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Indianapolis 500 Grand Marshall Caitlin Clark · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, goody, everybody, welcome to another edition of the Fortune
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  Speaker 1: change right name. It's common working our Horner City mad Mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Glad to have a regular group here tonight. We have Eric,
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  Speaker 1: we have Hollywood, Tony. This should be Bestomer City. That's okay,
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  Speaker 1: how old, that's okay. We'll come Hollywood for the night,
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  Speaker 1: a big deal and body, he'll just be forced to
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  Speaker 1: come up with a Bestomer city one on Saturday when
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  Speaker 1: we talked faithball, that's all he has to do, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have I had that word, gotcha lot
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  Speaker 1: of candy? Did you spread this up? But gotcha? Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Nevertheless, we have Markey and I. We
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  Speaker 1: have candy now and we have need. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that said, let's get to a heavy agenda tonight. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go back to tellage basketball at least one more time.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about the women last week. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: the mendos Laite Men's Tournament labor last four teams left
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  Speaker 1: in twenty five They had Auburn Florida duke in Houston.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty sixth at Connecticut, Illinois, Arizona and me. She again.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Eric, let's talk about the fact that unlike
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  Speaker 1: the women last year we had everybody identical, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of identical stuff this time. Well that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's great because the NCAA tournament, like, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot more parody to it than the women's game because
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  Speaker 2: the men's the men's game. There, say, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: obviously a team can kind of we've seen it before,
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  Speaker 2: a team kind of can come out of nowhere and
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  Speaker 2: just play unbelievable basketball and bring some upsets and and
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  Speaker 2: really and really shake up everybody's brackets. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: really depends on the players you get recruiting and also
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  Speaker 2: the players that you get in the transfer portal. That's
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  Speaker 2: what it boils down to, and the fact it really
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  Speaker 2: you know, to me, the transfer portal is where you
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  Speaker 2: really is, where you is where you really win your
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  Speaker 2: you win the war there, right, and and so it
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  Speaker 2: just comes it just comes down to that. So that
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  Speaker 2: also creates a lot more parody. But yeah, the men's
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  Speaker 2: the men's terment's great just because you just don't know
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  Speaker 2: who it's going to be. I've been doing brackets for
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  Speaker 2: years and I've I never can get it right no
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  Speaker 2: matter how much college basketball I think I know or
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  Speaker 2: paid attention to.
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  Speaker 1: All, right, Tony, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No surprise, it's just harder in the men's side. Uh
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  Speaker 3: we all, like you said the parody and the women's
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  Speaker 3: is different. You could see the number one seed blow
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  Speaker 3: out the number ten seed in the women's game, where
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  Speaker 3: seeing the twenty five team beat the number one team
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  Speaker 3: isn't that big of an upset in men's. But it
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  Speaker 3: all comes down to the money you got for the
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  Speaker 3: n i L Transfer portal and how good you can
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  Speaker 3: recruit and college people aren't transferring out of Yukon. People
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  Speaker 3: aren't transferring from I mean from women's I should say,
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  Speaker 3: aren't transferring from South Carolina those schools. People probably are
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  Speaker 3: going to transfer out of Houston, even though they would
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  Speaker 3: you know, after they would go to the final four.
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  Speaker 3: People might go from Michigan and you know they might lose.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to lose a couple of people to the pros.
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  Speaker 3: So that changes stuff too. You know, the great players
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  Speaker 3: have done going one and done, so they're not even
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  Speaker 3: sticking around, where in women's game they gotta stay for
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  Speaker 3: at least three years. So it's multiple factors that changes
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  Speaker 3: things around. But I like it because, like the NFL
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  Speaker 3: or other sports. Any team can win it and that
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  Speaker 3: brings more injury.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Marquee, well, there are more.
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  Speaker 4: How can I explain that? You know, we had this conversation.
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  Speaker 5: I think that the women's tournament, you know they have
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  Speaker 5: the sixty odd teams.
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  Speaker 4: I guess we'll go to seventy six.
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  Speaker 5: There are not seventy six teams in women's basketball that
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  Speaker 5: can win a national title. You really only have you know,
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned that the four repeat it. Really you only
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  Speaker 5: have a handful of teams that can get there.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I do think you know that certainly there's more parody
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  Speaker 5: in men's basketball, but I think there's less now than
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  Speaker 5: there was just a couple of years ago. And you're
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  Speaker 5: seeing this with the demise of the mid majors pulling
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  Speaker 5: as many upsets. Sure you had high point with their
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  Speaker 5: four million dollar nil budget, or maybe it's only two
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  Speaker 5: point five million, but it's a lot for a mid
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  Speaker 5: major team, and they were able to beat Wisconsin, okay,
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  Speaker 5: And that was basically about it in terms of the
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  Speaker 5: mid majors beating a top team and or a a
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  Speaker 5: major conference team at least. And so I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how much more you're going to see that because of
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  Speaker 5: an ils When I know two years ago in East
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  Speaker 5: Sennessee State, which I follow and cover, their athletic director
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  Speaker 5: will say, well, we're hoping to have a two hundred
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  Speaker 5: thousand dollar an eye budget. You're just not going to
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  Speaker 5: be able to, you know, win in the NCAA tournament
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  Speaker 5: with that when you get put up against a top
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  Speaker 5: four c the I do think, yeah, there are going
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  Speaker 5: to be more elite teams. And as you said, you
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  Speaker 5: know that really that big of a surprise number twenty
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  Speaker 5: four beats number one, but it is in women's basketball certainly,
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  Speaker 5: and I do think though it is going to become
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  Speaker 5: very much a surprise when sixty four beats number one,
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  Speaker 5: Whereas you know, just a few years ago you would
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  Speaker 5: have that with say Maryland, Baltimore County or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think those days, unless something changes, are just about over, Kady.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Let's also there are a lot of differences between the
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  Speaker 7: men and women's game. One of the differences is the
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  Speaker 7: men play two twenty minute halves where the women play
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  Speaker 7: four to ten minute quarters, which aligns with the w A,
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  Speaker 7: NBA and stuff like that. The men's side, yes, there's
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  Speaker 7: definitely way more money thrown at them, whether it be
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  Speaker 7: ni L, whether it be and it's feeder league into
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  Speaker 7: NBA w NBA isn't as old.
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  Speaker 2: But the one.
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  Speaker 7: The other thing that I think of is I think
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  Speaker 7: there are some definite iconic women's basketball coaches, and yes
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  Speaker 7: there are a couple of men but in the men's game.
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  Speaker 7: But they've they've moved around a little bit more like
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  Speaker 7: Gino has not moved for Yukon for women for how
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  Speaker 7: many years, like decades? You know, we're not talking just
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  Speaker 7: a little bit of time. Uh So, definitely, you know.
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  Speaker 7: And you think of like Dusty May he started at
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  Speaker 7: FAU and then he went to Michigan. Good great coach,
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  Speaker 7: and he's learning how to do it differently because he's
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  Speaker 7: also learning how to instead of just the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 7: how to get international players as well. And I don't
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  Speaker 7: know if we see international players as much in the
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  Speaker 7: women's game as we do now in the men's game
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  Speaker 7: as well.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point too, because his successor, I think
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  Speaker 1: John Jackets over at FAU also relies on them as well.
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  Speaker 1: And all before I turn over to Cliff, I think Marky,
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  Speaker 1: you're dead on her. You just do not see that
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  Speaker 1: many big upsets. One of the reasons why you have
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  Speaker 1: March madness as you're looking for the upset. Whether I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, March madness is not maddening the madness as
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  Speaker 1: much as it used to because of what you just
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  Speaker 1: alluded to, Marky, and that's transfer Portal and the nil.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why a lot of people got excited
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  Speaker 1: about it with March Madness because of that. I think
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  Speaker 1: when you move it up to seventy six, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: crazy about the move, to be honest with Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about it at length on a later show. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to allude to what Marky said because of that.
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  Speaker 1: He made some really strong points in his situation. But
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  Speaker 1: the parody just isn't there. But Dusty made gets it right.
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  Speaker 1: Not only did he get transfer Portal use it magnificently,
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  Speaker 1: but he taps into that international market as well, and
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  Speaker 1: so great points by both the all right, Cliff pulls
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  Speaker 1: out the topic the comments coming in in the chat
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  Speaker 1: room as well.
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  Speaker 8: It's it's all about it's all about the money and yeah,
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  Speaker 8: okay yy, they grown to seventy six teams are half
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  Speaker 8: of them or half of them? I really have a
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  Speaker 8: shot thirty. Do you think thirty eight of the seventy
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  Speaker 8: six will have a shot. No, they just want to,
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  Speaker 8: just want to and we all know it. It's all
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  Speaker 8: about the money. I mean, it's well from Towsing University.
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  Speaker 8: I know it's not a powerhouse or anything, but he
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  Speaker 8: had a player. His name's Tyler Tahata. He went up
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  Speaker 8: to Cincinnati. He was our big player. I think he
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  Speaker 8: was getting three hundred grand a year. And that's Towsing University.
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  Speaker 8: That's not exactly a powerhouse thing. They play like Stonybrook
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  Speaker 8: and and James Madison and stuff like that. And uh yeah,
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  Speaker 8: so it's it's all about it's all about the money.
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  Speaker 8: We know who's Yeah, are there surprises? Yeah, sure they
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  Speaker 8: had the Houston in there, you know, but honestly we know,
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  Speaker 8: we know they're not. I don't even think half the
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  Speaker 8: teams of those seventy six will get in there. It's
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  Speaker 8: probably if you think about twenty twenty eight to twenty four,
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  Speaker 8: maybe that that are probably don't definitely gonna go in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I know everybody's got a shot, but do they really
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  Speaker 8: And and and the smaller ones are never gonna ever
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  Speaker 8: get there. They're just happy. Hey, we were there, we're participating.
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  Speaker 8: Give them their participation trophy, now go oh long, and
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  Speaker 8: they probably get some sort of other type of money
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  Speaker 8: or notoriety. And they played up. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 8: seventy six is just silly. I mean, it's like, yo
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  Speaker 8: ya they we all know those teams aren't gonna have
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  Speaker 8: a chance.
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  Speaker 2: This is a this is a money, and it's for
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  Speaker 2: the NCAA to maintain whatever dignity they have left.
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  Speaker 1: Good point, Eric, I'll tell you Kenny short of this,
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  Speaker 1: last time this kid made money, grab whatever left.
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  Speaker 9: I like, you go ahead, Marty, I would say that
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  Speaker 9: I think the NCAA has quote unquote governed in the
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  Speaker 9: last oh I didn't even say thirty years in a
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  Speaker 9: way that it's.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, please sec please big ten, don't break away from us.
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  Speaker 5: The old line of Jerry Tarkanian saying, uh, you know, oh,
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  Speaker 5: the NCAA was so mad at Kentucky they gave Cleveland
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  Speaker 5: State a couple extra years of probation really has some
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  Speaker 5: truth to it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, there are what a.
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  Speaker 5: Three hundred and sixty six Division one teams or so,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, yeah, we were talking about parody.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously there's a big difference. If you have three und
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  Speaker 5: and sixty six teams, there's gonna be a big difference
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  Speaker 5: BEWE number one and three sixty six. Now maybe one
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  Speaker 5: to twenty it's a different story. But where where I'm
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  Speaker 5: going with this is I think the seventy six field expansion.
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  Speaker 4: I know you say we've talked about that. Unfortunately it's not.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, we know that Miami, after the year
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  Speaker 5: they had Miami Ohio, will make him.
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  Speaker 4: It's not really for that.
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  Speaker 5: It's not really for saying a year gone by where
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  Speaker 5: a mid major, strong number one team, they lose in
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  Speaker 5: the tournament, Well, you'll still get your bid.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that'll happen, maybe that won't.
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  Speaker 5: What it is for is so you know Auburn can
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  Speaker 5: make it from last year finished runner up in the NIT.
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  Speaker 5: But really we're just barely about five hundred, and you
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  Speaker 5: knew that they weren't gonna win the night, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean the whole thing. Who's more deserving Auburn or Miami?
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  Speaker 5: You know that debate that we used to hear last year.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it's for well, we can have that
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  Speaker 5: nineteen win SEC team, that nineteen victory Big ten team,
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  Speaker 5: who isn't gonna win it, but they're invited. They're in
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  Speaker 5: the The NCAA is just desperate to keep the Big
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  Speaker 5: ten in the SECM. But I'm out of the ACC
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  Speaker 5: and as the major conferences. I'll even say, look at
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  Speaker 5: the probations that are let down. I made the Jerry
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  Speaker 5: Turcanium mark. But consider this, when Clemson won the national
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  Speaker 5: title and it was supposed to do this is their
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  Speaker 5: first one way back when nineteen eighty one and the
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  Speaker 5: next year they went on probation and there was this
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  Speaker 5: feeling that Clemson was a dirty team. And the reason
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  Speaker 5: why is a couple of boosters paid some recruits and
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  Speaker 5: never actually played for him anywhere, depending on you talked
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  Speaker 5: to five hundred dollars or a thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 4: That was.
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  Speaker 5: But they got three years probation in that no TV,
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  Speaker 5: no Bowl games. When Penn State committed the world's worst
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  Speaker 5: crime in athletics, they got two years, no TV.
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  Speaker 4: Band You'll never see that again.
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  Speaker 5: The NCAA is absolutely spetrified. They're scared to death that
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  Speaker 5: the SEC and Big ten are going to break away.
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  Speaker 4: Eventually, I think they will, but whether it's five.
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  Speaker 5: Years from out, ten, twenty, they're trying everything they can
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  Speaker 5: do to appease them by, and that is including oh,
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  Speaker 5: sure the number ten sec team can make the NCAA tournament.
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  Speaker 4: Now that's what this is about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind gun Zagga used to get in
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  Speaker 1: no matter what. Now they've built themselves up such a
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  Speaker 1: reputation they get in anyways for sure. Yeah, great points
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  Speaker 1: all the way around. Let's talk about another topic that
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  Speaker 1: really caught my attention. This is disturbing a little bit
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  Speaker 1: because actually the Iowa State versus West Virginia Jim Mathis
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  Speaker 1: event was actually canceled. When when this came across mind,
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  Speaker 1: I had to bring this up at everybody, but cancel
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  Speaker 1: do then not enough athletes? That's something that bothers me
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  Speaker 1: when an event is canceled. Do the not enough athletes
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  Speaker 1: to bother me? He says that this time we do
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  Speaker 1: not have enough student athletes available to safely feel the
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  Speaker 1: team against West Virginia, and regrettably, we must cancel this.
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  Speaker 1: Competitions at Iowa State University had gymnasticis coach Ashley Miles Craig.
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  Speaker 1: You know that is loaded a not enough athletes. So
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  Speaker 1: having of that, this bothers me. Marky. I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: take the lead on this, you covered college a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I'm actually covering gymnastics in Morgantown back but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: for a paper in Utah or someplace like I forget exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I remember thinking, and I remember thinking came I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to do this for a check, and thinking after I
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  Speaker 5: came away, I really enjoyed that. You know, gymnastics, that's
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  Speaker 5: a very sexy sport, to tell you the true anyhow,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, there there is that feeling. I think also
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  Speaker 5: what you have there Iowa State. Let's face at Iowa
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  Speaker 5: State historically, I mean they've always been facing zero to
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  Speaker 5: two count as an athletic program. I mean sure, under
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  Speaker 5: Matt Campbell they had some success in football, but I
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  Speaker 5: don't think they've won a conference title in one hundred years.
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  Speaker 5: You know this, Iowa State is sort of the one
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  Speaker 5: of the ancillary power for programs, and when it trickles
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  Speaker 5: down to gymnastics, I can see where, oh gee, we
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  Speaker 5: put our money so we could you know, finally win
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  Speaker 5: in football and be respectable there where. Yeah, maybe you
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  Speaker 5: do skimp and you don't have enough athletes or you
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  Speaker 5: don't have the team that you think could field a
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  Speaker 5: competitive event against a West Virginia, which, as I've said,
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  Speaker 5: I've been to events at West Virginia gymnastics events when
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  Speaker 5: they've hosted NCAA championships, so you know they take this
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  Speaker 5: wort kind of seriously. I guess in Morgantown, I can
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  Speaker 5: see that it's a yeah. I mean, but again, I
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  Speaker 5: think the way the NCAA is changing, I'm wondering if
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  Speaker 5: we're going to see your gymnastics, you know, in the future,
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  Speaker 5: those teams, those tennis teams. I think the money is
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  Speaker 5: going to go to basketball and football. But then again
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  Speaker 5: that's where the interest is. So maybe the gymnasts instead
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  Speaker 5: of Iowa State trying to bend over backwards, but the
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  Speaker 5: gymnasts of the future will be competing or training the
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  Speaker 5: way figure skaters do.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, am I surprised at gymnastics event canceled
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  Speaker 7: due to the lack of athletes, you know, women's sports.
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  Speaker 7: I think part of it too is like Simone Biles
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  Speaker 7: has made it are so clear that it's okay to
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  Speaker 7: be have mental health issues and to take care of
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  Speaker 7: your mental health. And I think sometimes they're less stressing
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  Speaker 7: on gymnastics. I think sometimes we push so much, uh
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  Speaker 7: kids or girls and boys, and we're trying to make
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  Speaker 7: them just one trick ponies and so specialized that sometimes
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  Speaker 7: they want to be well rounded and they and they
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  Speaker 7: maybe they.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe they don't want to.
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  Speaker 7: Concentrate and focus as much on gymnastics. And let's face it,
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  Speaker 7: like there have been some gymnastics coaches that were not
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  Speaker 7: on the up and up, and that might have scared
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  Speaker 7: a lot of girls away from some of those gymnastics
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  Speaker 7: as well. You know, we've had some scandals in the
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  Speaker 7: gymnastics world college as well, so that could be part
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  Speaker 7: of it as well. And maybe with the resurgence of
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  Speaker 7: college women's basketball and the w NBA that they're they're
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  Speaker 7: swinging from, because really, in gymnastics, you have college and
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  Speaker 7: then you have Olympics and you don't really don't have
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  Speaker 7: anything after that, Whereas if you go to gymnastics, I
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  Speaker 7: mean not gymnastics, basketball or tennis, there's a life after
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  Speaker 7: college that you can compete if you're in the sports arena.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the thing I'll say is this, Mary lou rettens
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  Speaker 1: are not grown on trees. It's too bad because I
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  Speaker 1: was in the nineteen eighty four Olympics in La and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go to a gymnastics event per se, but
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  Speaker 1: I did happen to be a Westwood at the time
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  Speaker 1: with my cousin Terry, my late cousin Terry, And when
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  Speaker 1: I saw Mary Lou what she did, it was falling away.
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  Speaker 1: And he talked about the way that young lady went
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  Speaker 1: out there and carrying everything, that what she did was
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  Speaker 1: just surreal.
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  Speaker 5: Really well, it goes to show you how they take
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  Speaker 5: gymnastics seriously in West Virginia. I mean, she's a native
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  Speaker 5: West Virginia. She didn't go to Texas, I mean University
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: of Texas where she went to the college. But no,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I mean she's yeah, you know, I mean that was
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: and was such a hero in a small state back then.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: And if you weren't around, and I know it's ancient history,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: it's forty two years ago, but if you can remain
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I mean she you know, you can you remember the
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: and another thing, television ads for drug stores or whatever.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: She was ubiquitous, she was a star and all that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: So again when you look at I was looking at
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: that Iowa state and I'm wondering lack of athletes. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: wonder if they just had, you know, the discrepancy between
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: a team from West Virginia and a team from Iowa
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: State might have something to do with it as well.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the other thing too. I mean, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: like to think gymnastics is a very niche kind of
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: regional sport in the same light as the same light
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: as like hockey. Is The only difference though, is you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: with the Olympics, you know, excuse me with the with
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: with gymnastics, you have the Olympics. You know, you have
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: college and then you have the Olympics. That's it. The Olympics.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: That's the a coin. Whether you make you make it. Actually,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I argue saying you've got a better chance of getting
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: struck by lightning than make the that make the United
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: States national team, because it's it's that competitive. But the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a it's you know, unfortunately, there just
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: isn't like enough. And also i'd say, like what happened
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: unfortunately at the United States Olympic Academy where that's that
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: just heinous scandal took place, you know, that kind of
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that kind of hurt the sport as well. And I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: think I think we're only seeing the We're just starting
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to see now the repercussions of of of the of
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that unfortunate event kind of play out, and I think
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it really hurt the sport and did a lot of
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: damage to it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I agree, But I think anytime a big gets canceled,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: do not enough athletes that big volumes.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's a niche sport and I just don't see it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I would not think of Iowa State as an Olympic
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: as a gymnastics place.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I agree, but it's just a thought of not enough
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: athletes doesn't really bot There's me about the whole thing,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: how that I don't have a lot more things to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: want to cover while we have Markey for the first time.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Cliff, Yeah, I think everything you're saying, I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: here and here with the other factors, But I mean,
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: what about the whole money thing. Now we have all
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: this money now, and then maybe oh, that doesn't make
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: money for us, so you're gonna have less support for that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: That has to have something. And then then we have
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: what about Title nine? Kind of gotten away from that
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: and now that's and a lot of programs were really
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: promoting for many many years, uh in which they should
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: have and brought up women's sports. And then some guys
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: sports kind of got put down to club level stuff
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: to even it out. But now with this money involved,
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: how I'm not gonna tell me that doesn't have some
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: sort of impact.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's just think.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: It's just one thing. I think it's it's it's probably
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: a combination of a lot of different things and all
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: things that you've been talking about here today.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Well, may I ask, I mean, at what point do
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: is an athletic program really required I mean ethically to
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: keep along sports that have a minimal fan base and
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: don't have much much revenue. I actually did a commentary
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: a week ago where I suggested that East Tennessee State
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: should drop their tennis or their men's tennis program. Uh.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: They And the reason being is, uh, you know, this
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: was after Arkansas I had but I said, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: East Tennessee State has a tennis program and every single
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: player is from overseas.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Now is that really in.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: The university mission of a state university in Appalachia? I
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: don't necessarily think it is, And wouldn't the budget be
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: better spent on, you know, revenue sports? Trying to get
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: et issue back in the top twenty five where they
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: were thirty odd years.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Ago and such. Wouldn't that isn't that what their fans
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: really want? And I mean it was very controversial in
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: all this.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, there just isn't that much interested
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: in aims in gymnastics.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And at what point do we say, well, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: maybe I may I needed sense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Of us profit set the football team now makes down
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: to gymnastics.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Do they really deserve it? That's the question that I ask,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: and it's.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Why I think that, Yeah, in a period of time,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: I really don't know if we're going to have the
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: sixteen sports. The NCAA A lots and maybe gymnastics should
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: go its own way with private lessons and competitions, as
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: I said, comparing it to figure skating instead of being
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: a charity case for you know, major universities.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: I just think I just think there's going to be
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: issues and problems because it is a woman's sport. I'm
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: not saying I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: you're wrong. I'm just saying that's going to spark up
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: some controversy with that. You you are trying to take
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: down female sports and with all the title nine. I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: just saying that's a possibility out there.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you've seen that already. You know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: college many schools have gotten rid of their college baseball program,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: most famously Providence after they won the Big East title
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: years ago, and that was a team that had two
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: future Major leaguers on it, And you start thinking, how
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: many sports do this Providence had that really could draw
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: fan base And you know, but they have a softball
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: team with the last time I checked one person from
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Rhode Island on it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: It was a while back that I checked.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: But you know you mentioned this and again is it
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: you know you talk about the tunnel nine, but I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: remember Providence had seven male sports, ten female. Now you
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: know this is this seems to be favoring a lot
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of sports that nobody really cares about. And you're literally
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: trading a baseball program for a softball program that really
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: doesn't recruit anybody locally and is going to have a
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: minimal fan interest. Is this in the best interest of
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: an athletic program?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking, Well, what happened with with with
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Title nine and stuff? Given where, given where the revenue
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: streams are, it's becoming harder and hard to comply with
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Title nine. It's almost like Title nine is becoming a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: financial liability.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well the biggest money everybody, everybody could everybody could
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: crucify me for it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I really don't care. But Title nine is starting to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: become a financial liability.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: The biggest money loser in college athletics is women's basketball
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: because you know, with Title nine, for instance, if you
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: have a female team, you cannot have your men's basketball
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: team stay at the Hilton and your female team stay
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: at the Motel six.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: You've got to give.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Them the same kind of treatment in that regard, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: that takes a lot of money. And there just isn't
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: the fans support. The men's basketball team will have stink
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: five to ten thousand fans in the stands, the women's
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: will have five hundred to one thousand fans in the stands,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: and it just does not generate the money.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: This is but it becomes you know, as I say,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: I gave the example of that maybe a gymnastics. Gymnastics
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: is in I always think just sort of this charity case,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and I don't, like I said, is that healthy for
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: college athletics or for colleges to begin with, should we
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: have you know, the quarterback of the football team literally
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: making money so that a gymnast can have a college scholarship.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know where you know. That seems very altruistic
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: and charitable, but I don't know that he has to
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: say so in that or it's really fair?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Tony, go ahead, off the topic. Lots to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: get to. But I love the dialogue amongst all of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you talking about it. It opens up a lot of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: interesting questions about title nine. And well, I love your
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: comparison marking between Motels six and what was it the Hilton?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? I mean that that's loaded, but it's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it's but it's good market. It's a good one.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: You have to you cannot do that even if they're
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: only selling making so much money. That's part of title
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: to im he could put them both at the Motel.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: Six does keep the light on for you?
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well Motel sick should be paying all of this
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: money for giving them free advertising. So there you go.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: All right, So go ahead, Tony, great stuff. Will we'll
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: send you the dandy, will send you the Motel six revenues.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Who's pay talent? You have account.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I used to anyway, But well, yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: One in Motel six cuts a check go ahead to me.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys pretty much touched on everything.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I do think that some point the negotiation of the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: money will trickle down to these smaller programs because they
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: still want to be a part of the sports world.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: They still want to do that thing. NCAA wise, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: do wonder what was the reason for this one event,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: because they still had to go through the whole season.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So was it like more injuries than you are they
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: already just thinning. It's more injuries than usual because one
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: event and they I'm pretty sure they do at least
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: fifteen throughout the season. So I wonder what goes on
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: with that. But they'll they'll figure it out. I'm pretty
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: sure there is a rich booster somewhere that that loves
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: gymnastics and they'll get the money together. I think this
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: might have just been probably injuries, because it doesn't seem
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like that's something that happens all the time.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Well, all I got to say is they might see
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a reference from not enough athletes. It certainly is going
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to rise my attention. That's why we gave up the
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: attention that we gave it to the night or Marki's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: neck the woods. I'm not doing anywhere my towns or
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: party shots to lest people have them. But we're going
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to talk. But with Marquee and Cliff especially, I know
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: where their towns are, so we can help them out.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: With anybody else, party shops will make up for the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: other stuff of According to Ken Rosenthal, had a message
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: about Bob Nutting that attention to Bob Nutting, whether or
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: not you keep general manager Ben Sherrington, your team might
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: not be that far away from content, assuming you're interested
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in such a thing. Ken Rosenthal via The Athletic. All right, Marky,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you take the lead on that it's the pirates of
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: your team. Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: There is probably no one more criticized in western Pennsylvania
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: than Bob Nutting. He has the reputation of being cheap,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: not just where he manages the Pirates, but the way
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: he manages this newspapers. And I know that because I
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: was once, say, pretty fairly high ranking sports writer at
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: arguably the flagship's newspaper of the Nutting chain, the Wheeling Intelligencer.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: But if you look even at the websites of nutting papers,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: and you know they are kind of Spartan and they
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: don't keep archives.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: And things like that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, they've always done things on and I don't
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: even want to get to what he paid me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: All right, let's just not even go there.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: But I mean, the Nuttings do have that reputation, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I fire a general manager. I mean, you know, the
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Bucks have a winning record right now, and that's not
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: every year they do, or at least they did the
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: last time I checked, and they I just got swept
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: by the Phillies. So forgive me. I don't know their
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: one lost record. Off the top of my head. It
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: seems like everybody in the National League has a winning record.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Everyone in the American is a losing one the way
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: it stands right now. But the situation, you know, is
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that the move I know fans what I read on
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: social media, they're getting angry at management. You know, they
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: were thinking, Hey, this could be our year in Pittsburgh
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: and we're not going to have that many of them.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: It's like most of them are focused in on Don Kelly,
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: who's rather popular. Managery is a local product and all that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: But yeah, sometimes if you if this is your window
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: of opportunity, I fire the skipper.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Sometimes that's the thing. Uh but yeah, uh.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the situation is yeah, it's like the Nuttings come
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: off like the Judge and the natural I mean, I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: don't know what else to tell you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Well, if you know, Eric probably will go ahead. Eric.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, good, good, good reference Markye, I know that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: movie quite well. Yeah, all right, I'm criticizing Bob Nutting.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: What else is new? The guy's basically the guy's become
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: more more criticized. The guy over the years has been
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: more criticized than the President of the United States. But
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: here here's the thing. Like, Bob Nutting's always been cheap.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: The guy has been reluctant to go after in free agency.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He you know, had he you know, during that twenty
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: thirteen to like I believe twenty fifteen window whatever whenever,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: that was when they when the Pirates, when when the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Pirates made it back to the postseason for the for
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the first time since since since I've been born. You
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: know that they could have extended it longer and didn't.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But you know the thing about it is, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: being it's just, you know, Bob Nutting has always been cheap.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He doesn't spend considered the articles I've read about him.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: He considering the art. I'm just going to go buy
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what the media has told me. And you know, are
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: they far away? You know, I don't know if they're
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: about a five hundred. They're playing there about five hundred
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: now after being swept by the Phillies, which still that's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it's probably a lot better than people expected him to be.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, the only reason Bob Nutting spent money
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: in the off season is because because of the impending
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: because of the impending possible strike. Though the sport may happen,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: who are the Players Association is going to have no
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: problem putting Bob Nutting up to the wall and throwing
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: tomatoes at him. But they, but they but yeah, that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: why he did it. He didn't do it because he
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: wanted to. He did it because he had to. Otherwise
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the Players Association is going to file a grievance and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: there go and and oh boy, oh black, promise you,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the Players Association, you're going to have a field day
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: on him. But you know, it's just that's just the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: way he's been. It's like criticizing him is nothing new.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: The guy is the guys more. The guy's more tone
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: death than anybody I've I've ever I've ever even come across.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But you know, but again criticizing nothing, it's he's He's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: more criticized in the sport than the President of the
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: United States.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: I think I think that, you know, you say he's
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: immune to the criticism. Maybe it's maybe, but it's one
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: of those things I think, laughing all the way to
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: the bank. Uh, Like I said, I mean even if
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: you look at he owned seven springs, does he not?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I mean forgive me that, And I mean.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: You talked about he sold seven springs.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: He did sell seven forgive me, Okay, so I forgive me,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: but I mean just the entities that he owns uh
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: are known for being miserly.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I wrote for one of his papers.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I wrote for arguably his leading paper.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: And what the amazing thing was is that when you
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: own the Pirates and you own the Wheeling Intelligencer, you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: you'd kind of think that that newspaper wheel it would
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: be the go to stores for the Pirates. I mean
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: that you'd use that as you know, the flagship, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: especially the way media is right now. And I remember
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: they hired years ago report John Pirato and he lasted
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: about a year because they literally wouldn't give him anything
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: owned newspaper, you know, would not give him any you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: direction of what.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Was going on.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: And you know it's like, yeah, you know, this is
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: you know, it is a very interesting thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: How the Nuttings took over from the mcclatchy's, how they
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: bought that out almost twenty years ago and that was done.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: But like I said, they've they've made a lot of
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: money by saying saving a buck is as good as
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: earning buck. And uh, you know these people that are
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: like sick, I think they laugh all the way to
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: the bank, even if the Pirates finishing last every year.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, Tony, this is this is the Paul Skins effect.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: You finally have a piece, a centerpiece that you want
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: to build around, and now people are expecting you to
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: act different.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: And that's just crazy. He's not gonna do anything.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Different, Like you said, Eric, when they finally made the
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: playoffs for the first time in our lifetime, when you
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: can spend money to extend actual relevancy, you.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: Don't do it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: So don't expect anything to change now just because you
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: have Paul Skins and you're playing five hundred ball. Fifty
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: games into the season, right like that. Like you, if
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: you're expecting that we've been, they've been. I've heard this
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: phrase my whole life. You can't treat the old dog
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: new tricks. So if you're thinking Bob Nutt is gonna
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: learn new tricks, you're out of your mind, all right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: But it does show the greatness of someone like Paul
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Skiings and the dependen CV, I mean the dependent of
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: collected bargain agreement about to run out, because like you said, here,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: let me try and pretend that the last twenty years
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: never happened. For this year, less circle was going on
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: right now. Oh, but this is the Pirates. It's the
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: only This is the Pirates. I know it love So
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: it's funny to think that they're going to that people
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: expecting them to be different.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: It's really really strange.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: You know you mentioned, uh, you know the first time
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: made the playoffs in our lifetime, what about ten years
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: ago or so. I remember when the Bucks were a
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: glamour team. We are family, the lumber company, Stargeland Park.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: I mean that was a team that you know had
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the nation, I mean it cared about I'm not saying
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: they were the new York Yankees or Dallas Cowboys in popularity,
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: but they were you know, they were not and also
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: an afterthought, you know, they were you know, a primary thought.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: You get on national broadcasts that sort of thing.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: And with some some regularity.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Uh. And I mention all of that because right now
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: when you think of Paul Skeins, I mean, yours is
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know, white, this great gymnast about that, going back
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: to that, but also a sports illustrated model, My goodness,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: I mean this should be this is like a power couple,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: not unlike uh, you know, Taylor and Travis, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: this sort of thing, and yet doesn't really seem that
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: is that because and you just start thinking, why aren't
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: the fucks you know really trying to promote this and
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: all that? And yeah, you know, I mean this really
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: should be something bigger than it currently is.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Well, Bob Notting. Bob Nutting had players to build around
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: even early in his day. He had he had Jack Wilson,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: he had he had Jason Bay, he had Andrew McCutcheon,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he had.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: I think the first two you mentioned were under the
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: McClatchy ownership. I think Nutting took over in twenty eight.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: So but no, Cutchen and Alvarez, and I mean they've
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: made the playoffs three times.
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: Whether they do a young early Martay, Yeah, but no,
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: I mean there were You've got a point that about,
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: you know, could they have built around They did not
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: draft well under McClatchy at all.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: That's that's for certain.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: They did draft well in I believe it or not
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: when Nutting took over initially, when they drafted Neil Walker, McCutcheon,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Garrett Cole and Alvarez and Pedro Alvarez, although you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: kind of forgotten the day didn't leave the National League
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: at home runs. So anyway, my point is that there
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: was a time. Yeah, but that team just went away
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: very quickly, and it was like as soon as you
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: get our analytics people say, as soon as you're twenty eight,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: we don't want to spend money on you.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Is that the way to build a winner.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: The Pirates also decide thought that Chris part that they
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: thought they thought that they could extend the window by
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: training for Chris Parcher would cost them Tyler Glass now
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and more.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, interesting topic. Candy and I covered the Pirates
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: very spring training and that it was very upbeat and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: loose up there in Bradenton for sure, and I look
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: forward to working with the Pirates in the future. They
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: treated me really, really well. And at anytime you have
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to work with the organization, I'll get it
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: in that story. Next we go, oh, Katie, real quick,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: because I have one more topic. I want Marky to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: be a part of. Okay, that's what it's time allot
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that will allow. But you know the way we ended
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: up getting that credential, Katie, give him a real quick
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and we have who's left? Candy and Flipp will close
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: out this topic.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean to get the credential at first. This
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: is one that we didn't get approved and we had
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: to kind of backdoor approach. It wasn't this the one
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: way you had to call the stadium?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I went to a lot of different things
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: until I got to the guy because.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: We didn't have the name or the name or the
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: number of who to call and get in contact because
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: we want We didn't get approved and we didn't get denied,
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: and we were like, okay, is it going through? Is
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: it not going through? We have to drive across the
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: state if it's going to go through. So we need
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: to get up early. So we're trying to figure out
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: and find and basically it was a glitch in the
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: system that why we didn't And so we finally got
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: a hold of somebody. They told us who to call,
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: who to contact. We contacted them and they said, yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: You're approved.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: We don't know why it didn't go through. Come on over.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: So we did and we got.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of COMPLI okay, go ahead, So all right,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Ka talked about the Pirates real quick. I one more
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: thing beginning with marketing. Marketing is making great points all
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: over the map. Great stop mark appreciate you by the way,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you know market I am older than you, so I
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: just remember the Pirate Flory days. We are fin Yeah.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: One time the Bucks had the most division titles in
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: the National League. It was two division era, they had
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: the most division titles.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I got a bunch of wait, I got a bunch
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of topics set aside for mister Bilton about the Pirates.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to away, but this one was one
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to get out in front of because
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the Ken rose and bow. But no, I'm with him, Markey.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I accumulate certain things here and I always think about you,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: mister Bilson, don't worry about that, Okay, Candy, and then
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: clip and then we'll get one more topic.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: Scott will pass on this one since we are short
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: on time, so go.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Ahead, Cliff. Final word on the Pirates.
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: The Pirates, Well, the Pirates have been the Pirates for
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: a long time. I do remember the we are family.
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: I was very very young back then. But yeah, the Nuttings,
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: it's it's they They basically accepted the fact that we're
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: gonna be a small market team. He owned media, I
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: worked in media parties, market, He's been there, A couple
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: of us have all it's it's everyone thinks a little
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: glorious and stuff, but it's really not. It's a whole
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: lot of work. You're not gonna get paid a whole
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: lot during unless you get you're in for a very
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: long time. And that's the way they operate. Uh So
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: I'm not really surprised by this. It's it's there. You know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: everyone's talking about the new uh with the new possible lockout,
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: maybe that changes things. But Rosenthal has been uh on
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: them as as he should be, because I mean they're
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: major league uh major league team. They should at least
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: try to put a decent team and not just okay,
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: it's time to sell off and uh, we're gonna start
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: off all over again. Maybe we get in the playoffs,
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: maybe we don't. Doesn't really matter to us. So it's
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: I'm I'm not really so it's really sad that Pittsburgh
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: should be better and at least have a fighting chance,
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: especially with all this other money being thrown around by
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: other franchises out there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: All right, market, your final topic of the night is
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: our feature topic of the night, and that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Asking you're asking me to to tell you something or
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: a sneak preview or come up with a topic of
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: the night or do you have one for me here?
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Is that what you're asking You want.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Me to come out and tell you. Okay, well here
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: we go. I'm again I know that this is not
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: the New York Yankees of the Dallas Cowboys, the LA Lakers.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: But this weekend on my podcast, I'm going to do
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: a three part series of recording it, and I do
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: real quick. I mean it's a you know, minute long
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: commentaries and it's how the Southern Conference, which five years
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: ago was a top ten conference in college basketball and
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I thought was on the cusp of being a two
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: bid league has fallen behind even the Big South, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: last year they were number twenty three out of thirty
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: one conferences. And you know now they're just a shadow
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: of them ourselves. And I well, they're recruiting the players
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: they are bringing in and the players are losing, and
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: it just goes.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Down and down and down. So here's what I'd ask
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: if people want to know how college basketball leagues gain
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: prestige or lose them.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: I got a three parts here, very short, I mean,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: one minute commentary this weekend. And all that I ask
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: is that you would subscribe to my channel, which on YouTube,
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: let's say at Marquee Bilson the fourth m A R
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: K Y B I L L S O N. Or
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: you can do Markey Bilson TikTok. You go Bilson on
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Etsu on Instagram. You gonna do Bilson on Etsu at
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: substack where else am I rumbull? You know Marquee Bilson
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: right there. It'll all be there and you'll be able
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: to find it. And I think that, yeah, if you
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: want to know how a college basket well conference grows
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: and dies, I've got.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: We'll be covering that this weekend. I hope you'll check
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: it out. It do. Won't take but three minutes.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: All right? Well here, Marky, I got another toppit of
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that Memorial Day worthy okay, and I'm glad we have
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you on right now. Kaitlin Clark's name, Grand Marshall is
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred and tenth running of the Indianapolis five hundred
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Memorial Days here? Can you believe that?
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Seriously? Really? The one day weekend is here. My head
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: is in Europe, people, it is. I still haven't got
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: back from Europe. Fuck. The indian fever are big, yeah, Didianapolis.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So all right, Mark, what are your talks about Caitlin
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Clark and Grand Marshall at the Indianapolis five hundred Before
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: you say anything, I've been to a couple that's the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: bucket list of you need to go to. Uh and
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I really do like it, all right, Kaitlyn Clark and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Grand Marshall marquee, go ahead.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, it seems like the perfect person to
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: do that, doesn't it.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, you have the hometown here, I mean, basketball
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: so popular in Indiana along with IndyCar racing. I mean
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: who better to be the Grand Marshal? And you know, now,
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark her branding is hot and all that. You know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: who better to be the Grand Marshal. I think it's
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: great you go.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: How about that? I think you're right, great mind think
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: oh imit for felic great stuff. I'll tell you the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: one thing I get used to working with this guy
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: here is I enjoyed his experience and his age. I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm talking. I mean, Cliff here up here
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: with me too. I mean, but but you know anything
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: about you Bilson? When I when I connected with you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: out and was it Carolina when we first got together. Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it was great stuff, and that's why I love I'll
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: tell you what if there's anybody that could see my
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: outspoken guy that we're building an identity of the show,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: is there are no better than Markey Bilson. I know
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that I love having you on. Markey.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You had.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Show that's the Sports Exchange has never had. And that's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: why I enjoy coming up. And the one thing I'm
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: trying to do before marking bulls out of here is
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: that Okay, and I could train anybody, including this guy.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: He gets worried about all the topics of Marquie. Do
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: me a favor. I'm older than you. Listen to me.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Have fun going after what I'm saying with you tonight.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: You look like you're taking that advice. Don't get so
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: caught up in all the topics half of what you're
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about anyways. My goal is to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: take the Don Shulo approach and find out what I know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: your experience and what you're good at. And that's what
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Don Schula gets incorporated. And that's how I've incorporated you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: into this thing on Marky. You're having fun. And if
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have to lose my voice because you're taking
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: up a lot of the airtime, that suits me. Find
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: my brother, because I got news for I got plenty
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of voice to go around throughout a whole week. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: when I got a guy like Bilson who's saving my
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: vocal cords for another day, that's not the worst thing
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: in the world. Marking, you are absolutely the beest brother.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Will see you next Wednesday night at nine o'clock.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I value the co host as well, Thank you. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: value very much the co hosts as well.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Well. Thank you. You're a great Marking. Even Eric, you've
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: got getting along a little better. God, it's not so
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: bad you guys. I'll say one of these days if
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Eric ever wants to do us up to you. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: can only imagine if you two were ever on Eric
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and Tony's show but on Saturday morning. But we ain't
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: get a holding of that one. We enjoy yet, nine
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time on Wednesday, Market, great job, listen, Fri.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: You have a great loyal day weekend.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much and have a great second half.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks, I'll see you next Wednesday, Markey god
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: bluff buddy. Okay, Kandy, let's talk about Titlin Clark and
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: she the right individual to be the Grand Marshal.
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: Why not? She's been hot lately.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: A spokes person for the WNBA for women's sports. Why
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: not bring her into the Indie five hundred? She obviously
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: was she played for Indy, I mean Indiana Fever. She's
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: really recognized in in Indiana.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Who better?
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: Who's more Indiana? If you think about it, like is
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: there is there one Indiana paper that you can think
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: of that should be or Indianapolis Cold that you think
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: should be the spokesperson? The one person that comes to
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: mind is Caitlin Clerk. So I think she is the
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: right person.
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: Okay, clip Bob, Yeah, it's it's it's great. It makes
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: sense for her to go. I could do do think
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: of someone else that could do. Not think I don't
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: want her there, but Fernando Mendoza did just help them
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: when a uh, just just just I'm just saying, hey,
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: I'm happy she's she's she's there. She does deserve it. Absolutely.
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: I'm just giving you another possible name who you know
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: who who might have been considered. I know he's he's
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: probably in camp with the Raiders, so it might be
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: a little tough. But but that's the only other Indiana.
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: I lived in Indiana for one year. I did in
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: the for one year, and I did go to the
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: Indianapolis and go to the race. But I did go
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: for a tour the Indianapolis five hundred Track and Museum.
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: That was that was I was really young man. Uh
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: it's a good time. But yeah, absolutely, she's she's the
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: face of the w n b A. She's she's been
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: dealing with uh, you know, since she's been there, she's
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: really taken the league, really brought women's basketball into the forefront.
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: We're waiting for when the Olympics come around. I'm sure
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: she'll be on the women's team. So it's Yeah, it
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: just makes sense to to to put her there. I mean,
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: and the Grand Marshall, Okay, that's cool. He always has
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: always have to have one.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: So.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, totally. Who Who's luck said? You go ahead, Tony, Yeah, no,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that makes sense.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Like Candy said, she's probably the most famous person, especially
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: when it comes to basketball or sports in Indiana, since
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Larry Bird, maybe Reggie Miller, Sandwich in between that somewhere,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: but she's the biggest thing since lights Bread. She's brought
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a lot of eyes to sports, women's sports, Gatorade commercial,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: State Farm commercials, Expanity commercials, gonna have her own Nike shoe,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Nike commercials.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I'm probably missing two or three endorsements that she got
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: that's probably in the local scene in Indiana. And also
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: just announced today she has the second highest selling basketball jersey,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: right behind Steph Curry. She just passed Lebron James. So
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: it's Steph Curry, Caitlyn Clark, Lebron James, and jersey sales.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: So they'll let you know how popular she is. It
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: just makes sense to it. In the WNBA, it does
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: seem like a lot of hate towards Kitland Clark amongst
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: her p years and the people around her. This is
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: the kind of stuff that you guys need allow her
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: to be great. Guys allow her to be great. It
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: brings more eyes to the product as a whole. So yeah,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: it makes sense.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Number one, That's why you have Sophie Tunningham. There is
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the enforcer, Sophie Cunningham and me, the best thing that
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: could happen to Kaitlyn Clark because she's got somebody that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: has her back. I've always thought the best thing that
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: could happen and the athlete, especially as stars who's marquis
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: is having unenforcer to protect her. And Tophie Cunningham has
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: been phenomenal and building her own brand, and she's smart
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: enough to know the best player in the league, and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: she's Sophie's doing well. I've actually followed her on TikTok
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: a lot because I've just impressed how on one individual
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: to be a team player. And now Caitlyn can do
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: what she has to do and help grow that league significantly. Right,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So Tony, all right, go ahead.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Eric, Well, first off, I mean Kaitlyn Clark, I mean
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: she has made women's basketball, women's basketball scene, it's fair
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: share of athletes of athletes over the years, great players too,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: like the Candas Parkers and Lisa Leslie's and more. But
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark has popularized that sport. I mean she has.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: You could probably say she is women's basketball, and an
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: argument can be made there for she is women's sports.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: You can definitely make that argument. But you know the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: fact that, I mean, come on, it's the biggest of
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: it's probably Indiana's like largest sporting event of the year,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: which is Indianapolis five hundred, which I was fortunate enough
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: to take in the time trials, many taking the time
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Trials many years ago. Yeah, in two and seven. It
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: was fun. It was a it was a neat experience
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: in the museum and everything, and experience.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: In the track.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: But she but yeah, I mean, you have you have
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: to capitalize on that popularity because you know, she is
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: the most popular women's athlete in the world right now,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and she is, like she's doing incredible things out the court. Yes,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: she's going to have the people who don't like her.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan had plenty of those. You can just ask
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: ask the Dennis Rodmans and the Bill Ampiers and the
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas is about that and yes, they all need
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: every All the star athletes need their policemen. Michael Jordan
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: had had Charles Oakley in the beginning, now and and
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: now Caitlin Clark has Sophie Cunningham. I mean, all the
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: stars need their policemen unless you're unless you're Kobe Bryant.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: But that's a different person.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's funny, Michael Jordan, Isaiah Thomas coming out
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: of you a baseball day, Charles Oakley, are you going
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to ultimately become the basketball voice I need uh checking
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: after you will? But Tony's gonna help me find a
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: couple of basketball people right to pick up you? Right,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: my man?
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: God, I could take you to about the mid I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: could take you to about twenty twelve but one. But
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I've been so disconnected from basketball. I woke up one
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: morning after I woke up one morning, saw on the TV.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the Knicks are good again?
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great? So Eric, Tony, go ahead take over, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: that'll be one of your homework assignments is to find
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: me a couple of good basketball people. All right, my buddy,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: all right, go ahead. So you have the final word
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: on Caitlin.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: Well I kind of spoken on it. Hey, Okay, let
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: Caitlin flours hurt.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: My mom always says high ties raise all boats. The
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: higher to tidy is for her, the more everybody boats
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: can raise.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Okay, we got this one covered because
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. One of my favorite topics
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: is talking about exchange and that I'm going to get
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: into it on the NBA level, and they actually voted
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: add two expansion teams. That was like about Vegas and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Sandel are the favorite clips. I'll let you have the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: first word on this one. One of your talks about
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Vegas and Seattle becoming the two lead runners here.
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: Well, it makes complete sense. Let's Vegas is the biggest,
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: hottest sports down just got the got the ree Athletics
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: are going there, the biggest Golden Knights got put in
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: there and full of years back, and they're doing incredibly well. Heck,
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: I was just in Vegas last month and uh it's
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: they've alreadys been seeing some things. They're thinking of making
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: the arena right across the street from Mandalay Day, which
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: is basically going to be right by the right next
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: to the baseball stadium. You know, it's I just thought
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: they'd go right with the biggest Golden Knights, and that's all.
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: All this stuff is right real close to each other,
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: and that sports think it's within everything's basically within walking
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: distance of each other. There, so the right by the
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: MGM grand and all that, and uh yeah, so it's
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: I guess. So I still don't understand Sacramento. I still
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: don't understand Memphis. I still yeah, I know Seattle moved
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: to Oklahoma City, and I still don't understand Oklahoma City
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: as a market. And they have two l A teams,
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: but do they really They have two l A teams,
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: but there's only one l A team that does anything
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: even though they're in the same arena. So if if,
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: if the NBA wants to expand and they think they
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: have enough popularity with those markets, yeah go about it
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: and make some more money. But yeah, it's about Vegas
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: and Seattle are just no brainers, you know. I Seeattle
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: should have never lost their team to begin with. I
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: look forward to the SuperSonics back back in the day too,
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: and uh, it'll be good to see uh a Las
• 57:30
  Speaker 8: Vegas basketball team. I thought that was gonna be the first.
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: Uh personally that was gonna be the first team that
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: did break the whole Las Vegas UH entry for professional sports.
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: But yeah, just makes sense.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well what you said, you hit a bull's eye.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I want to see the Seattle super Sonics bad in
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the worst way. Should have never left. They had a
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Cloudian situation they finally got to work out. Sandle is
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a no brainer. Cler you already spoke about Vegas with
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the hotport. Why not add one to it. Go ahead, Tony,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: there's something one of that. No, no, no, go ahead,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: And Tony, I.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: Don't like the idea.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I do not like the idea of expansion. You had
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: ten teams actively tanking this year. You had a third
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: of the NBA teams playing terribly for draft picks. And
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: I know this was a deep draft, but that just
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: shows the mentality of the teams in the league. After
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: let's say the first of March. It gets hard to
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: watch basketball between March and the playoffs because teams aren't
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: trying to win and they're focused on position in themselves
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: for the draft. I know they're talking about changing that,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: but I think until you get a competition issue fixed,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: you don't need to add more bad teams to the mix.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Not trying to rhyme with that, but you have you
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: add two more expansion teams, that means two more bad
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: teams in the pool. And I don't like the idea
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: of that. I do feel like relocation might be best.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like a team like Memphis or New Orleans
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: moving to Vegas would be a good thing. I feel
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: like a team like Sacramento moving up to Seattle will
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: be a good thing. I think I feel like that
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: would be a better fix for those markets than just
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: putting an expansion team in there and water down and
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: diluting the product of the NBA.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't like it. I just don't think basketball
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: is as popular as it used to be, you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: between load management, which which I think is just absolutely wrong,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: where somehow the league expects to pay star player prices
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: to not be guaranteed to see the star where I
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: show up to the arena and they have their B
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: team out there. I think that, you know, I think
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: most most of the league is not even trying anymore.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're they're openly tanking. It's practically, no,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: it's practically I know it's known by the fans nowadays,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: which ultimately dilutes the product the ratings of kind of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the ratings have kind of dropped there. So why is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the NBA talking about expanding when they they don't even
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: have their current product under control? You know, I think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: if they're looking for someone looking for if they're looking
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: to add a team there, well why don't they convince
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: another team that maybe not drawing as well, like a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Memphis or New Orleans two to move to move there?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, if anything, you know, the league needs to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: get its product under control first and back to hopefully
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: what it was. Yeah, you know, hopefully we get it
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: back to what it was before they even think about
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: expansion because right now the NBA is one gigantic mess
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: with tanking and load management.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: Well, I think I think there's one important point though,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: what's the expansion fee? That's what it might come down to,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: But that's what it's probably gonna come down to. Oh,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: we get this big influx of cash, that's why. And
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: when you get that big inflex we oh we have
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: two new teams. Here's I don't know whatever billions of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: dollars into that. You don't think they're not going.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: To do that?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: Come on, I don't agree with it either I'm like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: I don't. I've been honest. I don't really care about
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: NBA and basketball. I really don't. I don't care about
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: it at all.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: But real quick, cliff a quick, go go search because
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: it'll be between the seven to ten billion dollar.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: Range and there you go. That's the reason for it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Look, that's the reason I hope that expansion team tries.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: It's money.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: It's funny thing. One of the reason I'll deal with
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: the NBA must because of low management. Eric. I don't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: talk about a lot of basketball, unfortunately, I have no choice,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: but because there are a lot of headlines out there
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: that in our industry, you can't pick and choose the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: sports you can and I don't. But every now and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: then the topic come along. You just simply can't ignore
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: that journalism. Okay, click, you ought to know that.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah, journal we have.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: To do it.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: But I will say about Seattle. I will say about
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Seattle though, the reason they lost their team was because
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: the ownership group that bought the team from Howard schultzletely
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: lied to them. Right, I'm not moving the team. That's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: why that happened. Because Howard Schultz was lied to. I'll
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: never blame Howard Schultz for.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: That, right, No, you're a hunter. You're right, And he
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: had his attention of moving into Oklahoma City. But the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: thing that he had an advantage to Oklahoma City was
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: that Hurricane Katrina rock New Orleans and New Orleans needed
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a place to play, and they went to Oklahoma City.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: The NBA was convinced that if you're going to make
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a move, make it there and then we'll figure it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: out later. So Hurricane Katrina played a little role in
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: this thing too, because we found out that Oklahoma City
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: being a one major league team town and worked out
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: in that case. But Hurricane Katrina is part of the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: reason why you have the Oklahoma City do have a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: big part of the reason the cliff. You know, you
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: let's not kill ourselves. I see you all over the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: darn plate on social media talking about one bank to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: bank two expanded top Bank. That's why I dragged your
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: butt into the top.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah that's fine. I mean, I kick, I think they
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: should contract, but if they're they're not going to contract.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: And like Tony said, that relocate because I still think
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: they're silly. These are silly markets. I mean, it's I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: just don't get Sacramento. Why do they have a team
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 8: in Sacramento. I don't understand it. Nobody else has a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: team and say, I know the Athletics are playing there,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: but they're only playing there.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Not a way or on that one. Hold on, I'm
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: going to ask you to back up on that, and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Clip number one. I've seen a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: couple of games in Sacramento, and when you have a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: good competitive squad there, they sell out everything competitive. I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: didn't say it championship.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody, I listen.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I can speak from experience on this cliff.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Ninety nine out of one hundred points you're gonna make,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna agree with them on this might be
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the one rare exception. My friend mister O'Neill that Sacramento
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: is not a bad basketball town professionally because they're the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: only game in town. Pal they are.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: I don't don't care. There's no oh in my last name,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: and uh yeah, the Sacramento Wait, they're minor league. They're
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: minor league. I don't care. Oh yeah, Okay, it's the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: only thing in town. It's that they haven't won a championship.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: They usually stink. Occasionally, they're good The NBA has always
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: been weird with with who they put where they give
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 8: where they give where they give markets out to anyway
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: with Memphis and Orlando and hey, sorry, sorry, I know
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: that's your team, but come on, they don't have any
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: You don't you don't have any other professional sports teams
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: there other than minor league. You don't know that. And
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: I know you want your Hey, I know, no offense
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: to to you or the sport for your thing, but
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 8: I'm just trying to make a point here. The NBA
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 8: is weird when because they do have these other markets,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: nobody else goes to Portland, the Portland Triple Portland, Oregon.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: But okay, they have they have a team too, like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: nobody else said they don't. I know they're talking about
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: other teams and they're always brought up. But the NBA
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 8: is weird like that. They've always they've always been a
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: little bit weird like that. They've you know, it's it's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: always been a little strange.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: You can think you can thank Clyde, you can thank
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Clyde Drexler for popularizing the port the Portland Trailblazers.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: Let me, that's a good question, will still be there.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: But they've still been there.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: If he was never there, well, I think Bill, I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: think Bill Walton would have Bill Walton would have helped
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: the cause a little bit.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: But it was, I mean, he was. It's that he
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: had so many injuries.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: And regarding the Kings, though some people will will some
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: people think that Tim donnay he screwed the Kings out
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: of a ring.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: A question.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Did I have a senior moment where I called you
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Cliff O'Neill.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 8: You gave me an O'Neill there, So yeah, for a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: second there just my name wrong because they have the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: two l's.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: No, that's wrong with you. Well, hold on, Eric, I
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: mean I'm sorry, We'll go ahead. Eric gets your thought
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: off because I.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Know what I was going to say.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: To your point, Cliff, NBA expansion is weird because they
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: seemingly hand out franchises like the like their candy to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: random places, random billionaires.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: There you go, and it comes down to money, like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: you get seven to billions. Oh, here's seven to ten
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: billion dollars. Okay, yeah, we'll.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: And Orlando just happened to luck into Penny Hardaway and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: shack back back.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, So all right, Cliff, So i had
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: my senior moment where he called you Cliff O'Neil. Well
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it sub not related to Paul o'meil. Then you have
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a pay check with the Yankees, Eric, Yeah, that's what
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just hitting around so we can have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit of loose camaraderie on this show, which
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: is why the sports has change is wide open. It's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: nothing like what Candy doesn't fire off with that group
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: that you've got out there. But I have a pretty
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: interesting group, Carol One, just take character, all right, Cliff Neil,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: my expansion expert is what I think? Are you dead?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: But I all like getting Cliff involved with some of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: these conversations. Something said that you see a real Cliff Meal.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Really go out there and just say ah, because now
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I get the Cliff Neil here that Toms was outspoken
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: on Facebook, and that's really good stuff. That's one of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the reasons I when I brought Cliff in the here
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: in the first place was because he was big on
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: hockey expansion. We used to get in some animated con
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: conversations on Facebook. Don't bring you on hockey turned out
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to work out. Now he's got to throw you on
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: a spot. Wednesday Night or on the sports case. So
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: who hasn't spoken on this topic?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: Technically I haven't.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Well, good, now, technically you have go ahead.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: The NBA is the National Drama League. Let's face it.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: There's one Oh that was from me, but that's okay.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: They're the one sport that has gotten the most talked
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: about load management and how when you purchase a ticket
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: to go to a game, you expect to see the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: stars for both teams that are playing, and yet there
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: are a lot of times that don't whether we are
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: coming up with an injury or they need this time
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: off or that time off. To say now that we're
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: going to expand and do more, I mean, I get it,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: we forget we're talking about.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: It as if it's a sport, but it's not a sport.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: It's a business and they want to make and that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: the business is to make money, and they want to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: expand their realm, just like the NFL. Look at how
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: the NFL has expanded, They've gone into different markets. NBA
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: wants to do the same thing. Now are they doing
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: it the the smartest way?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I'm that I'm not convinced of, but.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: I understand them wanting to expand their horizons make more
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: money because at the end of the day, it is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: a business.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, Let's talk a little bit of baseball, okay, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna have a bit And I've been waiting
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: for this one all day long here. But anytime you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: have a next topic, I know Eric gets involved there.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I know we know how to get into his head.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: A little cliff, you're gonna I cannot rattle, cliff. I
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: mean he plays.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: You guys are develop you, guys are developing an identity
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: on the show. That's as well. I like many different
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: people together because I'll still never forget what Eric kid
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: was Mark Mansini many years ago, how he lit him
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: up quick, and that's when I knew his confrontational side was.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That's something I needed to have on here. Don't worry
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: telling you. I don't know what you would Eric had
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: gone up to this particular point.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: But I know he was.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I think I sent Manini into retirement.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Bob Radio really did it to him. But now he's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: got TikTok. I don't know what he does anymore. Well,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: that's what side the point. But you caught my attention
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: with that. For all that you have with him anyways,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: with that said, we're going to talk about Carl's Beltran
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: and Matt planning on actually retiring Carls beltrant number fifteen
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, September nineteenth, when they faced the Philadelphia Philly Okay,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Eric here talks about the retirement of Carl's Beltran.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: It's weird. I mean, it's kind of weird because never
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: this is the guy that they were. They they had,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: they initially made his manager, but then when it came
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to what he allegedly did during during sign stealing, they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you know, with his involvement there, they had to. They
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: had they had to not I mean, yes, he was
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: a multi time All Star there, but you know, but
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: he wasn't. But the Mets aside from aside from two
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: thousand and six, not a whole lot going for him there,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: aside from that miracle and NLCS run where they came
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: where they came within a I believe a Jim Jim
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Edmonds home run away from going to going to the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: World Series.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: But it's it.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: He was good, like he very He kind of had
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: a window of time there where he was good, but
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: he got her a lot there. I just think it's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: just kind of weird. Given the relationship there that they
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: would retire his number. I think the Mets, you know,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: he was a good player, but I wouldn't say he's
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: like you know, I wouldn't even call I wouldn't even
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: say he's like a notable met aside from the All
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Star Games, he went to.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: Totally Eric, this is what happened when your team doesn't
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: have good history. All right, just gotta celebrate, you just
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: gotta you gotta find people to celebrate, you know. It's it's.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: It's the mess meant that. Man, they gotta try. They
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: just got to keep up with the numbers in Monument Park.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I guess you know, they try and follow us anyway possible.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: I don't get it. I really don't.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: As But and like you said, the relationship too, it
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: seemed like they were kind of trying to stay away
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: from them, you know, because of the science stealing and stuff.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: But hey, maybe maybe they just had to save face
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: in the public, you know. But now that all that's over,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: it seemed like a lot. You don't hear the conversation
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: about it anymore. And he was more of a smaller
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: piece in it. I guess they'll look at it.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: So now they are.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: So now so I mean no real, no real thoughts
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: about it other than the mess with their lack of
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: history of great players is what.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: You get, Okay, I put the left all right.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he wasn't my favorite Met, you know, I still
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: always remember watching Strike three and the Championship Series. He
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: was a good player as a solid player. I appreciate
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: the good he did for us. Yeah, I got a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: couple of old star appearances. I don't think these numbers
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: should be retired. Are we are we gonna do? Are
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: we gonna do the the the the the the local thing?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: Okay, so I'm gonna bring up my thing later. It's
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: about another number, uh there. But yeah, the Mets have
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: never been until very recently. Once once Cohen took over,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: that's when we really started seeing numbers get retired. You know,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: for the longest time, people would get upset because people
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: would hint hand over seventeen and that's Keith Hernandez. A
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: couple of people were sixteen, you know, like Daryl I
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: think Daryl Hamilton were eighteen, you know for them that
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: so they were they were never really big on on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: doing that. Once they're the will Ponds. And then Steve Cohen.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: And then that's because a lot he knew, because he
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: knew a lot of people wanted like these eighty six
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: Mets numbers to be retired. And you're right, we don't
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: have a huge, great history with it. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not for it. They're just trying to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: latch onto because he got you know, he's being put
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: into the Hall of Fame. He's stall of trying to
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: capture that, that whole that whole thing too. That's why
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: they're doing it, you know. And it's I'm not really
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: that that that surprise. I'm not I'm not a I'm
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: not a fan of them retire his number. I don't
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: think he deserves to have his number retired. Uh, there's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 8: another one here, ch I'll talk about later on in
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: the show.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you know how you talk about the Hall of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: think because a lot of times people will retire players
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: number once they hit the Hall of Fame. And I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: think you make the next one point there and you
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: have last last word on the topic. I'll talk a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of Sam Guard and then Candy's going to
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: do a station break after her after she talks about
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: this topic. By Candy with.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: Three hundred and twelve career steals in three hundred and
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: sixty one attempts. Beltrand has the highest stolen base percentage
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: eighty six point four of any major league player with
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: three hundred or more career attempts. And he became the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: fifth player to hit four hundred home runs and steal
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: three hundred bases.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: One of the other things that I was noticing when
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: I was doing some research on him. He holds the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: single season record holder for runs scored at one hundred
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: and twenty seven. He holds the single season record for
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: home runs forty one by a switch hitter with Todd Hundley.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: He's tied single postseason records for home runs. Now, that
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: was one thing I was when I was researching him,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: how much what his batting average was in the postseason.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: He's an outstanding player in the postseason, batting preoh seven
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: with sixteen home runs in sixty five games and hitting
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: four hundred in four different series. He scored twenty one
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: runs in twelve games during the two thousand and four playoffs. Now,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: I get that wasn't when he was with the Mets,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: but so he Yes, he might not be the most
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: flashy year. But I can understand if he holds some
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: of the records for them to retire his number, especially
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: since he's going into the Hall of Fame a lot
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: of times. Yes, which if you get into the Hall
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: of Fame, then the teams are like, oh, well, maybe
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: we should have put him in ours as well.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: So that was my points.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, I'm sorry, just real quick. Isn't he goinda
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: wear a hat on his plack? I think he might
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: be wearing a metcap on his black That might have
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: something to do with it too.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: Personally, I thought it'd be. Personally, I thought it'd be
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: blank because he was Also, he also did really well
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: for the Royals.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did do really well for the Royals.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: But I know they don't do the same thing they
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: used to do, where you know, they like just let
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: them choose it and then Dave Winfield's like, oh, they
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: paid me money, so I'll wear the padres.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Well, he also did it. Dave Winfield did it because
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: he wanted to. He wanted to proverbally give the bird
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: to George Steinberger at the time.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it. I mean, there's a who whole lot
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: of things. Plus he get some cash out of the deal.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's hurt, all right, Candy, do you have
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  Speaker 2: As they can. I got I got your I got
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: your answer, Cliff, Yeah, he's wearing a he's wearing a Mets.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: He decided to go with a Mets hap His reasoning
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: was because he had greatest SETI experience's greatest individual growth
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  Speaker 2: and success, and the Royals are disappointed in it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: Okay, so yeah, there there you go. Well, I mean,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: so that's probably a lot.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: To do with it too. All right, let's talk about football.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Sam Donald. I'll tell you why
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Sam Donald because Sam Donald ran
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: the incentive table on his way to the Super Bowl
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: to get four million bucks. Not too bad. But here's
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: how it actually worked out for him. Five hundred thousand
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: dollars for four thousand plus yard, five hundred k for
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: sixty seven point five percent completion rate, excuse me, five
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: hundred k for a top ten offense, five hundred k
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: for a playoff for five hundred k for a divisional round,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: five hundred k were conference championship win, and one million
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl win. Four million bucks now the pad.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Tam Darnald had a pretty nice year out in Seattle.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Eric he did. He was a big part of that wind.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: He kind of he kind of founded again with Minneso.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: He kind of found his found his stride in Minnesota,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: and then he carried that over to Seattle and was
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: able to help him win a help him win a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, so you know, got gotta give it.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: The hats off to him considering his his career started
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: at the rock bottom and now he's now he's now
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: he's on top, just like the Drake song.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Very okay, Tony uh hey man, that's why those incentives, man,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: The incentives worked for both parties, right. The incentives make
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: you play better, so because you want to make that
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: money and them playing better normally makes the team better.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: And that makes the ownership happy. But Sam Darnold is
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: a great.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: A great example him, Baker Mayfield, maybe even justin fields.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: We'll see how this works him backing up in Kansas City.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: Matt Jones, Man, you can't give up on these young quarterbacks.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: I feel like nowadays in sports, we want these players
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: to be so good, so young, and then you realize, hey,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: this guy's only twenty six, like hes still have plenty
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: of time to be a good guy in this league.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: And Sam Donald showed that he got with the quarterback
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: whisper Kevin O'Connell, which may help Kyler.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Murray this year.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: That got him ready in Minnesota and now he's in Seattle,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: a super Bowl champion and in the history books. You
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: can't tell the story of the NFL without Sam Donald
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: now as a quarterback.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Great points, Sony all the way around, more football topics.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: You like you're a virtual or anybody I've ever seen
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: on this network. Great stop. Okay, Candy.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: I think incentive contracts, as much as maybe the players
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 7: don't want them, I love them because I think it's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: a win win here.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: You go out, you.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: Perform to your best, and you have success, and the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: team rewards you. And they should because with your success,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 7: the team has successful. The one other thing we've talked
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: about Sam Donald. Yes he made all those contract bonuses.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 7: He also paid to play in the Super Bowl, but
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: we've talked about that before.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, and Cliff.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's good to see him turn it around.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: I mean it's but I think with the last few
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: years where we've had these uh these uh, these teams
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 8: just throwing the rookie, throwing the rookie, throwing the rookie.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 8: You know, even my homes, My Homes played behind the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: Alex Smith, all right, he had a bit of time
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: to play behind Alex Smith to learn and then and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 8: then it's okay, get in their kid and and then
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 8: that worked out for them. Sam Darnold's uh, yeah, well
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: you got drapped by the Jets. That's just that's that's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 8: never a good thing. There's so many problems with that.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: And yeah, that and he went to a couple of
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 8: other teams and he did find his uh the right
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: thing in Minnesota. I think it helped that justin Jefferson
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 8: was playing there, that might have helped a little bit,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: and and some other good players there, which always helps them.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: That just kind of gave up on him because J J. McCarthy, Oh,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: well now they're bringing in they're bringing in a Kylo
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 8: so uh uh yeah, so it's yeah, good for him.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: And yeah, though those those incentive lating deals and you
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: kind of had to know that they were going to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 8: do that because they they were hoping he'd be able
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 8: to do what he did in Minnesota, but they didn't
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 8: have any real guarantee of that, so they had to like,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 8: all right, let's throw some stuff in here and give
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 8: him some some things to shoot for. If we get it,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 8: then yeah, we'll give him the money, but we don't
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 8: have to like throw a huge uh uh bucket of
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: cash on him and then if it doesn't work, out,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 8: we're you know, ohrap, you know we were. We spent
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: all his money, so that that was that was definitely
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: a better path putting those in sentives there.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's certainly earned every dime of it, and I'm
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: sure security and fail forever, he'll be revered. Or let's
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: go on to Paul Goldsman, who returned to the Yankees
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: on one ear the old value for million with an
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: additional two million potential. Well, this is how do you
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: like to move?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Eric?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: I love it. I mean he's been he's he's been
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: good for the role that they needed him, and they
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: don't need him to be the m v P. Goldsmith anymore.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: They just kind of need him to fill a certain role,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: which he's he can do a certain thing well, which
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: is he can play defense and also mash the lefties.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Everybody needs a lafty mess, a lefty masher, and he's
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: proven he can do that. Plus he's he's well liked
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: in the clubhouse. And a guy like Ben Rice, who's
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: I think becoming the first baseman for the Yankees, the
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: first home grown first baseman there since Mattingly, I think
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's benefited. So but yeah, I've got no
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: problem with the move he does. He's there for a
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: certain purpose, which is the mentor young guys, mash a
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: lefty and play defense totally.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: Uh is not is not as much fun with me
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: and Eric agree, I got everything, Eric see.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: And you know what, I kind of questioned it in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the year because I learned to question
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: almost everything Aaron Boone does. That's just my natural reaction.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: But Ben Rice showed and he struggles against left handed pitching.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: And Paul Goldsmith has hit a laid off all run
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: in three of his six his first six stars, so
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: it makes sense.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: He's a professional in the in the clubhouse to mentor
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: somebody like Ben Rice. So he is what you call
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: a star in his role.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: And I love it. Cool.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: Well, it's it's it's not surprising. He doesn't have to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 8: be the Paul Goldschmid of old. He can't play that
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 8: that that veteran mentors role there, Judge is there. Ben
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 8: Rice is becoming Ben Rice and they're yeah, they're going
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 8: back and forth. They're having their own little Mini Maguire
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 8: Sosa uh thing, just on the same team. Now, let's see,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 8: or I should go Maris Mantle if you want to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: go real old school there. So, yeah, that was that
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: was a good uh pick up for them, And they
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 8: didn't have to give him too much money and he
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: doesn't have to have the he doesn't have the pressure
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: of being the big star. He's just in that role
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: and he's he can still play, he can still hit
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: and if he doesn't have the go now that where
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: it's like, oh, I have to play every game? Why
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 8: would he want to play every game? Yeah, you know,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 8: it's so it's it's the perfect setup for him. That
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 8: was a perfect place for him.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: It's like, and he's probably gonna be a good reason
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: why they make the playoffs and have a good run.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 7: On December thirtieth of twenty twenty four, he signed a
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: one year, twelve point five million dollar contract. In twenty
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: twenty five, he appeared in one hundred and forty six games,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: batted two seventy four with ten home runs, forty five rubies,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 7: and five stolen bases in five hundred and thirty four
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: played appearances. Then, in February of twenty twenty six, he
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: the Yankees re signed him to a four million dollar contract.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: How many of us would would go for a one year,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: four million dollar contract, Sign me up.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean, even in New York
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: with those high behind tact is, I'll take.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: It up until this point in his career that he's fine.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's not like I'm sure he didn't spend
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: all that money.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, any and you know, at these age, you just
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: want to probably play for a contender, right, you don't
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: want to go out there losing a lot.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's won an MVP or been to multiple
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: All Star Games, won multiple he has, and then you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: know he's he's had all. He's had a borderline Hall
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: of Fame career. You know, what more do you need?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: You know, at this point, he's just playing because he
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: wants to. Uh he he because he likes it. Actually,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: I heard that he could have gone other places where
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: he would have had He wouldn't have been an everyday player,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: but he would have he would have had more playing
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: time than he's getting now. But he didn't want to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: do it because he really liked playing in New York.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they like handed him. So everybody talk about this. Yes, Okay,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: let's continue on. Let's break down the Brewers Redsant trade
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: that occurred. And Boston received third base and Caleb Urban, Shorts,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Uf Andrew monaster Monasterio. Okay, Anthony sister, I believe, okay,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I showed you my pamanship is great. A top P pick.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee ended up getting Cal Harrison, David Hamilton, Shane Rohan, Eric,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: why don't you break down the trade?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Well, Caleb Durbin was a well with with the Brewer.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: With the Brewers, Caleb Durbin was a rookie the year
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: runner up finished in I think I think that was
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: due part two rookie, the rookie class being week last year,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: because any other year, I don't think he I don't
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: think he cracks it. And then Andrew Monasterio had been
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: a solid utility player for him, Like you need a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: quick hit, he'd be able to he'd be able to
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: get it for you.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: And he you know.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: And then Anthony Seigler, you know, there was just no
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: room for him. He was like a catcher third baseman.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: There was there was no spot for him. And the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Brewers got back Kyle Harrison, who was a top was
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: a top prospect of the of the San Francisco Giants.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: I believe he's the top one hundred prospect as well,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: and he just didn't pan out. He just didn't pan
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: out in San Francisco. He went to Boston as part
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: of the Raphael Devers trade. And and then also Shane
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Drawing had been a minor a promising minor leaguer. He'd
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: been like a minor league pitcher in the Red Sox organization.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, David Hamilton had been like kind of
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: a he was a Brewer at one point, but he
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: had been with the Red Sox, had been kind of
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: the had been like a utility infielder ish and but
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: he but he's also fast, so and the Brewers tend
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: to play the speed game, and they also and then
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: the Shane Drew and yeah, that's pretty much the trade
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: so far. Right now, the Brewers are winning that trade.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Kyle Kyle Harrison. Kyle Harrison today against the Cubs, he struck,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: he struck out eleven at Wrigley Field, no less, not
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: an easy not an easy place to not an easy
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: place to play, and he struck. He struck out eleven
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: wal one and is R right now is a Bucks
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: seventy seven. You know, he he's having one heck of
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: a year. I mean, that just shows you how great
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: the Brewers are at getting the most out of pitchers.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: It seems like no matter who they touched, they somehow
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: get at the very least a serviceable arm out of
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: the deal. But you know, Kyle Harrison's found his kind
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: of found his footing there. I wrote about this earlier
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: in the year, Scot that how he had a chance
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: to crack the rotation because he's got quite a bit
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: of control left on the on that deal. And you know,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: at first I didn't think the trade made sense because
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the Burrows essentially traded their third base death.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Plus Kale Durbin had a pretty good year if you
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: look at the numbers for a rookie. And you know,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: but right now he's one of the worst players in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: baseball at the moment. He's only batt in a buck
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: sixty nine and his ops IS is only four ninety four.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: And given how the given the Red Sox current pitching woes,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I bet you they could they were probably they could
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: probably use Kyle Harrison right about now.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Great point. So love the way you broke on that trade.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Why do you think I let off of the attendance
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: because you give me exactly if you delivered Cassie, right stuff. Okay, Tony,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: you know I'm.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 6: Gonna start looking at uh, what's the name, what's the
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Brewers GM name?
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Matt Arnold.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna start looking at Matt Arnold. How I look
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: at Danny Ainge in basketball? Do not trade with him
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: because you're not going to get the better end of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: that trade. Okay, Like it's it's I don't know how
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: you guys do it, and when I when I when
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: it happened during the off season. Even though, like you said, Eric,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: it was a weak rookie class, he still finished top
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: three and in rookie other year, they're still saying something
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: in in in baseball, So I'm thinking, why would.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: You want to do that?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: But like you said, Eric, they're winning the trade as
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: of right now. Yeah, Durbin and slashing one sixty five,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: just just just playing terribly. I mean that might just
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: be he's infected with whatever is going on in Boston,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: but be there as I don't feel bad at all.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: He's playing terrible and you guys have and when I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: say you guys are mainly saying Candy, you too, Air
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: you cover.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: The guys may have an All Star picture as of
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: right now. Out of this. This is if you wanted
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: to clip this up this, you can do that. Candy.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: Beware trading with the Brewers. Okay, you will lose the trade.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: That That is it. That's that's all I'm to say
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: about that.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Don't forget that, nobody secret, don't forget. Don't forget Tony.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Don't forget Tony. Right next to Kyle Harrison, they got
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: another All Star picture up there too.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: To me is one hundred and four mile an hour fastball.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's the Pokemon.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Continued.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, and it's great too, because you wouldn't You wouldn't
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: think a guy as quirky as him throws one hundred
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: and four miles an hour. He's got this joyful explosion
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: of youthful enthusiasm when he's out on the field watching
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: that ball get out of his hands and smack that glove.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Well that's what you get with these two guys, Eric
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: and Tony. I'll be with him this Saturday of their lives.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: After that they are on their own. It's run of
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Brewer's topic. Miss Candy, go out there and continue with these.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: The duos started well.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 7: While Kyle Harrison was the big name that came back
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 7: to Milwaukee and Caleb Durban trade with the Red Sox.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: Shane Drohan may have an equal ceiling. In returning from
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: shoulder surgery last year, Drohan had a stellar year, and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 7: not only in results. While a two point two seven
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 7: e er and a thirty five percent strikeout rate are
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: both certainly something to write home about, the stuff also
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: ticked up. His four seed basketball, added more carrie and
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 7: velocity improved, the cutter shape was better, and he turned
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 7: his slider into a wipeout swing and misoffering. He also
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: showcased solid field for his change up and a big
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: breaking curve that round out a complete five pitch mix
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: in which he's comfortable throwing each offering at any time.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: And he feels it's a good fit with him and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 7: the Brewers. And that's one thing I will say about
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of the guys that come
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: to the Brewers is that they feel it's a really
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 7: good atmosphere, really good team. I think they love playing
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 7: for Pat Murphy. Yeah, obviously he's you know, one manager
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 7: of the league last two years in a row that
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 7: says something too. So uh yeah, I definitely would say
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 7: the Brewers won this trade. And I would say when
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 7: it happened, a lot of Brewer fans were upset because
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: they thought Caleb Broom was gonna be it for the Brewers.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: But yes, somehow our dam seemed to make the a
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: good trade.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: At this point, at this point, and Matt Arnold, I trust.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have that major point nicely clear, okay. And
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that's good because obviously a lot of people
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: get comfort birds all day long. But they that's a
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: good baseball town. They'll put people in the stands as
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: what they do. Yeah that I've seen a lot of
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: caves over Miller Park and that's all I'm gonna call
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: it Miller Park.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: It's still called Miller Park away the street it's on.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: So you're okay, oh.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Good, thank you. I appreciate that, all right, Cliff, pick.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: It up up. Yeah, yeah, it's it's yeah. It feels
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: like you like you said everyone said on the when
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: it was first went down, it's like what are they doing?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: What are they doing?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 8: You can't really, you can't really go by the initial thing.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's the initial deal. It's you gotta wait
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: and see. These things are cann work out and everyone's
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: saying yeah, right, and maybe it's like, yeah, it's a
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 8: great place to play in Milwaukee. Maybe there's a less stress.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: I don't know because because of that, you know, it's
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 8: the smaller market and it's such great atmosphere and people
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: are happy to play there and as opposed to going
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 8: from Boston where it can be kind of toxic, and
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 8: you know it's and then the pressure of going up
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: to there. So there's something going to be said for that,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: you know, they they weren't thought, oh no, he's good
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: believing we're losing our future star here and not so much.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: And maybe once again, maybe it's Boston maybe one. Maybe
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 8: maybe he's the Boba Schett like with the Mets. He's
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 8: maybe this guy's like the Bobachett for for the Mets. Yeah,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: this guy's Uh, he goes someplace else, goes to a
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: small market team. After that, then he'll flourish again. That
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 8: might be. That might be the issue too, but we
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: have to wait and see.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, one more baseball transactions that I want to go
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: out there. You get to hey, how you doing, buddy?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: That I want to talk about is Curtain Colorado. The
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies actually go out there and sign a I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: told me Yoki Sugano to a one year, five point
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: one million contract. Sugana was a twelve year veteran of
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: EPON Professional Baseball when heated in one year gilt for
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: thirteen million with the Orioles last season. Again, I'm going
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: to go to Eric to break this one down. Everybody
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: else can follow suit.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Tomo Yuki Sugano was originally he was originally signed by
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: the by the Orioles from from Japan. He kind of was,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: you know, I was surprised they didn't bring him back because,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: to be truthful, Baltimore Michael Liason, Baltimore doesn't know how
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: to put together a pitching staff. And ironically enough, he
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: was a picture at Yale, which it comes to show
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: you that not everybody goes to an IVY League school
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: is smart. But they but they But yeah, he's kind of,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you know, he was kind of you know, he wasn't
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: really that great with Baltimore. He started off good and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: then he kind of fell off in the second half.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: And then in Colorado though he's somehow he somehow figured
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: it out, you know, as you know, he's somehow, you know,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: somehow having having some saw him out of success there.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: He's kind of given them. You know, he's kind. He's
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: a guy who's like in his mid thirties, so you're
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: not expecting a whole lot from him, but he's given
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: you Number four, number five started production so far this year.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like Aaron said, solid guy.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: I mean four point two era a thirteen million dollars
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: to pitch in Colorado, coming in late in your career,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: you know, so you kind of kind of get in
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: where you fit in. Yeah, he's solid starter. Not much
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: to write home about what I've seen from.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 7: Okay ady, Okay, So let's go, let's reel it back
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 7: a little bit. He went to Tokai University, where he
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 7: had a thirty seven and four win loss record a
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 7: point five seven earned run average. In twenty ten, he
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: set a career high ninety eight mile per hour. In college,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 7: he was the top pitching prospect In October of twenty eleven.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 7: Prior to the draft, he declared his desire to join
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 7: the Yoamuri Giants and played under the guidance of his uncle,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: former Giants manager Tatsusuchihara. And I may be saying that wrong,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 7: and I apologize, but both his grandfather and father were
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: coached him back in the day.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: Yes, maybe, you know.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: In December of December sixteenth to twenty twenty four, he
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 7: signed a one year, thirteen million dollar contract. On April fifth,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, he earned his first MLB win, allowing
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: one run over five and a third innings against the Royals.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 7: He made thirty starts for Baltimore, compiling a ten to
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 7: ten record, a four point six FORTYIRA with a hundred
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 7: and six strikeouts across one hundred and fifty seven innings pitched.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 7: February tenth, twenty twenty six, he signed a one year,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: five point one million dollar contract with the Rockies. So
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: they're hoping that he you know, he'll do good for them. Well,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: it remains to be seen.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: So far.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 7: He's you know, fourteen and thirteen with a four point
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 7: five ERA here in MLB, So we'll see.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: All right, what else can't that one? Cliff?
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, prior to his career, he was like
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: one of the best Japanese pitchers, scored like one hundred
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: and thirty six. I'm doing what Candy does with getting
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 8: some of the stats too, but he was like one
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: thirty six and seventy four two point four three ERA
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 8: fifteen or fifteen strikeouts. During that time he won gold gloves,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 8: all sorts of m VVP awards. Yeah, he's at the
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 8: end of his towards the end of his career. Yeah,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 8: his ERA wasn't the best over four and a half
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: for Baltimore, but yeah, he struck He struck out one
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 8: hundred and sixteen only sixteen walks. So that's that's showing
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: you he doesn't at least walk the ballpark, which you know,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: it's at least he's a so we'll see. I mean,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: it is Colorado. You never know. It's always you know,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: that's always like the depth now for for pitchers, it's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: like if you can pitch there, you're just astounding. And yeah,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: he was, yeah, all right, so there you do you
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: name one one or two guys of all time that
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 8: that that were good, you know, they're Erica He was, Okay, No,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: one's really great in Colorado. Good that being good for Colorado,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: that's the thing. They're good for Colorado. Or hey de
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: la Rossa like, I'm like, eh, still, I mean it's
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: they're not getting they're not they're not getting like two
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: point zero five e RRAs and like two hundred strikeouts
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 8: and eighteen to twenty wins. You're not getting that if
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: you're pitching for Colorado usually that's.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Not usually happening.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: It's the what Gobaldejamenez did.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 8: Of all those years they played, they've been they've been
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 8: to team since ninety two ninety three when they can't
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: mind you. I was at that first game, uh, for
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: Colorado against the Mets.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, ra with the Rockies. He was three point
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: sixty six. You could probably put Jeorlans.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 8: Which is good for college, which is good for Colorado,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 8: which is good for Colorado, which is decent. It's a
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: decent era, but for Colorado, that is phenomenal.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 8: That's probably about a two and a half for you
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 8: know in uh, in other Major League ballparks. But yeah,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: so we'll see.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: With this guy.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he was really great. Might as well. Uh, I
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 8: don't know, it's just a one year deal, maybe just
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 8: some more. I'm just expecting more of a four era
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 8: from this guy.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's continue on. We're going to the Cliffneck
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: of the Woods, and I am looking forward to this
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: story because I dealt with this individual before Cliff got
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: him longtime WBAL sports director Ravens Radio broadcast. Jerry Sandusky
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: announced as the retirement for forty two years in an
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: area where he grew up. Personal before I turnam with
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: a cliff on this one. I worked with Jerry and
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Channel seven and Miami back in the early eighties and
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: he was an intern there. I knew this guy would
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: go in there. And Andy Lostano was one of his
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: mentors down here. He used to give him a lot
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: of time down here. Keny knows about Andy because he
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: obviously was a sports cassiaris one on my early mentors
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: as well. Jerry Sandusky had a really good career. He's
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: all those guys that actually went one place, the first
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: major job, and the stayed there and made a name
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: for himself. So had thought that Jerry and Dust the
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: answer if I ever came in our past came across.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: He remember me like I remember him. But those are
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the early days for which I actually got going. Well,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously started before that, but my that was
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: my first case of TV. But hind the scene coming
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: up with material watching games and things like that. And
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Jerry went from South Florida here in Miami all the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: way to Baltimore sometimes cliff On Jerry Sandusky.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: Well, if you're able to stay in one mark for
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: as long as he did with Baltimore, made his name.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 8: He is uh, he is Baltimore Sports. I mean it's
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 8: it's it's tough, and doing TV news and TV sports,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 8: you know, for for a newscast is really really tough.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: It's yeah, they get a little bit of notoriety, but
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 8: it's like I said earlier, this is not the glorious job.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 8: It is a lot of hustle. It is a lot
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: of busting your butt and and yeah, you've got you
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 8: on your newscast, on your sportscast, you got a couple
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: of you probably have a four minutes if you're lucky,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: four or five minutes for that newscast. And he's doing everything.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: You know, he's producing, he was the news director, he's
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: he's he's he's shooting his own stuff a lot of time. Yeah,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: they have photographers, they might have a sports photographer, but
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 8: I can guarantee you he was shooting his own stuff, editing,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: writing everything, producing everything. People don't really understand all the
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: work that goes into it. And for him to be
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 8: as good as he was to get all the emmy
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 8: he's get the I think he was even more than
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 8: Edward Murrow Award or two. That that's really saying something.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 8: And you know he's going to be very much missed
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 8: in Baltimore area. So so many people grew up with
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 8: his voice and and this he is Baltimore sports coverage
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: for for the UH, for the UH what they call
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 8: it charm City.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, anybody else want to add to this. I know
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: this was in the backyard.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: I want I want to add that.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: In twenty fourteen, he actually authored his first book, Forgotten Sundays,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 7: A Son's Story of Love, Loss in Life from the
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: sidelines of the NFL. It's forward was actually written by
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 7: Baltimore Ravens former head coach John Harbaugh. It talks about
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 7: a coming of age story about a son's relationship with
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 7: his father. And then he's done lots of things. Yes,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 7: April first, he'd announced it he wanted to retire to
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: spend more time with his family. So kudos to him.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 7: I hope he enjoys retired life, and.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: More power to him. Like I said, he definitely one
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: of those individuals that I met early on who turned
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: out really well and Andelsteno, who helped me out, also
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: helped him out and gave him opportunities as some chests
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: coming aga from outside. JD. I know who you are.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: Great to have you back on here, and of course
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Dizzel is always pleasure to see you as well. And
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Tony Eric anything you want to add, because we're going
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: to go to party shots anyways, as we get ready.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: To rep this program up, I'm gonna defer.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: This one, no problem. Okay. So with that said, you're
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: not defern on your party shots. Everybody usually has one
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: and ericson to lead off.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Well. I have to say though, that the Brewers just
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: swept the Chicago Cubs. It is clearly obvious that there
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: is one owner of the NL Central and that belongs
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: to the Milwaukee Brewers, major League Baseball smallest market. They
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: find guys that fit, they find guys that compete. They're
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: not they're not the flashiest of names. Pat Pat Murphy
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: actually jokes saying you might have never heard of them,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: but I'm telling you they were playing a winning brand
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: of baseball, and I promise you at the end of
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: the season, when it's all said and done, it will
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: be them at the top of the NL Central for
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: the fourth year in a row.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: All right, tell me what's your party shot?
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: My friend, my partner shots and the Yankees, as good
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: as they may have looked, a lot of is fools
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: go until they figure out their bullpen.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: They will trouble when it matters the most. That's all
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 6: I got.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 7: Okay, my parting shot is Monday, we will all be
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 7: observing Memorial Day. Don't confuse it. It is the day
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 7: where we honor those who died serving the United States
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 7: of America. Rest in peace, everybody, any of if you
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 7: know anybody that died. I always kind of dedicate this
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 7: time to Todd Cornell. He was a staff sergeant who
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 7: died fighting in Afghanistan in Iraq, and I'll never forget that.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 7: But I just want to, you know, say thank you
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 7: to everybody that has served, you know, and lost their life.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 7: And that's what Memorial Day is all about. Yes, it's
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 7: a day off, that's what most people think about it,
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 7: but they're really is a deeper meaning. It actually dates back.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: If those of you that didn't know, the first Memorial
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: Day occurred on May thirtieth of eighteen sixty eight.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 6: Wow, just a little history, listen.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's very cool stuff, Katie. All right, club you
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: have party shot in micon whatever want you want to bolt.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: Uh we Well, first I'll talk about uh uh what
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 8: are the Mets thinking when they gave number eight to
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 8: the to that rookie with Gary Carter, which you know
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 8: by that and now he's fifty five after that, you
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 8: know one day later he's fifty five. You got to
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 8: do better than that, especially when you're you're retiring Beltrans number.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: I'm like, Gary Carter has been in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 8: You have Good and you have Strawberry, you have you
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 8: have Fernandez there and you're not House eight, not retired.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 8: And then for my real parting parting shot is congratulations
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: to the towsand University class at twenty twenty six. I'll
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: be at the graduation tomorrow for our college. I've worked
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 8: with some of these kids, and especially to shout outs
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 8: to Sabrina Tavolini and Jordan Cook. Sabrina is very special,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 8: so is Jordan. Sabrina actually befriended my daughter and helped
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 8: her out in a lot of ways, and so I'll
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 8: always be grateful that they're both great student, great talents,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 8: going to have great careers. In journalism or anything. They
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: go anything, they do great so well.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: So programming on Monday night, for those of you that
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: are wondering, are we going to have one hundred and
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: eight sixt is Baseball Talk Monday night? The plan is
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: to do so because it is an eight o'clock start.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: If you have plan, you know, we don't have to
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: do the show, but I'll figure against that night everybody
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: will have gotten fortunity your spentful time. So they are
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: planning to do baseball on Saturday and Monday as well.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: So I have a triple header tomorrow night. We begin
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: with sports rap and then we go with actually a
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: motacty madmouth show sports Repperent Candy includes a night what's
• 1:51:04
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• 1:51:07
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• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: the show from start to finish or even partially it
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, or very encouraged with the numbers that we've
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: had tonight. So with that said, Candy go to one
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: station break. Everybody can go ahead and let everybody know
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: how they get a hold of us. No more tation break, Candice, Thank.
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  Speaker 1: Great jump Andy here is very outstanding out over seasonally
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• 1:53:36
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  Speaker 1: be able to fully get out of the business, even
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: if I wanted to, a lot of my time is
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• 1:54:03
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• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Please let everybody now they get a hold of Cliff.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 8: Well, I'll be here. I'm usually here every week, like
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 8: I say, like you said, I won't be here next week.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: My uh, my nephew is graduating high school and just
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 8: north from Virginia. So but you usually can find me
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: here on Wednesdays talking talking sports, battling out a little
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: bit with Eric and uh and whatever we love to
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 8: talk about. And then I'm on Facebook. I'm old. So Cliff, Neil,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 8: find you talk to me about if you want with sports.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cliff Neil, not clip o' neial like I was there.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: I know, but I like that when I see a
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: little thing, let you bring up, I like to have
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: fun with it because it's all part of our business
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: clips as you know, being a prop about entertainment, information
• 1:54:48
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• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: And that's.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm cool with that. Everyone gets my name wrong.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 8: When my students have me, they still all semester, they
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 8: still get my last name spelled wrong.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: So really different references that I've been called. You'd be
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: laughing all the way to Richmond. But that's okay, you
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: might anyways, but go ahead, Tony, Uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So get ready for Eric and Tony on Saturday. I
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: will be on the first show. Candy will be on
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: as well, and then after that. These two guys are
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do an outstanding job. I am. I don't give
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: shows up to just anybody on the planet. Of these
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: two Eric and Tony, Hollywood want to call him. This
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: guy is unbelievable. And all these people I found from
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: different sources and how we bring them together on the
• 1:56:03
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• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: two guys. They're going to be ahead. Our show time
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: is planning. It will be actually talking baseball on our
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: network as we have that show it's been we've run
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: it in active for a while until we get into
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: the baseball season. Now we're into May. There's no other
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: time to put it out there. And I got two
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: guys in my system that I'm so deeply proud of,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: and Tony and Eric, and I'll be there Saturday. After that.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let these two long and can do what
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: they want. They're gonna come up with their own creative
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: approach how to do it. Guests all on them. I'm
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: just looking forward to seeing these two guys that have
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: earned their way with the network to go out there
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: and make a name for themselves on the network and
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: neither to see that Saturday as well with Tony and
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: they're proud of my two guys and let you know
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: where you stand with me, Mark he does in Candy
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: Wall it is what it is with you. You know
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: where you're at with me as well. With that's that
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't For this edition of the Sports Exchange, I'll
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: have Preet I'll have two tomorrow Cannie well as the
• 1:56:57
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