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Mikaela Testa Reignites Feud with Anna Paul · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Sikowsky's
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Speaker 1: faux holiday romance, Michaela Testa reignites her feud with Anna Paul,
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Speaker 1: and has Sophie Keisha caused friction at the Essendon Football Club?
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Speaker 1: But first, Summer Warne has divided opinions after revealing she
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Speaker 1: had a run-in with a so-called Karen at the Ed
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Speaker 1: Sheeran concert in Melbourne. The daughter of legendary cricketer Shane
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Speaker 1: Warne alleges an older woman poured water down her pants
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Speaker 1: because she refused to stop singing and dancing at the concert. Now,
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Speaker 1: so Summer opened up about the awkward run in on TikTok. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so Summer shared a seven minute video to her 62,000
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Speaker 1: followers detailing the encounter. And she started the video by
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Speaker 1: explaining her family's connection to Ed Sheeran. So she said,
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Speaker 1: not to be a pick me or make it all
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Speaker 1: about me, but Ed was really good friends with my dad.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Ed Sheeran and Shane Warne were friends,
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Speaker 1: but Summer spoke about how Photograph, one of Ed Sheeran's songs,
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Speaker 1: was played at Shane's private funeral and also that Ed
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Speaker 1: played at his memorial at the MCG. So it's very
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Speaker 1: clear that the family have a strong connection to Ed
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Speaker 1: and his music. Yeah, and Summer said it's always a
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Speaker 1: bit bittersweet going to his concerts because of the emotional
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Speaker 1: ties that they have to his songs and they always
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Speaker 1: wish that Shane was obviously there with them. And I'm
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Speaker 1: glad she provided that context because I think it was
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Speaker 1: important to understand the frame of mind that she was
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Speaker 1: in at this concert. Yeah. Now it was a family
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Speaker 1: affair for the Warnes. So Summer attended the concert alongside
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Speaker 1: her sister, Brooke, and also her brother, Jackson, as well
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Speaker 1: as their partners and her best friend, Charlotte. And as
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Speaker 1: you touched on Kate, Summer said that she was feeling
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Speaker 1: pretty emotional about the night, wishing her dad could be
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Speaker 1: there with them. Now Summer didn't specify whether her family
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Speaker 1: were in a special VIP area or not, but She
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Speaker 1: shared a photo which appeared to be taken from a grandstand.
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Speaker 1: So I want to point out they weren't in a
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Speaker 1: mosh pit or on the floor. That is an important
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Speaker 1: element of this story. Now, as soon as Ed started playing,
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Speaker 1: Summer and her family stood up and started singing and
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Speaker 1: dancing as you generally do at a concert. And when
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Speaker 1: the song finished, one of the girls in the row
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Speaker 1: behind them told them to sit down. Now, Summer said
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Speaker 1: she was quite shocked and glanced back and was like,
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Speaker 1: did I hear that correctly? But she chose to ignore it.
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Speaker 1: Then Shiver, which is a high energy song on Ed's album,
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Speaker 1: came on and Summer and her friends, of course, danced
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Speaker 1: and sang along. They said, you know, it's a song
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Speaker 1: that everyone gets up for. Now, during that song, another
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Speaker 1: woman in the row behind them grabbed her friend Charlotte's
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Speaker 1: arm and said, can you sit down? All these people
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Speaker 1: behind you cannot see. So again, she was shocked by
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Speaker 1: this reaction and she said to her followers in the
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Speaker 1: video that she wasn't aware of the rule that you
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Speaker 1: weren't allowed to stand up and sing and dance at
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Speaker 1: a concert. So she turned around and defended her friend
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Speaker 1: to this woman and said, we're at an effing concert,
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Speaker 1: stand up and dance. Now, after that exchange, Brooke, her
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Speaker 1: older sister, told Summer to ignore it and not create
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Speaker 1: a scene. She was obviously aware that maybe someone could
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Speaker 1: be filming this and it could be turned into something bigger. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: things escalated from that point. A third woman got involved.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what went down.
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Speaker 2: So this lady, I would say probably late 50s, 60s Karen.
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Speaker 2: I just feel this water poured in her water and she's.
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Speaker 1: Pouring it down my pants. And she's pouring it like
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Speaker 1: all over my jeans and my top. So I look
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Speaker 1: back and she's got a water bottle in her hand
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Speaker 1: that's half empty.
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Speaker 2: And I look at her and I.
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Speaker 1: Go, excuse me, did you just pour water down my back?
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Speaker 1: She goes, I don't know what you're talking about. And
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Speaker 1: at this point I'm seeing red eyes. I would be
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Speaker 1: absolutely fuming if this was me. Like I would not
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Speaker 1: have been able to hold back. I would have caused
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Speaker 1: a massive scene. I mean, this is pretty brazen, pouring
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Speaker 1: a bottle of water down someone's pants. I mean, Summer
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Speaker 1: even included a photo and it showed that there was
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Speaker 1: a large wet patch on her jeans. This wasn't just
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Speaker 1: a sprinkling of water. She poured half the bottle on her.
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Speaker 1: While I think the behavior is disgusting, I'm actually not
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Speaker 1: ultra surprised because I feel like there's a bit of
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Speaker 1: gang mentality at these type of events, particularly if people
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Speaker 1: feel they're being put out. So obviously, quite a few
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Speaker 1: spectators were like, hang on, you're blocking our view. And
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Speaker 1: I think it probably got to a point where they
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Speaker 1: were almost egging each other on. You know when someone's
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Speaker 1: doing something that's annoying you and you look at them
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Speaker 1: and then they look at– and that's why it's all escalated. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's the thing. I mean the fact that three separate
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Speaker 1: people all told Summer and her friends to sort of
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Speaker 1: sit down. It kind of does make you question how
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Speaker 1: up and about they were. But then I sort of think, well,
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Speaker 1: you're at a concert. What are you expecting? I wonder
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Speaker 1: if there was an element of that they knew who
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Speaker 1: they were and that they thought they were getting preferential treatment.
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Speaker 1: You know, you spoke about we're not sure if they
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Speaker 1: were in the VIP area. I actually don't think that
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Speaker 1: the older woman knew that it was Shane Warne's family
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Speaker 1: because I think if she did, she would have acted
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Speaker 1: completely differently. Now, after the woman poured this water down
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Speaker 1: Summer's pants, She confronted her, but the woman kept claiming
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Speaker 1: it must have been an accident and she didn't pour
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Speaker 1: any water down her. Summer said she called the woman
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Speaker 1: an effing cow and said, you're a grown-ass woman picking
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Speaker 1: on a 24-year-old girl that is trying to have fun
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Speaker 1: at a concert. I mean, good point. Do you know what?
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that Summer included what her actual reaction was. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she was pretty fired up in this video,
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Speaker 1: so you could tell that she would have been fired
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Speaker 1: up in person as well. Her sister Brooke went into
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Speaker 1: full damage control. She could see that the incident was
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Speaker 1: starting to attract a lot of attention because there were
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Speaker 1: a lot of raised voices. And she told both women
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Speaker 1: to calm down and leave it. But Summer said by
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Speaker 1: this stage, she was too far gone. She was seeing red.
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Speaker 1: She was absolutely fuming. And she ended up snapping a
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Speaker 1: photo of the woman in the crowd, which is, you
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Speaker 1: would literally do this, Kate. This would be you. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I definitely would do the same thing. I'd probably give
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Speaker 1: the woman the finger as well. We've spoken about it
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. That's just my automatic response sometimes when
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Speaker 1: people are rude and it's a terrible one to have.
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Speaker 1: And so Summer said that she was aware that she
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Speaker 1: rage baited this woman by taking the photo and she
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Speaker 1: probably made the situation 10 times worse, but she wanted
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Speaker 1: the woman to watch the video back and be ashamed
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Speaker 1: of herself. And she included the photo in this TikTok
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Speaker 1: and not to be that person, but she did look
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Speaker 1: like someone who would have a go at you at
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Speaker 1: a concert. Oh, so she actually named and shamed. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She included a photo of the one. She didn't know
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Speaker 1: her name, but there was a photo of the woman
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Speaker 1: in this video, which didn't make me laugh. So has
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Speaker 1: the woman been found? Because normally what happens is the
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Speaker 1: internet picks a side and And then they try and
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Speaker 1: locate the person. Well, I looked in the comment section
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Speaker 1: and said woman has not been located yet. But once
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Speaker 1: the woman realized that Summer had taken the photo of her,
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Speaker 1: she started to get a bit nervous. So she started
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Speaker 1: tapping Summer on the back and asking her, did you
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Speaker 1: take a photo of me? And Summer said, yes, in fact,
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Speaker 1: I did. And it was at this point that Brooke,
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Speaker 1: the older sister, had had enough. She saw the woman
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Speaker 1: touching her sister on the back and ended up yelling
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Speaker 1: at her, get your hands off my sister. And that
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Speaker 1: is when the older woman then threatened to get security
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Speaker 1: and she ended up disappearing for half an hour. See,
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Speaker 1: if I was Summer, I would have got security the
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Speaker 1: second that woman poured water on my pants. Yeah, or
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Speaker 1: laid hands on me by touching me. poking me in
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Speaker 1: the back. The difficult thing is you're still trying to
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Speaker 1: enjoy the concert at the same time. I can just
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Speaker 1: imagine these really romantic songs playing whilst this argument is
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Speaker 1: taking place. Imagine how many people's experience was interrupted by
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Speaker 1: this as well, because it would be hard to ignore.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes these things are entertaining, but if you're genuinely there
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Speaker 1: to see the artist, it probably would have ruined a
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Speaker 1: lot of people's time. Before the woman left for security though,
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Speaker 1: Summer wanted her to know exactly who she was dealing with.
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Speaker 1: So she pulled out a photo of her and Ed
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Speaker 1: at his concert from a few years ago. And she
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Speaker 1: told her, that man right there, I'm telling him everything
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Speaker 1: that just happened and you will not be allowed in
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Speaker 1: one of his concerts ever again. I'm actually quite surprised
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Speaker 1: that she shared this on social media. Well, yeah, a
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Speaker 1: couple of people were like, it's giving don't you know
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Speaker 1: who I am energy. Did she say what the woman's
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Speaker 1: reaction was when she showed her the picture of Ed?
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Speaker 1: She didn't. I wish she had shared that. Maybe she
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Speaker 1: can post a part two of this story time. As
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Speaker 1: you can imagine, though, this video elicited a huge response.
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Speaker 1: At the time of recording, it's had over 180,000 views.
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Speaker 1: And it raised a lot of questions about concert etiquette.
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Speaker 1: So there was a huge camp of people defending the
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Speaker 1: water throw, which confused me. So one user wrote, to
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Speaker 1: be completely honest, it's really annoying when you're seated at
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Speaker 1: a concert and the people in front of you stand
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Speaker 1: up and block everyone's view. If you want to stand,
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Speaker 1: buy a ticket on the floor. And that comment got
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Speaker 1: over 200 likes. I don't think that that stance is
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Speaker 1: reflective of the battles people are going through to get
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Speaker 1: tickets at the moment. It is difficult to get concert tickets.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've just recently done battle to get tickets
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Speaker 1: to Hilary Duff and you could not choose where you
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Speaker 1: wanted to be. You could only really get tickets that
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Speaker 1: were available. So a lot of the people that got
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Speaker 1: tickets to Ed Sheeran's concert that were seated probably wanted
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Speaker 1: to be in GA on the, you know, dancing and
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Speaker 1: standing up. On the other hand, though, there was a
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Speaker 1: TikTok user who provided an interesting perspective and he said
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Speaker 1: that he bought a seat because he can't stand at
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Speaker 1: a concert due to chronic pain. So he said that
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Speaker 1: when people stand up in front of him in a
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Speaker 1: seated section that costs a lot of money, it's really
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Speaker 1: disheartening and it ruins the concert for him. He said,
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Speaker 1: if you want to stand, sing and dance as a
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Speaker 1: section for that, it's called GA. Another person remarked that
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Speaker 1: everyone seems to be having this experience at the Ed
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Speaker 1: Sheeran concert. And someone pointed out that that's because Ed
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Speaker 1: Sheeran attracts such a wide range of ages and different
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Speaker 1: types of people. So there's the young party girls and
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Speaker 1: then the old Karens who want to sit down. It's tricky, though,
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Speaker 1: because I think when you go to a concert, you
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Speaker 1: expect that people are going to want to sing and dance.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people did come out in
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Speaker 1: defense of summer. One user said, aren't the rows staggered
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Speaker 1: so people behind you can see? I was standing up
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Speaker 1: the whole time. I don't pay for concerts to sit down, which, again,
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Speaker 1: is a good point. The seats are staggered. Another said
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Speaker 1: Ed literally asks people to stand, sing and dance. One
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Speaker 1: person was confused as to why Summer was sitting down
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Speaker 1: in the sort of nosebleed area if her dad was
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Speaker 1: friends with Ed Sheeran. They wrote, if you're friends with Ed,
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Speaker 1: shouldn't you be getting better tickets than just sitting in
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Speaker 1: the stands? And she replied, we were offered a suite.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a better atmosphere in the crowd,
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Speaker 1: but I was wrong. It's quite interesting because after Summer
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Speaker 1: posted this call-out video, she actually went to the Ed
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Speaker 1: Sheeran concert for a second night, but she had more
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Speaker 1: of a VIP section. I went to go back and
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Speaker 1: look at this video again, but it's actually subsequently been deleted.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact caption, but it was something
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Speaker 1: along the lines of like, well, this is much better.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she's winning herself any favors by
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Speaker 1: posting that type of content because there's been a few
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Speaker 1: comments that have stood out to me acting as if
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Speaker 1: people should be treating her better because of her connections.
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you had just put up
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, what is the concert etiquette here? Because
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Speaker 1: I was at the edge here in concert and someone
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Speaker 1: poured water over me, she probably would have got a
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Speaker 1: better reception. Yes, I was in Bali though with someone
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Speaker 1: and we may have exaggerated our relationship. Matt Zukowski has
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Speaker 1: set the record straight on a faux romance he cultivated
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Speaker 1: for a paid partnership. The awkward part is no one
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Speaker 1: was really talking about it. Kate, can you tell us more? Well,
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, Matt was in Bali and it
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Speaker 1: seemed like he was trying to bait that he was
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Speaker 1: there with someone. I mean, we spoke about it briefly
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Speaker 1: on the podcast, but we were more distracted by the
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Speaker 1: fact that he censored his Tammy tattoos. in one of
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Speaker 1: his poolside thirst traps. I mean, we did. I do
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Speaker 1: remember saying that Influencer Updates had reported that he was
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Speaker 1: out to dinner with a young attractive woman and a
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Speaker 1: cake came to the table that said congratulations or something
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Speaker 1: on it. We did mention that, but again. Not many
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Speaker 1: people were talking about it. No, no one was speculating.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to what we've seen when Tammy Hembrough was seen
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Speaker 1: with someone. Also, maybe people were trying to respect his
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Speaker 1: privacy a bit. Well, on the 19th of February, Perth
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Speaker 1: Now ran with an exclusive story reporting that Matt had
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Speaker 1: been spotted on a date with a mystery woman in Bali.
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Speaker 1: So according to the article, Matt couldn't wipe the smile
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Speaker 1: off his face as he laughed and flirted with his
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Speaker 1: blonde date over dinner. Now, similar to what Influencer Updates
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Speaker 1: AU reported, the publication said that a waiter bought out
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Speaker 1: a dessert plate with the words congratulations written in chocolate,
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Speaker 1: which they said caused speculation as to what the couple
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Speaker 1: were actually celebrating. I never saw this online at all. No, well,
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Speaker 1: they were the only publication that picked up on it.
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Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because the article was accompanied by
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Speaker 1: a photo of Matt dining at the restaurant with a
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Speaker 1: blonde woman. Now, so I need to show you this
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Speaker 1: photo to see your reaction because I personally think it's AI.
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Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who would have seen that photo would
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Speaker 1: have known that that was a setup as well. It's
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Speaker 1: just so weird because the woman's face is blurred in
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Speaker 1: this strange way. Like it looks like a stock photo. Also,
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Speaker 1: anytime there's a pat photo like that, quite often the
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Speaker 1: people have set it up. Well, even under the photo,
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Speaker 1: it says credit. Supplied. Supplied. It also doesn't look like
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Speaker 1: one of those sneaky photos that someone would have taken
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Speaker 1: on their phone at the table either. Yeah, I don't
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Speaker 1: understand because if they had done that, it would have
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Speaker 1: looked so much more realistic because as we touched on
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Speaker 1: at the start of the episode, this was all a
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Speaker 1: part of a paid promotion with Jetstar. So Matt ended
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Speaker 1: up sharing a video on his Instagram late last week
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Speaker 1: responding to this article and he started the reel out
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Speaker 1: like this. I'm going to set the record straight. This here,
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Speaker 1: we're just mates. Is it just me? Or did he
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Speaker 1: steal that line straight out of Bailey Smith's mouth from
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Speaker 1: the Carl and Jackie O show where he friend-zoned Tammy Hembrough?
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Speaker 1: Do you think he was playing on that? I reckon.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he specifically came up
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Speaker 1: with it or the people that he's working with came
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Speaker 1: up with it. They probably had a bit of a
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Speaker 1: script for him. Yeah. Well, he went on to confirm
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Speaker 1: that he was in Bali with someone, but they exaggerated
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Speaker 1: their relationship to get some free perks at dinner. Now,
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Speaker 1: this was the marketing hook to promote the fact that
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Speaker 1: Jetstar have this vacation competition going on. And he invited
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Speaker 1: people to share their best fibs that they've told to
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Speaker 1: win a free holiday. Now, I think that's top tier
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Speaker 1: from Jetstar. Yeah, I love it. I love that they
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Speaker 1: went this far. It's showing how creative people are having
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Speaker 1: to get with their pay partnerships and ads. The only
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Speaker 1: failure of this is that I think that he probably
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Speaker 1: should have teased this fake relationship a bit more on
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Speaker 1: his Instagram story instead of having the fake article in
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Speaker 1: the newspaper. Yeah, I mean, he took a lot of
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Speaker 1: photos of his meal at the restaurant. So there were
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Speaker 1: oysters and stuff, but he didn't do The thing that
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough did where you could see, remember when she
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Speaker 1: posted a photo with Bailey Smith in his hand?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It was on her leg. Like he needed something like
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Speaker 1: that to create a bit more speculation. So the execution
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Speaker 1: wasn't 100%, but I actually really liked this paid promotion.
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Speaker 1: And at the time of recording, the reels had over
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Speaker 1: 94,000 views. The only thing is next time he gets
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Speaker 1: funny about people speculating about his private life or you know,
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Speaker 1: taking things a step too far? Does he not really
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Speaker 1: have a leg to stand on considering he was happy
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Speaker 1: to do it just to get paid? I don't think
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Speaker 1: Matt's ever had a leg to stand on considering he's
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Speaker 1: got a podcast that's about relationships. So I actually think
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Speaker 1: this was completely fine on his behalf. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: got really good feedback. Someone said, Matt, this is top
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Speaker 1: tier advertising. There wasn't any negative comments. I think people
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Speaker 1: saw it for what it was, a bit of a laugh. Also,
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Speaker 1: the public perception of him has completely changed and people
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Speaker 1: think he's, I don't want to say Australia's sweetheart, but
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Speaker 1: he seems to be, you know, obviously a puppy dog energy.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of older people now who watched I'm
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Speaker 1: a Celeb who know who he is and think he's
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Speaker 1: this lovely boy. I wonder if Jetstar paid Perth now
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Speaker 1: to run the article. That's what I want to know.
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Speaker 1: I think they did. And I'm wondering also if they
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Speaker 1: got inspiration from Tammy and Bailey Smith's Tinder promotion. This
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Speaker 1: is just upping paid partnerships though, like upping the game
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Speaker 1: with them. I feel like we've got to be on guard.
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Speaker 1: There's so many influencers who were trying to trick their audience.
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Speaker 1: Ever since Indie Clinton partnered with TBH, where she pretended
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Speaker 1: that she was working an office job. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: saw Jazz Hands and her friends pretend that they were
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Speaker 1: having some feud recently as well. Like, well, it just
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Speaker 1: shows that it's consumers of social media content. They're not
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Speaker 1: happy with just someone jumping in saying, oh, this is
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Speaker 1: the skincare I use. Like brands and influencers have to
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Speaker 1: be a lot more clever. And if they're able to
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Speaker 1: generate media attention as well, it's even better.
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Speaker 2: When I told you guys that Annapool lets her brother
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Speaker 2: film her spicy content, I wasn't lying despite what she says.
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Speaker 1: Michaela Testa has reignited her feud with Anna Paul a
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Speaker 1: year after it nearly broke the internet. The outspoken influencer
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Speaker 1: accused her former sister-in-law of getting her Instagram account banned
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Speaker 1: after she aired some disturbing audio from their past OnlyFans collab. Kate,
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Speaker 1: can you tell us more? Well, the truce between the
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Speaker 1: former best friends is now over after Michaela shared audio
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Speaker 1: from an explicit video she appeared in alongside Anna Paul. Now,
16:17
Speaker 1: the vision resurfaced on Reddit two weeks ago and was
16:20
Speaker 1: posted by an anonymous user who claimed the video was
16:24
Speaker 1: still available for purchase on Anna Paul's OnlyFans account. So
16:27
Speaker 1: we believe that is just some anonymous person who decided
16:31
Speaker 1: to get involved or whether it was someone from Michaela's
16:33
Speaker 1: camp who planted the video. No, I genuinely think it
16:36
Speaker 1: was legit because this was posted in Anna Paul's snark Reddit.
16:40
Speaker 1: People are very invested in that story. I mean, you
16:43
Speaker 1: can see why someone would want to be anonymous about
16:45
Speaker 1: it though. You probably don't want to be putting out
16:46
Speaker 1: there necessarily who you subscribe to on OnlyFans. Here's an
16:49
Speaker 1: old video I found. Yeah, it's quite private. Now, the
16:53
Speaker 1: reason why Michaela Testa was so interested in the vision
16:56
Speaker 1: is because it seemingly proves her claim that her former boyfriend,
17:00
Speaker 1: Addis Poole, was involved in filming his own sister, Anna
17:04
Speaker 1: Poole's explicit OnlyFans content. Now, Michaela made those claims this
17:08
Speaker 1: time last year as part of her monumental takedown of
17:11
Speaker 1: the Paul family. Side note, isn't that wild that that
17:14
Speaker 1: was a year ago? I remember like almost writing a
17:16
Speaker 1: thesis on that topic, the amount that we covered that. Yeah,
17:19
Speaker 1: and then became the Tammy Hembrough thesis. And yeah, it
17:22
Speaker 1: does actually feel like quite some time ago now that
17:25
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. Now for full transparency, I haven't
17:28
Speaker 1: actually viewed the content. It has been removed from Reddit.
17:31
Speaker 1: I have heard the snippet of audio from the video though,
17:34
Speaker 1: because it's still available on Michaela's TikTok. And I have
17:37
Speaker 1: to say the voice of the man directing behind the
17:40
Speaker 1: camera does sound like Addis Paul. As for the vision,
17:44
Speaker 1: this is what Michaela said about it. Someone bought a
17:47
Speaker 1: video off her site yesterday. Yesterday of me and her.
17:51
Speaker 1: Her brother is clearly speaking in the video. We're both
17:55
Speaker 1: bare chested. Nothing, nothing, nothing. And it's a collaboration video, babes.
18:03
Speaker 1: You know what that is.
18:04
Speaker 2: She's directing me what to do in the video while
18:06
Speaker 2: her brother's like, yep, all good to go.
18:08
Speaker 1: One minute, 17 seconds.
18:10
Speaker 2: She's jiggling.
18:12
Speaker 1: Don't close on me. Now, multiple people who watched this
18:16
Speaker 1: video on Reddit before it was deleted backed up Michaela's
18:20
Speaker 1: claims about the vision. They said this is what happened
18:23
Speaker 1: in it. How did Anna not demand someone in her
18:26
Speaker 1: team do a full audit of her videos and at
18:28
Speaker 1: least remove the ones that Michaela Tester is in or
18:31
Speaker 1: the ones that her brother is in the background of clearly? Oh,
18:34
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I mean, they've had a lot
18:37
Speaker 1: of time. They've had a year to go through the content.
18:39
Speaker 1: The fact that it's still for sale is not a
18:41
Speaker 1: good look, particularly because Michaela Tester is not earning anything
18:44
Speaker 1: off it. My only thought is perhaps after Michaela completely
18:48
Speaker 1: cancelled Anna Paul, she thought, well, this is my only
18:51
Speaker 1: revenue stream. That video is probably going to be downloaded
18:54
Speaker 1: a lot of times by people. I'm going to just
18:55
Speaker 1: make money off it. I may as well keep it up.
18:57
Speaker 1: At first, I was surprised it's taken a whole year
18:59
Speaker 1: for someone to notice Anna Paul's voice in the background
19:02
Speaker 1: and make it public. But then I'm like, hang on.
19:04
Speaker 1: The people who are buying Anna Paul's videos probably don't
19:07
Speaker 1: really care about the internet drama. They're looking at it
19:10
Speaker 1: for a very different reason. Some guy is just listening
19:12
Speaker 1: to it and then, hold on a second. Who is
19:14
Speaker 1: this voice in the background? My first reaction when Michaela
19:17
Speaker 1: made these allegations a year ago was, How did she
19:20
Speaker 1: not think it was weird in the moment that her
19:23
Speaker 1: boyfriend was filming his sister's spicy content with her in
19:27
Speaker 1: it as well? Now, fortunately, she addressed this in the
19:30
Speaker 1: recent TikTok and it turns out she did think it
19:33
Speaker 1: was weird. Let's take a listen. I did think it
19:36
Speaker 1: was weird in the moment.
19:37
Speaker 2: I did think it was weird, but he would gaslight
19:40
Speaker 2: me into thinking, oh, it's normal and we're German.
19:42
Speaker 1: We're German? I don't know if being German is quite
19:45
Speaker 1: an excuse for it. As someone with the last name Torva. Yeah,
19:49
Speaker 1: we've got German halogen. what that means yeah it does
19:52
Speaker 1: turn out that anna paul's ex long-term boyfriend glenn thompson
19:55
Speaker 1: also allegedly thought it was weird in the comment section
19:58
Speaker 1: on the video michaela wrote glenn expressed his concerns too
20:01
Speaker 1: as did i they would both say they were just
20:04
Speaker 1: european and that's normal To me, they would pile on
20:06
Speaker 1: Glenn behind his back, calling him weird for even thinking
20:09
Speaker 1: that way. The absolute gaslighting. It's like, oh, no, it's
20:11
Speaker 1: weird of you guys to think anything. No, it is
20:14
Speaker 1: weird of you to be filming your sister's OnlyFans content.
20:16
Speaker 1: It's bizarre. The only normal reaction from a brother when
20:19
Speaker 1: they see their sister in bathers or, I assume, underwear
20:22
Speaker 1: is yuck. And to... pretend to vomit so if you
20:24
Speaker 1: hate to break it to you but anna was not
20:26
Speaker 1: in bathers in this clip she and michaela tester both
20:29
Speaker 1: had their boobs out now late last week this feud
20:31
Speaker 1: intensified even further when michaela accused anna of getting her
20:35
Speaker 1: instagram account bad so michaela revealed her account had been
20:39
Speaker 1: permanently disabled for apparent fraud and deception it is the
20:43
Speaker 1: second time that michaela has lost an instagram account with
20:46
Speaker 1: almost a million followers Back in 2020, her Instagram account
20:50
Speaker 1: was disabled after someone allegedly stole her username and imitated her. Yeah,
20:54
Speaker 1: and Michaela wasn't able to set up a new account
20:57
Speaker 1: under her original name until 2022 after a fan returned it.
21:01
Speaker 1: So she worked really hard over the last four years
21:04
Speaker 1: to gain her followers back. She had 980,000 followers at
21:08
Speaker 1: the time her account got disabled again, which was earlier
21:11
Speaker 1: this month. This time around, Instagram flagged Michaela's account for
21:15
Speaker 1: fraud and deception, but Michaela denies any wrongdoing and instead
21:19
Speaker 1: blamed what she calls a corrupt industry. Now, while she
21:23
Speaker 1: didn't name Anna Paul outright, she dropped enough clues to
21:26
Speaker 1: know who she was talking about. Let's take a listen
21:28
Speaker 1: to what she said. Like they've banned me for fraud
21:31
Speaker 1: and deception. What fraud and what deception, babes? Because I
21:36
Speaker 1: know a lot of fraud and I know a lot
21:38
Speaker 1: of deception and it's not over here. You're after the
21:41
Speaker 1: wrong guy. Now, it got messier because Michaela went on
21:45
Speaker 1: to say that she's not the one who lures fans
21:47
Speaker 1: to her spicy site through incentive scams, nor is she
21:51
Speaker 1: the one who makes her brother date women so he
21:53
Speaker 1: can make 50% of their income disappear. Now, they were
21:56
Speaker 1: two of the claims that Michaela made against Anna and
21:59
Speaker 1: Addis last year, which they denied. As to how her
22:02
Speaker 1: account got shut down, Michaela believes it was a targeted
22:05
Speaker 1: attack on her. She said she didn't blame Instagram, but
22:09
Speaker 1: instead those who either paid for bots to wreak havoc
22:11
Speaker 1: on her account Interestingly, last year during her tell-all on
22:15
Speaker 1: the polls, Michaela spoke in depth about how Anna and
22:18
Speaker 1: Addis would pay to send bots to people's accounts. I
22:21
Speaker 1: need to point out they were unproven allegations that Anna
22:25
Speaker 1: and Addis were yet to speak on. It really got
22:27
Speaker 1: me thinking that this must be a thing that people
22:29
Speaker 1: do because a lot of influencers have lost their accounts
22:32
Speaker 1: when they've had a massive amount of people following them.
22:35
Speaker 1: I mean, Sky Wheatley always seems to be kicked off
22:37
Speaker 1: her TikTok. Playing devil's advocate here. Do we think that
22:40
Speaker 1: Michaela is trying to reignite this feud so that she
22:43
Speaker 1: becomes more relevant? Because obviously she was most spoken about
22:48
Speaker 1: influencer at the start of last year. That sort of
22:52
Speaker 1: waned off a little bit. It seems like people are
22:54
Speaker 1: only interested when she speaks about the polls. I think
22:56
Speaker 1: it's more a case of something shit has happened to her,
22:59
Speaker 1: but she's strategically using it to her advantage. I mean,
23:03
Speaker 1: fortunately she got her Instagram account back on Saturday and
23:07
Speaker 1: She has yet to speak about how she managed to
23:09
Speaker 1: get her account reactivated, but she had a special update.
23:12
Speaker 1: So on her story, she announced that the podcast she
23:15
Speaker 1: launched last year to call out the Paul family is
23:18
Speaker 1: back for another season. So she shared a screenshot of
23:21
Speaker 1: her unsaid podcast Instagram account with the caption, peep the
23:24
Speaker 1: new host so excited and tagged her best friend Bailey. Now,
23:29
Speaker 1: Michaela actually hosted the first season by herself. Initially, she
23:33
Speaker 1: was going to be joined by her then best friend
23:35
Speaker 1: and assistant, Alice McKenzie. However, they had a falling out
23:38
Speaker 1: and Alice is now friends with Anna. Do we reckon
23:41
Speaker 1: she's going to steer clear of talking about the pools?
23:43
Speaker 1: I mean, On her last episode of her podcast, she
23:45
Speaker 1: said that was it for her. She's not speaking about
23:47
Speaker 1: them again. But it seems like she has reignited this
23:49
Speaker 1: feud for a reason. I mean, based off her recent actions,
23:51
Speaker 1: it sounds like she has more to say about them.
23:54
Speaker 1: I mean, would you listen if she didn't talk about
23:56
Speaker 1: the Pauls? Because personally, I probably wouldn't. But I think
23:58
Speaker 1: people have lost interest in the Paul saga. I think
24:01
Speaker 1: that's been and gone. I think she needs to talk
24:03
Speaker 1: about something new in order for people to actually tune in.
24:06
Speaker 1: I mean, she has a pretty interesting life. I mean,
24:07
Speaker 1: I think there's lots of things that she could talk about. Yeah,
24:11
Speaker 1: I think that maybe she's used this Paul drama as
24:13
Speaker 1: a hook to get people interested in again, but it's
24:15
Speaker 1: going to be about other things as well.
24:18
Speaker 2: I always had this thing with partners that I want
24:20
Speaker 2: to save you, like I'll look after you.
24:23
Speaker 1: Speculation is mounting that Sophie Keisha's back-to-back relationships with two
24:27
Speaker 1: Essendon footballers created friction behind the scenes. The pyjama entrepreneur
24:33
Speaker 1: dated defender Sophie van der Heuvel before moving on with
24:35
Speaker 1: her teammate Maddie Prespakis. Now, Sophie spoke about the complicated
24:40
Speaker 1: relationship timeline on the Inherited podcast. Can you tell us
24:43
Speaker 1: more about it? It's so funny because there's so many
24:45
Speaker 1: Sophies going on in this topic, including myself. Now, before
24:49
Speaker 1: we get into it, I want to point out that
24:51
Speaker 1: Sophie Keisha never explicitly named Sophie van der Heuvel in
24:55
Speaker 1: this interview. But for anyone who knows the relationship timeline,
24:59
Speaker 1: it was very obvious who she was speaking about. Now,
25:03
Speaker 1: she reportedly started dating Sophie van der Heuvel two months
25:06
Speaker 1: after her engagement to basketballer Maddie Garrick ended. And listeners
25:10
Speaker 1: will remember that there was a lot of commentary around
25:13
Speaker 1: this new relationship because Sophie van der Heuvel bears a
25:16
Speaker 1: striking resemblance to Maddie. I mean, it made things very awkward.
25:19
Speaker 1: They literally look like twins. Yeah, they really did. It
25:22
Speaker 1: was clear that Sophie Keisha had a type. And the
25:24
Speaker 1: fact that she was also a sports person as well.
25:26
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh my God, this is her type to
25:28
Speaker 1: a T. Now the two Sophies kept their relationship under
25:31
Speaker 1: wraps until they were spotted together at the Sam Smith
25:34
Speaker 1: concert in Adelaide back in January 2023. How has that
25:37
Speaker 1: been three years ago? That story, that's probably one of
25:40
Speaker 1: my favourite stories that we actually covered on the podcast.
25:43
Speaker 1: We did do the story at our own detriment because
25:45
Speaker 1: I feel the SATC hates us. Or whatever, at least
25:49
Speaker 1: we're impartial. I feel like saying though, we literally promote
25:52
Speaker 1: the state all the time. Anyway, you should be allowed
25:55
Speaker 1: to pepper a bit of criticism here and there. Anyway,
25:58
Speaker 1: now Sophie was dating Sophie Vanderhoevel. She was also friends
26:02
Speaker 1: with her now girlfriend, Maddie Prespakas, who is Vanderhoevel's teammate
26:08
Speaker 1: at the Essendon Bombers. Now on the Inherited podcast, Sophie
26:11
Speaker 1: explained that Maddie pulled her aside while she was dating
26:14
Speaker 1: Sophie and said she didn't like the way she was
26:16
Speaker 1: being treated. Let's take a listen to what she said.
26:20
Speaker 2: But initially what happened with Maddie was, yeah, I was
26:22
Speaker 2: being treated very poorly again. And as a friend, she
26:26
Speaker 2: just pulled me aside alongside other friends. But Maddie was obviously,
26:30
Speaker 2: I was just drawn to her. I can't explain it.
26:32
Speaker 1: It was like, you deserve more. Oh God, surely this
26:36
Speaker 1: would have caused a bit of tension down at the
26:38
Speaker 1: footy club. Yeah. I mean, if you were Sophie van
26:40
Speaker 1: der Heuvel, I don't think you'd be particularly pleased that
26:42
Speaker 1: your teammate was essentially telling your girlfriend that you deserve more.
26:46
Speaker 1: And then a couple of months later, she's then dating
26:48
Speaker 1: your ex. You'd just be like, what is going on?
26:50
Speaker 1: It's very reminiscent of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and
26:54
Speaker 1: Lane were try and get involved in this couple's breakup
26:57
Speaker 1: because they want to date the girlfriend and the boyfriend. Yeah.
27:00
Speaker 1: They've essentially got the hots for this couple. Yeah. And
27:02
Speaker 1: they become the shoulder to cry on. And then the
27:05
Speaker 1: whole spiel is, and then you're just there. So maybe
27:09
Speaker 1: Maddie Prespekis is a Seinfeld fan. She got some inspo
27:12
Speaker 1: from that because it seems to have worked for her.
27:14
Speaker 1: It's interesting because Sophie did preface during this interview that
27:17
Speaker 1: she and Maddie spent a lot of time together just
27:19
Speaker 1: as friends. And Maddie was just always there, as you said, Kate. Now,
27:23
Speaker 1: Sophie did refer a number of times during this interview
27:26
Speaker 1: that her previous partners had been unfaithful. It's not clear
27:30
Speaker 1: which partner or partners she was referring to, but it
27:33
Speaker 1: made me think. I wonder if Maddie could have potentially
27:37
Speaker 1: squealed on Sophie van der Heuvel for doing something on
27:40
Speaker 1: a team trip or when they're out and about. I mean,
27:43
Speaker 1: that is complete speculation. There is no proof at all
27:45
Speaker 1: that that has happened, but I suppose that is the
27:47
Speaker 1: danger with Sophie Keisha putting out information like that and
27:50
Speaker 1: not being specific about who it related to because that's
27:53
Speaker 1: when the rumor mill goes into overdrive. Sophie also threw
27:56
Speaker 1: shade at Maddie Garrick in this interview. And I want
27:59
Speaker 1: to point out before we get into this section of
28:00
Speaker 1: the podcast, Because she'd date people with different names because
28:03
Speaker 1: we've got Maddie Garrick, Maddie Presspackers, then she's got Sophie
28:06
Speaker 1: Vanderhoover with the same name as her. It's all very confusing.
28:10
Speaker 1: Also the fact that the women look the same too.
28:13
Speaker 1: And the host Ruby asked Sophie, well, what makes her
28:15
Speaker 1: connection with Maddie different to the past toxic relationships she's
28:20
Speaker 1: been in? It's a bit of a loaded question. Yeah.
28:22
Speaker 1: And Sophie said that despite Maddie Presspackers being 10 years
28:25
Speaker 1: her junior, it was really refreshing to finally date someone
28:29
Speaker 1: who had their life together. Yeah. And she said that
28:31
Speaker 1: Maddie is in a great financial situation because she owns
28:34
Speaker 1: her own house and car. Let's hear more of what
28:37
Speaker 1: she said.
28:38
Speaker 2: I always had this thing with partners that I want
28:40
Speaker 2: to save you. Like, I'll look after you.
28:42
Speaker 1: Right.
28:43
Speaker 2: You know, I was in a long-term relationship with someone
28:45
Speaker 2: who did not financially contribute to one thing. I funded
28:49
Speaker 2: this person's life for years and I look back and go,
28:52
Speaker 2: you idiot. But I wanted to be that person.
28:54
Speaker 1: And save them, almost.
28:56
Speaker 2: And I'll look after you. Whether meeting Maddie, I've been like, wow,
29:00
Speaker 2: you have your own stuff. Or we can do this together.
29:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:04
Speaker 2: Because someone actually is contributing not just money, energy, time, commitment.
29:10
Speaker 1: It's half-half. It's 50-50. It's a bit underhanded, isn't it?
29:14
Speaker 1: A bit how you going? I mean, she's got to
29:16
Speaker 1: be talking about Maddie Garrick there. I mean, surely. I mean,
29:19
Speaker 1: she dated Maddie Garrick for a number of years. She's
29:21
Speaker 1: referenced the fact that she Yeah. particularly because she's saying, well,
29:31
Speaker 1: this 25 year old, she has her life together way
29:34
Speaker 1: more than you ever did. Like it's a massive burn.
29:37
Speaker 1: She also shared in this interview that she's come to
29:40
Speaker 1: the realization that she stayed in unhappy relationships and situations
29:44
Speaker 1: that weren't right for her because she wanted to make
29:46
Speaker 1: leaving her marriage worth it. Let's take a listen to
29:49
Speaker 1: more of what she said.
29:50
Speaker 2: I think I kept myself in situations that were not
29:53
Speaker 2: right for me because I needed to make leaving my
29:55
Speaker 2: marriage worth it. I needed to make completely blowing up
29:59
Speaker 2: my whole life and someone else's life worth it. So
30:02
Speaker 2: I tried so hard to make the next relationship work
30:06
Speaker 2: because so many people doubted me and thought I was
30:10
Speaker 2: an idiot and like, you're not even a lesbian. I
30:11
Speaker 2: was like, I'll prove to you I am. And like,
30:13
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it at the time. That's what I
30:15
Speaker 2: was doing. I'm able to look back now and go,
30:18
Speaker 2: you know, I proposed to someone and then I dated
30:21
Speaker 2: this person and I was flying into state to see
30:24
Speaker 2: this person and I can now go with growth and maturity.
30:27
Speaker 2: was I doing that none of them were the right
30:29
Speaker 2: place for you.
30:30
Speaker 1: I mean we've all been there once you get into
30:32
Speaker 1: a good relationship you're like what why was I putting
30:34
Speaker 1: up with that bullshit it does provide an interesting perspective
30:37
Speaker 1: because it would be so awful if people weren't taking
30:40
Speaker 1: your sexuality seriously and you felt like you had to
30:42
Speaker 1: prove that you really you made the right decision and
30:45
Speaker 1: you were really into women like that would be so
30:47
Speaker 1: tough yeah it's clear that Sophie felt like she had
30:49
Speaker 1: to prove that these relationships were legitimate which meant staying
30:53
Speaker 1: in them sadly Now, a couple of weeks ago, we
30:55
Speaker 1: reported that Sophie Keisha had officially changed her daughter's last
30:59
Speaker 1: name ahead of her first birthday. Now, she confirmed the
31:02
Speaker 1: news on the Inherited podcast saying this.
31:04
Speaker 2: I've recently changed her name to have Maddie's last name
31:08
Speaker 2: as well, legally.
31:09
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so beautiful. Yeah. You did that this year?
31:12
Speaker 1: I did that for her first birthday.
31:13
Speaker 2: I changed her name to be Maddie and my name
31:16
Speaker 2: hyphen together because she is her mum. She's been there.
31:19
Speaker 2: Maddie was the first person I ever told I was pregnant.
31:22
Speaker 2: She came to all my appointments with me. You know,
31:25
Speaker 2: she's as much of Esme's mum as I am. And yeah, now.
31:29
Speaker 1: We bought a house together.
31:31
Speaker 2: We are living life.
31:33
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's hectic.
31:34
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm sure at times it's really fucking difficult
31:37
Speaker 2: for her.
31:38
Speaker 1: But she signed up for it and she loves me.
31:41
Speaker 1: And that's all I wanted. Again, having a child has
31:45
Speaker 1: completely changed me as a person. I don't know what
31:46
Speaker 1: came over me. When Sophie was saying this, I started
31:49
Speaker 1: to feel really emotional. I'm like, oh, that's so beautiful.
31:51
Speaker 1: Like that... that Esme now has two mums and just
31:54
Speaker 1: hearing about how pivotal Maddie Prespakas had been in her
31:58
Speaker 1: life and this rock to all of them. I was like,
32:00
Speaker 1: I almost had tears in my eyes. Yeah. For people
32:03
Speaker 1: who know us, that is just not us. I've been
32:05
Speaker 1: having these situations where I've found myself close to tears at,
32:08
Speaker 1: you know, things like this that I wouldn't expect to
32:10
Speaker 1: feel emotional over. Well, on that note, before we do
32:13
Speaker 1: get too emotional, that is all we have time for today.
32:16
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode. And
32:18
Speaker 1: thank you again for all of the support on The
32:20
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32:22
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. So stay tuned for that one. We also
32:25
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32:28
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32:31
Speaker 1: She is the sister, of course, of Isabel Mathers, who
32:34
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32:36
Speaker 1: And she had a video recently go viral for all
32:40
Speaker 1: of the wrong reasons. We will be chatting about that
32:42
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32:45
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