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Sister Wives S6 E12 - Mother-in-Law Invasion · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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  Goodbye. You.
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  Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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  Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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  Just look at the mountain. That's what you saw that day.
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  Just the knife in the kidneys over.
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  All these. Years and the sacrifices that I
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  made to love you. Not to alarm anyone, but demons
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  out, it's demons out time. I happen to love when Kody says
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  demons out. So when I saw what was going to
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  happen in this episode, I had some blood flowing to somebody
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  parts and I was very excited it.
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  Was bound to happen during this episode because we are at season
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  Truly is an invasion. That quote was bound to happen
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  Convincing as always.
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  Yes, Season 6, episode 12, we're
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  the cul-de-sac and Kody is going to give us a reminder of them
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  getting into the houses, which, you know, we start so many
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  episodes of the reminder of how we got where we were, as if we
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  haven't already been on this journey plenty of times.
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  We get an aerial shot of the Brown family cul-de-sac and I
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  did note to myself the houses are huge.
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  Lots of harsh corners and large.
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  Harsh corners. I mean, there are corners, yes.
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  I don't know if we've actually
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  really, it's funny, even though we went through the journey of
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  watching the houses being built.
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  I don't know, like I've talked about, I mean, they're big ticky
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  Tan stucco houses that are large in square.
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  And Christine's has stone in the front because she spent her
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  budget on that. And Robbins has a large fountain
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  Of my sister Closet Closet.
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  Well, they're kind of recapping the whole how we got here where
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  we are thing. It was funny because there was a
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  joke about the C word for their properties, which is the
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  compound and kind of a dirty word in the whole polygamist
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  cult world. And they also refer to the Brown
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  family cul-de-sac as the polygdesac.
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  Polygdesac I was like. OK, We're really going there and
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  it was definitely worth noting
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  You're welcome. They're on the couch giving us
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  this little tidbit about how they got there yet again, and
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  Robyn has on this shiny blue top
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  The Blues don't match, not that they would have to.
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  However, the top looks very fancy.
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  It looks like it's made out of
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  homecoming ish dress would be made out of.
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  And there was a huge rhinestone gathering brooch in the middle
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  of the chest. It was a choice.
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  Sounds delightful. It was a choice.
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  She might as well have been wearing a like weird prom dress
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  over a long sleeve shirt. There is something weird when
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  you're wearing the same colors.
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  They either have to match or contrast enough where it's an
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  intentional thing, you know? And Robyn's No, she's not really
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  usual here. Well, we're having these moments
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  and they're having these back and forths.
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  There's also footage of Kody running home to home.
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  You know, he's so happy now that they're at the Plig de SAC.
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  He talks about running back and forth to these homes and how it
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  has been working out his gluteus maximus, which gives him
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  a wonderful opportunity to get up off the couch, bend over and
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  slap his dairy air as the wives are going.
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  No, please stop. No, don't do it.
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  And I was pretty happy about it because, well, I don't know if I
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  It was just a funny moment. Was it funny?
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  It was a moment. Very Kody moment, he says.
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  The Sprint is really developing my gluteus maximus.
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  The Sprint, the. Sprint.
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  OK, developing his gluteus maximus.
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  Yes, and some foreshadowing. He hasn't spent too much time
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  running around his own home because he doesn't know where
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  some of the basic features are
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  in the same space on each one of
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  know, customize a blueprint home, so.
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  And I would argue that one of the things he cannot find later
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  is something that every man in
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  it's at in their house. Oh, are you threatening his
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  status in the manosphere? I appreciate that.
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  He can't grill a steak and he doesn't know where this very
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  important part of the houses. I know where it is in people's
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  homes I don't even live in because I'm just a competent
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  person, but you know. Because God forbid a serial
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  killer come and cut your power
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  You need to know that. You need to know, you need to.
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  There's a voice over over this
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  as we're transitioning into the start of the episode, and
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  Christine says, I thought when
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  would be almost magical Pixie dust and we'd all be happy.
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  I was like, why does it have to be magical Pixie dust?
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  Christine? Why?
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  I just, I'm just getting more and more respect for her every
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  episode. I'm imagining a tiny little
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  piggy piggy fairy flying over the cul-de-sac and glittering it
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  with magical Pixie dust, trying to save them from their own
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  demise. It's very magical, really.
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  Kody talks about the goals of their upcoming family commitment
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  ceremony and cue some flashbacks
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  the last episode. Awkward scenes.
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  And I think you referenced something about how he might not
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  have even been saying commitment
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  He doesn't even come out and say
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  We find out that Sedona, this marriage retreat happened one
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  month ago. So we get a little timeline here
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  and they don't come out and say commitment ceremony.
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  They're being very obtuse about it, which is funny because they
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  ended the tell all very bluntly saying that this was going to
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  happen. And they ended the marriage
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  retreat and went into the marriage retreat by saying it
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  was all leading up to this very important thing for their
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  family, the commitment ceremony.
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  So why they don't come out and just say that again?
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  Weird choice. Yeah, I wonder if there's a tie
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  in to the notion that this was supposed to be a difference.
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  There's something about the Tell Hall in the middle of the
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  season, and why aren't they just saying there's a commitment
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  ceremony coming up? Because we already know it and
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  But that's what he all he says about it because they're going
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  still feel so separate. The adults feel so separate.
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  The kids have acclimated and adjusted to living close again,
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  but not the adults. Yeah, there's a transition from
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  these flashbacks to the marriage retreat, the awkward
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  scenes that took place during this marriage retreat.
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  And then they're on the couch and it's like we are in real
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  time now. We just have been brought to
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  current day. Kody kind of comes hot out the
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  you all even crave each other's company?
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  Was this off of something? Was did I miss something?
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  No, they kind of were just each giving their spiel about how
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  they feel now that they're in the homes.
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  And Christine says she thought magic Pixie dust was going to
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  fix it. Meri says.
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  Well, things just aren't going to change unless we really want
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  it to. Janelle flashback, find being
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  separate, find where I'm at. I'm here, I'm here.
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  And so Kody says, do we crave each other's company?
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  Do we crave being around each other?
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  And Christine says, it makes me really sad.
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  This is not what I wanted. Good Lord.
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  And when she's saying these things in these couch moments,
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  tears, if not tears welling up in her eyes.
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  And this family is so bizarre because they're all just kind
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  of, well, Janelle, of course, is just staring off into the
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  distance like she does, But everyone else is kind of just
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  glancing around, looking like maybe they care a little bit,
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  but no one's saying anything or doing anything.
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  Yet Christine and Robyn have coordinated outfits.
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  Robyn's wearing her blue get up and Christine is wearing a ombre
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  Christine feeling blue? Maybe there's?
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  I don't know if it's maybe they've been trying to do some
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  But I did notice that those two were coordinating.
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  After Christine has this confession about being really
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  sad in her life, Janelle tries to reassure her, I guess by
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  saying the good thing is we're all going to recommit to each
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  other and that's a cool thing. Christine says it's a good goal
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  and while she says it's a good goal, she looks like she's
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  possessed, like the devil and a nut job.
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  Like your youngest son looks at me when I enter a room and he
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  gets this possessed look in his face and it's like, Oh my God,
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  And that was Christine just being like, it's a good go.
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  I'm like, Oh my God, what are you doing?
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  He looks from under his eyebrows just that Chris with this snake
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  eye look. It's so ridiculous and he only
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  Only I don't know what it is. It freaks.
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  Me. He knows it fucks with you.
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  He thinks it's so funny and he's only 2 1/2 and he thinks it's
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  hilarious to mess with you. It is weird 'cause it's like he
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  did it once and I don't know if it was an accident or something
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  and he noticed. It was the reaction.
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  My reaction? I was like, don't lie, like I
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  can't look at him, but then I have to look at him 'cause he's
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  looking at me like he's needs an exorcism.
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  The worst part about this is we've had you take family photos
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  So during the family photos, yeah, it was hard to get him to
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  not do the demon look the entire session, which is just
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  fucking wonderful as a mother. That is funny, Christine tells
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  I do like the term crucial conversations.
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  I suspect I know Christine's a bit of a reader, or at least she
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  more, you know, Pixies and half animal, half humans having sex
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  she's reading, but there is a book that I read because of work
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  It kind of walks you through how to have crucial conversations
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  and how to manage your own ups and downs and feelings as you're
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  So for her to use that, I mean, I say it when I'm talking about
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  crucial conversations. I'm like, this is a crucial
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  conversation because it's important to declare that this
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  was like, she didn't just pull that up out of nowhere, I don't
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  think. Can we copyright that for a
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  future band name? Crucial conversations.
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  Some sort of emo band where I get to be Gwen Stefani like No
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  to say how old you are for our listeners, but I think you might
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  I'm going to ask Christine to be part of my band, Crucial
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  Conversations. You guys are just girls in the
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  God damn, especially you manosphere men.
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  Well, the reason that Christine is talking about crucial
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  conversations is because we are going to be talking about Leon
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  Hot off the heels of the last episode where we were talking
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  about, you know, how is it that you have not been on the same
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  page about this? You have literally 17 children.
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  Let's assume some of them are
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  going to go to college. You're going to have to talk
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  about this. So especially since Leon's
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  tuition is going to be so much
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  far, I thought, you know, Kody, these comments just make you
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  sound so smart. Everyone else is.
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  So far, you only have one kid in
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  If you're just comparing Leon's situation to Aspen, OK, I'll
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  give you some grace. But the way he was phrasing it
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  makes it seem like everyone else
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  expectations for college. And then there's Leon.
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  Out of control, Leon. And it's finally time to discuss
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  this with Leon and Aspen going
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  already have a child in college.
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  Now we're finally discussing it as the tuition is probably
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  coming due. OK.
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  You guys are so smart. Great planning.
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  Meri says that she's been comparing Westminster to UNLV
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  and Westminster is $28,000 per year and UNLV is 7400 a year.
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  With no scholarships, she makes sure to point out and a detail
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  parents, so all the adults have gathered that I don't know if
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  it's Christine's house, I don't know where they are, but they're
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  conversation. And when Meri's talking about
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  reviewing Westminster versus UNLV tuitions, she says, oh, I
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  And I'm like, you were looking last night.
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  We just saw this last episode, how you were almost, I don't
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  know, She was yelling at Kody, talking loudly at Kody, being
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  like, I have been doing these things and blah, blah, blah.
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  And it's like, I hope that when you say you were looking last
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  night, you were looking at UNLV's tuition, which we later
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  Meri's numbers. But who knows?
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  The it's just like, what do you mean you were just looking last
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  night? I thought you were helping Leon
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  with this for, you know, a long time.
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  Yeah, she calls out Kody and says you haven't been here for
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  conversations, talking about Leon and her discussing it
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  together and where's Kody been? And you're just looking last
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  night, right? That's an easy thing to do
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  without scholarships, OK? Leon has a $10,000 scholarship,
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  so $18,000 a year. OK.
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  Do you know if most scholarships are something that you get for
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  It might be a one time thing and you can reapply, I'm not sure.
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  I only received one scholarship when I went to school and it was
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  McDonald's scholarship or something.
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  And it was a one time thing, so I don't.
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  I'm unsure if this $10,000 one is annual and I highly doubt it.
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  I don't think it is. Yeah, Kody says that he will not
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  advocate for any of his children
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  He views it as slavery. We know most graduates will not
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  have a career based on their programs or majors.
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  This is why I will not support
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  They push it like crazy because this is a debt backed society.
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  You know, you can't disagree with all of his points, but I
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  just do not understand what parents think people are going
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  to do to pay for college when they don't have an education.
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  It just doesn't make any sense.
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  Kody says statistically most kids don't get a job in their
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  major or field. OK, statistically, I want to see
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  wrong. He's not.
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  But you know, he hasn't looked this up.
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  You know, he's pulling this out of his ass and using words like
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  statistically and debt based society and your major and field
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  situation. Because Robyn says, well, when
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  And he says, and they gloss over this.
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  He says not if they want support from me.
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  What does not supporting mean What you're currently doing?
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  By not supporting I mean I don't know if he means a gift of
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  money. Like if they're planning on
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  giving some money, it sounds like they might be covering
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  Logan's tuition and housing. Janelle is right now for sure.
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  So I see once again they don't have a plan, so we don't know
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  what The thing is. It gives me vibes of if you get
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  a piercing when you're in college, I'm cutting you off.
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  I'll stop paying for your college except for him.
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  It's if you take out a student loan while I'm helping pay for
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  Make it make sense. They're trying to fund their
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  college education, Sir. Well, This is why I was, I mean
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  asking about Logan's college because Kody asks Janelle what
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  but $6500 for housing and tuition.
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  So when Meri's saying 7400, I'm curious if that's just website
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  number of credits and maybe Logan's taking less credits or
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  winter semester and maybe Meri's quote was for an entire year.
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  So I'm guessing this with housing and his total so far
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  this year is that semester including housing 6500 and a
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  spring semester without housing and total semesters together
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  would be 7400. Does that make sense because
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  it's got to cost extra for the housing?
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  So this is just a portion of the year they're discussing for him?
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  which would probably be a whole year for tuition and housing
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  so. But they're not even clear on
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  it. And we're sitting here and we're
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  deadbeat losers, but intelligent deadbeat losers.
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  Oh, don't You are wearing glasses right now?
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  Maybe, but this is because of your vision.
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  You know you can't really see. God, don't quote me on saying
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  that we're intelligent. Please don't.
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  Please do not do that. But come on, how have you not
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  done this already? It's so simple.
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  I go, I don't. Get it?
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  Unfortunately, there's some conclusions we could draw easily
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  drugged through more conversation.
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  They talk about how Aspen has a car and Leon doesn't currently.
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  And Christine says on campus would Leon need a car?
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  And Meri says, I am not sending Leon to Utah without a car,
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  right? So this conversation's coming
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  up. We haven't spent money on Leon
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  for a car yet. So we have to factor into Leon's
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  tuition a car on top of it. Aspen has a car.
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  So they're trying to parse out
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  here, including car in tuition.
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  Does Leon really need a car in Utah?
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  Probably not. There's a lot of carpooling that
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  getting rides to and from places from your dormitory.
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  I remember my sister doing that freshman year.
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  My sister wasn't even allowed to have a car on campus.
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  You had to live on campus your first year.
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  You couldn't be an off. Student.
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  Housing. Yeah.
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  And I believe a car was one of the things you weren't allowed
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  allowed to have a car their first year at college?
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  Yeah, In high school, you had to
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  in your first year because they allowed priority for people
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  that were in sophomore, sophomore.
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  Junior, Sophomore. Junior.
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  But yeah, like we're. Intelligent.
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  Yeah, this is the one thing I can see about why Meri would
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  want to advocate for it is that it isn't local.
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  So for Leon to be in the northern end of a state, you
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  know, I don't know how many hours of a drive it is, but it's
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  So I don't know if that would mean more flights, you know, if
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  it's close to so I don't know where Westminster is, but if
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  it's close to Salt Lake City, then why wouldn't you fly back
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  we'll find out throughout the show she loves.
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  This bitch has spent so much time in a car it's insane.
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  But it's not unreasonable for a first year college student to go
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  Kody even says I'm not spending an overindulgent amount on
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  Leon's tuition over Aspen, and he doesn't even say on Leon's
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  tuition. He says on Leon over Aspen.
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  So he's already overindulgent the use of that word.
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  Yeah, it aligns with some of our vibes and feels from some recent
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  Remind them they are not the only fucking child, even though
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  they are in Meri's house. Yeah, that leads to the next
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  part of this conversation that gets a little contentious.
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  Kody says that perhaps Meri should take more out of her
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  budget towards Leon's college tuition.
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  This starts to get heated. He says this is a six kids
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  versus one situation and you can tell he's leading with
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  compassion. He doesn't want to bring up the
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  fact that Meri only has one child, but that is the reality
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  nester situation and one versus 6 when it comes to funding a
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  household is just completely different and Meri starts
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  getting defensive immediately. I know that.
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  Robyn even says, I think she knows that, yeah, and stands up
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  for her. This is where Kody says the line
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  if they're going into debt for paying for college.
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  And it's like, OK, well, whatever, Kody.
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  He says we will find a way if our children will start making a
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  Oh, God. And now here comes Robyn.
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  You know what? Robyn's also intelligent.
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  What are the other options? And then she starts putting up
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  Parents funding, school financial aid, scholarships and
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  student loans. Those are the four options.
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  No, Honeywell, you're a detective.
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  What's going on with this list? How can we break it apart?
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  It's so funny to me because if I were to classify this, I would
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  student loans are pretty much kind of one in the same in my
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  mind. And then parents being able to
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  I get where she's coming from here.
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  I can't drag her for it. I really can't.
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  Yeah, I mean, she's doing the noble thing.
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  She's doing the right thing by pointing out there's only so
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  many ways that you can pay for college, unless it's us or
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  scholarships. That means, you know, probably
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  off, particularly her and Kody, Meri and Kody, they are not
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  broke enough to qualify for the financial aid that Robyn's
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  probably pointing out here. You know, Pell grants and other
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  things. I mean, I shouldn't say that
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  they're not. Maybe, you know, they are used
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  Who knows, maybe they could figure it out.
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  But I, you know, it looks like there's only so many options
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  here. And and I'm going to give Robyn
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  kudos for backing up Leon here. We talked about this briefly
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  before about how eventually Meri gets a divorce from Kody to
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  adopt Robyn's children and why wasn't it discussed beforehand
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  situation. And it only comes up when it
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  comes and is pertinent to Robyn and her situation and why she
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  needs to be married to him. I don't know.
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  I do find it a little odd that they haven't had this
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  conversation previously, especially with being married to
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  It's just an odd conversation to be having for the first time and
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  that I can think of right now is that Robyn has multiple
• 27:12
  children. So if Kody marries Robyn, then
• 27:24
  would be another complication. If it really is a marriage born
• 27:29
  out of religion and commitment, why does he need to be married
• 27:37
  Yeah, he could just be divorcing Meri.
• 27:38
  You're not advocating for him to marry Robyn, Just divorce Meri.
• 27:42
  Totally.
• 27:43
  That makes sense. And Kody says again, well,
• 27:46
  there's another option. A job that pays well, hinting
• 27:51
  that the child should get a job that pays well while they're in
• 27:54
  school. And I agree with what Robyn says
• 27:57
  next. Robyn says that school is your
• 28:00
  job. When you're a student, school is
• 28:02
  your job. You should be focused on school.
• 28:05
  OK. So we're talking about a $28,000
• 28:08
  tuition base tuition. You're supposed to have a
• 28:12
  $28,000 cost as an uncollege educated 18 year old.
• 28:17
  Let's say going out of high out of high school.
• 28:20
  You're supposed to attend these classes probably full time and
• 28:24
  have $28,000 in your budget annually for tuition.
• 28:28
  This is idiotic. I I don't even know what it
• 28:30
  means. Most people if you made $100,000
• 28:33
  a year you would have a hard time paying for a $28,000
• 28:36
  expense. So I don't even know what that
• 28:38
  means. No college education.
• 28:40
  So what is Leon's? What's supposed to do here for a
• 28:43
  job that pays well to put themselves through school?
• 28:48
  It's just a logical that's why
• 28:51
  so that they can get a job that pays well.
• 28:53
  And there's an unfortunately large number of people that
• 28:56
  don't make a lot of money after going through college.
• 28:58
  So it's just the logic is lost
• 29:03
  Yeah. And now we're going to cut to
• 29:05
  the couch where Christine brings
• 29:09
  makes sense. And this is where I was jumping
• 29:11
  to earlier, but we had to go through all this other bullshit
• 29:13
  first is that they could probably put aside a bit for
• 29:16
  each child, but then the children need to work and get
• 29:20
  scholarships for the rest of their 'cause this to me makes
• 29:23
  sense. So let's say you're looking at
• 29:25
  someone like Logan and you're saying, OK, this year we know
• 29:27
  we're going to spend 10 grand on
• 29:30
  going to gift Logan $10,000 for some reason, whatever.
• 29:33
  Then when your next child comes up, you give them $10,000.
• 29:37
  Let's say you can't afford it and you do 5002 thousand.
• 29:39
  My parents did give me a fucking
• 29:41
  So, you know, whatever, whatever
• 29:44
  aside for each child. You give them that money and say
• 29:46
  the rest is on you. Sorry Bob, you're in the real
• 29:49
  world now. You're a grown up so you got to
• 29:50
  figure it out. And you know, hopefully you
• 29:52
  would approach it with more compassion.
• 29:54
  And I would argue with Co signing for student loans, but
• 29:58
  that's my own opinion. You approach each child the same
• 30:01
  way with a certain gift that you've set aside for each child
• 30:04
  and that's how you do it. That's what I would do.
• 30:06
  Yeah, almost like a dowry for a marriage that people set aside
• 30:10
  for their daughters and marriage.
• 30:11
  Oh geez. Don't worry, no.
• 30:15
  Christine says we have 17 kids, you have to work your butt off
• 30:20
  for scholarships. This is reality.
• 30:23
  When they turn 18, they're going
• 30:26
  I'm sorry, but it's true in her Christine way of saying things,
• 30:31
  and I agree. Should you be having this
• 30:34
  conversation just when they turn
• 30:36
  Probably not. Should you be having it their
• 30:39
  junior year through senior year of high school?
• 30:42
  Probably preparing them for the reality of the situation.
• 30:46
  And I do give them props because
• 30:50
  college courses as a junior in high school.
• 30:54
  So Mckelty has all of these, to be quite frank, stupid and
• 30:59
  meaningless classes under her belt that she's not going to
• 31:02
  have to pay out the ass for in
• 31:05
  high school for her. These are the things you should
• 31:08
  have been thinking about ahead
• 31:12
  children to do. And it's still strange.
• 31:14
  I know we're stuck on this and
• 31:16
  going, when are they even going to move on to the next thing?
• 31:19
  But Logan is already in school.
• 31:22
  We have a child in college and we are just having these
• 31:26
  conversations about other children.
• 31:27
  It's like when Logan went to school, did Janelle just say,
• 31:29
  oh, it's going to cost this much?
• 31:31
  And Kody said cool. And they never talked about it
• 31:35
  trigger to have the conversation?
• 31:36
  Especially since you have 16 other fucking kids.
• 31:39
  They push everything off, they do the easy way until they're
• 31:43
  fucked and have to deal with it head on.
• 31:45
  Look at the debt. Look at Robyn having to deal
• 31:48
  with her credit card debt before getting financing.
• 31:50
  She waited till the last goddamn minute.
• 31:52
  Two weeks. It was outrageous.
• 31:55
  So Meri didn't even get her house on time because she didn't
• 31:59
  Do we expect it to be any different when it comes to their
• 32:05
  Guess not. They get Leon to come over to
• 32:08
  the house to join the conversation.
• 32:11
  So we get a little bit about Leon here and why this is so
• 32:18
  important to Leon. Meri asks can you explain to us
• 32:24
  why? Why this is what you need?
• 32:28
  Leading Leon to tell their sob story and basically give them
• 32:32
  the guilt trip as to why they need to fund the schooling for
• 32:43
  want to be by my church and faith.
• 32:47
  I've been missing out for two years.
• 32:51
  I want to be in a place where people want sister wives like me
• 32:59
  I know it's a lot of money, but I, I don't know what to do when
• 33:05
  Leon arrived in the family room.
• 33:08
  I think it's important to note
• 33:09
  Robyn asks, You know, I was wondering, if we can't afford
• 33:13
  Westminster, would you be open
• 33:17
  So Robyn's trying to open up this alternative dialogue.
• 33:22
  And Leon says, I'm not staying
• 33:25
  And I just think it's important to state that because Leon has
• 33:30
  this adamacy that this is what
• 33:36
  alternatives, which is understandable when you think
• 33:40
  about being a young adult. When I was a senior in high
• 33:42
  school, I knew what the fuck I
• 33:44
  what anybody was saying to me.
• 33:46
  But it's just important to point
• 33:50
  watching Leon isn't being like, I'm going to sit here and, you
• 33:53
  know, really lean into what's going on.
• 33:55
  Leon's being like, this is what I'm doing.
• 33:57
  And yeah, I'll sit here and tell
• 34:00
  doing. So prefacing this sob story
• 34:03
  about wanting to be with their
• 34:07
  statement, you feel like this is
• 34:11
  well. There was enough pauses and
• 34:13
  enough gathering thoughts that I think it backs up their
• 34:18
  rationale and probably is a part of the picture.
• 34:21
  But I also think there might be other things happening in Leon's
• 34:29
  self discovery. I don't like what's going on
• 34:33
  here, but what's to like? Yeah, this whole spiel and the
• 34:40
  faith. I've been missing out for two
• 34:43
  years. It feels performative.
• 34:47
  Yeah. Especially like you said after
• 34:53
  Yeah. Yeah, it.
• 34:55
  You're right. There's.
• 34:55
  Some spoiled brat thing going on here, which we've experienced
• 34:58
  over and over again with Leon. But you know, Meri does come to
• 35:02
  Leon's aid by saying that she's not going to give up on making
• 35:08
  OK, then she's a mom. That's great.
• 35:10
  What I love is that Janelle hops right on and agrees and says
• 35:14
  we're going to do whatever we can to make this happen.
• 35:16
  And I thought that was great because Janelle does take the
• 35:20
  option regularly of just sitting there and staring and doing
• 35:24
  whatever. And I thought it was really
• 35:26
  great that Janelle, well, you know, she does always support
• 35:28
  the education like we talked about, at least in her talking
• 35:33
  Christine says we'll figure it
• 35:35
  out before you go so you don't
• 35:38
  you're at school. You only have to stress about
• 35:41
  your grades. Kody makes some dumb ass comment
• 35:45
  about how there's a common denominator here.
• 35:48
  These are all my kids. Really.
• 35:52
  Yeah, we're all a family. We're all their parents and we
• 35:56
  will all do whatever is necessary to get them there.
• 36:01
  Except for cosign on student loans.
• 36:03
  Yeah. All right.
• 36:05
  OK, Turkey. Now I'm recognizing I've got a,
• 36:08
  you know, fair and balanced right over here.
• 36:11
  It is a lot of people to cosign for loans for.
• 36:14
  So that is another thing, you know, it's not like he can
• 36:17
  cosign for 17 people's college, you know, debt.
• 36:21
  If he was just spiritually and
• 36:25
  mothers, the moms could cosign
• 36:28
  There you go. He wouldn't have to worry about
• 36:30
  it, He. Wouldn't have to sign a damn
• 36:32
  thing if he didn't want to. If he was really smart.
• 36:35
  Right, he. Really wanted to work the
• 36:38
  system. Oh.
• 36:39
  Kody. I don't think he would even be
• 36:42
  able to close sign on all the Student Loans.
• 36:44
  They wouldn't allow it, no. He wouldn't get approved on a
• 36:48
  certain number of the loans. So, yeah, PLC pays some bills.
• 36:52
  And then we have a seamless transition to Kody telling us
• 36:55
  about his four mother in Mothers
• 37:07
  He says this so many times during the episode and each time
• 37:11
  I'm cringing. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
• 37:14
  Mothers in law I. Know I'm going is it incorrect
• 37:18
  or not because I've never heard of mothers in law.
• 37:22
  Would it be mother in laws? I I just don't even know how you
• 37:26
  would phrase it. I've never heard anyone talk
• 37:28
  about their multiple mother in
• 37:29
  Well, the mothers would be plural.
• 37:31
  Yeah, so mothers in law. Mothers in law.
• 37:33
  I guess it's just weird to hear.
• 37:34
  It's no Meri, Meri quite contrary or sob, and Robyn does
• 37:38
  not roll off the tongue. Like Piggy Piggy Tootsie
• 37:43
  Tootsie's. Clearly, that rolled off my
• 37:46
  tongue. Oh my.
• 37:50
  God, Oh no. So of course we talk about each
• 37:52
  of the wives, mothers. So we get introduced to
• 37:54
  everyone. Some of them we've been
• 37:56
  introduced, so we're being reintroduced.
• 37:57
  We start with Meri's mother, Bonnie.
• 38:00
  She's telling Hunter how muscly he's gotten and squeezing
• 38:04
  Hunter's muscles and giving him the little Gucci goo grandma
• 38:08
  thing. It's pretty cute and he's
• 38:11
  blushing and Christine says that whenever they've wanted
• 38:15
  something out of Kody, they've all gone to Bonnie to get it out
• 38:23
  wanted. I love it.
• 38:25
  That was adorable little tidbit. His first mother-in-law, I think
• 38:32
  read or whatever, you know, he really did have a fondness for
• 38:39
  They were young, who knows, but her parents were influential in
• 38:43
  the cult and he really looked up to them.
• 38:46
  And so it is cute that Bonnie kind of has a little thumb on
• 38:50
  him or whatever you'd want to say, you know?
• 38:52
  Yeah. Have you ever had a relationship
• 38:57
  than the person you're with and it's hard to break up with them
• 39:01
  because you know you're breaking up with their family
• 39:02
  too? I have not spent a lot of time
• 39:04
  with anybody's family that I've been dating, so I haven't
• 39:07
  haven't had that experience, but
• 39:09
  happening. I wonder how this plays out for
• 39:12
  Kody after things start going South because he does seem to
• 39:18
  have an affinity for Bonnie so
• 39:23
  out. I have had a few relationships
• 39:26
  where I was sad to be cut off from the family, but you know,
• 39:32
  it is what it is. It comes with the territory of
• 39:35
  loving and hurting and. It's never stopped you from
• 39:37
  violating A protective order before.
• 39:46
  Robyn tells us that Bonnie has a
• 39:50
  marriage and has always been a
• 39:53
  She's so. Solid in her faith, we get to
• 39:57
  Janelle's mom and Janelle tells us how her mom has always been
• 40:02
  the nurse mom of the family. She could always count on her if
• 40:06
  one of her children was sick or if she needed a remedy for a
• 40:11
  child. And Cheryl is the nurse mommy of
• 40:14
  the family. She must have been the one that
• 40:17
  taught them to, you know, boil
• 40:20
  honey for when you're sick or something.
• 40:22
  No, yeah, Cheryl, you dirty dog.
• 40:26
  We hear a little back story again about how Cheryl married
• 40:39
  So as an older adult and married Cheryl before Janelle and him
• 40:43
  got married, right? But they're not siblings, OK?
• 40:47
  They're trying to call out the fact that they're not siblings.
• 40:52
  They weren't like young children
• 40:54
  living together as step siblings
• 40:56
  Something, Yeah, OK, we we get
• 41:03
  Moving on. Yeah.
• 41:05
  Friendly reminder that Cheryl went up to try to convince
• 41:08
  Janelle to not join the cult, Don't do this and then met Wynn,
• 41:13
  Kody's dad, and married him. So she went in to try to put a
• 41:18
  kibosh to it. Which also does not make sense
• 41:20
  because Janelle was married to
• 41:23
  So it none of it makes any sense.
• 41:25
  But the take away we're supposed
• 41:27
  incestuous at all that Kody married his step sister Janelle.
• 41:32
  Little bit of a Beauty and the
• 41:35
  went up there to try to save, save her daughter and look how
• 41:40
  it turned out and then her. Daughter turned into a hairy
• 41:42
  beast. Oh no, her daughter was a hairy.
• 41:44
  Beast and then. Turned into a beautiful Kody
• 41:48
  looking man Oh God. Speaking of Disney, we've got an
• 41:51
  update about Christine's mom, Annie.
• 41:54
  Annie's coming. Janelle tells us that Annie is
• 41:58
  great to talk to you because she's always uplifting, she's
• 42:01
  always positive. But unfortunately, Christine has
• 42:05
  some complicated feelings when
• 42:08
  and at least a complicated history.
• 42:11
  She tells us that when she was
• 42:15
  their cult. Even though Annie did leave, she
• 42:18
  still supports their family today though, so that's great.
• 42:21
  We're going to get some more details about that later.
• 42:24
  Unlike Annie's sister, or well, I don't know if we know which
• 42:27
  sister, It is Christine's aunt
• 42:30
  mom's. No, it is her mom's sister.
• 42:32
  Mom's sister who said that she
• 42:35
  Kristen. Yes, we haven't heard that
• 42:38
  language. No, we have not.
• 42:41
  We get to meet Robyn's beautiful
• 42:45
  Oh, beautiful. Alice has been a first and a
• 42:50
  second wife. She left Robyn's bio dad for her
• 42:54
  new dad who she claims, so she
• 43:00
  the family as far as dynamics go.
• 43:03
  Oh, of course. She's so understanding now that
• 43:06
  she's married to Robyn's step daddy.
• 43:08
  Uncle, when you said that Alice was beautiful, I agreed with
• 43:13
  you. Yeah, she's really something.
• 43:16
  She's a knockout. Stunning.
• 43:18
  I was stunned by her beauty. This whole introduction to the
• 43:23
  moms had me thinking, Christine's mom Annie looks
• 43:31
  amazing compared to these other women and she's the one that
• 43:35
  got out. Well, she is the one that got
• 43:37
  out. She's the one that got away,
• 43:39
  Yeah. She looks the youngest, she
• 43:41
  looks the hippest, she looks the
• 43:45
  She does look like the one that spent the most time in a
• 43:48
  tanning bed. True.
• 43:50
  But I agree with you overall, she's the one that you would
• 43:53
  probably gravitate to as like you're a normal person or
• 43:56
  someone. You're a cool grandma.
• 43:58
  You're not right. This.
• 44:00
  Homely looking, quintessential.
• 44:01
  What you think of when you think of a granny grandma.
• 44:06
  I don't. From a polygamous cult.
• 44:08
  Well, right, and I'm not trying to say that super derogatorily
• 44:18
  cult that they belong to, you know?
• 44:20
  Yeah, the vibes be vibing, and she's got more of the hippy,
• 44:25
  dippy, earthy vibes, as Kody would say.
• 44:28
  Kody would say that. We get introduced to Janelle
• 44:31
  again. We've met her previously.
• 44:35
  Janelle has 10 biological children born of her own womb,
• 44:48
  All the other mothers in law are
• 44:51
  coming for the weekend, and so
• 44:54
  And I just wanted to point out
• 44:58
  even though you're might be struggling with how the hell is
• 45:00
  that spelled? I believe it's GENIELLEI don't
• 45:05
  know. It's hard to, you know, decipher
• 45:07
  what's going on on the screen when you're blinded by Alice's
• 45:10
  beauty. But there's no whys.
• 45:12
  And I just wanted to point that out because you might be
• 45:14
  thinking, how does the why fit
• 45:16
  There's no whys. There's no whys.
• 45:18
  Some of these names, when I am
• 45:22
  write them incorrectly because
• 45:26
  if I don't write it the way I would imagine it to be written.
• 45:30
  Yes, I wrote Janelle in at least
• 45:34
  going to hear, like how many ES?
• 45:35
  Where are the ES? Yeah, it's a whole thing.
• 45:39
  Kody lets us know that on Sunday morning he will be making brunch
• 45:48
  He makes a comment about anyone asking for quiche.
• 45:53
  He's not sure if they'll get a quiche, but he would try.
• 45:58
  One of the activities that's going to be happening on this
• 46:02
  Mother's Day weekend is that Kody is hoping to take his four
• 46:06
  mothers in law, along with his own mother, Janelle, shopping
• 46:10
  for gifts for his beautiful wives.
• 46:13
  Oh God. What I also love about this
• 46:19
  journey into retail heaven is that Kody talks about how he has
• 46:32
  So he technically has eight mothers in law.
• 46:36
  God this plig math is tough take.
• 46:39
  That as. You I know, right?
• 46:42
  Ridiculous. OK, so.
• 46:44
  They're spending it, presumably with their biological children.
• 46:48
  As well.
• 46:50
  He makes some tasteless jokes about how he has buddies who
• 46:56
  hate their one mother-in-law, but he loves all of his equally.
• 47:03
  No, no, no, he would never tell us if he has a favorite or a
• 47:07
  least favorite. Never.
• 47:10
  It wasn't the dumbest thing he's
• 47:12
  dumb. Cut to Kody and his four mother
• 47:16
  in law's mothers in law and his mom entering a small scale
• 47:22
  Hobby Lobby looking store. They love that store.
• 47:27
  They love the vibes of these kind of stores.
• 47:29
  We have seen many scenes shot in
• 47:34
  very store. A tic tac Knick knack type of
• 47:37
  store. Faddy wack, give a dog a bone.
• 47:39
  Yeah, it's what you imagine when
• 47:46
  A lot of wood, a lot of faux barn looking decor and
• 47:53
  charcuterie. Charcuterie, fake plants, fake
• 47:59
  every. Just everything is.
• 48:00
  Yeah, Hobby Lobby meets the corner store.
• 48:04
  I feel like every small town has
• 48:09
  not going to lie, when I go to a
• 48:16
  ass through these stores as well.
• 48:18
  Yeah, it's a little downtown area.
• 48:20
  Yeah, yeah, I usually find something I don't fucking need
• 48:33
  absolutely do or do not get my way so.
• 48:37
  This was before the days of Joanna Gaines.
• 48:40
  Now today, it would be like Magnolia RIP off shit
• 48:44
  everywhere. That's what it would be.
• 48:45
  That's the vibe. True, true.
• 48:47
  This is a store of its era. Yes, it probably looks how the
• 48:57
  that's been donated like this. Yeah, totally.
• 49:00
  Yeah. Kody says it's a treacherous
• 49:04
  experience shopping for his wives.
• 49:06
  He talks about comparison being the killer of joy and giving
• 49:11
  gifts for his wives. Understandable.
• 49:13
  If you had four spouses to buy a gift for it, they probably would
• 49:21
  give it. It is what it is.
• 49:22
  You've got 4 fucking wives and
• 49:25
  Day gifts. I'm going to have something to
• 49:26
  say about that later. Oh.
• 49:28
  OK. He sees this ugly ass clock that
• 49:34
  looks like it's supposed to be
• 49:39
  hanging clock. No no no.
• 49:41
  It looks like a corner store sign hanging off of a wall.
• 49:46
  It's got a mount that makes it
• 49:50
  hang like a sign and it. Reminds me of almost like a
• 49:55
  light on a post. Like an outdoor light, but
• 49:58
  instead of there being a light, there's a clock.
• 50:00
  Is ugly as sin, and he says that
• 50:05
  He likes it a lot and he's going
• 50:08
  He is going to pick a wife to give this clock to instead of
• 50:11
  picking an individual gift for
• 50:15
  likes this clock so much. So he starts asking each of the
• 50:19
  mother-in-law mothers in laws.
• 50:23
  Mothers in law. Would this be something that
• 50:27
  Christine would like? Would this be something Robyn
• 50:31
  would like? We're going to move on.
• 50:34
  This fucking clock comes back up
• 50:36
  OK, yes it does. So moving on from this ugly ass
• 50:39
  clock for now, he moves on to his next thing, his next find.
• 50:44
  Yes. What is it?
• 50:45
  Kody comes around the corner because of course this place has
• 50:49
  to have like, rooms slash faux
• 50:52
  Whatever. There's doorways, so he comes
• 50:54
  around the corner with a sign in
• 50:58
  for Janelle, perhaps. So he's glancing at Cheryl and
• 51:02
  he shows her mom. Look at this sign and it says I
• 51:07
  kiss better than I cook. Now you would think it should
• 51:11
  say I kiss better than I cook,
• 51:15
  THENI cook and I'm going Oh my
• 51:21
  that made the sign is clever enough for it to be a play on
• 51:24
  words like you kiss and then you
• 51:27
  I kiss better than I cook. If there was a comma in there,
• 51:32
  then I would be like, yeah, that
• 51:33
  But it just literally looks like
• 51:37
  seems to notice that this is misspelled.
• 51:40
  And it is insane to me. I do think that if I ever
• 51:45
  reproduced I would be like, I need to get them into the best
• 51:47
  polygamous school I can find because these people are fucking
• 51:51
  bright. Cheryl goes maybe Kody is like,
• 52:01
  it's just means I'm complimenting or kissing.
• 52:04
  I'm not insulting or cooking. I'm just saying her kissing is
• 52:07
  really good, yeah. It's an affirmation.
• 52:11
  Cheryl looks uncomfortable. Like I don't even know how to
• 52:16
  respond to this. Cheryl literally says in a
• 52:19
  one-on-one moment with the camera I don't feel at ease with
• 52:23
  the sign. What?
• 52:28
  I don't feel at ease with the sign.
• 52:31
  Yeah, she's not feeling at ease,
• 52:34
  actually knew it was misspelt.
• 52:36
  going. Kody, you can't be getting the
• 52:38
  sign because it doesn't make any
• 52:40
  Everyone is so uncomfortable and
• 52:45
  hard. It's just shut the fuck up.
• 52:47
  Yeah, shut up. Yeah, it was a hit and a miss.
• 52:50
  Nobody likes it, No. Not Kody.
• 52:52
  We're not smelling what you're stepping in this time.
• 52:54
  Move on. But this does give us an
• 52:57
  opportunity to hear from another mother-in-law, Bonnie.
• 52:59
  She says she's always loved Kody.
• 53:03
  You know, sure, he makes mistakes, but so do her other
• 53:07
  son in laws and she still loves them.
• 53:09
  As this is happening, they transitioned to him showing her
• 53:13
  a tall photo frame thing. Once again.
• 53:16
  It's the pieces of wood with word art and then some frames
• 53:20
  that you can put photos in. It's like 3 feet tall leaning
• 53:23
  against the wall. And I think it says a smile is
• 53:32
  best thing you can wear. OK, yeah, it's supposed to be
• 53:36
  alluding to whoever is reading the sign that their smile is the
• 53:43
  What a great gift for Meri ushering towards the sign and
• 53:48
  looking at Bonnie and she's telling us about how everyone
• 53:52
  makes mistakes but she still loves them.
• 53:54
  It's. Huge, by the way, it.
• 53:55
  Is really tall. It's like it it.
• 53:57
  Would come up to my nipples if I was standing next to it and it's
• 54:06
  Used barnwood and there's more than one photo frame in it, so
• 54:17
  Yeah, yeah. No one points out how it's
• 54:20
  nipple heighted while it's on the floor, but you know, I guess
• 54:26
  Kody goes back to looking at the fucking clock.
• 54:29
  It's rearing its ugly face again, the clock face.
• 54:34
  And Kody says, I think I'm going to get the clock for Robyn.
• 54:39
  And the moms have a visceral reaction to this.
• 54:43
  Well, very muted, but visceral. The moms don't think it's fair
• 54:58
  Only briefly, he says. Are you saying I need to keep
• 55:02
  equity with all things that I get for my wives?
• 55:05
  And his mother says, I think you need to be fair.
• 55:10
  He looks genuinely shocked. He hates when his wives compare
• 55:16
  things. Yeah.
• 55:17
  Oh, comparison is the thief of joy or something like that.
• 55:22
  He says this a lot, how he hates so much that brings out the
• 55:26
  devil in his wives when they compare things.
• 55:29
  Yeah. At this point in your marriages,
• 55:47
  Not when you've seen a clock on the wall that you really like,
• 55:55
  Well, he's going to be at her house the most, so he'll get to
• 55:58
  see the clock and it'll be his and.
• 56:00
  And she'll find the perfect place for it, I'm sure.
• 56:03
  Where he'll hit his forehead on it every morning when he walks
• 56:09
  After Janelle says I think you need to be fair, he literally
• 56:14
  responds with traitor my own mother, which I did think was
• 56:17
  pretty funny because I was like, oh, that's probably something
• 56:19
  I'd say to my mom, my own mother.
• 56:21
  His mom tells a story about how he was being disobedient as a
• 56:27
  child once and he wasn't listening and he was playing
• 56:31
  around on the furnace and he ended up burning his hands on
• 56:35
  the furnace because he was not listening and being disobedient.
• 56:42
  better now with a smirk. So he's defying his mother in
• 56:47
  this moment. He says I can't worry about what
• 56:51
  one wife will think when I'm buying for another wife.
• 56:54
  That wouldn't be fair to the one
• 56:58
  Which is just ass backwards compared to what he should
• 57:01
  really be thinking, right? We're talking about Mother's
• 57:05
  Day. You have 4 wives that are all
• 57:07
  mothers. You just gave all four of these
• 57:10
  wives hideous jewelry that was
• 57:13
  other. Now it's Mother's Day.
• 57:15
  How about you pick a theme, you pick a thing and you buy
• 57:18
  similar things for these wives.
• 57:19
  It's it's not like it's an anniversary or a birthday.
• 57:22
  I could see wanting to get something special of course, for
• 57:28
  your Broads, the broad Broads he got.
• 57:30
  You know what I mean? Like it just is what it is.
• 57:32
  Like get something. It's not the right time for him
• 57:35
  to be going. I'm thinking of something
• 57:37
  special. It's like you were thinking of
• 57:39
  That's the only reason you're even wrestling with this, you
• 57:42
  idiot. I would have turned it in.
• 57:45
  Let's make it all about me. You and all your wives, what
• 57:47
  would you have done for them? Thank you, thank you.
• 57:49
  What I would have done is I would have either asked the moms
• 57:59
  Be like, these are the two I'm thinking.
• 58:01
  Which one would you pick? Like, I would have turned it
• 58:04
  into some sort of activity, but you know, they're only there
• 58:06
  with a camera crew. They only have producers.
• 58:08
  This is obviously set up as a thing.
• 58:10
  Why would you make it fun? Why would you make it
• 58:13
  interesting? Instead, Kody gets to pick out a
• 58:18
  It just makes him look so stupid because if he would have done
• 58:21
  something like what you just said, it would have been cute.
• 58:26
  differences between the wives and why they're each so special.
• 58:31
  something that's meaningless to each of them and stupid and
• 58:35
  then one thing that he likes and try to fit it to one wife.
• 58:39
  He's so fucking self-centered and it just comes up again and
• 58:43
  again. And this is yet another example,
• 58:45
  and it's Mother's Day and you're
• 58:49
  Your mother's in law about their
• 58:53
  Buying gifts for It's just he's so he's such a narcissist.
• 58:58
  Christine's mom gets frustrated with him and she starts trying
• 59:01
  to force him to decide on what
• 59:06
  she starts counting down and as she gets down to 0 she goes
• 59:10
  loser and puts an L on her forehead with the shape of the L
• 59:16
  on her forehead with her hand and calls him a loser.
• 59:18
  Yes, after she does this 5 second countdown and 54321 while
• 59:27
  he's standing there like I don't
• 59:31
  without a brain. She calls him a loser, calls him
• 59:34
  a loser again, and then she goes, I'll give you one more
• 59:37
  chance to get that sign and she goes, we're done.
• 59:41
  And I actually thought that she was maybe implying that he
• 59:46
  should just pick the sign. You know, it's a little hard to.
• 59:49
  We didn't get the back story on this sign, but it just seemed
• 59:52
  like she was trying to coach him
• 59:56
  decision and he would not follow.
• 59:57
  He could not follow he. Stood there dumbly with a blank
• 1:00:00
  look on his face and this is when we get our favorite quote
• 1:00:08
  during this moment. You go for it.
• 1:00:10
  You go for it, darling. I was touched by an Angel in
• 1:00:13
  this moment. We cut to the couch after this
• 1:00:20
  God bless you, Annie. Love you, Annie.
• 1:00:22
  And Kody says I'm like, going crazy.
• 1:00:26
  Demons out, demons out. Oh God, demons out.
• 1:00:32
  Shaking his stringy hair to and frost.
• 1:00:36
  Shaking demons out. Oh, I love it so much.
• 1:00:40
  We've had demons out at least once in this show at this point,
• 1:00:45
  And I just love it because he's trying to be silly.
• 1:00:48
  He's trying to be, oh God, I can't even believe it.
• 1:00:50
  This is so much. And I'm going, you're literally
• 1:00:54
  saying demons out like he's possessed by demons.
• 1:00:59
  I don't. Can't believe I haven't
• 1:01:01
  incorporated this into my own life.
• 1:01:03
  It's insane. I need to start saying it at
• 1:01:05
  work and at the grocery store, just wherever I go.
• 1:01:08
  Demons out. As we get to the cash register,
• 1:01:14
  I noticed we've been here before.
• 1:01:17
  Oh. Is it familiar to you?
• 1:01:21
  I think I've seen Robyn splayed across this register before
• 1:01:29
  tackling about some wait, what's that I saw on the register still
• 1:01:39
  Caramels. The Christmas caramels.
• 1:01:45
  Oh. God, those Christmas caramels.
• 1:01:52
  I want to know how much money she has spent here.
• 1:01:55
  I want to know how much time she has spent here.
• 1:01:58
  Because this is the caramel shop.
• 1:02:01
  Not a caramel shop, not a candy shop.
• 1:02:04
  She just knows that this store has caramels next to the
• 1:02:07
  register. That's how much this bitch has
• 1:02:11
  bring up his gifts and say just put it on Robyn's account.
• 1:02:15
  This poor, unfortunate store. Oh no, because they were hit by
• 1:02:21
  the Brown family curse. We zoomed in.
• 1:02:24
  We spied with our little eyes. No, I, I, well, you had to get
• 1:02:30
  I could see it from the couch. We did.
• 1:02:32
  I went. We we rolled with my glasses and
• 1:02:38
  This store was called Rod Works Las Vegas and RIP It went out of
• 1:02:53
  RIP Rod Works Las Vegas. Brown curse?
• 1:02:56
  Yes, we can't even blame 2020. We can definitely blame Kody and
• 1:03:05
  For reals, they're. Like emailing Robyn, they're
• 1:03:09
  like, we have a client list that's really just emailing
• 1:03:12
  Robyn. We've got a sale, We've got a
• 1:03:14
  sale. Oh my.
• 1:03:16
  Gosh. Jesus, I can't believe we didn't
• 1:03:23
  Not after their exclusive wholesale deal with guilt on
• 1:03:27
  Silver Lake. Silverton Silverton.
• 1:03:29
  I love how I can barely even say the name.
• 1:03:34
  After the mothers in law and Kody experienced this gift of
• 1:03:39
  retail therapy together, they head over to Market Grill Cafe.
• 1:03:43
  They're a party of 6 for lunch
• 1:03:46
  and Market Grill Cafe. If they do have a knack for
• 1:03:49
  picking up those restaurants that look like it could have
• 1:03:51
  been a tgi Friday's or a Olive
• 1:03:55
  they put up another sign and now
• 1:03:57
  It totally had that vibe. I'm just surprised it's not some
• 1:04:00
  Americanized Mexican joint. So exactly, we're at a Market
• 1:04:05
  Grill cafe this time around. Because you want to know why?
• 1:04:08
  Why these mothers in law probably don't have the knack
• 1:04:12
  for spicy foods. Oh no, you can't put too much
• 1:04:15
  spice on anything. Not even too much pepper.
• 1:04:18
  You know what I would say about Market Grill Cafe?
• 1:04:20
  It probably has a great club sandwich so high you can't put
• 1:04:25
  it in your mouth. Like so many layers of bread and
• 1:04:28
  Turkey and tomato and bacon and lettuce.
• 1:04:31
  They probably make a good Rachel
• 1:04:34
  Oh, you know, there's a good Rachel and Reuben there.
• 1:04:37
  Absolutely. On mixed rye bread.
• 1:04:40
  I know it's like I can't have my
• 1:04:43
  Need some rye bread? God.
• 1:04:46
  As they sit down for this beautiful lunch, this gives the
• 1:04:50
  mothers in law an opportunity to
• 1:04:53
  new homes and being closer together.
• 1:04:56
  Kody says the kids have adjusted quickly, but that his wives are
• 1:05:01
  still adjusting. They're trying to join their
• 1:05:05
  ideas together to make a family mission statement.
• 1:05:08
  We get a little quip sidebar here from Bonnie.
• 1:05:13
  Bonnie says I don't think people understand the responsibility a
• 1:05:18
  man takes on in plural marriage.
• 1:05:23
  Thanks for that, Bonnie. Well, after she fills her head
• 1:05:25
  with those delusions is the perception of most of the women,
• 1:05:30
  particularly someone like Bonnie, who has such a strong
• 1:05:33
  calling to the faith that the men really do have so much.
• 1:05:38
  Because I'm wondering, you know,
• 1:05:40
  Brown family, but let's say with
• 1:05:45
  wife or wives and all of their
• 1:05:49
  have one sister wife. Based on Kody's previous math,
• 1:05:52
  does she really feel like her husband has so much work and so
• 1:05:55
  much obligation more than herself?
• 1:05:58
  Does she feel as if that is a culturally wide thing that the
• 1:06:01
  men you know, do, they usually
• 1:06:06
  than Kody does? The men are supposed to be the
• 1:06:10
  leader of the family and they're
• 1:06:12
  another wife unless God tells them that they could handle
• 1:06:16
  it. And they're supposed to be the
• 1:06:23
  guiding them and getting them to their celestial place in heaven.
• 1:06:32
  believe the men are prophets, God like and carry the burden of
• 1:06:38
  the family and they are there to
• 1:06:41
  And I think they believe that the man is the keeper of the
• 1:06:47
  family and Bustin has asked for the family.
• 1:06:50
  And I think that they truly think that.
• 1:06:55
  And as we've seen over time, Kody gets out of doing his tasks
• 1:07:01
  by going house to house. So the wives have to do the
• 1:07:05
  labor on their own. I think that's probably not the
• 1:07:09
  case in a lot of households where they can't afford multiple
• 1:07:12
  homes maybe, or where the women are more subservient.
• 1:07:18
  And I feel like this is a different dynamic, which is what
• 1:07:23
  Colleen and the other ex members
• 1:07:30
  that this is detrimental to people that are still in this
• 1:07:35
  cult because you're creating this false narrative.
• 1:07:39
  And that's why they're so against the Browns and being out
• 1:07:43
  like this, because they're creating this false narrative of
• 1:07:46
  what is really, truly happening in most of these homes, right?
• 1:07:51
  You know, they're all delusional.
• 1:07:53
  So, I mean, I don't know why I'm
• 1:07:55
  around it. These people are literally all
• 1:07:56
  delusional. So they're all different sects,
• 1:07:59
  right? So each sect is slightly
• 1:08:01
  different. So broad brush strokes.
• 1:08:04
  Oh, we're broad brushing the Browns and we're broad brushing
• 1:08:07
  the AUB members. Damn.
• 1:08:09
  Bonnie also says it's important for them to all be heading in
• 1:08:12
  the same direction when talking about Kody and his wives.
• 1:08:15
  That they all need to be going
• 1:08:19
  I also thought it was funny because Kody says they're
• 1:08:21
  looking to ratify their family
• 1:08:24
  upcoming family event. Once again, not saying the
• 1:08:28
  commitment ceremony, a family event.
• 1:08:31
  And I have to give him credit for bringing another word into
• 1:08:33
  my vocabulary in a way that I never thought I could use it as
• 1:08:36
  ratify, because I'm going to have to ratify my mission
• 1:08:41
  statements more regularly. Annie starts asking some hard
• 1:08:44
  hitting questions. Annie asks what's so different,
• 1:08:49
  Why are things not working? What about the wives and the
• 1:08:52
  dynamics is not what you were expecting this to be?
• 1:08:57
  Kody says. We work together, we have a
• 1:09:01
  business together and we're raising children together and
• 1:09:06
  yet I still don't feel like we
• 1:09:10
  Now, honey, the only correction I have for you is that, he
• 1:09:12
  said. I still don't fill like we're as
• 1:09:18
  Please use the correct pronunciation of Phil.
• 1:09:21
  Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. Annie is the one here that is
• 1:09:26
  really leading with a line of questions that are probably what
• 1:09:33
  mission statement and how they are going to move forward and
• 1:09:37
  what is he expecting? And he's just given some word
• 1:09:40
  salad, blah, blah, blah. And he continues her line of
• 1:09:44
  questioning, asking are they not working on things as you
• 1:09:47
  expected? And what stood out to me in her
• 1:09:51
  questions she's asking Kody is she's framing up most of the
• 1:09:55
  questions about the wives and their relationships.
• 1:09:58
  She's talking about them. And he keeps including himself
• 1:10:07
  course. Yeah, Annie even says.
• 1:10:09
  Are they bringing up things that they thought they'd already
• 1:10:12
  worked through? Right.
• 1:10:14
  So she's bringing up, I thought that you guys had worked through
• 1:10:29
  weekend in Sedona? Yeah, they've had.
• 1:10:31
  And I'm sure Christine, you know, we're only seeing glimpses
• 1:10:37
  She knows where they are. These are the questions you
• 1:10:40
  would be asking. She seems to be like Christine
• 1:10:45
  when it comes to some of this and Christina's shared this and
• 1:10:48
  she's trying to ask the hard hitting questions and Kody does
• 1:10:52
  get real in this moment with his answer.
• 1:10:54
  He says. I don't think we're really
• 1:10:57
  dealing with our issues. Thank you for enunciating the.
• 1:11:04
  earlier. So, Siri.
• 1:11:05
  You don't think you're dealing with your issues?
• 1:11:07
  Didn't we just watch an entire episode?
• 1:11:09
  Didn't My Sister Wives podcast just come out with two fucking
• 1:11:16
  Hello. So there's obviously a
• 1:11:19
  disconnect here. That's what she's trying to get
• 1:11:21
  to Kody. He says he's more aware of it
• 1:11:25
  now with them moving close again.
• 1:11:27
  But it's always been an issue. I've always felt we aren't as
• 1:11:32
  close as we should be in Sedona. It became apparent to me that if
• 1:11:40
  Kody with facts getting real. He continues.
• 1:11:45
  I would want my wives to stay together, but I can't demand
• 1:11:49
  that. It has to be based on their own
• 1:11:53
  relationships. This was one of my favorite
• 1:11:55
  quotes of the episode and it was so honest.
• 1:11:58
  Him saying if I was to die I would want them to stay a family
• 1:12:07
  relationships. Well, it was one of the
• 1:12:09
  realizations we agreed with in the last episode.
• 1:12:12
  And he's just stating it here, hot off the heels of Annie
• 1:12:15
  asking for a little more clarification because she's
• 1:12:18
  reinstating. But now you live next to each
• 1:12:22
  other like you're so close. Wasn't this the reason you're
• 1:12:25
  together to do these things? Are you not putting the pieces
• 1:12:42
  I think you're slowly working towards that place, it just
• 1:12:50
  takes time and patience. Slow.
• 1:12:56
  And she's tearing the the fake crying.
• 1:13:01
  The fake crying and the slow talking made me think, you know,
• 1:13:10
  The apple didn't fall far from that tree.
• 1:13:12
  I love how everyone ignores her. Yes, she says this thing and
• 1:13:16
  then everything just continues because it makes no sense.
• 1:13:18
  Just like Robyn. Bonnie moves on and says you
• 1:13:22
  aren't giving yourself enough credit.
• 1:13:23
  Yeah, you have a beautiful family, a very beautiful family.
• 1:13:29
  from Kody where he says that their adult relationships could
• 1:13:33
  still be better even though he's
• 1:13:38
  Other than Annie, who's actually, you know, just asking
• 1:13:41
  normal questions, the other ones
• 1:13:44
  they're doing great. You know, your family's great,
• 1:13:47
  you have beautiful children, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:13:50
  The kind of like surface level
• 1:13:53
  someone who is questioning their
• 1:13:56
  place in life. That's the vibes.
• 1:13:58
  And he's saying, you know, our
• 1:14:02
  of suck, so at least he's acknowledging that.
• 1:14:04
  He literally says I'm looking for guidance and I think we can
• 1:14:08
  do more. And they're not giving him Jack
• 1:14:11
  shit. Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Annie is asking leading questions, trying to get more
• 1:14:16
  out of him, trying to get him to
• 1:14:20
  And these other grandma grandmas, Yeah, are grandma,
• 1:14:26
  grandma ING and just. Oh, you're doing so great.
• 1:14:31
  Oh, we couldn't ask for more, Bonnie says.
• 1:14:35
  Oh, you have a united family, the older kids.
• 1:14:40
  One of the older kids has even
• 1:14:43
  they are that the young ones are
• 1:14:47
  what they experienced in Lehigh.
• 1:14:50
  Just praising him. He's struggling here.
• 1:14:53
  He's reaching out for help, he's actually being real in this
• 1:14:58
  moment and saying what he's struggling with, and he's asking
• 1:15:23
  the God, the whatever, the prophet.
• 1:15:25
  But then I'm also curious about them being on camera and how
• 1:15:30
  comfortable they are with that. I kind of feel I got a little
• 1:15:34
  bit of a vibe of, well, we're acquiescing, we're praising you,
• 1:15:41
  I'm not sure that most of them
• 1:15:43
  are really all that comfortable with it at.
• 1:15:44
  This point, hey, guess what, we better keep sweet.
• 1:15:47
  Yes, this is it. We're keeping.
• 1:15:48
  Sweet. So there's cultural blah, blah
• 1:15:51
  blah on this, but then also I think there's a little
• 1:15:54
  production weight to it. I also didn't note any of the
• 1:15:58
  details Bonnie said after this
• 1:16:01
  younger kids at the plague cul-de-sac.
• 1:16:04
  But then I thought she might have listed a few shortcomings,
• 1:16:07
  which I thought was kind of funny, but I don't remember what
• 1:16:09
  they were. I think she just was saying you
• 1:16:12
  do have things that you need to work on.
• 1:16:14
  Everyone has things that they need to work on, but you need to
• 1:16:16
  be looking at the bigger picture
• 1:16:19
  and you're doing great. OK, Yeah.
• 1:16:21
  So she's saying, well, everybody
• 1:16:25
  on, but when you look at the grand scheme of things you're
• 1:16:28
  doing wonderful darling, wonderful.
• 1:16:29
  Even though he's kind of admitting we're kind of failing.
• 1:16:35
  We're struggling. We're struggling like.
• 1:16:38
  Yeah, it was an awkward lunch to
• 1:16:41
  It sure was. We make it to the next day
• 1:16:44
  finally, and we're at Meri's Kitchen.
• 1:16:48
  It's a Mother's Day and Kody and
• 1:16:52
  all of the mothers. Kody admits.
• 1:16:57
  I am not a cook. I'm the kind of guy that uses a
• 1:17:01
  microwave. He does say microwave.
• 1:17:07
  I'll, I'll give him that. They're all making breakfast,
• 1:17:10
  him and all the kids, and they're going to do a buffet
• 1:17:13
  style because what else would you do?
• 1:17:16
  A seated dinner and have your children serve them?
• 1:17:19
  I'm like, what are you doing here?
• 1:17:21
  Do it. A buffet.
• 1:17:22
  Kody is walking around the kitchen looking like an idiot.
• 1:17:26
  The oldest kids are doing the majority of the work, and
• 1:17:29
  there's plenty of moments that, you know, production left in
• 1:17:31
  for us to see of him. Kind of dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt,
• 1:17:33
  dirt, dirt. And as this activity is
• 1:17:36
  happening at Meri's house, the
• 1:17:41
  sitting around having a conversation.
• 1:17:44
  And he does point out to us that
• 1:17:47
  thought was interesting. There's nine moms, right?
• 1:17:50
  So they've got the four sister
• 1:17:53
  then the four mothers in law. That's a lot of moms to prepare
• 1:17:56
  some food for. I've never made Mother's Day
• 1:17:59
  brunch for 9 mothers. I think only a restaurant
• 1:18:03
  probably has. Going like, I mean, as a gay
• 1:18:06
  man, I probably would have served quiche.
• 1:18:07
  So let's be real, that's an easy
• 1:18:11
  Or you could go egg bacon. Call it quiche.
• 1:18:13
  You know, half dozen of 1/6 of
• 1:18:16
  Lots of things going on here, lots of things plugged in.
• 1:18:19
  We're making waffles, we're making pancakes, we're making
• 1:18:24
  bacon, sausage, eggs, you name
• 1:18:30
  the fan when all of a sudden they pull a fuse.
• 1:18:37
  Fuck. Well, that that's funny because
• 1:18:40
  in this show, of course, that's not what happened.
• 1:18:42
  You have Aspen going, Yeah, this
• 1:18:46
  Not on. This isn't even making anything.
• 1:18:47
  And Kody's like, he's like unplugging it.
• 1:18:51
  Look. Oh, we must have blown a fuse.
• 1:18:55
  And then as he notices, yeah, like, nothing's on and nothing's
• 1:18:57
  working because he's actually not doing anything.
• 1:18:59
  It's just all of the kids are doing all of the shit and this
• 1:19:01
  is what's so. One of the children does
• 1:19:04
  nonchalantly finds out that the plugins not working and fuse
• 1:19:08
  has been blown well. Luckily, Kody, an ever leader in
• 1:19:12
  the manosphere, decides he's going to go correct this
• 1:19:15
  problem. But where does he go?
• 1:19:17
  I. Don't know where would one find
• 1:19:18
  a fuse box. I'm not sure.
• 1:19:20
  I mean, this is the desert, there's not a basement.
• 1:19:23
  So I wonder where he starts his journey.
• 1:19:25
  Does he go to the garage? Does he go to Meri's Wet bar?
• 1:19:30
  Where do you go to find the fuse
• 1:19:33
  This bumbling idiot is going room to room looking for the
• 1:19:37
  fuse box. He does go to the garage where I
• 1:19:41
  would probably expect it to. Be that's probably the first
• 1:19:44
  place I would look to if I didn't know where the fuse box
• 1:19:45
  was in my own home. If you're anybody who owns a
• 1:19:50
  home, anybody who lives in an apartment, anyone who has
• 1:19:54
  electricity, yeah, you have to
• 1:19:59
  Is oh he is so he's so dumb. They toured these homes being
• 1:20:03
  built. How have you not even just
• 1:20:05
  casually noticed where your own fucking fuse box is?
• 1:20:09
  It's insane to me. It's not like it's going to be
• 1:20:11
  different in each home either.
• 1:20:15
  plan. They've been here.
• 1:20:16
  Well, over months, yeah. They moved in in Christmas time
• 1:20:19
  and now they're going to college.
• 1:20:21
  Oh, Mother's Day. Oh, May.
• 1:20:23
  So it's May. They've been here for multiple
• 1:20:25
  months. They've been here 5 months.
• 1:20:26
  How do you not know where the fuse box is?
• 1:20:28
  It's the same in every single one of the homes that you live
• 1:20:30
  in. He finally finds it outside and
• 1:20:34
  everything is labeled really well.
• 1:20:36
  The builders actually wrote down
• 1:20:40
  doesn't happen a lot of the time.
• 1:20:42
  To be honest. Our fuse box is a hodgepodge of
• 1:20:46
  a bunch of shit and sometimes my
• 1:20:50
  he'll flip something and it's to
• 1:20:53
  Ours is a fucking train wreck.
• 1:20:56
  So theirs was labeled very nicely.
• 1:20:59
  I mean, it is a new build. That is one thing with your
• 1:21:01
  house that I have actually been on a hunt with your husband to
• 1:21:03
  try to figure out is where does this pipe even go and where's
• 1:21:07
  this wiring like it is. Yeah, You know, a lot of people
• 1:21:10
  did a lot of projects. They sure have.
• 1:21:13
  Luckily, your husband. Is not continuing that grand
• 1:21:15
  tradition in your house. Are you sure?
• 1:21:19
  Oh, we can do it. We can do it like, oh, you can't
• 1:21:22
  really make it worse. So here we go.
• 1:21:23
  I haven't threatened during his neck a few times.
• 1:21:26
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:21:28
  He can do it himself, sure. Luckily, Kody is the hero of
• 1:21:32
  this story. He finds his own fuse box.
• 1:21:34
  Finally finds the fuse box, he gets that electricity going and
• 1:21:37
  those waffles are back on track.
• 1:21:39
  Maddie does have to take a break, though, to come get a
• 1:21:41
  giant glass of water with ice out of the fridge at Janelle's
• 1:21:45
  house. So she gets to take a little
• 1:21:46
  travel path by the bombs and they're all going, oh, what's
• 1:21:49
  going on over there? How's the brunch coming along?
• 1:21:52
  And she says it's chaos. They're going well.
• 1:21:56
  Is it normal chaos or more than chaos?
• 1:21:58
  And she's like, more than chaos.
• 1:22:00
  And they go, what is Kody like? What does Kody look like?
• 1:22:03
  What is our big strongman? Oh, Kody.
• 1:22:06
  What is he doing? What does his?
• 1:22:09
  Face look like Christine wants to know exactly what his face is
• 1:22:16
  Yeah, mimicking Kody's face, and it's funny.
• 1:22:19
  Yeah, like the eyebrows crooked and the eyes crazy and whatever.
• 1:22:23
  It's a cute moment. It's funny, we cut back to the
• 1:22:28
  buffet being set up and we see
• 1:22:33
  scrumptious and she's using an
• 1:22:40
  slice of banana and she's putting the whole entire tongs
• 1:22:44
  inside of her mouth to feed herself the banana.
• 1:22:48
  She does use an entire black plastic tongue that picks up a
• 1:22:52
  little piece of banana and shoves the whole tongue in her
• 1:22:55
  mouth. And then not only does she just
• 1:22:57
  drop the banana, but she's pulling the tongue out of her
• 1:23:00
  mouth, letting it slide across
• 1:23:03
  What's it there? And then, yes, of course, that's
• 1:23:06
  what everyone's going to get their little banana slices with.
• 1:23:08
  And it was a beautiful moment,
• 1:23:10
  Otherwise. I've got truly scrumptious.
• 1:23:13
  Children are germ factories and everyone is sick all the time
• 1:23:17
  when they have children. As you may have heard in the
• 1:23:20
  last episode and this current one, I have been affected by
• 1:23:25
  something similar by my own children's German germs.
• 1:23:29
  Little germ factories. They sure are.
• 1:23:32
  Cut to all of the mothers do venture over to Meri's house
• 1:23:35
  because they must have been summoned that their brunch was
• 1:23:38
  ready. Mother's Day brunch is ready. 9
• 1:23:41
  mothers come on over from Meri's
• 1:23:44
  And it is funny because when they do the exterior shot
• 1:23:46
  literally production did a pan
• 1:23:50
  Janelle's to Meri's and it was
• 1:23:53
  from one house to another. God bless on the Pligdesac, the
• 1:23:58
  compound, or as Kody calls it,
• 1:24:03
  The C word. And after they arrive, you know,
• 1:24:07
  they can't just dive into breakfast because they are a
• 1:24:09
  spiritual family. They are a religious family.
• 1:24:12
  They are a family that believes in what their cult says.
• 1:24:17
  So Kody is going to lead their
• 1:24:24
  Not quite sure what it was. It's just Kody talking to the
• 1:24:26
  family, at the family. Some heartfelt words.
• 1:24:30
  He starts by saying in our hearts we feel devotion and I
• 1:24:38
  blacked out because he's crying and all I could see was his
• 1:24:42
  face just, well he was kind of like tearing up and I'm not
• 1:24:47
  going to lie, it was sentimental.
• 1:24:49
  It was actually a really nice moment so I was paying attention
• 1:24:59
  honey. Yeah, it was a bit odd because
• 1:25:02
  there was not a lot of room. You could tell around all the
• 1:25:05
  people gathered around. He's giving this speech, and
• 1:25:07
  although the home is big, there's a lot of people.
• 1:25:09
  So the camera angle was not necessarily pleasant.
• 1:25:11
  It was a little off and down. The sun was coming in on him.
• 1:25:15
  It was a little weird to watch.
• 1:25:18
  He's getting emotional, talking about his appreciation for the
• 1:25:29
  your mother means or blah, blah, blah.
• 1:25:30
  It was a lot of, you know, fill in the blank.
• 1:25:33
  But it did feel like he was maybe having a genuine
• 1:25:36
  appreciation moment for his mother, how his wives are
• 1:25:40
  mothers to his children. You know, if he was a normal
• 1:25:43
  human, that's what you'd be thinking.
• 1:25:44
  And maybe he was. He uses the word devotion and he
• 1:25:52
  towards God, whatever their being is that they feel devotion
• 1:25:57
  towards. And he feels devotion towards
• 1:25:59
  his wives and everything that they have done for him and given
• 1:26:03
  him. And it was a touching moment.
• 1:26:06
  And you're right, that light was
• 1:26:11
  making him look like he was lit from above and within, and he
• 1:26:17
  was proselytizing and it was magical.
• 1:26:22
  I would call it overexposed, but
• 1:26:24
  seem like it was a postcard or once again, another fucking
• 1:26:27
  Disney thing where the lights coming in and he was touched.
• 1:26:29
  It was just too bright. But Amen.
• 1:26:32
  Everyone starts serving themselves this brunch.
• 1:26:34
  You know they're going through
• 1:26:35
  Everyone's picking up those truly tongs, picking up things
• 1:26:38
  with the truly tongs. We go to the couch where we have
• 1:26:43
  all of the wives and they are essentially talking what some
• 1:26:47
  might call shit about their husband.
• 1:26:51
  Yeah, trash in a loving way. Oh.
• 1:26:54
  Of course. Christine says God bless him,
• 1:26:57
  he's an idiot. Robyn, are you talking about
• 1:27:01
  Kody? We can bond over his silliness
• 1:27:05
  and his ridiculousness. Yes, it's best if we just laugh
• 1:27:09
  at his antics, don't you know?
• 1:27:15
  she says your husband should not
• 1:27:21
  You should not hinge everything and your value on what he
• 1:27:25
  thinks of you in regards to something her mother must have
• 1:27:29
  said to her once, long ago, as she looked longingly to her
• 1:27:34
  father she couldn't claim as her own.
• 1:27:37
  Yeah. After all, Alice did tell her
• 1:27:42
  your husband is just a man. Just a man, darling and.
• 1:27:46
  You can't hang your value on what a man thinks of you.
• 1:27:50
  It's funny because the advice overall, in a nutshell, is not
• 1:28:00
  Amen. It's just that it's
• 1:28:03
  unfortunately, disgustingly wrapped in an Alice and Robyn
• 1:28:07
  shell and it's just gross. It's just.
• 1:28:09
  Gross. Like do we believe that that is
• 1:28:11
  truly what her mother has told her and taught her over time as
• 1:28:15
  she is constantly manipulating this man to get his affection
• 1:28:19
  and make him want only her? Do we think that is what she was
• 1:28:28
  I was thinking, well, that's a great way to wrap up a
• 1:28:31
  manipulation tactic, but whatever you got to say, Robyn.
• 1:28:34
  Yeah, well, those children have
• 1:28:36
  gotten their fill of this brunch
• 1:28:40
  scurry along on their merry way and go to Kids Town or wherever
• 1:28:44
  the fuck they go when the adults
• 1:28:47
  Dusty Backyard They all got their fill of truly's germs and
• 1:28:51
  now they're off to play in the
• 1:28:53
  And we have all of the mothers
• 1:29:00
  they're conversing and they're
• 1:29:02
  conversation here that is not contrived whatsoever.
• 1:29:06
  No. And Meri starts by asking what
• 1:29:10
  each mom has learned by living
• 1:29:14
  What has helped them grow and be
• 1:29:18
  Oh, I'm having flashbacks from
• 1:29:21
  and said we've got questions to answer organically.
• 1:29:24
  It has a similar vibe. Ringing to the dinner bell
• 1:29:27
  Questions Questions from our followers.
• 1:29:30
  And after Meri asked this touching touching question,
• 1:29:35
  Alice said blah blah blah blah
• 1:29:39
  blah. I did not give one flying fuck
• 1:29:41
  what Alice said. Did you care at all what Alice
• 1:29:43
  said? I I don't know if there was
• 1:29:44
  anything. She says can you love someone
• 1:29:48
  who is less than perfect and still love them?
• 1:29:52
  It's taught me a lot. You have to learn to love
• 1:29:57
  someone who's less than perfect and continue to love them with
• 1:30:00
  all of their flaws, just as I have learned to continue to love
• 1:30:05
  my Robyn after all of her flaws,
• 1:30:08
  premarital sex. Oh, Alice, you know that pretty
• 1:30:17
  much is what she said. And that's why I was going blah
• 1:30:19
  blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:30:21
  And then Bonnie, Bonnie Meri's
• 1:30:24
  blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:30:27
  Everyone's still an individual
• 1:30:31
  they're in this type of family
• 1:30:33
  We're all individuals. Oh yes, that was a good kernel
• 1:30:36
  to take away from Bonnie. I'm so sorry that I lumped you
• 1:30:39
  in with Alice in the way that I did your voice, but it was
• 1:30:43
  along those lines. It was just like ba ba ba ba.
• 1:30:46
  Well, I hate to break it to our listeners at home and to you,
• 1:30:49
  honey, but Bonnie's no longer with us, so your apology is felt
• 1:30:52
  on deaf ears. I mean, if you believe in Sky
• 1:30:55
  friends, she's all around us and
• 1:30:58
  We still listening to us. She is don't.
• 1:31:01
  Haunt me? Yeah, Bonnie.
• 1:31:03
  Love you, Bonnie. I love you, Bonnie.
• 1:31:06
  Yeah. I don't know why I'm shortening
• 1:31:07
  everybody's name. I'm like Bon Rob.
• 1:31:10
  Hey, hey, hey, we didn't make fun of your thinning hair.
• 1:31:12
  Please don't haunt us. Thank you for that, honey.
• 1:31:19
  Sorry. It was beautiful.
• 1:31:21
  It's really good. It's totally one of those
• 1:31:24
  moments where you're not bringing up the thing you're not
• 1:31:26
  bringing up and you're pointing out you're not bringing it up.
• 1:31:28
  I love that. I love that I.
• 1:31:31
  Just really don't want to be haunted.
• 1:31:32
  You've always told me. Well, now let me take that back.
• 1:31:34
  You recently told me that one of
• 1:31:38
  haunted by the ghost of Bonnie
• 1:31:42
  So, you know, we've got a lot of
• 1:31:44
  It is. There's $1,000,000 studio that
• 1:31:47
  we're in. I'm going to have to call upon
• 1:31:50
  my Catholic roots and get a priest up in here, get some sage
• 1:31:54
  because I brought up something I
• 1:31:57
  And I'm not even going to say it
• 1:31:59
  curse on us. Thank you this.
• 1:32:01
  Will not be our cross to bear Go.
• 1:32:02
  Hunt those other people that make fun of that.
• 1:32:04
  Curse on them here. Oh God.
• 1:32:07
  So as we're going through the mothers in law, right, we had
• 1:32:09
  Alice saying blah blah blah, Bonnie saying blah blah blah.
• 1:32:11
  Then we get to Janelle. So I guess I'm not, well,
• 1:32:14
  mothers in law. Plus mother Janelle talks about
• 1:32:18
  wanting to live in plural marriage and how she had no idea
• 1:32:23
  the pain it would create. Which gives an opportunity for
• 1:32:28
  the camera to pan over to Cheryl, her sister wife, who
• 1:32:31
  says it was hell. And then kind of chuckles, which
• 1:32:36
  is a little odd. I'm like, OK, especially because
• 1:32:39
  Cheryl also looks like she's on the verge of tears while
• 1:32:43
  chuckling. And then we have a cutaway to a
• 1:32:45
  moment where Janelle, I think it
• 1:32:49
  dining room. So I think after this scene,
• 1:32:51
  they must have pulled everyone
• 1:32:54
  their one on ones, you know, their confessional moments.
• 1:32:57
  And so we get a one-on-one moment here with Kody's mom,
• 1:33:00
  Janelle. Janelle says that Cheryl was
• 1:33:05
  good at business and she was able to help with the business
• 1:33:10
  in a way that Janelle was not.
• 1:33:15
  time with Kody's dad and I was
• 1:33:21
  jealous. We cut back to Cheryl and Cheryl
• 1:33:26
  says I really felt that there was not much room for me in the
• 1:33:31
  family. I wondered why, Gee whiz, why am
• 1:33:37
  I here? Why was I doing this?
• 1:33:43
  And a fresh reminder for those
• 1:33:45
  halfway through the episode, Cheryl is the one who married
• 1:33:50
  Janelle's husband, Janelle, who is Kody's mom, Cheryl, who is
• 1:33:56
  Janelle's mom. Our sister wives.
• 1:33:59
  My God, this family. It's so hard to keep this shit
• 1:34:02
  together. Cheryl Gee Whiz.
• 1:34:05
  Gee whiz. Why was I doing this?
• 1:34:08
  Yeah, Cheryl, Gee whiz. Remember, remember when we
• 1:34:13
  first, I don't know if it was when we first met Cheryl, it
• 1:34:15
  might have been, but she was the
• 1:34:17
  home when we were at the rentals and she was talking about
• 1:34:21
  something to camera and we were laughing.
• 1:34:23
  It was when I feel like it was the episode where it was you
• 1:34:27
  made a joke about Meri giving Janelle CPR or something for
• 1:34:30
  coming in and it was like she was standing outside and she had
• 1:34:34
  It was a joke about the caramels and she has some sort of crack.
• 1:34:38
  I don't remember what it was.
• 1:34:40
  Sorry you guys. Well, I don't know if I'm the
• 1:34:41
  greatest at it, but I'll try. I'll try.
• 1:34:45
  That's what it was and we got a kick out of it, even though
• 1:34:48
  telling it now it's like, OK. G Wiz, you guys are.
• 1:34:51
  Cool. They all have this, like,
• 1:34:53
  glossed over a look where it's
• 1:34:58
  verge of tears, half tears. In this conversation.
• 1:35:03
  Shaky voices, Janelle says The
• 1:35:12
  self centeredness. And I thought plural marriage
• 1:35:16
  would bring about some perfection.
• 1:35:20
  What? I don't understand the context
• 1:35:23
  of that at all. You would, you thought you were
• 1:35:25
  being selfish and you thought that plural marriage would bring
• 1:35:29
  about some sort of perfection.
• 1:35:36
  that you should let go of your
• 1:35:39
  would allow you to do that and
• 1:35:43
  heaven? That's what I'm taking away from
• 1:35:46
  that. It was a very weird statement to
• 1:35:49
  make. It's backwards to me.
• 1:35:51
  I would think, gosh, I got into a plural marriage and realized
• 1:35:56
  I was being self-centered. But she says it backwards, that
• 1:36:02
  she was selfish and self-centered and thought a
• 1:36:06
  plural marriage would bring about some perfection.
• 1:36:10
  So she thought that plural marriage would make her a better
• 1:36:13
  person. And I suppose that's what
• 1:36:17
  they're taught, right? It seems very surface level or
• 1:36:21
  just like not multidimensional.
• 1:36:23
  Just I thought that plural marriage would make everything
• 1:36:28
  fine. Turns out I was a selfish
• 1:36:30
  person. Were you a selfish person?
• 1:36:33
  Or was it that getting into plural marriage was challenging
• 1:36:36
  and therefore you might have felt selfish because someone was
• 1:36:40
  I mean, a little hard to follow. My editorial note on the entire
• 1:36:45
  rest of this conversation, perhaps except for Annie, is
• 1:36:48
  these people are saying a whole lot of nothing.
• 1:36:51
  There's a lot of nothing being said here and a lot of feelings
• 1:36:55
  that are not deep, are not connected, and so buckle up,
• 1:36:59
  we're going to have more of it. Christine chimes in and goes.
• 1:37:03
  What changed? Cheryl says.
• 1:37:06
  I'm not sure this is what I'm telling you.
• 1:37:08
  They say so much nothing here. I'm so sorry you guys, Cheryl
• 1:37:12
  also says. But in my prayers, I heard this
• 1:37:15
  is where I'm supposed to be. It takes a lot of effort and you
• 1:37:23
  do. And she is full on crying while
• 1:37:26
  saying this, right? Full on crying at this point.
• 1:37:29
  So she doesn't know what changed and she doesn't know where she's
• 1:37:34
  But her prayers told her this is where she's supposed to be and
• 1:37:39
  What in the actual fuck and why should it be this hard and why
• 1:37:53
  child's house having a Mother's Day brunch and still be this
• 1:37:57
  upset about it? About things you can't even put
• 1:38:00
  into words. Not that you can't harken back
• 1:38:13
  Yeah, and things that have hurt you in the past that you have
• 1:38:18
  grappled with, learned from, apparently prayed over, heard
• 1:38:22
  voices tell you about, and you can't even clearly articulate
• 1:38:27
  what it is that's even happening at all or what you've
• 1:38:32
  experienced. It's very bizarre.
• 1:38:33
  It's not like these are happy tears that you have had this
• 1:38:38
  revelation and I'm having happy tears because we spoke to God.
• 1:38:46
  hard work, but it's worth it. And this is everything that our
• 1:38:49
  life was meant to be and supposed to be.
• 1:38:52
  No, it was a challenge. It takes a lot of effort, and
• 1:38:57
  you have to be committed if this is what you want to do.
• 1:39:01
  Like, OK, Cheryl, I'm not even trying to talk shit about these
• 1:39:05
  people. It's just strange this entire
• 1:39:07
  scene unravels like this, Janelle says.
• 1:39:09
  It had to come from me and not expecting everyone else to
• 1:39:14
  change. OK.
• 1:39:16
  I mean, that's a shared experience of recognizing that,
• 1:39:19
  yeah, your change for yourself is going to come from you and
• 1:39:22
  not other people. That's all we're going to get.
• 1:39:29
  Yeah. Where have we heard this
• 1:39:31
  sentiment before? Meri says this to Christine.
• 1:39:35
  Yeah, yes. In like the second season.
• 1:39:39
  God, when was? That no the fourth season.
• 1:39:42
  Yeah, whenever it was when she's trying to tell.
• 1:39:44
  Her laundry on the bed and Christine's unhappy and Meri's.
• 1:39:47
  That's right, Meri's leg was up.
• 1:39:49
  You've got to work on yourself.
• 1:39:52
  You can't change Kody. You can only change yourself.
• 1:39:55
  You can change your outlook on this.
• 1:39:57
  It's when Meri had the leg brace and we were making fun of her.
• 1:40:05
  yourself and it's like. Right.
• 1:40:07
  We've heard this sentiment many. Times simplification of what we
• 1:40:11
  all should know and figure out especially.
• 1:40:13
  I'm sorry. Like you said, if you're a
• 1:40:15
  grandmother, you are an elder and a family.
• 1:40:17
  You're here being celebrated as a mother of more than one
• 1:40:21
  generation, basically. I mean, you're a grandmother.
• 1:40:22
  You're a matriarch of your family and you're spewing the
• 1:40:25
  same shit about how your husband's not going to change.
• 1:40:32
  yourself and your own outlook. What about growing to together?
• 1:40:37
  What about changing together and
• 1:40:39
  growing as a family and learning
• 1:40:45
  I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:46
  This whole thing is garbage. This whole conversation's
• 1:40:50
  garbage. It.
• 1:40:50
  Is and not only is it about the husband, but about each other,
• 1:40:54
  because we have sister wives of an older generation than the
• 1:40:57
  sister wives at the show is about sitting in this room
• 1:41:01
  spewing the same shit, the nonsense.
• 1:41:03
  It's like, oh, it's about blah, blah, blah, and it's yada,
• 1:41:05
  yada, yada. And it's like, what?
• 1:41:07
  We're not even learning anything
• 1:41:09
  dynamics that could be applied to other people.
• 1:41:12
  OK, so Cheryl was good at business and Janelle was
• 1:41:15
  uncomfortable with it. Janelle shared that that was an
• 1:41:17
  actual thing that happened. At least we got that.
• 1:41:20
  But the rest is just a bunch of hocus pocus.
• 1:41:22
  It's nonsense. You are this old that you're at
• 1:41:24
  this point in your life. You're still trying to sell this
• 1:41:27
  make believe dream and it's not doing anyone any favors and you
• 1:41:34
  seem so unhappy still. I will never understand how
• 1:41:41
  someone can just let their life pass them by and be this
• 1:41:44
  unhappy. It's a cult mentality.
• 1:41:47
  They've been brainwashed. They're in a cult.
• 1:41:49
  That's all. I can think about this because
• 1:41:53
  they don't seem happy, and it's so sad to me to let your life
• 1:41:59
  go by like that. We live in an amazing,
• 1:42:03
  wonderful, crazy world where all
• 1:42:07
  Well, is it just that these people are all about the eternal
• 1:42:10
  Kingdom? It's all about everything.
• 1:42:11
  In the future, it's some. They're not about living in the
• 1:42:14
  here and the now. Here and now and their own
• 1:42:16
  experience that they're having
• 1:42:18
  They're not going to enjoy being
• 1:42:23
  they're thinking about is the celestial Kingdom beyond where
• 1:42:26
  we're at currently. They're living in the future.
• 1:42:29
  They're living in this hope and dream.
• 1:42:32
  It's so weird to me. It's so impractical.
• 1:42:37
  I'm even having a tie back right
• 1:42:40
  where Kody's asking almost for
• 1:42:43
  do for his relationships with his sister wives.
• 1:42:47
  And they're like, well, your children are great and
• 1:42:49
  everything's beautiful. Your family's wonderful.
• 1:42:51
  And it's like, this is not even real world practical advice at
• 1:42:54
  all. Like what are you doing?
• 1:42:56
  It's. Not helpful.
• 1:42:58
  Cheryl continues. Oh my God, you guys, brace
• 1:43:00
  yourself. We're, we're, I was going to say
• 1:43:02
  we're going to get somewhere. We're not It's.
• 1:43:04
  More of the phony quoty things
• 1:43:09
  Where there's almost, there's a kernel of truth in there, but
• 1:43:12
  how are you going to find it? What are you going to do with
• 1:43:13
  it? They can't tell you this, Cheryl
• 1:43:16
  says. To build relationships that are
• 1:43:18
  worth wild and lasting, you have
• 1:43:24
  day by day, and listen to the Spirit and just really develop
• 1:43:30
  unconditional love for one another and accept one another
• 1:43:34
  for who you really are. The hallmark sentiment of this
• 1:43:39
  Amen. You know, accept each other for
• 1:43:41
  who each other are. That does make sense.
• 1:43:44
  But what does it mean to build
• 1:43:47
  listen to the Spirit? How do you get there?
• 1:43:51
  Yeah. What are the steps?
• 1:43:52
  Yeah. What are the bricks?
• 1:43:53
  What do you really do for each
• 1:43:57
  yourself? Tell me how to do it brick by
• 1:43:59
  brick then, bitch. I guess the.
• 1:44:01
  Give me the bricks. Tell me how to build it.
• 1:44:03
  That's what I'm asking for. Jesus Christ.
• 1:44:07
  The one kernel I can take from
• 1:44:10
  for who they really are, knowing
• 1:44:14
  for someone else changing. That's fine.
• 1:44:16
  That's an eloquent way of putting the last sentence of her
• 1:44:19
  paragraph of bullshit. We cut to a moment where
• 1:44:22
  Christine tells the story about being surprised and shocked
• 1:44:25
  when her mother, Annie left when she was 19.
• 1:44:29
  She left and it was the most devastating thing in Christine's
• 1:44:31
  life. It was hard for her to trust
• 1:44:33
  after that. I have torn Christine apart for
• 1:44:36
  this in the past and I'm going
• 1:44:39
  I don't know if it's a cult thing.
• 1:44:40
  I don't know if it's me being an
• 1:44:43
  You know, a leader of the manosphere, but when you're 19
• 1:44:46
  years old, your mom divorces your dad and it's the most
• 1:44:49
  devastating thing in your life
• 1:44:53
  After that, I'm going, why at 19
• 1:44:56
  more of a life of your own? Like what is going on with these
• 1:44:59
  people? I understand that it would suck
• 1:45:00
  and it would be challenging and you'd have feels, but my God,
• 1:45:03
  it's the most challenging thing and it's hard to trust.
• 1:45:05
  After my mother left, my father,
• 1:45:09
  you have volunteered that you had a good relationship.
• 1:45:12
  She's been perfectly fine. You guys are great.
• 1:45:14
  Like, you've worked. You've worked work things out,
• 1:45:16
  but it's somehow the one of the biggest things that happened in
• 1:45:18
  your life is that your mom divorced your dad when you were
• 1:45:20
  19. I mean, you are you, you have
• 1:45:23
  divorced parents. I don't, my parents are not
• 1:45:26
  happy every fucking day. It's not like it's a storybook,
• 1:45:28
  but I don't understand how you're 19 years old and your
• 1:45:31
  life is torn apart. You're in crumbles.
• 1:45:33
  I think in the book she talks about being depressed for like
• 1:45:36
  months and like all of these terrible things.
• 1:45:38
  And it's like because your parents got divorced and you
• 1:45:40
  were 19. I think it has more to do with
• 1:45:43
  her being shaken by the fact that her mom isn't believing in
• 1:45:48
  their faith anymore. OK, that.
• 1:45:50
  Makes sense that they had sold
• 1:45:54
  her about plural marriage, and
• 1:45:57
  extricating herself from plural marriage and doesn't believe in
• 1:46:00
  it anymore. I think it has more to do with
• 1:46:03
  the fact that she thought her mom was best friends with her
• 1:46:05
  sister wife. They pulled the wool over her
• 1:46:08
  eyes. They probably lied to her and
• 1:46:11
  she was living with rose colored
• 1:46:14
  Were there probably warning signs as in everything?
• 1:46:18
  Probably. But do you think they hid it
• 1:46:20
  from Christine? Probably because that's what
• 1:46:23
  this religion does. They lie and they hide.
• 1:46:25
  So I can see where it would be
• 1:46:30
  My situation, I was, thank God.
• 1:46:33
  Thank God. When?
• 1:46:34
  Why didn't you do this earlier? I would have preferred that you
• 1:46:37
  did it when I was still living at home because Jesus fucking
• 1:46:41
  Christ, everybody knew and wise today with this thing for the
• 1:46:47
  sake of the children. But why do people say that your
• 1:46:51
  kids are better off seeing their parents happy and seeing
• 1:46:55
  their parents in a healthy loving relationship and not
• 1:46:59
  fighting. And I love my parents, I do, I
• 1:47:04
  truly do. And I know they were doing their
• 1:47:06
  best at the time. I get it.
• 1:47:09
  They did the best that they could do and I can only hope my
• 1:47:12
  kids give me that much grace when I'm older because I know
• 1:47:14
  I'm going to fuck up too. But I just think that this
• 1:47:19
  disgusting, warped way that this
• 1:47:24
  even worse. You know, like my parents kind
• 1:47:27
  of lied in a way staying together.
• 1:47:29
  Everyone knew it was this false narrative, but her parents
• 1:47:32
  didn't even allow the cracks to show is from my understanding
• 1:47:36
  of this, which is scary as a 19 year old.
• 1:47:41
  And you're going off and you're thinking that you're supposed
• 1:47:43
  to be getting married now. You're supposed to be getting
• 1:47:45
  married young. You're looking for a husband.
• 1:47:48
  You believe that plural marriage
• 1:47:51
  marriage is what you're supposed
• 1:47:53
  And then it's like the rugs pulled out from under you.
• 1:47:55
  So I do give Christine grace in this.
• 1:47:58
  And I think she probably had a
• 1:48:02
  What I hope Christine saw at the
• 1:48:08
  is now, and I believe she does, is that her mom deserves to be
• 1:48:13
  happy. And her mom was just as scared
• 1:48:15
  as she was and just as distraught as she was, Her mom
• 1:48:19
  during this interview says. This is was the hardest time of
• 1:48:24
  my life. I was listening to everything
• 1:48:28
  outside of me, everyone outside of me telling me what I had to
• 1:48:32
  be, who I had to be. I had to do this to be a good
• 1:48:35
  sister, wife. I had to do this to be a good
• 1:48:38
  mom. I always had all of these
• 1:48:40
  outside opinions, these outside things telling me how to live
• 1:48:43
  my life. And I didn't need to be told how
• 1:48:48
  to do my life. I was inherently a good person.
• 1:48:51
  I loved, loved God. I loved my family.
• 1:48:55
  She is defensive during this moment and still trying to sell
• 1:49:00
  the reason that she had to leave
• 1:49:05
  to be happy. And I just think that Christine
• 1:49:11
  and her mom's relationship, I, I
• 1:49:17
  the future for the Browns here, coming up with the moms and the
• 1:49:21
  parting from the children and the breaks that are going to
• 1:49:26
  happen in the family. And this is like foreshadowing
• 1:49:28
  to me. And it's so painful to watch.
• 1:49:30
  I don't know. I appreciate that you
• 1:49:32
  highlighted in response to my question about my insensitive
• 1:49:36
  question about Christine and maybe it's not so insensitive.
• 1:49:39
  I just was going, I can't believe that this has been so
• 1:49:42
  such an impact to you as a 19 year old, your parents splitting
• 1:49:44
  up. You are right.
• 1:49:46
  It is about the framework and the methodology and the
• 1:49:49
  architecture of the life that she was put into and raised in
• 1:49:53
  being shattered in front of her by her parents, her mother.
• 1:49:57
  So I can appreciate that, and that's understandable.
• 1:50:02
  I felt for Annie in her defensive responses here when
• 1:50:06
  she wrapped it up by saying that
• 1:50:10
  time by trying to please everyone else.
• 1:50:14
  I know I'm preaching to the choir here, and I'm probably
• 1:50:17
  preaching to the choir for most of the people listening to this
• 1:50:20
  podcast. My God.
• 1:50:22
  Pleasing everyone else all the
• 1:50:26
  And this is another level. This isn't some heteronormative
• 1:50:29
  American 2026 story. This is called bullshit, like
• 1:50:33
  another level. So I feel for Annie.
• 1:50:37
  To your point though about her
• 1:50:42
  agree with that to an extent because I think Christine has
• 1:50:45
  lived her life so naively of her
• 1:50:50
  To an extent because she's been Four Seasons now, slowly having
• 1:50:58
  the Rose colored glasses fading away and still pretending
• 1:51:05
  there's this Princess element and there is this I was raised
• 1:51:10
  naive type of thing, right? But then at 19, when this
• 1:51:15
  happened to you, you chose to continue to live naively.
• 1:51:23
  So I do agree with you and the
• 1:51:26
  She didn't let it help her grow.
• 1:51:31
  Right. She wasn't looking at it for
• 1:51:33
  what was my mom thinking? What is my mom feeling?
• 1:51:35
  I mean, maybe she was, but she was putting her own perspective.
• 1:51:39
  it. Yeah, and at this point in the
• 1:51:40
  show, I don't know if she's 40.
• 1:51:41
  I'm not sure how old she is, but this bitch has been around.
• 1:51:45
  She's seen these things. She was an advocate for trying
• 1:51:53
  she had to hear. They just did a panel where she
• 1:51:56
  was hearing people. Her aunt was saying hello like
• 1:52:06
  Because I'm going Christine, my God, you're a fucking person.
• 1:52:09
  But it's OK, Chris, calm down. Yeah, I have a hard time with
• 1:52:14
  her in particular because of her upbringing and realizing the
• 1:52:17
  fact that she was raised more deeply ingrained in this cult
• 1:52:21
  than any of the other wives and that she was truly lied to way
• 1:52:31
  So I can understand this childlike thinking and this way
• 1:52:36
  that she's kind of had to protect herself by living in a
• 1:52:47
  multiple instances where she could have grown, she could have
• 1:52:56
  So I have a hard time with her. And the polygamist royalty
• 1:53:00
  thing, I've heard about this in many.
• 1:53:03
  I've seen this in multiple facets with her where there
• 1:53:08
  could have also been in her immediate family a protection
• 1:53:13
  from the reality of the cult. Right.
• 1:53:18
  They probably had more money than everybody else.
• 1:53:20
  She was given privilege that no one else was.
• 1:53:22
  She talks about some of the normality of her life in
• 1:53:25
  comparison to someone like Colleen Snow that was just on
• 1:53:28
  the show. She they had wildly different
• 1:53:31
  experiences. So that does color her rose
• 1:53:34
  colored glasses too. That's true.
• 1:53:37
  There's different levels of this cult.
• 1:53:39
  There's different levels than when you're at the level that
• 1:53:43
  her family was at. She is being lied to in a
• 1:53:47
  different way. Yeah, yeah, probably a less
• 1:53:50
  subservient way, but look at what the yeah.
• 1:53:53
  I can here's within the sects based on the leader of the sect
• 1:53:58
  and how it trickles down from there.
• 1:54:01
  And she is the top tier, so things were different for her,
• 1:54:06
  the leader of the AUB cult that they are a part of, so yeah.
• 1:54:10
  I just listened to an audio book recently called The Polygamist's
• 1:54:20
  the other half of Christine's family.
• 1:54:23
  That's right, the guy who ordered her grandfather to be
• 1:54:28
  murdered. And it's a very interesting
• 1:54:31
  book. I would suggest listening to it.
• 1:54:36
  still. There's a lot of ideological
• 1:54:41
  thinking. This person still is pretty
• 1:54:44
  religious from my understanding of the book and how it ends.
• 1:54:47
  But it's called The Polygamist
• 1:54:51
  about the different tiers. So it kind of goes into what
• 1:54:55
  we're talking about and how at
• 1:54:59
  was treated completely differently based on the family
• 1:55:03
  she was living with at the time and the different mom that she
• 1:55:07
  was living under at the time. So I think it kind of gave me a
• 1:55:14
  little insight into Christine's background.
• 1:55:16
  So I would suggest that book if you're interested in the
• 1:55:20
  culture a little bit more. We have a couch moment where
• 1:55:23
  Christine talks about her mom and her sister wife appearing to
• 1:55:26
  be best friends as you were referencing.
• 1:55:28
  Like, you know, Christine didn't
• 1:55:32
  but when her mom left, it was very painful for her.
• 1:55:36
  Yeah, she was shocked because she thought they were best
• 1:55:38
  friends, so she was shocked by
• 1:55:41
  As would any child be. We find out I didn't know this.
• 1:55:48
  Maybe we've found all this before, but we find out that she
• 1:55:51
  didn't come to Kody and Christine's wedding.
• 1:55:54
  They didn't know if she was safe
• 1:55:58
  take their kids away. Yeah, Christine didn't feel she
• 1:56:03
  was safe. Didn't feel she was safe.
• 1:56:06
  Sorry girl, you know I'm hung up
• 1:56:10
  Kody's mom, Janelle, pulled them
• 1:56:14
  needed to involve her and they
• 1:56:19
  and they needed to not judge her
• 1:56:24
  And that they shouldn't withdraw
• 1:56:27
  children from their grandmother.
• 1:56:29
  And I think she emphasized that was, you know, yes, you might
• 1:56:32
  have these differences you might be questioning, but you really
• 1:56:44
  based on her worldview. Annie says I was trying to find
• 1:56:49
  myself and got lost for a long time.
• 1:56:52
  I can only imagine how you would feel leaving your entire family,
• 1:57:04
  knowing that for yourself. It was what you had to do if you
• 1:57:15
  time. Imagine your daughter reaching
• 1:57:25
  finally feeling that connection again.
• 1:57:28
  I'm sure her mom was so relieved that Christine was putting out
• 1:57:39
  alluded to earlier. What choice does she have but to
• 1:57:45
  She's your mom. And that is something that I
• 1:57:49
  think any mom should do. Not that any mom would do, but
• 1:58:00
  love them and you want them in your life no matter what that
• 1:58:04
  means. Come on.
• 1:58:06
  Well, and you're saying this, I don't disagree with you.
• 1:58:09
  I'm curious what Christine's mother Annie's relationship is
• 1:58:17
  Kristen Decker leaving the faith, blah blah blah.
• 1:58:21
  We don't dive into their relationship on this show, but I
• 1:58:28
  colored Christine's perception of what was going on, given some
• 1:58:33
  before. That doesn't mean that that's
• 1:58:35
  what Annie was thinking or feeling, but I would assume
• 1:58:39
  Annie and Kristen probably are
• 1:58:42
  reconnected in some way. Yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 1:58:46
  I don't know what that means, but that's maybe another element
• 1:58:49
  of it. You would think if your sister
• 1:58:51
  left the same cult that you left, you would reconvene and
• 1:58:56
  thank God that you had each other and you could commiserate
• 1:59:00
  together and share experiences.
• 1:59:02
  So I can see why Christine would be fearful that her mom would
• 1:59:07
  want to take her children, especially if she's being told
• 1:59:16
  going to be with God anymore. And who knows what they were
• 1:59:19
  being told, right? I can understand that.
• 1:59:22
  I from a mother's perspective, no matter what capacity you can
• 1:59:26
  have your child in your life, you would want them in your
• 1:59:29
  life. So of course she's going to be
• 1:59:36
  especially as a queer person, as a gay man, I immediately default
• 1:59:46
  parents and not loved unconditionally by their
• 1:59:50
  parents. Generally, this is a stereotype.
• 1:59:56
  storytelling trope, but usually the mothers are the one that
• 1:59:59
  are going, are the ones struggling with that decision,
• 2:00:02
  you know, are the ones going. I want to be there for my child,
• 2:00:05
  but my spouse is a, you know, homophobic asshole and I have
• 2:00:08
  to. Fall in line and I'm going.
• 2:00:11
  That's something you should really be grappling with.
• 2:00:14
  I talked about earlier how I would in the last episode or
• 2:00:16
  something, I would get divorced from a man if he was telling me
• 2:00:19
  I couldn't cosign for my child's
• 2:00:21
  be like, you're making me choose
• 2:00:24
  I'm going to pick my fucking child.
• 2:00:25
  And I'm not a mother. I've never pushed anything out
• 2:00:27
  of my Hoo ha. And so I don't really have a lot
• 2:00:30
  of empathy for people that don't
• 2:00:32
  I don't either. I don't either.
• 2:00:35
  It's a complex thing and I hear you.
• 2:00:37
  It would be nice to think that
• 2:00:40
  It's idealistic of. Me, you know, unconditionally
• 2:00:43
  love their child and I. Me as a mom, that's what I am
• 2:00:48
  going to be like. So that's what I will be like.
• 2:00:51
  And I can't imagine ever not being like that for my children
• 2:00:55
  and being there for them, even
• 2:01:00
  always aspire to be the mom that
• 2:01:04
  because I know how important that is.
• 2:01:07
  And I just, I can't imagine I've said this before.
• 2:01:11
  There was a moment in the hospital after having my first
• 2:01:17
  My husband was sleeping, my baby was sleeping.
• 2:01:20
  No nurses were around. It was quiet in the room.
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  And I looked over through the clear bassinet that my baby was
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  sleeping in and I started crying.
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  And I just thought, how could any mother ever look at their
• 2:01:36
  child and ever do anything to hurt them?
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  I'm going to tear up thinking about it because there's all
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  this stuff going on with Lindsey Clancy right now.
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  And like, I, I won't get into that.
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  And I believe in postpartum depression.
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  I've had it myself. So I do know that there is a way
• 2:01:55
  fucking mind when they do it. But I just will always love my
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  during this because regardless of the fact that they were blow
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  and smoke up our asses, you can tell that they love their
• 2:02:11
  children. So what it comes down to is you
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  always think you're doing what's best for your child in
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  your own sick way, even if it's fucking wrong.
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  And it's hard to understand that.
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  It's so hard for me to wrap my mind around that, you know?
• 2:02:25
  And I think we do need to move on from this Christine bit.
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  But one thing I would also point out is I don't know if it's in
• 2:02:37
  talks about how it might even be in the show, how she at one
• 2:02:41
  point had a closer relationship with her momma's sister wife
• 2:02:44
  with her other mother than her bio mom.
• 2:02:47
  And the benefit of that, I think it might have been even when
• 2:02:50
  Isabel went to go stay with Meri for a day or two and let's like
• 2:02:54
  whole like faux setup thing where she was like, that's one
• 2:03:00
  have that safe space in that relationship.
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  When I as a mother can't have that maternal thing happening or
• 2:03:08
  happening. So Christine's, you know, I
• 2:03:11
  don't want to dog on her too much longer, but it's just what
• 2:03:16
  it is. I respect Kody's mom, Janelle,
• 2:03:21
  with them because that was another mom moment where she
• 2:03:25
  felt the need to step in and could feel for what Christine's
• 2:03:30
  mom Annie was going through and you know, did what she thought
• 2:03:36
  And so good on her for healing that relationship regardless of
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  the differences in religion because that's what it is all
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  about and that is what family is all about.
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  We get more from Janelle here. She says we all have to be
• 2:03:55
  humble enough to know that God loves every one of us.
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  So it would behoove you to remember that God loves
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  everyone. You not only got to say behoove.
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  Which I know is a highlight for you in this episode for sure.
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  But this was actually one of the
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  yeah, we don't need a whole lot of color.
• 2:04:19
  We don't need the supporting details.
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  This is one that I can go totally.
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  We need to recognize that God loves everyone.
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  If you recognize that God loves everyone of us, then we need to
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  love each other. Yes, pretty simple.
• 2:04:33
  Amen doesn't need a lot of complications.
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  Of all of the words salad, blah blah blah we got from them,
• 2:04:38
  this one's thumbs up. Amen.
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  And I've got a new favorite word
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  long time. Behoove behooves you.
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  We're going to wrap up this episode with a voiceover from
• 2:04:50
  Kody. That's happening as there's a
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  montage of footage of the Sister
• 2:04:56
  Day gifts. And, you know, Robyn at one
• 2:04:59
  point pulls out that big giant, gigantic ugly clock and is
• 2:05:03
  like, smiling. And it's hard to know if she's
• 2:05:06
  actually happy about getting it.
• 2:05:07
  It is a gift from her husband. Who knows?
• 2:05:10
  It's always hard to tell with Robyn.
• 2:05:11
  But this voice over from Kody goes a little something like
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  this. I don't want to spend my life in
• 2:05:29
  It's not easy.
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  Any advice that the mothers in
• 2:05:35
  us even more. At the end, we need to be more
• 2:05:38
  loving and forgiving. So even through this
• 2:05:43
  conversation with the moms and
• 2:05:50
  in. You know, Janelle Kody's mom
• 2:05:53
  kind of gave us that kernel at
• 2:05:55
  all that we need to be more loving and forgiving.
• 2:05:59
  So I mean, I guess there was a
• 2:06:02
  It is Sister Wives and this podcast is a shit show, so take
• 2:06:06
  it for what it's worth. But that might be a lesson to
• 2:06:09
  take away from what we've just
• 2:06:12
  All this speak of the manosphere
• 2:06:16
  I think it's about time that I
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  our final segment of this show.
• 2:06:21
  What do you think about that? All right, Christopher, would
• 2:06:25
  you like to start with shit stain or mustard seed?
• 2:06:28
  My mustard seed for this episode is going to Annie.
• 2:06:32
  I know mine. What does it feel like, honey?
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  Annie Christine's mom leaving a cult and not young when doing
• 2:06:46
  so. Having adult literal children,
• 2:06:54
  against her, the constant being told who she needed to be for
• 2:06:58
  her husband, for her sister wives, for her children.
• 2:07:01
  I think a lot of people listening to this podcast, be
• 2:07:05
  the mothers or not, can identify with that.
• 2:07:08
  We all feel that pressure and I think mom's wives, I was.
• 2:07:12
  It's funny because wives is duplicated here with the sister
• 2:07:15
  wives a bit, but mothers and wives having that pressure,
• 2:07:18
  having that pressure without even being those.
• 2:07:21
  But then that's elevated And then being in a cult and
• 2:07:24
  probably having microscopes on you as a leader of the cult,
• 2:07:27
  being married to a leader of the cult, you're an example.
• 2:07:30
  Oh God, all the pressure and for her to leave.
• 2:07:34
  Good for fucking her and overcoming struggles outside of
• 2:07:38
  that and post that to have a relationship with her daughter
• 2:07:47
  Kody. Her line of questioning early in
• 2:07:56
  A supportive mother-in-law but sees what's really going on and
• 2:08:00
  is still showing up and still filming with this God awful
• 2:08:04
  family so. Because she wants to be part of
• 2:08:06
  her child's life and her grandkids life.
• 2:08:08
  No matter what, she's going to be supportive so she can be
• 2:08:11
  there for them. So Annie gets my mustard seed.
• 2:08:17
  I'm not sure that it matters. Annie gets my mustard seed for
• 2:08:24
  Janelle. She didn't do as much for me as
• 2:08:31
  Annie did. However, towards the end here
• 2:08:35
  when we found out that she helped mend the relationship
• 2:08:40
  between Christine and Annie, that was huge for me.
• 2:08:44
  Especially because she still is part of this religion and called
• 2:08:54
  Not a lot of people would do that, especially given the
• 2:08:58
  circumstances in the cult like behavior.
• 2:09:00
  So she is a OK in my book, you know?
• 2:09:06
  Yeah. And she also was honest when it
• 2:09:10
  came to the gift giving. I appreciated the fact that she
• 2:09:16
  was one of well, she was one of all of the mothers in law that
• 2:09:24
  Yeah, she was the one that initiated that with Kody like.
• 2:09:28
  So appreciate that. And she also gave us a story
• 2:09:33
  about Kody being a little shit when he was a child and burning
• 2:09:36
  his hands on the radiator and deserving it.
• 2:09:39
  She all but said he deserved it and that he's still a shit to
• 2:09:43
  this day. So love that for her.
• 2:09:46
  She can admit that she raised a little shit and she still loves
• 2:09:52
  him, but she's truthful. So yeah, she's going to get my
• 2:09:59
  store in, you know, Rod's building or whatever it's
• 2:10:02
  called. Rod's work.
• 2:10:03
  Rod works, Rod works. But there were also little
• 2:10:07
  moments where she was kind of busting Kody's balls a little
• 2:10:09
  bit. And I like that there was just a
• 2:10:14
  there that might not align with Kody's perspective on
• 2:10:16
  everything and they might not have been big dulls, but I did
• 2:10:20
  like that too. My shit stain this week.
• 2:10:23
  Oh, excuse me honey, I think you're supposed to ask me this.
• 2:10:25
  Question. Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 2:10:27
  Thank you. What is your shit stain this
• 2:10:30
  week, Chris? My shit stain goes to Alice.
• 2:10:33
  I'm not sure what her last O'Sullivan, probably Alice
• 2:10:36
  Sullivan, whatever, you know, Robyn's had so many last names
• 2:10:38
  it's hard to tell, you know, with all of the credit card
• 2:10:40
  fraud and all of the alleged other things that she has done.
• 2:10:44
  But Alice, you get my shit stain
• 2:10:48
  earlier in the episode, the apple didn't fall far from the
• 2:10:52
  tree and Robyn's chin is a knock off the old block.
• 2:10:57
  Alice's chin is not quite as pronounced.
• 2:11:00
  Maybe it's because it's filled
• 2:11:03
  knows. I can't, I have no idea.
• 2:11:06
  I don't know about biology or anatomy or anything like that.
• 2:11:10
  Alice gave some sort of bullshit
• 2:11:13
  pretended to cry while doing it,
• 2:11:17
  It's Robyn's life, it's what Robyn does.
• 2:11:20
  And then she would chime in with
• 2:11:22
  Burgers that led nowhere and gave us no insight and provided
• 2:11:26
  no details into anything. So, Alice, while I didn't see
• 2:11:31
  you committing credit card fraud, while I didn't see you
• 2:11:34
  overspending at the store, while
• 2:11:38
  cheating, stealing, I do know that you probably participated
• 2:11:42
  in some cheating. Allegedly, you're getting my
• 2:11:44
  shit stain simply for giving birth to Robyn Brown.
• 2:11:50
  You deserve it, Robyn Brown. Oh, you know what?
• 2:11:53
  Also, Alice didn't look much like a bird.
• 2:11:55
  And that makes me go fuck you because you should look more
• 2:11:58
  like a bird. She looked like a budgie.
• 2:12:00
  What's a budgie? One of those little fat little
• 2:12:03
  budgie birds, although they are really cute so I don't know if
• 2:12:08
  I would call it. Let's take that back.
• 2:12:10
  You did look like a very unattractive bird.
• 2:12:15
  Really attractive bird, one without a beak.
• 2:12:19
  One that can't fly. Probably a dodo bird.
• 2:12:22
  Perhaps a Penguin with the smallest wings and the most
• 2:12:26
  rotund body and the lacking of
• 2:12:30
  So where Robyn came from? Not sure.
• 2:12:32
  But you definitely are the ugliest bird and you are my shit
• 2:12:35
  stain. And your turn, honey.
• 2:12:38
  My shit stain this week is going
• 2:12:44
  the entire family Ebola salmonella.
• 2:12:51
  I'm not quite sure what their thought process was, if there
• 2:12:56
  was any at all. It's going to go to Truly,
• 2:13:00
  because how dare you take the serving tongs and serve yourself
• 2:13:08
  up a little tiny slice of banana.
• 2:13:13
  Pop it in your mouth. But not only pop that banana
• 2:13:16
  slice in your mouth, you pop to the entire tongs into your
• 2:13:19
  little tiny mouth. Oh my God And I love you so much
• 2:13:23
  and I hate to do it but you're
• 2:13:26
  you might have caused some more shit stains to happen after the
• 2:13:29
  brunch because sharing them germs wasn't right, honey.
• 2:13:33
  Oh my God it's truly even out of
• 2:13:36
  She is so young and you are giving her a shit stain.
• 2:13:42
  Girl, this is scandalous. This is scandalous.
• 2:13:46
  You do realize that Truly's father didn't even know where
• 2:13:49
  the fuse box was in his own home
• 2:13:54
  stain? My God, girl.
• 2:13:57
  As someone who has been sick for
• 2:14:01
  my children don't know how to cover their own goddamn mouths
• 2:14:05
  when they cough and who try to drink out of every glass that
• 2:14:09
  I ever have in the home, yeah.
• 2:14:14
  my children for giving me this, I would.
• 2:14:17
  So truly, if you gave anyone in that family a cold after that
• 2:14:22
  banana slice incident, shame on you.
• 2:14:26
  Shame on you. Wow wow.
• 2:14:30
  I'm not sure if we've had a new low on this show, especially
• 2:14:32
  because the way we ended our last episode was like the
• 2:14:35
  weirdest ending I've ever had when recording anything in my
• 2:14:38
  life. So you know.
• 2:14:40
  I had to mix it up here and to
• 2:14:44
  It was shocking. I do have to give the editors
• 2:14:47
  kudos for leaving it in because it was the weirdest moment of.
• 2:14:50
  It was funny, not going to lie.
• 2:14:52
  It was really funny. And it just made me cringe so
• 2:14:56
  hard and think, how many times has somebody in that family just
• 2:15:05
  Yeah, like lose sushi rolls, you
• 2:15:07
  know? Well this I was going to say,
• 2:15:10
  she's not even one of Janelle's children so she can't blame
• 2:15:12
  Janelle for the sushi roll thing.
• 2:15:14
  God. Just.
• 2:15:16
  All convoluted. Bad protocol in the kitchens and
• 2:15:20
  the Brown family. That's all I got to say.
• 2:15:23
  Our keep sweet moment this week is a YouTube comment from Haley
• 2:15:28
  other letters and numbers. So we're just going to go with
• 2:15:30
  Haley cause Haley. Hi Haley.
• 2:15:32
  We can say Haley on a rewatch of
• 2:15:36
  A wife decides Haley let us know
• 2:15:41
  attached to a bass pro shops. So for those of you not familiar
• 2:15:45
  with Silverton or what we're talking about, this is a casino
• 2:15:49
  apparently in Las Vegas, apparently that Kimber and I had
• 2:15:52
  never heard of. And when we were making fun of
• 2:15:55
  guilt, the gift shop inside of
• 2:16:00
  family's wholesale My Sister Wife's Closet jewelry is
• 2:16:03
  available exclusively to the high end shoppers of the Vegas
• 2:16:08
  Strip. I mean, off, off, off Vegas
• 2:16:11
  Strip, who knows where it is. Haley lets us know that
• 2:16:13
  Silverton is also attached to a Bass Pro Shops and it really
• 2:16:18
  adds to the ambiance of the wholesale jewelry.
• 2:16:22
  It sure does. Thank you Haley for letting us
• 2:16:25
  know this detail. I never would have known myself
• 2:16:28
  unless I had of course traveled there to get my sister wife's
• 2:16:31
  jewelry wholesale from guilt inside of Silverton.
• 2:16:35
  I feel like contacting them and asking them if they have back
• 2:16:38
  stock of this wholesale jewelry and if we can have some.
• 2:16:43
  Haley, thank you so much for that tidbit.
• 2:16:46
  When I read that, it brought me so much joy in a weird way that
• 2:16:50
  I don't even know how to describe.
• 2:16:52
  Like literally very strange. I feel like actually when we got
• 2:16:57
  that comment, we either texted
• 2:17:00
  believe it? bass pro It totally makes sense.
• 2:17:05
  And I feel like if Bass Pro Shops ever files for bankruptcy,
• 2:17:09
  it's the Brown family curse and we get to blame them. 2027
• 2:17:13
  Lookout Bass Pro Shops. Lookout.