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Episode 160: Steve Ballmer CANNOT Get Away With This! · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Greg: these the same niggas that are mad at Terry Rozier. You mad at Jonte Porter. But you don't give a fuck that Steve Ballmer doing some shit. It's all in the same umbrella to me. Cut this shit out. You have stepping. This is like how I feel with not liking James Harden but loving Luca Doncic. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Given little anti black man. Like, come on. Jax: feel like people are trying to bring which is crazy, but bringing back slurs is definitely a thing now. I don't think people care anymore either. There are people starting to care less and less, I feel like. Which is crazy, but everybody cares everybody cares less about everything Greg: Is it is it really crazy is it cra Jax: now. Greg: is it really crazy for you though? Jax: What do you mean for me? Greg: I just feel like I just feel like you've been a agenda pusher over the years. I don't think Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: I don't think this is really as wild and crazy as as you think. I I feel like Jax: No, but I'm just saying like the fact everything's becoming accepted again is wild and crazy. But I like I said everybody accepts everything now because the world is a horrible place now. So everybody's just like, we can be horrible and be fine with it. Greg: But like, are you pleasantly surprised? Jax: I don't know if it's a pleasant surprise, but I don't know if it's an unpleasant surprise. It's just like just interesting to see. Like not funny, ha Greg: It's not safe here. Jax: ha, funny weird. Like I don't know, like, hmm. Like like it's just it's just interesting to see. That's that's all I can say. It's just interesting to see. Greg: Yeah bro, it's it's it's not it's not safe here. Man, welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keys Podcast, the only podcast where we do something different every single day. Not an hour, not an episode. This is a daily thing. I am your host, Greg. That is my host, Jax. Welcome to the show. The podcast for casuals. If you are a casual, this is the show for you. Jax, I just realized the shirt you had. You always got a fire shirt that's always black culture, like. Jax: Appreciate that. Greg: Relevant, like it always is black, I fuck with it. And and it's always and I don't really notice it until it's time to like edit a video. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Or like I see a comment section of like pissed off white people. And then like I fuck with it even heavier when I see a pissed off white person. I remember when he was like, still steal money from white people. That that's Jax: All right. Greg: that shit that shit go platinum on this channel. You know what I mean? Like Jax: Ha ha I seen one I think Greg: we have a white white niggas. Jax: I seen one where he was like steal the pr the person who made the steal money from White Beast said steal money from an another place. And I was like, interesting, I might get that. I don't know. I don't know. It's interesting. Greg: You know? We have a chance. Send me that link. I just wanna see it. I just I just wanna see it. I didn't I wouldn't say I won't buy it. I'm just I I just I can't believe it. I just gotta see it, yeah. Okay. we have a lot to really talk about, honestly. So let's not let's not beat beat around the bush. And hold on, where's the button? There you go. Donations. Donations. Here comes the money. Here we go. The money talks. Here comes the money. Jax, did you find out what that song name was? Jax: It was from God. I found it I found on YouTube, but it's the I think his name is Jim Johnston or Jim Johnson, one of them. Greg: okay. Jax: He's like a WWE guy, composer dude. And Greg: Jim Johnson. Hmm. Jax: it's Shane McMahon's theme song. Greg: Absolutely. Yeah, that's Jax: I guess he just composed it himself. Yeah. Greg: That's crazy. He composed it, but he composed it but it wasn't his voice. Jax: That I don't know. Greg: Mm. So Will Smith is still on the board, is what I'm hearing. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: That that is That is actually hilarious. That is funny. Jax: It might be. There's a whole rap verse on this. What the fuck? Greg: no, that is. It's a full it's an actual song. It's a full song. Jax: trigger. Greg: I'm just not I'm just not gonna play that foolshit. Play that you don't know. Jax: Interesting. Well we'll I'll look up more of it later. It's not that long. Greg: Yeah. Jax: I don't see no more. Greg: Bad. So yeah, let's go ahead and get into the things that we do not care. We do not care. Real quick. First things up, fans are getting a Heisman vote now. Allegedly. I'm only saying alleged because I don't know anything about this, Jax. Take it away. Jax: Yeah, it's this new platform or whatever called Heisman Hopefuls and pretty sure it's put on well, it's put on by like the Heisman Company Corporation, whatever you want to call it. And it's just fan voting for the Heisman. And then at the end of the year, they tally up who has the most fan votes and they give that person one vote for the Heisman. Like one singular vote. And like that just count 'cause there's like a thousand or something hidden voters, so in the end of things it won't really matter. So just fans get a chance to I guess have their vote. So I guess it's cool, interesting. Greg: Yeah, but yeah, but like we say it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but like what if we have a whole nother like Travis Hunter Ashton Gente thing? I feel like Jax: I mean that didn't come down to one that didn't come down to one vote though. Like it was close, but it came down to like like a couple like I don't even know, like a couple like tens of votes and something like that. So it like is it's literally just one vote. So I'm like, okay, it's not gonna be that crazy, because I don't think anything will come that close. Greg: Yeah, yeah, they it they won't sway it to that degree. And I don't think yeah. It's been a while since a Heisman race was that close, to begin with. From a ten tens of votes? Yeah. Different. But Jax: Yeah, I was like I can't even think. Well yeah, I the Travis Hunter Ash and Gene, that was the last close husband vote 'cause after that it was like Mendoza. Right. Greg: Mendoza, Devonta d Devontae Smith and all these other people. list goes on. Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: But, you know, overall, you have a voice. But Jax: I guess. Greg: but guess what? We do not care. I I just don't care. I just don't hey and on top of that. Do you think it's wise for you to keep talking? Since we hear Since we hear is it wise? Next up. Next up in the week. We do not care. Jaden Higgins from the Houston Texans tore his ACL. I think in in practice, if I'm not mistaken. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I don't know. Was it like was it like their actual practice or was like you know how they be doing like the joint practices? It wasn't like one of those, was it? Jax: it might it might have been at the joint practices. Actually now I think about it. Greg: shit. That's unfortunate. for people that Jax: Yeah, but Greg: don't know who Jaden Higgins are who Jaden Higgins is, he is a wide receiver that kind of came to life last season, with you know, certain injuries to Tank Dill. And I think Nico Collins was kind of in and out of the lineup at that time. Jaden Higgins was somebody that rose on occasion, nice eyes on him, had a great year or a good year, and It's gonna be a good it's gonna be a blow to the Texans. You know, Jax: I feel like the Texas receivers be getting hurt a lot now that I think about it. They have unlucky receivers. Greg: Yeah, they haven't had a stable receiver probably since Hopkins. Jax: Yeah. Nico Collins. Greg: And I'd be rooting hard for Tank Dell. Jax: Nico Collins, he's good, but he he begin to hurt a lot. We just talked about Jaden Higgins and tour LCO. Before that, when they had John Messi, he had cancer, which that's not that's not necessarily an injury, but like what the fuck? He just got cancer, so he couldn't play. Tank Greg: Yeah. Shit, I mean Stephon Diggs was he was outright. He Jax: Yeah. Greg: like didn't he tore some tear some shit? Jax: No with the Texans? He did yeah. Yeah, Greg: Did he have a healthy eje I thought he had like he got injured, right? Yeah. Jax: he tore his ACL and then he went to the Patriots. Greg: Yeah. And then a down and then and then it went downhill. Off the Jax: But shit, that happened. Then Greg: field, yeah. Jax: Tank Dell, he broke his leg, got shot, broke his leg again, like you know Greg: Yeah, that was crazy. Jax: I don't know what the Texans got going on. Greg: Tank Dale really be going out like a Houstonian, nigga. Like, he be having some Houston injuries. I'm I'm just now thinking about this shit. And that's they're not even trying to be stereotypical. It's just like, hey, that nigga been Jax: He went to UA, so he's been in Houston for like what seven years or something like that now, technically. Greg: God. This whole his whole Jax: Só que isso, yeah. Greg: his whole NFL career has been very Houston like. From how he got drafted, Jax: Yeah. Greg: hey, text to your man say, hey, help. Jax: Come drive me. Greg: That's such a Houston thing. That's crazy. Yeah, that I hope I hope we got I hope we get a bounce back here. And on top of that, he's so good. Jax: 'Cause he's he's good. He just every he's getting Looney Tunes injuries, bro, he's good and he just Greg: And it don't help that he like not a big guy. You know, he's small. That don't help at all. Jax: I don't even think like him being like small control. I think he's just getting like freak injuries, bro. Like Nigga got shot at the party. He wasn't even doing anything. He was standing. He got shot. Like he don't even like that's why I'm like, his injuries are just freak injuries that happen. Greg: And then this is not even a receiver. But shit, even Joe Bixon. That was crazy last year. Based off of the alleged things. N nah, I know the alleged stuff Jax: And nobody Yeah, nobody knows exactly what happened. Greg: Another a another Houston injury. Nigga shot it allegedly shot himself in the foot. Jax: That's the very yeah no. Greg: That's a very Second Amendment as injury, bro. I don't I don't know what to tell you. That's crazy. That would've never happened in Cincinnati. I don't even think they can tote like that out there. Jax: He's yeah no. And if that w if that would have happened in freaking New York, you wouldn't have went to jail like placco Burris. 'Cause that's why he went to jail because he was in New York, bro. Greg: Yeah, that's when I f hey, that's that's one of the first few times like I found out how they just don't play. I'm like, this is bad. And they waited for that nigga to heal up. Hey, we're gonna we're gonna handcuff you nigga. Jax: Don't don't you worry. Greg: Don't you worry. You're not g I'm sorry. I know this shit hurts, but We gotta do our jobs. That's crazy. We do not care. Insane. Last and certainly but not least. The Timberwolves have sold for 4.5 billion to they're saying a a business leader by the name of Mark Stad. I don't know what the fuck business leader means. Jax: It doesn't sound I don't know. It doesn't sound very it sounds very mysterious in in a bad way. Greg: Sound it sounds very mysterious for a nigga that's about to pay 4.5 billion. I think I would like to know what the fuck you get your money from. Jax: What business do you lead? Greg: Like what what yeah. If you're a business leader, I feel like your business should be the leading thing. You know how people say, hey, the owner of. You know what I mean? Like even with Tillman, I, you know, there's some shady stuff stuff that goes on with Tillman Fertito, but when he saw it, it was like, yeah, the owner of Landry Seafood and We'll do like we saw we we led with the business. You're just calling me a leader. Jax: It says he's the owner of a growth oriented investment firm. Greg: That sounds so fucking vague. Jax: Like that's not a real thing. Greg: Hey, d hey, Jax: Yeah. Greg: hey, this how hey this this how that nigga Koulibaly used to used to get niggas. Just like this. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: It's like you can't you can't tell me. That's wild. But apparently apparently he sold it or apparently he's buying it for 4.5 billion. Not only the t the Timberwolves, but the Minnesota Lynx are attached to it. and after further review, I was making a joke and saying, Hey, maybe that point five is where, you know, that was that was for the WNBA team. But it might be lower than that. Jax: Yeah. Greg: 'Cause apparently a record a record breaking purchase is three hundred mil. So I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing Jax: He just he just lumped all of them together. Greg: it. Jax: How fast you think he's gonna sell Greg: They probably just threw that hey, they probably just threw that bitch in there. Jax: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. How fast do you think he's gonna sell the team? 'Cause the dude he just bought it from only owned the team for what, a season? Greg: Yeah, June twenty twenty five, so a calendar year and some change. You know A year and a half. I could see a year and half. Cause if nigg if niggas this I'm saying Jax: Yeah. Cause the dude he bought it from came like three billion. If I can make a three billion profit in a year, okay. Greg: If I'm seeing if they selling the Lakers, if if niggas selling the ta the Lakers in ten months, Anybody's up for grabs, bro. Like I feel like once owners saw that you could still make a profit and it don't even be a calendar year. I think I think it just kinda opened the floodgates a little bit. We're gonna see these niggas flip a little bit more often. Jax: Yeah, I think I think you're always gonna be able to make a profit no matter what on a on a sports franchise until there's like a gigantic like recession. Greg: Niggas not even breaking even. They like legit getting a extra billion every time. Jax: When whenever whenever Jerry Jones passes away and his like children are left to fight over the Cowboys, it's finna be it's finna be crazy. That's all I can say. Greg: gonna be a bloodbath, bro. It's gonna be I will be there. I will be there to watch it, but my God. Jax: It's g it's gonna be worse than something we're gonna talk about later on in the episode, but Greg: My God. But yeah, let's go ahead and talk about the things we do care about. First topic up, let's let's go into let's go into college football. Cause there's a story out there in Texas and and TCU by the name of Jacob Fields. Not Justin. Jacob Fields, who got dismissed from the football team. after getting into a fight with another player that was left hospitalized after the altercation. Before I say any information, Jax, just off that headline alone, what was going through your mind when you first said that? When you when you first heard this story? Jax: I've been I heard about this before, so I've been like keeping up with it in the background, but like that no actual information had been released. So I just saw like, he got dismissed from the team. Then I saw, he got dismissed from the sauce. So I was like, he beat one of his teammates up and they dismissed. I was like, I I guess teammates fight. I don't know why, I guess. But then I saw like more stories, and it came out that there were reports that like he was the one getting bullied. So he just beat the other guy up. And now I'm like. They think he did anything. If that's if that's accurate, like the cause there's a whole lot of reporting saying that. So if that is accurate Greg: Absolutely. Jax: and they were just bullying him and he finally had enough and he beat the guy up, I'm it's hard to find issue with that, especially because people were saying that he went to the coaches multiple times and the coaches weren't really taking it seriously, which I can sort of understand because they're just like, you know, football players fight, like that's a thing that happened. So coaches are probably like, yeah, yeah, whatever. But no, it became something serious, bro. Serious enough that like they had to report him to like the police and everything. So I don't I don't know. I don't think he did nothing bad. It's just a very weird Greg: no, he did something bad, nigga. Hey, if you hospitalize Jax: What did he do? Greg: somebody, you you put the beats on that nigga bed, bro. Like you you for sure put that put belt you put belt on that. I'm not saying that he's not justified. Let me let me not say that. Cause baby, if we're saying that this story is true, that he got bullied and somebody alleged allegedly they're saying, dude got spat on. Look. Jax: Yeah. Greg: When stuff like that happens and then you go to the coach and talking about, they bullying me, I already know how this is going. They really on some rich it's gonna feel like that Richie Richie incognito type situation where it's like, brother. my God, you let a grown man bully you. But mind you, this is not like this is not like an alleged scrub. This is like a a player that is actually good, was supposed to be a starter. Jax: Yeah, they got him in the transfer portal because of that. He was one of the top like thankies coming out. Greg: For their team. Yeah, he was, he was co-defensive player of the year for Conference USA. he he was he was running with the ones. So in my mind, I was like, damn. I normally see like freshmen that get the bullies. You know what I mean? I never really thought of like the transfer portal nigga that's nice with it. Jax: Answer World Star. Yeah. Greg: I didn't I didn't know that was kinda how that went, but ultimately the second thing I thought about was Not gonna lie, I think Jacob Fields, and I'm not saying he's wrong, I think he snuck that nigga. I I think that's what it was. I don't think it Jax: I mean like Greg: was, I don't think it was because me personally, I'ma say this. I don't think it was a fight where both people were like putting their hands up and really trying to like get after it because most fights, whether it be locker room, football, whatever. There's always a nigga there or there's a group of people there that's gonna make sure that we take niggas off of each other. Like there's gonna be somebody to try to break it up at least. And two, if it's an anticipated fight, you know that video gets dropped on TikTok. Like that leak is dropped. We gonna see it. I think. Jax: It won't it wouldn't be no video leak from this. It wouldn't be no video leak from this. Not from this. Greg: Nah, yeah, because it's because it wasn't anticipated. It wasn't anticipated. Jax: No, even if it was, I don't think they wouldn't have no the TCU players, they wouldn't have even if they did take videos, they wouldn't have leaked it to nothing. Cause there's probably Greg: Well Jax: there's probably hella fights in college football that happen all the time that we just do not see. So I don't think I don't think we really do for real. I feel like the ones we Greg: And we see and we see some of them hoes. We for sure see some of them hoes. I sure I'll be seeing them. Jax: do see, if we do see them, would be very few and far between. So I don't even I don't think they would have recorded anything like that. And they were also in the locker room. So there's that too. Greg: don't mean shit. Antonio Brown let you know that we don't give a fuck about no locker rooms, nigga. We go on, we gonna we go on Jax: Antonio Brown doesn't Greg: IT Live. Jax: Antonio Brown doesn't give a fuck about anything. Greg: But like for you to brutalize somebody, because apparently I think he he broke his jaw and this is what the alleged reporting. It's like he broke his broke broke that dude's jaw and I think what escalated even further, the nigga was using hands, hands and feet. When a nigga use hands and feet, that's when it starts getting a little i it it it teaches that next level of yo, if you don't stop this nigga. You it might be worse than just an injury. You might kill this nigga if you don't settle this nigga down. These niggas all are strong. These are strong men that go into Jax: They say he might but they say he might have spit on him. And if somebody spits on you, you low key you can hands, feet and other you can use hands, feet, and other objects on Greg: You I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm saying like I can see I can see this being a thing if he got caught off guard. On God. Like, and I'm not saying he's wrong for that. I'm just saying. If it was a fair if it if it was like a fade of, hey, I'm I'm trying to it's up when I see you in the locker room. I feel like it wouldn't have gone to this degree. Cause they're saying this nigga finna miss the fucking opener. Now it could Jax: I didn't Greg: be a it could be a Geno Smith thing. It could be the nigga rocked him so hard. Hey, it could be. I'm not, I'm not opposed to that. Jax: That's what I was thinking. But it could have just been like a one hit thing, like I'm trying to bink that nigga and broke his jaw. It could have been Greg: well hey well hey I'ma stop you right there. We know for sure it was not a one hit thing. That it was it was a few it was a few strikes. But I get it though, because you don't spit in my fucking face, nigga. Don't spit in my fucking face. And then me trying to look hey, I ain't gonna lie. Me looking up this shit, me looking up the the the article and like who the players are and like looking at different YouTube videos and stuff. Man, I'm starting I I saw a lot of them them comments was getting crazy. Them there's a whole bunch of Hoteps in the comment section, man. It was a whole bunch of FBA ass niggas because the the other dude, the the nigga that got his ass beat was like, I don't know if he was Nigerian, but he was like another like he was he was African. Jax: Now is not the time What? Greg: And they was like, you see, you see how they like, whoa, hey, this not the this not Jax: Where is like where's the correlation? Greg: the time. He's like, you see how Jax: Hello. Greg: they do? And and they was saying that word, but I don't know if I'm allowed to say that word, that T word. But they was like, they was getting Jax: Z word. Greg: after it. I'm like, okay. Jax: Hmm. Greg: Whole bunch, whole bunch of black American flags in the comment section. I'm like, this this the type of party. I was like, damn. Jax: I would have never expected I would have never expected that in that comment said, What the hell? Greg: I'm just trying to look up football, nigga. I got hoteps all down my shit just. Jax: That's so like that's that's so odd. That's all like that's that's weird, bro, I guess. Greg: It's so fucking weird. I'm like, this is what we're here with it? Damn. It's is but but Fields' agent also came out and said, Hey, there's a lot of stuff that's been kinda amplified and there's a lot of false narrative going on, but through it all, he's taken full responsibility. he's very remorseful for his actions and he he also agrees that it was best to part ways with the with the organization as well. So it's not just like he got kicked out. He thought it was also best to leave as well. so It's gonna be hard to figure out Jax: In fact, Greg: if he lands on his feet after this, but I don't know. It's weird. Jax: Know where he can go, like who he can drink, because like college is basically starting already, like with admission. He still like he still has to get enrolled in school, in even if he doesn't really have to take classes for he still has to get enrolled in the college in the first place. Like scholarships have already been given out. So I don't it's very in the season finished art. So it's very shit. Unfortunate for really everybody lost in this one. Not gonna lie to you, everybody lost. Greg: Yeah, and then with the guy that got his ass beat, 'cause apparently he was a wide receiver. So like is the ass beating the punishment? Like he don't get no other further thing? Jax: I mean sh it seemed like but yeah. That was his his consequence was his punishment. Greg: I mean look, if you beat me bad in the a if you beat me bad enough where I'm in a hospital and we're missing opening n opening day is like the twenty seventh or twenty eighth for some of these, it's Jax: It's it's so, it's so. Greg: soon. And this happened August thirteenth. So this was a real beating, nigga. I'm not gonna lie, like he's still in the hospital. Jax: Yeah, and if if the if the broken jaw thing is real, then he's not playing no time soon. He broke his fucking jaw. So I Greg: I'm saying I don't think he's I don't think he's out of the hospital yet. Jax: How for how the Gino Gino didn't miss the whole season, did he? Greg: Hell no. Hell no he didn't. But I mean maybe Gino's a different nigga, but that was still Jax: Yeah. Greg: a crazy. That's crazy because a nigga was bringing up Gino in the same comment section. And it was like, hmm. And who hit him? I'll say, bro, please. Bro. Bro, please. Bro, stop. Jax: Alright, bro. All right. Let's talk about these niggas weird. Let's let's keep it c let's keep a college sports though, 'cause a lot has been ha we've talked about this phenomenon, this whatever you want to call it for a very long time, but First it started a little bit more with college players, how they're able to go back to school. Yeah, go back to school after they've been previously drafted and r or played in the G League, some even logged NBA minutes. So that's been a thing that's been going on. We've talked about it and how much we think it's a terrible idea in the first place. Or at least how much we think it's stupid. But now this is beginning to happen currently with NFL players. a lot of players I think a couple from like the Browns or a couple of rookies or whatever from the Browns, the Seahawks. And it was like I think the Cardinals as well. They were like, hey, since we can go back to college now, can you release us from our contracts? Cause this whole NCAA thing is happening and people are, you know, wanting to be released so they can go back to college and enter the transfer portal. But now the NCAA, or not the NCAA, but the I guess the government dropped a ruling that sided with the NCAA now that these players can't go back to college football. It's a whole I don't even It's a whole everything, I'm not gonna lie to you. But it says the Greg: Yes. Jax: Tenth Circuit has granted the NCAA's state request in the Wisney versus NCAA case. it means qualify or the qualifying class of twenty twenty-two athletes lose their federal fifth season protection now. Cause a ruling came out that's saying all that said all athletes that were that came in college within class of twenty twenty-two because of COVID and everything, they they're legally obligated to have a fifth season. So that's why players were coming back. But Now the government's saying no you can't do that. And the NCAA is happy. they released a statement saying basically thanks. Thank you for saving our bitch ass lives. But like this whole thing, it's still not done, though. It's still not over. Because there's still more court rulings, court filings, more appeals. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: What can I like? Can the toothpaste go back in the tube with this anymore or is this just reality now? Greg: Yeah, I mean I just really feel like It's kinda like for me, like it's kinda hard to just be like super hard on some of these players because COVID did fuck up a lot of shit. Like COVID COVID COVID really did it. And the way they had the framework for NIL and stuff, it was happening during that time for like twenty twenty two. I kinda compare twenty twenty two like high school seniors during twenty twenty. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: They just kinda got fucked up in all of this stuff. Like it just kind of they got the worst of it 'cause at least the people before them in twenty and twenty twenty one, they got their fifth year eligibility. They were able to kind of maximize certain things and get NIL money and we knew the play for some of them. We understood that they weren't gonna make real NFL money. So they maximized their extra years of eligibility to go into that NIL and do all this extra stuff. But from The people after 2022. These are people that are kind of like full swing in this new system and are getting the NIL stuff that they deserve, and they're getting their money and all that stuff. And it leaves 2022 in this like little limbo of like, okay, like we're not really benefiting like the new system is, but you're not really granting us that fifth year like you did for us, you know, that you did for others. It's it's it's kind of like when. when when prom gets canceled for the seniors in in in twenty twenty. It's like, we're just kind of pushing you along the way. Like, all right, nigga, like we're it sucks to suck. And they're trying to like figure out a way to kind of get bread and and all that other stuff. So Jax: a a few other things about this whole about the ruling where there's a federal ruling, so like you said, there's no longer a blanket ruling for the fourth year players from twenty twenty two to have a fifth year. It doesn't impact the state rulings of the fifth year. So players who 'cause there are some players who have returned back to school and so those players they will now need their like the state that their school is in, they'll now need like rulings from their state to be eligible. And time for those is short because you know they're running out of time to stay eligible. And the calendar favors favors the NCAA here 'cause like I said, the season is finna start. So it's now all these players who are SL who are S O L have to rush to try and be able to play again. So you s but you say you still think like the toothpaste can go back in the tube with this though. Greg: Yeah, I I still think it's still salvageable because we're still you know, they're they're finally at least putting a cutoff to it of like, okay, well, twenty twenty-two, all right, no more, and we can kind of focus on the framework that we have for just upcoming the the rest of the people coming in. 'cause twenty twenty two also got hold 'cause that's when that transfer portal was getting super sticky, where they're like, Hey man, look, we just gonna get the best available niggas via transfer portal. which left eighteen and nineteen year olds by the wayside in some of these discussions. Jax: That was that was that was low key like early trans report when it was just if it was crazy. Yeah. Greg: It was it was the wild, wild west. So they got hold. Then once you finally get established, you can't even salvage the the the year, like the one or two years that you kinda got hold. So now they're holding you on the back end. It's like, okay, yeah. I know you only got truly only one good year of game tape, maybe even two. No, we're not giving you that fifth year. So I do kind of feel for them from that hindsight, like i the it's not the same as like These twenty eight, twenty nine year old niggas like trying to live out their dreams. Not every not all of them are like that. Yeah. Jax: Pe people like that, y'all y'all are criminals. And I feel like some of them might still be in school. Y'all are y'all are crimin y'all are criminals beating up on children. Greg: Yeah, it's Jax: Y'all literally taking candy from babies. Y'all need to quit it. Greg: Yeah. And I think I think the whole premise of it is they want to make sure that they're kinda treating those situations like outliers. because they don't want to turn it into a thing where we're having conversations when you have like these NBA players that are doing like the Enos Cantor thing, but like in C double A style of like, whoa, I can that means Jax: Lord. Greg: bro, I can go back all right, nigga, like we know the bro This is for a specific type of a person. you do not we don't have Jax: Yeah, you do not fit that criteria. Stop it, please. You can fit that criteria, but you not we b we all know you're not gonna do it. So I don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna hear it, Greg: You not willing to get it out the mud like that. You not trying to You not trying to follow through, bitch ass nigga. You not trying to do that. Jax: bro. I do not wanna hear it from them niggas. Because if you really buy it, then do it. If not, Greg: But like Jack's like ha Jax: then be quiet. Greg: But like Jax, like what's I kinda wanted to hear your thoughts on it. like I know you phrase it as, you know, the the toothpaste not being able to get back in the tool, but like what what side are you on with this? Like where where are you standing with this? Jax: Everybody involved, I'm not gonna lie, bro. I feel like like being complete, like because I know the well, I think all the colleges now they come out or came out with the thing where if you declare for the draft, you can still come back to like now like back then or maybe a couple years before, before it became all this whatever, this big mess. It was like, you know, if you declare for the draft, you are now able to come back from that if you you know get a grade that you don't like. I remember that being a whole thing, and like I'm okay with stuff like that. But like once you declare for the draft, once you leave school, declare for the draft and say, No, I'm let me try to get drafted. If you don't get drafted or whatever, like I don't think you should be able to go back to school. You shouldn't be able to go back to school as an athlete in my opinion. So I'm not really a fan of these players going back to the school, especially this late in the game, 'cause it's messing like If you're trying to get on a team, it'll probably like mess up the whole whatever they got going on in the first place. So that's why I don't like that. But then also with the NCAA, like I don't even necessarily want to agree with them because I feel like a lot of this, you know, the sandwiches they're doing because they all this all all the problems that are currently happening in the in the NCAA stem from them not wanting to pay the players in the first place. And that all this snowballed into this gigantic mess it is it it's in now. So that's why I'm like, I don't Like it feels weird signing with the NCAA 'cause I do not like like this is this is all their fault. This is literally all their fault. But I also agree that these players should not be coming back to school. So I don't even how I feel is very I don't know, it's weird, but I just like I said I I hate all parties involved. I really do. All of y'all suck. Greg: I I think I stand I stand specifically with class of twenty twenty. I stand with Jax: That's right. Greg: them with whatever they're trying to do, cause they really did get hold. Niggas for niggas that didn't know what what the wild, wild west looked like when they were just Jax: Yeah. Greg: appearing freshman year college and they still had to wear masks and shit. It was it was different and and it reflected in the NFL draft. No shade. I'm not trying to Well, we were really wearing masks, bro. Like it was it was Hey, we had to show our Jax: We was really wearing masks, bro. That's so gr that's so wild. Greg: We had to show her our I don't even know where my vaccine card is. You remember we had to like show our vaccine card? Jax: No, I see I haven't I was like, dang, I haven't seen this in forever, bro. Greg: I think I think it's somewhere in my mom's house or whatever. I remember I had to like screenshot it. Jax: You had to show that to get into play. Like that's insane, bro. Like they would not let you in. Greg: That was Hey Hey niggas was at camp with a mask on. Jax: Niggas were niggas Greg: That was counterintuitive. Jax: they were at camp where they were at camp like it was normal, which was the issue. That's why the pandemic went on so long. Greg: They were standing in line with the mask and once they got in they took that bitch off. Jax: No cow. Smoking hookah and everything. Like what are you doing? It's an airport. Greg: Hey, cut a cut ain't cutting a mask in the middle and smoking hookah through the mask. That shit's not doing anything, bro. Jax: And sharing passing the sharing the hookah like no. Like just because you get a new hookah tip does not mean it's okay. Like y'all are all breathing in Greg: No nigga, this was bad. Jax: the same. Greg: they'll just move they'll move the mask up so the nose is out. Nigga, you're breathing it. Just take the mask off at that. At that point, just it's over. Jax: But no not to sidetrack you from your point though. Greg: Nah. 'Cause that shit was crazy. And w and it was Texas. So you had I remember there was like rednecks. Hey, take that mask off. I can't hear you talk. I'm like, whoa. Jax: Nigga, first of all, yes you can. This mask is a flimsy pa like the low key the mask wasn't doing Greg: God damn. Fuck. shit. Jax: With like Loki, the Greg: What Jax: like I did wear my mask, but low key like them little the standard like little blue hospital, those weren't doing anything, to be completely honest. Like they were doing like a Greg: Not a goddamn thing. Jax: a little bit, but like that shit like you could you could hear exactly what I was saying through that mask. It wasn't muffled, so stop it, please. Greg: Come on now. Let's let's let's let's chill that out. But yeah, like like NCAA, do your job. Cause even the the framework after 2022, you still got other things to address. Cause it shit's far from over. and then the people of the past, you know, the people that are already in the league or whatever, like, they've already got the best of both worlds. They already like got their eligibility. You got your 26 and 27 Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: year olds that That hooped and and got their opportunity and now they're like riding the benches all in the NFL. I don't want to nitpick and talk shit about that 2021 draft class in the NFL. but we can we can tell it was a COVID year based off of how niggas was scouting some of those quarterbacks. I won't name but it's out there. Jax: I'm gonna be honest, I still believe in tra I still believe in Trey Lance. I don't care. If respectfully, if Greg: That's true. That's Trey Ariel, man. Jax: Tua, like if Tua still get a shot, if Michael Penix Jr., who, you know, he still keeps getting shots even though he's always hurt and all that, if Deshaun still gets a shot, Dylan Gabriel still gets a shot. Well, Michael Penix. I remember I get that Greg: I'm off that I'm off that train. I'm off that I'm off that Michael Pendicks train. I was off that I I was off that Michael Pendix train as soon as he had that wedding and I saw his waves. I was like, there's no way you're wearing waves. This guy all day, all night, and them hoes is really not spinning like that. They cool like Jax: Like there was it was anyway, but like for for him to wear the do-rag excessively, it's like, come on, bro. But like Greg: Come on, bro. No. Jax: I remember I get that hot take out like Michael Pension is the best quarterback in that draft. That was takes hot for a reason. Takes hot for a reason. No, Caleb Williams was in that draft. Drake May was in that is that wasn't Caleb Williams Greg: Damn. Well well who else was Hill went. yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. Jax: and Drake May? Wasn't them right? Greg: Yeah. Yeah, 'cause Bo Nicks was in there, right? No, Jax: Or was that Jane? Yeah. Greg: no, yeah. Jax: Or was that Jane D was w whatever that draft was. It was was the same draft. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Greg: Jane Dan Jaden Daniels was in that same draft. Yeah, same draft. Yeah, Jay. Damn. He had that nigga over. Jaden Daniels and Caleb. Damn. Jax: Yeah, no, I was I was I was tweaking. I was tweaking. That was my fault. Greg: my god. Jax: But like niggas like him, if nigga like Deshaun, Dylan Gabriel, Shador, I'm like, if they got shots, Trey Land's could be better than all. Greg: Well, well, wait, well, he not the worst. He not the he well, it was still it's Pennyx wasn't the worst in there. Nine was in that draft. Nine nine was for sure Jax: I forgot what Greg: in that draft. I was never a believer of him. Jax: Yeah, no. Greg: You saw that meme? That at the Atlanta Fox of Michael Pennyx like pointing the tour? What's up? Jax: He probably wouldn't even say nothing bad, but it's just the video Greg: It's just Jax: got it, it's over. It's over. Greg: Cinema. Cinema, bro. God, but Yeah. Jax: Let let's move to the let's move to the NBA though, 'cause a couple few ac yeah, a few transactions that happened. So starting things off what really would start the ball rolling. Peyton Watson, he got traded from the Denver Nuggets to the Cavs. So it's the Clevel or Cleveland, Denver, and the Clippers. They've agreed on the trades and then Peyton Watson to the Cavs, Max Struess the Clippers, and an unprotected 2031 first round Cavs pick in a 2032 King second rounder to the Nuggets. And Peyton Watson, he then signed a four year eighty eight million dollar deal with the Cavs. only thing I say about this is twenty thirty one that does not sound like a real year, even though it's coming up low key relatively soon. But it don't feel like a real year to me. Greg: Say yo, like that's like six years away, five years away. Yeah. Jax: Five years. 2030 don't these years don't seem real, but this Peyton Watson, this whole transaction, it allowed it made room for you know the Cav to go ahead and sign James Harden to a three-year 97 million dollar contract with a player option and a trade kicker. We already knew that this was going to happen. Greg: He still got a pl he still got a player option off that? wow. Jax: James Harden, bro. How old is James? Is he thirty seven or thirty eight? Greg: Probably thirty Jax: Thanks. Greg: probably about the turn thirty eight. Jax: James Harden is thirty six years old. But he's turn Greg: Okay. Jax: he's turning thirty seven in five days. Greg: Literally. Okay. Yeah, so that that'll put him at thirty nine at the end of Jax: You think he how long you think he's gonna play? You think he's playing? I don't he's definitely not playing till LeBron's age. Although like low-key, Greg: He might read Jax: James Harden like an ageless wonder ass nigga, because he's been going crazy and hooping Greg: Yeah. Jax: low-key the same, like the same style at least for his entire career. And he still can't be stopped. Greg: Yeah, his athleticism is like a different type of athleticism where he doesn't need like that crazy, like quick twitch type of, you know, situation if he loses his his Yeah. Jax: As long as he's still strong as hell too. So he's that's never for it. Greg: You know, as long as you got Moses Malone Juniors out here in the world, he's always gonna be strong. He always gonna get his weight up. But yeah, I th yeah, I think out of him I I think because it's a player option. Yeah, I think he t I I think he uses all three of them years. I d he just doesn't seem like a nigga that's just gonna leave money on the floor. Jax: Yeah, he said he's not doing that no more. He said he's not doing that no He was like, I did that Greg: Yeah. So like Jax: in Houston and I'm never doing that again. Or no, he said he did that in Brooklyn. He was like, I'm never doing that again, which is valid because that Brooklyn thing was terrible. And it wasn't it wasn't his fault either. It was it was COVID's fault. Greg: That was that was terrible. Wasn't his fault. Wasn't his fault, so Jax: It was twenty twenty twenty twenty two. It was that fault. Greg: God. So like thirty ass. So he'll be like thirty nine Jax: Yeah. Greg: by the by the by the time it's time to pick up that player option. And I know he's gonna pick it up. He's the type of person where he'll do it, pick up the player option and then get traded somewhere like Houston or something like that, like and just and Jax: You think he's still I mean, well if it's he was thinking like end his career there, I guess. But like you think he's still like Greg: I think it was ended there. Jax: gonna be a valuable like at thirty eight people gonna wanna trade for James well, people don't want to trade for James Harden right now. Greg: I don't yeah, niggas I I don't know. When it comes to James Harden, I simply just do not know. Be so honest with you, Jax: That's very good. Greg: but but he's definitely not gonna be bronze age. I think this is gonna be his last crazy contract. Well this will this will be the last time we see some ninety seven mil type shit. It's like basically thirty thirty mil a year. Which in the grand scheme of things, that's not the craziest contract in the world, deem other people but that's what happens when you're dealing with a timeless player, but yeah, I I I'm not mad at it though. I mean, you didn't get bronze, so you gotta keep somebody. Jax: Yeah. But next deal that happened, DeMar DeRozan. He is going to go ahead and sign with the Denver Nuggets. Year 18. That feels crazy, year 18 for DeMar, but this is year eighteen for Damar DeRozan. Shoot. Yeah, shoot. Greg: Damn he a year eighteen? I didn't know that. Really? Damn, okay, so this is yeah, 'cause everybody in O nine, this eight, nine class, that makes sense 'cause he's the same class as Harden, right? Jax: Yes. Greg: Yeah, 09 is Rosen, Curry, Harden, Blake Griffin. It's a nice little draft class. Okay, the Jax: Yeah, that's nice though. Greg: Yeah, that's a fucking crazy draft class. I'm still missing some people. Ricky Rubio. Jeff T, Jax: Well, Jetty. Greg: Ricky Rubio. but yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm I'm actually not mad at this. I'm not. Jax: I like to see what he can do, what he can bring to the Nuggets. He's not gonna you know, the Nuggets are still defensively deficient. They've always been, so that's not gonna change. But Damar, no matter what, he's a bucket. You can that's one thing you can always say about him. So when Jamal Murray has his inevitable struggles, 'cause he always goes cold randomly for a little bit and he's like, Why the fuck are you like this because you're such you're so much better than that. So why are you doing this? But tomorrow he's always gonna be a bucket with Joker getting the passes to him, Joker, you know, being a threat from three, same with Jamal Murray. I'll leave room for DeRozan to operate in mid rain. So like I ain't Greg: Absolutely. Jax: I'm not mad at it, you know. Fuck it. Why not? Greg: Yeah, literally. Like wha what's the worst that could happen? I mean who was who was in that spot before? Michael Porter Jr. Jax: Pain wasn't. Greg: Or Peyton Watson, yeah. Jax: But even then, Marta Rosen is a walking twenty, or did he have a twenty last year? I don't know. He's a walking like eighteen to twenty. Greg: He was yeah, he was he was in the twenties. Jax: Yeah, he's a walking eighteen plus points. So Peyton Watson wasn't doing that. So we'll see. I don't think it takes him over the edge or anything like that, but it's Joker or Jokic is still Jokic, so he might do something. Greg: Yeah, they're ba yeah. Yeah, they about a decade too late for that shit. Jax: Yeah, for sure. Greg: It's. But I don't Jax: But now, next transaction, next thing that happened that Loki just happened a little bit before we started recording. Klay Thompson is hasn't been finalized, or at least I don't think it's been finalized, but he's expected to sign with the Miami Heat after he clears waivers, after a buyout with the Mavericks. And then I think they said he's gonna get a 13, a two-year, $13 million deal with like a player option or something like that. And you know what? Also another, fuck it, why not? Because The Heat needs some shooters somewhere. They got Giannis and Bam and what Wigan's still there, right? Or I'm tripping. Greg: Wiggins is still there, I think. Jax: Yeah, Giannis Ban, Wiggins, Davion Mitchell, like none of them niggas can shoot for real. So get one of the best shooters ever. Even though he's a little bit washed, respectful, he'll probably tell you that himself, but he's he's he can still shoot, you know. Greg: I mean, you need to replace something when you let go Tyler Hero. We gotta get somebody that's a lighter complexion. Balance this shit out. Make Pi Pat Riley a little bit more happier. you know, Klay Thompson's another nigga that got a hold. And Jax: Why you say that? wait, no n never mind. I know exactly why you said that 'cause he said he expected to play with Luca and them niggas. Ruined his life. Greg: Yeah, like he he came there. I I'm ready to play with Luca and they trade that nigga his fur. I'm like, had I known this, I would have Jax: You should the whole reason I came to play here. Greg: I would have just stayed in Golden State had I just if I knew this was gonna go down. And when people Jax: Like bro. Greg: and when people would say that in like interviews, he was like try to be respectful and not like try to answer that question, but you saw it in his face. Yes, nigga, like I would have never gone here. I came here specifically. To hoop with Luca and Kyrie and then Kyrie splits his shit. So now we're down two stars. Two months. Three months. Like a month because he got he got hurt Jax: And he really only played with Luga for like maybe like a month for real, 'cause Luka got hurt and was out for like a month. Greg: and then got traded. And then a month after he got traded, Kyrie got hurt in March. Jax: Nico bears. Greg: And then you play and then you play with A D and then A D fucks his shit up and he's they shut that nigga down for the rest of the season and then the next season go in, they trade him. His highlight has been playing with Cooper Flag, which is nothing, there's nothing wrong with that. But that's not what he signed up for. Come on now. Jax: But that's not what that's not you came here for, bro. Like that's not what I was trying to do. Greg: Meanwhile, there's a nigga making 100 mil wearing number 23 for the Golden State Warriors. And there's a nigga with curly hair that they keep talking about over there for the Golden State Warriors that they refuse to put in trade talks. That wants 30 mil. Yeah, I'd be a little pissed. And the woman that I used to talk to is telling my business. I'm not having a good time. Jax: And she's still and she's still fine. Like and there's nothing Greg: She's not yeah. She's fine. Jax: I can do like that. Greg: So you know what I so you know what I'm doing as a black man? Going to Miami. That's gonna solve my problem. That's gonna make me free he liked boats. I remember that. That nigga Jax: Yeah, that's Greg: love boats. Jax: I know he was mad as fucking Dallas after they traded him like you can't you can't sell nowhere. Greg: He was so mad. And I feel like that puts his rel like and I don't even like talking about niggas' relationship, but I feel like that put a relationship in in perspective. Like how can Meg really cheer you up for real when shit going like like on the court, shit like this going on? Jax: Yeah. Greg: Meg was doing from the st there was nothing Meg could have done, bro. She tried her best. She's not Luca. God. She's Jax: Nico Harrison Nik Nico Harrison ruined that relationship. Greg: not Luka. It don't matter what she do, cook, clean, she can't average 25, 14, and 8. Jax: Honestly, if Luca was there, they'd probably still be together. You Greg: ON GO Jax: would probably would have proposed, not gonna hold you. Greg: Yes, they bought a house together. Jax: They bought a house to kill my God. Greg: Yes, Jax: Lord Jesus. Greg: Hey that nigga was going crazy. Hey, hey, that nigga was going crazy. Jax: Wha why did you buy a house? Were they even together that long? I'm I Greg: That's just rich nigga shit. Nigga just doing shit. Jax: No fair. Fair fair fair I guess, bro. I guess. If it's not really nothing to you, then fuck it. Why not, bro? Greg: Let's fuck it. Let's go let's just go do it. Nah bruh, that's man, Clay, Clay Thompson feels like the embodiment of I miss my granny. Like that that that's how this nigga like when I start seeing this nigga like do stuff, I'm Jax: What? Greg: like, Clay, what? That nigga miss his granny, bro. On God he do. On God he do. Jax: one more one more thing that I forgot to talk about. Or the Jalen Darren. We ain't gotta stay on this too long. But Jalen Duran, the he still ain't been signed. And them contract talks they say are going absolutely horrible. And he hates the Pistons. The Pistons sort of hate him back. Not like the players, but I'm saying like the organization. Yeah, like Greg: No, no, no, for sure. Yeah. Jax: so it's just like, damn, that playoff ruins his life. That playoff ruins his life. Greg: No way. This is bad for him, but like this is unfortunate. Jax: Yeah. Greg: It it's so bad that I low key kind of low key kinda forgot. You heard Ben Simmons is trying to get back in the league? Jax: Benjamin, stop it. Now is not the time. Now is not the time, Benjamin. Let's not do this. Greg: Tasha, please. Jax: Like now is not the now is not the time, Ben. Let's it'd be anywho, let's let's talk about let's talk about your favorite person in the NBA. Adam Silver. Frankly, you know what? Greg: Excuse me. My favorite? Jax: It's not even the Adam Silver of it. Let's just let's just break the whole of everything down. Cause it's a this this Kawai situation is it's already been out of hand and now just keeps getting like I don't even know if I want to say keeping Greg: Right ahead. Jax: it worse or keep getting more and more annoying. It's just like, bro, what the hell is going on? But recently, this came out. this came out October, or not October, but I say October, but August 17th. And says the MB, this ESPN article, and says that the NBA has found no evidence that Clippers owner Steve Bomer funded or funneled money through team sponsors to pay Kawhi Leonard and circumvent their salary cap. the NBA is instead focused on whether the team's introduction of Kawhi to team sponsors constitutes a violation of the league's rules prohibiting salary cap circumvention. So this report came out basically saying, like, nothing happened with Kawhi. And this had everybody, including me, in like a frenzy of like, my gosh, Adam Silver, you fucking suck. We hate you. And this, that, and the third. But I think like maybe like an hour later. the NBA dropped Meet the Grams and are not even necessarily really Meet the Grams for real, but they just an official statement. This is all they said. This really is Meet the Grams. It's a black statement, white lettering, no, nothing else. It just says NBA spokesman Mike Bass, ESPN's article regarding the LA Clippers investigation for which the NBA declined to cooperate in, contains numerous and significant inaccuracies. The results in this matter will be made clear once the investigation is concluded. So the NBA, like we said, just fire back and say everything you read in that ESPN article, don't believe it. Where do we go from here? Like we know what we know what happened. Greg: The NBA basically just Jax: We know what Kawhi did. Like, even if y'all want to act like, no, he didn't. And just cause he had sponsored, like, be be for real. If you're gonna be anything, please be for real. Like, we know what happened. Rectify this Adam Silver, like figure out a solution so we can all move on. Because he's been caught red-handed. Like Kawhi's been caught right-handed. Steve Barr's been caught right-handed. Just like do something, nigga. Damn. Like that mean we're like the whatever the fuck is poking something with a stick, like, do something, damn. Like, that's what I feel like. Greg: I think people that Don't give a fuck about this or don't find an issue about this or or clowning certain situations. it's not I I'm not gonna go the idiot route because that's Jax's job. That's that's Jax: Don't worry, I will. I will go this year. Greg: that's Jax's job. You know what I mean? And he does that very well. All right. Jax: Yeah. Greg: When I try, I say a slur by accident. So I stopped. I retired. I retired from those from those things. I let Jax do it a little bit more eloquently. Jax: Probably. Greg: But I'ma just go a different approach. I would like for the people that don't care, take a look, take a look at the MLB right now. Take a look at baseball. Okay. And look at what's going on and look at the conversations about to happen because very soon they're about to be in a lockout. And the reason why they're gonna be in a long ass lockout is because of shit like this. Shit like this, when shit didn't get nipped in the bud, when shit wasn't being held accountable earlier on with MLB and certain things where rules were being broken or this wasn't a part of the rule book or this was happening and people weren't getting punished, all hell broke loose and people started saying, you know what? Fuck it. If they not gonna get in trouble, nigga, try your best to stop me too. I'm gonna do some shit and y'all just gonna have to stop me. Legally. Like you just we're just gonna have to have a a fucking lockout or whatever the case may be. If this doesn't get addressed, NBA is going to a lockout. And I don't think people are understanding that that could be like a thing. And I know people aren't really talking about it, but let Steven Ballmer get away with this with no kind of repercussions. Don't like these niggas, the the owners are all it's a it people keep talking about it's a copycat league. We say this shit all the time. You don't think niggas gonna copycat Steven Barber? You don't think other like people are following on like they're they're falling under the premise of they believe that people are already doing this and people are still doing it, like Steve, Steven Barber just got caught. Even it is, we can cut the Jax: even if they are all of it's bad. Greg: cut this shit out. Cut this shit out and then won't get mad. These the same niggas that would get mad at niggas gambling. You the same nigga, these the same niggas that are mad at Terry Rozier. You mad at Jonte Porter. But you don't give a fuck that Steve Ballmer doing some shit. It's all in the same umbrella to me. Cut this shit out. You have stepping. This is like how I feel with you know, not liking James Harden but loving Luca Doncic. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Given little anti black man. Like, come on. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? So that's all I really Jax: And Greg: have to say with that. Jax: like with all the people who cause there's been cause Pablo or I'm saying Pablo Rotore, but Pablo Torre has been reporting on like all of this. He's the one that started this whole w witch hunt's the wrong word, 'cause it's an actual thing that's happening. So he's the one who started like this whole avalanche of everything that's going on now. And he keeps he's continuing to report. He's more he's finding out more and more information surrounding like Kawhi and his endorsement deals and he keeps putting out new episodes of his podcast and people keep being like and then like as soon as the N or the MB or as soon as the ESPN article came out saying that, we didn't find any problems with what Steve Ballmer was doing everybody sort of went to Pablo Tory and tried like dunk on him like see all your reporting was wrong. There are those people who were saying that even though this statement came out, there are people saying like bro who cares stop reporting. Why are you doing all this? Just let these people make their money blah blah. It's like or who cares? This is he didn't do anything illegal and it's just just because something's not illegal Greg: Those are clip those are Clippers fans. Jax: does not mean it's good. Like legality and morality are not the same thing. Like slavery was legal. Does that mean it was a good? No. Like, what are we fucking doing? Like, and everybody's like, my gosh, Pablo Torre, he's he needs to stop. I feel like as a society, we've just become desensitized to corruption on all forms of everything just because of the way like just life and the government and just everything's going on right now. So like we're used to scandals and we're used to corruption now. So we're all just like, he's not doing anything illegal. This is fine, because we just Gotten okay with this. Like, no, he's still like is this l il legal? No, but he's still cheating, which is wrong, which is why we should hold people to a higher standard, hold people to be better, because if we can't even get that from like if we can't get that from people who own basketball teams, even though they're billionaires, like who can we like expect that from? If people at like if people at the highest what level of whatever are able to do whatever they want, why do we think that's okay? Like, I don't I just don't like everybody who's saying like, this is nobody should care. Like y'all are dumbasses. Like this is an actual thing. Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: I'm not saying it's the most important thing in the world, but in terms of sports, this is like a like a really big moment, I feel like. And people are just brushing over it. Like, am I crazy for thinking that? Greg: This is a hu you're not crazy. I think a lot of it is loud, very loud Clippers fans that are talking in some of this shit. Jax: It's not no, it's not enough cli it's some there are some Clippers fans, but there's not enough Clippers fans to be as loud as all the stuff I've been seeing. A lot of people are just fucking stupid, bro. Like literally, that's it. Greg: Well, I think I think a lot of people don't they they first of all, I think a lot of people's attention spans are very just fucking fried due to social media. So they think if something doesn't instantly get done, they're kinda tired of hearing it. I think everybody's kinda on the same page of yo, I'm tired of some I'm tired of hearing this bullshit. Let's make up make up something. Like in their mind, if this didn't happen in that first two week span or a month that Pablo Torre officially like reported it in their mind, punish him or let it go. But I'm tired of like this this like, we like for a whole year. Granted, it has been a whole year. But I just don't think that's like the proper way to like assess the the situation. I don't think we should just say, hey, just let it go. Like they're they're kind of treating it like the the the bitter ex that can't get over his partner cheating. It's like that's not the same thing. This is this is a different kind of cheating. We we definitely tell them to let it go because it's like, yo, if you're not gonna leave or whatever, let do something. Jax: You it's your fault. Like if you're not gonna leave, Greg: It is your fault. Jax: it's your just let it go if you're not gonna leave, bro. Greg: Right. So I think what the Adam Silver thing is different because it's just like, yo, hey, I do agree with them. It has been way too long. And I actually am kind of tired of going through this preliminary round of it. So like let's do something. Jax: Also agree. I do agree one hundred percent with it has been a Greg: And doing something is not let it go. You don't have that option to just let it go like everybody else. You gotta hold somebody accountable, or else it sets a crazy precedent. I think that Owners outside of Mark Cuban, because Mark Cuban don't count. But like, I don't think other owners, he's not even an Jax: Mark I'm not even an owner no more. He's not even an owner no. Greg: owner no more. I think other owners are not being vocal or being vocal enough about it because this shit's gonna affect them. Because if they don't get this shit done, then it sets a precedent that hey, yeah, we may have a salary cap, but a salary cap don't mean shit. We don't really have a salary cap, which makes this shit feels like baseball, which makes Which makes the fan like the fans will really start to really understand. Hey, my owner, especially if you one of these owners that's flipping teams for s for set, like for ye like a one-year rental, hey, Jax: Yeah. Greg: they're not in it for the long haul. So they're not gonna pour the amount of money to make my team the best they can possible. They're trying to money grab this shit and then flip it. So when it's time for the the next wave or whatever, and we're seeing, hey, why do the Clippers, why are the Clippers always up here? Or or why are the New York Knicks always up here? Because yeah, they have endless money and they love the game and they love the sport. And it's bigger than a paycheck to them. So they're gonna cash out as much money as they can versus another team versus Tom Dundan. You will never, you're never gonna go up because we don't even have a salary cap. Hey He's always below the salary cap. Don't take the training wheels off. Jax: No. Greg: Don't let the nail no. So, yeah, I I just think, I think that's the problem. Too many important niggas are silent right now. And I think that's what's really not, that's not really, that's what's making people or like the audience not give a fuck as much because owners are not chirping about it. Other people. That are in the same position are not chirping about it. It's just Pablo Torre, Steve Ballmer, and Adam Silver that are like the main people that are talking. And they don't even like Adam Silver and Pablo Torrey talking. They don't even like them niggas' voices enough for them to be talking the way they're talking. And Steve Ballmer still has a good PR of, my God, like he's just one of those owners that you just, he he he'll just. You know, everybody wants a a owner like Steve Bomber 'cause they they're willing to do whatever it takes. Jax: Like for what is worth, I don't think Steve Balmer's like a bad guy. Like this is all just just shows how much of a diehard fan he is that he's going this hard because he's so I don't think Steve Ballmer's like a bad guy or anything like that. He just got caught. Like nigga, players fucked up. Fucked up. Greg: For sure. For sure. That's a that's a problem. Cause it 'cause if this nigga if this nigga was like a a Donald Sterling type of nigga, yeah, we would probably punish him all it would have been been done. But he's Steve Bomber, so it's is different. So yeah, I I like I said, calling you an idiot, that's Jax's job. Because that's what you are, but that wouldn't be that would be me Beating a dead horse. I think people have to look at it from a standpoint of like, your team is gonna get affected if this doesn't get situated. Like, just because we let it go and we sweep it under the rug, we see the repercussions. Just like the NCAA thought, hey, we could just push this across the rug and give niggas a fifth year after COVID. You know what I'm saying? Yes, Jax: Somebody somebody else gonna solve the problem for us. No. Greg: it'll it'll go away. Now you got. Now we got this bullshit that we gotta. You still gotta, you still gotta answer to this. You still gotta get all this shit together. So yeah, most importantly, especially if you are a Timberwolves fan, a Lakers fan, Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: any nigga that just got a new owner that hasn't had the team for less than a year. Yeah, nigga, I Jax: Especially if you're traveling and stuff. Greg: Yeah, like I'd be concerned and nervous, nigga, cause they not gonna go ban for ban with Balmer. They don't wanna be that nigga. Jax: And they can't. They can't. He's the richest owner in Greg: They can't, they could never it's ever no. Jax: he's the richest owner in sports, I think. The sports period? Or is it American sports? I don't know, but that nigga rich as hell. Cause he like own Microsoft or some shit. I don't know. But Greg: I don't know. He's rich though. Yeah, he might yeah, he might be the richest person to own a sports team. I think his brand I think Jerry Jones still has the the richest brand in sports. I Jax: Yeah. Greg: think that that article just came out like five days ago, but he's up he he's he's up there. He's he's a he's a single digit number when it comes to the top five the the top rankings and shit, so Jax: Yeah. Well since we talk about Greg: I feel like every t every time we end a a topic with Adam Silver, it's always ended in Adam Silver, get your shit together or get it together or do something. And it's just like, damn, like I am actually tired of saying that. I won. Jax: But it's like he he don't get his shit together, bro. David Stern would never. Dave Serwood also Palotori killed, but neither here nor there. And since we are speaking about owners, let's go ahead and get to the final thing, which is the Lakers and everything that's going on. So this all started August 17th. Now, this or maybe it started a little bit earlier because you know the Lakers or yeah, the Lakers got sold to Bob Iger and Josh Kushner. Greg: Josh Kushner. Jax: Yeah. So it started then, but then Sev the August seventeenth, Sam Z reported that the bus family has decided to sell its remaining seventeen point eight ownership stake in the Lakers to the new owners. The Bus Family Trust, composed of all the bus siblings, received majority votes to allow trustees to execute the sale. It required four of six votes. To enact the tag along revision of the sale and blah, blah, blah. So everybody and I remember we had talked about last episode in real life. And I was like, man, they're gonna try to hold Jeannie out because that's she's a woman and duh and also they hate her. So I was like, Yeah, they're gonna slime her out. And they did. But Jeannie dropped her version of Meet the or I guess Meet the Buses. Cause T came out and said No, you niggas cannot sell this team because she is still the controlling owner of that 17.8% of the Lakers. And Greg: Absolutely. Jax: because she is still the controlling owner, no vote or whatever can take that power away. Because she owns the major it's 17.8%, but she still owns that majority. So she has the final say. Greg: Absolutely. Yes. At least at least for five years. Jax: And yeah, this has now become a yeah, at least for five years. But yeah, now this has become a whole everything. And I I'm a little sick because have you ever watched that show Succession on HBO? I've never seen it, but people keep saying, like, my gosh, this is just like Succession. But the Lakers, and people have been making so many jokes about that, and I haven't got a single one of them. Because I never I ain't never seen niggas say the show is good. I ain't never seen it. So niggas be talking about it. I'm like, I get it. Greg: is it's a very good show. I'm not gonna lie. you gotta tap into that. I'm surprised you haven't tapped into that as much as you like. That's right up your alley, actually. I'm not gonna lie. That's like really up your alley. Jax: I was going to 'cause I thought that one girl was but I just never I just never pressed play 'cause I was I think I was watching it was some other shit I was watching. So I just never pressed play. Greg: You was probably watching that other one. I forgot the one. What's the one with the chip in their head? Jax: See, I don't know what that one is. Greg: it was on Apple I think it's like on Apple T V or some shit. Or yeah, I think he was watching Severance during that time when Secession was really popular. Jax: Severance? Guess what, that? yeah, no, Severance Severance is a special show. Greg: One of them one of them S shows, it was like the three S's. It was like Severance, Secession and Suits. Like I think all three of them hoes was like rocking at the same time. And niggas was like, we bad rotation, but you know. And then on top of that, it was in the fall. And if it was in the fall, you were watching Love Is Blind with me, so there's only so much you can watch, bro. Like Jax: When is I'll I'll figure out when the new season of Loves Black comes out later, but Greg: Next next month. Next next month. Next month. Jax: Perfect. Greg: That was the de that was the most devious perfect I hadn't heard you say in a long time. That nigga been feeding. That nigga been feeding for love of love. Jax: It's a great show. Where where are they gonna be at? Do you know? Greg: Boston. Jax: Well The World Cup changed my opinions on Boston. But we can talk about that later. Let's let's get let's continue to Greg: my god Jax: get to the Lakers. But like I don't even I mean, I don't even know what it what there is to say, to be honest with you, like this is clearly not gonna get resolved no time soon, at least well I say clearly, but you never know 'cause these niggas be doing whatever they want nowadays. But I don't think it's gonna get resolved no time soon. And you know what? Like, even though like Jeannie Buss, her tenure as being like the sole owner of the Lakers hasn't been all that good for real. Like, yes, they got a championship, but it's been and they got the championship and they got Luca and LeBron, but like they've still underachieved and been really like a dumpster franchise, just LeBron just dragging them along for real. So but like even despite all that, I'd rather her have some say in the Lakers than not. Because like I said, I do not trust, you know, the Bob Igers and Josh Kushners of the world. And like with Jeannie Bus, she at least I think she at least cares about the Lakers for real, for real. Like some of these other owners like Tom Dunning and them, they he don't care about the Trailblazers. He just wanted the team. But Jeannie Bus, I think she is like Granted, I know winning time, that TV show wasn't a 100% accurate representation of her in like the Bus family. It probably wasn't even like 85% accurate, but like I still feel like her love for the Lakers and the team was still like a a thing that she has. So that's why I want. I'd rather her have some some say in the Lakers at least. Greg: Yeah, it's very important that she had that that clause in her first contract of whenever they had the deal for the Lakers. That Jax: Yeah. Greg: she had to be that 17% like stakeholder for at least five years. That that was that was fucking pivotal. Cause they would hey, like you said, they was ready to boo her out. And I was like, man, look. Jax: They hate her, bro. Greg: I was like, man, look. I get they're trying to boot her. And I'm not saying that at some point she's gonna get that boot. Like it's gonna be inevitable. but she's not gonna go down with a fight, and if you hold her, I just feel like she will never be the only singular person to hold. Somebody will get hold with her if she has to go down with it. she take it, Jax: she's gonna take she's gonna take everybody down. All her siblings. Greg: yeah, she taking, yeah, she not going alone in this shit. So this the fact that they tried to like Get her up out of there and didn't, you know, neutralize the threat the first time, that's Jax: Yeah. Greg: not good. Especially when you're dealing with a white woman. That's just not good, bro. That's not good. That's all I got is that's all I can say about it. That's just not good. Jax: Yeah. Greg: That's just not a good thing. but I just it's actually kind of crazy how we were both right in that situation. cause They were gonna try to hoe her. I didn't know I didn't know they were gonna I didn't know they were gonna try to hold her that early. Like that was so quick. I was like, Whoa Jax: It and Loki as soon as we ended as soon as we ended the project, they were like, they're selling the leg, shit. Greg: shit. And then and then that nigga Genie said Do you think it's wise for you to keep talking? And it's just like, okay. Jax: Ha ha. Greg: Dear Iger. Like, all right, bitch, my bad. My fault. My fault. But Yeah, it's it's it sounds like we will be talking more about Lakers management than the Lakers season in general. I think that's where we're headed. And With the lack of melanin in that starting five, I'm actually here for it. I'm not Jax: Yeah. Greg: trying to see them Lakers like that. I'm not trying to see the Snowtime Lakers like this right now. Not right now. Crazy. Snowtime Lakers on Christmas Day? Yeah, give me Genie Bru give me Genie Buzz drama right now. That's okay. I'm fine. Jax: And you know, throughout all of this, Rob Plinka is still the GM of the Lakers. Throughout all of this. Throughout all of this Greg: Hey man, hey man, that Kobe connection is just different, bro. Jesus Christ, bro. Jax: Yeah, Sue. Greg: It's it's different. Changed that fucking nigga life. Jax: Shout out, shout out to him. Even he's terrible. He's not really good at his job, but he's survived this entire he survived so much, bro. Like Greg: They gift rapted that nigga Luca, bro. He didn't even do anything. Jax: They gave traffic him, LeBron he didn't do. I mean that one championship. But that's in this that that is good. You cannot take that away. That that championship was more LeBron Greg: He fell he fell in he fell in upwards. Jax: than Rob Palenka. It literally fell up. Greg: Literally fell upwards. That's wow. Crazy. Jax: and before we get to hot takes, one more thing that just happened. Literally, just now I got the notification. Four-time Pro Bowl running back, Nick Chubb, has retired. Greg: Wow. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I kinda saw it coming. That was such a horrific injury. Jax: It's just like it look Nick Chubb was a monster. It's just them injuries got him, bro. Greg: That that one what was that in was that in twenty twenty two? I forgot what year when he like when he completely obliterated his fucking knee, like his that major one. Jax: he didn't he do it twice? I know he did it once in the NFL or I know he did it once in college, but didn't he do it twice in the NFL? Greg: I know we had a major one in the NFL where it was like, like this is gruesome. I don't actually don't want to look at that shit type shit. Yeah, bro, Jax: Yeah, he's only thirty. Yeah, he's only thirty. Greg: they that shit really got him up out the paint. the latest the latest one was the one that kind of kind of fucked him up. 'Cause he was he was like a he was like a fifteen hundred yard receiver for real. Like he was Yeah. I'm not receiver, Russia. Jax: Russia. No, he Nick Chubb was one of the best running backs in the like dead ass one of the best running back. Like a top five running back in the NFL for about what five seasons for real. Greg: And and bro, and this is the reason why Nick Chubb is the reason why I'd never be feeling bad for the Browns. Baker Baker Mayfield and Nick Chubb were rookies together, bro. You drafted both of those niggas in the first round while still having Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. and and Jax: There's no reason they should have been as bad as they were. Greg: and Jarvis Landry. This is even before y'all went to go get Odell. Like, y'all be hat like and y'all y'all fuck that up. I'm not gonna lie, like, yeah, it it I'd be like, woe is me, poor Browns. They it's just never, it's always something. Well, sometimes y'all be shooting y'all shits in the foot, bro. Like that that was a good little roster that y'all had for like a good little stint. There was a good little window where y'all were decent. Jax: It has those there were pieces on that roster. When you have two, you had two bona f well Baker wasn't a bona fide star. But Baker was you had a serviceable quarterback, a star running back, and Nick Chubb, because Nick Chubb was a star. Odell, he didn't like Baker, so Odell was a star, but he didn't like Baker. But then on defense, you had two stars and Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. Like that team should have had way more success. Greg: You still had David and Joku. That's a service. That's a good quality tight end. Yeah. You Jax: Yeah, so I'm assembled a good Thailand like yeah. Greg: know what I mean? Like, come on. That defense was too good, and that was a competent offense. Man, fuck out of it. Fuck out of here. So I'm not to take it, no, not not to get it off of of Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb was was great. I wish him nothing but the best. Wasn't he with the Texas last? Jax: Yeah Greg: Did he like sign like a little deal? Like a little small deal. Yeah, 'cause niggas Jax: Yeah, he was with the Texans. Greg: he was with the Texans mainly because they didn't know what the fuck was going on with Joe Mixon. They was like just trying to get bodies for real. And now we know. allegedly. Jax: What what is where is Joe Mixon? What is he doing? Actually. Greg: He need to he need to go ahead and retire too. I think he could. Jax: Yeah, he's a free agent right now. He's thirty as well. Greg: Yeah, go ahead. And that's it's totally fine. We don't have to force it. Get Jax: Yeah. Greg: about it there. I don't even know who is who is the running back there? Jax: For who? Sexons? Greg: Yeah, who is the running back? Jax: they David Montgomery they traded for him. Greg: yeah, that's right. That's right. 'Cause I forgot, yeah, they had they had a Jax: My people. Greg: Yeah, damn. Jameer Gibbs finna be eating this year. Wow. He ain't got the split carries no more. I might have give him all that might be R B one for me. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Jesus Christ. All right. I do think it is about that time though. Jax, what is your hot take for Jax: Alright. This will sound like hate, but I promise you it is not hate. But Matthew Greg: I forgot. Jax: Stafford, like, I'm a Matthew Stafford fan. I ain't got no problem with Matthew Stafford. Now, Matthew Stafford, he currently is still a very good quarterback. Matthew Stafford is a good quarterback. And he He has or he had at least all the talent in the world, because you know he was the first quarter one of the first quarterbacks doing like the no-look passes, crazy arm strength, all that. Really good, very talented, etc. With that being said, he's not an all-time great. Like we have to be so for real. Like, yes, the back end of his career, he had like the Super Bowl win. he just won the MVP. So he is a like I said, a very good, very talented quarterback. But all the time, I've seen people talk about him saying that he was a the best n the best player to wear nine in the NFL. Like, no, Drew Brees is still there. Like, what are we Greg: Mm. Jax: talking about? And like Matthew Stafford, like I said, he has all the talent in the world, but he's not even because he's about, I think he's 38 now. He's damn near 40. The current Matthew Stafford is not the most talented version of Matthew Stafford. And even the most talented version of Matthew Stafford, we saw him play. He was not even one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Like he was a would I have say he was better than Philip Rivers. Like Philip Rivers had a better like Matthew Stafford's career got good once he got to the Rams. Like he had a coup he had, I think maybe two-ish seasons of like Success with Detroit where they like made the playoffs and made like a little bit of noise, but he really got good when he got to the Rams. Because that's when you link with Sean McVay and Sean McVeigh's evil genius and all these other things that you know went to Super Bowl, won, etc. But it's just like we saw Matthew Stafford when he was playing in the same time at the same time as people like Drew Bre or yeah, people like Drew Brees, people like Philip Rivers, people like, you know, Matt Ryan, people like hell, even Tony Romo. Like he Matthew Stafford was cool. He was really good. Or not, I mean he was really talented, but like all-time no. And we saw him when he was playing at his best with all-time quarterbacks, and he was nowhere in their class. Like, I think we just gotta. There's a lot of revisionist history on Matthew Stafford. Like, he's great in everything, but like, let's chill, bro. Like, please. Let's chill. Greg: So he to call him Elite? Jax: Like now he's elite, yes. yeah, no, I'm not even gonna cap like now he's for sure elite. He won an VP. For sure he's elite. But all time great, no. He's not like people are acting like he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, like with a bullet in it, like just straight lock. Like, if he is, I feel like that's a mistake. Like, will he get to the Hall of Fame? Yeah, he's going to end up 'cause he won the Super Bowl, won the VP, he's going to get in the Hall of Fame, but I don't think he's really even had a Hall of Fame career before that. Like he just put up, you know, 5,000 yards passing and that's it. Like he wasn't even, he didn't even get to like Pro Bowls for real. And everybody gets to fucking Pro Bowls. Like, I think Mitch Trubisky got to a fucking Pro Bowl, bro. Like he's been to Pro Bowl maybe like four times. And a lot of them just came recently. So what are we? Greg: Shut out, shut out Shut out Shador. Jax: Like Shadow got to the Pro Bowl. Like, what are we talking about? Like. That's why like Matthew Stafford is a I'm not trying to hate on him, but all time great we ha we have got to be so serious. We have got to chill out for a little bit. Like I was the I was watching when Matthew Stafford was in his younger days with Detroit. They weren't that good. He was talented, but like, Not no all time great. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Greg: So what era or what year would you consider like his like prime or like his like okay, at his peak? Or do you feel like he's one of these Jax: Right, that's right. Greg: niggas that has like this late peak where like he peaked in like his late thirties? Like a Tom Brady? Jax: Like from his career standpoint, I feel like he pe his career for sure peaked in his thirties, 'cause that's when he got to the Rams and everything. But like as far as like physical talent and stuff like that, that was probably when he was like that probably like from twenty fourteen to Maybe like what 2020, because that was about six season or yeah, sixth season. So that was when he was twenty-six to thirty-two. Like those are prime years. And those are all with Detroit. And then he got well, I can I can include 2021, because that was his first year with the Rams. But like, yeah. That's that was his peak. And he wasn't even code for it like that. Like he he just he was a stat man, stat accumulator, bro, stat merchant. And Greg: It was Jax: like he is like he's a good quarterback, but we have got to chill. We have really got to chill out with that shit, bro. Greg: So in his in in his peak era, you do you feel like he was top ten era? Jax: In his peak, do I feel like he was top ten? Maybe, but just because I he maybe, but he'd be on like the lower end of that spectrum, maybe like a round out. Greg: Or or like let me let me let me let me cut to the j top five. Was he top five was he top Jax: Top five, no. No. Greg: five Q B in his era? Who who who were the five that you were taking over him in his era? Jax: From what from like the twenty fourteen to what what's twenty twenty one? Greg: From from that twenty fourteen to twenty twenty era. Anytime before the Rams, I'm basically saying. Jax: I mean there was what Tom Brady was still Tom Brady. Drew Brees was still Drew Brees. Aaron Rodgers was still Aaron Rodgers. Big Ben was still Big Ben. Like, you know, it was like Greg: Tom Brady, Ruby, Aaron Rogers, Big Ben. Jax: shit like that. I'm trying to think of somebody else from that. who I think somebody else from that. Was another quarterback that was better than him in that area. I'm trying to think. Greg: Teens Jax: Yeah, like I mean it was still Philip Rivers was still Philip River Inc., although that was sort of around like the Greg: Or like or Matt or or like I mean what? You how do you feel about him and Matt Ryan? How do you feel about Matt Ryan and that? Jax: But I'd say Matt Ryan was better than him until 'cause Matt Ryan did have more success than him until Greg: Okay. Huh? Jax: like the or not the drug, but until the Rams days for real. Like I just he was not like that Greg: putting where you put in you putting Jax: for real. Payne, Payne was pay yeah, Payne was still in that era for a couple of years. Like it Greg: Peyton was still there. Was Carson Palmer still hooping? Jax: I wouldn't say Cars like Pa Carson Palmer was still there, but I wouldn't have said he was like crazy hooping. Greg: You wouldn't put there. Okay. Eli? Jax: Eli was winning, but like no, I wouldn't I wouldn't say Eli. Eli was winning though. Greg: Okay. Okay. I'm just I'll just wanna I just wanna see where you was where you was at with it. A young Teddy B I Jax: Well yeah, like Matthew Stafford, like like like I said, the Pro Bowl doesn't really mean anything, but he's only been to the Pro Bowl three times. And like, nigga, every like Shador went to the Pro Bowl. Shador's nowhere near as good as Matthew Stafford. And he still ended up in the Pro Greg: A P Jax: Bowl. So like you can as good as people will say you were, you can even make the Pro Bowl, bro. In your prime. What are we talking? That's why I'm just like, we have we've got a chill. Like he's a good quarterback, but let's please let's chill, bro. Please. Greg: Was he better than an Eagles Michael Vick? Jax: I don't I don't know if I can answer that properly because my bias will always take Michael Vick over damn near anybody. But like I wanna say yeah, but like I don't I don't have the numbers, I'll be honest. But I would have taken Michael Vick over him, but I would have taken Michael Vick over pretty much it's fucking Michael Vick, bro. I take Michael Vick over anybody. Well, Greg: Can. Jax: not anybody, not anybody, but I'm a Michael Vick fan, so I'm gonna take Michael Vick over a lot of quarterbacks. Fucking Michael Vick. What are you talking Greg: So you feel like he was like in a ca he's like in a Cam Newton category where it's like right up there Jax: Cam was better than him, bro. Cam was better than him. Cam was much better than him, and that's not even an insult. Like this just it was Cam fucking Newton, bro. Greg: It's not gonna like that one. I already know. I Jax: I don't care. Greg: know you don't. I know. It was it was a blanket statement. I just didn't know we were going there. You know, Jameis Wilson was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. Okay, I just wanted to see how far we was going. My bad. I just wanted I just wanted to know. Brissett was was was prime in in the Patriots. I just wanna I just wanna I just wanna know how far the biases Jax: Shut up, bro. Greg: was going, bro. I just wanted to p I just mean. Alright, now's my turn. My hot take, please, for the love of God, stop treating fantasy football as your fucking lottery ticket to pay some bills. This shit should not be that goddamn high to join some of y'all little fantasy football leagues, nigga. Yeah, I Jax: Yeah. Greg: said little. All right. I should be able to join a couple fantasy football leagues. And not feel like I'm damn near taking out a loan. All right, twenty dollars here, thirty dollars here, shit, fifty dollars, that's fine. But as soon as we start getting into the hundreds of dollars, Why? Especially when we're like These is the boy, these the guys, these the fellas. It's not like, it's not like I'm signing up on ProFootball Focus.com. Like, it's not like I'm I'm competing. I'm trying to hang out with the guys, connect. Why am I paying a three-figure digit to join a league with my niggas? Niggas I done seen like we grew up. Some of y'all we grew up together with some of these niggas. What? And I hate to take it there, but like sometimes it just feels like I'm being Matt Miller, the same the way some of y'all niggas is moving with this goddamn money. Why are we paying so much to join a football league? I be having fun. But y'all treating this shit like. Jax: Yeah, why why why did it take so much to get the money that we're owed? Greg: That's what I'm saying. Why did we get here? And I'm not trying to hear y'all Jax: Just just ask me just asking questions. Just ask a question. Greg: Just asking questions and don't and don't get defensive on some if you broke, just say that. I'm not here to say none of that. You know what I mean? Y'all niggas is from Houston. That's a scamming ass city. You don't get to tell me I'm broke. I'm just asking a question because I remember what some of y'all I remember what it was. I remember what some of y'all was like in college. Come on now. Like this was, we was all struggling in college. Like, let's not let's not go there. I'm just want to ask a question. Why? You know what I mean? I d Jax, I didn't even know they had They had a whatcha call it. You know, we have another league, right? There's like a two-tier league that we're in. Jax: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Greg: I joined that second-tier league like last year. Because I'm like, okay, like I'm just bullshit. And that nigga came in. He was like, yeah, we drafting. Yeah, the deposit, the deposit, you know, we sent a deposit here. What you mean? Wait, we pay for this one too? Yeah, $20 $20? And the twenty's not a problem. But damn, this was the casual league. What? We buy y'all niggas worse than 2K. Hey, some of y'all niggas is worse than some of these corporations. What are we doing? We ain't nothing free no more. Jax: That's very funny. But nothing is unfortunately nothing is free anymore, which is terrible. Greg: This is my God. Yeah. And it's just like, man, nah, man. This i it it it just gets to a point 'cause what we what we doing with this money? What we doing with this money, y'all? I'm I'm not I'm not a fan. I don't think it takes especially if you're with your homies, your homeboys, your day one niggas, I do not think it should take a hundred dollars to get a group of niggas together to draft. Just to say and you gotta pick a struggle. I can't pay $100 and fear for a punishment. We gotta pick one or the other. Jax: Ha ha Greg: All right, nigga. Either make me pay $25, and I pray I don't get that punishment. Because I feel like the $100 that I donate every year. Look at my fucking thing. The $100 that I pay every year is a punishment alone. I feel like I do a fantasy football punishment every time. That shit gets deducted out of my that's a yearly subscription. NBA league pass don't even cost that much. Let's get it together, fellas. that's my rant. no, I'm not broke. I just am a conscious spender. And I think it is starting to get a little ridiculous. that's my odd take and I stand by it. Jax: I you know what? I like that hot. Fuck it. I like that hotel. Greg: And if you got a problem with me, that's not the word one, my bad. And if you got a problem with what I said Do you think it's wise for you to keep talking? You getting tricked right now, man. Like, come on, bro. They come on, man. But Jax, any last words? Jax: shoot. Go outside, go touch some grass. More importantly, go lock in because football season is finna start in what like two weeks, possibly, I think. Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: Two weeks. Yeah, so get your mind right for that. It's football season. Lock in. But yeah, that's all I gotta say. Greg: and as far as for me, there's a there's a quotable that Jax did on one of our podcasts, I think two two weeks ago. He was talking about Sophie Cunningham. And he said the quote, You are the main thing that is keeping the main thing from being the main thing. That is a bar that nobody really peeped, but I peeped it. And I was like, Jax, that's probably one of the greatest bars you've said in a minute. And I want people in our audience to resonate with that, man. When we say keep the main thing, yo, do not be the main thing that's keeping your main thing from not being the main thing. All right. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: And V's, if you listen to this, please don't steal it. Let us have something. Let us have something. Rylo, Jax: I feel like there's like no Greg: all the mother niggas, let us have something. Please do not steal our bar. Jax: I feel like how Wayne felt when people people say it's bars. So we'd be who said that? And they're like, you and like, I said Greg: Okay. Jax: that for real. Greg: I saw yourself that while I was working out. I was like, damn, just the case. Okay, Jax, what the fuck? Why did I not peep that in real time? That was that was. Jax: even remember his name, it's like me, I guess. Fuck it. Greg: Shout out to fuck, shout out to you. Yeah, man. Keep the main thing the main thing. All right. Change will come. Consistency will prevail. With that being said, make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe. More content is coming on the way. Be patient with us. Thank you for being loyal subscribers. We'll catch y'all niggas next week.