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Under the Bubble · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Week four of Matt's season is here, and I gotta say, um,
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Speaker 1: the least impressive episode so far, Ben, how do you
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Speaker 1: feel about it? Except for you? Ben, you were the
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Speaker 1: only one. You were the only shining moment that my
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Speaker 1: eyes were glued to the TV for. You have to
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Speaker 1: say that because you're my co host. I do have
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Speaker 1: to say that. But it was so nice to see
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Speaker 1: your face. You looked great. Thank you asked, well, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I agree with you overall. Uh this before we get
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Speaker 1: into the breakdown in the rest of the episode. This time,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to describe this episode. Really, this season so
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Speaker 1: far overly dramatic, not enough stories worth following. Because every
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Speaker 1: story we start to pick up on and start to
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Speaker 1: hear and I start to get intrigued by, they disappear
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Speaker 1: for weeks, like Abigails, Like where's Abigail been? Like it's
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Speaker 1: it's just frustrating. So we're gonna break it down here
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Speaker 1: over the episode. It's gonna be a good podcast because
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of hot like hot headlines to
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Speaker 1: talk about. We also we'll talk about this episode a
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Speaker 1: little behind the scenes that I got to see. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But we also have a few friends that will be
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Speaker 1: joining us helping us break down this episode. Yes, that's right,
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Speaker 1: Katie Morton is here. Hey Katie, Hey guys, thank you.
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Speaker 1: What did you overall think of the episode? Uh? Gosh,
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Speaker 1: I do agree with Ben. I'm like, wait, I'm not following,
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, new people. I was
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Speaker 1: already not able to follow a story. Where's Abigail She's
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Speaker 1: been hiding? I agree with that. I did think the
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Speaker 1: episode was like it felt like it was going to
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Speaker 1: get good two times, Like I felt like I was
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Speaker 1: getting somewhere, and then all of a sudden put itself off. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're not wrong, I I would agree with you. Well,
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Speaker 1: we do have Katie Morton on to break down the
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Speaker 1: episode and catch up on her life. Also, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: keep Katie around, uh to talk about some of the
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Speaker 1: recent splits in Bachelor Nation. Uh. You know, Katie is
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Speaker 1: familiar with the public breakup coming from the show. Any
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Speaker 1: advice that she has for these couples. But before we do, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: we have a live virtual event, uh. After we announced
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Speaker 1: it last week, all a hundred promo codes that event
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Speaker 1: have been used, so those are gone. We got over
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Speaker 1: a hundred people coming, but there's still meet and greet
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Speaker 1: packages available, which will include a copy of my book
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Speaker 1: that releases on February second. It's a big deal to me.
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Speaker 1: So if you've listened to the podcast before, you've already
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Speaker 1: been supportive of Ashley and I, but would be really awesome,
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Speaker 1: really really really awesome if you go out in pre
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Speaker 1: order the book alone in plain sight, or if you
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Speaker 1: buy the meet and greek package you get a book.
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Speaker 1: It's a better deal all the way around. You gotta
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Speaker 1: visit www dot events dot looped live. That's l o
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Speaker 1: pe the live dot com slash almost famous. We'll put
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Speaker 1: this in the show notes so it's easy to click on.
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be more information coming out very soon about
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Speaker 1: this event, so tune in. But Ashley and I really
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Speaker 1: want to see you there. We definitely definitely do. Alright, Well, guys,
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Speaker 1: it should we start from the very beginning. Do you
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Speaker 1: like the way that this season is starting out with
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Speaker 1: like the juiciest clip up front and then they go
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Speaker 1: into the episode or do you think that it's like
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Speaker 1: a little bit hyper dramatic. Yes, I do believe it's
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Speaker 1: a bit hyper dramatic. It's like, then the episode just
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Speaker 1: like a little bit want long because I feel like
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Speaker 1: there should be a level raise and then there's not. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so there's like no climax to the drama because you
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Speaker 1: already see the best part up front. Yes, exactly, you know, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: It's I've never even thought about that, but it's true.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm used to watching a show
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Speaker 1: where the climatic part is at the very beginning, um,
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Speaker 1: because then it goes into like the peaceful music and
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Speaker 1: the peaceful scene of the scenery, and you're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: well the whole episode you're kind of anxious for that
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Speaker 1: one scene and you kind of I mean, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I miss than what's going on in front of
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Speaker 1: me the rest of the time. The other part is
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Speaker 1: we're usually uh like used to just the cliffhanger at
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Speaker 1: the end. Now we're kind of getting in the cliffhanger
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Speaker 1: at the beginning in the end, yeah, which is hard
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Speaker 1: to follow. I don't know, it's hard for me to follow.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's like when you used to write an
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Speaker 1: English paper and it made you do like who sentences
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Speaker 1: like the grabber and then the rest of your paper
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Speaker 1: you just kind of be yes. The scene that I'm
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Speaker 1: referring to is Victoria and Anna, who are now seemingly besties,
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Speaker 1: which is no surprise to me since Anna is gets
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Speaker 1: so high on the drama. They're sitting together and then
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Speaker 1: Anna says, I heard that she is an escort or
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Speaker 1: entertaining men for pay, and it was a great grab. Okay,
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Speaker 1: they got my attention. Um, But then you watch the
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Speaker 1: episode and you see that Anna is kind of like,
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Speaker 1: am I misinterpreting? Making this up out of her ass?
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Speaker 1: Like she's just pulling this, she just has okay, hold on.
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Speaker 1: So there was this girl, the girl what's her name?
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Speaker 1: The one that comes in is the model from Chicago.
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Speaker 1: She's one of the new arrivals. And what's her name?
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Speaker 1: Is it Brittany? Brittany? Yes? So first she walks in
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Speaker 1: and then Anna's like, oh, I'm like, I think she
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Speaker 1: looks familiar, Like I think I may know her. And
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, a few scenes later, she
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Speaker 1: like remembers that she heard rumors about her being an
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Speaker 1: escort in Chicago. This is like she just made it
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Speaker 1: up out of thin air. In my opinion. I mean,
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Speaker 1: and not only remember people were coming to her coming
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Speaker 1: to her. I know it's and it's also just like
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Speaker 1: it's kind of the it's not unexpected for the season though, right,
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Speaker 1: And I feel like every episode, and I said this
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Speaker 1: last week, but I feel like every episode has these
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Speaker 1: moments where in order for us to talk about on
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Speaker 1: this show, we're gonna have to be critical of the contestants,
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Speaker 1: which usually isn't how the seasons go. Usually like have
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Speaker 1: our favorites and are people that were not favorites of
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Speaker 1: But like, this kind of stuff just makes us be
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Speaker 1: critical of the Annas and Victoria's, which doesn't make it
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Speaker 1: fun to watch because it just makes me feel dirty
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Speaker 1: watching it. I don't know if you guys are that way,
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Speaker 1: but it's like it's so mean and it's so like
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Speaker 1: unneeded that it's not even enjoyable. Like I'm not intrigued
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Speaker 1: by the bullying. In fact, like I'm turned off by it,
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Speaker 1: and I would I pretty much just want to turn
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Speaker 1: off my TV. I totally agree. I think I said
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Speaker 1: this to a few people. I was like, there's sometimes
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Speaker 1: when people are highly obnoxious for TV purposes, and you know,
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Speaker 1: they just want to get their name out there, which
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Speaker 1: is what I thought Victoria was going to be. But
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Speaker 1: at this point, like to take uh ash, please vocab
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Speaker 1: on it, like they're getting high off of being mean,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's truly, it's disgusting to me because I
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Speaker 1: just I've never really seen girls be that. Like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: there was a scene where they were all in the room,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's some cuts and things, but at
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Speaker 1: one point when there is a reference to the bullying
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Speaker 1: and you see them like saying mean things and then
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Speaker 1: maniacally like laughing about it, it's really Yeah, it's just
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Speaker 1: really hurtful. It's like true to to the core, like me,
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Speaker 1: that's a mean girl. And we see that in the
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Speaker 1: second scene as well, when they are still trying to
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Speaker 1: get on Sarah and Katie's like, you guys, can you
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Speaker 1: please stop, Like She's gone, let's stop harping on this.
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Speaker 1: She seems to be the only one with any sort
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Speaker 1: of empathy right now. There's a few girls like Rachel
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Speaker 1: who definitely stay out of the drama and which I respect,
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Speaker 1: but Katie is the one being vocal about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it's Katie's really refreshing. Although I have to say,
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Speaker 1: like in the very beginning I did, I didn't wish
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Speaker 1: the best for Katie because I was like, no, not
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Speaker 1: another Katie. What like, no, you can't take my cant
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Speaker 1: you can't take my shot. I get it. I haven't
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Speaker 1: had another Ashley, and I'm glad about it. Yeah, exactly, Ashley.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't like it. I was like, no, Katie will
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Speaker 1: think she's gonna go far. I don't, now, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'm happy because Katie actually is taking the Katie name
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Speaker 1: and like taking it to a good standard. I'm loving
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Speaker 1: Katie this season. I feel like even when she approached
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna be that far, but
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Speaker 1: like taking it to the second scene when she approaches Matt,
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Speaker 1: it's not like a whiny approach. It's not a it's
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Speaker 1: not like a tattletale. Straight up, you've got to do
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Speaker 1: this because the stuff that's going on in there is wrong,
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Speaker 1: and I expect you to do this pretty much well.
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Speaker 1: And you know, the thing is, the mean part of
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Speaker 1: this isn't even the fact that they're claiming that she
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Speaker 1: is a sex worker. Like you know, in in this
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Speaker 1: day and age, like I think we've all placed labels
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Speaker 1: on people, and that that part isn't even the mean part, right.
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Speaker 1: The mean part is they're making up rumors in general
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Speaker 1: about contestants, like let's not even criticize like what they're
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Speaker 1: saying she does for a living, which is her business,
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Speaker 1: and that like none of us have a place in
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Speaker 1: saying if it's mean or not or wrong or not
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Speaker 1: what is wrong here? And I think this is it
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Speaker 1: is like they're just making up rumors about people, labeling
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Speaker 1: people and trying to shame people for stuff that like
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Speaker 1: they might not even have any part in. They've done
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Speaker 1: it since the beginning. And I mean here and and
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Speaker 1: so I gotta put myself in matt shoes, so Matt siny.
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Speaker 1: They're not seeing any of this happened. Everybody always asked,
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Speaker 1: how can you keep Victoria a round? He doesn't know
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Speaker 1: any of this is going on. It's just now I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna start coming to the surface. He's gonna start learning
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Speaker 1: about it. But when this starts happening and he starts
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Speaker 1: being told about this stuff, you know how confused he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be because he's gonna be hearing lies, manipulation, bullying,
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Speaker 1: and he's got at the process at all. If I
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Speaker 1: would saying, I would just say I'm cutting it. Who's
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Speaker 1: been a part of this? Who hasn't? Katie, you're my
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Speaker 1: voice of reason. Tell me who should go and who
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Speaker 1: should stay, because she's the only one at this point
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Speaker 1: that's standing up for the other women. And it is
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Speaker 1: so refreshing to see because, like you said, she's not
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Speaker 1: doing it as a look at me, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be the savior. She's doing it as a like, can
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Speaker 1: you just stop? Because this is exhausting, Like it's not
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Speaker 1: fun to live in. Yeah, And how great was it
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Speaker 1: when she did sit down with Victoria towards the beginning
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Speaker 1: of the episode and Victoria's like demanding an apology and
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Speaker 1: she's like, you're I'm not going to apologize to you.
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Speaker 1: And then Victoria said something that made me actually laugh
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Speaker 1: out loud. She goes if she says, she goes, if
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Speaker 1: being mean, if me name calling is expressing myself, that
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Speaker 1: I'm fine with name calling. She's name calling is a
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Speaker 1: way of expressing myself. Oh my lord. I literally was like,
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Speaker 1: that's so cringe. That's not that's not the way to
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Speaker 1: hate that rolls on social media field. They're like, telling
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Speaker 1: is my my form of self expression like what the
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Speaker 1: hell people think that way? That's terrifying. It was wacky.
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Speaker 1: And then Victorious like you know, basically like threatening her
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Speaker 1: and saying, if you try to shut me down, um,
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Speaker 1: like I probably wouldn't do that, And it just I
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Speaker 1: love the way that Katie really did put Victoria in
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Speaker 1: her place in that conversation, to the point that Victoria
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Speaker 1: didn't have comebacks at moments she almost looked like she
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Speaker 1: was going to cry in my opinion, like I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I feel like Victoria is so uncomfortable in this moment
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Speaker 1: because she usually doesn't have people stand up to her
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Speaker 1: that she looks like she's about to crack. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: was amazing. So meanwhile, while they were having that conversation,
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Speaker 1: the other girls were on the first group day of
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Speaker 1: the episode, which was extremely uneventful. There was just a
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Speaker 1: nighttime portion. Thinks some stuff was cut out there. Um,
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Speaker 1: Chelsea gets the rose. And I did like the conversation
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Speaker 1: that he had with Chelsea. She definitely seemed deserving of
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Speaker 1: the rose. For me, she's talking about her hair and
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Speaker 1: the meeting behind that. Like, I really liked that conversation
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Speaker 1: because it is very relatable for me as well. And
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Speaker 1: I felt like that was really real. I've actually never
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Speaker 1: seen anyone have that particular conversation on any of these shows,
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Speaker 1: which is so it's so refreshing, M just because a
12:35
Speaker 1: lot of people struggle with that. I think I actually
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Speaker 1: recently just posted about hair and we hold so much
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Speaker 1: of our identity and our hair. Ah, that's it was
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Speaker 1: nice to have that conversation. So I totally think she
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Speaker 1: was deserving of the rose. I didn't want it for
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Speaker 1: anybody else. M. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean it is.
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Speaker 1: It's always in this season We've had a couple of
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Speaker 1: notatious season we had a few, and every season we
12:58
Speaker 1: have a few, but like those are the conversation is
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Speaker 1: where I watch this and I learned and and I
13:02
Speaker 1: don't know, like maybe maybe I'm not the kind of
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Speaker 1: fan that watches the show, but the conversation with Chelsea
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Speaker 1: was so much more interesting and so much more engaging
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Speaker 1: for me as a viewer than any of the stuff
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Speaker 1: that was happening before this on the episode with the
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Speaker 1: name calling and the bowling, Like, I don't I could
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Speaker 1: have skipped over all that and started with Chelsea and
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Speaker 1: been super happy with this episode. Ben, you took the
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Speaker 1: words out of my mouth. I was just gonna say
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Speaker 1: that was the most engaging part of the episode for me.
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Speaker 1: It was when are we going to see Chelsea again?
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Speaker 1: As my question? Good point, it's a good question, we
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Speaker 1: I mean, because we haven't so far this season, and
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Speaker 1: we have these stories that we love to hear, right,
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Speaker 1: we have the Breeze, we have the Abigails, we have
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Speaker 1: the Rachel's that have like came and gone at times. Uh,
13:48
Speaker 1: and now we have the Chelseas. I mean, we have
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Speaker 1: this Maggie girl who's beautiful, who everybody loves, and we're like,
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Speaker 1: when are we going to see these people? Because right
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Speaker 1: now we don't see them and we're getting pretty far
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Speaker 1: along in this season, Like I was thinking this would
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Speaker 1: be the week that we started to switch away from
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Speaker 1: drama more into the love and in the opposite way
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Speaker 1: because of the new girls. Yeah, and I have to say,
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Speaker 1: but it's so far, like the drama has been entertaining
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Speaker 1: to me. It's been fun, and I actually thought it
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Speaker 1: was gonna be fun this week again for the audience
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Speaker 1: to see these new girls come in and to see
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Speaker 1: like their reactions. But I guess, like I just got
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Speaker 1: really annoyed with the fact that the girls ended up
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Speaker 1: blaming the girls coming in as being the problem. It's like, no, like,
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Speaker 1: we don't the girls didn't decide to come in this
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Speaker 1: at this point, like this is a show, Like this
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Speaker 1: is a show decision to bring the girls in at
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Speaker 1: this point. You can get mad at the girls for
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Speaker 1: coming in. It's only they were like, it's time to
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Speaker 1: leave my quarantine room now. Well, actually, question for you,
14:52
Speaker 1: because you've been there on set, do you think like
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Speaker 1: when did these girls come to the show. Were they
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Speaker 1: quarantining the whole time? Have they been in a room?
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Speaker 1: Did they come a week early? Like do you have
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Speaker 1: any idea? I don't know. I was thinking about it
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Speaker 1: when Victoria said you guys were alternates and then you
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Speaker 1: just stuck around. How does it feel to be an alternate?
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Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is there are always
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Speaker 1: alternates that stay that week and you don't know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. We need to get an alternate on here,
15:23
Speaker 1: because right because apparently these people do the quarantine and
15:29
Speaker 1: as you guys know because we talked about it many times,
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Speaker 1: you're basically quarantine, even if COVID is not a thing.
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Speaker 1: Um for a couple of days before filming, so she said, like,
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Speaker 1: you guys alternates, And I don't think that they were.
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Speaker 1: I think that they were probably sent in a week
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Speaker 1: or so into filming and then they quarantined for that
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Speaker 1: week and then they came in. But I mean, I
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Speaker 1: guess it's a possibility that they've been around that long,
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Speaker 1: but that would be horrendous. I feel like they almost
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Speaker 1: didn't like Paradise style. I don't know if Paradise pared.
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Speaker 1: I saw where they were like bringing them, bring in
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Speaker 1: the dancing lobsters, you know, like bringing the new girls
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Speaker 1: from Paradise because this is the kind of Paradise trauma
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Speaker 1: we need in the new season. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the way, let's talk about the entrances
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Speaker 1: for a second, the new entrances. I did not like
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Speaker 1: the way that Britney came in and kissed him right
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Speaker 1: off the bat. And I don't think that he liked
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Speaker 1: that either. Yeah, but didn't that happen on his first
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Speaker 1: night with all the other girls, and it kind of
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Speaker 1: seemed like he liked it, Like on the first night
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Speaker 1: with the other girls, somebody did that and he wasn't
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Speaker 1: against it, right, Yeah, But I think now when he's like, Oh,
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Speaker 1: I have other relationships and I have actual feelings for
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Speaker 1: girls back at the house that I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: want this, like this is an all fun and games,
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Speaker 1: like we're not on equal levels right now. I felt
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Speaker 1: the vibe that he didn't like it, like he might
16:45
Speaker 1: have liked it earlier. Yeah, I agree, I feel like
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Speaker 1: it might have been cool earlier. But I also feel
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Speaker 1: like she gave off like that really confident vibe that
16:54
Speaker 1: might have been like her vibe to me was the
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Speaker 1: turnoff part. But like I feel like there's a way
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Speaker 1: to do it, and there's a way not too and
17:03
Speaker 1: I feel like it almost like wasn't clicking well. And
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Speaker 1: also like Matt is at this point super thrown off,
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Speaker 1: so like you know, and maybe shouldn't really it was
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Speaker 1: just like yeah, like I mean, his whole world has
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Speaker 1: been switched upside down. He's already having trouble with this thing.
17:20
Speaker 1: You're already starting to see Matt like start to get
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Speaker 1: emotional and start to have a really hard time, and
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he's told in a matter
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Speaker 1: of ten minutes, there's more girls showing up and he's
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Speaker 1: probably like super shocked, which isn't Britney's fault, Like it's
17:34
Speaker 1: not her problem that he's shocked, but it's also like
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Speaker 1: just the being aware of the situation going, Matt, I
17:41
Speaker 1: know this is probably weird for you, So like let's
17:44
Speaker 1: just ease into this together, like that's the way to
17:47
Speaker 1: do it. But like by making it even more hard
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Speaker 1: on him, it wasn't a great move. I don't even
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Speaker 1: think he really wanted new girls. He seems pretty happy
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Speaker 1: in his decision. Harder than it already was was a
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Speaker 1: little bit much, except for yeah, obviously I feel like
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Speaker 1: he likes one of the new calls. So yeah, anyway,
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Speaker 1: right Michelle, I would say that, like after meeting Michelle
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Speaker 1: and going on the date with Michelle, he's actually really
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Speaker 1: happy she showed up. And I'm gonna put her really
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Speaker 1: far in my my list of who I think is
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Speaker 1: going to get far. I think she's gonna be at
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Speaker 1: least top five. It's interesting. Well, I know the Michelle
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Speaker 1: date comes later in the episode, So hey, how about this,
18:28
Speaker 1: let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna
18:30
Speaker 1: talk about Michelle. We're gonna talk about the group dates,
18:32
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about these new girls coming in,
18:34
Speaker 1: but before we do, we gotta take a little breather.
18:37
Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast. Okay, let's some introduce
18:51
Speaker 1: the girl. The five girls that came out. So it
18:53
Speaker 1: was Brittany, the one who kissed him, the model from Chicago.
18:55
Speaker 1: Then there was Michelle, she's a teacher from Minnesota. There's Ryan,
19:00
Speaker 1: she is a dancer and choreographer from Brooklyn, Kimberly who
19:04
Speaker 1: was an ICU nurse, um from Los Angeles. And Catalina
19:09
Speaker 1: and she's a former Miss Puerto Rico US Universe. So
19:15
Speaker 1: who sticks around? Brittany, Michelle, Catalina, Did Ryan stick around? Yeah?
19:21
Speaker 1: Ryan stick around? Okay, okay, so um none of them
19:27
Speaker 1: made So I think that the two girls that are
19:29
Speaker 1: really going to stick around in the storyline is going
19:32
Speaker 1: to be Brittany and Michelle. You know who was a
19:35
Speaker 1: shocker for me at the end of at the at
19:38
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony. Who got eliminated was Kayla. We both
19:43
Speaker 1: was gonna get far. Kayla had you know, the entrance
19:46
Speaker 1: with the truck in the back, the back seat of
19:49
Speaker 1: the truck. She's had a lot of screen time early on,
19:52
Speaker 1: and she was gone. I mean, I think Katie, I
19:57
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this. But I know, actually,
20:00
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this, we thought Kayla was going
20:02
Speaker 1: to go really far, Like again, what happened there? That's
20:06
Speaker 1: my big question, Like why don't we know what happened
20:09
Speaker 1: to Kayla because all of a sudden she's at the peak,
20:11
Speaker 1: were like, she's one of our favorites, and then she's yeah,
20:17
Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with the inconsistency of the storylines,
20:22
Speaker 1: Like it's just exactly what you said at the beginning,
20:26
Speaker 1: over and over and over. We're seeing glimpses of people,
20:29
Speaker 1: which is why I'm so confused as to why they
20:31
Speaker 1: brought in more girls, because it's like we can't get
20:34
Speaker 1: the edits enough to get attached to one. I thought
20:37
Speaker 1: I'd be really attached to Abigail and her second I
20:41
Speaker 1: forgot she said like every single was like, oh, shoot,
20:45
Speaker 1: you're still here. I really liked you in the beginning.
20:48
Speaker 1: I was so excited. It's like, we need more days,
20:53
Speaker 1: we need more days of footage because too much is
20:56
Speaker 1: happening apparently over there for them to give us the
20:59
Speaker 1: good hours earth of conversations. Yeah, I'm with you, all right. Well,
21:04
Speaker 1: now we move on to Ben's group date Ben, you
21:09
Speaker 1: lead the the Love in Fall Obstacle Course, Fall in Love,
21:18
Speaker 1: Fall in Love Obstacle Course. Um. We didn't get to
21:22
Speaker 1: know much about the girls through this game, you know,
21:26
Speaker 1: it's one of those activities that you don't really get
21:29
Speaker 1: to know a lot about their personality. Did you get
21:31
Speaker 1: to learn about their personalities while being there through this game? Uh?
21:38
Speaker 1: Well I got to know about them more from talking
21:40
Speaker 1: to Matt. Uh. And so my sit now with Matt
21:43
Speaker 1: was where I really got to hear I mean we
21:44
Speaker 1: were together for a long time uh that day and
21:48
Speaker 1: uh and chatted through like I think we went through
21:50
Speaker 1: every girl that was still left, talked about the girls
21:53
Speaker 1: that came on, like how would we navigate that? It
21:55
Speaker 1: was a great like just time with him. Um my hope,
21:58
Speaker 1: my like, my hope during that conversation was to try
22:01
Speaker 1: to get myself to a place where I could be
22:04
Speaker 1: so normal that he would feel normal. So we could
22:06
Speaker 1: just chat and like catch up a bit, because I mean,
22:08
Speaker 1: you I knew a lot of it wouldn't be shown,
22:10
Speaker 1: and so it's like let's just hang out where where
22:12
Speaker 1: you're at? How are you doing? So I got to
22:14
Speaker 1: hear about a lot of the girls. Um. I got
22:16
Speaker 1: to also hear about Sarah kind of going home and
22:18
Speaker 1: how hard that was for him. And then we did
22:20
Speaker 1: the group day UH and I got to see their
22:23
Speaker 1: personalities a little bit. But here was the problem. It
22:26
Speaker 1: was a distant group day. It was chaotic uh and
22:29
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cheating that went on, like they
22:32
Speaker 1: were they were like stations being skipped, things being skipped,
22:35
Speaker 1: and it was so many girls that it was hard
22:37
Speaker 1: to watch and figure out. I will say that the
22:41
Speaker 1: best personality shined, like the Abigails really shine, because she
22:45
Speaker 1: was kind and courteous and like, you know, when I
22:48
Speaker 1: was like talking and explained the date, she was like, oh,
22:51
Speaker 1: that sounds like awesome and like making me feel better
22:54
Speaker 1: about it. The other one is Maggie. I mean that's
22:56
Speaker 1: probably what I'm a Maggie fan is because you know,
22:58
Speaker 1: she gets stuck in this pond and a pumpkin and
23:02
Speaker 1: everybody's moving on to the race without her, and she's
23:05
Speaker 1: just giggling and laughing and like trying. She's not giving up,
23:09
Speaker 1: but she just can't figure it out. And like, to me,
23:11
Speaker 1: that was just like a really sweet uh like thing
23:15
Speaker 1: for her to be doing because I could tell them.
23:17
Speaker 1: Matt thought it was funny, but I also found it
23:19
Speaker 1: like endearing. That's interesting then, because I know that you
23:22
Speaker 1: have been talking about Abigail and Maggie a lot over
23:25
Speaker 1: the past couple episodes, So that's probably branching back from well,
23:29
Speaker 1: not just the good stuff that we see on TV,
23:31
Speaker 1: but just because you felt like connected to them in
23:33
Speaker 1: real life, as I felt connected to Rachel in real life.
23:36
Speaker 1: And I wonder if our vibes from them in real
23:39
Speaker 1: life will transfer transfer thank you. Yeah, I mean I
23:44
Speaker 1: think so. I hope so, like I hope because these
23:50
Speaker 1: girls are really nice to me, right, I'm a newcomer.
23:52
Speaker 1: Nobody wants me there, like they want to see Matt,
23:54
Speaker 1: they love seeing Harrison, and like I'm nervous I show up.
23:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell talk him through the date and whatever.
24:00
Speaker 1: And like those girls just stood out as being super sweet. No,
24:04
Speaker 1: none of them were like mean to me directly, but
24:07
Speaker 1: like some were harder to like keep on track, like
24:10
Speaker 1: and not keep cheating and skipping events because that's just
24:13
Speaker 1: frustrating because here I am trying to get this thing
24:15
Speaker 1: to be a fun date and when people start cheating,
24:18
Speaker 1: it just gets too chaotic. I got frustrated. Um and
24:21
Speaker 1: so those girls like they were just nice and they
24:23
Speaker 1: that stood out to me who was cheating? I'm just
24:27
Speaker 1: who was cheating? I feel like, I mean, I feel
24:30
Speaker 1: like all of them were. I know Victoria was. We
24:32
Speaker 1: knew Anna was because she said I stole Burtney's. Yeah,
24:35
Speaker 1: so like yeah, so like you know, they they're admitting
24:41
Speaker 1: to it. Like everybody felt like they were cheating. Um
24:45
Speaker 1: and and it was like a big pile on. But
24:48
Speaker 1: the uh, the the one that like was very clear
24:51
Speaker 1: as Victorians, Like I couldn't keep I mean at that point,
24:53
Speaker 1: I like looked around me afterwards, I was like, what's
24:55
Speaker 1: up with that? Like she just like didn't want to
24:57
Speaker 1: do anything I asked, like I was trying, and it
25:00
Speaker 1: was just so hard to keep her on track. Okay,
25:03
Speaker 1: remember how you I told you about Victoria. So you
25:08
Speaker 1: guys Ben and I you asked us a couple of
25:10
Speaker 1: months ago when the last time we actually saw each
25:12
Speaker 1: other was and we had to lie. Um. We actually
25:16
Speaker 1: saw each other over at Emicole and he got there
25:18
Speaker 1: like a day or two before I left. I brought
25:21
Speaker 1: I brought him whiskey because I was out of quarantine.
25:24
Speaker 1: He was it Um and we also talked about the girls.
25:31
Speaker 1: And when I said, man, there's this crazy girl named
25:34
Speaker 1: Victoria who like started with me, he was like, you know,
25:39
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, man, like I'll watch out for her,
25:40
Speaker 1: and she ends up being on your date, Ben, And
25:44
Speaker 1: then when you called me afterward and you're like, I
25:46
Speaker 1: met that Victoria girl. She's wild. I don't know how
25:50
Speaker 1: she could be real. Why did you say that? You
25:53
Speaker 1: you couldn't believe she was real? As as I also felt, well,
25:57
Speaker 1: one of them was because you had told me like, hey,
26:00
Speaker 1: this girl was like was so hard on me, and
26:02
Speaker 1: so I kind of had my eye out for um.
26:05
Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, it was just like the part
26:07
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, guys, I'm trying here to put
26:09
Speaker 1: on a date for you all. I'm gonna try my best,
26:12
Speaker 1: and like some of them understood that and they went
26:14
Speaker 1: along with it, and then like she didn't. And you know,
26:18
Speaker 1: my date though, was different than yours, Like I didn't
26:20
Speaker 1: have a lot of personal interactions, so like I didn't
26:22
Speaker 1: get to see their personalities, but I was keeping an
26:24
Speaker 1: extra I think I just had an extra eye on
26:26
Speaker 1: her because of your experience, where I was like, what's
26:28
Speaker 1: going on? Here like, I gotta figure this one out, gotcha? Gotcha?
26:33
Speaker 1: All right? Well, the nighttime portion of that date, we
26:36
Speaker 1: see Anna get time with Matt and there's not a
26:39
Speaker 1: lot of substance there. She truly didn't even know what
26:41
Speaker 1: to say. He was like, well, if you had five
26:43
Speaker 1: more minutes with me, like what do you want to
26:45
Speaker 1: talk about? And she was like um um. But meanwhile
26:50
Speaker 1: Bertnie was looking at her out on the wings, and
26:54
Speaker 1: then we see Anna and Victoria have a little pow
26:57
Speaker 1: wow again because they love each other. Now, Anna is
27:01
Speaker 1: strictly the drama at this point, because, first of all,
27:06
Speaker 1: all that we've said tonight is like Anna couldn't even
27:09
Speaker 1: talk to Matt, so so why why She's had plenty
27:12
Speaker 1: ample of time to repair to talk to Matt And
27:16
Speaker 1: all she's talked about is Brittany or talked with Victoria
27:20
Speaker 1: or she cheated. First of all, we also talked about
27:23
Speaker 1: how Anna didn't even know confirmed information on Brittany before
27:27
Speaker 1: spreading a rumor. And then all of a sudden, she's
27:30
Speaker 1: hiding acorns from Brittany when he's just trying to regular squirrel.
27:35
Speaker 1: Now vendetta against Brittany. You can't stand her and she's
27:41
Speaker 1: just making up those lives, Brittany, and then can't. That's
27:47
Speaker 1: it's like, that's the thing when you put your energy
27:49
Speaker 1: into some she's putting all her energy into the wrong
27:53
Speaker 1: thing to the point where she couldn't put any energy
27:55
Speaker 1: into the right thing. One other thing we have to
27:59
Speaker 1: mention a conversation is that is the way that Anna
28:03
Speaker 1: speaks when she says juicy things. She just looks like
28:08
Speaker 1: she she has to have the delivery of the most
28:12
Speaker 1: dramatic person ever, you know, with her mouth is like,
28:16
Speaker 1: let's just say that she's getting paid to do things
28:21
Speaker 1: with men. I can make fun of her their right.
28:27
Speaker 1: I mean, I did notice. I did take new on
28:30
Speaker 1: the delivery and I said, what's happening? It's like a comedy.
28:35
Speaker 1: And then I did say to myself, like is this
28:38
Speaker 1: real life? I'm not sure what am I watching at
28:40
Speaker 1: the moment. It was it's definitely a show. We're definitely
28:44
Speaker 1: watching a show. We came to watch something entertaining. It's entertaining,
28:47
Speaker 1: all right, Well, but you both have been okay, so
28:50
Speaker 1: you both have been on the Bachelor, Uh, in the house.
28:55
Speaker 1: You've also all, you know, been surrounded by girls, and like,
28:58
Speaker 1: is this common stuff, like, is this what goes on
29:01
Speaker 1: in the house? Is all of this as you watch
29:04
Speaker 1: this like completely new to you or you going, yeah,
29:07
Speaker 1: I had moments of this during my season. I feel
29:11
Speaker 1: like they were pulling it out of us in our season.
29:14
Speaker 1: They were like, gosh, Darnett, we didn't get traumatic enough
29:17
Speaker 1: girls Like I feel like Demi was the Victoria and
29:20
Speaker 1: Demi that that would probably that's very fun sim yes,
29:26
Speaker 1: it is um I. I. We literally there was one girl,
29:32
Speaker 1: you know, we all just couldn't stand one girl. But
29:34
Speaker 1: at the same time, it wasn't like we were a constant.
29:37
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were bullying her by any means.
29:39
Speaker 1: We were just like, man, she's not fun to hang
29:41
Speaker 1: around with. Yeah, so then you go your own way
29:44
Speaker 1: and you do your own thing. That's pretty n Yeah.
29:47
Speaker 1: So this this is all new, This is all new,
29:50
Speaker 1: Like this is stuff that we don't see. I didn't
29:52
Speaker 1: see it in my house, Like we never had like
29:54
Speaker 1: one person that like we had people in the house
29:57
Speaker 1: that were like, what's going on here, like, but they
29:59
Speaker 1: would leave pretty quickly. This just seems to be lingering,
30:02
Speaker 1: Like this thing is lingering on and on through episode
30:06
Speaker 1: an episode and it's gonna be back next week. It's
30:09
Speaker 1: just a lingering bowling that we need to stop on
30:13
Speaker 1: this season because we gotta get more into Matt James
30:15
Speaker 1: and the great Girls. Uh. We still have the last
30:18
Speaker 1: part of the episode to break down. We're going to
30:20
Speaker 1: do that with Katie involved. But again, before we do,
30:23
Speaker 1: let's take a break. All right, So let's go into
30:36
Speaker 1: the one on one of this episode. It's with Michelle,
30:39
Speaker 1: she's a new girl. Of course, the girls can't stand
30:41
Speaker 1: the fact that the new girl got time. Whatever. Whatever. Um,
30:45
Speaker 1: they have a scavenger hunt. Man, this is like a
30:46
Speaker 1: big activity date activity episode. Um. They go in the
30:52
Speaker 1: hot air balloon, which was sweet because that's where they
30:55
Speaker 1: had their first kiss, and I felt it they talked
30:59
Speaker 1: about they talked a little bit about race in America. Um,
31:03
Speaker 1: was there anything that you guys wanted to mention about that?
31:06
Speaker 1: I think that and I'm sure as we don't usually
31:11
Speaker 1: see all the conversations, I think that their conversation they
31:14
Speaker 1: kept it important but light, which is what you want
31:18
Speaker 1: to date. Like that conversation, it's hard to not go
31:22
Speaker 1: really deep and it can get dark, and I feel
31:25
Speaker 1: like they had a really good balance in that conversation. Yes,
31:29
Speaker 1: I also like the way that she was talking about
31:32
Speaker 1: how those situations play into her being a teacher and
31:37
Speaker 1: her having conversations like that and having heart towards her students,
31:42
Speaker 1: And it was totally relatable for him who was with
31:47
Speaker 1: kids all the time. Because ABC food to right, I
31:50
Speaker 1: think that I think that them bonding over kids was
31:52
Speaker 1: going to be a big thing ever since they said
31:54
Speaker 1: how many do you want? On account of three? And
31:56
Speaker 1: they both said three and they both like, really, you
31:59
Speaker 1: felt a spark there between that. It's, Uh, it's something
32:02
Speaker 1: I've been telling all season. For me, it's very obvious
32:06
Speaker 1: when Matt likes somebody. It's very obvious I think when
32:10
Speaker 1: you when he's questioning if he likes somebody, like this
32:15
Speaker 1: was very telling to me that he's really into Michelle. Like,
32:18
Speaker 1: I don't think he's into that many of these girls yet.
32:20
Speaker 1: I think he's getting there. I think he's going to
32:21
Speaker 1: even know them still. But I think maybe just because
32:25
Speaker 1: Matt is being Matt and he's being an authentic like,
32:27
Speaker 1: you can really see when he's into somebody, and it's
32:31
Speaker 1: this was a date where I go, this girl, this
32:32
Speaker 1: girl is gonna go a long ways because I think
32:35
Speaker 1: they have something special. I completely agree. Uh. Then we
32:40
Speaker 1: go into the second group date. This is where Brittany
32:43
Speaker 1: tells Katie and Ryan that there's like this escort rumor
32:48
Speaker 1: going around and then she's really hurt by it. And
32:51
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there was really a huge they like
32:54
Speaker 1: fight for love again and like again, I'm just like, wow,
32:58
Speaker 1: so many dates are so many dates on this episode
33:02
Speaker 1: are like not helping me get to know these girls
33:05
Speaker 1: or the connection they have with Matt kind of like
33:10
Speaker 1: years I love you, but you know you know what
33:15
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, this this is another group date where
33:19
Speaker 1: like they're fighting in a ring but it tells us nothing.
33:22
Speaker 1: And plus like how many times are we going to fight,
33:25
Speaker 1: like physically fight during group dates? Like it's I'm so over.
33:29
Speaker 1: This is the second second season in a row. No.
33:34
Speaker 1: Also my season we did the Vietnam fight date. Yeah,
33:38
Speaker 1: and they had to cut it short because it was
33:40
Speaker 1: too It was so bad. I mean, these girls were
33:44
Speaker 1: getting knocked around. This is not something like what why
33:49
Speaker 1: I don't get it? Yeah, I mean I see how,
33:53
Speaker 1: it seems like fun whatever, Like I was having a
33:56
Speaker 1: great time on our fight date, but the majority of
33:58
Speaker 1: the girls were scared and also cut off anyway, and
34:03
Speaker 1: I thought they would have learned from ours. Then they
34:04
Speaker 1: tried it the next season, and they're trying it this season.
34:07
Speaker 1: And not only are they the next season they were like,
34:09
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like color fights or something. Now this season
34:12
Speaker 1: is like straight up punch each other in the face,
34:15
Speaker 1: like that is if you had to cancel it two
34:18
Speaker 1: seasons before. What do we do? I don't know. And
34:21
Speaker 1: then Matt Stephen says this silly line like it's amazing
34:25
Speaker 1: how they're fighting for love and he cancels it. He's
34:30
Speaker 1: the one that's like, I couldn't take it anymore. Yeah, anyway,
34:34
Speaker 1: So we get nothing from that, But then we do
34:36
Speaker 1: go to the nighttime portion, and this is where like
34:39
Speaker 1: Katie is hearing about the escort rumors and saying like
34:44
Speaker 1: I need to stand up for this woman, and she
34:49
Speaker 1: she walks out, And I love the I love the
34:51
Speaker 1: fact that I think that Katie like made this move
34:54
Speaker 1: completely on her own, because you see, when she approaches Matt,
34:58
Speaker 1: he's surrounded by a ton of producers, so I don't
35:00
Speaker 1: think they were expecting her, and they moved away, Yeah
35:04
Speaker 1: they were attracted, and she was like, sorry, am I
35:06
Speaker 1: interrupting continues to do her thing like, didn't back up.
35:09
Speaker 1: She just kept going, so sorry, I know you're I
35:12
Speaker 1: know you're having a long night, like acknowledged his long night.
35:15
Speaker 1: Went straight to the point, and those producers were like,
35:18
Speaker 1: gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, well because it I mean,
35:23
Speaker 1: this is it Like typically on this show, and I
35:25
Speaker 1: think we said it last season, when you have the
35:27
Speaker 1: person that tells the Bachelor or the Bachelor at anything,
35:30
Speaker 1: it's usually doesn't go well, right like that is never
35:32
Speaker 1: the person that sticks around a long time. But with Katie,
35:35
Speaker 1: there's a unique difference where she's finally hit it like, gone,
35:39
Speaker 1: I've this is going too far. This is no longer healthy,
35:42
Speaker 1: it's mean. And so she's not saying I don't like
35:46
Speaker 1: this person or this person isn't here for the right reasons. No,
35:50
Speaker 1: the difference with Katie because I can tell now that
35:53
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be there, but you say that it's
35:54
Speaker 1: not the great thing to go and tell the batchelor stuff. No,
35:57
Speaker 1: it's different with Katie because she's going to Matt and saying, no,
36:00
Speaker 1: this isn't me being caddy, this isn't me just not
36:02
Speaker 1: liking somebody. This isn't me saying they're not here for
36:04
Speaker 1: the right reasons. It's me saying there is some mean
36:07
Speaker 1: things going on the house that are hurting humans. You
36:11
Speaker 1: need to know about it, Matt, because it's no longer
36:13
Speaker 1: a good environment to be in, and all is that
36:16
Speaker 1: they can hurt their like their job exactly. Yes, that's
36:20
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, because an escort being that
36:24
Speaker 1: word being attached to your name. When you google this
36:27
Speaker 1: girl's name, it's gonna come up with articles now that
36:30
Speaker 1: says like suspected of being escort in Bachelor episode and
36:34
Speaker 1: then you're gonna read the articles to see that that
36:36
Speaker 1: she's not actually an escort, but just like the name association.
36:39
Speaker 1: It's tough, yea to close out this whole episode because
36:44
Speaker 1: we can all agree there's a lot of boyling, there's
36:46
Speaker 1: a lot of mean that's going on, there's a lot
36:47
Speaker 1: of name calling. Um. Outside of that, this episode wasn't great.
36:52
Speaker 1: We got we gotta rank this episode like we do
36:54
Speaker 1: every week. Um, so Katie will start with you. We
36:58
Speaker 1: ranked this on A from A to f Uh. What
37:03
Speaker 1: was your ranking of this episode? A C plus fair enough?
37:09
Speaker 1: That would be the lowest episode ranking that we've given
37:12
Speaker 1: this year so far. Also, Katie, just for fun, we
37:14
Speaker 1: do this every week as well. What is your time?
37:17
Speaker 1: Who are your top three? Uh? Well, it's hard to
37:21
Speaker 1: keep going because I don't know what conversations they've been having,
37:24
Speaker 1: but it was Abigail at the beginning. Um, I like
37:27
Speaker 1: Brie and I'm gonna pull in Michelle. Interesting. All right,
37:31
Speaker 1: Ashley rank this episode? Okay, this is a C minus
37:35
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm being generous. Wow, Okay, top three.
37:38
Speaker 1: Top three is Rachel Bree, and um, I want to
37:44
Speaker 1: go with Abigail, but I may move, but Michelle and
37:48
Speaker 1: Abigail now have like a competition for that third spot. Well,
37:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this episode, uh a D plus because
37:57
Speaker 1: we had to see me on it, um, which brings
38:01
Speaker 1: it down a bit and absolutely ridiculous. And then I'm
38:09
Speaker 1: gonna say my top three Abigail, Michelle Bree. Rachel's gonna
38:14
Speaker 1: fall out of the top three this week, mostly because
38:16
Speaker 1: like I don't have a lot to base that on anymore.
38:19
Speaker 1: Like Rachel just is is there right now. I think
38:22
Speaker 1: she's gonna be there for a while. But Katie's gonna
38:26
Speaker 1: actually go for Rachel's gonna go five. I did that
38:29
Speaker 1: just to give a perspective of where I think Katie's
38:31
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Katie right now. I think
38:32
Speaker 1: she's doing some graz that we like Katie as viewers,
38:35
Speaker 1: and I think Matt likes Kitty as a person, but
38:37
Speaker 1: I don't think he feels a romantic chemistry with her.
38:40
Speaker 1: What do you think, zoned? But it just seems to
38:43
Speaker 1: happen like that the world. Well, the final note of
38:46
Speaker 1: episode is I thought this blooper is great because I
38:48
Speaker 1: was there for it, and so I just selfishly want
38:49
Speaker 1: to mention that Maggie in the pond, in the pumpkins
38:52
Speaker 1: spinning around in circles and then her time with Matt
38:55
Speaker 1: was just fantastic. I think Maggie is one of the
38:57
Speaker 1: sweetest people to ever be on the franchise. I hope
39:00
Speaker 1: we get to see and hear more of her and
39:03
Speaker 1: from her. Um. I think it's important, But if we don't,
39:08
Speaker 1: I love this blooper because it was so real, so
39:10
Speaker 1: true that poor girl was out in the middle there
39:13
Speaker 1: for a long time, and then she also just is
39:15
Speaker 1: a is a big fan of Matt. Well, uh, Katie,
39:18
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you, Ashley, take it away. All right, well, Katie,
39:23
Speaker 1: you were in US Weekly this week because yeah, because
39:28
Speaker 1: you wow, because you confirmed that you're dating someone. I
39:37
Speaker 1: can't believe this. What do you mean you to check
39:40
Speaker 1: the news? I mean like US Weekly? Why do I
39:46
Speaker 1: not know these things? Um? Well okay, so, like, how
39:53
Speaker 1: does everyone else know before me? Well? Okay, okay, fine, okay, fine.
39:58
Speaker 1: I kind of lead you into us a situation. You
40:01
Speaker 1: confirmed that you're dating what a year after you're you're
40:06
Speaker 1: split with Chris? But they did they didn't talk about
40:10
Speaker 1: specifically who you were dating. So, um, are you comfortable
40:14
Speaker 1: talking about who you're dating? Okay? What? Oh you're looking
40:20
Speaker 1: at him? You're looking over at him? No, someone's laughing
40:27
Speaker 1: at me someone. Yeah, I'm being laughed at? Um who? Okay?
40:34
Speaker 1: So US Weekly confirmed that I am now dating after
40:38
Speaker 1: Katie and Kris Bukowski split. This is what I just
40:40
Speaker 1: recently peopled. Um, Yes, I'm definitely dating. Okay, I'm definitely
40:46
Speaker 1: dating someone. Okay, Yes, does this person like live in
40:49
Speaker 1: the US? No? Did this person slide into your d
40:55
Speaker 1: m s before you ever met Kris Bukowski in Paradise? Nope,
41:01
Speaker 1: they didn't side into my d m S before I
41:03
Speaker 1: met Krispikowski because I met this person in person before
41:07
Speaker 1: I met Krispykowk No way. Yeah, so let's clear this up.
41:12
Speaker 1: You met this person, you're like, hey, interesting, I'm into it.
41:16
Speaker 1: You go on Paradise, you met Kris Bukowski. It's like, hey,
41:18
Speaker 1: I didn't say I did not stay interesting. I'm into it. Well,
41:22
Speaker 1: like a decent human, let's say that. Okay, good, Okay,
41:25
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to human. Okay, well, perfect, And then
41:29
Speaker 1: you reconnect afterwards and it's like, hey, maybe this could
41:34
Speaker 1: be something like after the fact and now you're dating. Hey,
41:38
Speaker 1: we're just happy for you. That's a big deal. Thank
41:41
Speaker 1: you guys so much. Yeah, I met this person randomly
41:44
Speaker 1: on the street, and then a year and I have
41:49
Speaker 1: some change after Paradise, I re met this person, yes,
41:56
Speaker 1: through d MS Ashley, kind of like you've definitely heard
42:01
Speaker 1: something right and wherever, and then yeah, and it's a
42:06
Speaker 1: it's a going you met randomly on the street. Yeah,
42:11
Speaker 1: it's actually true, it's actually you know what. And it
42:15
Speaker 1: was a street I'm literally never on unless it's for
42:18
Speaker 1: something Bachelor. So it was like the day after I
42:20
Speaker 1: filmed my Paradise intro and I was at the Mandreal
42:25
Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone always going to this Mandreal
42:27
Speaker 1: to like watch yeah, like a Hannah b episode or something.
42:34
Speaker 1: And I was going to have dinner at Harriett's rooftop
42:38
Speaker 1: and yeah, I literally walked out of the Mandren and
42:40
Speaker 1: this person was passing me on the street. Did you
42:44
Speaker 1: talk to this person on the street? Yes, I did
42:47
Speaker 1: for like a second, literally like two minutes. And maybe
42:52
Speaker 1: then this person months later ends up going into your
42:58
Speaker 1: d MS and saying, hey, we met on the street.
43:01
Speaker 1: A year and a half later or something, well, yeah,
43:05
Speaker 1: after we met on the street, this person said how
43:08
Speaker 1: was the rest of your day? And I said great?
43:10
Speaker 1: And then a year and a half later, this person
43:13
Speaker 1: thought I was where he was and asked me to
43:17
Speaker 1: go to dinner. Because my dating app had no location
43:19
Speaker 1: services on it, so it said I was pretty much anywhere,
43:23
Speaker 1: so he thought I was where he was asked me
43:25
Speaker 1: if I was around and I said I'm not. And
43:28
Speaker 1: then that's how it all started. Well, this is quite
43:32
Speaker 1: the story. It's quite the story. Once it's fully confirmed,
43:37
Speaker 1: if it's ever confirmed, maybe I'll tell some more. I'm sorry,
43:42
Speaker 1: I have one more. Yeah, I gotta ask you more. Question,
43:45
Speaker 1: did you start following him on Instagram that the minute
43:48
Speaker 1: that you saw him on the street. Uh? Yeah, I
43:54
Speaker 1: think I did, but I think I didn't, Like I'm
43:58
Speaker 1: not that stingy like following and then all of a sudden,
44:01
Speaker 1: like I do, like big cleanouts, I do big cleanouts,
44:06
Speaker 1: but he was never cleaned out. But like I never
44:08
Speaker 1: also he I never really saw him again because he
44:12
Speaker 1: never posts on Instagram, so then I never saw him again.
44:16
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some sleothing. I'm gonna go into Instagram,
44:18
Speaker 1: find people that never post on Instagram, and then I'll
44:22
Speaker 1: connect you with them. Uh, Katie, before you go here,
44:26
Speaker 1: Obviously we will talk about it in just a second.
44:29
Speaker 1: But Claire and Dale has recently publicly broken up. We
44:33
Speaker 1: talked about it on our special episode. You have gone
44:36
Speaker 1: through a public breakup in this Bachelor world. Any advice
44:41
Speaker 1: for Claire right now? Oh, gosh, find the best friend
44:46
Speaker 1: and stick with them because it's it is tough, but
44:51
Speaker 1: you're going to see it through and ultimately if it
44:54
Speaker 1: wasn't unto be gosh, I don't want to say something
44:56
Speaker 1: so cliche because she's probably gonna read that in any
44:58
Speaker 1: quote you could ever find in Pendra but like find
45:01
Speaker 1: someone's solid and stick with them until you see it
45:06
Speaker 1: through essentially, and really just I know it's quarantine, but
45:10
Speaker 1: I get your quarantine, buddy, and hunker down. Yeah. Yeah, well,
45:15
Speaker 1: because yeah, me and Demi really leaned on each other
45:18
Speaker 1: during that time in our lives, and I really would
45:21
Speaker 1: say that that helps so much, especially because like I know,
45:25
Speaker 1: she's really close with Michelle Money. I think I would say,
45:30
Speaker 1: like someone who's in bachelor World that she's really close with,
45:32
Speaker 1: like someone who actually understands a little bit of it,
45:36
Speaker 1: even though they might not have been bachelorette. Then I'm like,
45:39
Speaker 1: that's the best. Well, Katie Morton, you're the best. Thanks
45:42
Speaker 1: for coming on. Thanks for breaking in the episode with us. Uh.
45:45
Speaker 1: This was not an easy episode to watch, and you
45:47
Speaker 1: watched it for the almost samest podcast. We wish you
45:50
Speaker 1: the best in your love story that's currently unfolding. We
45:52
Speaker 1: hope to hear about it more soon, uh and hopefully
45:55
Speaker 1: come on the podcast to talk about it for the
45:56
Speaker 1: very first time. That'd be really nice of you. Hey,
45:59
Speaker 1: Katie Orton, thank you so much. Yekating so much by
46:06
Speaker 1: Bachelorette Claire Crawley breaks her silence after Dale Moss split
46:10
Speaker 1: and nout. Actually, before we dive into that, I think
46:13
Speaker 1: it's fair for you to update all of the listeners
46:15
Speaker 1: if they haven't on the recent events that have happened
46:18
Speaker 1: in this relationship. Rumors are swirling, things are being said
46:22
Speaker 1: because we didn't. It happened after our kind of special episode.
46:27
Speaker 1: So she posted that she was made aware of a
46:30
Speaker 1: quote mutual statement the same time as all of Bachelor
46:34
Speaker 1: Nation when Dale posted that breakup post what was it
46:39
Speaker 1: on Tuesday? So yeah, it obviously wasn't mutual. Um Claire
46:46
Speaker 1: said that it's been a hell of a year. Speaking
46:49
Speaker 1: for herself, her intentions with this relationship have always been
46:52
Speaker 1: very clear. She says she's totally crushed. She said this
46:56
Speaker 1: is not what she expected or hoping for. She's still
46:57
Speaker 1: trying to process it. Um. Basically, this post, it just
47:02
Speaker 1: was kind of savage to me, and I loved it.
47:04
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, he just blindsided her, posted about
47:08
Speaker 1: the breakup without letting her know he was going to
47:12
Speaker 1: so rude. It's so rude in so many ways now
47:17
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder And obviously the next headline is
47:20
Speaker 1: Dale Moss mystery Woman revealed following accusations he cheated on
47:24
Speaker 1: Bachelor Claire Crawley. If you remember, Uh, there's a headline
47:28
Speaker 1: right after they kind of went public that he was
47:31
Speaker 1: seen in New York with women. And then we kind
47:34
Speaker 1: of said, hey, these both these women have boyfriends or
47:36
Speaker 1: ones married, Like, I don't think there's anything going on there.
47:38
Speaker 1: We kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt. Well,
47:40
Speaker 1: now more are kind of coming out, uh talking about this.
47:44
Speaker 1: Not only is this statement and that she didn't even
47:46
Speaker 1: know about it, so just like it just fires me
47:51
Speaker 1: up that he would do that too, me too. There's
47:54
Speaker 1: now apparently he responded to being to blindsiding her and
47:58
Speaker 1: said this didn't come out of nowhere. Was like, yeah, duh,
48:01
Speaker 1: you guys were broken up, but you posted about it
48:04
Speaker 1: without her knowing that you were going to make it public.
48:07
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the days when we were like
48:09
Speaker 1: going through this and like that I was going through
48:11
Speaker 1: a breakup and we were talking about this thing, and
48:13
Speaker 1: it was I mean, yeah, we were barely speaking if
48:17
Speaker 1: at all. At the time. We were done. All right,
48:18
Speaker 1: we're broken up, we had moved on, we're doing other things.
48:21
Speaker 1: But when it came to like talking about it publicly,
48:24
Speaker 1: it wasn't something we did quickly because we both needed
48:26
Speaker 1: time to like process and heal, you know, kind of
48:28
Speaker 1: like order reorder our lives. And the second was like
48:32
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not ready to respond to this publicly yet,
48:34
Speaker 1: like we don't need to, and we both worked together
48:36
Speaker 1: on are you ready? Yes? Am I ready? Yes? Okay,
48:39
Speaker 1: now let's do it like it was. It was a
48:42
Speaker 1: very civil thing. It wasn't easy, like I didn't enjoy
48:46
Speaker 1: talking to her about it, but like it was a
48:48
Speaker 1: civil thing we did because it's respectful and it's just right.
48:51
Speaker 1: And this this is the thing that fires me up.
48:53
Speaker 1: Actually you can go on Instagram and talk about all
48:55
Speaker 1: these things and he's a great dude, and then this
48:57
Speaker 1: is a sign that's like how selfish can you be?
49:00
Speaker 1: I completely agree, and like we don't want to perpetuate
49:02
Speaker 1: rumors that we have no confirmation on. And of course
49:05
Speaker 1: we won't UM ever probably get confirmation that he was
49:09
Speaker 1: cheating on Claire, but we will mention that there was
49:13
Speaker 1: this woman, that it was his real estate agent, that
49:16
Speaker 1: whenever he was in New York without Claire, he seemed
49:20
Speaker 1: to always be hanging out with Um and Claire was
49:24
Speaker 1: insecure about this friendship relationship whatever. The entire time they
49:28
Speaker 1: were together um and Claire would always reassure Claire that
49:31
Speaker 1: it was just nothing um. But multiple people say that
49:35
Speaker 1: they saw the two of them kind of just parading
49:38
Speaker 1: around New York whenever Claire was around, and whenever Claire
49:42
Speaker 1: did confront him about this, he would always deny it. UM.
49:47
Speaker 1: So we're not saying that he did or didn't, but
49:49
Speaker 1: you know, there's definitely some I mean, that's just like
49:52
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like you don't hang out
49:55
Speaker 1: with a beautiful single girl when you're engaged, and you
50:00
Speaker 1: don't run around with them when your fiance is not around.
50:02
Speaker 1: I just like one of those things that like I
50:06
Speaker 1: it's the age old. Can you be friends with like
50:09
Speaker 1: somebody of the opposite sex when you're in a relationship, Yes,
50:13
Speaker 1: you can, but only to a certain degree. Like of
50:15
Speaker 1: course I have guy friends, but like I also wouldn't
50:18
Speaker 1: be hanging out with them without Jared, like all the
50:23
Speaker 1: time when I'm in a public relationship, fresh engagement. I
50:28
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I mean, Like there's a
50:29
Speaker 1: fine line there. Well. E News is saying that Claire
50:33
Speaker 1: has seen proof of the two of them hanging it
50:35
Speaker 1: out Uh. And multiple people have told that Claire and
50:39
Speaker 1: Dale are that told Claire that Dale was parading around
50:42
Speaker 1: New York City with this girl. So it seems like
50:45
Speaker 1: this at least played a factor in it. Now past
50:48
Speaker 1: that we don't know anything else, who knows if we will,
50:50
Speaker 1: it's not really any of our business. Now, it's just
50:52
Speaker 1: it's over. It's sad that it happened this way. It's
50:56
Speaker 1: not okay that she didn't really know about it being
50:57
Speaker 1: announced by Dale. The whole thing's messy, um. And so
51:03
Speaker 1: it's just it's been tough, and we mean, we did
51:05
Speaker 1: a whole special episode on it without knowing anything, and
51:07
Speaker 1: now it's kind of coming out and we're like, yeah,
51:09
Speaker 1: I don't really like any more of it. Well, Claire
51:11
Speaker 1: Crawley's best friend, Michelle Money and Katie had just mentioned
51:14
Speaker 1: how she needs to find her best friends right now,
51:17
Speaker 1: Uh sends her a better Off candle after Dale Moss split,
51:21
Speaker 1: as according to US Weekly. Yeah, so, Michelle posted in
51:25
Speaker 1: the story of this gift that she was about to
51:27
Speaker 1: go send off the Claire or she said, guess who
51:29
Speaker 1: I'm sending These two? In the candles read thank you
51:32
Speaker 1: next better Off and clean Slate and then she also
51:36
Speaker 1: had a little Instagram sticker that said boy bye. Yeah.
51:40
Speaker 1: I thought that Michelle would be like that friend for
51:44
Speaker 1: Claire and I'm glad that she's there for her. Yeah.
51:47
Speaker 1: I hope there's many they're coming out and supporting Claar
51:49
Speaker 1: right now. Well, moving on to a different topic. Kelly Flannagan,
51:53
Speaker 1: if you remember she was the one that was dating
51:55
Speaker 1: Peter Webber for a long time, said that she would
51:57
Speaker 1: definitely consider being the Bachelor after Peter Webber split. This
52:01
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly, when I read the comments under
52:05
Speaker 1: this post, there are so many people that were like, Okay, Kelly,
52:08
Speaker 1: we never asked you to be the bachelorrette I would.
52:10
Speaker 1: But you know, she's responding to a question that Press
52:13
Speaker 1: asked her. They said, would you ever be the Bachelor?
52:16
Speaker 1: And she said sure, but she doesn't think like I'm
52:19
Speaker 1: next in line to become the bachelorette. I think the
52:23
Speaker 1: better question would probably be like, Kelly, you're going to
52:25
Speaker 1: go to Paradise now, And she said that she would,
52:30
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, consider it. So I would imagine that
52:33
Speaker 1: she would also consider Paradise. It's going to be interesting
52:36
Speaker 1: to see. I think it would be a big storyline
52:38
Speaker 1: if she did go well. Sarah Trot shades. If you
52:42
Speaker 1: remember Sarah Trot, she just recently left the season of
52:44
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. She shades Victoria Larson after early Bachelor exit.
52:48
Speaker 1: The quote that she used is real queens fix each
52:52
Speaker 1: other's crowns. What a great qua love Love that instagram
52:59
Speaker 1: that she post said with that caption, she said that
53:02
Speaker 1: she thought this is very interesting. Sarah actually thought going
53:06
Speaker 1: to the show that she was going to be able
53:08
Speaker 1: to communicate with her parents and have access to a phone,
53:11
Speaker 1: and then when she got there, she found out that
53:12
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. So that made the process a lot
53:16
Speaker 1: more difficult for her. I wonder why she would ever
53:18
Speaker 1: think that that's going to be a possibility. It's hard
53:22
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know if she just assumed it,
53:24
Speaker 1: she didn't know the stipulations, but yes she did it.
53:29
Speaker 1: But yeah, then she comes out publicly, uh, kind of
53:31
Speaker 1: talking about Victoria. Yeah, okay, So but to address the
53:34
Speaker 1: quote that you just said, she says that, um, we
53:38
Speaker 1: see that quote women supporting women all the time on
53:41
Speaker 1: the internet, but what does that really mean to me?
53:42
Speaker 1: It means sharing encouragement instead of judgment, reframing from negative
53:47
Speaker 1: comments even when it's sometimes easier to say something mean
53:50
Speaker 1: and says instead of saying something nice. It means supporting
53:53
Speaker 1: a female in business paying full price. It means supporting
53:56
Speaker 1: a younger woman in your industry and offering guidance and
53:59
Speaker 1: support when appropriate. Means value your community over competition. It
54:04
Speaker 1: does not mean you have to pretend to like everyone.
54:07
Speaker 1: That's impossible, but it does mean being a good person,
54:11
Speaker 1: keeping your head up and refraining from degrading another human being.
54:16
Speaker 1: You never know the internal battles another person is going through,
54:19
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, just be decent
54:22
Speaker 1: and a kind individual. I think that was really a
54:26
Speaker 1: great way of articulating the way that Victoria and some
54:29
Speaker 1: of the other women treated her. I think it's fantastic.
54:33
Speaker 1: I mean, just really well done. Uh and I just
54:35
Speaker 1: love the statement real queens fix each other's crowns well.
54:39
Speaker 1: Speaking of Victoria big headline this week, people are talking
54:43
Speaker 1: about Bachelor villain Victoria Larson's two thousand twelve shoplifting arrest resurfaces.
54:50
Speaker 1: You knew something like not that she would have a
54:53
Speaker 1: history with anything, but you just knew people were going
54:55
Speaker 1: to start digging for any past that can point to
54:58
Speaker 1: what is going on with her on t TV. Yep. So,
55:03
Speaker 1: she was arrested for petty theft in two thousand twelve
55:07
Speaker 1: for stealing stuff from a grocery store, most notably makeup products. Um,
55:14
Speaker 1: she shoplifted over two fifty dollars worth of items, but
55:18
Speaker 1: she did go to the self checkout counter and she
55:22
Speaker 1: bought some things, but there was a bag that she
55:24
Speaker 1: kept were apparently of two that she did not scan,
55:30
Speaker 1: and then she denied shoplifting once the cameras caught her.
55:35
Speaker 1: But the thing was, she didn't know that there was
55:38
Speaker 1: cameras watching her, so she ended up festing up and
55:41
Speaker 1: she was let out on five dollars bond. It is
55:47
Speaker 1: a absolute wild story, but we all have her past. Um.
55:52
Speaker 1: I think that the big thing now is like, what
55:54
Speaker 1: in the world's going on in Victoria on the show? Well,
55:56
Speaker 1: speaking of the show, Matt James's former roommate has a
55:59
Speaker 1: lot to say about the Bachelor. This according to Refinery
56:03
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Okay, so, apparently a roommate of his who
56:07
Speaker 1: will not be named, came out and said that he
56:11
Speaker 1: he was not a good roommate because he basically invited
56:15
Speaker 1: people over to stay over at their place for long
56:17
Speaker 1: periods of time, even going to the extent of making
56:21
Speaker 1: people keys. So there are people going in and out
56:23
Speaker 1: of their shared department all the time. Those people that
56:27
Speaker 1: coming in and out included Tyler Cameron Um just said
56:32
Speaker 1: that they basically had a big falling out at the
56:34
Speaker 1: end of their roommate ship. Well, I mean, I can
56:39
Speaker 1: see Matt James being a very generous man, like, hey,
56:42
Speaker 1: if you need to play stay, come hang out right now,
56:44
Speaker 1: there's always roommate code. Whatever it may be. You kind
56:47
Speaker 1: of agree on it or you don't whatever that looks like.
56:49
Speaker 1: But just because he's a friendly guy and he's generous,
56:53
Speaker 1: I can't hate him for that, Like I can judge
56:55
Speaker 1: the guy. But it does sound like there is it's
56:59
Speaker 1: just into I think that, you know, now the roommates
57:01
Speaker 1: feel like it's now time to speak on stuff. I
57:03
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't love that. So the next one
57:06
Speaker 1: is something that has kind of been talked about now
57:07
Speaker 1: in the headlines. It is interesting. It's unexpected to me.
57:11
Speaker 1: I thought this season would be everything opposite of this,
57:14
Speaker 1: But ABC exact Rob Mills addresses Matt James is lower
57:17
Speaker 1: Bachelor ratings, the quotas. People are just getting to know
57:21
Speaker 1: him according to US Weekly. I mean, I get it,
57:24
Speaker 1: you have no you have no attachment to him from
57:27
Speaker 1: a previous season. You don't really care about this random
57:31
Speaker 1: guy finding love. There's a big component to getting to
57:35
Speaker 1: know the person on the previous season and getting invested
57:39
Speaker 1: and why they deserve this right. But I mean, Matt
57:43
Speaker 1: is just so good at it that I wish people
57:46
Speaker 1: didn't think like that and would give it the chance,
57:49
Speaker 1: because besides this past episode, I think everything's been excellent.
57:53
Speaker 1: I think he's been a great, great Bachelor. And Rob
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Speaker 1: Mills is saying that, I think you're going to see
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Speaker 1: the ratings rise exponentially more than you would have seen
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Speaker 1: in previous seasons because people are going to start talking
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Speaker 1: about it and it's going to be more of a
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Speaker 1: word of mouth thing. The the degree the decrease in viewers.
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Speaker 1: It's like under five million in the past two weeks,
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Speaker 1: and that is a lot lower than usual. It's really
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Speaker 1: low there. It's like half at half of what is expected.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. Um, there's a lot to that.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep kind of looking into that as weeks go
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Speaker 1: on here and we'll find out what exactly is going on.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this episode is going to help
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Speaker 1: matters that That's the thing. I don't know if uh,
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Speaker 1: this episode really pushed the ratings any higher. Uh there
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Speaker 1: there is nothing talk worthy coming from it. Well. Uh.
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Speaker 1: One of our final headlines today is the Bachelor's Nick
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Speaker 1: File is dating surgical technologist Natalie Joy. This according to People, Well,
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Speaker 1: Nick was seen looks like a paparazzi shot of him
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Speaker 1: walking around his neighborhood with a lady. Um. Obviously, like
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Speaker 1: things get weird when we talk about our friends on
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Speaker 1: this episode, on these episodes, So I don't want to
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Speaker 1: like confirm or deny his relationship. I'm sure that when
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Speaker 1: Nick is ready to talk about any sort of person
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Speaker 1: in his life, he'll do so on his own podcast. Well,
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Speaker 1: it feels like people is confirming it. I usually trust people.
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Speaker 1: Good for Nick if he is. She seems like a
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Speaker 1: nice girl. Is Hannah Brown dating model Adam Willard? Bachelor
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Speaker 1: Nation thinks So yeah, looks like it. So people are
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Speaker 1: really sleuthing on her Instagram and she was seen enjoying
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Speaker 1: a romantic dinner with a with a boy in Nashville,
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Speaker 1: and on the same day she posted it in the
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Speaker 1: story of her like cozying up with a man. Faces
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Speaker 1: not included, and people have somehow figured out that this
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Speaker 1: man is Adam Woollard. And I'll say that I looked
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Speaker 1: up Adam before recording this podcast and he's quite a
1:00:00
Speaker 1: q cute guy. Good for her, or if this is true,
1:00:04
Speaker 1: good for her? Well. Final headline The Bachelor creator Mike
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Speaker 1: Flice asks thirty four point five million, the same amount
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Speaker 1: I paid for my home in Colorado for for ocean
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Speaker 1: front uh Hawaii home. Yeah wow. So in two thousand
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Speaker 1: and sixteen, Flics bought this place for sixteen UM for
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Speaker 1: sixteen point two million from Julia Roberts. Heck, yes, that
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Speaker 1: is so cool. He apparently has remodeled the property and
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Speaker 1: completely redone the surrounding landscape, making him put this sucker
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Speaker 1: on the market for thirty four point five million. It's
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Speaker 1: over two acres, it's ocean front, of course, it's one
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Speaker 1: of the largest parcels of land in this specific bay
1:00:56
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Um, it's the north shore. It's it's apparently
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Speaker 1: just gorgeous. The house itself dates back to you. Yeah,
1:01:08
Speaker 1: what a win for Mike Flies. I mean that is
1:01:11
Speaker 1: something special. Well, uh, this is the almost Famous podcast.
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Speaker 1: It's been a terrific episode and even though this episode itself,
1:01:19
Speaker 1: maybe of this week's Bachelor, wasn't up to our standards.
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