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Ep. 59 - When Siblings Play Collegiate Soccer · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Paw.
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  Speaker 1: Today we have Matthias and Taylor live on the show.
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  Speaker 1: They are siblings. We talked a lot about that sibling
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  Speaker 1: dynamic and how amazing it can be to have your
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  Speaker 1: sibling who also plays a sport at the same college
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  Speaker 1: that you go to. They also talked about their faith
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  Speaker 1: and their family and how much that means to them
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of leadership nuggets in there too. So
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  Speaker 1: super exciting episode. Let's go Beyond the Paw. So, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: how was your weekend? It's Tuesday. It is Tuesday. Tuesdays
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  Speaker 1: are tough days. Tuesdays are like sophomore year.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I do not know if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: It totally makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: You've done Monday. You've done your freshman year.
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  Speaker 1: You've done.
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  Speaker 3: You're in the second one, though, and it's like there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot in front of me. I'm in the thick
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  Speaker 3: of this.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how I feel.
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  Speaker 3: My weekend was really good. I went to an Olivia
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  Speaker 3: Dean conference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She is on my bucket list.
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  Speaker 3: It was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It was so good.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone was just good vibes. Everyone's so happy to be there.
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  Speaker 3: Girlhood to the max. Her voice is angelic. So I
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  Speaker 3: had a really good weekend. It was super fun. Core memory,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, with some of my friends.
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  Speaker 1: Where was the concert?
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: So it was Sweet Farm.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a fun little girls' night.
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  Speaker 1: Go out to the city outside of Tigertown. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: What about you? What did you do? I had a
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  Speaker 1: pretty chill weekend. But Saturday, I went to Greenville. Got
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  Speaker 1: some sourdough. Love. Went to Whole Foods. Do you ever
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  Speaker 1: bake sourdough? I have not. And I've wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: into it. But it's such a hard process.
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  Speaker 3: It's a commitment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we'll see if that's ever an endeavor I
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  Speaker 1: want to embark on. But currently, no. I went to,
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  Speaker 1: it's called Rise Bakery. Okay. Super good sourdough. And I
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  Speaker 1: went to Whole Foods because that's literally my favorite activity ever.
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  Speaker 3: And it is an activity.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: In itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. 100 percent. So me and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: my friends drove down there and did that. And then
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night we baked cookies.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And these are my famous chocolate chip cookies.
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  Speaker 3: You have famous chocolate chip cookies and I haven't eaten them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: OK. Next time. It's OK.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're busy.
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  Speaker 1: School just started.
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  Speaker 3: You had a birthday.
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  Speaker 1: We're practicing again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on. But no, it was it
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  Speaker 1: was good. These chocolate chip cookies are super special because
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  Speaker 1: I put flaky sea salt on the top. And that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you got to do that sweet and salty.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it turned out good. And we did like ice
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  Speaker 1: cream sundaes with them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what a night.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: What a time.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. So fun.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You also just had a very special birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I did. What?
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  Speaker 3: Tell me about it.
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  Speaker 1: 21st birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome. An adult.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's 18, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a second layer. I was saying to
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  Speaker 1: one of my friends, I was like, once you turn 21,
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  Speaker 1: 20 still feels young. When you say 20, you're like, oh, 20.
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  Speaker 1: It's still kind of a teenager. But when I was
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  Speaker 1: saying 21... I don't know if it's just the fact
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  Speaker 1: that my ID is flipped to being horizontal or what
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  Speaker 1: it is, but I just feel old now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, your next threshold will be renting a car. Twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty five. Without those fees. That's my next milestone.
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  Speaker 3: You got time.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was super fun. I went home, got
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  Speaker 1: to do stuff with my family and my boyfriend came
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  Speaker 1: with me. He had not been to Chicago ever before.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, June.
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  Speaker 1: OK. And then now it's been his second time coming
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  Speaker 1: to Chicago. Like, just killing it in three months. You know,
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  Speaker 1: span of three months, twice. So, yeah, we went to dinner,
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite restaurants. Did just a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: random stuff. Went to a farmer's market. Watched the Spider-Man movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was really good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love Tom Holland and Zendaya.
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  Speaker 3: I just sometimes... Right.
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  Speaker 1: Going to a movie theater. So fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's so fun.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: You get your little snacks.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a lost art. One thousand percent.
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  Speaker 3: Because you can stream anything.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Which is good.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. But there's something about getting the snacks you want,
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  Speaker 3: going to a movie theater, having a whole event, especially
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  Speaker 3: if you're in one of the ones with the seats.
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  Speaker 1: Reclining seats. And now they have seat heaters, too.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. I need to lock in.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Go to a movie.
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  Speaker 1: We just saw. What did we just see? One Night Only.
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  Speaker 3: Someone just said that the other day. Yeah. It was cute.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: It was fun.
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  Speaker 1: Fun for a girl's night. Lighthearted.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But you took your boyfriend?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: This one was with my friend.
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  Speaker 3: This was different.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This one was with the boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This one, not with the boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So you were home?
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  Speaker 1: I was home.
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  Speaker 3: You're back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You're back in it.
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  Speaker 1: I am back in it. How's that? We just started our, like,
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  Speaker 1: mandatory practices last week.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Last week was a lot of meetings, team meetings, going over,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of freshmen on this team.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so telling them basically, this is how we do it. Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: And it's always hard to, cause I remember being a
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  Speaker 1: freshman and going over all the rules and stuff and
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  Speaker 1: you feel like, Ooh, it's scary, but really it's not scary.
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  Speaker 1: So with these freshmen, we didn't, we never really had
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  Speaker 1: people to tell us. You know, it sounds scary, but
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  Speaker 1: it's really not that serious. If you just go about
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  Speaker 1: your day how you normally would, you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So with these ones, they're so sweet and so precious.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I was like, I don't remember ever
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  Speaker 1: being that cute. Like they're all just little munchkins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to tell them, like, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Really not that scary.
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  Speaker 3: It's OK. It's going to be OK.
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  Speaker 1: And if you need anything, come to us. We're here
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  Speaker 1: for you. Have any questions. If you have any concerns,
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  Speaker 1: we are here for you. So, yeah. And then starting practice.
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  Speaker 1: We've started lifting. We started doing all of it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to get back into my routine, which I love.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, do you, is that good
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we do need routine.
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  Speaker 1: It is helpful. It definitely is. I'm, I'm a huge
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  Speaker 1: routine person. So it definitely though, getting used to sitting
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  Speaker 1: and thinking in a classroom again, that's like a whole
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  Speaker 1: different muscle in your brain that you have to turn
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  Speaker 1: back on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you're doing an internship.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You're a working woman.
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  Speaker 1: I am a working woman.
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  Speaker 3: You are doing a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm working at the ARC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you are.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, they're getting people, doing the cryo machine, doing
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  Speaker 1: some other stuff, but definitely got a lot going on. Practice, school, work, podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Look at you.
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  Speaker 3: All of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's so fun, though.
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  Speaker 2: Baking cookies.
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  Speaker 1: Baking cookies, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun, though. I feel like you and I have
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  Speaker 3: talked about this, too, but I feel like when you're
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  Speaker 3: in that time, I think it was my junior year
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  Speaker 3: of college. I think I was like 19 credits in internship,
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  Speaker 3: all these things. And you really have to schedule almost
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  Speaker 3: every single minute. But that's like the highest GPA I
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  Speaker 3: got in college, I think, because I didn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 3: So similarly, I'm sure you just have to be locked in.
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  Speaker 3: You have all these places. I have to be here
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  Speaker 3: at this time. You just do it because you don't
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  Speaker 3: really have an option to not.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Or to not do well. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of funny that you bring up the scheduling
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  Speaker 1: every minute because I'm such a backwards math person. In
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  Speaker 1: my brain, I'm like, okay, I have to be there
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  Speaker 1: at 12, which means I have to leave at 11.45,
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  Speaker 1: which means that if I want to curl my hair,
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  Speaker 1: I've got to.
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  Speaker 3: Be— Take this many minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Take this many minutes, and you're going backwards. You're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that means I have to wake up at 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: So now I set my alarm for this time.
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  Speaker 1: So I set my alarm for this time, which means
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  Speaker 1: the night before I have to go to bed. It's
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  Speaker 1: constantly going. It's definitely tough, but I feel like a
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  Speaker 1: good skill in life to have.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 1,000%.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you'll need it.
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  Speaker 1: I personally enjoy it. So type A. Very much so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also like I was just getting made fun of
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  Speaker 1: the other day because I have a little organizer under
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  Speaker 1: my kitchen or not my kitchen sink, my bathroom sink.
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  Speaker 1: And I needed all of the labels to be front facing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like it just looks so much better.
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  Speaker 1: Looks better. I feel better.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's not, I'm like like Jacob the other
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  Speaker 1: day is like, can I borrow, you know, your I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what your aqua for. And he puts it back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not worthless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure it's turned around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, OK, you're the police. I hear you.
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  Speaker 3: Have you been to the container store before?
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  Speaker 1: It is probably one of my favorite stores of all time.
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  Speaker 3: It can almost be you go in there for the
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  Speaker 3: intention of I'm trying to get organized. It can also
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  Speaker 3: become overwhelming because now I want and need everything. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about every single spot in my house that
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  Speaker 3: I need to give a container to.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And it starts to get the gears turning of like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about how I could organize that.
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  Speaker 3: This didn't need a home before. It does now.
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  Speaker 1: And now it does. And I love the videos on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram too that are people organizing something.
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  Speaker 3: And you hear the clicking. I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: The refills where they're pouring the M & Ms and
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  Speaker 1: stuff and they're like, you just hear it all.
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  Speaker 3: The sound.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Watching those types of videos are fun. Just the sound
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  Speaker 3: even of the clicking. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's relaxing. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you should get into that. I might.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you could have when you organized
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  Speaker 3: underneath your sink the other day.
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  Speaker 1: I probably should have filmed it.
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  Speaker 3: With a label maker.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Very serious. I had a cricket. My cricket is back home.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know about the cricket?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I do.
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  Speaker 1: You need to bring the cricket back. I need to
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  Speaker 1: bring the cricket back because it's fun, too, for like
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  Speaker 1: I was making T-shirts and stuff because you can do
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  Speaker 1: iron on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Things and design it. So like. Have a little fun
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  Speaker 1: girls night. Have stickers. Make a sticker.
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  Speaker 3: Game day something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, game day something. Like put it on a purse, Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: You're really, this is an opportunity for you.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I've already had a lot of requests to
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  Speaker 1: create an Etsy shop because I do handmade cards.
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  Speaker 3: You've mentioned this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Wait, talk me through that. So do you draw them?
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  Speaker 3: Do you design them online?
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  Speaker 1: What is that process? Yeah, it's all hand-drawn. So I
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  Speaker 1: get just like from paper sources, the store I like
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  Speaker 1: to get them from because they have really good quality
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  Speaker 1: just white blank cards. And then I basically, whoever I'm
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  Speaker 1: making the card for, okay, Ooh, they like golf or
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  Speaker 1: they like ice cream or they like this. And then
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  Speaker 1: I scroll through Pinterest, my favorite place to be and
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  Speaker 1: find a card inspo. And then I just recreated, I
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  Speaker 1: have all my different stationary things and pens all organized.
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  Speaker 1: Like I have markers, different sized pens, different tips, different Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I took 10 minutes bringing Jacob through it.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob's my boyfriend, by the way. Bringing him through all
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  Speaker 1: my stuff, just showing it off. And he was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is she doing right now? But I found so
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  Speaker 1: much joy in just showing him my coloring stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Really all that matters, actually.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I make cards and I have pretty good handwriting.
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  Speaker 1: So they usually turn out pretty good. You've talked about your.
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  Speaker 3: handwriting in power. That was your PowerPoint.
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  Speaker 1: It was my PowerPoint.
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  Speaker 3: You talked about the perfection and how, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I did. I connected my handwriting to the idea
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  Speaker 1: of perfectionism and how I've gone so much of my
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  Speaker 1: life trying to be perfect, like my handwriting, and learning
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  Speaker 1: that it's okay to make mistakes. And oftentimes those mistakes
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  Speaker 1: become the greatest things in our life because they either
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  Speaker 1: taught us something or they were a funny moment and
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  Speaker 1: you can look back on it and laugh or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they show us that we're, we're people, we are humans,
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  Speaker 1: we are here.
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  Speaker 3: It's inevitable. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's the authentic, real versions of ourselves that
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  Speaker 1: are the most beautiful. Um, and so, yeah, I connected
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  Speaker 1: that all back to my handwriting, but that's awesome. I
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  Speaker 1: remember that was really good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, yeah, I, I, um, it's also interesting that you
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  Speaker 3: compete in a sport that, Essentially rates you on perfection
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  Speaker 3: or your ability to perfectly curate something so specific and
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  Speaker 3: really how can we.
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  Speaker 1: Ever fully do that.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Is so interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because the thing about gymnastics too, it's such a
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  Speaker 1: subjective sport. You have people who are judging you, but
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, you're seeking perfection. And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: that's almost.
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  Speaker 1: How do you... What is the measure of perfection? What
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  Speaker 1: is the measure of perfection? And to somebody, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sitting here, it might be one thing, and over here,
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  Speaker 1: it's the other thing. That's what's hard, too, is you
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  Speaker 1: go to a meet and you get scored a 9.9.
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  Speaker 1: You go to another meet, maybe have a worse routine,
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  Speaker 1: but get scored a 9.95. Like, where.
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  Speaker 3: The consistency, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The consistency's off, but it's also... The same thing, too. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you think about it in life.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Like, my perfect is not your perfect.
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  Speaker 3: And what is.
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  Speaker 1: What is perfect? What is perfect? It's really just a word. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so you can make it whatever you want to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's the cool thing. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the one thing like gymnastics has certainly taught me.
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  Speaker 1: I think growing up, it was a hurdle, but now
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  Speaker 1: that I'm over the hurdle, I can look back on
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  Speaker 1: it and just kind of be like, Oh wait, that
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: was a great lesson. And also kind of cool in
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: finding myself the same time.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Um, And so definitely a perspective shift. So the one
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: thing Liz said the other day, in the sport of gymnastics,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: you start from a 10 and you can only go
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: down from there. Right. And so it's just the idea
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: of like you constantly need something filling your cup, because
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: if you're doing a sport or you're basing a lot
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: of yourself off of this idea of like subtracting, Where
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: are you going? You're only going down. And so finding
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: people around you, like writing down your little wins for
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: the day, even if it's just, hey, I pointed my
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: toe or outside gymnastics. Like, hey, I made one extra
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: person smile today.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: And I think you make a lot of people smile
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: every day.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Ashley.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: You do too.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Your smile brings a lot of joy to my life.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Well, we were talking a lot about joy and just
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: things that fill our cup, a busy new time of year.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: You're talking about all the things that you're doing and
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: have started.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: As the year has began.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: And I think when we think about filling our cup too,
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: it's the people that fill our cup, that we're so
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: lucky to be around every day. Students in my office
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: every day, getting to work with different people that I
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: love spending time with. And I think people are such
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: a big part of that. Is there anyone in your
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: life that does that for you?
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say my brother is definitely somebody who
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: has always done that for me. You know, growing up,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: he's older than me. And we used to have a
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: different sort of relationship than I feel like most older brother,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: younger sisters have, right? You traditionally think he's going to
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: be the one picking on you, rage baiting you, doing whatever.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: But he used to chase me around the house trying
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: to give me a hug. And in return, I would
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: kick him in the shin. Or I would push him
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: into a tree.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Both have happened. My mom is probably listening to this
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: right now laughing. She's like, I remember that. And I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: had to write him a sorry note.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: That's good parenting.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: That is good parenting. Yes. But definitely now that we've
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: built a better relationship and I've stopped giving him such
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: a hard time. I still do. But yeah, he's become
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: somebody who supports me a lot and he brings me
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of joy. And I hope I do the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: same for him, too. I'm sure you do.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's why I'm really excited about this episode.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: That we have in store today. Mm-hmm. Because, I mean,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I know how special my brother is to me. Mm-hmm.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: And we've got a brother and sister duo on the show.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: So, yeah. Matthias and Taylor on the men's and women's
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: soccer team.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of fun to talk
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to them.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited. So, if you are ready, let's get
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: to it and let's bring them on.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Mathias is a senior defender on the
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Clemson men's soccer team and was a freshman in 2023
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: when they won an ACC championship and the national championship.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Taylor is a sophomore forward on the women's soccer team,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: appearing in 16 matches her freshman year and scoring a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: total of three goals that season. There is plenty of
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: soccer left to be played this year because they're in
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: season right now. And so thank you both for joining
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: me today. Super excited.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having us.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having us.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Of course. All right. So it's kind of fun. We've
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: got both of you on here. I'm going to start
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: with some rapid-fire questions for both of you. This is
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: kind of going to be our little warm-up for the day.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: We love warm-ups in athletics. Very important.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Try to just go as quick as you can. One
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: word to describe yourself. Joyful.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I wasn't going to say that for me.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: You can take it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: No, it's okay.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: It can be the same.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. Joyful. Love that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Three words to describe your sibling.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: He's super, like, thoughtful. He's competitive and caring.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: She's shorter.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Younger. Oh, I try to be nice.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Very different approach.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: She's intentional, though.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was a good one. Who is the most competitive?
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah in like I'm like.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Total me but like in like he gets in that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: mode but like.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: He can't switch it off I feel like I can
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: switch it off a little better.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah his balance is probably better than mine okay who
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: would win on a in a one-on-one competition in soccer
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: in soccer yeah he would.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: He's giving up you can save me if you want.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Who has the better music taste.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: That is not a question.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: And it's not because mine's good.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Mine's just terrible. Mine's just bad.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, what's your favorite artist, favorite type of music?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Noah Khan, recently.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Love.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: We're both liking him right now, I'd say. I like
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Kings of Leon.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good shout.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I'm really into them right now, yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Who is the better cook?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Me. Yeah, yeah. It's not fair either because my cooking
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: is non-existent.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mine's not great either. But I'm better.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: She's better.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Favorite food?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Like type of food or like a specific food?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Whatever you want.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Chocolate milk.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Ooh. Like gallons a week. Really? Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Like two at least growing up. Wow. Um... Maybe like
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: ice cream.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Great answer.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That is a great answer. Favorite road trip snack. Like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: let's say your team is traveling.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Snack you're bringing along.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Recently we've had the made good like oat balls. You
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? Those are really good.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I'm a goldfish guy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Goldfish like before game but also like travel. It's my go-to.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Keep it simple.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Best vacation you guys have ever been on.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Our family trips are just so fun. No matter where
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it is, we just have an awesome time together. We
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: kind of just do the same trips over and over again.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Is there a place that you always go back to?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Gulf Shores. Okay.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Just a beach. Memorial Day weekend. It used to be
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Labor Day, but now we can't make it, you know?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: So now it's Memorial Day. That's a good time. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I'd agree. We're just, like, whatever we're doing is so
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: much fun together, you know? That's good.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: But, yeah. I would say that. Agreed.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And then biggest pet peeve that your sibling does?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: His is chewing.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, smacking.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I know that. I wouldn't say I do that. You're
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: very quick with that one. I just know that. I
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say I'm, like, do that necessarily but he just.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: That really irks him yeah I would say hers is
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: like like you not caring you know like she's very
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: like let's do this this this like I'm not that
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: makes her so mad it's.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: The same way with my brother and me like it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: funny because he is the complete opposite person of me
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: specifically in that way where it's like I'm so type
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: A want the plan done now and he literally will
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: just like Hum-da-dum-da-dum. He walks into the kitchen. He opens
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the pantry. He looks in there for 30 seconds. Leaves,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sits down in the kitchen. I'm like, what are you doing? Like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: do you not have, like, any pep in your step whatsoever, ever?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: If he listens to this episode, he's going to throw
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you one of the most, I love you. Don't worry.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: That's the same thing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: It's so funny how you can grow up in the
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: same house the same way and you end up so differently.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, I know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It's cool, though.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: And, like, her getting mad makes me, like, do it more.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep doing this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't like it?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Perfect.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Exactly, yeah.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, so, like, I want to do a few questions
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: about just your sibling dynamic because I think this is fun.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: We have both of you on the show. Might as well.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So let's start. So was going to Clemson together something
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that you always envisioned or did it kind of just happen?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It was kind of always there. I wouldn't say... we
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: necessarily like thought it was going to happen until later,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but like the, that dream was probably always there.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I'd say like, it was like the collective goal, you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: both of us, like that was where we wanted to be,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: but it was, you know, and it was different ways
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: we each got there, but it was, it was like,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: that would be really cool. And, uh, what we said.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So you said there was, it was kind of different
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: ways that you guys both got here. Can you kind
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: of dive deeper into that, both of you?
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go. Like, I just think for everyone,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: not just us as siblings, but, like, the recruiting process
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: is just so different for so many people, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: especially now with how diverse the teams are, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: which is a really cool thing about athletics. But, like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I'd say for us, like, we both, like, played at
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the same, like, level soccer, you know, and caliber soccer.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: And so we're at similar events. Um, but I think, uh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: what's cool is like the connection we have to Clemson.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: So our, our dad played at university, New Hampshire in
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the nineties and his coach is the men's coach here.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Um, so that's, you know, that's a really cool connection.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: And part of why we wanted to come here, um,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: was just like that's who we grew up watching. And
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: that was like college soccer to our eyes, you know? And, um,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: and so that was like the standard, but going through
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: why I say that is like, you know, um, it
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: was more like directed my way. It was like, how
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: am I going to get to Clemson? What are they
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: looking for? And how can I implement that? Um, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I think you'd say the same for Taylor, but I
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: also think like, um, they also saw that in her
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: through what she did, you know? Um, And it was
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: more like, oh, we know her. We'd like that, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: rather than like, I think it was almost like a
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: flipped almost where it was like, I know what they want.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Or I have an idea and it's like, I'm going
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to do my best to do that, which same for her.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But it was like a different timeline because it was
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: like before and then after them knowing the.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Name, you know?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you agree.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: No, I would agree.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'd say that. Like we, I came to camps here,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: kind of made a relationship with the coaches and stuff.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: But.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I would say everything he said was super accurate. Yeah.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's cool. And talking about like your dad knowing the coach, um,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: or being coached by, I'm sure that, that kind of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: immediately put Clemson on the map for you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: And just like, those are like some of our memories
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of soccer was like when we found that out and
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: then like going to a college soccer game, it was like, Oh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: this is really cool. And so same with her. It
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: was like, so now like the camps I would come
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to as a kid and then, came to a few
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: older and it was like it was like a deeper
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: meaning almost because it was like oh there's a connection
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: here you know yeah so.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: You go ahead for your dad i wonder that's got
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to be crazy to just see i mean so full circle.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah totally i think he's more happy.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Than us just that they have the same coaches that's
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like something super rare and like super cool i think
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: it like like my dad totally understands how he's being coached.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And I think he, he likes that, like to know
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: that he just, it just, yeah, it just adds a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: little bit more. Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: And to add to that also, like now being in
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: this program for multiple years and learning just the coaching philosophy,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: but also like the like mentorship of like, he's teach
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: us more than just soccer. I, I now like reflecting
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: on what like our dad taught us and our mom, like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I see those same values, you know, now it's cool
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: to reconnect.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: It's almost like a full circle.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. That's really cool. So what was your reaction
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: then when Taylor finally committed to Clemson and decided to come?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: What a fun day. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: One, it was really cool. It was like, man, this
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: is such a blessing. And like, just again, like we're
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: very big on our family. Like we're very close. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: so it was just like, it was just like, a sign.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, this, this is right. You know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: like this is a affirmation of the work and stuff
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: we went through as a family to get here. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: also like, it was like, man, I was thinking college
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: was to be like my own thing. So I was,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: but I was like, I'm not letting that get in
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the way. And it's been so cool because of it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Just like, I'd say our relationship, like she's like one
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: of my best friends now. I love her. Then before
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: it was like, We're friends.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Would you say the same thing?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: That was a shock. I'd probably say it first. I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: kind of honored that you said it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: But, like, there'd be days in high school, like, before
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: she could drive, driving us to school, and, like, we
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't say a word.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It would just be silent, yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: There was nothing against it, but now it's, like, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: we're texting each other and stuff, you know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you, like, hang out during the week? Like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: do you?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Like we do not all the time but I mean
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we see each other every day like just soccer yeah exactly.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'd say for us like because we're the same season
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: so our schedule is like the same but flipped you
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: know so we're like opposite but like Sundays both of
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: us are usually or actually she's got games but like
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Sundays like this summer though yeah we'll go to church
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: together and that's a cool like start of the week
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: and like see how we check in on each other
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: you know and start the week together.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah do you find that you're pretty protective of her
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: being in the same campus and like being around the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: same people.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. Do you think so?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I don't, not in like a bad way at all.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's more like a security. She's knows
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I'm there.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's more comforting for me to know
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he's here.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But there goes times like it's it, we're a good
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: age gap where it's like our friend's, Our close friends aren't, like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: close friends entirely, you know? Like, there's a little age,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: so that's nice to give us each space, but we're also, like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: right there, you know?
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It's two years, you said. Mm-hmm.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is definitely a good age gap. I'm picturing, like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this is making me laugh. Like, you know, one of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: your friends starts talking to Taylor, and you're kind of like, ooh, no.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. We definitely, yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: He's like, we'll keep it there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Okay. So you guys talked about Sundays going to church together.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: You both are very big in your faith. I know that, um,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: involved in FCA. Can you talk about kind of your
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: involvement in FCA and what that means to you?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Um, I think that obviously like sports gives you such
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a community here. Um, but at the end of the day, like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: our relationships, like, are founded in the Lord, and I
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: think just we have, like, our, I for sure have, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: several Christian athletes, like, teammates that help me grow my faith,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: but outside of the team, like, there's more relationships to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: be made, and so I think FCA has been an
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: awesome outreach that we've been able to get involved in,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and I would say that's another thing that's awesome, like,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Matthias is here, like, he paved a way for me
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: to get involved, like, Just knowing that he was there,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: like he would have me come with him or something
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like that. So I think that is just like a
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: simple thing that he did so well and just kind
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: of like introduced me to people, like getting me plugged in. Um,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: so I joined like he actually, he'll probably talk about,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: but he is like the leader of the athletics outreach
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: team now for the men's side. And like I joined
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the team. So he's kind of like, a leader for
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: me in a way, which obviously, but, um, and so
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: it's just super cool to see like just churches and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: like the Lord just has been the biggest part of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: our family. That's a reason why our family is so close, um, forever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And it's, it's a huge difference. Like once you leave
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: home and just figuring that out on your own. And
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's a huge help that like, he's here
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: with me. Cause it can be hard, but, um, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: just think having the comfort and just like knowing that
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: there's someone else there and just to see the growth. Like,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I mean like Matthias is a totally different person than
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: when he left home in like the best way. So
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that's like super cool. Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: I'd agree. I think, um, like it's what Taylor's saying
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: about finding like men, like our guys were best friends,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: like our team, like that's, those are our guys and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: that's our family and brotherhood. And, you know, we, we
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: do life together and it's awesome. And it's also really
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: cool though, to see like another community that's, you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: cause you can get caught up in your sport, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: and it's, that's like a cool part of our team
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: is that it's more than just our sport, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: but I think FCA has been a great escape and
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: like support for community that I've found and I've been
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: invested in. And now it's like, it's almost like a responsibility,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: but it's like an opportunity to be able to invest
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: back into other people too. Like my sister, you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: and just, um, I was glad, you know, cause I,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I really didn't seek it till like a year ago
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: and it really, um, kept me grounded, but also helped
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: me like enjoy soccer more, you know? Um, and so it's,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: it's really cool to see how that's, that's really helped
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: me and like helped me through opera or challenges, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: also like good times as well, you know? And then, um,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: to help, like hopefully show her the importance of that
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: community and that relationship has really just been something I've,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: that's been like a reflection that I've tried to help
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: her with, you know?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I love that you talked about how FCA gives you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: kind of a purpose outside of your sport. Cause even
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: me being a gymnast, right? Like you get so caught
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: up in, especially when you're in 20 hour weeks and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you're competing and you're around your team all the time,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to get lost in your sport and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: start to identify yourself with that. And so when you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: have a community outside of it, it's really nice and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: really refreshing in a lot of ways to have that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and be able to talk about things other than your
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: sport or just get a break from it all when
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it becomes so heavy and so demanding on you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And Matthias, I love that you said that it even
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: helped you enjoy soccer more. Just a sense of belonging
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: in any community is so important. So to be able to, one,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: have that on your team, but then, two, find it
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: in another place and then bring it back to your
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: team and to others.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Is so special. Definitely.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: That word belonging has been an emphasis on our team
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: that we've really grown about, and it's amazing, like, what
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: being part of something greater than yourself and for those
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: that you love and care for, and when that circle
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: comes to completion, then that's a really cool direction to
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: go with people you really love and care about, you know?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's beautiful. I love it. And so, okay, you're
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: now in an executive role, right? Can you talk about
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that role for FCA?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Um, and what you do and kind of just all
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the details of it. Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So FCA is like a student organization here. Um, so
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: it's like, it's fellowship of Christian athletes, but it's like,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: there's a, it's a whole organization that's like for students
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: as well, not just athletes, you know? Um, and so
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: that's all student led. Um, But I and my co-lead,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Madeline Kurz, who's a rally cat, we are leading the
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: athletics section. So basically, it's like an FCA within itself, right?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: But yeah, basically, our role, Taylor mentioned it earlier, we
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: help lead the athletics outreach team, which is a group
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: of people, students, athletes. And we basically meet once a week,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: go through the Bible, but also we plan events and times, uh,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to have like worship events for athletes. Um, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: so it's once a month and we do a speaker. Um,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: we have like an athlete testimony. So that's like someone
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: sharing their life story, um, and how the Lords work
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: through them. We do games, we offer food, we have dinner,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: pizza and water, you know, go to, um, and then
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: it's a time for discussion. And a big part of
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: that goal is to, is just building community. You know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: we're all like it's evident when you're at the Watt
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: or at your games or in the locker room, like
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: you can see the connection with all the teams. And then, uh,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: part of our goal and is to like connect athletes
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: with each other, you know, like some of my good
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: friends now are, I've got a good friend on the
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: golf team. You know, we have a member on the
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: basketball team I'm really close with now, you know, um,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: it's really cool.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: And so that's, that's been a big goal. It's just like, um,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: building those relationships within the teams or within other athletics,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: and then being able to support and encourage each other
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in life. And so we do those events once a month,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: but we also have like guys and girls nights, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: so that's, that's really just like getting, you know, anybody's
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: invited any athletes, but it's like, just trying to build community,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: you know, within the athletics community, you know, and it's like, Hey,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: any guys want to go play beach volleyball at white beach.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Like we're going at like six, you know, we'll bring
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: waters and nachos or something, you know, but just.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You know, getting people familiar.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a great way to, um, and then
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: we also help with, uh, it was called the salt team.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: We're coming up with a new name. Uh, but, uh, uh, it's, uh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: like basically a representative from each team. Um, and that's
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: another like community, uh, see how they're doing, but also
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: like how they can, um, be a cool witness and
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: just show, uh, what it means to honor the Lord
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: through their sport to their teams as well.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Um, so it's, it's cool. It's a really cool opportunity.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: So I joined the athletics outreach team last year and
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: that's the community I was talking about that people I
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: would never have met students, but also some athletes. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: now like there's some of my closest friends, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I went to, uh, one of the members last year's
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: wedding in Charleston this summer, you know, and it was
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: just like, I'm at their doc in Charleston. Like I
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: would not be here a year ago, you know, uh,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: really cool.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. And you know, you talked about just the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: community aspect of it. I think that's so cool. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: feel like coming to Clemson, that was one thing that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I really looked for. And so I'm very glad that
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: both of you seem to have found that in like
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a community in your sport, but also outside of your sport. Um,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: now Clemson, going on to like the leadership side of things.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Are there any lessons that being in this role has
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: have taught you?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. Um, I think the biggest one, um,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: and this is just being as a person too, but
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: it was like, um, practicing what you say, you know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: like it's so easy to say this, but actions speak
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: so much louder, you know? And so I think, uh, yes,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: it's good to have good values and like hold those
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: standards on a team or, show what it looks like
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to live the way you're saying as a person, but it's,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: it's even more of an influence and more of a, um,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: commitment to actually live that way and do those actions,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: you know, and that like, I've messed up plenty of
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: times here at Clemson, you know, and it's, that's part of, um, leadership,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: like you're saying is like owning up to your mistakes,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you know, and, but it's like what you do after
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: as well and learning from them, you know? Um, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: then like, Hopefully not letting that happen again.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'd say that like meaning what you say
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: and and living that out, you know, and encouraging others
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: when they're doing that. You know, when you see that, like, yes,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you're holding the standard, but you're also their biggest supporter
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a big part of something
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that we talk about as a team and talk about
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: in leadership.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Is not just doing it yourself, but also holding other
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: people accountable in doing it. And that's sometimes really hard
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to do, right? Because you don't want to be the bad,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the bad guy. You don't want to be the one
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: who's stepping on toes, but there's always a friendly way
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of doing it. At the same time, like that's what
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: makes great leaders is when they have the ability to say,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you know what? We expected something different or you can
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: do better. And it's because I believe in you that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you can do better. And not that it's a bad
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: thing that they made a mistake because we all do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: We're all humans, right? But like, that's really cool that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: you talked about that. And I'm glad that kind of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: being involved in this has helped you.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: And I think also, like, that comes with the community
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: and your team culture you build is, like, when you
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: care about those people and you guys trust each other, like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: it's way easier to listen and to understand what that
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: person's saying when they're trying to hold the standard because
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: you know they care for you, right? And it makes
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: it a lot easier to, even though it's going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: be hard sometimes, but it makes it easier to listen
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: because you're like, yeah, that, that person's doing what he's saying,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: but he also, like, he cares that much that I
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: not doing it that he let me know so I
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: don't do it again you know and I think that's
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: important within any team culture community you're a.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Part of you know relationship building exactly and it's all
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: those things you already said it's the one-offs where you're
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: like we're playing volleyball come over here or checking in
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: on them because then when you have the hard conversation
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: it's like this is coming from a place of Me
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: knowing and caring for you.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: And I would say, like, add to that, like, then
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: once it happens and once you fulfill what you're trying
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to do, like, it makes those wins so much bigger.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Sweeter, bigger.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so much sweeter, like, just, like, that they've been
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: able to see the other side and get through it. Mm-hmm.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So Taylor, what has it been like for you? You
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: talked about Matthias being a different person than when he
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: came to Clemson originally and then he is now. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: so he's talking here about this leadership stuff, right? What
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: has it been like for you to see that? And
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: how do you feel like it's also impacted you and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: your ability to grow as a person?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just inspiring. I think that's the first,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing is that it just makes me
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: want to do better. And I would say just having
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: him being in like all these several leadership roles, you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: it's just like, what, how do I want to add
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: these characteristics to my life? Like, how can I add
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: that to my team or like to my friends or,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: and even in just all these different roles. And I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: would say that like, it's just cool. Like maybe I'll
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: be talking to my mom and like, she'll say something
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: about Matthias. I'm like, Oh, like, well he, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: he did this. It was super cool. And she's like, Oh,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: like he didn't tell me that or something. It's just
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: like fun to just, like, be each other's supporters, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think, specifically, like, in soccer, it's just, like, we're
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: not going through the same thing, but we're going through
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: similar things, and it's just a place that, like, we
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: can be there to support each other, and, like, even
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: at the worst times, like, we do understand what each
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: other's going through, and I think that's, like, the coolest
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: thing that a lot of people don't have, and it's just, like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I know if I have something that I need, like,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: support or encouragement, like, I know he understands what I'm
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: going through, and will be there and same for him
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I hope and so I think that's been super cool
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and I think that's made us closer because like it
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: gives us something to bond over almost yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Definitely keeping that like honesty like it's not like telling
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: what she wants to hear or she tells me what
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I want to hear it's like no we see what's
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: going on we know like the standard that's set here
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: at Clemson and being a tiger you know and so
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: it's it's cool yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: A built-in bestie.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Like, you're just right there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, it's the power of just.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Knowing no matter what, you have someone in your corner
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: that truly knows you. We were joking beforehand that Matthias
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: has been in Taylor's entire life, or vice versa. Taylor's
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: been in Matthias' entire life.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Matthias has been my whole life.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You're right. You had a few years.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: But just someone who truly knows you authentically. the entirety
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: of your life, this person has known you and just
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: having them here in your corner through some of the
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: potentially most challenging and developmental years of your.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Life has to just feel really good.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think like he knows he's like, he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: known how I've played specifically soccer forever. So it's like,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: he knows the things to say, or he knows like
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: how I learn or like things like that. And same
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: for him. Like we under, we just understand each other
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: in that way that, People that you just met, even
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: like my closest friends, my best friends I've known for
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: a year, which is crazy to think about because I
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: feel like they've been in my life forever. I mean,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: it's been 18 years or 19 years now that I've
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: known him. So it's just something really cool that maybe
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: you didn't think about before, but it's like, wow, that's awesome.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: That's what's cool about siblings too.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like you reach adulthood, you're like, oh, you're
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: really cool.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to be just fine.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: When she'll like crack a joke, it's like, you're funny.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: But also like exactly what she's saying that I think
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: that goes back to our family and like how our
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: parents taught us, like whatever we're going through is an
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: opportunity to learn. And now it's like, we, we obviously
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: still are supported and helped by them, but like now
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: it's coming from each other too. Not just them, you know,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: which I think is really cool.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So you talked about kind of talking to your mom
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and sometimes he doesn't share information with her and you're,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: do you feel like both of you are pretty good
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: in contact with your mother? Like my brother does not
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: speak at all to my mom. Like she will literally
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: send him a text and just be like, are you alive?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Like that's all. I just need a thumbs up. Like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm calling her three times a day and
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just a girl thing versus
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a guy thing or if it's, what would you say?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I think, We both definitely talk to our parents all
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the time. I think it's like we still I definitely
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: call my mom like at least twice a day, which
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to be honest, like everyone always said that coming into college.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I did not think that'd be me. I'd be like, no,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I'll be fine on my own. I call her all
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the time. I'd like I'll be driving for like five minutes.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, sure.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: But I think. I'll be like, Oh, short calls, just
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like catch up. And then every once in a while
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'll have like a long, like a deep, like I need,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going through something. I feel like their conversations, I
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: feel like are usually always like the long, but I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'd say that's because I'll answer. I'm not, I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: not good at reaching out, you know? Um, but like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I think that's, again, with how important our family is.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: When they call, we answer, though. Or I answer.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I need to do better at that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: There's that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it's hard, too, when you get in the routine
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of things. And this is something I talk about with
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: my cousin. She just ended up going to college. She'll
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: be here freshman year in college. And it's like, you're
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: building a life here. And it's so different than your
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: life at home. And then you'll go back home. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: it'll be like, this is kind of weird now. The
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: place that used to be my place is is no
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: longer that it's like my family, not necessarily my immediate family,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: but a lot of my friends and my home is
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: here in Clemson. And so it's just kind of weird.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And you start to forget about calling your parents or
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: texting your parents. It's nice that they, they always think
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: about you.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: They're always reaching out.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah. It's important to keep that going.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: And like this weekend was super fun. because we both
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: played on Sunday and so my parents drove up and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: just we got to spend the day with them and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that was just like so fun just them coming to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: my game Matthias is there and then like he has
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to leave to get to all his pregame stuff and
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: then I get to hang out with them and then
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: like we get to watch his game together so it's
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: just kind of like oh wow like three years ago
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: we were always watching each other's games and now it's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen much so that's like super fun
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: experience that's.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: So special yeah And in high school, do you feel
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: like you guys had the opportunity to be able to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: watch each other play and kind of learn from each other?
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Or do you feel like in college that's kind of
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: become something that you do?
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I'd say, so I have one example, but first I'd
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: say I think it's definitely heightened in college.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. We always encouraged each other, but I
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: don't think it was like as intentional as it is now.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: You know, I think we feel like we're both in
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: the same boat now, like going through it together. Whereas
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: high school, it was like, yeah, this is her thing
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: is my thing, you know, but I mean, we'll show
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: up to games, you know. But I think an example
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: of us doing that was COVID. Like, you know, lockdown happened.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: But our parents were like, look, we've got all this time.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: together and free time like we're not wasting it you
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: know we're gonna get better whether that's you know just
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: doing footwork in the driveways or going on we we
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: live on a there's like a trail in a lake
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: behind our neighborhood they're like are we we're gonna run
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: that you know or we're gonna do family workouts every
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: night at 7 p.m okay you can go back to
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: what you're doing after but you know it's like yeah
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: we we push each other to get better um during
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: that time when like Literally no one else is watching, right?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Because everybody's shut down, you know? So I'd say that
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: was a time. Yeah, yeah. Agreed.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That was forever ago.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels like yesterday.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Like yesterday and also, like, it never happens. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: No doubt, yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: But it's like, it goes to show, right, how much
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: time flies. I mean, I'm sure... You're a senior now.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, that must feel crazy to you. Every time
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I tell somebody I'm a senior, I'm like, no, I'm not.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I just got here. What are you talking about? And
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: it'll be the same for you.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I already am a sophomore, and I'm like, wow.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Can't believe. When the words come out of your mouth
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: when you don't say freshman, you're like, wait.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And now I'm going to be done.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: And that just keeps happening, everyone. Every day and every year,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: it gets faster. And they're not lying when they tell you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And it just gets faster. But you're in a sweet spot, too.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Well, you all are really.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: But I feel like knowing that you still have like
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: that senior year ahead of you, having that awareness on
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the front end to pick. OK, I'm on the precipice
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: of like coming into the end and you get to
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: be present in it still versus looking back. And that
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: time will still come where you look back and you're like, oh,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: my gosh, it happened. But you're still in all. the
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: good stuff right now. And you're like, you're in the
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: thick of it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: You're in the middle.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: It is all in front of me.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: So Matthias and Taylor, both looking forward into this year,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: knowing that it's just getting started. What's something that you
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: hope to at the end of the year, look back
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and say like, that was meaningful for me.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think obviously performance in soccer is cool, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I think more so I just want to be looked
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: at as you were always there for me. For my teammates,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I want them to say that about me, that I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: was always someone that they could rely on, whether it's practice,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: day in and day out, games, or just nothing to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: do with soccer but just in life. I hope at
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: the end of this season they're like, Wow, Taylor, you
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: really– you were there for me like when I needed
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: you most or when I didn't even need anything at
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: all and you were still there. Like I think just
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: like being consistent, like being a consistent teammate, I would
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: feel like that is something that I've really tried to
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: do specifically since I got to college. Like I feel
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: like that mindset kind of shifted like from high school.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh, like you're trying to get somewhere.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: But now that it's like you're here, it's like what
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: can you do for the team to help the team succeed?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Because it's no longer like what do I need to
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: do to get better? It's like what do I need
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to do to help the team?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really good. I like that you brought
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: up that consistency piece. I feel like that's very important,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: whether it be as a teammate, as a person, showing
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: up consistently and also, you know, bringing your best self
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: wherever you go and constantly doing that. And it doesn't
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: mean that you're having the best day all the time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: but if you're showing up for yourself, if you're showing
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: up for other people, that helps a lot in getting
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: you through that. And so that's, I love that. I
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: love that you brought that up.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd agree. I think, oh, I know, like, Our
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: goal is to win trophies this year as a team,
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: but you can't do that tomorrow, right? And so I
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: think a big emphasis on our team has been talking
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: about and setting the standard of, like, what can we
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: do to get closer? What can we do, most importantly,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: to make the jersey and the crest of the Clemson
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: logo better than it was before we got here, you know?
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: And so that's exactly what you're saying. Like, the little
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: things every day, doing them consistently right and being intentional
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: with each other with our teammates, our relationships, you know,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: how we work every day, how we go through these
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: little drills, how we pay attention to film, how we
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: hang out outside of facility or eat meals together. You know, it's, um,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: want it to be focused and intentional. And, and through that,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of joy. There's a lot of hard
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: times too that, but through that community, it's like, we're
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: going through this together, you know? And so I just want, um,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: us at the end of the year to look back
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: and say, we, we did what we could And we
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: did it together. And yes, we're going to learn from it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: But also like we don't regret having those hard conversations,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: doing that extra sprint, having that fun day together outside
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: of soccer. You know, like we we love what we
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: did and we love doing it together, you know?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: And I think, too, with that, right, you talked you
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: said the word regret. And I feel like a lot
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of people think that regrets are like you get to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a point and it's like, oh, I failed. OK, I
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: regret this. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you have
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to regret something if you didn't succeed. You know, kind
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: of going into it, it's like if you get to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the end and things didn't turn out quite how you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to, but you look back and you know that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: you did everything you could. And then you also reflect
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: on that and say, hey, I learned a lot of
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: things along the way. Then there's no regrets to be had.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that the outcome has to be there.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So I think that's something for sure that you kind
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: of pieced through that in what you said. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned trophies and you did win a national
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: championship your freshman year.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: What was that like?
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, it was unreal. Like we were saying earlier, especially
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: it's four of us left from my class. We remember
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: it like it was yesterday. I mean, that's unbelievable memory,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: unbelievable team. unbelievable just bond we had you know it
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: was like going through it you know maybe in the
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: tournament I was like there's no doubt we're doing it
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: it's just how are we going to do it you
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: know it's what do we have to do to get
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: there and we're going to do that you know and
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: then um I think it's the same thing it was
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: just like we love what we were doing every day
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: no matter what it was it was like we got
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: us doing that you know we um for me for
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: example it was like I didn't play at all that year,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: and I still felt just as valued. That's not a
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: testament to me. That's a testament to the team. That's
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: a team who understands their purpose, who understands that it's
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: greater than themselves and that we're here for Clemson, not
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: just ourselves. And through that, there was a lot of
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: personal success within the team, a lot of growth within myself.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: And just within like my class in general, it's so
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: cool to look back and see like how far we've
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: come just as people, as our relationships, as players, you know,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: and it's it's really cool. And it's it's now for us.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: It's a initiator. Like, what are we going to do now?
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: You know, and let's do it again.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Lights that fire in you.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And Taylor, what about you watching that, watching him? you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: be a part of a team that wins a national championship. What,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: what is that like for you?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super cool. So actually that championship. So
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I think, I mean, it was in December at some
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: point I had like my high school finals that week.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: So me and my parents and I, like, we drove
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: down to, it was in Kentucky in Louisville and we
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: drove down for the game. Um, we got there, I think,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a night game, probably like seven
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: or something. watch the game, you know, they win, like,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. Like, it is a crazy environment just to, like, see, like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: and we just hear everything that they've been doing the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: whole year. So it's, like, we've been hearing, like, what
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: they've been putting in, you know, and just to see
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: them win and then, like, to be on, like, go
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: celebrate with them and then, like, also that's another, like,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: to see my dad, like, see his coach win with,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: his son wow that was like probably his that's probably
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: why he was like so excited um but with all
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: that like it was so cool and then like we
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: drove straight home that night and like 8 a.m the
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: next day I had to go take my final yeah
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: and but like it was like it was like the
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: coolest thing um I mean that's that's a dream like
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: that that was the dream and it's like wow that
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: really happened and I think that's.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: The coolest part like you said the dream like that's
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: a cool thing and like we're talking about reflection and
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: learning from it. It was like, man, we wanted so
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: badly to win those trophies, but like, we got so
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: much more out of it than just like that one
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: night and that one week of celebrating.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: That was, you know, one of my best memories of
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: my life, no doubt. But also like that whole year,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: like this, the stupid memories of just like the banter
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: going on in the locker room or those fun times
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: at lunch together, just those training sessions when everybody was
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: getting after it, you know, it's like, man, that was
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: so fun. And I get now why we won, you know,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: it's because we loved what we were doing and we
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: were like pushing each other to do it well, you know?
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: So I think just winning something just shows you so
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: much more than just what that output goal is, you know?
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. And now do you feel like once
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you guys did achieve the dream, what was that like
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: on the other side then? like the next week, the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: next day, the next year that you guys then had
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: to go and repeat or try again? Like, what was
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: that like?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: No doubt. Yeah, it's hard. Last game, we talked about it. Like,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: you know, you prepare to deal for adversity, but we
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: also have been prepared to deal with success, you know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: and it's holding that standard is hard, especially when you're
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: doing it because it's like complacency is right around the corner,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: you know? And so, yeah, it's the same thing. It's like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: we have a phrase that our coach tells us and
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: that we all like hold that standard to is we
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: do common things in an uncommon way. You know, it's like, yeah,
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: maybe we got to do this. We got to walk
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: over here or like we're going to go lift because
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: every team does that. But are we going to do
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: that differently? Are we going to jog to the gym?
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Are we going to celebrate and motivate each other when
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: we're doing simple things like cleaning the facility, like going
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: through warmups? You know, we're going to, do the simple
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: things to the best of our ability. And, um, that
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: shows and adds to like when the big things come,
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: we're prepared and ready for it, you know?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things about sports is that
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's so many metaphors for life, right?
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Talk about doing common things in an uncommon way. And
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: if you just translate that into your job, into your relationships,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: into whatever it might be, it's like, you're probably going
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to be successful because you just you had that instilled
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: within you in your sport, but then also if you
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: carry that with you throughout your life, you're going to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: do great things as well. That's really cool.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: And I think that's why we've been invested so much
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: in Clemson now. It's like, man, without this school, without
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: this team, none of this other stuff was a possibility.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: And now it's like we've been given so many gifts,
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: and now it's like, Can we give back what they've
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: given us, you know, in other ways? So it's cool.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: When you think back to your freshman year, your first year,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: what is something... that really stuck with you or that
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: you learned maybe that you weren't expecting to but as
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: you've kind of transitioned you're like oh this was a
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: really big lesson.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah um I would say kind of like what I
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: said earlier of how like I want this season to
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: end but like this freshman year just college in general
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: like taught me how important it is to be a
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: good teammate to your teammates. I mean, to be honest,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: before college, like, you're playing the whole games. You're playing
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: 90 minutes, scoring all the time, like, doing what you can.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: But once you get here, like, everyone here was the
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: best where they came from. And so it's just taking
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: on a new role and being okay with that role
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: and knowing that you need to do it but not
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: settling for that role either. It's still, like, trying to
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: get more out of it but also– I think just
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: doing whatever your role is to the best of your ability.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: He was saying doing the little things the best you can,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: and I think that just makes a huge difference at
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the end of the day. And I think if you're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: able to understand that, it makes you have so much
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: more fun too because you're seeing progress, whether it's you're
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: playing more or it's just people can rely on you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: and need you. Like no matter what it is, like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: you just you see that. And I think that obviously
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: when you see things come to fruition, like that gives
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you like energy and excitement to want to keep going.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you talked about when you come to college, it
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  Speaker 1: can be a little bit of a shocker, right? When
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  Speaker 1: you used to be maybe the best on your team
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  Speaker 1: and then you get to college, it's like everybody's really good.
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  Speaker 1: And that's hard. But also kind of a fun, funny
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  Speaker 1: piece to that is like, did you ever have a
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  Speaker 1: moment that you came to college and you're like, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in college now. Like a welcome to college athletics moment.
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  Speaker 2: You got one?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like for me, it was just the first
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  Speaker 1: time that like, We had to, back when Clemson didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a gymnastics facility, we had to drive to, like,
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  Speaker 1: Eastley or Anderson to go there. And, like, we're driving,
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  Speaker 1: and we go to practice, and we have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: our three-hour practice. And then we're all, like, booking it.
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  Speaker 1: to weights because we had to drive 30 minutes back
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  Speaker 1: and we're just getting texts of like, there's cops, there's cops,
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  Speaker 1: don't go too fast. And then you go and you lift.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's people who are going straight from lift
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  Speaker 1: to class. And then you go from class. And as
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  Speaker 1: a freshman, you have 10 hours of study hall and
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  Speaker 1: you're doing the study hall. And then it's like, that
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  Speaker 1: to me was, it was never like one singular moment,
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  Speaker 1: but it was really just the whole idea of like,
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  Speaker 1: you really don't have a lot of time. You kind
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: of just constantly go, go, go. And I think for me,
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  Speaker 1: that was, that was mine I got.
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  Speaker 4: One um I'd say first preseason it was like you
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  Speaker 4: know we we show up we've we've been here like
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  Speaker 4: like a little over a month this summer like conditioning
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  Speaker 4: getting ready for it but like it's still coming you
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  Speaker 4: know and we get to preseason and it's guys you
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  Speaker 4: know three four years older than me as well and
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  Speaker 4: um it's like all right we're doing fitness tests you
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  Speaker 4: know and it's like I knew this was coming, but
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  Speaker 4: it's like you're not ready for it. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 4: as best ready as you can be, but, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like you've got to do this. You do it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and it's awesome. Like that's your, like, first
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  Speaker 4: step taking to being part of the team again. And
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  Speaker 4: then it's like, all right, we're going to the field now.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and if you're not here in five minutes,
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  Speaker 4: you're not training. Get there, go to the field, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like 100 miles an hour. I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 4: these guys don't put their foot off the gas. And
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  Speaker 4: then it's like, you know, we go in for film. whatnot,
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  Speaker 4: get our meal, and then we have, like, two hours off,
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  Speaker 4: and then it's like, all right, we're playing again. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you're back to it. And it's like, you know, college
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  Speaker 4: athletics in Clemson, like, they can't wait for you. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you got to hop on the train and get ready
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  Speaker 4: to get going because it doesn't wait for you, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And so the sooner you adapt to that and grow
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  Speaker 4: into that, the sooner success comes and the growth comes,
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  Speaker 4: you know. But it's, yeah, it takes, it's a transition,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: But it's awesome. So worth it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Do you have any advice for
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  Speaker 1: people who are trying to make that transition?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say advice from what I've learned is like
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  Speaker 4: being a learner and like, but not losing your confidence,
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  Speaker 4: you know? It's like believing in yourself, but also believing
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  Speaker 4: in yourself that you can be this, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: setting your mind to that, you know? And so it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, your abilities, but also like, look, you're going
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: to mess up. That's, that's why we're playing college sports,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like, okay, how do you respond to that?
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  Speaker 4: How do I learn from that? You know, whatever situation
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  Speaker 4: you're put in, it's like, um, how can you learn
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  Speaker 4: and grow and adapt to that scenario where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I understand that now, now I'm not going to do
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  Speaker 4: that or I'm going to do this because that better
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  Speaker 4: sets me up for this next thing, you know? And
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  Speaker 4: so I, I say always find an opportunity to learn.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, and see a lesson through whatever you're going through.
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  Speaker 4: It may be simple. It's like, you're not in this
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  Speaker 4: one training session or this one training drill, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well I'm going to see what someone
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  Speaker 4: in my position is doing or someone that I look
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  Speaker 4: up to is doing, and I'm going to add that.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's like, wow, maybe a couple of years later,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: somebody is going to look at you and do the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: same thing, you know, and you're doing that or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I would just say like Clemson specifically, like,
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  Speaker 2: You transition to so much, and it's kind of so
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  Speaker 2: much all at once. But the people here, they just
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  Speaker 2: want you to succeed. There's no one here that's preying
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  Speaker 2: on your downfall. Everyone wants the best for you. And
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  Speaker 2: I think as soon as you can recognize that, even
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: the hard times, it's like, okay, what's the purpose of this?
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  Speaker 2: They're doing this so I get better. It's never like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're doing this because they hate me. They're doing this
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  Speaker 2: because they want me to be miserable. No, it's doing
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  Speaker 2: it to get something out of you. And I think
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  Speaker 2: like once you can realize that, like it makes the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: work so much more rewarding. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And leaning on that support system too.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. Like your coaches, your teammates, the neary staff,
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  Speaker 2: like everyone wants you to succeed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's all great stuff. It is very.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So.
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  Speaker 1: Last and final question. This one, the title of this
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  Speaker 1: is Beyond the Paw, right? I want to know in
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  Speaker 1: one sentence or maybe a little bit more than one sentence,
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  Speaker 1: who are you beyond the paw? It's a loaded one.
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  Speaker 4: Who are you beyond the paw?
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  Speaker 1: Who am I beyond the paw?
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that I'm a very empathetic person. I
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  Speaker 1: love people. I love leaving an impact on people. And
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  Speaker 1: I love knowing that I've helped them become the best
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  Speaker 1: version of themselves. And I like to see other people
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  Speaker 1: succeed and be there for them through it all. Whether
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it's all through the highs, but
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  Speaker 1: also the lows. I would say I'm a friend. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a daughter. I'm a sister.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a.
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  Speaker 1: Creative person. I like to bake. There's so many things
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  Speaker 1: beyond just what I do in gymnastics that I feel
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  Speaker 1: like make me me.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. You got it? Sure. I would say like
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  Speaker 2: you said, or like we said earlier, joy is what
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  Speaker 2: I used to describe me. I would say that I
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  Speaker 2: beyond the paw and a joyful person that like truly
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: tries to bring something to every situation, like bring positivity
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: or bring joy, or even if maybe it's a hard
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: time and like, it's just time to be real. But
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just someone that people can always
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: rely on to be there for them. And I think
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  Speaker 2: my family, like my parents, my brother, my sister, like
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  Speaker 2: they have established that and built that in me. Uh,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to know that like, to that be my first instinct.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even have to think that I like, Oh,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Matthias is struggling. Like he needs help. Like I want
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  Speaker 2: to help. And I feel like that is something that
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  Speaker 2: I really try to do outside of soccer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'd say I'm a competitor and I'm going to do
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  Speaker 4: my best to be the best I can be, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm also, um, full of gratitude, thankful for where I am,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: the opportunities I've been given, people I've met, the lessons
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: I've learned, like the mistakes I've made, the, hardships I've
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: been through and as well as like, um, the good
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: times and the successes that have happened as well. It's like, um,
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  Speaker 4: not forgetting to be grateful for where you're at and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: what you're doing. Um, but also, um, through that, I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: want to lead, be a leader and help people know
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: where they want to get to and try and show
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: them that way. But also a leader who's willing to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: be led, you know, when there's someone stepping up and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: are shown what the right thing to do is, Acknowledging
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  Speaker 4: that and understanding that and listening to that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for coming on and
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  Speaker 1: for sharing a lot about your sibling dynamic, your faith,
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  Speaker 1: your love for soccer and all things beyond. soccer, too.
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  Speaker 1: So I had a lot of fun this episode.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be watching this season.
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  Speaker 1: We will be.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks.