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Ohio State Football Insider: 4 Freshmen Who Stood Out At Buckeye Practice · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm joined by Marcus Hartman, our.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball insider, but today he is one of our football
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  Speaker 1: insiders outside what he says, Athletic Center.
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  Speaker 2: Get a chance to watch Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: State's third practice of the fall, and this was my
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  Speaker 1: first time watching Ohio States. So I want to sort
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  Speaker 1: of sanity check some stuff with you based on what
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  Speaker 1: we saw on Sunday or Saturday. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: first thing is this is this was a first time
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  Speaker 1: for everyone. Legend Bay was out there, he missed the
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  Speaker 1: first couple practices for disciplinary reasons. Was back out there,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt like we kind of got the full
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  Speaker 1: Legend Bay experience, which is you had some oohs and ohs,
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  Speaker 1: I mean legitimate. It was an os from the crowd
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  Speaker 1: when he had caught a pass in the flat, had
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  Speaker 1: a spin move made your I mean just left Jermaine
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  Speaker 1: Matthews gasping, grasping for air.
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  Speaker 2: So he had that.
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  Speaker 1: But he also put the ball in the ground at
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  Speaker 1: one point on and that was on a handoff, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was on the quarterback. I couldn't really tell,
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  Speaker 1: but you just have a it was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a one step forward, you know, half
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  Speaker 1: a step back kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: But also, man, you can see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just and where I was. I think
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  Speaker 3: we were in different places, so I was still behind
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  Speaker 3: the offense. So sometimes you can only see flashes, but
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  Speaker 3: you could see like it looks different the way his
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  Speaker 3: feet and he looks different, like below the knee, Like
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  Speaker 3: there's definitely some explosiveness and some quickness there that you
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  Speaker 3: don't just see with everybody. But and here's I just
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  Speaker 3: had this thought while you were talking. And ironic thing
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  Speaker 3: is I always remember back to the when Dantre Wilson
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  Speaker 3: the first time we saw him, he really hit that
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  Speaker 3: very first day and then and everybody that was owing
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  Speaker 3: and eyeing, which there's a couple of things about. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, the recruiting has was not quite the same
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  Speaker 3: then as it is now. But here's a thought, a
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  Speaker 3: theory that I came away with later was DONALD think
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  Speaker 3: Dantre Wilson he looked better in shorts. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he had the football speed. Well, we didn't have to
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  Speaker 3: see legend Bay in shorts. We just got to see
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  Speaker 3: him in pads. So that's even Actually that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: informing me that maybe it is a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: that it's the real deal. He's got the football speed
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  Speaker 3: and uh and the quickness you know when it really counts.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, I agree with you completely that it was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I see, you know, who knows what his durability is
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  Speaker 3: going to be. Is it going to be consistent enough?
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  Speaker 3: But you can see the talent and the explosiveness is
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  Speaker 3: definitely there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there is definitely some there there, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how much of a role he picks up
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  Speaker 1: for this year's team. If you know, ball security is
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  Speaker 1: one of those things Carlos Laughlin has been about on
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  Speaker 1: him about ball security since day one of spring practice.
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  Speaker 1: So if you can figure out the ball security piece
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  Speaker 1: of things, that will probably I am expecting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some substantial stuff from him this year.
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  Speaker 2: Another true freshman who we.
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  Speaker 1: Saw who I you know, I think it has been
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  Speaker 1: very much stock up this week is Jay Timmins.
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  Speaker 2: Where I think my assumption.
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  Speaker 1: Was, Okay, ear A Little will be the first team
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  Speaker 1: that nickel spot, and Terry Moore will be the first
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  Speaker 1: team at that field safety spot, and Jay Timmins, you know, hey, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: they're very high on him, but you know, he that's great.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you next year or maybe you'll earn a
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  Speaker 1: roll later on.
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  Speaker 3: Jay Timmins was with the ones all day, right, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the nickel as you were saying, Yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: were trying to kind of piece that together the first
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  Speaker 3: couple of days, and today it seemed like the picture
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  Speaker 3: was very clear and there was more consistency there. And
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  Speaker 3: that's another thing, you know, I think we all agreed
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  Speaker 3: that maybe maybe Earl Little could be like the in
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  Speaker 3: the box version of Caleb Downs, but not the deep
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  Speaker 3: safety part, and maybe we were all wrong about that,
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  Speaker 3: or it's also possible we have seen versions of this defense,
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  Speaker 3: which has still got Matt Greary back there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of managing the secondary where the nickel actually can
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  Speaker 3: drop into coverage pretty often and one of the other
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  Speaker 3: safeties will end up in the fit frequently if they
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  Speaker 3: want to do it that way. So who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 3: that is actually what they're they're gonna end up doing.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a little will be more of like Laithan
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  Speaker 3: Ransom type of a thing, and then you you know,
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  Speaker 3: would have a Hancock played deep a lot. Maybe Timmins
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  Speaker 3: could be a little bit more of that, or maybe
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  Speaker 3: it would be nothing like that at all. But it
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  Speaker 3: is interesting because that was also why you know, we
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  Speaker 3: were wondering Jermaine Matthews had been I think he was
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  Speaker 3: with the ones all the time today because he had
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  Speaker 3: was not so much the first couple. But we really
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  Speaker 3: didn't see much of him at all the first day, and
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  Speaker 3: then we wondered if maybe he could be you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're giving him some more time to try to work
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  Speaker 3: on him at the nickel as an emergency nickel, or
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  Speaker 3: if they've got two different nickels, because at the point
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  Speaker 3: I've said to a couple people, well, they really need
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  Speaker 3: three cover guys out there. For Texas in someone point
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  Speaker 3: in maybe Oregon, maybe not too many other teams, but
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  Speaker 3: there are times where they're gonna want three corners and
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  Speaker 3: there'll be times where they want three safeties. Uh. And
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  Speaker 3: then you know Timmins with the body style, maybe he
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  Speaker 3: really could be both. I mean, in a perfect world,
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  Speaker 3: he could be both. But you know, he looks a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more like a safety just in his size
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  Speaker 3: and everything out there. So if he can actually play corner,
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  Speaker 3: all the better. But yes, very interesting development as something
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  Speaker 3: that when you talk about that's how they look today
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  Speaker 3: all day, that makes it feel a lot more. That
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  Speaker 3: doesn't feel as experimental as something's felt like the first
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  Speaker 3: couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see. Yeah, and he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was someone who I saw come on a blitz
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times, like he came in and the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback is in any no contract, Jersey, Daron Pats, don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: You still can't touch the quarterback. But he, I mean
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  Speaker 2: came came right off that edge and picked up a
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  Speaker 2: sack at one point.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, he certainly can be something who can
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  Speaker 1: drop a drop, but seems like he's maybe comfortable rushing
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  Speaker 1: the pass or at least so situationally as well. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the offensive line. That is
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  Speaker 1: a spot where we've seen a couple of different things.
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  Speaker 1: Day one, Day two, Day three, it was back to
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  Speaker 1: what we saw on Day one, Ian Moore at left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: Austin Serveld at right guard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I know that's been what everybody feels
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  Speaker 3: like is kind of the ideal line up. But sometimes
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  Speaker 3: the coaches feel a lot differently than everybody else and
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  Speaker 3: may have more information, but it seems like that's probably
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  Speaker 3: it's it's one of two things. They've either decided yep,
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty much yet, or they're just saying, well, we
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  Speaker 3: know what Austin looks like at left tackle, let's give
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  Speaker 3: Ian as many reps as we can and see if
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  Speaker 3: he makes it. And sometimes they sometimes we see units
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  Speaker 3: look one way for a week and then they sort
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  Speaker 3: of then they'll have a scrimmage and then they'll scramble
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  Speaker 3: everything and then that's more like what it's going to be.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes that results in a lot of change. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't result in much change. So you know, just
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  Speaker 3: to caution everybody that it might be permanent or it
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  Speaker 3: might not be permanent.
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  Speaker 2: You never know.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly what the coaches are thinking. But I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 3: you can see what they're going with in terms of
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  Speaker 3: sire Veld certainly can play to obviously proved himself a
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  Speaker 3: tackle in college, but this may be you're a higher
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  Speaker 3: ceiling with this crew this way.
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  Speaker 1: And they could also when we're not in here for
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  Speaker 1: practice for go right back to what they did for
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  Speaker 1: practice too and just be alternating days. It's just yes,
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  Speaker 1: and we can certainly ask Brian Day about that or
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  Speaker 1: ask Arthur Smith about that. When we talk to them
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  Speaker 1: in the next week or so, we'll you know, I
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  Speaker 1: guarantee they will answer those questions, but we.
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  Speaker 2: Can certainly ask about that. So we'll we'll see where
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  Speaker 2: that all goes.
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  Speaker 1: A couple other true freshmen who kind of stood out
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  Speaker 1: a couple at different times. Brock Boyd had a really
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  Speaker 1: nice catch along the sideline from Julian saying he was
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  Speaker 1: working with the ones more than I expected to see
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  Speaker 1: him working with ones.
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  Speaker 2: They were shuffling guys all of it. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of movement with receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could you you would see a guy out
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  Speaker 1: there with the ones and then he could be out
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  Speaker 1: there with the threes. It felt like he was out
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  Speaker 1: there with the ones more than some of the other guys,
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  Speaker 1: so you know that that's at least something to watch.
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  Speaker 1: One other guy who was out there with the ones
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  Speaker 1: at one point and I thought, do I have this right?
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  Speaker 1: And I double check yes I did. Drake Quinn, true
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  Speaker 1: freshman defensive end. He was out there with the ones
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  Speaker 1: briefly and had a was going up against Philip Daniels
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  Speaker 1: and had a nice pass rush. It was it was
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get a sack, but it was it was
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  Speaker 1: a really solid rep. So that is that is a
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  Speaker 1: do not read anything substantial into that kind of thing,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of like, watch this space, monitor this space.
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  Speaker 2: You were talking about how physical things have been this week.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's kind of interesting because full camp, Brian da
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  Speaker 1: it feels like always is trying to balance you have
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  Speaker 1: to get ready for the season, but also injuries and
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  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. It feels like they're
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  Speaker 1: getting after it pretty pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I felt like, and I asked a few other people,
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  Speaker 3: just make sure I'm always afraid that my perception. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be a slave to my own perception.
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  Speaker 3: And so I asked other people if they felt the
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  Speaker 3: same way I felt for Day one. I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was really physical for day one, it would felt more
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  Speaker 3: like it was like Day five, not in pads, but
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  Speaker 3: in a day five later in practice type of the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they hit the ground running as far as
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  Speaker 3: I'm concerned in terms of everybody getting after it, running
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  Speaker 3: into each other, you know, a lot of aggression and
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  Speaker 3: just every and and this seems to be a good
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  Speaker 3: spree de corps to the whole thing too. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's not uncommon for the first few days of practice.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody likes to get back Even if you don't
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  Speaker 3: like practice, you still kind of like to get back
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  Speaker 3: to football, right so I and then and they were
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  Speaker 3: very physic today for it being the first day in pass.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there were guys on the ground the first
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  Speaker 3: or second team rep. So, you know, we'll see what
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  Speaker 3: that if that forretend's something another thing that I wonder.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the kind of thing you.
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  Speaker 3: Know that when when everybody was out on Ryan day, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and I would confess to being, you know, leaning more
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  Speaker 3: in that direction than some people, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: dinging them for not being physical enough in general all year.
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  Speaker 3: I think was definitely a criticism that probably had some validity.
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  Speaker 3: So you wonder if this is, you know, a further
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  Speaker 3: evolution of everything. Maybe it's nothing, but if it's a
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  Speaker 3: further evolution of things. And I also wonder, and this
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  Speaker 3: is just off the top of my head, if maybe
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  Speaker 3: it felt like they brought in just in volume. A
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  Speaker 3: couple of these transfers were almost luxury items, I think.
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  Speaker 3: And you wonder, maybe that's just purely depth. And you're
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  Speaker 3: saying you've got to have this number of guys both
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  Speaker 3: to make sure you have legitimate college football players at
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  Speaker 3: every position, but also to to to kind of expense
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  Speaker 3: in four or five injuries or something like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you hate to look at it that way, but it
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  Speaker 3: gains football, that's what happens. Maybe you feel like if
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  Speaker 3: you've got enough bodies that you really feel good about,
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  Speaker 3: if you've got forty bodies instead of thirty that are
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  Speaker 3: game ready, you can run into each other a little
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  Speaker 3: more often, and if guys get banged up, they can
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  Speaker 3: rest a little more. Or if somebody gets a serious injury,
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  Speaker 3: you've got somebody else that you can plug in there
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  Speaker 3: that without having to turn to a true freshman. However,
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  Speaker 3: talented or a true freshman or a red shirt freshman
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it may be, however talented that guy may be.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe also that some of those guys were brought
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  Speaker 3: into backfill. They lost three or four, you know, freshmen
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  Speaker 3: and sophomores that they would have liked to have kept,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure, but just the way that the transfer portal
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  Speaker 3: and everything works now, and maybe it's a little bit of.
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  Speaker 1: Both, yeah, And I do think they are in a
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  Speaker 1: better position to be a little more physical, just because
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  Speaker 1: the overall depth of the roster.
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  Speaker 2: Tony and I were.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about this on one of the recent shows, and
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  Speaker 1: you go through, like what are the big questions, and
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, yeah, they got questions, but the questions are, which,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what's the starting offensive line going to be
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  Speaker 1: from an offensive line that's returning four starters from last year.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's not a's that is pretty high on
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  Speaker 1: the list of potential questions you could have for an
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  Speaker 1: offensive line this time of year.
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  Speaker 2: And you kind of go around the field and there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, so quick run through a couple
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  Speaker 1: of the true freshmen who jumped out at practice on Saturday,
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