Latest / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff / NFL Draft 1st Round Reaction: Ty Simpson to Rams, Carnell Tate to Titans, Giants & Jets winners?
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing?
- 0:18Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast, The NFL First Round
- 0:23Speaker 1: has concluded, and I got some thoughts, I got some takes. Obviously,
- 0:27Speaker 1: the shocking move of the night was the Rams taking
- 0:30Speaker 1: Ty Simpson and then Sean mcvay's reaction. He did not
- 0:34Speaker 1: look thrilled. So we'll dive into that. We'll dive into
- 0:37Speaker 1: all the other stuff in the first round. What I liked,
- 0:39Speaker 1: what I didn't like? The Titans, the Giants, the Chiefs.
- 0:43Speaker 1: We got a lot of action. Somehow, Ruben Bain falls
- 0:46Speaker 1: to fifteen. No brainer pick for Jason Light. We've been
- 0:50Speaker 1: talking about Fernando Mendoza for months, so there's probably not
- 0:53Speaker 1: much to say there. But we got a lot going on,
- 0:57Speaker 1: and you guys know the drill. If you listen on Colins,
- 1:00Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to three and Out. All the
- 1:03Speaker 1: videos are up on Netflix, so if you'll never miss
- 1:06Speaker 1: a thing, just hit the alert button and let's talk
- 1:10Speaker 1: what just happened. I think the for me, the most
- 1:14Speaker 1: shocking pick of the night, and that would be Sean
- 1:17Speaker 1: McVay lessening in the La Rams picking Ty Simpson. I
- 1:22Speaker 1: did not view Ty Simpsons as a first round pick.
- 1:25Speaker 1: I could not have pulled the trigger whether I needed
- 1:28Speaker 1: a quarterback or whether I was in a position like
- 1:30Speaker 1: the Rams to red shirt a guy and have him,
- 1:34Speaker 1: you know, waiting in the wings. I could not have
- 1:37Speaker 1: done it from a talent standpoint. But more, this is
- 1:42Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't played much football that when he did,
- 1:44Speaker 1: he got injured. He does not fit the physical prototype.
- 1:49Speaker 1: I mean that they've had two quarterbacks under McVeigh. Jared Goff,
- 1:53Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, is six', five was a
- 1:57Speaker 1: three year starter in, college And Matt stapf for. Now
- 2:00Speaker 1: they got him at the latter stages of his, career
- 2:04Speaker 1: but it is one of the more talented guys to
- 2:06Speaker 1: ever come out of college just as a pure prospect
- 2:10Speaker 1: with his physical. Characteristics and you, know he's not quite
- 2:13Speaker 1: the same, guy especially these last. COUPLE i know he
- 2:15Speaker 1: was fantastic last year because he's winning with his. Head
- 2:18Speaker 1: he still got a big, arm but he doesn't move
- 2:20Speaker 1: quite like he did even just a couple of years.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Ago BUT i, Mean Matt stafford's like an all time,
- 2:25Speaker 1: talent checks all the, boxes. Right If John elway is
- 2:29Speaker 1: like a ten out of ten of like athleticism meets
- 2:32Speaker 1: arm strength meets the. Intellect stafford's pretty, high you, know
- 2:37Speaker 1: and to, Me Ty simpson is just not. That, NOW
- 2:42Speaker 1: i went and clicked on before we, uh before we
- 2:46Speaker 1: fired over the computer and hit record. HERE i, said
- 2:50Speaker 1: you know, WHAT i want to watch a couple of
- 2:51Speaker 1: minutes of this Less sneed McVeigh press. Conference you know
- 2:55Speaker 1: what my big takeaway, WAS i don't know If sean McVay. Thrilled.
- 2:59Speaker 1: NOW i have a hard, time at this point in
- 3:01Speaker 1: time in their relationship thinking that Less need would do
- 3:06Speaker 1: something Without sean mcvay's. Blessing LIKE i think you try
- 3:10Speaker 1: to be in cahoots and work. Together but WHEN i
- 3:13Speaker 1: Watch sean mcvay's body, language AND i would recommend anyone
- 3:16Speaker 1: you just go on the, internet type in Rams thursday
- 3:21Speaker 1: night press conference and you tell me if you Think
- 3:24Speaker 1: sean McVay is doing cartwheels down the hallway jumping for.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Joy BECAUSE i haven't had a chance to watch a
- 3:31Speaker 1: lot of press, conferences But i've been doing this long.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Enough when you make a first round, pick whether you're
- 3:37Speaker 1: a team like The chiefs who plans on being right
- 3:40Speaker 1: back to the Super, bowl or whether you're a team
- 3:42Speaker 1: like The jets or The browns or The dolphins who.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Suck you're gonna be. Excited you're gonna be fired. Up
- 3:48Speaker 1: it's a big night you've been. GRINDING i watch McVeigh
- 3:51Speaker 1: talk About trent McDuffie talk About. STAFFORD i just have
- 3:56Speaker 1: a hard time buying this one because while there were
- 3:59Speaker 1: some parallels or some comparisons to you, Know Brock purty
- 4:05Speaker 1: and Be, well McVay is A shanahan, guy look at
- 4:07Speaker 1: who McVeigh in the style of. Offense he does. Not
- 4:11Speaker 1: he's much closer To Andy. Reid he wants a more
- 4:14Speaker 1: physically gifted, Quarterback and you, Go, john why would they take?
- 4:19Speaker 1: Him Because lesnian's Thinking sean mcvay's dabbled, before like COULD
- 4:23Speaker 1: i go To? Amazon we Know Matt stafford is max two,
- 4:27Speaker 1: years very good, chance this is last year playing in THE.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Nfl or are you Sure sean McVay is just sticking
- 4:33Speaker 1: this thing? Out so this to me felt like a
- 4:36Speaker 1: little bit Of we're never gonna be drafting this high.
- 4:38Speaker 1: AGAIN i like this. Player i'm pretty sure Less need
- 4:41Speaker 1: went To. Auburn but my big takeaway was, LIKE i
- 4:44Speaker 1: don't know If sean McVay is thrilled with. This he's
- 4:47Speaker 1: been begging For Kirk cousins at The biltmore The Mike
- 4:51Speaker 1: Vrabel Russini weekend a couple weeks ago For Kirk cousins
- 4:54Speaker 1: to sign with The rams a couple days, later signs
- 4:56Speaker 1: with The. Raiders a couple days. Ago When Jimmy garoppolo
- 5:00Speaker 1: is threatening to, Retire sean mcvayh said, tonight there's a
- 5:03Speaker 1: reason we're still trying to communicate With, jimmy and even he, said, like,
- 5:07Speaker 1: Yeah Ty simpson's gonna compete With Stetson, Bennett so, Listen
- 5:13Speaker 1: Dana orlowski calling him the number one quarterback doesn't look
- 5:16Speaker 1: as crazy when he goes pick. Thirteen Jay glazer had
- 5:19Speaker 1: mentioned earlier today that something crazy is gonna. HAPPEN i think.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Easily this is a team that the last two years
- 5:27Speaker 1: is a player two away from probably being like back
- 5:30Speaker 1: to Back Super bowl. Champs they are going to be
- 5:33Speaker 1: easily not only one of the betting, favorites the best
- 5:36Speaker 1: rosters in the, league they got one of the best.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Coaches this is a ready made team to. Win now
- 5:40Speaker 1: they had pick. Thirteen, NOW i, thought regardless who they
- 5:44Speaker 1: were gonna, pick you, know the. Guy it's gonna be
- 5:48Speaker 1: difficult for that just to be a plug and play
- 5:50Speaker 1: player on their, roster especially because you Know Ruben bain
- 5:54Speaker 1: was on the they weren't gonna take, him but they
- 5:55Speaker 1: already got defensive. Lineman they Got Jared. Verse, right if
- 5:58Speaker 1: they took a guy Like Ruben, bayin he would play.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Him but that was never an. Option it was wide.
- 6:03Speaker 1: RECEIVER i thought offensive, line AND i didn't think they
- 6:06Speaker 1: would take, quarterback but clearly they. Did LIKE i would
- 6:09Speaker 1: have been fine with taking The georgia offensive lineman and
- 6:11Speaker 1: almost red shirting him or if there's an injury forcing
- 6:13Speaker 1: him to, play like take a. LINEMAN i just don't
- 6:16Speaker 1: get this. PICK i really. Don't AND i Think sean
- 6:19Speaker 1: mcvay's body language is not thrilled, either because he's not
- 6:24Speaker 1: thinking five years from. Now that is not how coaches.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Think he's thinking week, two he's thinking week. Seven he's,
- 6:30Speaker 1: thinking how DO i Beat? Seattle how do we beat The?
- 6:32Speaker 1: Packers how do we beat The? Eagles how DO i
- 6:34Speaker 1: win THE? Nfc how DO i win THE Nfc. WEST
- 6:38Speaker 1: i don't like this pick at. All and When i'm saying,
- 6:41Speaker 1: This i'm not hating on LIKE i got nothing personal against.
- 6:44Speaker 1: This Ty simpson probably a great, kid BUT i just
- 6:48Speaker 1: can't take a one year starter who got banged. Up it's, like,
- 6:53Speaker 1: Well Johnny process is really What, okay look at some
- 6:56Speaker 1: of his. Comps you can give me the comps all you.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Want Like kirk and Brock, purty those guys were mid
- 7:02Speaker 1: to late round. Picks the the THE nfl draft is
- 7:06Speaker 1: an economic. Exercise it's why so many offensive tackles go
- 7:10Speaker 1: in the first. Round it's why so many pass rushers
- 7:13Speaker 1: go in the first round because it's you gotta overpay
- 7:16Speaker 1: a little bit because those guys aren't gonna be around
- 7:19Speaker 1: in a couple of. Rounds it's why you know ocean front,
- 7:22Speaker 1: property the super nice country, clubs they always cost to
- 7:27Speaker 1: three more than even you think it should. Cost that's offensive,
- 7:32Speaker 1: lineman that's defensive. Lineman it's my issue with The titans
- 7:35Speaker 1: In Carnel. Tate he's a really good, player and by all,
- 7:40Speaker 1: accounts he's like a great. Kid all The Ohio state,
- 7:43Speaker 1: guys the character on their guys from doing research talking
- 7:47Speaker 1: to friends in these meetings is. AWESOME i, Mean Sonny
- 7:50Speaker 1: styles And Caleb downs are like the type guys in
- 7:53Speaker 1: these meetings people LIKE i would want them to marry my,
- 7:56Speaker 1: Daughter Carnel, tait you Know Ameca Buk these guys. Yet
- 8:01Speaker 1: wide receivers sometimes you get some some wild, cards not
- 8:04Speaker 1: the case. Here but If i'm gonna take a guy
- 8:06Speaker 1: in the top, five it's, like If i'm gonna take
- 8:08Speaker 1: a guy top fifteen at, quarterback he better have The.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Yeah he might not Be mahomes Or Josh, allen but
- 8:14Speaker 1: DO i feel very confident he's gonna be a top
- 8:16Speaker 1: ten quarterback Because i've seen the last couple of, Years Mac,
- 8:19Speaker 1: Jones Kenny, Pickett, Like i'm not in the business of,
- 8:22Speaker 1: DRAFT i will take those. Guys pick seventy, five pick one,
- 8:25Speaker 1: hundred Big John well quarterback. Inflation well, Fine i'm just
- 8:28Speaker 1: not gonna draft those. Guys. Then and If i'm gonna
- 8:31Speaker 1: take a wide receiver really high in the, draft like really,
- 8:34Speaker 1: HIGH i gotta be pretty Confident i'm getting a top
- 8:39Speaker 1: two or three wide receiver one day at his. Position,
- 8:42Speaker 1: like If i'm gonna take a guy in the top,
- 8:44Speaker 1: five it's gotta Be Julio, Jones Calvin, Johnson it's It's
- 8:49Speaker 1: Jamar chase Aj, Green it's got to be a guy
- 8:52Speaker 1: for a for a decade. Long when he's on six
- 8:56Speaker 1: or seven of those, years he's gonna be one of
- 8:57Speaker 1: the best wide receivers at in the. League easy and to,
- 9:02Speaker 1: Me tate, like is he ever a top seven wide
- 9:05Speaker 1: receiver in the? League top ten wide? Receiver? Now If
- 9:08Speaker 1: sala And, borgonzi Who i'm rooting for AND i, like were,
- 9:12Speaker 1: here they'd, Go, listen we have a number one overall
- 9:15Speaker 1: pick at. Quarterback AND i don't know if you watched,
- 9:18Speaker 1: us because probably not a lot of people. Did we
- 9:21Speaker 1: sucked last. Year look at our offensive. Weaponry it is not.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Good so we just did whatever we had to do
- 9:28Speaker 1: to get him a guy and we probably would have
- 9:30Speaker 1: Taken Jeremiah. Love props to The. Cardinals that's a solid.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Pick they didn't outthink the room that they just went
- 9:36Speaker 1: with a guy that they knows one of the best
- 9:38Speaker 1: players in the. Draft they didn't feel comfortable with the
- 9:41Speaker 1: twenty year old. REES i get, It, Like i'm Glad Jeremiah.
- 9:45Speaker 1: LOVE i watched a lot OF Nfc west. Football he
- 9:48Speaker 1: makes them very. Watchable that's an easy. Pick they're, like,
- 9:51Speaker 1: well he just came off the. Board we would have
- 9:52Speaker 1: gladly taken, him Say, okay that's part of the. Draft
- 9:56Speaker 1: you gotta pivot because there were a lot of rumors
- 9:58Speaker 1: that The cardinals could Take love and people like this
- 10:01Speaker 1: is a smoke. SCREEN i was, like they clearly liked,
- 10:03Speaker 1: him WHICH i mean everyone liked, them but they did.
- 10:05Speaker 1: It they pulled the. Trigger awesome props to The. Cardinals
- 10:08Speaker 1: they Got love and. McBride and If Marvin Harrison junior
- 10:11Speaker 1: can ever become LIKE i got some offensive. Pieces wilson
- 10:13Speaker 1: the wide receivers is a good. Player jacoby probably needs
- 10:17Speaker 1: a little raise now or at least the money. Guaranteed
- 10:19Speaker 1: but to, me the tay, thing if you're The, titans
- 10:21Speaker 1: this is a wide. Receiver just look at the best
- 10:24Speaker 1: wide receivers in the. League jsn what was he late,
- 10:28Speaker 1: teens early, Twenties Poka nakua fifth. Round you, Know Justin
- 10:33Speaker 1: jefferson went in the. Twenties you get a lot of
- 10:36Speaker 1: guys that in you Know forever Aj, brown second round,
- 10:40Speaker 1: PICK Dk metcalf second round. Pick you know When deebo was,
- 10:42Speaker 1: good he was the second round. Pick you get Guys
- 10:44Speaker 1: DeVante adams second round. Pick you get a lot of
- 10:47Speaker 1: guys that go the, second the, third the fourth that
- 10:49Speaker 1: become really good. Players, Right it's a position where you
- 10:53Speaker 1: have so many wide receivers that you can find. Guys
- 10:57Speaker 1: this is not if you're looking for a starting left
- 10:59Speaker 1: tack you probably gotta draft him in the top thirty
- 11:02Speaker 1: or forty. Picks totally Understand Nico collins third, round like
- 11:08Speaker 1: it's the one position where you can get guys late
- 11:11Speaker 1: in the first and in the second round and they
- 11:12Speaker 1: could Become Pro Bowl All. STARS i have a hard
- 11:16Speaker 1: time Understanding Sonny, styles WHO i would say universally was
- 11:21Speaker 1: viewed in the league as a guy that has the
- 11:24Speaker 1: upside because this is draft not a great, one so
- 11:27Speaker 1: there's a lot of projection. Here but DO i project
- 11:30Speaker 1: you one? Day can you be one of the best
- 11:32Speaker 1: players at your? Position you would Say Jeremiah. Love, yes
- 11:38Speaker 1: you would Say Rvel. Reese he's only twenty years. Old
- 11:41Speaker 1: he has the potential to one day be A Pro bowl.
- 11:45Speaker 1: PLAYER i would say best case scenario for him all.
- 11:48Speaker 1: PRO i would Say Sonny styles for sure has the
- 11:52Speaker 1: upside to be An All pro. Player same thing with
- 11:56Speaker 1: The chiefs with, delay he has the upside to be
- 11:59Speaker 1: A Pro bowl. Player Is Cardinal tate Making Pro? Bowls
- 12:04Speaker 1: Now Cardinal tate can be a very productive, player a good.
- 12:06Speaker 1: PLAYER i just have to take a player up, there you,
- 12:10Speaker 1: know either the past Rusher reees who is a little
- 12:12Speaker 1: bit of a project young player hasn't played that. MUCH
- 12:15Speaker 1: i get the concern, there But sonny styles like this
- 12:18Speaker 1: guy's plug and, play let's Roll you've just been Around Fred.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Warner and then get the wide receiver at the end
- 12:24Speaker 1: of the first. Round, LIKE i just fundamentally disagree with
- 12:29Speaker 1: the tactic they took in terms of the order in
- 12:33Speaker 1: which they took the. Guys and, again this feels Like
- 12:36Speaker 1: i'm not trying to this is an, enormous awesome moment
- 12:39Speaker 1: for all these. Guys i'm not a hater Of tate's.
- 12:42Speaker 1: GAME i JUST i just couldn't take him at four.
- 12:45Speaker 1: OVERALL i couldn't do. It you, Know, Listen i'm not
- 12:49Speaker 1: the BIGGEST i think there's a lot of risk In Jordan.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Tyson but here's one THING i know about The. Saints
- 12:55Speaker 1: they have an offensive head. Coach they, have in my,
- 12:58Speaker 1: opinion one, of if not the best wide receiver coach
- 13:01Speaker 1: in the. League, LIKE i get it, right they wanted a.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Weapon they were gonna take a wide receiver there and
- 13:09Speaker 1: or a, corner and that's WHY i think The chiefs
- 13:11Speaker 1: jumped up. There BUT i don't, know LIKE i Don't
- 13:15Speaker 1: and this is where The, Giants, like would The giants
- 13:19Speaker 1: have Taken tate at? FIVE i doubt, It LIKE i
- 13:21Speaker 1: think they were taking people that can play in the,
- 13:24Speaker 1: trenches people that can rush the, passer an offensive, Lineman
- 13:28Speaker 1: like in a perfect, world would they have taken a
- 13:32Speaker 1: different position Beside reese on the defensive line slash outside. Linebacker,
- 13:37Speaker 1: yes they kind of got into a weird spot. Once you,
- 13:41Speaker 1: KNOW i thought they would Take sonny styles and they just. Leaned,
- 13:44Speaker 1: historically back WHEN i was with The, eagles one thing
- 13:47Speaker 1: The giants would do constantly, linemen pass, rushers pass, rushers defensive,
- 13:53Speaker 1: tackles hybrid Guys, Kiwanuka TUCK. Jpp it's like an organizational
- 13:59Speaker 1: philosophy that The ravens kind of subscribe to as. Well
- 14:03Speaker 1: so it's right Up harbaugh's. Alley and now you've Got
- 14:07Speaker 1: reese And Abduall carter for the. FUTURE i, mean you
- 14:11Speaker 1: got two guys who you, know in a couple of
- 14:13Speaker 1: years if this, works BECAUSE i would, imagine you, know
- 14:16Speaker 1: this is probably gonna Be burns his last, year and
- 14:18Speaker 1: that'll be like the equivalent of THE Dj moore, situation
- 14:21Speaker 1: where you get rid of him not because he's not,
- 14:23Speaker 1: good just because you want your young guys to. Shine
- 14:26Speaker 1: like the upside For reese and Abduall carter is you
- 14:30Speaker 1: have the best pass rushing duo in the league like.
- 14:33Speaker 1: That that's how physically gifted those two guys. Are we
- 14:43Speaker 1: talk a lot of football on the, show but THE
- 14:45Speaker 1: nba playoffs are. Here and here's the. Thing if you
- 14:49Speaker 1: want to bet On lebron's point, total if you want
- 14:52Speaker 1: to bet On jokic getting this typical triple, double if
- 14:56Speaker 1: you want to bet on some Of wemby's overs every single,
- 14:59Speaker 1: game may make your same game parlays very very easy to.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Do and if you're ever late to tip, off, Ever
- 15:06Speaker 1: Hard Rock bet has you cover because they let you
- 15:08Speaker 1: live bet all game. Long sign up today and double
- 15:13Speaker 1: your winnings on your first ten bets maximum fifty. Dollars that's,
- 15:17Speaker 1: right double your winnings on your first ten. Bets so
- 15:20Speaker 1: if you would have won a hundred bucks on your own,
- 15:22Speaker 1: bet now is two. Hundred how do you beat? That you.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Don't the welcome offer is just the Tip hard Rock
- 15:28Speaker 1: bet is new promos, Daily so open up the app
- 15:31Speaker 1: right now and see what promo you've got. Today download
- 15:35Speaker 1: the Hard Rock bet app and let the party get.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Started baby payable and bonus bets not a cash offer
- 15:41Speaker 1: offered By Seminal tribe Of. Florida In, florida offered By
- 15:44Speaker 1: seminal Hard Rock DIGITAL llc and all other. States you
- 15:48Speaker 1: must be twenty one plus and physically present In, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Jersey, Ohio,
- 15:55Speaker 1: tennessee And virginia to. Play terms and conditions. Apply concerned
- 15:59Speaker 1: about gambling In, florida call one eight three three play.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Wise In. Indiana if you are someone you know has
- 16:08Speaker 1: a gambling problem and wants, help call one eight hundred
- 16:12Speaker 1: and nine with. It gambling problem called one Hunter Gambler, Arizona, Colorado,
- 16:17Speaker 1: Illinois New, Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee. Virginia i've seen AND i
- 16:27Speaker 1: had some people and obviously the, uh the big Offensive,
- 16:31Speaker 1: lineman the back to, back the, uh the The islanders
- 16:36Speaker 1: for and Uh afanu AND i don't want to mess.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Up francis his. Name those. Guys those guys are just.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Swaggy there's something swaggy about having the layover you the big,
- 16:48Speaker 1: LIKE i don't. Know and he came up and they
- 16:50Speaker 1: asked him About Jackson dart and he was, like he's
- 16:53Speaker 1: saying he was fucking die for. Him there's something about
- 16:56Speaker 1: drafting an offensive. Lineman it just makes you feel pretty,
- 16:58Speaker 1: good Fo. FRANCIS i, mean those are just two good offensive. Linemen.
- 17:02Speaker 1: NOW i don't know if either one's ever gonna be
- 17:04Speaker 1: Like Jonathan ogden Or Trent williams or or you, Know Anthony,
- 17:10Speaker 1: munos but both those two offensive linemen are playing in
- 17:13Speaker 1: the league for a long. Time like those two guys
- 17:16Speaker 1: are just are just. Hosses and people, go, well why
- 17:19Speaker 1: would The chiefs trade a corner to then trade up
- 17:25Speaker 1: to get another, Corner and it's, like, you, guys sometimes
- 17:28Speaker 1: we Forget And i'm guilty of this, too because you're
- 17:31Speaker 1: in the heat of, it and it's just, football, football,
- 17:33Speaker 1: Football this is a. Business and And trent McDuffie is
- 17:38Speaker 1: a unreal slot. Corner you could argue he's one, of
- 17:42Speaker 1: if not the best slot corners in the. LEAGUE i
- 17:45Speaker 1: think they viewed him as a good outside, corner but
- 17:49Speaker 1: he's not a top five outside shut down. Corner and
- 17:55Speaker 1: but you had to pay him like. That The rams
- 17:58Speaker 1: gave him one hundred million dollars get, guaranteed one hundred
- 18:01Speaker 1: million dollars. Guaranteed and again the chiefs liked. HIM i
- 18:04Speaker 1: was Told colin this. Earlier. Andy they loved, him but
- 18:09Speaker 1: it was financially they had to make a tough. Decision
- 18:11Speaker 1: they were not comfortable giving him the contract The rams gave.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Him you, know the contract The rams gave, him and
- 18:18Speaker 1: that was his that was his going, rate like he.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Was other people were willing to give him that so
- 18:23Speaker 1: they could trade him to get a first round. Pick
- 18:25Speaker 1: so they Get, delaye who they view as more of
- 18:27Speaker 1: a true outside. Guy but now you got McDuffie making
- 18:33Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year with one hundred of it
- 18:35Speaker 1: guaranteed and one hundred and twenty million dollar. Contract, well
- 18:40Speaker 1: THE lsu corner went six. OVERALL i googled genty because
- 18:44Speaker 1: last year genty was a six overall. Pick his contract
- 18:47Speaker 1: was like thirty four million, Dollars so you're talking four,
- 18:50Speaker 1: years you, know on average eight and a half nine
- 18:55Speaker 1: million dollars a. Year so it's the it's it's a
- 18:58Speaker 1: twenty million dollar. Difference and in terms of guarantee you're
- 19:02Speaker 1: talking sixty five million dollar. Difference so if you get
- 19:05Speaker 1: a guy who becomes a starting corner and who Has
- 19:08Speaker 1: Pro bowl upside, outside that costs dramatically less than the other.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Guy like that's where the decisions come into. Play it's
- 19:20Speaker 1: why If reese is good this year and show signs
- 19:22Speaker 1: of life and hardball gets or not shines of life
- 19:25Speaker 1: because he's, YOUNG i, mean just shows signs of a
- 19:27Speaker 1: future like improvement and, upside And Abdual carter can just
- 19:31Speaker 1: show up to meetings on, time and those two guys are,
- 19:34Speaker 1: like holy, shit we got something. Here Brian burn's not
- 19:37Speaker 1: gonna be on the team next, year not Because Brian
- 19:39Speaker 1: burns isn't good right like Keve On, tibodeau like he's
- 19:42Speaker 1: he'll be gone by the end of the. Weekend But
- 19:44Speaker 1: burds is a good player right. Now like you couldn't
- 19:47Speaker 1: watch The giants last year and watch that guy come
- 19:49Speaker 1: around the. Edge he's a. Playmaker but like it's an economic.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Exercise you can only invest so much in some, positions
- 19:56Speaker 1: and when you get higher paid, quarterbacks you have to
- 19:58Speaker 1: make tough. Decisions you don't like The browns right, now
- 20:01Speaker 1: they kind of do whatever they want The jets right,
- 20:03Speaker 1: now they kind of do whatever they. Want some of these,
- 20:05Speaker 1: teams The, bills The, chiefs The. Ravens you have to
- 20:08Speaker 1: be economically kind of savvy because your, quarterback The cowboys
- 20:13Speaker 1: quarterbacks taking fifty sixty million dollars a. Year it makes
- 20:17Speaker 1: it a harder kind of puzzle to put. Together what
- 20:22Speaker 1: else WAS i fired up on a huge part of the.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Draft when you're a general, MANAGER i think two things
- 20:28Speaker 1: really jump. Out most people that RUN nfl teams gms,
- 20:32Speaker 1: ARE i would, say are not patient people by. Nature,
- 20:36Speaker 1: Right it's a Very football is a very aggressive. Sport
- 20:39Speaker 1: these are very aggressive alpha, males Looking Mike. Rabel the
- 20:45Speaker 1: league's full of. Them football's full Of it's a lot
- 20:47Speaker 1: of egos in all these. Rooms some of these STORIES
- 20:50Speaker 1: i heard of The combine about assistant coaches storming out
- 20:53Speaker 1: of meetings pissed off because their egos are bigger than
- 20:56Speaker 1: the coordinator and the head. Coach and you, know it's
- 20:58Speaker 1: like all these guys now or making big. Money even
- 21:01Speaker 1: if you're high. Paid offensive line coaches now make a
- 21:04Speaker 1: couple of million, Dollars so they're. Egos it's just it's
- 21:07Speaker 1: a lot of alpha in the, room but being In
- 21:10Speaker 1: philadelphia for a couple of years in the office THAT
- 21:13Speaker 1: i wasn't and watching how he how he is this
- 21:17Speaker 1: blend of like aggression but like intellectual, Superiority like he's
- 21:23Speaker 1: really really, smart but he's a really aggressive, guy but
- 21:26Speaker 1: he also has a ton of knowledge of what's going,
- 21:29Speaker 1: On like one of his great attributes is knowing a
- 21:33Speaker 1: lot of, people and how he's good bullshitter and he
- 21:37Speaker 1: could just accumulate a lot of. Information because when the draft,
- 21:40Speaker 1: comes when you see some of these trade, ups it's
- 21:44Speaker 1: like you're trading up over a guy because the guy you,
- 21:47Speaker 1: wanted you thought one of the teams ahead of you
- 21:49Speaker 1: were gonna. Pick and sometimes you're taking educated guesses and
- 21:53Speaker 1: sometimes you, know we were just talking about this before
- 21:57Speaker 1: we started the podcast years. Ago BECAUSE i respect The
- 22:01Speaker 1: cowboys and The. Eagles it's like it's one of the,
- 22:04Speaker 1: big you, know historic rivalries in THE nfl in The Bay.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Area like being around The, RAIDERS i always heard stories
- 22:11Speaker 1: Like Al davis would rather jump off a bridge than
- 22:14Speaker 1: do deals with like The chiefs and The, broncos like
- 22:17Speaker 1: he can't even, imagine WHICH i kind of, Understand like
- 22:20Speaker 1: you see The ravens and The steelers. Trade but Now
- 22:22Speaker 1: Jerry jones and his his group of Front eye BECAUSE
- 22:26Speaker 1: i don't Think Jerry jones like running the phones during the,
- 22:29Speaker 1: draft but like HIS, GM i forget his name off
- 22:31Speaker 1: the top of my, head and Like steven like they're
- 22:34Speaker 1: running point on these. Deals they are okay with doing
- 22:36Speaker 1: a deal With howie if the price is, right and
- 22:39Speaker 1: how he calls him up and, says, HEY i want
- 22:41Speaker 1: to come to your, spot and here's a couple of,
- 22:43Speaker 1: fours And jerry's, like, hey it's too good of a
- 22:46Speaker 1: deal to pass. Up, well when they came, up they
- 22:49Speaker 1: tried to get a hold of Makay. Lemon they couldn't
- 22:52Speaker 1: you know why he was on the phone with The Pittsburgh,
- 22:55Speaker 1: steelers because The Pittsburgh steelers had picked twenty, one knowing
- 22:59Speaker 1: that the Cowboy we're gonna take. Defense Rap sheet reported
- 23:02Speaker 1: this ON Nfl. Network they were just talking to Mkayle lemon, saying,
- 23:06Speaker 1: hey you're gonna be A Steeler and you start, thinking
- 23:09Speaker 1: LIKE Dk, Metcalf, pittman the tight ends McKayle, lemon like
- 23:15Speaker 1: they actually have some Of it's a. Firepower you Got
- 23:18Speaker 1: rogers coming, Back Will, Howard it's like, Okay, steelers and
- 23:22Speaker 1: all of a sudden his phone starts. BEEPING i don't
- 23:25Speaker 1: know exactly how it, happens but The eagles jumped him
- 23:28Speaker 1: and they took McKayle. Lemon, well why do you? Somehow
- 23:32Speaker 1: AND i was thinking this. Earlier IF i ran a,
- 23:36Speaker 1: team the information and the stuff we talk about in
- 23:41Speaker 1: the draft, room it's one thing to kind of like,
- 23:43Speaker 1: generic we like this guy or this guy's. Good like
- 23:46Speaker 1: we all agree most people are gonna Like Ruben bain
- 23:50Speaker 1: Or Caleb, downs but like specifically McCarthy, omar we love this.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Guy clearly that information gets out and how he uses
- 24:00Speaker 1: it to his advantage because if how he just were
- 24:03Speaker 1: to stick and pick the guy that he, wanted would
- 24:06Speaker 1: not have been there at twenty. Three but instead he
- 24:09Speaker 1: knows The steelers plan on taking the, guy runs struggles around,
- 24:13Speaker 1: them and lands With Kaye lemon on his. Team and
- 24:17Speaker 1: that's just information leaking and information. Gathering that's part of your.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Job and the other part of your job as a
- 24:24Speaker 1: general manager is sometimes you got to be. Patient, Right
- 24:30Speaker 1: sometimes it's really easy to get aggressive and move up for,
- 24:34Speaker 1: guys but sometimes just let the chaos around you kind
- 24:38Speaker 1: of take, shape let everyone else fight it, out and
- 24:41Speaker 1: then you're kind of just standing there at the, End you're,
- 24:43Speaker 1: like AM i gonna get one of the top two
- 24:45Speaker 1: or three players in this? Draft if you would have
- 24:48Speaker 1: told me That Reuben bain would have been on the
- 24:50Speaker 1: board For Jason light at pick fifteen and go To,
- 24:53Speaker 1: TAMPA i never would have believed. You i'm forty one years.
- 24:57Speaker 1: OLD i keep saying. Forty i'm actually forty. One it's
- 25:00Speaker 1: telling my wife it's, like Then i'll be forty. Two
- 25:01Speaker 1: i'm not that far away for forty. Five i've been
- 25:03Speaker 1: telling Everyone i'm forty for like eighteen. MONTHS i Think
- 25:06Speaker 1: i'm gonna continue that Till i'm like forty. Four it's
- 25:07Speaker 1: LIKE i have Forty i've been watching college football for
- 25:10Speaker 1: a long, time and the, good the great teams in
- 25:14Speaker 1: college football right in my, lifetime all The Pete CARROLL usc,
- 25:17Speaker 1: teams The Urban Meyer florida, teams The alabama, Teams Will,
- 25:22Speaker 1: sabin The georgia, teams like The Ohio state teams With
- 25:26Speaker 1: urban and Now Ryan. Day the elite players just jump
- 25:31Speaker 1: off the. Screen you can, watch you, know some of
- 25:34Speaker 1: Those florida teams and not see some of the guys
- 25:37Speaker 1: they had on, defense or you, Know Pete, Carroll Reggie
- 25:39Speaker 1: bush and just some of the great players that get.
- 25:42Speaker 1: DRAFTED I i've been watching college football a long. TIME
- 25:44Speaker 1: i feel Like Ruben bain is as good of a
- 25:47Speaker 1: college player AS i can. REMEMBER i, mean certified ass. Kicker,
- 25:52Speaker 1: HONESTLY i don't THINK i Think messidor is one of
- 25:54Speaker 1: the better number two pass Rushers i've. Seen in not,
- 25:57Speaker 1: shocking they were in The National. Championship here's WHAT i
- 26:01Speaker 1: feel pretty good, About Ruben bain and a Key. Messador
- 26:06Speaker 1: they are playing in THE nfl for a long. Time
- 26:08Speaker 1: they are going to be really really good. Players now
- 26:11Speaker 1: Do reese And sonny styles and some of these guys
- 26:14Speaker 1: that maybe have higher upside than they do as like individual.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Players i'll hear you on, That Jeremiah. LOVE i, Agree
- 26:23Speaker 1: BUT i have a hard time Seeing bain And messador
- 26:26Speaker 1: and where do they go to The chargers In Jim
- 26:29Speaker 1: harbaugh and The bucks And jason light just too well
- 26:32Speaker 1: run know what they're doing. FRANCHISES i don't think it's,
- 26:35Speaker 1: shocking and both of them benefited from just sitting, there
- 26:38Speaker 1: relaxing and letting random stuff happen in front of, LIKE
- 26:43Speaker 1: i bet Obviously Jason light knew The rams weren't going
- 26:46Speaker 1: to take or didn't know. THAT i, MEAN i don't
- 26:48Speaker 1: know if he knew they were gonna Take Tys, simpson
- 26:50Speaker 1: but he knew they weren't gonna Take Ruben. Bain but
- 26:52Speaker 1: youre telling me The dolphins Like Ruben bain just played
- 26:55Speaker 1: in your. Backyard he just played in your backyard and
- 27:00Speaker 1: look a four hundred and fifty pounds offensive. Lineman THEN
- 27:03Speaker 1: i Think Nick saban was saying ON tv, like, yeah
- 27:05Speaker 1: he's got some work ethic. Issues, well of course he.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Doesn't when you weigh three hundred and eighty three hundred
- 27:09Speaker 1: and ninety, pounds it's hard to. Work you ever put
- 27:12Speaker 1: on an extra ten to twenty, pounds you don't feel the.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Same you don't you ever slim? Down know how much
- 27:17Speaker 1: better you? Feel it's all, relative like did you Watch
- 27:20Speaker 1: shaq in two thousand and two or do you watch
- 27:23Speaker 1: them in two thousand and. Eight when you're carrying more,
- 27:25Speaker 1: weight it's harder to, operate and it's also you have
- 27:29Speaker 1: to work even harder when you're. Bigger it's harder on your,
- 27:31Speaker 1: joints it's harder on your. Feet my thing is on The,
- 27:36Speaker 1: dolphins And i've been very complimentary of their NEW, gm
- 27:40Speaker 1: their new. Coach they feel like high level guys they come,
- 27:43Speaker 1: from Especially John Eric. Sullivan THE gm comes from The.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Packers like The packers are pretty consistent in how they.
- 27:50Speaker 1: OPERATE i have a hard time over the last decade
- 27:55Speaker 1: plus seeing The packers Take. Procter YET i could see
- 28:00Speaker 1: The packers Take bain definitely messador.
- 28:03Speaker 2: LIKE i JUST i just don't see, It LIKE i
- 28:07Speaker 2: that's not their tight, pick and you're you're taking a
- 28:10Speaker 2: guy that struggles with the weight issues putting him in
- 28:13Speaker 2: this party fun kind of crazy. Town here's a little,
- 28:17Speaker 2: Risky LIKE i could Get, baine who's already lived in the,
- 28:20Speaker 2: area knows how.
- 28:21Speaker 1: To dominate and it's comfortable. OPERATING i, hell you could
- 28:26Speaker 1: have taken the the guard For Penn. STATE i hate.
- 28:31Speaker 1: That jerry's a good. Example Like jerry takes a lot
- 28:34Speaker 1: of shit because he's always saying crazy, stuff never shuts,
- 28:38Speaker 1: up so he talks a. Lot if you are not a,
- 28:42Speaker 1: coach that just kind OF i, mean most coaches beside Even.
- 28:46Speaker 1: VRABEL i, MEAN i Get rabel some. Credit just this
- 28:49Speaker 1: story's gotten so. Crazy he's kind of had to take
- 28:52Speaker 1: it head on and do multiple press conferences this. Week
- 28:56Speaker 1: he's admitted it without admitting. It it's not like he's
- 28:58Speaker 1: gone on record to say, like, Yeah i've slept together you,
- 29:01Speaker 1: know about seven years running, Now so, yeah you guys
- 29:05Speaker 1: got me right. Handed he's not saying, that but if
- 29:07Speaker 1: you watch, him he's essentially saying. That And i'm also,
- 29:13Speaker 1: AGAIN i can't relate to everyone's. RELATIONSHIP i say it
- 29:16Speaker 1: all the. TIME i just kind OF i don't judge
- 29:20Speaker 1: other people behind like you're sleeping with that. Person you,
- 29:24Speaker 1: guys figure it out about your personal. STUFF i just
- 29:27Speaker 1: can't imagine my wife were most people in my life's
- 29:31Speaker 1: wives after a situation that becomes this public that's pretty
- 29:36Speaker 1: clear been going on for a long, time be, like,
- 29:38Speaker 1: yeah just hop in the suburban and head to, Counseling, like,
- 29:42Speaker 1: uh my wife would be you can go to counseling
- 29:45Speaker 1: and you can pay for. It but, Uh i'm going you,
- 29:49Speaker 1: know she's talking about a loyal ride or. DIE i
- 29:52Speaker 1: mean that would not happen in my home or probably
- 29:55Speaker 1: many of your. Homes but what a shit show that has.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Been speaking of shit, show The, vikings they don't have
- 30:05Speaker 1: a general manager And Caleb, banks who is just a
- 30:10Speaker 1: monster defensive. Tackle now he's had some injury. Issues pretty risky.
- 30:15Speaker 1: PICK i mean that was a pretty didn't see that one.
- 30:20Speaker 1: COMING i think a lot of people in THE, nfl
- 30:23Speaker 1: people LIKE dj and, mcshay's that are really really you,
- 30:27Speaker 1: know LIKE i don't bug my friends as much like
- 30:30Speaker 1: On Kansas, city like who you guys gonna? Draft who
- 30:32Speaker 1: you guys canna? Draft LIKE i just text about other
- 30:34Speaker 1: stuff and then when the draft, comes then we start
- 30:36Speaker 1: picking your brain about. Stuff But i'm not a. REPORTER i,
- 30:39Speaker 1: mean don't get me. WRONG i get information THAT i
- 30:41Speaker 1: talk about on the show more about like bigger picture,
- 30:44Speaker 1: stuff But i'm not in the business of like who
- 30:46Speaker 1: are you gonna? Pick it's more like what do you
- 30:48Speaker 1: think about this? Guy what do you think about the?
- 30:49Speaker 1: Draft what do you think about the? Class more bigger picture.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Stories this was a guy THAT i had heard MORE
- 30:56Speaker 1: i don't, know late, one somewhere in the twos because
- 31:00Speaker 1: of the injury, issues but there is no disputing his. Talent,
- 31:03Speaker 1: sometimes to, me, philosophically when you take bigger players who
- 31:10Speaker 1: have either been banged up or struggled with weight, issues
- 31:13Speaker 1: those guys are always huge swing hit or. Misses and
- 31:16Speaker 1: then when you take and The chiefs and who was
- 31:22Speaker 1: the other team that did? It, oh The. Titans this's
- 31:24Speaker 1: my issue with The. Titans Kendrick falk From. Auburn Peter
- 31:27Speaker 1: woods And Kendrick Falk Keldrick falk were two guys that
- 31:32Speaker 1: were projected at the beginning of the year coming in
- 31:34Speaker 1: because they are extremely, talented kind of hybrid defensive. Lineman you,
- 31:39Speaker 1: Know Peter woods is probably more of a true inside.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Guy falk is a guy two hundred Sid we've probably
- 31:45Speaker 1: got a little more positional. Versatility But falk six five seventy,
- 31:49Speaker 1: Six woods six to two three, hundred but he's a good.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Athlete were guys considered like top ten pick, POTENTIALS i
- 31:57Speaker 1: mean top if all things went. WELL i, mean at
- 31:59Speaker 1: one point time people Thought clemson could win the national.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Championship Peter, WOODS i MEAN i remember hearing all his
- 32:04Speaker 1: name constantly In. August same thing With. FALK i, Like
- 32:07Speaker 1: auburn's pretty. Good these are two guys that are gonna
- 32:10Speaker 1: go in the single. Digits well they go at the
- 32:12Speaker 1: end of the first round because for whatever, reason don't
- 32:15Speaker 1: live Up like those guys are always risky. Picks, now
- 32:17Speaker 1: this is a draft that you gotta take some. SWINGS
- 32:20Speaker 1: i get. IT i don't have as big of an
- 32:22Speaker 1: issue with The chiefs because you have a very Established
- 32:28Speaker 1: hall of fame defensive coordinator who's been doing it in
- 32:30Speaker 1: that unit for a long, time and you have A
- 32:33Speaker 1: hall Of fame guy for him to sit next to
- 32:34Speaker 1: every day in the meetings In Chris. Jones SO i
- 32:37Speaker 1: think the thing with falk who you Have Jeffrey, simmons
- 32:40Speaker 1: who's a high level. Player BUT i just think there
- 32:42Speaker 1: are a lot of question marks. THERE i just would
- 32:44Speaker 1: have reversed. IT i just would have gone With reese
- 32:47Speaker 1: Or Sonny styles at four and then traded back. In you,
- 32:50Speaker 1: Know Omar cooper went one pick. AHEAD i mean the
- 32:52Speaker 1: crazy part is a lot of people talk about The
- 32:54Speaker 1: jets and they have been the butt of a lot
- 32:57Speaker 1: of people's, jokes and rightfully, SO i, MEAN i still
- 33:00Speaker 1: can't believe they didn't have an. Interception that's literally a
- 33:06Speaker 1: statistic that can never be. Broken it can be, matched
- 33:10Speaker 1: but it could never be. Exceeded it's not like one
- 33:12Speaker 1: year as a team had negative two, Interceptions like that's not.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Happening but to Get David, bailey who's just a plug and.
- 33:18Speaker 1: PLAY i don't know if he's ever gonna be you,
- 33:21Speaker 1: Know Lawrence, Taylor Reggie white coming off the, edge but
- 33:24Speaker 1: he should be a guy that competes to be a
- 33:26Speaker 1: double digitsack guy in the. League sadiq is a extremely
- 33:31Speaker 1: talented tight, end little. RISKY i think there was some
- 33:35Speaker 1: little underachievement last year At oregon when he became the,
- 33:38Speaker 1: guy but there is no disputing his physical. Talents so
- 33:42Speaker 1: you put him With Garrett, wilson With Priest, hall and
- 33:44Speaker 1: then you Get Omar, cooper, like that's a pretty talented first,
- 33:48Speaker 1: round AND i get their coaching staff has basically turned
- 33:54Speaker 1: over from year. ONE a lot of people think That
- 33:56Speaker 1: Aaron glenn is dead man walking this roster does this
- 33:59Speaker 1: is a good play If Gino smith is just more
- 34:02Speaker 1: serviceable like he was In. Seattle this is not a
- 34:05Speaker 1: team that's gonna be drafting number one. Overall now they're
- 34:08Speaker 1: not gonna make the, playoffs but it wouldn't shock me
- 34:11Speaker 1: if they're drafted seventh or, Eleventh, like this is not
- 34:14Speaker 1: a team that's gonna be that. Bad like relative if
- 34:18Speaker 1: you compare them to The, browns WHO i think everyone
- 34:20Speaker 1: just says all though them and The browns. SUCK i
- 34:23Speaker 1: think The jets have a chance to be much more
- 34:25Speaker 1: competitive than The. Browns caleb downs with The. Cowboys what
- 34:32Speaker 1: was some other stuff? Today one THING i appreciate About
- 34:34Speaker 1: bailey is when he walked out in the stage and
- 34:38Speaker 1: they interview and everyone's so. Excited he's, like what she
- 34:42Speaker 1: asked him something about The. Jets he's, like there's a
- 34:44Speaker 1: franchise that's trending. Up it's gotta be cool if you're
- 34:49Speaker 1: a fan and your team's been really shitty and then
- 34:51Speaker 1: you draft a guy and that, guy even if it's
- 34:54Speaker 1: it's just he's gonna say that no matter. What but it's,
- 34:57Speaker 1: like breeze a little confidence in to your. FRANCHISE i
- 35:01Speaker 1: also like delaying the corner when he walked out for The.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Chiefs it was a cockiness THAT i want to see
- 35:06Speaker 1: in a, corner AND i definitely saw. It THEN i
- 35:08Speaker 1: think THERE'S i didn't watch THE abc, broadcast which historically
- 35:14Speaker 1: can be a little, sappy you, know that's it was.
- 35:17Speaker 1: HARD i MEAN i. WAS i watched the first overall
- 35:19Speaker 1: pick With jack And maria And mendoza gets picked and
- 35:24Speaker 1: then they kind of do this thing on his mom
- 35:26Speaker 1: and he speaking about it's it's hard not to get
- 35:27Speaker 1: a little, emotional, like, man you, know she's in a,
- 35:30Speaker 1: wheelchair she's got A. Mss it's just, tough you. Know
- 35:33Speaker 1: and they clearly got a big family with a lot of,
- 35:36Speaker 1: kids and there's just a lot of pride that they
- 35:38Speaker 1: take in their, mother And fernando specifically takes and like
- 35:43Speaker 1: kind of lifting her up and JUST i mean honestly
- 35:46Speaker 1: making it about her a little bit and how important she's.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Been but When Jordan tyson got drafted and he's walking
- 35:51Speaker 1: out and he just kind of hits the ground in.
- 35:53Speaker 1: TEARS i, mean you talk about a guy that was
- 35:56Speaker 1: banged up this, year didn't. PLAY i mean a lot
- 35:59Speaker 1: of people have been questioned and where he's gonna. GO i,
- 36:01Speaker 1: MEAN i, thought, honestly he could drop a little bit
- 36:03Speaker 1: and to go ten to go to The, saints a
- 36:07Speaker 1: place that HAS i, mean there's a team that has
- 36:09Speaker 1: some offensive. Weapons but they got a. Lave they just
- 36:12Speaker 1: signed hn formally known As Travis etn that got still Got,
- 36:17Speaker 1: kamara the tight ends pretty. Solid they got an offensive head,
- 36:22Speaker 1: coach got an excellent wide receiver. Coach i'll tell you
- 36:25Speaker 1: right Now i'm picking The saints to win that. Division
- 36:27Speaker 1: i'm picking The New Orleans saints to win that. Division,
- 36:30Speaker 1: HONESTLY i DON'T i don't hate The panthers. EITHER i
- 36:32Speaker 1: just Think Tyler schuck might be better Than Bryce. Young
- 36:35Speaker 1: that's Why i'm leaning. There but uh, yeah The Jordan
- 36:40Speaker 1: tyson crying thing just felt very LIKE i can't even
- 36:43Speaker 1: imagine the emotions of walking out, there especially that stretch
- 36:46Speaker 1: they have him walked down now and the camera's following.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Them that just felt pretty genuine in these moments that
- 36:53Speaker 1: now everyone's so rich and there's something still pure about
- 36:57Speaker 1: this event when a guy gets, drafted his, family the
- 37:01Speaker 1: excitement those two big offensive, linemen the poly, guys the
- 37:05Speaker 1: excitement they have with their. Family you, know in this,
- 37:08Speaker 1: world especially in this, sport it's all about money and
- 37:11Speaker 1: how much you're getting paid and what's the nil and
- 37:13Speaker 1: how much how Much moneys will GET i get to get.
- 37:16Speaker 1: You it's like we got. It every fucking one's getting
- 37:18Speaker 1: rich as. Shit in these. Moments there's just kind of
- 37:21Speaker 1: a purity to, it that is it just it just
- 37:25Speaker 1: feels pretty. Cool and that's WHERE i have a big
- 37:28Speaker 1: picture issue with the. DRAFT i have a hard time
- 37:32Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, six sitting and watching an event of
- 37:36Speaker 1: the magnitude in which the draft is no different than
- 37:39Speaker 1: watching AN nba playoff game or AN nfl game or
- 37:42Speaker 1: a baseball, game and knowing that THE tv is fifteen
- 37:46Speaker 1: to twenty minutes, behind AND i understand, that, like just
- 37:51Speaker 1: turn off The internet and just enjoy THE. Tv that
- 37:55Speaker 1: is easy to, say and it would be much easier
- 37:59Speaker 1: to comprehend that mindset in two thousand and eight or
- 38:03Speaker 1: held twenty. Fifteen in twenty twenty, six WHEN i looked
- 38:07Speaker 1: at The internet AND i already knew The chiefs, pick
- 38:11Speaker 1: and they're still up three picks behind ON. Tv and
- 38:14Speaker 1: there was a MOMENT i think in the uh when
- 38:18Speaker 1: The giants picked The miami, tackle The internet was telling
- 38:23Speaker 1: Me Ty simpson was on the. Rams i'm not claiming
- 38:26Speaker 1: to have a fix to. This it's like tanking with THE.
- 38:28Speaker 1: NBA i got no clue how to fix. IT i
- 38:31Speaker 1: just know it needs to be. Fixed this is something
- 38:35Speaker 1: that is very difficult in a day and age when
- 38:37Speaker 1: a lot of your consumers sit on this, thing especially
- 38:41Speaker 1: during events when when Is twitter the most hot during
- 38:45Speaker 1: football games during THE nba, playoffs during The World, cup
- 38:50Speaker 1: during the, events because it's got a communal. Experience, well
- 38:54Speaker 1: when YOUR tv is trying to do this serious, broadcast
- 38:58Speaker 1: LIKE i wonder, who uh who The ravens are gonna
- 39:02Speaker 1: go with? Here WELL i knew seventeen minutes ago they
- 39:04Speaker 1: went with The guard out Of Penn. State, Again i'm
- 39:08Speaker 1: not acting Like i'm some genius and have some fix to.
- 39:11Speaker 1: THIS i just think that it's just. Off something is
- 39:16Speaker 1: not gonna work if this is the. Case and the
- 39:18Speaker 1: problem is is THE nfl because of the system and
- 39:25Speaker 1: the way these tips are. Picked is If i'm THE
- 39:28Speaker 1: rams AND i put In Ty, simpson WELL i type
- 39:31Speaker 1: it into the card OR i call the. GUY i.
- 39:34Speaker 1: GUESS i don't know if they still send people to
- 39:36Speaker 1: the given draft because it's all digital now and it
- 39:38Speaker 1: just goes right to the league office and then they post.
- 39:41Speaker 1: It and when they Post Ty simpson to THE, rams
- 39:46Speaker 1: that goes up for the entire league to. See and
- 39:50Speaker 1: that is way ahead of the. Television so then all the,
- 39:53Speaker 1: league you just you need to know one person on
- 39:56Speaker 1: one team in a draft, room they can tell you
- 39:58Speaker 1: who went where or, When and the timing is just not.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Good this is the only event that is as big
- 40:06Speaker 1: as it is in this day and, age that is
- 40:11Speaker 1: essentially on tape, delay that the information is behind on
- 40:14Speaker 1: television for a lot of people watching that can just
- 40:17Speaker 1: see the actual information on the. Internet AND i, tried
- 40:21Speaker 1: and how ALMOST i ended up doing it because me
- 40:24Speaker 1: And colin jumped on the podcast like pick fifteen or.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Sixteen but it was really difficult for me to be,
- 40:30Speaker 1: LIKE i just want to go old school turn. Off,
- 40:31Speaker 1: WELL i also want to know who's getting picked, where
- 40:34Speaker 1: when and, when and THE tv is just takes, forever
- 40:37Speaker 1: and let's face, it part of the television IS i
- 40:42Speaker 1: mean it's an event for the league and it's a cool.
- 40:44Speaker 1: EVENT i mean it's cadell several, times like every three
- 40:48Speaker 1: or four picks all of a sudden just walks out
- 40:51Speaker 1: there with like seven legends or something involving. Charity it's
- 40:56Speaker 1: like it's a big deal for the league to do this,
- 40:57Speaker 1: stuff but it also delays. Everything and you know who's
- 41:01Speaker 1: not doing any of. That all the draft, rooms they
- 41:04Speaker 1: don't give a. Shit they're just focused on the players
- 41:06Speaker 1: and the, picks and it's just kind of off. Kilter
- 41:16Speaker 1: life moves, fast, work family, friends weekend plans And somewhere in,
- 41:21Speaker 1: between you find the moments that really. Matter that's Why
- 41:25Speaker 1: toyota believes people are the. Destination it's not just about
- 41:29Speaker 1: where you're, headed it's about who's beside, you from early
- 41:32Speaker 1: mornings to late, nights from pack schedules to spontaneous. Adventures
- 41:37Speaker 1: The TOYOTA rab four is built for real, life whether
- 41:41Speaker 1: you're heading to a, game meeting friends for a watch,
- 41:43Speaker 1: party or chasing the next big. Moment it gives you
- 41:46Speaker 1: the space and comfort to enjoy the ride no matter
- 41:50Speaker 1: what the day. Brings when people are the, destination ordinary
- 41:54Speaker 1: drives become shared. Memories learn more At toyota dot com
- 41:59Speaker 1: and find the vehicle that fits your. People The browns
- 42:10Speaker 1: they had a good draft, Too fano And conception. OWN
- 42:15Speaker 1: i THINK i Saw Andrew berry call him the best punt.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Returner casey can. Fly The bears took The oregon safety
- 42:23Speaker 1: as a freak. Athlete they drafted or they Signed Kobe
- 42:26Speaker 1: bryant From, seattle so they've added some. Dbs they still
- 42:29Speaker 1: don't have a great pass. Rush The. Texans there's probably
- 42:33Speaker 1: no team more equipped to win The Super bowl if
- 42:36Speaker 1: their quarterback is just like thirteenth in the league and
- 42:40Speaker 1: the big question mark with The texans is offensive line
- 42:43Speaker 1: and quarterback. Play, well they just took The Georgia tech offensive.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Lineman coward compared him To Greg, zabel the dude The
- 42:51Speaker 1: seattle took last. Year The texans. Pick there's The niners
- 42:55Speaker 1: have the first pick in the second round, one, two, three, four,
- 42:59Speaker 1: five have the six pick. Tomorrow so If i'm The,
- 43:03Speaker 1: Texans i'd probably pick another offensive. Lineman like you don't
- 43:07Speaker 1: need anything on. Defense your defense is. Loaded you go
- 43:10Speaker 1: offensive lineman or a skill. Guy BUT i think The
- 43:14Speaker 1: texans if these two guys can be plug and play.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Players the offensive lineman they just, took and whoever they
- 43:19Speaker 1: take it pick thirty, eight they just got to CONVINCE.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Cj stroud just play under. Control we don't need you
- 43:27Speaker 1: to Be Josh allen what you were doing against The
- 43:30Speaker 1: patriots and The. Steelers let's just take a deep, breath
- 43:33Speaker 1: just play under. CONTROL i do think that The patriots
- 43:41Speaker 1: surely thought The chiefs were gonna take the Other utah
- 43:45Speaker 1: tackle and they jumped them to pick twenty, eight WHICH
- 43:48Speaker 1: i give The patriots credit for still running draft meetings
- 43:52Speaker 1: and having a plan of attack even with all the
- 43:55Speaker 1: chaos going. On in their building because there's no way around.
- 43:59Speaker 1: It The patriots feel a little chaotic right. Now AND
- 44:04Speaker 1: i don't know how he does. It and as long
- 44:07Speaker 1: as he goes to, counseling and a lot of people thought,
- 44:10Speaker 1: like you can't, go wait to Go monday to, Counseling, like,
- 44:12Speaker 1: guys do you understand that he would not be doing
- 44:16Speaker 1: this if he thought his family was going to completely fall.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Apart and the reason he has the equity and the
- 44:22Speaker 1: juice to do this is twofold. One he's clearly a
- 44:26Speaker 1: beloved figure in that. Organization he was one of the
- 44:29Speaker 1: prominent players slash personalities on Three Super. Bowls and then
- 44:35Speaker 1: in year one of his head coaching tenure for The,
- 44:40Speaker 1: patriots they immediately go to The Super bowl with a team,
- 44:44Speaker 1: that let's face, it is not that. Great their quarterback
- 44:48Speaker 1: was really, good their Corner Christian zalas is, good their
- 44:52Speaker 1: defense as a whole is well. Coached but, like are
- 44:56Speaker 1: they a top five roster in THE? Afc do they
- 44:59Speaker 1: have a better roster then there were teams in their own?
- 45:01Speaker 1: Division so to Think vrabel like this is probably embarrassing
- 45:08Speaker 1: for The craft family And robert And. Jonathan it's not
- 45:10Speaker 1: an ideal pain in the ass For Elliott wolfe as
- 45:13Speaker 1: coach isn't. There but, like this dude's got a lot
- 45:16Speaker 1: of juice in this. Building this is not like he's you,
- 45:21Speaker 1: know let's pick if this Happened Jeff haffley Or Aaron
- 45:26Speaker 1: glenn or someone with just no equity who had been
- 45:29Speaker 1: shitty or you, know If i'm trying to think of
- 45:34Speaker 1: a coach that's kind of hasn't been, there you, Know Todd,
- 45:40Speaker 1: munkin you, know if that happened to be like see,
- 45:44Speaker 1: It Mike vrabel is a made man in The New
- 45:49Speaker 1: England Patriot. Mob, now this situation in this story took
- 45:54Speaker 1: on a life of its, own and it's snowballs and
- 45:57Speaker 1: it keeps. Snowballing AND i think we are all prepared
- 46:01Speaker 1: for anything that's still. Coming but to think that this guy's, Job,
- 46:07Speaker 1: now if you told me, that like he wanted to
- 46:10Speaker 1: keep his wife so badly he, SAID i was. Prepared
- 46:13Speaker 1: when it, went, Uh Mike reese or someone The patriots
- 46:16Speaker 1: put out that he's gonna speak before the, DRAFT i was,
- 46:20Speaker 1: like you, know what wouldn't be shocking if he's, Like
- 46:23Speaker 1: i'm gonna take the next month. OFF i gotta figure
- 46:25Speaker 1: some shit. Out josh will run the. Team that, honestly
- 46:29Speaker 1: that is WHAT i kind of. Expected it's not exactly what.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Happened he just kind of came. OUT i didn't even
- 46:34Speaker 1: watch his whole, statement but from by all, accounts it
- 46:37Speaker 1: kind of reiterated what he said the other. Day but
- 46:41Speaker 1: he's not gonna get. Fired you, know as long as
- 46:43Speaker 1: he wants to coach the. Team guess What Robert craft
- 46:46Speaker 1: And Jonathan craft are gonna. Do they're gonna allow him
- 46:48Speaker 1: to coach. Team it's no different than some of these.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Players there are gonna be some of these players in
- 46:53Speaker 1: the first round who are gonna turn into, stars and
- 46:57Speaker 1: some of them are gonna be great. Guys. Easy Larry,
- 47:00Speaker 1: fitzgerald who's in my. Backyard Larry fitzgerald is probably the
- 47:04Speaker 1: easiest superstar IN nfl. History. Twofold he played for one
- 47:08Speaker 1: of the worst organizations of all, time never, complained and
- 47:11Speaker 1: he's like his character is like a twenty out of a.
- 47:14Speaker 1: Ten it's everything you'd want a. Superstar you don't even
- 47:18Speaker 1: think about wide, receiver just fucking, badass big game. Player
- 47:23Speaker 1: sometimes you Get Antonio, brown but you know What Antonio brown,
- 47:27Speaker 1: did became a pain of the, ass but he was
- 47:28Speaker 1: catching one hundred and forty balls a. Year you know
- 47:31Speaker 1: what The steelers did for a, while they dealt with.
- 47:33Speaker 1: It so Doctor river said this a long. Time as
- 47:36Speaker 1: long as you're better than your, problems you get to
- 47:39Speaker 1: keep going in pro. Sports and right, now this problem
- 47:42Speaker 1: For Mike, grabel his coaching ability on the field is
- 47:47Speaker 1: way bigger than just people on the internet posting pictures
- 47:51Speaker 1: of him at bars and casinos and. Kissing but this
- 47:56Speaker 1: gets back to like some Situations Zachariah, branch who's gonna
- 48:04Speaker 1: get drafted, tomorrow his situation that you got to get
- 48:08Speaker 1: context and it's the headline is not as bad as
- 48:12Speaker 1: once you start doing research you talk to. People is
- 48:14Speaker 1: like just a dude who had a moment of just being.
- 48:17Speaker 1: Cocky YET i don't know if he was drunk or,
- 48:19Speaker 1: not just kind of being an, idiot not a bad,
- 48:22Speaker 1: guy just being an. IDIOT i don't know if it
- 48:24Speaker 1: was an over zealous. Cop i'd, argue you just you
- 48:27Speaker 1: cannot get arrested no matter what a week before the.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Draft but this wasn't like he Was robinson dude and
- 48:35Speaker 1: then stole a. Car you, know this is not some
- 48:37Speaker 1: of these situations we've seen. Recently, honestly depending on who
- 48:41Speaker 1: you talk, to you, like The Ruben bain thing was
- 48:43Speaker 1: not a big issue for a lot of people in THE.
- 48:45Speaker 1: Nfl they had a lot more information than we. Did
- 48:49Speaker 1: and from Everyone i've talked, to you felt, very very
- 48:52Speaker 1: good about the guy's. Character and you, know, like, Listen.
- 48:57Speaker 1: Vrabel sometimes, coaches some coaches are like really high, character good.
- 49:02Speaker 1: Guys but he's, like this guy's just a good. Guy you.
- 49:05Speaker 1: KNOW i, Listen i've been around, him And i'm biased
- 49:08Speaker 1: on this, one but you're not gonna hear many people
- 49:10Speaker 1: say bad things About Andy, reid but some coaches are just, like,
- 49:14Speaker 1: yeah it's not a great. Guy LIKE i don't think
- 49:17Speaker 1: people like from a character, standpoint think that highly Of Lane.
- 49:21Speaker 1: KIFFEN i wouldn't say they Put Lane kiffin on The
- 49:24Speaker 1: mount rushmore of like great. Humans you. KNOW i Think
- 49:29Speaker 1: vrabel's kind of in that. World but why did The
- 49:32Speaker 1: Lane kiffin just get a hundred million dollars to go TO?
- 49:34Speaker 1: Lsu because he's an awesome. Coach so coaching a little like.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Playing as long as you are really, good people gotta
- 49:44Speaker 1: deal with. You some coaches can be. Cocky some coaches
- 49:46Speaker 1: can be, egotistical LIKE i don't think The Hardbob brothers
- 49:49Speaker 1: are the easiest to deal, with you, know some guys. Are,
- 49:53Speaker 1: LOOK i Think andy's pretty. Easy you, Know Kyle shanahan
- 49:57Speaker 1: is not. EASY i think going To John, Snider mike
- 50:01Speaker 1: McDonald about as low maintenance and easy as a guess
- 50:04Speaker 1: he's shocked by how low maintenance and Easy mike McDonald.
- 50:07Speaker 1: Is no different. Players sometimes you get a guy that just,
- 50:13Speaker 1: like this is really, easy this is, incredible this is.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Awesome and then you get some players who are paying your.
- 50:18Speaker 1: Ass but when they're really, good like you kind of
- 50:21Speaker 1: got to deal with. Them that's that's the whole draft
- 50:23Speaker 1: process of why some guys, fall some guys. Go some
- 50:27Speaker 1: guys like there were all these different, variables And Mike
- 50:31Speaker 1: vrabel is kind of like this situation is Just you're
- 50:36Speaker 1: kind of the butt of everyone's jokes because we all, know,
- 50:39Speaker 1: like you can't you can't lie to people like we're
- 50:43Speaker 1: all in, relationships even if we're, single we've been in
- 50:47Speaker 1: relationships a lot of you listening or dating married. Whatever
- 50:51Speaker 1: you can't show me those. Pictures we all know what it.
- 50:53Speaker 1: MEANS i didn't need the picture of them making out
- 50:56Speaker 1: in some bar to know that they were. BANGING i,
- 50:59Speaker 1: mean are we? Idiots so this gets back to you
- 51:04Speaker 1: just gotta take it on the, chin and this situation
- 51:07Speaker 1: doesn't quite become what it, becomes but now it's out
- 51:10Speaker 1: of control and who, knows, right there're gonna be, PEOPLE i,
- 51:15Speaker 1: said some people on the internet of like what type
- 51:17Speaker 1: of human being would send six year old? Pictures BECAUSE
- 51:21Speaker 1: i can imagine someone was just in the bar drinking and,
- 51:25Speaker 1: said oh, shit That's Mike vrabel making. Out you probably
- 51:28Speaker 1: think it was his. Wife you don't. Know most people
- 51:31Speaker 1: don't have Like Mike vrabel's wife off the top of
- 51:34Speaker 1: their head what she looks. Like and if you're not
- 51:36Speaker 1: some DIEHARD nfl, person you Don't you might not know
- 51:39Speaker 1: Who Diana orsini. Is especially six years. Ago she probably
- 51:41Speaker 1: has just getting drunk making out of his. Wife IF
- 51:45Speaker 1: i was just like selling insurance or a normal, person or,
- 51:47Speaker 1: hell even, ME i definitely might have snuck a. Picture
- 51:52Speaker 1: you're not gonna post it On twitter or. Anything she
- 51:54Speaker 1: just had it in your phone and then all of a,
- 51:57Speaker 1: sudden you're just some random guy or. Girl you realize
- 52:00Speaker 1: SHOULD i just CALL? Tms here The New York posts
- 52:02Speaker 1: and see IF i can get twenty five k for
- 52:04Speaker 1: this picture THAT i have WHEN i was randomly having
- 52:07Speaker 1: a couple Expresso martiniz and he was just sucking on
- 52:11Speaker 1: her lips fifteen feet away from, me WHICH i didn't
- 52:14Speaker 1: even know at the. Time i've just always told PEOPLE
- 52:16Speaker 1: i had this picture Of Mike rabel making out and
- 52:18Speaker 1: getting drunk at the, bar like a lot of us
- 52:20Speaker 1: have done over the course of our, lives typically with
- 52:23Speaker 1: someone who were in a relationship with and maybe they
- 52:24Speaker 1: were in a. RELATIONSHIP i don't. Know it kind of
- 52:26Speaker 1: feels that, way And i'm all for. Love you love
- 52:29Speaker 1: who you. Love ideally you love the person you're married.
- 52:33Speaker 1: With but that's clearly historically when you look around, society
- 52:38Speaker 1: that's not always a. Case still can't get over The,
- 52:42Speaker 1: RAMS i really. CAN'T i JUST i think that's. INSANE
- 52:47Speaker 1: i think if you told right Now seattle And San,
- 52:51Speaker 1: francisco they're happy that The rams used that pick on
- 52:55Speaker 1: the bat. Player they had the thirteenth overall pick and
- 52:59Speaker 1: they get a guy That's i'm not gonna help him
- 53:01Speaker 1: at all this. Year and If stafford went down Like
- 53:04Speaker 1: i'd want to See Ty simpson bring him on. Now
- 53:07Speaker 1: he is in a good. Spot obviously a good, coach
- 53:10Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent around, him good. Defense
- 53:12Speaker 1: so it's from A Ty simpsons, standpoint he's he should
- 53:17Speaker 1: be thanking his lucky. Stars think the big guy upstairs
- 53:22Speaker 1: when he goes to church On sunday like it's he
- 53:24Speaker 1: could have gone to a lot of shitty teams and
- 53:26Speaker 1: he went TO i, mean one of the best teams
- 53:29Speaker 1: in the league for the last seven or eight. Years
- 53:31Speaker 1: SO i mean it's pretty lucky for. Him you get
- 53:33Speaker 1: to go To, alabama to The rams when you're a
- 53:35Speaker 1: top fifteen. PICK i, mean most of these these quarterbacks
- 53:39Speaker 1: get drafted. HIGH i, mean Even. Fernando it's. CRAZY i
- 53:41Speaker 1: haven't even talked About fernando and we've been talking about
- 53:43Speaker 1: him for. Months, see he's not going to a great.
- 53:46Speaker 1: TEAM i, mean they could be, better but they're drafting
- 53:50Speaker 1: number one for a. Reason. Now it's gonna be a
- 53:51Speaker 1: lot of new rosters or i mean new players on
- 53:54Speaker 1: the roster this. Year obviously on defense they draft pick thirty.
- 53:59Speaker 1: SIX i mean The, raiders they can take, defense But
- 54:04Speaker 1: i'm trying to see any wide. Receivers Denzel boston tight,
- 54:08Speaker 1: End Eli Stowers vanderbilt. Guy he's not. Bad then you
- 54:12Speaker 1: get to Like Zachary Branch, Brazil Jeremy bernard The alabama.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Guy he's got a lot of people that like. Him
- 54:20Speaker 1: Jacob rodriguez the linebacker From Texas, tech who's. Incredible he's
- 54:25Speaker 1: your Classic like people kind of knock him because he's
- 54:27Speaker 1: not the greatest, athlete but you Watch Texas, tech Like
- 54:30Speaker 1: David bailey and their defensive line was. Awesome BUT i
- 54:33Speaker 1: mean it felt like this guy got thirty tackles a.
- 54:35Speaker 1: Game i've always LOVED. Cj allen From, georgia the. LINEBACKER
- 54:40Speaker 1: i thought he's been a badass for a long. Time
- 54:42Speaker 1: they're gonna be some pretty good players in the second. ROUND. Tj,
- 54:45Speaker 1: Parker Christian. Miller. Yeah SO i guess we'll end on
- 54:49Speaker 1: that one tonight podcast With colin podcast. Here we'll have
- 54:53Speaker 1: another podcast tomorrow is keep. Grinding this is the draft
- 54:56Speaker 1: and let's just let's just grind on through see who gets.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Drafted this tack Around, audiolse have a great, Day talk
- 55:01Speaker 1: to you. Soon the VOLUME mhm