker 1: not really buying into that that big game. He's just
- 16:23Speaker 1: just a random spike in rebounding. I mean, his his
- 16:26Speaker 1: rebounds can come and go at a moment's notice. Played
- 16:28Speaker 1: thirty minutes last game in a close game versus Milwaukee.
- 16:31Speaker 1: That was one of the better matchups for guards. I'm
- 16:33Speaker 1: okay getting away from Malcolm Brogden at nearly six K.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I would say the only one that have interest in
- 16:38Speaker 1: on the wizard side is Joval because he's likely to
- 16:42Speaker 1: get the start again just a point per minute Monster
- 16:45Speaker 1: obviously the really tough matchup, but one point six to
- 16:48Speaker 1: seven fantasy points for minuted this season is Joval got
- 16:50Speaker 1: to thirty minutes last game in a very similar matchup. Stylistically,
- 16:55Speaker 1: the Bucks are one of the top riom defenses, but
- 16:58Speaker 1: do give up more three pointers, so he's got a
- 17:00Speaker 1: lot of ways that he can get there just with
- 17:01Speaker 1: the rebounds. He even added some more assists. They run
- 17:04Speaker 1: a little bit offense through him. I think that in
- 17:06Speaker 1: singuntree you're probably playing him, but I do think that
- 17:09Speaker 1: in twenty max one fifty max there are ways to
- 17:11Speaker 1: get away from him, because I do think there are
- 17:13Speaker 1: ways that he fails. This price tag definitely would be
- 17:17Speaker 1: Max one, Sar.
- 17:17Speaker 3: And Joe Val.
- 17:19Speaker 1: That's pretty much it on the Washington side. On the
- 17:21Speaker 1: Cleveland side, I have the most interest in the Bigs
- 17:24Speaker 1: just because Washington gives up a ton of points in
- 17:26Speaker 1: the interior. Their offensive rebounding numbers have been really bad,
- 17:29Speaker 1: so I could see Evan Mobley or Jered Allen putting
- 17:31Speaker 1: up a pretty big rebounding game. The scoring inside is
- 17:34Speaker 1: going to come with ease. I do side with Evan Mobley,
- 17:37Speaker 1: just think that he's got the higher ceiling from pure
- 17:40Speaker 1: upside standpoint. Played really well over the weekend forty six
- 17:43Speaker 1: and a half and sixty and a half DK points
- 17:45Speaker 1: versus Atlanta. Very similar matchup there, So I like Mobley
- 17:48Speaker 1: here a good bit. I would be max one Mobley
- 17:50Speaker 1: and Allen max one Mitchell and Garland too. But I
- 17:54Speaker 1: think carsl Vert also should make the player pool as
- 17:56Speaker 1: a value, especially if Tijer Rome were to miss. Ti
- 17:59Speaker 1: Rome has been taken on a lot of usage in
- 18:00Speaker 1: that second unit, but LeVert made his return to lineup
- 18:05Speaker 1: two games ago, played twenty minutes and twenty three minutes
- 18:07Speaker 1: against Boston. This should be a good spot where they
- 18:09Speaker 1: just let him kind of run a little bit, take
- 18:11Speaker 1: away some minutes from Donovan Mitchell who's been playing a
- 18:13Speaker 1: lot more minutes as of late. So I like caris
- 18:15Speaker 1: Lavert a good bit as a value play. That's pretty
- 18:19Speaker 1: much it just a not a super appealing game environment.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I love the Lavert call there at the end.
- 18:25Speaker 2: And like I said, we don't have ownerships posted yet,
- 18:28Speaker 2: but I will go on record and say Joe Val
- 18:30Speaker 2: will obviously be higher owned as well as Jordan Poole.
- 18:32Speaker 2: I think people you know see his price tag and
- 18:34Speaker 2: know his upside and want to target him even though
- 18:38Speaker 2: it's an a game slate that doesn't mean anything. Shout
- 18:41Speaker 2: out to Takedown, We're busted Rio. He knew about our
- 18:44Speaker 2: tech straight before the show started. But I love it. Hey,
- 18:49Speaker 2: let's get to the fun game. I mean I've been
- 18:51Speaker 2: kind of chatting about it the last couple the last
- 18:53Speaker 2: week or so since they had Kid kind of you know,
- 18:56Speaker 2: get ready for this game. Bucks and Pistons. Bucks are
- 19:00Speaker 2: favored by four two twenty and a half total. Giannis
- 19:04Speaker 2: is gonna play, Prince is gonna play Winner Takes to Pool.
- 19:08Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun to break down. I can't
- 19:10Speaker 2: wait to hear what you got.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Yeah, huge game here. I definitely could see some heavy
- 19:15Speaker 1: minutes from the man rotation pieces on both sides of this.
- 19:19Speaker 1: I got to remember that a week and a half ago,
- 19:20Speaker 1: two weeks ago, whenever it was that title had the
- 19:23Speaker 1: shipp or it was this game that went into overtime
- 19:25Speaker 1: had some really big scores from multiple pieces up and
- 19:28Speaker 1: down the line. A little bit of a different scenario
- 19:30Speaker 1: because I believe there were some guys out on the
- 19:33Speaker 1: Detroit side that made Cad look a lot better. It
- 19:36Speaker 1: might have been Ivy that was out, but I believe
- 19:37Speaker 1: somebody was out so.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Because Beasley had like a fifty bomb.
- 19:41Speaker 1: That night, Yeah, yes, I think that Ivy was out
- 19:44Speaker 1: that night. And then obviously Dame was out with the concussion,
- 19:46Speaker 1: so we had a huge role for Giannis, and then
- 19:49Speaker 1: Brook Lopez had a huge game. Tory Prince had a
- 19:51Speaker 1: really big game two. But yeah, that was one of
- 19:54Speaker 1: the better games of the year, and this one I
- 19:56Speaker 1: could see playing out very similarly. Similarly, lower game total,
- 20:00Speaker 1: but I still think that the minutes are going to
- 20:02Speaker 1: get increased here to the point where you should probably.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Would I would give these guys.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Like an extra two to three minute bump because Cave's
- 20:10Speaker 1: been out, you know, he got the late scratch last game.
- 20:13Speaker 1: I think that was kind of just in anticipation for
- 20:15Speaker 1: this game, knowing how big of a game it is,
- 20:17Speaker 1: especially you know, with the Detroit being such a young team,
- 20:20Speaker 1: they obviously want to win this NBA Cup and get
- 20:23Speaker 1: that million dollar prize pool for all the young guys.
- 20:25Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that I'm gonna be given these
- 20:28Speaker 1: guys just a manual boost in terms of minutes, probably
- 20:30Speaker 1: up to like thirty eight thirty nine a piece.
- 20:34Speaker 3: We have.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Matchup wise, both these teams kind of play similar styles
- 20:37Speaker 1: of defense. Both are top seven in rim defense. Bucks
- 20:40Speaker 1: are a huge three point funnel this season, bottom six
- 20:43Speaker 1: ranking there, and the Bucks are also allowing some transition
- 20:46Speaker 1: scoring nothing too glaring, but both teams are bottom six
- 20:50Speaker 1: and pick and roll ball hailing, so that puts these
- 20:52Speaker 1: guards in pretty good spots. Yeah, I think Giannis is
- 20:54Speaker 1: a fantastic play if you can get up to him.
- 20:57Speaker 3: At twelve K. I think the thing that's going to
- 20:59Speaker 3: keep from.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Low owned is that there's just not a lot of
- 21:01Speaker 1: value on the slate, gonna make it very tough to
- 21:03Speaker 1: get to him. But I mean he's one of the
- 21:05Speaker 1: few guys on the slate that can go for one
- 21:07Speaker 1: hundred draftings points. He put up what was it ninety five,
- 21:10Speaker 1: ninety eight, something.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Like that, ninety seven point five yeah, yeah.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Fifty nine real points. So that's the type of the
- 21:16Speaker 3: type of website you're getting for him.
- 21:17Speaker 1: But I mean, he's just been on a tear as
- 21:19Speaker 1: of late, extremely aggressive, double digit free throw attempts in
- 21:22Speaker 1: four straight games, double twenty plus field goal attempts in
- 21:26Speaker 1: four straight games as well, pretty much a lock for
- 21:28Speaker 1: a double double.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Has a couple of triple doubles in there as well.
- 21:31Speaker 1: So I think that Giannie, if you can find the
- 21:33Speaker 1: value to get up to him, I think he's fantastic
- 21:34Speaker 1: spent Damian Lillard, I think is a really strong pivot
- 21:38Speaker 1: off of Giannis. Not really in the sense that Janice
- 21:40Speaker 1: is going to be chalky or anything, but Dame has
- 21:42Speaker 1: quietly been having a very solid stretch of games here
- 21:45Speaker 1: as well. Mentioned how the matchup for pick and roll
- 21:49Speaker 1: scorers against Detroit is very good. Dames second the league
- 21:52Speaker 1: in pick and roll scoring this season, thirty plus points
- 21:55Speaker 1: in three straight games and double doubles in two straight games,
- 21:57Speaker 1: and could see his minutes getting they're close to forty,
- 22:01Speaker 1: maybe thirty eight to forty minutes. I think he's going
- 22:04Speaker 1: slightly overlooked in a very good spot. So I like
- 22:06Speaker 1: Dame a good bit here pretty much in for me.
- 22:09Speaker 1: On the Bucks side, you can make a case for
- 22:12Speaker 1: Brook Lopez because he's been playing a ton of minutes,
- 22:14Speaker 1: but a little bit tougher for him to kind of
- 22:16Speaker 1: reach that upside sharing the court with two high usage
- 22:19Speaker 1: guys like Jiannison Dame. I guess Tory Prince should probably
- 22:22Speaker 1: make your pool as well, just because there's such little
- 22:24Speaker 1: value and maybe twenty is enough on the slate, but
- 22:28Speaker 1: nothing really stands out from these secondary pieces for me
- 22:31Speaker 1: for Milwaukee, and then on the Detroit side, Love Kate tonight.
- 22:34Speaker 1: I think that the price tag is going to keep
- 22:36Speaker 1: people off him. They're not used to paying, you know,
- 22:38Speaker 1: almost ten K for Kve, But he's definitely played like
- 22:40Speaker 1: a ten K player this season. This Kate kind of
- 22:44Speaker 1: strikes me as a guy that cares a lot about
- 22:46Speaker 1: something like the NBA Cup. Just with him being so
- 22:48Speaker 1: young and competitive and Detroit not really having much to
- 22:52Speaker 1: you know, play for the last couple of years, I
- 22:54Speaker 1: think this is a really big spot for Kid. The
- 22:56Speaker 1: matchup versus Milwaukee has been one we've been looking to
- 22:58Speaker 1: attack with opposing arts all season long. They bottom four
- 23:01Speaker 1: and DVP first point guards. This season, Kate played thirty
- 23:05Speaker 1: eight regulation minutes against the Milwaukee Bucks. Last time they played,
- 23:08Speaker 1: put up seventy one point two five DK points, took
- 23:10Speaker 1: thirty four shots. Obviously, having Ivy in there is going
- 23:13Speaker 1: to take a little bit of those shot attempts away
- 23:15Speaker 1: from him. But I wouldn't be surprised to see forty
- 23:18Speaker 1: regulation minutes from Kate tonight in a game that means
- 23:20Speaker 1: a lot.
- 23:21Speaker 3: They aren't back to back.
- 23:22Speaker 1: I just think that they go for it tonight, said
- 23:23Speaker 1: some guys tomorrow, Kate would definitely be a guy that
- 23:26Speaker 1: could see sitting tomorrow if they get this win. So yeah,
- 23:29Speaker 1: I like, I like to spend up a good bit
- 23:30Speaker 1: in this game. Probably not enough enough juice on these
- 23:34Speaker 1: value pieces for either side.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love it. I guess a few questions
- 23:39Speaker 2: on both sides. You touched on brook Lopez for me
- 23:43Speaker 2: just a little too much. You know, I don't roster
- 23:45Speaker 2: brook Lope has very often when I do, he goes
- 23:48Speaker 2: for five threes and they're the most you know, just
- 23:50Speaker 2: the most nail three pointers. Is barely touched the net,
- 23:54Speaker 2: perfect shots. So I agree with everything you said on
- 23:56Speaker 2: the buck side with just Dame and Giannis going over
- 23:59Speaker 2: the Piston side. Now to get sneaky in these game
- 24:02Speaker 2: game stack scenarios, if this was a game that you
- 24:05Speaker 2: were targeting, you know, I believe it's only caid. Could
- 24:08Speaker 2: you see a little sneaky Beasley off the bench at
- 24:11Speaker 2: sixty one kind of come in take some shots because
- 24:13Speaker 2: in my belief, I don't know how deep they go.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Obviously Beef stew is going to get some run as
- 24:18Speaker 2: well as Beasley, and then maybe Holland for a little bit.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Fontessio has been playing well, but I think they run
- 24:24Speaker 2: a shorter rotation tonight. And if that's the case, obviously
- 24:27Speaker 2: six ones a lot. But would he be in your
- 24:30Speaker 2: playerpool kind of as a sneaky low owned option.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so you're gonna need to bump up
- 24:35Speaker 1: his projection a good bit to get him in any lineups.
- 24:38Speaker 1: But I do agree with you that this probably becomes
- 24:40Speaker 1: a eight man rotation. I don't think that Holland's going
- 24:44Speaker 1: to play much tonight, if at all. I don't think
- 24:45Speaker 1: Paul Reid's getting in there. Maybe a sar gets cut
- 24:49Speaker 1: down a little bit, but definitely Fontaca he kind of
- 24:51Speaker 1: got there and blow out last game. Definitely more of
- 24:53Speaker 1: a blowout type of player. But yeah, I could see
- 24:57Speaker 1: Beasley taking those Tim Harwick junior minutes because Tim Harwick
- 24:59Speaker 1: Junior is it has been awful this season. I mean,
- 25:01Speaker 1: he literally put up zero fantasy points against Philly last game.
- 25:04Speaker 2: He was like ten percent on that night too, which
- 25:06Speaker 2: is crazy. I was looking at it. I'm like, geez,
- 25:08Speaker 2: ten percent in the field is dead.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Yeah, and he I mean, I'm kind of surprised that
- 25:13Speaker 1: they haven't started Beasley over at Tim hardaway. But he's, uh,
- 25:17Speaker 1: he's been great off the bench, and I think that
- 25:19Speaker 1: thirty is definitely place. Ye, I agree with you that
- 25:21Speaker 1: I think that Beasley is kind of a sneaky option
- 25:23Speaker 1: this game. I just wish that his price was a
- 25:25Speaker 1: little bit cheaper, like maybe five point five K, because yeah,
- 25:29Speaker 1: we're gonna need every single dollar tonight.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely well, good go from one game winner takes
- 25:35Speaker 2: the pod to the next game winner takes the pod.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Before we do that, you guys, remember we're doing, you know,
- 25:39Speaker 2: para base giving away one hundred hours single entry. If
- 25:41Speaker 2: you have not gone into the discord yet, and given
- 25:45Speaker 2: who you think Rio's top spend up of the night is,
- 25:48Speaker 2: going there and do it now. We're almost about halfway
- 25:52Speaker 2: through the slate. Click the like button, go in there,
- 25:54Speaker 2: let it go. Magic at Nicks Knicks four and a
- 25:58Speaker 2: half point favorites too, fourteen and a half total. I
- 26:02Speaker 2: you know, classic joke. Seems like it's two thousand and eight. Again,
- 26:04Speaker 2: this would be a game in two thousand and eight.
- 26:06Speaker 2: You like to target it to fourteen, not so much
- 26:09Speaker 2: as a as a total. We want to look at
- 26:10Speaker 2: on a big slate. But what are we thinking here?
- 26:13Speaker 2: Usual suspects are out, Gary Harris is out, so not
- 26:17Speaker 2: much injury madness going on in this game.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Yeah, this game is kind of tough for me to
- 26:23Speaker 1: pinpoint what I want to do with because I do
- 26:25Speaker 1: think that this is a huge game obviously for both
- 26:28Speaker 1: teams in terms of the NBA Cup, more so than Knicks,
- 26:31Speaker 1: because Orlando seems like they're pretty locked in to move
- 26:34Speaker 1: forward even with a loss here. Kind Of I just
- 26:38Speaker 1: didn't even see this now, but the you know, Nick's
- 26:40Speaker 1: favored by almost six points kind of tells me that
- 26:43Speaker 1: Orlando probably doesn't push their guys up as much as
- 26:45Speaker 1: I thought they were going to. But yeah, I could see.
- 26:50Speaker 1: It's tough because both teams are really good defensively. Obviously,
- 26:53Speaker 1: the Orlando is like one of the best teams in
- 26:56Speaker 1: the league all around, but their top three defensive rated
- 26:58Speaker 1: team right now are in the bottom nine. But they've
- 27:01Speaker 1: they've had some games that have kind of skewed things
- 27:03Speaker 1: both ways. They you know, they played pretty good against
- 27:06Speaker 1: the Pelicans over the weekend, obviously easier matchup, but yeah,
- 27:10Speaker 1: they're still a pretty solid defense. Both these teams are
- 27:12Speaker 1: very good on the interior. Orlando's top four rim defense,
- 27:17Speaker 1: the Knicks are top eight, But the Knicks are much
- 27:20Speaker 1: bigger of a three point final the season bottom eight
- 27:22Speaker 1: in three pointers allowed per game. Magic really don't have
- 27:25Speaker 1: much weaknesses outside of their pick and roll defense, where
- 27:27Speaker 1: their bottom eight knicks are second worst, and pick and
- 27:29Speaker 1: roll defense. I think there's some clear mismatches there. Yeah,
- 27:34Speaker 1: Franz has been amazing since Paul has been sidelined, averaging
- 27:37Speaker 1: forty seven point three DK points per game. SE's a
- 27:40Speaker 1: pretty big usage rate, increase, assists, rebounding, all that stuff
- 27:42Speaker 1: gets increased. Very tough matchup here going up against og
- 27:46Speaker 1: And and Obi, but he's got a lot of ways to
- 27:48Speaker 1: get there. I just had a lot more interest in
- 27:50Speaker 1: him before I saw the spread is what it is.
- 27:53Speaker 1: But he's probably still playing thirty seven minutes. I just
- 27:55Speaker 1: don't think that that forty is in play because they're
- 27:59Speaker 1: they're pretty long into the wild card. I mean, definitely
- 28:01Speaker 1: a win matters because you get home court advantage, but
- 28:05Speaker 1: if the game is slightly out of hand, I don't
- 28:07Speaker 1: think they're gonna push them too much. Jalen Sugg's been
- 28:11Speaker 1: kind of bad since returning from the hamstring injury in
- 28:14Speaker 1: terms of shooting the ball. Had a good game against Chicago,
- 28:17Speaker 1: but you know, two for six from deep against Brooklyn,
- 28:19Speaker 1: one for three of the other game, just hasn't really
- 28:21Speaker 1: done too much. The syst numbers look pretty solid. It
- 28:23Speaker 1: is a good matchup against these guards on the Knicks
- 28:27Speaker 1: with them being towards the bottom of the league and
- 28:29Speaker 1: pick and roll defense, so I don't mind him if
- 28:31Speaker 1: in like a sneaky game stack. Six point four K
- 28:34Speaker 1: price tag is pretty good. He was kind of up
- 28:36Speaker 1: in like the mid seven k's not too long ago
- 28:38Speaker 1: and paying off in a big way, so I think
- 28:40Speaker 1: that he's a decent option. And then I like Goga
- 28:43Speaker 1: and Wendell Carter here a little bit. Goga have been
- 28:45Speaker 1: playing really good over the weekend. Last three games, had
- 28:48Speaker 1: some massive DK scoring outputs, but really easy matchups. Went
- 28:51Speaker 1: up against the Nets twice in Chicago the other time
- 28:54Speaker 1: two very weak rim defenses, both all the size that
- 28:58Speaker 1: the Knicks have. Obviously co Anthony Towns, They're going to
- 29:01Speaker 1: need him out there for a good amount of minutes.
- 29:03Speaker 1: So I think that I think Goga makes makes some
- 29:05Speaker 1: good sense as a as a value. Played tonight at
- 29:08Speaker 1: just five point three K, and then same for window
- 29:10Speaker 1: Carter Junior. It seems like he's pretty much a full
- 29:12Speaker 1: go now got to twenty eight minutes. Last game returned
- 29:14Speaker 1: from the injury three games ago, played eighteen, twenty six
- 29:18Speaker 1: and then twenty eight. Yeah, he's been solid, very efficient,
- 29:21Speaker 1: shooting the ball five for five last game, four to
- 29:23Speaker 1: five game before that, two to five game before that,
- 29:25Speaker 1: getting right around seven rebounds a game.
- 29:28Speaker 3: So I think that he's a pretty pretty.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Solid option at a power forward position we're usually looking
- 29:31Speaker 1: to spend down at. So I like those guys a
- 29:33Speaker 1: decent bit here. On the Orlanta side, I also think
- 29:36Speaker 1: that KCP is a pretty viable option at four point
- 29:39Speaker 1: three k He shot the ball extremely well over the
- 29:42Speaker 1: last three games, fourteen for twenty four from deep from
- 29:46Speaker 1: the last three games, put up no less than twenty
- 29:47Speaker 1: five point two five DK points in each of the
- 29:50Speaker 1: last three games. And yeah, I think that, honestly, like tonight,
- 29:55Speaker 1: twenty five.
- 29:55Speaker 3: Would be very good.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I'd be happy if if we got twenty five from
- 29:58Speaker 1: KCP tonight. So I like him a lot, very good
- 30:01Speaker 1: matchup against the Knicks that allowing a ton of three
- 30:04Speaker 1: pointers right now, And then the Nick side, I think
- 30:08Speaker 1: that Kat and Towns are the obvious spend ups. Kat
- 30:10Speaker 1: just been a usage monster for this team, the true
- 30:13Speaker 1: alpha on the Knicks right now, averaging fifty one DK
- 30:16Speaker 1: points per game twenty seven point five percent usage rate,
- 30:19Speaker 1: clear upside for sixty plus DK points. Obviously, this is
- 30:22Speaker 1: probably the toughest matchup he's had to date, but on
- 30:25Speaker 1: the season one point three to two point per minute
- 30:27Speaker 1: player and a game that the Knicks need to win
- 30:30Speaker 1: in order to move on. So I Kat's been kind
- 30:32Speaker 1: of in like that thirty three to thirty four minute range.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I think we get to like thirty eight to thirty
- 30:36Speaker 1: nine from him in a close game, and that would
- 30:39Speaker 1: make him a very very strong spind up at the
- 30:41Speaker 1: center position. He usually doesn't get too much ownership and
- 30:43Speaker 1: he just crushes every time. Jennen Broughtson like the matchup
- 30:47Speaker 1: for him a little bit. Obviously, Sugs a very solid defender,
- 30:49Speaker 1: but the really only area of weakness I mentioned at
- 30:52Speaker 1: the top of this game was the pick and roll
- 30:55Speaker 1: defense for the Magic, and Brunson's been playing a lot
- 30:58Speaker 1: better lately. He's fourth in the league and pick and
- 31:00Speaker 1: roll scoring turned it up as a scorer as of late,
- 31:02Speaker 1: thirty plus real points in three of US last six games,
- 31:05Speaker 1: but can also facilitate when he needs to. Seventeen assists
- 31:08Speaker 1: against the Denver Nuggets, a couple double digit assist games
- 31:11Speaker 1: in there, so it seems like he's kind of getting
- 31:14Speaker 1: back into form like we saw last year, and you know,
- 31:16Speaker 1: fitting in a lot more with Kat another guy that
- 31:19Speaker 1: I could see getting up to thirty eight minutes here.
- 31:22Speaker 1: I don't think we see forty from Brunson. They've been
- 31:24Speaker 1: kind of a little bit more cautious with their star
- 31:26Speaker 1: and they do have a little bit more depth at
- 31:29Speaker 1: the guard position if anywhere. You know, got moles McBride
- 31:31Speaker 1: in campaign who are playing really well this season. So
- 31:34Speaker 1: I don't really need to push him too much, but
- 31:35Speaker 1: I do like the matchup for Brunson here a bit.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Josh Hart, I think that he is a pretty solid
- 31:41Speaker 1: bet for forty plus minutes tonight. We've seen him routinely
- 31:45Speaker 1: get up to up about forty minutes in games that
- 31:49Speaker 1: mean nothing. I mean, he played forty two against Dallas
- 31:51Speaker 1: as a Western Conference team. Just does a little bit
- 31:54Speaker 1: of everything, and he's kind of the guy that can
- 31:55Speaker 1: get you a triple double out of nowhere. You'd be
- 31:58Speaker 1: very happy if he got you a double double.
- 31:59Speaker 3: For sure.
- 32:00Speaker 1: At six point seven, K probably starting to come down
- 32:02Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think, yeah, I'm gonna give
- 32:04Speaker 1: him a couple extra minutes tonight in a very important game.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Same for Og and mckel Bridges. Og has kind of
- 32:10Speaker 3: come crashing down.
- 32:11Speaker 1: On Earth after those career nights against Denver in Utah
- 32:15Speaker 1: out West, but he shot zero for fifteen since those
- 32:18Speaker 1: last three games, that last two games from three point range.
- 32:22Speaker 3: So yeah, tough, tough look for Og. I'm probably gonna
- 32:25Speaker 3: get away from him.
- 32:26Speaker 1: I think that I would side with mchal Bridges, but
- 32:29Speaker 1: a lot of ways that things could go wrong for McHale.
- 32:31Speaker 1: He's been kind of losing minutes to those backup guards,
- 32:34Speaker 1: mainly McBride and Campaign, but he did get a going
- 32:39Speaker 1: last game seven or twelve from deep. But yeah, he's
- 32:41Speaker 1: just not shooting the ball all that great, very streaky
- 32:45Speaker 1: this season, so very tough to get to. I think
- 32:47Speaker 1: I like Heart the most out of the secondary pieces
- 32:50Speaker 1: for the Knicks, and then I like Kat and Brunson
- 32:53Speaker 1: pretty equally.
- 32:54Speaker 3: I think they're both pretty solid. Spend up tonight, No,
- 32:57Speaker 3: I love it.
- 32:57Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna fall into the Brunson categor gory
- 33:00Speaker 2: here tonight for a slight discount. I agree. You know
- 33:03Speaker 2: they're they're gonna kind of you monitor him and not
- 33:06Speaker 2: let him go crazy as far as getting those extra
- 33:08Speaker 2: few minutes. But I mean, eighty five hundred for a
- 33:11Speaker 2: guy that we know that can take over, and like
- 33:12Speaker 2: you said, picking up the scoring for me, you know
- 33:16Speaker 2: that that's really it. I mean, I agree with the
- 33:18Speaker 2: hard stuff, A couple hundred dollars more expensive than you know,
- 33:21Speaker 2: obviously feeling good about clicking, and I think Bridges is
- 33:24Speaker 2: going to edge out og for me with a slight
- 33:26Speaker 2: discount from the magic side. Shout out to Ksep getting
- 33:30Speaker 2: a shout out on the show. But it's just France,
- 33:33Speaker 2: And like I said, I I agree with everything that
- 33:35Speaker 2: you're saying. I don't want to get too exposed to
- 33:38Speaker 2: this game. Obviously it means something, but in some of
- 33:40Speaker 2: these matchups, we could see, you know, a real low
- 33:42Speaker 2: scoring total and kind of be stuck with seven other
- 33:46Speaker 2: games that seem interesting before I move on. I saw
- 33:50Speaker 2: it in here. Shout out Marley's in the chat. Shout
- 33:53Speaker 2: out to Marlee. I believe it's a second takedown of
- 33:55Speaker 2: NFL season. I could be wrong. You know, we have
- 33:56Speaker 2: one to start the season. I might have missed something
- 33:58Speaker 2: in between. Shout out to him, appreciate you tuning into
- 34:01Speaker 2: the NBA show, you know, putting some of those NFL
- 34:05Speaker 2: dollars in the NBA pool. Love to see that. But
- 34:08Speaker 2: I think we're time to move on to what is
- 34:09Speaker 2: this the highest total on.
- 34:11Speaker 1: The state Big MMA car this weekend? Everybody's got to
- 34:13Speaker 1: tune into the MMA show on Thursday too.
- 34:16Speaker 2: I love it, shout out to him. I'm not the
- 34:19Speaker 2: MMA guy for me personally. I you know, I love
- 34:22Speaker 2: reading this stuff and kind of, you know, donating some,
- 34:25Speaker 2: but but never really been close so that that's not
- 34:28Speaker 2: my thing. If you can't pronounce half the guys. And
- 34:30Speaker 2: I think I make a mistake on fading female fights.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Maybe that's just me, but I fade those because I
- 34:35Speaker 2: don't see much scoring. But but hey, keeping an NBA
- 34:38Speaker 2: over here, we're at three eighty watching this live. We
- 34:41Speaker 2: shout out to you guys. Everybody smashed the like button
- 34:44Speaker 2: here as we're about halfway through the slate. No impact
- 34:48Speaker 2: here for the NBA Cup Pacers at Raptors. Two thirty
- 34:52Speaker 2: eight total pacers. What is it up to three?
- 34:55Speaker 4: Now?
- 34:55Speaker 2: Up to three point favorites? Really the same stuff here.
- 35:00Speaker 2: I have a questionable tag on Dick and a questionable
- 35:02Speaker 2: tag on nemhard what are we thinking here? And it's
- 35:06Speaker 2: the second highest total on the slate with no impact.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Yeah, no NBA Cup impact here, but definitely an appealing
- 35:13Speaker 1: game from a fantasy perspective. With both teams playing a
- 35:16Speaker 1: little to no defense this season, Pacers are the six
- 35:19Speaker 1: worth six worst defensive rated team, with the Raptors just
- 35:22Speaker 1: behind them at eighth. Pacers are now playing a lot faster,
- 35:26Speaker 1: which is what we've kind of come to expect from
- 35:29Speaker 1: them last season. You know, the same style of defense
- 35:31Speaker 1: as before. There are rim funnel defense that don't allow
- 35:34Speaker 1: a toen of three pointers, although they've been a little
- 35:36Speaker 1: bit worse this year with their three point defense. The
- 35:39Speaker 1: Raptors are pretty much below average in both rim and
- 35:42Speaker 1: three point defense, but allowing a little bit more transition scoring. Obviously,
- 35:47Speaker 1: that's you know, not great against a team like the
- 35:50Speaker 1: Pacers that are going to be looking to get out
- 35:52Speaker 1: and transition and score. But yeah, I mean this game,
- 35:55Speaker 1: this game looks really good. I think you can get
- 35:57Speaker 1: to multiple pieces on both sides, mainly the the guys
- 36:00Speaker 1: up top, but I do think there's a little bit
- 36:01Speaker 1: of an interesting value on the Pacer side. But I'll
- 36:04Speaker 1: start with Tyres Haliburn coming off of two down games
- 36:08Speaker 1: that but before that just shooting lights out, made four
- 36:10Speaker 1: plus three pointers in four stry games. The role looks,
- 36:14Speaker 1: you know, the same as last year for Howie leading
- 36:16Speaker 1: the team in touch time usage looks pretty strong. Assist
- 36:19Speaker 1: numbers look strong. I do think adding Nemhard back into
- 36:23Speaker 1: the equation, as he looks scalable, healthier, does impact him
- 36:26Speaker 1: a bit because that is another guy that can take
- 36:28Speaker 1: away can take away possessions from Tyre's Halliburn. This is
- 36:33Speaker 1: a slightly below average matchup here as well. Raptors have
- 36:35Speaker 1: been very stingy against opposing point guards with Davion Mitchell
- 36:38Speaker 1: out there, Oshai Baji very solid defender, and I just
- 36:42Speaker 1: know that when things go bad for Haliburn, they go
- 36:45Speaker 1: very bad. So I'm not looking to take a big
- 36:46Speaker 1: stand either way. On Tyre's. I'd be okay if I
- 36:49Speaker 1: end up with like ten percent of him, but I
- 36:52Speaker 1: would probably not want like twenty to thirty. I just
- 36:55Speaker 1: it's just too the range of outcomes is a little
- 36:57Speaker 1: bit too wide for him. I do know that he
- 36:59Speaker 1: has sleep and potential, but I'm probably just going to
- 37:01Speaker 1: be around the field. If anything, Siakam gets a very
- 37:05Speaker 1: very solid matchup versus his old team played very well
- 37:08Speaker 1: in the last time the two teams met, twenty nine
- 37:10Speaker 1: point double double forty nine d K points. Raptors room
- 37:13Speaker 1: defense is very weak. That's where is going to get
- 37:15Speaker 1: most of his points. I think that he's in a
- 37:16Speaker 1: pretty solid spot here at seven point six K. I
- 37:18Speaker 1: always like Siakam when he's sub eight K here, Matherin
- 37:23Speaker 1: seems a little bit too expensive here. I do like
- 37:25Speaker 1: the matchup, but just seven K is a little bit
- 37:26Speaker 1: too pricey for him. Adding them hard back into the mix.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Uh and then yeah, DVP wise, really good spot for
- 37:32Speaker 1: Miles Turner. He's six point seven k. Raptors given up
- 37:35Speaker 1: the second most Fantasy points to opposing centers struggle shooting
- 37:38Speaker 1: the ball as of late, but the Raptors are allowing
- 37:41Speaker 1: opposing centers to get there with steals and blocks, allowing
- 37:44Speaker 1: four point six combined steals and blocks per game, and
- 37:47Speaker 1: I think that's definitely what you would like to see
- 37:49Speaker 1: from Turner to have a ceiling type of game. The
- 37:51Speaker 1: rebounding has come down a little bit after Rick Carlo
- 37:54Speaker 1: kind of talked him up and said that they want
- 37:55Speaker 1: him to get double digit rebounds. Hasn't really done that
- 37:58Speaker 1: in a while, but been right there flirting with a
- 38:01Speaker 1: double double. So I do think if we get a
- 38:03Speaker 1: double double from him, he could pay up the Stag
- 38:06Speaker 1: in a pretty big way. So I have interest in
- 38:08Speaker 1: Turner and Siakam the most in terms of spend ups
- 38:11Speaker 1: on the pacers, and then Obi toppin been kind of
- 38:14Speaker 1: coming back to life a little bit. Played twenty two
- 38:16Speaker 1: and twenty five minutes in his last two games. Looks
- 38:19Speaker 1: like a pretty strong value on a slate with not
- 38:21Speaker 1: a ton of value pace up spot here against a
- 38:23Speaker 1: team that struggles in transition. I think that's kind of
- 38:26Speaker 1: where Obi would get most of his scoring done. So yeah,
- 38:28Speaker 1: I think that he makes a ton of sense as
- 38:30Speaker 1: a value option. I guess you could say the same
- 38:32Speaker 1: for Jaris Walker. Three point nine k should be right
- 38:35Speaker 1: around there twenty five minutes a night, and he does
- 38:38Speaker 1: have upsides put up thirty one against Detroit just two
- 38:42Speaker 1: games ago. A little bit tougher though, with neim hardback
- 38:45Speaker 1: in the mix, kind of takes away from a lot
- 38:46Speaker 1: of guys. So I would prefer Obi topping and then
- 38:49Speaker 1: on the raptor side, have a ton of interest in
- 38:51Speaker 1: the three spend ups. I'll start with Scotti Bonds, because man,
- 38:54Speaker 1: he's looked really good lately. I keep seeing tweets about him,
- 39:00Speaker 1: like with the new role as a point guard, but
- 39:02Speaker 1: that's just kind of ignorant because he's he had the
- 39:05Speaker 1: same role last year, Like he he was talked about
- 39:07Speaker 1: as like the point guard for the Raptors. I don't
- 39:09Speaker 1: know why everybody is like surprised that he's doing what
- 39:12Speaker 1: he's doing, but yeah, I mean, he's just played great
- 39:16Speaker 1: since coming back from the injury.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Uh.
- 39:17Speaker 1: These are his game logs the last five games since
- 39:20Speaker 1: returning twenty three, ten and nine, twenty four to ten, ten, seventeen,
- 39:24Speaker 1: twelve and seven, thirty one, fourteen and seven, eighteen, seven
- 39:27Speaker 1: and seven. Posted a twenty eight point seven percent usage rate,
- 39:31Speaker 1: thirty three point six percent assists percentage, and fourteen percent
- 39:34Speaker 1: rebounding rate, which are numbers that are pretty much in
- 39:37Speaker 1: line with a guy like Jokic, with a guy like
- 39:39Speaker 1: Luca Jannis, like guys that can get you a triple
- 39:41Speaker 1: double every single night, and we're getting him for eight
- 39:44Speaker 1: point three k against the Pacers, Like, I think that
- 39:46Speaker 1: he's clearly the best mid range play on the slate.
- 39:51Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll definitely be looking to take a stand
- 39:53Speaker 1: on on Scottie Barnes.
- 39:54Speaker 3: I love the matchup for him. RJ.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Barrett has in a very good spot here, put up
- 39:58Speaker 1: a huge game against the Pacers last time they played,
- 40:01Speaker 1: thirty nine real life, real life points. I don't think
- 40:03Speaker 1: Scotty was available that night. But yeah, the usage is
- 40:06Speaker 1: really just condensing on Barns and r J Barrett right now.
- 40:10Speaker 1: He has largely been unaffected with Scotty Barnes and turning
- 40:13Speaker 1: still posting a very solid usage rate. Yeah, I think
- 40:16Speaker 1: that I want one of these guys in most of
- 40:18Speaker 1: my lamps. I think one of them. One of them
- 40:20Speaker 1: gets there in a pretty big way tonight. And then
- 40:22Speaker 1: Peartles was really good the last two games against Miami
- 40:26Speaker 1: and bam Adebayo, much tougher matchup, but put up double
- 40:28Speaker 1: doubles in both of those games. Pacers are a week
- 40:31Speaker 1: room defense a little bit better in terms of not
- 40:33Speaker 1: allowing a ton of fantasy points to opposing centers, but
- 40:35Speaker 1: he did have a very solid game against them the
- 40:38Speaker 1: last time these teams played. And the Pacers are bottom
- 40:41Speaker 1: five against pick and roll rollman, which is pretty much
- 40:44Speaker 1: the area that Purtle is going to get all of
- 40:46Speaker 1: his points from. So I think that you have interest
- 40:48Speaker 1: in all three of the spend ups, and then the
- 40:50Speaker 1: indie side looks pretty solid as well.
- 40:52Speaker 2: Yeah, no love it. My first question here for the
- 40:56Speaker 2: Raptor side, I think you're gonna be okay going Barns
- 40:59Speaker 2: in Pertle or bear It in Perdle, but no Barnes
- 41:03Speaker 2: in bear it Am. I correct there.
- 41:05Speaker 3: I wouldn't be opposed to it.
- 41:06Speaker 1: I think that if you if you have both of
- 41:08Speaker 1: those guys, you're probably gonna want to just play into
- 41:10Speaker 1: the game stack and hope that it gets like you know,
- 41:14Speaker 1: the shootout, or it goes into overtime and then you
- 41:16Speaker 1: get like a Miles Turner or a Seacam on the comeback.
- 41:20Speaker 2: No love it. Yeah, I love attacking the Sakam price tag,
- 41:23Speaker 2: even though it hasn't worked, you know, every single night
- 41:26Speaker 2: his price tag. I mean we've seen him as low
- 41:27Speaker 2: as like seven to two, especially you add in such
- 41:30Speaker 2: a high total close game revenge narrative. I absolutely love it. It's
- 41:35Speaker 2: really all I got here. I guess if nem Hart
- 41:37Speaker 2: it sounds like he is gonna play if for some
- 41:39Speaker 2: reason he is out, are we loading up the walker chalk?
- 41:43Speaker 2: Or is if he goes up to chalk at thirty
- 41:45Speaker 2: nine hundred, do we get away from that?
- 41:48Speaker 3: Probably get away from it. Yeah, I don't know. Like
- 41:52Speaker 3: he's he's not. His rotation spot is not really guaranteed.
- 41:55Speaker 1: It's kind of for what I've seen from these games,
- 41:58Speaker 1: it's when they need a spark off, the actually kind
- 42:00Speaker 1: of go to him, and if he's hot, they'll give
- 42:01Speaker 1: him some extended run. But Rick Carlisle is not a
- 42:04Speaker 1: guy that is dedicated to really any one in particular,
- 42:07Speaker 1: So it's very tough to get to these back end
- 42:09Speaker 1: rotation guys, especially when you add in Andrew Neimhard And
- 42:13Speaker 1: we know TJ. Mcconne's gonna play a good bit off
- 42:15Speaker 1: the bench, but I mean he should be in there
- 42:17Speaker 1: for two rotations regardless. I think that the upside is
- 42:20Speaker 1: probably a little bit better on Obi toppinh No, the.
- 42:23Speaker 3: Goat Alfred Page just got waived. That sucks.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Somebody would pick him up play well really well, that's funny,
- 42:33Speaker 2: all right? Great? You know, like I said, may I
- 42:35Speaker 2: play my man Patel down there? I really like it.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Just to add on, he's over forty and six out
- 42:42Speaker 2: of nine, so kind of checks the box for me.
- 42:44Speaker 2: But but moving on Utah at Thunder Thunder thirteen and
- 42:49Speaker 2: a half point favorite, I believe we have posted don't
- 42:51Speaker 2: know if it's moved, but two twenty four total. Okay
- 42:55Speaker 2: See needs to win this game pretty big. I don't
- 42:59Speaker 2: know how to decide for I hoping you have a
- 43:01Speaker 2: lean on it. I think okay See obviously wins the
- 43:03Speaker 2: game handily. But do they push starters and key players
- 43:07Speaker 2: a little extra to win?
- 43:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so.
- 43:10Speaker 1: They said at the beginning of the NBA Cup that
- 43:12Speaker 1: they're not gonna treat these games any differently. I don't
- 43:15Speaker 1: really know if they if they mean that, but like, regardless,
- 43:19Speaker 1: they still want to win games. They want to win
- 43:21Speaker 1: as many games as they can with chet out, this
- 43:23Speaker 1: is a really good spot for them. I don't think
- 43:25Speaker 1: that we're gonna It's not like a like I could
- 43:28Speaker 1: see Detroit and Milwaukee carrying a lot more tonight about
- 43:31Speaker 1: these games, and the same with the Spurs and the Suns.
- 43:34Speaker 1: Obviously a win would go a long way, but I
- 43:36Speaker 1: think they need to win by like twenty five or.
- 43:38Speaker 3: Thirty, which is very much possible.
- 43:40Speaker 1: Going up against the Jazz that are just a train
- 43:43Speaker 1: wreck on both sides of the court. See, I don't
- 43:47Speaker 1: in insummation, I don't think that they're gonna take this
- 43:50Speaker 1: game any more seriously than they would any other game.
- 43:54Speaker 1: So probably still going to see regular you know, thirty
- 43:56Speaker 1: six minutes from Shaye from j dub thirty two from Hartenstein.
- 44:00Speaker 1: But yeah, matchup wise, I think this is a really
- 44:02Speaker 1: good spot for these guys to put up pretty big scores.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Jazz bottom two defense, bottom five offense, allowing a ton
- 44:07Speaker 1: of three pointers as of late dead last in transition
- 44:09Speaker 1: going up against Oka See, whose rank eighth in transition
- 44:12Speaker 1: scoring the season. Only area of weakness for Oka See
- 44:15Speaker 1: is their three point catch a shoot defense. There are
- 44:18Speaker 1: a couple of guys that kind of stand out from
- 44:19Speaker 1: the Jazz side, but nothing too glaring. They're still a
- 44:24Speaker 1: very solid overall defense. Beyond that, I'll just hit break
- 44:28Speaker 1: the Jazz pieces down really quick here, because it seems
- 44:31Speaker 1: pretty easy. I think that if you're getting to like
- 44:32Speaker 1: a John Collins or Lori Markinen, I would want okay
- 44:36Speaker 1: See on the other side, I just don't see either
- 44:38Speaker 1: of them doing enough in a blowout type scenario. To
- 44:42Speaker 1: be viable on the slate. If the game is close,
- 44:45Speaker 1: probably both of them getting extended to thirty six or
- 44:47Speaker 1: so minutes and okay, see would definitely want to win
- 44:51Speaker 1: that game, So probably getting you know, a back and
- 44:53Speaker 1: forth affair because I don't think I don't think the
- 44:55Speaker 1: Jazz are winning a defense about it. I think it's
- 44:57Speaker 1: going to be if if both teams are playing well offensively,
- 45:00Speaker 1: that's how they stay close. Collins probably my preferred piece
- 45:03Speaker 1: of the two. He's just been very solid as the
- 45:05Speaker 1: starter of the season, averaging just under forty one DK
- 45:07Speaker 1: points per game. Laurie does have the matchup that looks
- 45:11Speaker 1: a bit better for three point shooters. Yeah, so those
- 45:14Speaker 1: are the only two guys up top I'm looking to.
- 45:16Speaker 1: I think Sensiba is pretty interesting at three point seven
- 45:19Speaker 1: K as a value piece on this slate that we
- 45:21Speaker 1: need some value playing, you know, right around twenty minutes
- 45:25Speaker 1: a night. Take attempting six or more threes in every
- 45:28Speaker 1: game since he's kind of cracked the rotation. Yeah, he's
- 45:31Speaker 1: been been impressive as a as a shooter. He's like
- 45:34Speaker 1: looked like a very very solid Shooter's got a very
- 45:36Speaker 1: slow release, but they go down more often than not,
- 45:39Speaker 1: So I don't think that he's terrible as a value play.
- 45:43Speaker 1: That's pretty much all I'm looking to in this game.
- 45:45Speaker 1: I just think that there's a good chance they that
- 45:47Speaker 1: game blows out, which would also give Senseiba a little
- 45:51Speaker 1: bit more run in that fourth quarter if they're down
- 45:52Speaker 1: by like twenty or thirty points, I would I would
- 45:54Speaker 1: imagine the blowout lineup is something like Sensible Isaiah Collier.
- 46:02Speaker 1: They've run County George out there sometimes, but it's probably
- 46:04Speaker 1: gonna be like Johnny choosing and Andrew you Bang something
- 46:07Speaker 1: like that, unless Michael Potter is and then then he'd
- 46:10Speaker 1: be out there for blowout.
- 46:12Speaker 3: Yeah. I like those three pieces.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Definitely would want okay see with either of John Collins
- 46:16Speaker 1: or Lourie, and then I like Sensaba as a one
- 46:18Speaker 1: off value play on the OKC side. Yeah, SGA should
- 46:21Speaker 1: smash in a big way here at ten point three
- 46:23Speaker 1: K looks like a very solid price tag. Been a
- 46:26Speaker 1: you know, a smash spot for opposing guards all season long.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Jazz second worst DVP versus point guards this season. SGA
- 46:33Speaker 1: torched the Jazz in every game last season, scored no
- 46:35Speaker 1: less than fifty four DK points in four street games.
- 46:38Speaker 3: But the one concern I do have this blowout.
- 46:40Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna pushing out there too much
- 46:42Speaker 1: because I said they don't really care too much about
- 46:44Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. But he's still had a you know,
- 46:47Speaker 1: pretty solid uptick in usage with Chet out average one
- 46:49Speaker 1: point five four Fantasy points for a minute, So he's
- 46:52Speaker 1: a totally fine spent up option tonight. Another smashpot for
- 46:55Speaker 1: Jill and Williams two as well. Jazz are awful in transition.
- 46:59Speaker 1: I think that's where Jayi Williams kind of thrives the most.
- 47:01Speaker 1: On offense. He does everything really well, but I could
- 47:04Speaker 1: definitely see him get going in transition tonight. Jazz have
- 47:07Speaker 1: the highest turnover percentage in the league this season. We
- 47:10Speaker 1: could see a game where we get like four to
- 47:13Speaker 1: five steals from Jadab easy transition transition scoring averaging forty
- 47:17Speaker 1: seven DK points per game without Chet this season, and
- 47:19Speaker 1: the Jazz are lying the third most Fantasy points per
- 47:21Speaker 1: game two opposing power forward. So I like Jadab as
- 47:25Speaker 1: a pivot off of Chet fifteen hundred cheaper. That could
- 47:27Speaker 1: go a long way tonight if we want to build
- 47:29Speaker 1: into the mid tier. Same thing for Isaiah Hernstein. He's
- 47:32Speaker 1: been magnificent since making his debut for OKC five games ago,
- 47:36Speaker 1: with no less than thirty eight and a half DK
- 47:38Speaker 1: points in every game with upside of forty six plus
- 47:41Speaker 1: DK points. I love the matchup for Fronstein. He can
- 47:44Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything, been a rebounding machine
- 47:46Speaker 1: since he's cracked the starting lineup, and the Jazz are
- 47:50Speaker 1: lying the third most Fantasy points per games to opposing centers.
- 47:53Speaker 1: Walker Kessler has been a very solid interior defender, but
- 47:56Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways that the Hearts I can
- 47:58Speaker 1: get there with the Jazz over three blocks per game,
- 48:01Speaker 1: we could see a big spike in blocks and steals
- 48:03Speaker 1: for Guali Hartenstein, Yeah, smash spot for all these. Okay,
- 48:06Speaker 1: see spend ups and then as far as these secondary
- 48:09Speaker 1: pieces go, I think you're gonna want to get to
- 48:11Speaker 1: some of these just with it being such a great
- 48:13Speaker 1: matchup and little value.
- 48:14Speaker 3: I do think Cason Wallace is the best out of.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Out of the U the four guys down low at
- 48:22Speaker 1: four point three K. He's been playing a lot more
- 48:24Speaker 1: minutes as of late, and it kind of strikes me
- 48:26Speaker 1: as the guy that can get going with some steals here.
- 48:28Speaker 1: So I think Cason Wallace would be my favorite, don't
- 48:30Speaker 1: mind lou Dort a little bit too expensive. And then
- 48:34Speaker 1: I guess Isaiah Joe is probably the next best at
- 48:37Speaker 1: three point seven K, but we need him to hit
- 48:39Speaker 1: some shots in this one.
- 48:41Speaker 2: Yeah, no love it. I guess My only kind of
- 48:44Speaker 2: you know thing to note there would be Obviously the
- 48:47Speaker 2: Jazz don't rate out well versus centers as far as
- 48:50Speaker 2: you know defense. But with kesper back, Am I wrong
- 48:53Speaker 2: that he's a he's a better defender? He missed some games,
- 48:55Speaker 2: so I think that stat might be a little skewed.
- 48:59Speaker 2: Am I wrong? And kind of getting off some Hartenstein
- 49:01Speaker 2: at seven to three because I think Hester's a little
- 49:03Speaker 2: bit better of a defender.
- 49:05Speaker 1: There's a yeah, they the numbers definitely look a little
- 49:09Speaker 1: bit more skewed because he's been out for a while,
- 49:11Speaker 1: But even the early portion of the season, they were
- 49:13Speaker 1: still giving up a good amount of fancy points. I
- 49:15Speaker 1: think it's just because they give up so many steals
- 49:17Speaker 1: and blocks that it kind of gives these centers a
- 49:21Speaker 1: little bit a little bit of a bigger boost. But yeah,
- 49:23Speaker 1: you definitely correct that it's not not a smash spot
- 49:26Speaker 1: in terms of scoring for the centers that he's done
- 49:30Speaker 1: a pretty solid job limiting interior scoring.
- 49:33Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's been playing well and there we had
- 49:36Speaker 2: some winners with him in their sneaky sub ten percent owned.
- 49:40Speaker 2: But hey, six down, two to go. Last time, I'll
- 49:43Speaker 2: say it, smash the leg button if you haven't yet
- 49:45Speaker 2: given Rio's top spent on the slate in the discord
- 49:49Speaker 2: where Para Bay is given away the one hundred dollars
- 49:51Speaker 2: single Tonight, two games left, both really interesting. First one,
- 49:57Speaker 2: we're gonna go Grizzlies at MAVs point spread in favor
- 50:01Speaker 2: of the MAVs to forty four total. Biggest on the slate,
- 50:06Speaker 2: Clay's questionable, Lively's questionable, Mark Marshall's out. MAVs win. They
- 50:13Speaker 2: need to win big here, if we're not mistaken. Is
- 50:15Speaker 2: that correct?
- 50:16Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so.
- 50:17Speaker 1: They also need a couple other things to go their way.
- 50:20Speaker 1: Yeah they okay, see okay, See needs to lose and
- 50:23Speaker 1: Portland needs to lose, but they'll kind of be playing
- 50:26Speaker 1: side by side. So yeah, we'd expect them to just
- 50:29Speaker 1: play this game up like outright great.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Like I said, Clay questionable, Lively questionable, Marshall's out interesting here,
- 50:39Speaker 2: because for me personally, before you dive in, I'm not
- 50:41Speaker 2: falling in love with these Grizzlies only you know, dogged
- 50:44Speaker 2: by four points in a two forty four total, telling
- 50:47Speaker 2: me if I'm missing something here.
- 50:49Speaker 1: No, I don't really think you are. I was actually
- 50:51Speaker 1: surprised to see how high the total was with these
- 50:54Speaker 1: teams have been very solid defensively all season long. Both
- 50:58Speaker 1: are top five defenses. Grizzlies do bring the pace in
- 51:02Speaker 1: game environments. They've been towards the top of the league
- 51:05Speaker 1: and in terms of offensive pace this season, so maybe
- 51:08Speaker 1: that's where this is coming from. But yeah, I mean
- 51:11Speaker 1: it's it's very tough to get to these Grizzlies pieces
- 51:13Speaker 1: because they're kind of running out a Warriors like rotation
- 51:17Speaker 1: with twelve to thirteen guys projected to see minutes on
- 51:20Speaker 1: a nightly basis, So it makes it very tough to
- 51:22Speaker 1: get to any of them. If you're spending up for
- 51:25Speaker 1: a guy like Jaw, you need him to be extremely
- 51:27Speaker 1: efficient in the minutes he's that he's playing. It's not
- 51:30Speaker 1: a great matchup, he's done it before in thirty minutes.
- 51:33Speaker 1: But yeah, just not a place I'm looking to invest
- 51:37Speaker 1: a lot of my roster spaces too. I think that
- 51:40Speaker 1: Marcus Smart would probably be the best of the bunch,
- 51:43Speaker 1: just because he's, you know, four point eight K been
- 51:45Speaker 1: playing a lot better off the bench. The assist numbers
- 51:48Speaker 1: have looked really good. He's shooting the ball pretty well.
- 51:51Speaker 1: That's pretty much it, though. I mean, you're just not
- 51:54Speaker 1: you don't know who's gonna be the guy on a
- 51:56Speaker 1: nightly basis, so I'd rather just not risk it because
- 51:58Speaker 1: I don't even know if the payoff is even that big,
- 52:01Speaker 1: So really not looking to get to anybody on Memphis side.
- 52:04Speaker 1: On the Dallas side, I think it's a little bit
- 52:05Speaker 1: more interesting. Luca returned last game, was very good. Then
- 52:09Speaker 1: it's gonna beat thirty six seven to thirteen seventy two
- 52:12Speaker 1: point twenty five DK points, which I believe was his
- 52:15Speaker 1: best fantasy outing of the season. Obviously, that was without
- 52:18Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. Kyrie is gonna be back tonight, so he's
- 52:20Speaker 1: gonna defer to him a little bit. But it is
- 52:22Speaker 1: a good price tag for Luca. I'm definitely gonna be
- 52:25Speaker 1: max one Luca and Kyrie.
- 52:26Speaker 3: I don't really.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Love the spot for either of them in particular, but
- 52:31Speaker 1: I think that the price tage is good enough for
- 52:33Speaker 1: Luca to get there on this big of a slate
- 52:35Speaker 1: if we do get some value opening up PJ is
- 52:38Speaker 1: a little bit too expensive now, not a great matchup.
- 52:40Speaker 1: If Lively misses, I think Gafford is in play, but
- 52:43Speaker 1: not a smash value by any means, still going to
- 52:45Speaker 1: be splitting some of those center minutes with Maxi Kleiba,
- 52:47Speaker 1: So we probably don't get thirty plus out of Gafford.
- 52:51Speaker 1: And then if Clay misses, then you could probably look
- 52:54Speaker 1: at Quinn Grimes. It is a good matchup for three
- 52:56Speaker 1: point shooters. Grimes has been shooting lights out as of late. Yeah,
- 53:01Speaker 1: I mean he's made four plus threes in three of
- 53:03Speaker 1: his last or in each of his last three games.
- 53:06Speaker 1: And if Clayward and miss, probably gonna see thirty six
- 53:08Speaker 1: plus minutes from Grime tonight. Would also mc Dinwiddie a
- 53:11Speaker 1: little bit more interesting as well if Clayword and miss,
- 53:13Speaker 1: because they'd be pretty thin at that wing spot. So yeah,
- 53:17Speaker 1: not a game I'm looking to get too deep into,
- 53:20Speaker 1: but I understand if people did want to.
- 53:22Speaker 3: It is a really solid total.
- 53:25Speaker 2: Yeah, no, great, Yeah, it's not fun for me rostering
- 53:29Speaker 2: a JJJ. I just don't know what it is. I
- 53:32Speaker 2: feel like every time a roster him, he stands behind
- 53:34Speaker 2: the three point line and you're like begging for him
- 53:36Speaker 2: to score, and then he hits back to back threes
- 53:38Speaker 2: and he kind of fall back into that trap again.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Like on the golf course when you par birdie seventeen
- 53:43Speaker 2: or eighteen, they get you to come back no matter
- 53:44Speaker 2: what you shot. But no love it question in here
- 53:48Speaker 2: takedown what happens if a couple people guess the same thing.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Reel is going to pick his favorite person. So no,
- 53:54Speaker 2: I'll just they completely random. But we're one game away
- 53:58Speaker 2: from the giveaway here with a pretty good spot here
- 54:04Speaker 2: Spurs and Suns seven and a half point favors for
- 54:07Speaker 2: the Suns two twenty nine total, Trey Jones out, so
- 54:13Speaker 2: Hammed probable, be ill probable. And then the big news
- 54:16Speaker 2: in my opinion obviously in the rest of the field
- 54:18Speaker 2: is nurk is out tonight, curious to see what you
- 54:22Speaker 2: have to play here and is plumbly obviously in play.
- 54:25Speaker 2: But will you get into him at four k I.
- 54:28Speaker 3: Don't think so.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked pretty good earlier in the year when
- 54:32Speaker 1: when Nurkic was out, but they've kind of found something
- 54:35Speaker 1: in Igadoro. He's been playing very well, kind of behind plumbling,
- 54:39Speaker 1: you know, kind of taking away some of those minutes.
- 54:41Speaker 1: So I think that if I'm getting to one of them,
- 54:43Speaker 1: I would probably choose Igodoro. He looks like he's a
- 54:46Speaker 1: little bit more well equipped to defend Wenby tonight, with
- 54:49Speaker 1: him just being younger, a little bit more athletic and
- 54:51Speaker 1: versatile as a defender. Would definitely be Max one of
- 54:54Speaker 1: those two guys. But yeah, I don't I don't love
- 54:58Speaker 1: the Sun side here. This is a huge game for
- 55:00Speaker 1: both teams because they do need to win. Definitely bigger
- 55:03Speaker 1: for the Spurs because if they win.
- 55:04Speaker 3: Then they're in.
- 55:05Speaker 1: They win their their group. The Sons would need a
- 55:08Speaker 1: little bit more to go their way, but they still
- 55:10Speaker 1: would have a pretty good shot at taking the wild card.
- 55:14Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not really too excited about these Sun pieces.
- 55:17Speaker 3: I do think you.
- 55:18Speaker 1: Could get to both Booker and Durant tonight. I preferre Durant.
- 55:21Speaker 1: I think the matchup is a little bit better for him,
- 55:23Speaker 1: with Booker likely to be guarded by I mean, there's
- 55:27Speaker 1: a chance it's Jeremy Soshan who's making his return to
- 55:29Speaker 1: the lineup or Stefan Castle, two guys that I think
- 55:32Speaker 1: are pretty solid defenders. I think that KD likely would
- 55:35Speaker 1: see Harrison Barnes on the other side, which I like.
- 55:38Speaker 1: That matchup a lot better for him. It just seems
- 55:41Speaker 1: like the floor is a little bit safer on KD
- 55:43Speaker 1: with the rebounding upside, and obviously he's like one of
- 55:45Speaker 1: the most efficient scorers to ever play the game, so
- 55:48Speaker 1: I think that he's He's a little bit better at
- 55:51Speaker 1: the position point guard, shooting guard usually pretty pretty strong
- 55:54Speaker 1: and power forward. I would just rather just eat the
- 55:56Speaker 1: chalk there. Yeah, but I don't I don't love this
- 56:00Speaker 1: this side of the Suns unless we get some random
- 56:04Speaker 1: out pieces. I think you can make a case for
- 56:06Speaker 1: Royce O'Neil at four point five k just because he
- 56:08Speaker 1: does a little bit of everything. Very solid defender, could
- 56:11Speaker 1: could kind of he kind of pays off his tag
- 56:14Speaker 1: and in different ways, like he could get steals. He
- 56:17Speaker 1: sometimes involved as a pass or more. The rebounding has
- 56:19Speaker 1: always been pretty solid, and then he's knocking down the threes.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Then he's usually a pretty solid value piece. I don't
- 56:25Speaker 1: mind Royce O'Neil, but yeah, nothing too much standing out
- 56:29Speaker 1: on the Sun side, on the Spur side. Yeah, I
- 56:33Speaker 1: love Wenby tonight at ten point six. K got to
- 56:36Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes against the Jazz the last in season
- 56:38Speaker 1: tournament game, and then just coming off of a triple
- 56:40Speaker 1: double against the Sacramento went for eighty point five DK points.
- 56:45Speaker 1: He's one of the few raw players or a few
- 56:47Speaker 1: players on the slate that could contend with Giannis for
- 56:51Speaker 1: highest Fantasy scorer on the night. He's just been elite
- 56:54Speaker 1: as a fantasy point permanent guy since coming into the league.
- 56:56Speaker 1: One point seventy five points permitted this season. Probably gonna
- 56:59Speaker 1: see thirty six plus minutes tonight with upside for a
- 57:02Speaker 1: little bit more if the game's close. I think the
- 57:05Speaker 1: matchup is tougher with no Nurkics down there because Nurkic
- 57:07Speaker 1: is a stiff, plumbley and Igudaro a lot better athletically
- 57:11Speaker 1: and versatile on defense. But yeah, he's shooting, really saw
- 57:15Speaker 1: it from beyond the arc lately. Been seeing a huge
- 57:18Speaker 1: uptick in three point volume this season. Made at least
- 57:20Speaker 1: four or threes in seven of his last eight games. Yeah,
- 57:23Speaker 1: I think that he's a fantastic span up tonight at
- 57:25Speaker 1: ten point six K, but Jeremy Soshan returning kind of
- 57:29Speaker 1: gets me off these secondary pieces. I think you can
- 57:31Speaker 1: make a case for Chris Paul at six K, but
- 57:34Speaker 1: we had we did see a little bit of a.
- 57:38Speaker 3: I don't know, like even split in ball handling when
- 57:40Speaker 3: Socian is in there.
- 57:40Speaker 1: He they try to use him as a point guard
- 57:44Speaker 1: last season didn't really work out. Also weird that he's
- 57:47Speaker 1: only center eligible now. But yeah, a little bit tougher
- 57:51Speaker 1: for me to get to Chris Paul. I do like
- 57:52Speaker 1: the matchup against the Suns. They've been pretty bad against
- 57:55Speaker 1: pick and roll defense, but he's very unlikely to to
- 58:00Speaker 1: see a big spiking minutes, probably capped out or like
- 58:02Speaker 1: thirty four, but more than likely not, probably in like
- 58:04Speaker 1: the thirty to thirty two minute range. So I don't
- 58:08Speaker 1: really love these secondary pieces. I guess Harrison Barnes is
- 58:12Speaker 1: fine too, just because we might need some value on
- 58:14Speaker 1: the slate and he's probably gonna play twenty seven to
- 58:16Speaker 1: thirty minutes.
- 58:16Speaker 3: But don't love it.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you know, just I agree with everything.
- 58:22Speaker 2: I think The funny thing is I think Wimby leads
- 58:24Speaker 2: the league in like high scoring games that aren't on
- 58:28Speaker 2: main slates, Like I feel like it's like always like
- 58:30Speaker 2: a Sunday afternoon, some random day where not a lot
- 58:33Speaker 2: of people are super daled in the NBA, and he
- 58:35Speaker 2: drops like an eighty bomb, ninety bomb whatever you heard
- 58:38Speaker 2: it here first. Rio's now falling into the plumbly stuff,
- 58:41Speaker 2: which you know I love to hear. Right now, you
- 58:44Speaker 2: know what I see is kind of like high twenties
- 58:46Speaker 2: in ownership. We don't have it posted yet, but real quick,
- 58:50Speaker 2: if you haven't done it yet, we're about to do
- 58:51Speaker 2: it right now, throw in top play the slate for
- 58:54Speaker 2: real in the discord. One hundred dollars, single entry from
- 58:57Speaker 2: Para base going to a member. Four hundred and sixteen
- 59:00Speaker 2: people live. Another great show. We appreciate it. We kept
- 59:03Speaker 2: it under an hour, which is great. It'll go a
- 59:05Speaker 2: little bit over today. Kind of kills some time here
- 59:09Speaker 2: for thirty seconds or a minute before Rio gets the
- 59:13Speaker 2: winner out of the discord one more time. Black Friday fifty.
- 59:17Speaker 2: Don't know how we're still running it now that we're
- 59:18Speaker 2: way past Black Fridays and pass Cyber Monday, but everybody
- 59:22Speaker 2: jump in if you're not a member yet. Absolutely crushing
- 59:24Speaker 2: in all sports and just the conversations you get to
- 59:28Speaker 2: have in the discord is what makes it great. I mean,
- 59:31Speaker 2: in every sport, all throughout the day, all throughout the night,
- 59:34Speaker 2: whether it's early morning, you know, chatting football on Tuesday
- 59:37Speaker 2: before the First Look show, or if it's you know,
- 59:40Speaker 2: Saturday night and none of us are out, you know,
- 59:42Speaker 2: at the bars party and we're talking NBA strategy for
- 59:45Speaker 2: the up and coming weeks. Great community, everybody join in,
- 59:49Speaker 2: But Rio your turn to pick the winner. First of all,
- 59:53Speaker 2: who was the answer to your favorite spend up tonight?
- 59:57Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer was Wemby loved love him tonight definitely
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: gonna be I think he's on the Winner tonight. But
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: I agree with what you said about him kind of
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: being on these obscure slates. I remember last year when
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: I got my uh my Live Final seat, like a
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: week before the Live Final, it was actually on a
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Sunday like a four or five game slate where Wemby
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: was the It was on the Winner for me, and
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: then I think when I won the uh the fade
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: away last year was also on like a random like Thursday,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: four game slate or something like that. So yeah, Wemby
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: is is gonna be the top spin for me tonight, right,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: and then we'll do the do the giveaway once we
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: get off of.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: Here, great, no problem, you want to do that in
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: the discord.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll doing the discord.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: Sounds like a plan, you guys. Thank you very much. Again,
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: four hundred people live if you haven't clicked the like button.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Helped us out with the algorithm. But we continue to
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: set records here, you know. Discord's great. Everybody. Everybody's just
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: in in tip top shape, ready for some takedowns. That's it.
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: Any any hot takes before we get go? And I say,
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: Womby was the top? I put you on the spot here.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: Anything crazy you think happening tonight?
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: I think that the Pistons take down the Bucks and
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: we Kate puts up a monster game.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: Dam you stole it. I'm all over this Pistons tonight.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: This is gonna be a good one. But but all right,
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: all right guys right at an hour. Thank you guys
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: very much. Everybody. Good luck tonight, and let's ship it.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: Where's the clothes?
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: H