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Aleister Crowley Was Just a Rich Edgelord · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: We are going deeper and deeper into this rabbit hole
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  Speaker 1: of Satan and black magic. And so, I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you've got young kids in the room, tell them to
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  Speaker 1: crank it up and scoot a little bit closer to
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  Speaker 1: the TV because you're going to learn everything that you're
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  Speaker 1: Anton LaVey and American Satan, and now I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get a little bit closer to the actual
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  Speaker 1: summoning of demons. This one is called In Search of
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  Speaker 1: the Great Beast 666. That's the name of the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: Came out in 2007. Directed by Robert Garofalo. And this
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  Speaker 1: is a pretty long one. This one is like a
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  Speaker 1: little bit north of two hours long. And it was
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  Speaker 1: distributed by... This is the actual name of the company.
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  Speaker 1: The Disinformation Company, which also released it on DVD in 2009.
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  Speaker 1: So this was... I don't think this ever came on TV,
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  Speaker 1: although it 100% has this like.
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  Speaker 1: History channel BBC kind of feel to it if you
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  Speaker 1: told me that this was a history channel special that
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  Speaker 1: came on at like midnight at some point probably in
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  Speaker 1: the early 2000s it has that exact sort of um
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  Speaker 1: like nod to it and fun fact the music in
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  Speaker 1: this documentary is mostly by Rick Wakeman of yes in
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  Speaker 1: case you know who that is I just thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a fun little fact So it's essentially about the
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  Speaker 1: life and times of Alistair Crowley. And it was directed
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  Speaker 1: by Donna Zuckerbrot. And not to confuse this with another
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  Speaker 1: documentary called In Search of the Great Beast 666, which
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  Speaker 1: also came out in the same year, 2007, by Donna Zuckerbrot.
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  Speaker 1: But that one was only 48 minutes long. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is part of that disinformation campaign.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Plotting the course. This is actually a fairly long one.
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  Speaker 1: Aleister Crowley lived a pretty long life and he did
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  Speaker 1: a lot of crazy stuff in that life. And this
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  Speaker 1: kind of chronologically goes over most of the main beats.
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  Speaker 1: It skips over some of the weirder ones that I've
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  Speaker 1: heard about. So I'm not going to get into too
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  Speaker 1: many tangents just because there's so much to cover in
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  Speaker 1: this particular video. I'm just curious, going into this, how
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  Speaker 1: much did you care or know about Aleister Crowley from
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  Speaker 1: a biographical level?
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  Speaker 4: I know a.
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  Speaker 5: Little bit, and I've done a little bit of research.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard a little podcast on it. I actually was
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  Speaker 5: writing a song about Aleister Crowley, trying to get into
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  Speaker 5: the tune, because I figured if I get a Crowley
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  Speaker 5: song going, that's where the... Do out that will and
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  Speaker 5: I'll get into the industry, sign my soul over, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the typical stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But no, I don't know. I'm not a huge like
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  Speaker 4: in his whole life story.
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  Speaker 5: I just know bits and pieces more to the Golden
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  Speaker 5: Dawn stuff later years in the book of Satan in
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  Speaker 5: the book of law, like that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just knock out the chronological steps here. So
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  Speaker 1: it starts and this documentary actually has like a little
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  Speaker 1: title card before they go on to the next section.
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  Speaker 1: So it kind of is a little bit structured. So
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  Speaker 1: the first one is The Beast is Born. And it
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  Speaker 1: mentions Aleister Crowley, who's actually born Edward Alexander Crowley. He
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  Speaker 1: changes his name to Aleister later as part of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his his discovery journey. And he's grows up in an
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  Speaker 1: intensely religious, their words are, in Plymouth Brethren. And he
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  Speaker 1: develops this animosity and rebellion against Christianity because of how strict,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, his upbringing was. He'd have to go and
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  Speaker 1: read the Bible every time something happened. It was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: go bring out the Bible, do your prayers. Like, so
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  Speaker 1: he was sort of like the OG rebellious kid that
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  Speaker 1: put all of his, and there was also something about
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  Speaker 1: his grandma who Would call him like the, or his
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  Speaker 1: mom would call him a beast. You're the beast of
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  Speaker 1: the 666. So he started to actually identify himself with
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  Speaker 1: the beast in the book of revelation. And that's where
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  Speaker 1: his early persona all kind of stemmed from.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I kind of got it because it seems that
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  Speaker 5: the significant thing that happened to him, I don't think
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  Speaker 5: he was close to his mother. And I think his
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  Speaker 5: mother was very strict on the religion. And he kind
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  Speaker 5: of looked up to his dad for a while, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of his life. And then him and his dad,
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  Speaker 5: he kind of didn't always, didn't start seeing eye to
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  Speaker 5: eye with him.
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  Speaker 4: And then his dad died. And I think that he
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  Speaker 4: really was against the religion.
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  Speaker 5: And I could say like from my own experience, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't join the Church of Satan or I didn't like
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  Speaker 5: start any new religions or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But when my dad died, when I was 13, I was,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, fuck God, you know, I was, I
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  Speaker 5: was angry. So I was like, I wonder if that
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  Speaker 5: like led him down this direction. And then his mom
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  Speaker 5: being so, heavy on him. And like, maybe like, you
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  Speaker 5: need to do this. Like I could imagine it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: just like, Oh, I love you. I'm gonna say a
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  Speaker 5: prayer for you.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, go get on your knees and pray. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Stuff that was like actually making him piss. Cause he
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  Speaker 5: then had this like, really like not like LaVey type,
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  Speaker 5: as we talked about in one of the earlier documentaries,
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  Speaker 5: but he had this like, Oh, I'm petty.
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  Speaker 4: You want to play petty?
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to be out petty you guys and everything
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  Speaker 5: that you do, I'm going to like get on.
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  Speaker 1: So there was some weird claims in this documentary that
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard before. One of these, this is wild,
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  Speaker 1: was that when he was born, he had four strands
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  Speaker 1: of hair that were growing out of the front of
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  Speaker 1: his forehead. And that unprompted, unstyled, they naturally formed a
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  Speaker 1: swastika on his forehead from his, like this baby, his
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  Speaker 1: baby hairs formed a swastika the way that they grew
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  Speaker 1: from So early on, this concept of like Mark of
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  Speaker 1: the Beast was already maybe a part of this.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But but again, this is pre-World War Two. So this
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  Speaker 1: swastika wouldn't have had the exact same sort of like
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  Speaker 1: baggage that would come along with it as a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later in life. Also, I just got to get
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  Speaker 1: this out of my system now, even before we get
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  Speaker 1: to overboard moments and hidden treasures and all that, that
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  Speaker 1: a large majority of this documentary are reenactments. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say reenactments, not... Um, like it's, it's very history
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  Speaker 1: channel BBC style, but like there's an old dude that
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  Speaker 1: dresses up like Aleister Crowley and sort of speaks as
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  Speaker 1: if he is Aleister Crowley. So instead of saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when Aleister Crowley was just 11 years old, he did X, Y,
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  Speaker 1: and Z. It's got this old guy in a chair
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, back when I was nine
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  Speaker 1: years old, like he, he does the part. So you
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  Speaker 1: have to kind of embrace that theatrical reenactment level because
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  Speaker 1: it is the most recurring theme throughout this entire documentary,
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  Speaker 1: which is why it feels so much like an actual
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  Speaker 1: history channel style documentary, like cheese and all right. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Were you jarred by that? Did you
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it?
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  Speaker 4: I just thought they could do better casting. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: And so in talking about like, again, chronologically growing up,
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  Speaker 1: this is one of the stories that this old guy
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  Speaker 1: tells in like first person. But they're talking about how
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  Speaker 1: when Crowley was a young kid, he read that cats
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  Speaker 1: had nine lives, you know, this old saying. And he
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  Speaker 1: took it literally and he went and found a cat
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  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood and he gave it arsenic. He chloroformed
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  Speaker 1: it with arsenic. Then he stabbed it, cut its throat,
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  Speaker 1: smashed its skull, burned it, drowned it, and threw it
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  Speaker 1: out a window. And he like basically trying to kill
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  Speaker 1: it nine times to see if he could prove to himself.
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  Speaker 1: And he wrote that the operation was successful. Like he
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  Speaker 1: fully was able to show that you can kill a
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  Speaker 1: cat after you murder it nine different ways. And he
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  Speaker 1: has a note in his diary that's like, I was
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  Speaker 1: sorry for the animal, but I was set to carry
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  Speaker 1: out the experiment for science just as any young boy would.
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  Speaker 1: So I couldn't tell when they're doing this reenactment. Like,
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  Speaker 1: do you think he really did this? Like, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: shock me that maybe he went out and killed a cat,
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  Speaker 1: but like for those reasons and with that intent, part
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  Speaker 1: of this just feels like, you know, being an edgelord
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  Speaker 1: and writing this into your biography.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think you see that a lot of that throughout
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  Speaker 5: this film that like, cause they're like, that's what he's talking.
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  Speaker 5: And you're like, Hey, he's hyping himself up, bro. Like
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  Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, I'm bad-ass bro. I killed, I had
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  Speaker 5: to do all nine lives.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, and I did it
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  Speaker 4: this many ways. I think you're right.
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  Speaker 5: I think some of it's a little exaggeration from his part,
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  Speaker 5: like of how he sees himself. I'm sure he did
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  Speaker 5: the experiment, but I don't think it was to that extent.
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  Speaker 1: He just wanted to torture a cat and wanted to like,
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  Speaker 1: and this is why mom. So yeah. Speaking of it,
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like He was ever going to have
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  Speaker 1: a normal childhood at any part because his mom literally
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  Speaker 1: believed that he was the Antichrist. She called him the Beast.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why he calls himself Beast 666. And he
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  Speaker 1: would get in trouble with the Christian headmaster at his
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  Speaker 1: school for trying to corrupt, and I'm doing air quotes,
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  Speaker 1: corrupt the other boys. And they don't say what this
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  Speaker 1: corruption was, but I'm pretty sure he was trying to
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  Speaker 1: like get them to do gay stuff. That's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the impression that I got. And he knew how like
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  Speaker 1: basically rebellious that would have been, how much of an
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  Speaker 1: uproar it would have been. So if, you know, mom
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  Speaker 1: and teacher, if you're calling me the devil and the beast, well,
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  Speaker 1: what would the beast do? The beast would go and
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  Speaker 1: cause a whole bunch of trouble. So that was sort
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  Speaker 1: of the impression I got from his reaction. early days.
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  Speaker 1: And that's, I mean, it's not like this documentary is
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  Speaker 1: necessarily pro or anti Crowley. It seems very objective in
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  Speaker 1: this way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that you can kind of make your
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  Speaker 5: own decision on him. I I'm with you. I think
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  Speaker 5: a lot of it was like, maybe he fluffed up
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  Speaker 5: some of the stuff he wrote, but a lot of
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  Speaker 5: him was just like being the, all you said it
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  Speaker 5: perfectly or like the ultimate edge Lord of that time.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And that's, early 1900s, late 1800s.
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  Speaker 5: We're in that timeframe that throughout his life, he's just
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  Speaker 5: like the ultimate edge Lord.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, Oh, that's taboo. I do that. Like, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Anything that was against society. He's like, I can do that.
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  Speaker 4: We can do whatever we want.
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  Speaker 5: That's what the do without wilt stuff is about, right?
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  Speaker 5: Like you can do whatever you want, bro. You want
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  Speaker 5: to kill a cat? And then you kind of base
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  Speaker 5: it to where I think he just wanted to kill
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  Speaker 5: a cat. But then to make himself feel better about it,
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  Speaker 5: he's like, no, no, I'm doing a scientific experiment on it.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of just being like a weird kid that's like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to kill a cat.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he needed to rationalize any,
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  Speaker 1: it almost felt like he, he enjoyed doing something wrong
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  Speaker 1: or taboo. So for example, that was the first one
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  Speaker 1: that they, that he kills a cat when he was
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  Speaker 1: a young kid. Um, then he ends up getting an
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  Speaker 1: STD from a prostitute and kicked out of school at
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  Speaker 1: this point. This is pretty early on. This is, this
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  Speaker 1: is in his teenage years, right? So he gets kicked
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  Speaker 1: out of a school for getting an STD from a
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  Speaker 1: prostitute as a young teenager goes to a different school and,
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  Speaker 1: joins the chess club and starts rock climbing. And they
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  Speaker 1: actually have an 1894 was his first trip to the
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  Speaker 1: Alps to go mountain climbing. And this is something that
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  Speaker 1: he does basically throughout the rest of his life until
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  Speaker 1: he becomes a poor old fat heroin addict. But up
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  Speaker 1: until that point, he's going and doing all this. So
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a recurring theme. Then in 1895,
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  Speaker 1: he's 20 years old. He goes to Trinity College in Cambridge.
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  Speaker 1: And this is when he's like, all right, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to re-identify. He changes his name from Edward to Alistair.
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  Speaker 1: And he basically, he's a nerd, bro. He's in his
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  Speaker 1: room 90% of the time, either playing chess or reading.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently when he joined the chess club, he was
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  Speaker 1: so good at it. He immediately beat the president of
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  Speaker 1: the chess club as soon as he joined. So, I mean...
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  Speaker 1: To imply that he's really clever and he impresses people.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as he gets into a new group, they're like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: this dude already mastered things that we've been doing. And
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  Speaker 1: this is going to become a recurring theme over and over.
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  Speaker 1: So the next summer is when he goes into the
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  Speaker 1: Alps and he spends the entire summer climbing the Alps.
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  Speaker 1: The summer after that, he teaches himself Russian and goes
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  Speaker 1: solo to St. Petersburg just to, like, see what the
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  Speaker 1: hell's going on over there. So this concept of Aleister
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  Speaker 1: Crowley will get a thing in his mind that he
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  Speaker 1: wants to do, and he'll go and do it. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the whole do what thou will is almost like his
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  Speaker 1: motivational mantra to begin with before it turns into a
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  Speaker 1: religion or a cult or anything. And props due to Crowley,
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  Speaker 1: you know, forgive me, Jesus, you know, Father, Son, and
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  Speaker 1: Holy Spirit. But I almost feel that, like, this guy
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  Speaker 1: really was marching to the beat of his own drum.
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  Speaker 1: Not in a way of like, well, screw you, mom.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do the opposite. Maybe it started that way,
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  Speaker 1: but at a certain point, he really felt like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: it's liberating to just do what the hell you want
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  Speaker 1: to do and everyone else be damned. He locked into
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  Speaker 1: that mentality in his early teens and never dropped it.
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  Speaker 5: Plus, I would imagine in that time frame, it's probably really,
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  Speaker 5: really stands out compared to like the 60s, 70s, the 80s, 90s,
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  Speaker 5: where you're like, there's all these like different things happening.
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  Speaker 5: It may blend in with the hippie movement or a
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  Speaker 5: metal movement, but.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, dude, you're like a first of your kind,
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  Speaker 4: kind of right.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure there was other people doing similar things, but
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 4: He was more prevalent.
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  Speaker 5: And one specific note I think is important to say
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  Speaker 5: in this is that he's kind of a trust fund kid, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like he's, I was immediately wanting to say like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's throw a caveat in here that this is a
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  Speaker 1: rich kid. This is a trust fund kid. Literally that,
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  Speaker 1: that he blew through his mom's inheritance and his dad's inheritance.
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  Speaker 1: And he had like rich uncles and aunts and he
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  Speaker 1: blew through their inheritances too. So part of the whole, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I want. It's a way
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  Speaker 1: easier to do that when you're being bankrolled by a
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  Speaker 1: trust fund.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah makes it much easier and throughout his life that
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  Speaker 5: also opens a lot of doors for him because he
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  Speaker 5: has this money situation that a lot of people need
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  Speaker 5: to whether they want to go and i think that
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  Speaker 5: but to your point too he was like still captivated
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  Speaker 5: to people wasn't just his money he was also able
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  Speaker 5: to like he honed in on being able to be
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  Speaker 5: so different and it seems like he his charm was
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  Speaker 5: very uh prevalent too because he got a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people to follow him and his philosophy again he's like
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  Speaker 5: yeah you know like i i gotta do it every
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  Speaker 5: like one to two days he's like why would i
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  Speaker 5: be in a relationship i could just have a prostitute
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  Speaker 5: again you have the money to where the another kid
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't have that so his whole moral compass was
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  Speaker 5: easier to navigate through because you had opportunities that uh
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  Speaker 5: others didn't have so he could make his like well
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  Speaker 5: you could just buy a prostitute bro you don't need
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  Speaker 5: a girlfriend and everybody's like dude we don't have whatever
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  Speaker 5: the cost is i don't know what the going cost
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  Speaker 5: for a prostitute in the early 1900s was they get
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  Speaker 5: a couple shekels i'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: He so and this is in 1897 so this point
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  Speaker 1: he's like 22 years old early 20s and he said
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  Speaker 1: that there was this new year's eve party he went
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  Speaker 1: to that changed his life and that on this new
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  Speaker 1: year's eve party He became conscious of like another entity
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  Speaker 1: that was living inside of him where he could ask
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  Speaker 1: it questions and it would answer him. So he came
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  Speaker 1: up with this idea that he was a chosen one.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: He was beyond just being an edgelord. There was actually
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: something about him that like another entity had possessed. Again,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this is him retroactively
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: writing lore into him. It's like, oh, I had entities
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: in me. So you have to take all that with
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: a grain of salt with Crowley because he knew what
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he was doing and what he was saying. And that
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was one of the interesting quotes, too, is that he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: mentioned that from that point on, every 48 hours, at least,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: he hired a prostitute. And the quote was, Why spend
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: time chasing when you can have it delivered to the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: back door like milk? So like he just saw it
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: as a commodity and like, oh, if I just regularly
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: do this, like having like the pool guy come and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: clean your pool every once in a while, like that's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: how he treated prostitutes. And then he starts making some
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: other nerd friends that I assume are also, I would
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: assume that Crowley is probably like, the most, um, avant-garde
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: outlandish of all the people that he comes into contact with,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but he's able to code switch because he's this trust
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: fund kid and he's been to private school and he's,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he, he can fit in with that crowd,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: but then he's like, Hey, you want to go and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: climb a mountain and bang a prostitute? Like he's that
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: influence guy where you're like, Our son went off. You know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: if your son's not Crowley, you send your kid off
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to school and he's doing well. And all of a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: sudden he comes back home and he's like not doing great.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: It's because he made friends with Aleister Crowley. And I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: don't think anything was going to save your kid from that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So one of the first people he makes friends with
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: is someone named Gerald Festus Kelly. And this is where Crowley...
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: They mentioned that he's basically bi, like he's anything. He'll
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just have sex with anyone, anything, I assume, right? But
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: at the time, this would have got you in trouble.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It was literally illegal to be gay in most of Europe,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: especially in the towns that he was living in. And
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: he also didn't want to be seen as like an
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Oscar Wilde. So he kind of... like hid that part,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: but you'll notice he makes these like close friends and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: chances are just like in, uh, early like Bible school,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like he's corrupting young men everywhere he goes. So Crowley
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: writes this, uh, series of poems called white stains, which
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: if you, if you ever, uh, want to get into
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like the deepest, darkest, weirdest, most disgusting form of Aleister Crowley,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: this is the thing that you search. You go online
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and you search Crowley white stains and it's like all
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: these different poems. So he writes these poems to his
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: new friend, uh, at the age of like 22. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: then he basically gets, um, Kelly to start dabbling in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: magical rituals and And then essentially he marries Kelly's sister
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: at some point. So he like ingrains himself into this
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: guy's family. Then he makes another friend called Oscar Ekenstein,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: who's another experienced mountain climber. He makes another friend called
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: George Cecil Jones. And George Cecil Jones is well known
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: because he's this chemist that's studying both alchemy and the occult.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And Crowley kind of becomes like a regular... guest. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: George Cecil Jones is the one that tells Crowley about
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: this group called the golden dawn, like the secret society
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that all talks about basically magic and alchemy. And I
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: think that that moment when, when Crowley is like, Oh,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: what's this, this golden dawn thing, that's where this whole
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: other trajectory kind of comes from.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: And then he got his hunger to become this. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I think too, I think in my opinion, set out
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: to take it over, right? Like he found an opportunity
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: and he found a guy that was also desperate. That's like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Hey man, I'm losing my, uh, uh, my power with
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: the people or, or his section. And like, I need
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: money to like capitalize on this and I need Crowley.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: So it's kind of like a perfect marriage where Crowley's
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: looking for something more than just like, okay, I've went
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: through this now. Now he's starting to dip into the
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: secret societies of the world. Once I will say just
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: to pause for a moment. even though people don't like
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: alistair crowley and i get it that he doesn't he
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: represents a lot he kind of lived an interesting life
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: right like he's he was in incorporated in so many
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: stuff like where you're going from the alps to a
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: secret society bro like to a a top cambridge the
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: top universities of the time to being able to go
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: like just with the common folk he really had a
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: well-rounded um where he.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Saw all aspects of it. Whether you love him or
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: hate him, it's just pretty interesting.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I was pretty captivated, even with some of the over-heavy
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: on some of the stuff they did throughout the documentary
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: of how the style was. I was still captivated enough.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: It was like, damn, this guy's pretty damn interesting, more
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: than I already knew.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: The spectrum that this guy like lived on and slid
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: around on, like, for example, this, this almost sounds like hyperbole,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: but this is like the actual life of Alistair Crowley,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: where you're going to Cambridge and you're beating the president
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of the chess club. And then you're going to a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: golden Dawn ritual circle. And then you're going and, um,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: basically summiting like these mountains in the Alps for the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: first time ever. And, And then at the end of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the day, you're going to, like, the seediest, darkest alleyway
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and being like, go find me a whore that's missing
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a leg and an eye, right? Like, I want your, like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the most damaged goods that you have. And that was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: actually things that he was doing on his own accord.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think that there was like, hey, I'm going
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to do this for the shock value. Like, he actually
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just wanted to experience shock. everything that life had to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: offer the good and the bad. So it's, it's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: wild way. Again, a crazy thinking. This is an 1890s
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and this guy's doing all this.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: So.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: This is where when he gets introduced to Golden Dawn,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: he gets another name. This is Brother Perturabo becomes his
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like Golden Dawn name. And that's also the name of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: one of his biographies is Perturabo. So he learns that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: when he gets into this Golden Dawn, that there's an
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: outer order and there's this inner order. And as soon
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: as he knows there's an inner order, he's like, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to be stuck in this outer order crap.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Like I'm inner order material. So that's all he focuses on.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And apparently you're supposed to wait seven months in order
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to become invited into the inner order. And he was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: not patient. So he was like demanding that he get
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: led into this inner order almost immediately. And there's some
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: interesting quotes here where they know the guy acting as
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Crowley in this documentary, which again is very jarring, but
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: it's like... he says that there were no real rituals,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: just the names of angels and demons, which can be invoked.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And that was his Bay. And I can imagine Crowley
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: going into this organization where it's like, Oh no, you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: got to learn these chants. You got to wear this robe.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You got to memorize these things. You got to do
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a little dance. And he's like, bro, we don't need rituals.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Like you're just reciting names of angels and demons. Let's
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: just skip to that part. I can imagine that causing,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, like, like rife in a little bit of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that community.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I kind of got the feel of that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: He's kind of like a polarizing figure and he's like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking, but like, I think he, at that time
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: and he's like, no, I'm taking over bro. And once
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: he saw something, it's like, he's not letting go. Like
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: he has that. His determination that he's going to see
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: this through any means necessary, whether it's like, hey, you're
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: just going to let me in or I'm going to
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: figure out a way to take this over and it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: going to be mine and it's no longer.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yours because he has that trust fund.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm above you mentality as he can also gauge
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: and see what the people are feeling because he's in
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: the alley screwing every like common prostitute.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: But then he's.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: He's in these upper echelon fields where he's like, look, bro,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I can get what I want. And he has that
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: in throughout his life. And he pushes his way to me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: How I took it is like, he's pushing his way
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: into it. Like, no, we're not doing it. This is
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: the way we're doing it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: You guys are doing it wrong. I know the right way.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And to, in order for him to not have to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: wait that seven months to get from the outer order
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to the inner order and the golden Dawn, he finds
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: one of the golden Dawn members. That's a heroin addict.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That's like in need of money that you mentioned. So
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he comes up with this like under the table arrangement
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, bro, if you teach me like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the black magic of the golden dawn, like all the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: stuff that they keep for the inner order, because the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: guy that he's talking to is in the inner order.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: He's like, I'll give you all the money and all
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the heroin that, you know, you can basically handle. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they come up with this back alley deal of I'll
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: give you money and drugs. You give me black magic.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And what's interesting is that none of this was illegal
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: at the time. All these drugs and heroin and cocaine
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and all that, that was illegal. You could get this
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: if you had the money for it. But what wasn't
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: legal was that they were also doing gay stuff together.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So at a certain point, I guess, doing a bunch
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of drugs and black magic and wearing robes. some of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the neighbors actually told the police like, Hey, there's these
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: guys doing a bunch of gay stuff over here. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the police are out looking for Crowley because they got
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a tip that he's gay. Not that they're doing black magic,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: not that they're doing drugs, just like, Hey, these dudes
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: are kissing. So go arrest them. So he ends up like, okay,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I need to get out of here. He buys this
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: bullskin house, which looks over Lake Loch Ness, the whole
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole. We can go on for like four hours
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: on just the Loch Ness monster and bullskin house. So
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: he learns all this black magic from Golden Dawn by
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: exchanging it for drugs, money, and sex. Then he buys
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: this bullskin house, and now he wants to do this
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: ritual called the Abramelin Ritual, which is why he buys
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: this particular house, because in order to do the ritual,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you have to be by a body of water. There's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: all these requirements, and apparently that house filled all of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: those different requirements. So this is where they start talking
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: about around this time, He couldn't get turned on unless
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: something horrible was happening in his presence. And this is
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: when he starts specifically going out and hiring disfigured and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: mutilated prostitutes, just like a thing that he does kind
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of for fun on the side. He can't he can't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: do anything vanilla at this point.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: It's almost like you go so edgelord, you can't come back, right?
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Like you've done, I don't know if you've ever seen
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that South Park episode where like the power goes.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Out, the internet goes out and then they're like, oh man.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: And then Stan's dad, Marshy, he can't get off with
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: his wife.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: And then finally, there's this computer. They're in this army
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: tank camp. And he's in there. And he's just like, rah, rah, rah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: And he finally can get in. He just jizzes everywhere.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: But that's kind of what the feel I got of.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Where he's just gone so far down the rabbit hole,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: which people say that he's like, I've done everything. Because
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: he's trying to accomplish. And now he's like, I need
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: something crazier. He's like, got anything with no eyes and
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: one leg? And that's crazy to me. That means you've
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: gone a little over the deep end.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And over the deep end, this is also around the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: same time that he claims to be able to turn invisible,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like Harry Potter style, that he has perfected whatever golden
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: dawn magic that he was after. And he founds this
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: new thing called the lamp of the invisible light. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: this is his one of his first attempts at making
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: his own secret society. So in exchange for membership, for
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: someone else to join his lamp of invisible light, he
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: gets granted 33rd degree Scottish right membership. So now we're
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: like trading member, like, Hey, I run a secret society.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: You run a secret society. Let's just both be in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: each other's groups. And like you fast track me to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the top, I'll fast track you to the top. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: he starts doing these kinds of, uh, like deals with
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: people that he starts bringing. This is like, all of
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: these things sound so disjointed, but that's like, he's just
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: doing all of these things all the time. So after
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he creates the lamp of invisible light and claims he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: can turn invisible and then becomes a 33rd degree Scottish, right?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Then he's bringing girls into the King's chamber and the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: great pyramid and having like orgies with them. Um, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: then with one of these, a girl, her name was Rose.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: He starts calling himself Prince Clifton, Kyoa Khan and he
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: starts wearing a turban encrusted with diamonds and they wear
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: silk robes and they have themselves driven all over the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: place by carriage and Cairo so like they start really
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: LARPing as if they are these like the actual pharaohs
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: almost right so he kind of again which is way
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: easier if you're a trust fund kid with a whole
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: bunch of money to just burn like normal people like
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: man how did he do all this well money kind
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of helps.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: And also not having reference points, right? Like when you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: having someone that's doing something that you don't, you don't know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: there's no movies, there's no like, or what there is
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: of movies.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Is very basic. There's not like, uh, CGI. There's nothing
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: that you've seen.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: So I, even like magicians, I think even what, to
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: that point, Houdini was maybe not even there yet.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Around Houdini's clothes. There's these little parlor trick stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: It was easier to fool the audience because you have
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: no reference points of anything.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: You're like, that guy can walk on water. That guy
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: can fly. Any illusion you pull off was... crazier to people.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: It's like when you show a kid nowadays like Child's Play,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I was like, dude, Chucky's crazy, bro.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: You see it now and you're like, what is this?
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: The kids laugh at it because they've seen so much
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: crazier stuff and I think that's the thing. Crowley benefited
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: off the times of being a first.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine trying to show someone an 80s horror movie. Like, man,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: this is pretty good. Look at this, man. Friday the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street. And you're showing it
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to a kid that's seen Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, put
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to a trap mumble rap remix or something where the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: blood keeps coming out. You're not going to shock these kids.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They've been so desensitized to it, right? Yes. So around
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this same time where he's dressing up as like a
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Pharaoh or in silk robes and having orgies in the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Great Pyramids, he then claims to hear the voice of Iwas,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: which is this big alien head looking dude. Again, another
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: four hour tangent. We can go on just the Iwas particular, but.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: iwas which is this alien slash demonic entity that he
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: channels tells him that there's a new age coming for
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: mankind and that crowley is going to be the one
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to initiate it because he's the special snowflake and this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: he starts transcribing all of this knowledge that iwas is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: giving him and this becomes the book of the law
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that i think crowley is probably most famous for even
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: if People don't realize that's what it is. It's the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: book of the law that he channels from Iwas. And
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: this is where do what thou wilt shall be the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: whole of the law is apparently comes from this. We
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: can go on other tangents where like the, the Abbey
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: of Thalema or something also had this phrase. There's also
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: some variations of it. They might come from like biblical sources,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Do what thou will. That is kind of
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Crowley's catchphrase now. But technically, it wasn't Crowley that said that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It was the alien that he was summoning from, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the Sirius Star System or whatever the hell it is.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Then while he's honeymooning in Cairo with Rose, the sister
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of the guy that he was also banging in college.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: She tells him about this place called the Balak Museum,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: which is now like the Egyptian Museum. And while they're
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: in there, they find this painted funerary wood stele made
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: from this priest's And the number on that steel was 666.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So like all of this was lining up and he
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: sees these things as almost like markers. Like you were
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: supposed to be here LARPing as this like Turkish, you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Grand Puba and having orgies in the Great Pyramid because
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: here's your sign, 666. Yeah, you're on the right path.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: And also the thing that I think is interesting throughout
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: this film is just the connections he made, obviously because
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: of his wealth.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: And they don't really.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: it sounds like he had a lot of money. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: don't know exactly his family, like what the origins, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: didn't get to go. I've never, they don't really specify
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: where the money was made, but it sounds like the
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: entire family was very well off. Like, cause he's continuously
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: blowing through and going through all the world with this.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: And that's how I feel like he's able to make
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: all these connections. And then when he gets that, like,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: him or, uh, his channeled alien being or demon or
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: whatever you want.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: To call it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: And it goes with the do without will. That's really
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: where he's like, Oh, this is my complete. It's like
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: he completed his cycle and he's like, okay, now I
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: can go to the next step.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Cause I have all this knowledge. And some of the
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: things I wonder if the lure.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: That they've written about him, like when we're talking about
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: the invisible cloak and stuff, like, I wonder if these
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: are like where we get, I don't know the origins.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Of it, but like the, you know, uh, what's it, the,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: the prince with no dress or the emperor with no clothes. Right.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Like it almost reminds me of that feel of where
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: like you just are tricking people, but they're so.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Stuck in the times of where we have, Oh, well
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: this rich guy knows man.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Or this guy has like stuff that we don't ever
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: heard about. Cause I could imagine that like, I've been
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: in areas through this date where you have the capability
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: of getting some kind of education. But at those times
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: I think it would be even harder to, get education
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: and learn, like not learn, but have the knowledge in
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: front of you. So I think that's why a lot
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: of this stuff was happening.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many times Crowley showed up and made
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: all these impressions on people. And they're like, man, how
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: are you just able to do anything you want? And
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I'm, you know, I'm just
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: kind of special. Like he probably didn't lead with, yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: my family kind of came from money and kind of bankroll.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So I can make a lot of mistakes and like,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it's never really a problem for me. Uh, so, so
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he ends up having a daughter with his first wife.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And this is where, just in case you're like, Oh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Alistair Crowley is the greatest thing ever. He's also kind
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of a dick. He also is, he would have been
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: canceled if this were the 21st century, but they have
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a daughter. They named the daughter. knew it ma ahathor
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: hakate sappho jezebel lilith crowley uh so they didn't like
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: this girl at all to give her such a long
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: name and she dies within two years of typhoid disease
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and i guess crowley is like really angry at the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: mom rose and blames her for the kid's death uh
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: saying that she didn't clean the bottle enough which actually
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: is a real thing. There was like something called bottle
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: death that kids would get sick from like, you know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: not having the bottle cleaned off enough. Anyways, He gets
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: mad at her. He throws her down the stairs. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I think that might have been towards the end of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that relationship. So kind of a jerk. Then he goes
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: on to scale the world's third highest mountain. And this
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: is the story that I've heard told a million different ways.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: So the superficial one is he invites a bunch of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: people to go climb a mountain with him and abandons them.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit nuanced and even a little bit
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: darker than that. So when you go and climb one
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: of these mountains, you have these porters. And the porters
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: are kind of like the horrible analogy, but like the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: taxi driver guys or like the guys that know the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: way to get you to and fro. They're the ones
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that can figure out how to get supplies. They're sort
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: of like the gatekeepers of the mountain in a way.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: You hire them to go with you on these trips
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: because if you don't have like a team going with you,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: then you can run into all kinds of problems.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: So.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: He hires all these porters to go on this, the
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: third highest mountain, and he's just mistreating them nonstop. He
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: treats them like they're basically his slaves, which I assume
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is how he probably treated everybody that unless there was
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: something from you that he wanted, but otherwise you were
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: his porter. And as they're going up the mountain, the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: conditions are getting worse and worse. And he just straight
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: up refuses to stop. And he abandons anyone that wants
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to stop and go back down because And apparently that
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he's like scared by voices that in this documentary, they
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: mentioned that it wasn't just Crowley being like, screw you guys.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm making it to the top. It's that he was
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: hearing these voices that were telling him you have to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: keep going or else. So part of it was fear.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Part of it was. his own ambition, like narcissism. But anyways,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: this story about him leaving people on this mountain, I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: believe some of them died from this, that this is
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: like one of the worst things that he's ever done.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: worse than killing the cats and other stuff. Then there's this, this,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: critical essay that was written. This is so weird, man. Again,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the jumps around a British military strategist named JFC Fuller,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: who writes something called the star in the West in 1907.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And this British military strategist basically just writes a fan
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: letter op ed style article about Alistair Crowley, praising him
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: for his poetry and his mysticism and his philosophy and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: all of this. So after this guy Fuller retires from
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the army, he turns into like this observer of Nazism.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And then he becomes a whole member of a whole
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: bunch of these different like pro-Nazi organizations, which then formed
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the British Union of Fascists and the Right Club. So anyways,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: here is where some of that connection between like Aleister
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Crowley and Nazism kind of come. It wasn't that Crowley
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: himself was a Nazi. but it's like your favorite Nazi
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: liked Crowley in a way.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe not your favorite is the wrong way to phrase that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: You know, what Crowley reminds me a lot of is
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Karl Marx, like in different senses, but like they have
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: a lot of similar paths and they have a lot
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: of fanatics that like lean towards this, like, uh, authoritarianism
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: but like in a different way they take because i
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: won't say like it's like their whole fault but they
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: take part of them and then they have this lure
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: of that these great people that like with the people
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: that follow them like when you hear about marx and
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: you hear about crowley the people that are like really
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: invested in their work are always taking out these pieces,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: but then they don't put the whole story together of like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: they're like, no, he's a great dude, man.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Just wants to like, you know, do what you want, bro.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, it's really what he's saying is live
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: your life and you take that, but then you're like, well,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: you're not talking about the trust fund part. You're not
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: talking about how he's actually just trying to find power.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Like to me, Crowley, like he wants to be this
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: like all powerful being.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: And I think he believes he can achieve that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Whether it be actually having those powers or he's delusional
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: enough to believe he can. be this or maybe he
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: did have some i'm not saying yes or no or
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: he knew that he could manipulate his way up to
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: the top and to control people and i think that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: where like i put him and mark's kind of so
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: similar and it's like not too far off the timeline.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like one of the main things too, that
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you might compare like Anton LaVey and Aleister Crowley or something,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: but the difference, I guess, in my mind after watching
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: this documentary and others is that like Crowley really was
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: about that life. Like, yeah, there's this very theatrical aesthetic
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: version of what he's doing. He knows he's freaking out
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the normies and he's, loving it but i get the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: feeling like he would be doing this anyways even if
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: there wasn't an like having an audience adds to it
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: like he likes it even more but he would still
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: be doing all this crazy stuff even if it wasn't
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: for the shock value so that like he kind of
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: stands apart in that aspect.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Well yeah and all these other people were scared to
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: show their tattoos and he's telling his mom i am
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: the beast like you know what i mean he's straight up.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah So he also like kind of like Anton LaVey
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that Crowley knew how powerful this branding and marketing was.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And he knew how to seize a moment when everyone
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: else is shocked and everyone else would be like, oh,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: my God, it's time to hide my face or be
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: more humble. He does the opposite. So there's a book
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that came out called The Magician by W. Somerset Maugham.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And when it comes out, Crowley identifies as this main
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: character in the book called The Magician, and he accuses
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: him of plagiarism. And during this accusation, which because it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: actually like becoming a fairly well-known book, Crowley uses this
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: sort of controversy to put forth a new order that
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he comes up with. with George Cecil Jones called the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Argentium Astrum, which stands for AA. So if you ever
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: see Alistair Crowley with the AA acronym right next to him,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this is part of that phase when he was in
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Argentium Astrum. So they basically put out something called the Equinox,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: which is the publication for the AA. And he starts
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: inviting people over to that Bolskin house again in 1909.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And this just kind of becomes... Kind of like a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: hate Ashbury Clinic, I think, what might be a decent
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: analogy for what the Bullskin House turns into. Then he
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: keeps just dialing it up. Every time you're like, okay,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it's not going to get crazier than this. Then Crowley
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: divorces his wife that he pushed down the stairs and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: blamed for their baby's death. She immediately goes into an
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: insane asylum for the rest of her life, which makes sense.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Then Crowley develops this new persona where he starts walking
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: around the Sahara Desert doing Enochian magic. And having his
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like male partners on a leash. So this probably is
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit weird to see out in public. Then
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: he gets accused at this point of all the different
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: AA work that he's doing and all the people he's
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: pulling into his sphere. That they're basically saying like, oh,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you were basically just stealing other people's secrets and putting
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it into your own work. Um, but essentially the, the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: big secret was to use sex magic. That was the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: big reveal. And the fact that Alistair Crowley was now
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: claiming that sex magic was a thing that he was
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: almost being accused of stealing that from elsewhere. I don't know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It almost feels like, Oh, you get to the end
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of all these rituals. I had to wait seven months
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: for this. Like I can just go out and tell people, Hey,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: sex magic. And from day one, you don't have to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: do all the rigor morale. So In addition to this,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: he's having, like, multiple relationships with women. And he has this,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: this is kind of like a funny little quote that
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the guy reenacted. And he's saying that having two women
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: will cause, two women equals jealousy. Three women means two
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of them are going to be plotting against you while
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you're with the third. But if you have four women,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: four is great. Four is a crowd because you can't
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: neglect the crowd. So it's almost like him saying like, yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you can't have one girl. You can't have two girls.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: You can't have three girls. You have to have four
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: girls because then you can ignore all four of them,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: but they'll keep themselves entertained and occupied forever. without as
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: much jealousy. So I don't know if that, if that's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: how that works out, if this is like a trick
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that he picked up from Joseph Smith and Mormonism or what.
• 44:01
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• 44:03
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• 44:12
  Speaker 1: The next one is he had an initiate into this
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: new group that he created called Raul Love Day. And the, the,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is 100% true because the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: more I looked into this, the more it seems like
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: there's also mythology and rumor where this surrounds. But anyways,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: this new initiate, Raoul Loveday, joins Aleister Crowley's new cult.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: And part of that initiation is that he drank cat
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: blood during a ritual in Sicily and he gets sick
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: from it. And I believe he dies from getting sick
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: from drinking this cat blood. So now this rumor starts
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: floating around that that a follower of Aleister Crowley died
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: from drinking cat blood during a ritual. That hits all
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: these newspaper articles, and it turns into this whole ordeal.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And of course, Crowley, in Crowley fashion, he kind of
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: leans into it. It's like, yeah, we drink cat blood
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, you might die if you join my cult. Well,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it turns out... It actually, this is like the official
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: story that Raul Loveday died from a liver infection after
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: drinking polluted spring water while he was hiking. And then
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it got, you know, transferred to the cat blood. I don't,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, potato, potato a little bit. You know what
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like if you're drinking cat blood, it probably
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: didn't help the fact that maybe you got sick from
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: water or vice versa. Like maybe if he hadn't drank
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: cat blood the night before, he could have drank that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: spring water on the hiking trip. Yeah.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: How about the spring water mixed with cat blood is
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: what caused it? Like, how did they do that autopsy?
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: They're like, this is specifically spring water. I see the
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: cat blood didn't affect whatsoever.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: A few other points, too, and this has been a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: long one because there's so many different claims in this
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: guy's life. And we're only scratching the surface that they
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: also repeat this story that I've heard so many times.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Most my favorite Crowley rumor was that in Paris, he
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: gets together with Frank Harris, a woman named Nellie O'Hara
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and another woman named Pauline Pierce. And Pauline Pierce is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: essentially the matriarch of the Bush dynasty. So this concept
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: that Alistair Crowley might actually be George Bush's father-in-law in
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a way, and that George W. Bush, his grandpa, is
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: actually Alistair Crowley because Barbara Bush's mom banged Alistair Crowley
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: in Paris in the early 1900s. Now, not to spoil
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: this too much for anyone that's like, oh, I love
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that theory. You know, that's totally this documentary presents that
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: as a real thing that potentially happened. If you look
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: into that more, though, those claims came directly from a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: April 1st, April Fool's blog post in like the late
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: 2000s that made this claim. And I'm pretty sure that
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that article was a literal April Fool's joke that published
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: on that day to just see how far the rumor
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: would go and now it's almost been ingrained where people
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: will tell me that like oh yeah bro it's totally
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: true you know bush is related to crowley like i
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: love it i love that rumor and that mythology um
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: but like i don't think it even checks out but
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: forget that i said that and yeah totally bush is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: part of the the crowley family.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: That's my favorite thing i say it all the time
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: man i'm always like hey just so you know like
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: alicia crowley's uh daughter is Barbara Bush. And so Crowley
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: is inherently related to the Bush family.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Whether I know it's true or not, it's still great
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: to say. And it fits.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Hidden treasures and overboard moments on Alice the Crowley, The
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Search of the Great Bee 666. What do you got?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Alright, I'm going to say my overboard moments real quick.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: It's just some of the, like we've alluded to, some.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Of the acting and like the, the style of the
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: documentary was unique to say the least.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I get what they were trying to do.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: And, and, and you have these like people speaking for
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Crowley and speaking for the people around.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Him that, that probably was the most overboard moment because.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: It's, Now, there is overboard moments they mention, I would say,
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: but I don't count it as an overboard moment because
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, this is more Crowley's word. So it's like
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Crowley's an overboard person. But I will say my hidden treasure,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: my favorite thing, I literally stopped and I was like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: what the heck? So after he gets caught sleeping with.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: The maid, right? The maid gets.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: He moves into his uncle's house after they say he's
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: sickly and he gets kicked out.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's like 12 or 13 at this point.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 12 or 13 or something around that age. And
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: he gets kicked out of one of the schools and
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: they say he's sickly. So they're like, we're going to
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: homeschool him. And he sleeps with like one of the
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: maids or something like that. She gets fired and then
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: she gets killed and supposedly is killed by Jack the Ripper.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, I know who Jack the Ripper is.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Now this is Crowley saying that he knows and he's
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: saying that Jack the Ripper is Robert Dawnston Stevenson or
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: something like that. And that he gave him the five
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: bloody neckties.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: That was like... I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: This is neither an absurd claim that he's making just
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: to look, which I, to, you know, kind of build
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: his character up.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: But it was just such a, like, you can't, you
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: have to go back to it. You're like, wait a second.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: And the thing is, like you said, this is not
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: even the craziest claim in the whole film.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: That's the, this one's kind of hard for like the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: hidden treasure overboard. Hidden treasure is just all of the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane things that actually happened to this guy in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: his life. Alistair Crowley, just, you can, you can fast
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: forward to any moment in this documentary. And within 30 seconds,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you're like, there's no way someone did that. And you
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: look it up. It's like, Oh, I guess he really
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: did that. So the whole thing is kind of hidden
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: treasure with all of these weird stories. The overboard though, man.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: The best way that I can summarize this, first of all,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a minute in to this, as I've taken notes, you know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: a minute into this documentary, my first note was like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I can tell this is going to be boring, which
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: is a weird thing to say about a two hour
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: documentary about Alistair Crowley, right? Because Alistair Crowley is such
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a weird, fascinating story to tell, right? But the way
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that they tell this, you couldn't make it more boring
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: or disengaging. Like the acting is horrible. All of these
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: people pretending to be Alistair Crowley and like talking in
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: first person. But they're reenacting just him sitting at a
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: table talking about this crazy stuff that he did. They're
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: not even attempting. At the very least, they could have
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: had a set that was inside the King's house. Chamber
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: in the pyramid and being like don't just stare out
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: at Sarah eat it, you know And then like look
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: at the camera again. They just kind of like lean
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: into it, but it's just I I don't know how
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you take such a fascinating concept and make it so
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: freaking boring. They toned it down in a way that
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: they didn't need to tone it down because, again, this
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: was not made for the History Channel or BBC. This
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: was made by Aleister Crowley, I guess, expert slash enthusiast,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: even though it's somewhat objective. It's not like pro or
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: against Aleister Crowley, but I don't know how you take
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: something so interesting and make it so boring. So that's
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: my overboard moment. I don't know how they did that,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: but they did it. In Search of the Great Beast
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: 666 Stick or.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Swim I think this film is interesting when you go
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: through Alex Crowley's life and everything he's done and there's
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: so many good stories crazy claims it gives you like
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: tons of rabbit holes to go down but i'm going
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: to give it a sink because i don't think they
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: really did justice to what crowley can really do i
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: feel like me and you could do a better crowley
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: uh documentary which is ai you know what i mean
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: like even just using a little ai or like even
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: like it's just the way they did it was so
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: it almost reminded me of like Crowley and the office
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: mixed together. You know how the little camera shots are like,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Hey guys.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, I know that's crazy. It's like, why would
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: he be sitting there like that?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: They didn't even like attempt to at least show us
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: maybe a recreation. It was literally, and the guy didn't
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: even look like Crowley whatsoever. Like it was just a
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: bad casting. I think the story of Crowley and I
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: can't give him credit for that. Cause it's like, well,
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: that's Crowley story. You're just telling like everything about Crowley.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: I don't give you credit for that. The way you
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: presented it was very bad.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: I give it a C.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I think maybe this won't be too much of a surprise.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I give this a sink to the acting of these
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like reenactors is high school play level, like that level of,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I guess like skill and the way that they're doing
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the voices and the set design, just everything about that.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And again, I, I can't believe you can take something
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that's so interesting and kind of present it this way.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm not really interested enough to do a full
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: two hour documentary, even using AI with Crowley. Here's the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: other thing too, is that I would afford this documentary
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit more grace if I they, if it
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: was like so ironclad and they were pointing out like
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the exact dates and names and times and all this,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and they get into some of that where they establish
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: some credibility where it seems like a regular biography. But
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: as soon as they repeated that, um, George Bush sort
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of family dynasty, Barbara Bush thing, they didn't even mention
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: that the source was a blog post from April 1st.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: So the fact that they included that in this documentary, um,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Like either they snuck it in as like a little
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: funny joke or maybe they didn't do the research enough
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: or I don't know how, but the fact that they
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: presented something that seems clearly like a funny prank slash
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: rumor in with his actual biographical facts of his life. Well,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: now I can't trust like anything they said. So, um,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I'm walking away from this thinking that they include a
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: bunch of BS just for fun or profit. The acting
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: was like subpar and it was over two hours and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I was bored within a minute in, you know, on
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a topic that I was already interested in. It was
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: just like anything they could have gotten wrong. They got wrong.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: So screw this documentary.
• 54:35
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