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Biopic Directors (with Dhruv Singh) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists and artists and artists.
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  Speaker 1: This week we're talking to some of the directors of
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  Speaker 1: the newest biopic movies. You know them, you love them,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not their story, it's somebody else's.
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  Speaker 2: Bohemian Rhapsody rocket Man Spencer. These are some of the
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  Speaker 2: most recent biopics that have taken Hollywood by storm.
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  Speaker 3: And the directors of biopics such as those but not those,
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  Speaker 3: are here in the studio to talk about them today.
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  Speaker 3: Now take out your lens of history. Let's paint this
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  Speaker 3: person in a new light, and let's listen in.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, dude, I'm freaking pumped for this.
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  Speaker 4: Night.
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  Speaker 5: I've been on night shoots.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, just getting home at five thirty in the morning,
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  Speaker 6: you know it, having a little.
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  Speaker 5: Past freaking.
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  Speaker 1: You get am a little pasta.
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  Speaker 5: You've been there all the time, we've been there.
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  Speaker 6: You have to dedicate your life to dedicating the depiction
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  Speaker 6: of another life means.
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  Speaker 3: The dedication to the depiction that's so correct.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, a little breakfast pasta. I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Right in the morning.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, everything's in omelet at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, yes, yeah, like it's a hot dog and sandwich.
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  Speaker 3: More like is a hot dog and omelet? Literally, I
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  Speaker 3: think it could be if we're like it's splitting hairs.
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  Speaker 5: It's like I'm a director, I'm eating dinner at a
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  Speaker 5: time you're eating breakfast.
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  Speaker 8: We're built different. That's that's what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, And I think what unites all of our work
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  Speaker 3: not to totally pivot it already to the thing, but
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  Speaker 3: like we are covering people who are built different exactly,
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  Speaker 3: and our movies, biopics by nature, are showing how we
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  Speaker 3: built them so different.
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  Speaker 5: Literally, those people.
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  Speaker 3: The building blocks, it's the building blocks of life. How
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  Speaker 3: did we get here?
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  Speaker 2: You know you have to rebuild the person's story as
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  Speaker 2: your understanding this story.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, how do you put their whole life into three hours?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to figure it out, give me a minute.
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  Speaker 6: I'm dedic we have a dedication to the depiction of
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  Speaker 6: the description of the life.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, d T D T d T d T D
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  Speaker 3: that's a movie.
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  Speaker 5: That's let's go on and introduce ourselves a should we
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  Speaker 5: talk about maybe introduce ourselves and then our current subject?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Great, I mean I'm happy.
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  Speaker 3: To start amazing.
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  Speaker 5: My name is Edward Wallett and Edgar Wallett Jallet and
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  Speaker 5: I am a filmmaker. I've made a couple of films,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm really really excited about my newest movie, Goose,
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  Speaker 5: which is the biopic of Mother Goose and kind of
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  Speaker 5: how she came up with these incredible stories. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 5: I really sat down and I thought, I really thought
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  Speaker 5: Mother Goose is the first rock star. Literally, you thought,
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  Speaker 5: I thought, you know what, Mother Goose is the first
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  Speaker 5: rock star?
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  Speaker 2: You know, that reminds me of It was me when
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  Speaker 2: Lin Manuel sat down and he was like, you know
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  Speaker 2: the story of Alexander Hamilton is hip hop?
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  Speaker 7: That sound of that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying the sound of Mother Goose is or
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  Speaker 2: the identity is a rock star?
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  Speaker 8: I mean yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: So I wanted to paint her life and how she
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  Speaker 5: came up with these stories, Mary Goose woman in eighteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 5: how she came up with these stories in her life. So,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just lightly, for example, she's walking by and
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  Speaker 5: she's listening to this this guy that's shearing sheep going,
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  Speaker 5: she's listening to a guy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, she's so.
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  Speaker 5: She hears some guy go bob a black sheep have
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  Speaker 5: you and wool? She goes, stop, wow, say that again? Wow,
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  Speaker 5: so my movie's full of stuff like mother says mother
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  Speaker 5: goose and then we cut to her reading the poem
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  Speaker 5: to a sold out house. Wow.
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  Speaker 8: Wow, she is a rock star. I mean we give
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  Speaker 8: her credit, we don't give her credit.
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  Speaker 5: And I pinted her just like Sophia Coppola did for
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  Speaker 5: Mary Antoinette with Kirson Dunst.
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  Speaker 7: Oh my god, a brilliant.
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  Speaker 9: One of the hallmarks of this genre.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, So I'm so excited to chat because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm turning history on its head like Humpty Dumpty turned
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  Speaker 5: his own head on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Literally, yeah, by.
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  Speaker 7: A press packet a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: It's part of the kay. I hope they use it.
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  Speaker 5: I sent them forty hours of footage and I said,
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  Speaker 5: use what you want, honey. Pec so fun.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that has to be next for you, right,
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  Speaker 9: because Humpty Dumpty kind of a hip hop icon.
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  Speaker 5: Literally, Yeah, well, I guess I could do by a
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  Speaker 5: big un Humpty the first rapper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he's fiction, he's not real. No, he's real, he's really.
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  Speaker 1: I watched this video. Signs is proved that he's real.
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  Speaker 8: Where did you find that video?
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  Speaker 5: On youtubee?
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  Speaker 8: On YouTube, Signs prove that a big egg man is real.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think that's true.
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  Speaker 5: They found his remains.
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  Speaker 8: He's real, they so they found.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've seen that video. They do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff about the pyramids, came.
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  Speaker 5: Up with Humpty Dumpty. This is not This isn't really.
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  Speaker 3: I think Humpty Dumpty is older than time itself.
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  Speaker 9: So I don't want you guys to look at ancient
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  Speaker 9: Humpy d is absolutely you think just because all the
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  Speaker 9: kings horses and kingsmen couldn't put him back together again,
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  Speaker 9: that invalidates his.
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  Speaker 3: Existing No, look what you think because competence of the
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  Speaker 3: king's men, you think he's not fully whole.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I think we
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  Speaker 5: should move on. Isn't real. I'm going to stick to
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  Speaker 5: that because I I literally have the text that Mary
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  Speaker 5: Goose came up with to create Humpty Dumpty. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what this is. She must have met him, No,
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  Speaker 5: she didn't meet him. Don't look at me, like, don't
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  Speaker 5: look at each other.
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  Speaker 3: She must each other, Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: About each other with my.
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  Speaker 3: Beause that makes so much senseense she would would have mattered.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, well go anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yes, of course I have pleased to be here.
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  Speaker 6: I'm even solomonites, you might. I've been in the industry
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  Speaker 6: since the nineteen seventies, you know, and I've met quite
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  Speaker 6: a niche for myself in the biopic field.
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  Speaker 9: Very much have, of course.
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  Speaker 6: But you know this is one of my most ambitious
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  Speaker 6: biopics yet. I've been covering the lead singer of Blink
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  Speaker 6: one eighty three, three two No no Blink one eighty three,
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  Speaker 6: the little known, very short lived band. I had about
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  Speaker 6: a twenty five minute run before they decided it was
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  Speaker 6: a bad idea and they would.
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  Speaker 9: Be sued for copyright infringement.
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  Speaker 6: It's about the decision of going from forming Blink one
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  Speaker 6: ergy three and then not doing it anymore. It's a
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  Speaker 6: four part six hours. It's a one shot, right, it's
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  Speaker 6: a single shot biopic or part six hour four parts,
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  Speaker 6: six hours single shot.
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  Speaker 3: Shot biopicks six parts, six parts.
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  Speaker 9: In the four parts, it's part.
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  Speaker 4: Of six hours.
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  Speaker 3: Four six sex.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, four multiplied by six, which is, as we all know,
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  Speaker 6: twenty four, and it is, in fact.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't know.
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  Speaker 1: He probably doesn't think that's really I know that I
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  Speaker 1: literally said twenty four before any of you guys said
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  Speaker 1: twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: So don't you guys, don't have to paint me like that.
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  Speaker 5: I was so happy to be here. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't like this energy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you were saying, yes, I interrupted by him.
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  Speaker 5: Really, I was just so happy, really love you guys.
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  Speaker 8: So I don't know why this is okay.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I could turn BacT time interesting now.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: This is the humpty dumpey denihalism is going to cause
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  Speaker 6: a rift in the room.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to keep talking about how it's a
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  Speaker 5: big egg. You're not going to tell me that he's real.
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  Speaker 5: I simply won't say. I want to hear my So
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  Speaker 5: it was it was a failed band that lasted a.
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  Speaker 4: Day, and yeah, it's not failed. Isn't less of God?
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  Speaker 8: I'm striking out.
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  Speaker 6: It was less about failure and more about a conception
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  Speaker 6: that was never brought to fruition. But I thought, if
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  Speaker 6: these bands get a whole biopic treatment for their thirty
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  Speaker 6: year runs, what.
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  Speaker 9: About the ones that never were a band at all?
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  Speaker 9: Sort of a I.
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  Speaker 3: Love that it can us live essentially an entire full
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  Speaker 3: day with Blink one eighty three is such a choice
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  Speaker 3: and and do you have a plan for how that's
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  Speaker 3: going to pan out in theaters? Just logistically, are people
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  Speaker 3: going to come back? Are they going to sleep in
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  Speaker 3: the middle? Are their breaks?
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  Speaker 9: It will be one uncut screening.
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  Speaker 3: Just finish eyes all the way through finish.
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  Speaker 6: And if anyone falls asleep, we will spray them in
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  Speaker 6: the face with cold water. Oh four D yeah, yeah exactly,
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  Speaker 6: so they have to stay wake for the whole thing because.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're not allowed to blink.
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  Speaker 5: So you'll so like you go to the on the
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  Speaker 5: movie and it says like seven pm one day and
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  Speaker 5: then yeah the next.
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  Speaker 1: Day, that's right, and then you godict a donkey man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a deconstruction of the biopic.
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  Speaker 6: You know you said it's by dedication to a description
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  Speaker 6: of a depiction of a deconstruction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah a human Yeah, donkey dick a donkey donkey Yeah. Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? I'm uh d D the four. I'm one
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  Speaker 1: of four d D's in my family, so I'm d
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  Speaker 1: D the four. I'm kind of like a gnarly guy
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  Speaker 1: the fourth?
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 1: No, the four?
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  Speaker 3: What's the what's the three?
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  Speaker 10: Is?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 5: Who's d D?
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  Speaker 3: Is it d D the three or D.
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  Speaker 1: D, the third D, the one D, the two D,
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  Speaker 1: the three D, the four. I don't know what's so hard.
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  Speaker 9: It just sounds like you're four of them. It sounds
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  Speaker 9: like you are a band of four. But that's what
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  Speaker 9: it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: You've got sisters and we all hang out and get
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  Speaker 1: great meals together on Sundays to kind of bring the
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  Speaker 1: waitress to her knees in terms of how much we're asking.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, cumberssome meals. Yes, yes, people.
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  Speaker 3: Would say great meals.
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  Speaker 1: So I am currently almost finally picture wrapped on the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful bio beck, the Rob deer Deck biopic.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to guess that could you tell?
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  Speaker 7: Almost like is that part of your press? Kid too?
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  Speaker 1: His words have kind of melded into me because I've
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  Speaker 1: been working on this story for so long, so many
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  Speaker 1: different things have.
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  Speaker 5: Just come to me, and.
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  Speaker 1: It's been such a beautiful story to tell because not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people know his true story.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody really knows the Rob.
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  Speaker 1: Deer Deck true story. He grew up in a middle
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  Speaker 1: to upper wealthy class family in a suburb, found skateboarding
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  Speaker 1: and decided if I can become lightly pro, I can
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  Speaker 1: make my own brand. I can make my own company
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  Speaker 1: and then I can make TV. And so it's so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: You know what this guy has done, Like he is
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  Speaker 1: working and working and working and working, and there's such
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  Speaker 1: a story there. There is such a story there. There
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  Speaker 1: is such a story there. It's ridiculousness.
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  Speaker 5: If I can say, kind of a conflict of his
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  Speaker 5: like I wonder if we're still looking. We're still looking.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we're so close to picture wrap. There was
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  Speaker 1: one some conflict we were thinking of, like maybe he
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  Speaker 1: is angry at a skateboard.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe he builds.
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  Speaker 1: His fantasy fantasy factory and he goes it's too big.
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  Speaker 1: So we're really looking for a fantasy. Like he's so happy,
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  Speaker 1: that's the problem. He's kind of content with life and
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  Speaker 1: life has just really worked out for him. So we're
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  Speaker 1: really just trying to find a kernel of pain and
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  Speaker 1: suffering in his life. And I'm sure it's there.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure it's there soon.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's it's it's quaking with fun. It's what
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  Speaker 1: we like to say. It's drivening in a in a
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  Speaker 1: wacky way.
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  Speaker 4: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like you're up at a hotel and you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to watch, so.
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  Speaker 4: You're doing.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I didn't one of those great those great breakfast
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  Speaker 9: with the other d ds just catching off.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's gonna be. It's gonna work, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be great, so.
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  Speaker 5: Awesome, it's so amazing, and it's kind of works interesting
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  Speaker 5: to try to find a conflict right before picture. Yes, yeah, yeah, yea.
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  Speaker 1: So we got to the end of the movie and
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  Speaker 1: we shot it and we're just editing it and it's
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  Speaker 1: coming together and it feels like a thirteen minute short film,
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  Speaker 1: but it's actually.
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  Speaker 5: What we should feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen minute short was what I always say, a short
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  Speaker 1: film that feels too long.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, short film thirteen long for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you guys, it's working. It's ridiculousness. It's ridicty, donkey,
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  Speaker 1: it's ridculous. It's nuts up and nuts out. Get ready
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  Speaker 1: for a ride.
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  Speaker 7: Wow, nuts up and nuts out, Nuts up and.
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  Speaker 1: Nuts out, nuts up and nuts out because you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: want to get them.
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  Speaker 7: Out, get your nuts out.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, okay, ok I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's works.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody else, go go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well all right, I I my ears are burning.
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  Speaker 8: Why from someone else talking about you?
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  Speaker 5: Is that related?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you?
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  Speaker 7: Is your film getting bitting walls.
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  Speaker 3: Are burning. I was just in this sauna for too long?
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  Speaker 5: Is related disclosure?
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  Speaker 3: My name is Julia fits Morris. Is there a real person?
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  Speaker 5: It's you, it's you, baby.
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  Speaker 4: Person. Believe that's a real person. Is that also a
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  Speaker 4: fictional thing?
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  Speaker 5: Like, no, it's not a humpy dumpy not real dude,
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  Speaker 5: bro bro.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, literally, you have to watch some of the
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  Speaker 3: videos we're watching. Julia fitz Morris. Hi, Okay, so here's
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  Speaker 3: the deal. I have been working in many sort of like.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just ask questions? Did you get hit by something?
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  Speaker 1: I saw a car out there that was completely wrecked.
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  Speaker 5: With no driver in it? Is Are you okay?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean I know I did.
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  Speaker 3: That is what happened to me. I got into a
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  Speaker 3: little fender bunder outside, but I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: I can't believe somebody survived.
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  Speaker 3: Insurance is going to sort all that out. My name
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  Speaker 3: is Julia. If it's Morris, real person.
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  Speaker 4: And I am.
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  Speaker 3: You don't believe me, I believe you. You don't believe
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  Speaker 3: that I'm real. Guys, my ears are.
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  Speaker 5: Burning trail of blood from you all.
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  Speaker 3: The way to the door when you walk know, I
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  Speaker 3: know it's crazy. Insurance is going to sort all this out.
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  Speaker 3: My ears are burning. My name is Julia, if it's Boris,
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  Speaker 3: and I am working on the Tate McRae biopics. We
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  Speaker 3: are getting in early, because that's the problem with these biopics.
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  Speaker 3: If you wait too long, somebody gets too famous, they
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  Speaker 3: get too many awards, too many things happen, and then
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you got a bunch of biopic
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  Speaker 3: directors clawn at the door, clawn at their agent's e mail,
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  Speaker 3: going hey, have you have you? Have you met this person?
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  Speaker 3: Have you met this person? Have you met this person?
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  Speaker 3: And they are trying to get their teeth on this concept.
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  Speaker 3: But I am not gonna wait. Tate McCrae's success is
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  Speaker 3: such an inevitability. It is so set in stone. I
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  Speaker 3: asked a psychic, got it confirmed. This is going to
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  Speaker 3: be massive, And so can who's playing Tate?
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  Speaker 1: Such a good question. I cannot get to get into
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  Speaker 1: that for all of us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, so right now I'm I am in
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  Speaker 3: conversations with Addison Ray's sister, and those conversations are very
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  Speaker 3: fruitful and are going to lead somewhere amazing. So we
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  Speaker 3: are obviously in pre pro because we're waiting for events
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  Speaker 3: of Tate's life to unfold so.
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  Speaker 5: Happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're writing events of her life as they happen.
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  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because it's like, you know so much
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  Speaker 3: she's uh, i'd say stones throw from twenty five right now,
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  Speaker 3: and so so much is happening to you at that age.
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  Speaker 3: Your frontal cortex isn't even fully locked. There's so much
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  Speaker 3: changing and evolving and and new experiences that happened to you.
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  Speaker 3: That the movie is changing direction every single day, which
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  Speaker 3: is so exciting.
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  Speaker 6: So many people would say, what in that case, we
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  Speaker 6: will opt to make a documentary instead because it's literally events,
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  Speaker 6: But you made the bold choice of making a fictionalized
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: biopic film.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I have made way too many fucking documentaries them
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: And thank you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: You did about the Chilean miners.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, from that, I mean it's like embarrassing.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, J Simpson making America.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: You made Simpsons made J Simpsons made soup.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this politely, but it
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: feels like your hair is bleeding. I don't know if
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that's not.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, insurance will sort that out, will be good.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: So crazy as there was Sony next to the car
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: and said whoever was in this cannot be alive now.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And they say he said, started looking at the sewers,
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: looking at the trees. This person crawled the diele or
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: the way to hide and die, flew the way to
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: hide and die like a cat.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Anyways, I'm doing awesome. Tate's super excited, excited. Addison Ray's
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: sister is soon to be very excited. Tatiana.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Tatiana, don't get me started on kids' names these days.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: I won't let you know what you did.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: You cast her because of her similarity to Tate mccray's name,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Tatiana Ray sounds like a slightly longer version.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Cray. It's the full name. Well, I'm in conversations with
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Tate and we're we're sort of.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we know that, Yeah, we know that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You know, we're good.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I just love it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Well, No, I'm doing amazing. Know, it's so exciting and
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited. And this is going to be the way.
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: The way you went from those documents.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: You went from an acclaim documentary about the Prussian genocide
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: literally stinky. I mean you you got a defunct country
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: to confess to war crimes denied a hundred years ago,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: to now this is McCray.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just you know, it's like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get my brand so bogged down
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: in Oscar Award winning documentarianism.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: You know, I have to change it up.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: And so this fictional story of the real life story
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: of Tate McRae that as yet to be written is
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: the most exciting thing. It's going to be my boyhood.
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: Wouldn't want to bowl the wood on your mantle from
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: all those awards.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: This is such a.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: That's okay.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Brighton Brooklyn Paper NEPO stopped it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Brighton.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You never stopped in the middle of your name, Brighton Booker.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here, honored. I'm doing a
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: biopic about a sweet, sweet young girl named Miranda Nick.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: Miranda Nick, you don't.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Know, passed out in a Sephora at the age of
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: twelve and is the reason we have mall cops and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: mall security.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So your biopic is about the one who inspired the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: need for mall cops.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: So she passed out in a Sephora, kind of a
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: thankless hero who caused the war to say, hey, maybe
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: we need some help and mall.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Her story, her gripling relationship with drugs as she gets older.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It's well, she was arrested right when she passed out.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: They arrested her because they thought something was up, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: they almost blamed her.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: Yes, thank you, I didn't know you knew.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Rebecca a huge Miranda nick fan.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Why did you call me Rebecca?
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: Car outside? Rebecca? Where I'm from is a term of endement,
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: from where are you from? I'm from Valley.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: Distinctly each other, Rebecca when they love each other.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You're such a uk a kingdom of valley going to
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: like a.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Grocery store, like, hello, Rebecca, how are you back up?
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like a sport.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: It's kind of like that another hot one over here
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: in see Valley.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: Anyway. Sorry, so many weird things at once.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Life though. I mean, that's what I figures we're catching.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I think you guys have probably all had to sit
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: down and streamline someone's life into the story you want
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: really hard sometimes, you know, life is so multi faceted.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Somebody can be so many, you know. For me, I'm
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: a I'm a father, I'm a I'm a son, I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: an uncle. You know, I'm I'm a student, I'm a teacher,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I'm all sorts of things. I'm a bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Pumpty dumpty denier.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: That was the song I really there too.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: You guys are gonna look foolish because I'm gonna demand
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: that that gets taken out. At the top of the episode.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: You guys gonna be bringing this up, and I'm gonna go,
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: what are you talking about? And why do you want
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: to take it up? Because it's true and you're denying
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: because I'm embarrassed because I'm not here to talk about that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I'm here to talk abut my movie and I don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: want to talk about I found four people that believe
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: the craziest thing I've ever heard, which is the giant
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: egg that gets put together by by king or queen.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Makes you look ignorant, and.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: It's like giant and egg. It makes you sound bad.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It is what it is.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a tone associated with what you're saying.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: You just are just you're telling me that a giant
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: egg fell off.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Just don't say it, buddy, don't say it like that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: You guys are gonna look foolish because it's gonna be
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: out of the edits.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You guys are who's playing mother goose?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Dude?
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: Amy Adams.
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: That's amazing.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Great, she's awesome.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And are you doing it animated or live action?
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: No, it's live action in very very hyper realistic, but
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: not in the editing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: And so we're shooting these sets to make it look realistic,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: and then we're doing a lot of jump cuts and
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: zooms and and and fast forward and rewinds and.
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: Stuff like that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a fun it's like a silly, crazy thing.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: There's this amazing scene when she runs into her best friend, yes,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Mary Muffett, and she's talking about her daughter got it
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: bit by a spider. And she goes home, and she
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: goes and you know, and and she starts thinking about
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: this sad thing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: She's dying.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: She's dying from the spider. And she takes her pen out,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: tears little miss Muffett eating your cards in a way. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: along came Miss Muffett. Along comes spider, said beside her,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: frighten Miss.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: M Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: So you believe that a spider can come and sit
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: down next to somebody, but a wall scaling egg.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Is too far, Alicus, I really wish there's a fancy
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: wherever it wants it. So being on this panel with
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: all of you was literally something I wrote when I
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: was in college. This is the dream panel that I
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: would sit on. And I'm really upset right now that
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: all we're talking about is this preposterous claim that is
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: just it's just bothering me so much. So like I
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: look forward to stay my whole life, and you guys
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: are ruining it. So if we could just move on
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: from the humpty dumpty thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: We're all specifically there when you were writing about.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: This dream all of us was she also? And in
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: it was she in English?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: You guys would know, No, don't ask too many questions,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you're going to get confused.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: It dream people to talk with. If I could sit down,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I said, with four panelists. If I could sit down
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: with four people to talk to them about what it's
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: like to make movies, it was you guys I look
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: up to so much. I would appreciate it if you
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: gave me some respects. Oh, we're giving you all the respect.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: We just don't.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna agree with everything you say.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: So anyways, what's just sort of the marketplace of ideas.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Well. He's a very little known figure that the lead
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: of it. So I figured we should cast a.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Fairly unknown actress and actor I'm sorry to play the part.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: So we did manage to get Tom Hanks.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: He'll be, you know, bodying this.
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: This man's a pretty big not where I'm from.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Where are you from?
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Upper Rhode Island?
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Say it like a mystery?
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: Well, you know is Upper Rhode Island?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, because there is there a legend.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of lore about Upper Road Island.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: It must be regionally specific, because I don't think I don't.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: Think it reached me the law of Upper Rhode Island.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry. I I grew up in San Diego.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm unfamiliar.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: You've never heard of the Rhode Island express No, I've
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: never heard of a ghost Upper Rhode Island. When you
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: get off a little part of the highway, sometimes you
• 27:02
  Speaker 11: take a little left turn in the dead of night,
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: and the moment you go there, you'll be led to
• 27:08
  Speaker 11: another bad way, an expressway called the twenty five. It
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: travels for about fourteen miles.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Expressway expressways. Scary, it's just so faster, yes, but it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: part of the lore of Upper Road.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: Mystery. Sound like directions.
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: A map, a map, A spooky map, a treasure map,
• 27:41
  Speaker 12: a treasure map well, also a regular map, but it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: also it can be viewed as as.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: What's the treasure?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: The ability to go faster on the road without a fee,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: without any toll.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Way on this expressway. No one knows who does, no
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: exactly that I've ever.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So this is a town that is famous for some
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: for its expressway, but it has not heard of the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: star of the polar express.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: That's a very. They're not interesting, call it Hanks.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Girls are I'm fine? And it smells like damn burning
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: toast in here? Can someone turn that off?
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Your eyes keep going in separate directions and then coming back.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: It's just trying to see all of you, guys.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I'm fine.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: The insurance will sort all of this out. So you
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: got Tom Hanks.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Hank.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: Now it's a very.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: It's a challenging role, you see, because like I said,
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: it's it's only about twenty five minutes of what happened
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: in real time, which is this man decided to form a.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Band for twenty four hours.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: Over twenty four hours, so almost all of it is
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: in slow motion.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: That's in extreme slow motion.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: For hour exactly.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: So we shot at three frames per second, so you
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: don't finish it that last minute.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: Is it's of a legend, much like the road island
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: express you with it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: It's a lore.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: It's it's mysterious.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: I don't I think I've never heard of this in
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: pop culture.
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: Itulture. It's in the like map Google map.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not culture legend if you're looking.
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: Up it should be in pop culture.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know why you're all.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Are there these kind of like mysteriousness, like mysterious things about.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: It or about the legend if people die, if people
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: die on it, or hundreds and hundreds of people have
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: probably almost died.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: The rage of automotive accidents.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: Is in the world, in the worlds of the world.
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: Statistically a motive accident capital not by any verifiable fact,
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: but it's possible.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: You know, there is a verify for verifiable way to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: look this up.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: It's a highway, it's an expressway.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Sleeping alone. My god.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So Tom Hanks is the original story when he's creating
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: blank one A three, is it an older man because
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Tom Hanks is getting up?
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: No, this was a fourteen year old high schooler who
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: decided I love It was in nineteen ninety nine.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: Enema of the State had just been released.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: This seminary.
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: Of the state Blink two albums and great album one.
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: It's the one with the nurse on it, right with
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: the what the hot nurse on.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: The arom take Off your Pants and jacket?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, that is the state nurse.
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: Take Off your Pants and Jacket is an album?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: No, you haven't heard the other blank twenty two album.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I've not heard that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: No?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Do they not have that one over there?
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: No?
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: Noad.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Sorry, Upper Road, which is one of the smallest states.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: It's clearly that there's an upper anyways.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: What was it like to grow up there?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: God, long, long summers, old winter, long summer.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Sounds nice.
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: Yes, it was quite nice.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Actually, all the days were the same, you know those
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: kind of places. Sure, yeah, wake up Sunday, newsprint on
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: your fingers, Oh sure, yeah, long newsprint playing a fourteen
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: year old.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: And yes, in slow motion for and the one shot
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: of it all.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: Yes, it's all in one shot. It's shot at three
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: frames per second, so it's extreme slow motion. Yes, imagine
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: a second and now I'm there, I'm.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: There, Yeah, I know what a second is. Miranda Nick,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: who's playing Miranda.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: Well, we haven't cast it yet.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, So we're making a big kind of crazy boga
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: fide swing with Rob deer Deck. He's going to be
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: played by a man that's actually a lizard. We're gonna
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: make him a lizard, a little liard man. We were
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: so inspired by the Monkey Man movie that we decided,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you guys are caught up. You thought real lizard, I thought.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Conspiracy. We're talking about lizard like no, no.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: So the first the first line is you see a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: mom giving birth and voice over of the real Rob
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: deer Deck if he agrees, and it says, I've always
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: thought of myself as a little bit.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Of a weird little lizard. Out shoots from.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: The vagina gecko.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: The projectile shot front.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Is like projector shot a gecko from a human woman.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: What the hell?
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's me. Let's start from the beginning.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: At seven second flash forward.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he goes, I've always thought a little
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: bit of a ridiculous well, it's filled with ridiculous.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: A question that I UH think about when it comes
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: of biopics too, is the real person, if they're living
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: or their estates can be very intense about the biopic
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I want to make sure you're telling the story they
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: want to be told. So how has it been working
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: with your subjects? It sounds like most of them are
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: still alive.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I think we should talk about also the life rights,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: like did you get because some people go through biopics
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: and they go for the book rights. People will write
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the biography and then you get the rights, so that
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: sometimes cheaper and then sometimes yeah, like Miranda Nick.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: Her family put us through the ring.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: No way believe it or not.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like you have to she she's still alive.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: She still live because then later in her life, which
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to but the film does, she brings
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Macha to Los Angeles.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: She brings a cup of.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: She brings both mall cops into the existence of the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: world as a concept, and then she invents.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: She brings she.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Brings a cup of Macha Angeles.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you this and that's not.
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: It's the first cup or it's a.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: She brings Macha to Los Angeles.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: And San Gabriel Valley stories they just keep going.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: She picks up. She's thirsty on the way. That's why we.
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: Can't cast it right because it's like, how do I
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: do it, I have to say, I don't.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I just I'm struggling as a like you, she is not.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Are you encountering struggles with the fact that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: She's not Okay there piece of.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's toasty in here.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: To answer your question, you don't have to be famous
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: to have a biopic about you. And that's what really.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Grinds my giars about biopics is that why does it
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: have to be for the famous people?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, usually, like an interesting story helps, and.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: That's why I think that that's the interesting story. There's
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: so many things where you're gonna go, oh my god.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Miranda Nicks is the no. Miranda Nix is the reason
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: we say the word awesome. She wrote that what she
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: wrote that, I think Shakespeare no he did not awesome,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: is going to be pissed. But there's so many things
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: about her right way, I'll tell you, and you go,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: oh god. I had no idea.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Who's the woman?
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Did she write the word?
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: It's in the film.
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: It's in the film, but it sounds actually wrote it,
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: but not concocted.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: She wrote.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: She sings marcher, she passes. There's just so much there
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: in the way.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: She's kind of like an every woman. She's doing stuff
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: that the normal people do.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: But I'll tell you what I did to get her rights.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I sat her down and I did and I remember,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: like when I told some of my friends that I
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to do the story of her life because I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: read the biography. I was the airport in the airport
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and I picked up a book and I'm just going
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to read this on the plane.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Rebecca, I'd like to purchase this.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: Read the book and went, oh my god, I have
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: to tell her story.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I have to.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: People don't know who she is. But the rights took
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: a long time to get and I'm dealing with mainly
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: her daughter. Her daughter is the one that like, do
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: you guys have like siblings or family or the estate
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of the people that you all represent.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm talking to Tate's mom a lot too, because
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: we're both you know, it's easier to rather than just
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I think we're all familiar with the state of the industry.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Shooting just a straight up movie is harder to do
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: if you don't have a pre written IP. It's much
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: easier to go book to film in terms of selling something.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: So we're really trying to get Tate to write a
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: book we're really trying to get her to write them. Oh,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: it's impossible. She is dancing all the time, she is
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: in rehearsals, she's on a world tour, and so me
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and her mom, Denise are we kind of get together
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: on a text threat and we're like, Okay, maybe we
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: can get fifteen minutes from her on this book. We
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: just kind of like, catch her at breakfast on the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: tour bus, slide a laptop in front of her face,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: open up a final draft. She's writing her book in
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: script software, whatever way she can get to it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: The movie she's like nobody else.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: That as of right now. That's one of the main
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: things in the movie.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Book.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: In different format books, we're waiting.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: For stuff to happen. We're buying I'm buying in early,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I'm buying in early, and.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: It's so many you know, so many people would take
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: the easy route and get a ghost writer and have
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: someone else right and just slap her name on it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: But you're like, no, we need her at fingers on
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: the keyboard in final draft.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the documentarian in me. I guess I really
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: came from her.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Do you ever just put some words down on the
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: ground and see what she dances, and.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: See what she dances, like the way that you ask
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: dogs to predict oscar winners, and what you can put
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: treats in front of the words.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: See what she dances.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good thing for me to try. I
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: just spit ball, and I think that's a good idea
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: because if she could dance to a sentence, Oh, that'd
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: be that'd be twice as long as the movie currently is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Or you doing like a little kid when they play
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: when some of those old moles used to a big piano,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you just dance around it and just kind of.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if there's I believe that there am.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I te scientists working on converting words.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: What happened?
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: You have three less teeth than you had a minute ago?
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Do you swallow three teeth?
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: Nose bleed? You have a nose bleed.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: But there's so many teeth in this room. Why they
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: put so many? There's way more teeth than normal in
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: this interview.
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: Do you have a you have a loved one? We
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: can call God?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: No, I mean they're all busy, don't even work. Don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: bother them, guys. Insurance is going to sort all this out.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: You're dying?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: No, it's always so interesting.
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what about Robbies to work with?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I mean he is a blast. This guy has so
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: many thoughts. He's kind of like a big picture like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: what if we put me on a blimp? What if
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: we put the movie on a blimp? What if we
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: shot in a blimp? What if we did a flip over?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, blimp stuff is amazing.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: He is like fascinated with blimps. Right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's perhaps because he saw a blimp
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: two days ago the promotional Timothy Shallon.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Movie that was it, And he's just like locked into
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: something about a blimp. He's super pumped about.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: Bloom challenging because does he have a blamp or has
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: he been on a blamp?
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: He's never been on a book before and it's now
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: a new dream. Yeah, you're doing his biopick, so you
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: do you have to say, like, hey, I am doing
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: this movie by things you've done.
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: We can't just add you in a blimp.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I want trying And he's going, but what what if
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we shot a TV show in a blimp? And I'm like,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: so I'm shooting a biopic about you. Yeah, you're a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: little lizard man playing in this And he goes, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: always thought of myself as a little lizard man. I'm like, yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: we got that part man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: So besides the opening, which is the full frontal ecu
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: of a vagina, the rest of the movie is on
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: a blimp.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Well, he's really pushing for that. It's like kind of like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: uh uh, let's start from the beginning hard cut too.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: He's on a blimp and I go, buddy, that's the end.
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you see, it's like a hot air balloon they
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: go at the end of movies.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Literally, yeah, exactly.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so we've got his childhood figure out. It's
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: like this great three minute montage of him like being
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: fun at school, teachers loving him, him finding a skateboard,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: going huh, I couldn't work with this. He has a bully,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: but the bully ends up really liking him. It's kind
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: of like a one line.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: He's pulling people over. It's really fun.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: It's really got a one line for the bully, one
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: line for the bully.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Who's the bully being played by?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Oh that's we got Gayden matt Rasso to play the bully.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting you bring up the childhood. I'm so
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: curious about the childhood of blink one. Did we touch
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: on that?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Is it flashbacks?
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Ever?
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: It's no, it's exclusively one long cock so it's exactly
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: it's a it's a single right, So we can't really
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: get into that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: That's the thing I keep forgetting.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Something I haven't been able to let go of, just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: really quick. Usually when you shoot slow mo, you shoot
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: more frames.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: More practice. You can realize that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Basically a twenty four hour slide, it's a show.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Way three times, so it's going to be slow. But
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: those frames are disconnected from each other far apart.
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: It's kind of like an aurror frame. It's like one
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: of those digital picture for.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: You like memory.
• 42:30
  Speaker 13: Yes, the sound amazing incredible. There's no one in there
• 42:37
  Speaker 13: that I wouldn't watch. You're all amazing one in there,
• 42:40
  Speaker 13: all our musk musk.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I am sat in the damn crazy. Do you see
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Mother Goose as a kid.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: We do see Mother Goose as a kid. It's very,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: very fun. She's played by Anna Sophia Rob.
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: You see her hatching from an egg?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: No, she's you don't believe in eggs, of course?
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: No chickens come from I never, Hey, big boy.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Egg.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: It's made over here in semi Valley heard of an egg.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: Rebecca Eat the Chicken, Wake Up.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: I am so hurt by this. I'm so hurt by this.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: But what I want to say just to talk about
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: my Mother Goose movie really quickly. I wanted to get
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: the rights from the estate. I was denied for years
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: and years and years because they said they were waiting
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: for Greta Gerwig. Very very very sad day for them.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: They called me crying and said, she doesn't want it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Do whatever you want. And so it's hard over them
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: because they've been beside themselves. I didn't even know there
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: could be in a state left.
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the very goose to state. Dan Goose is is
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: the Dan Goose.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I've met him.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: He's a monster, a money monster. I mean he's he's
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: honestly just banking off. He wears that big old witch hat.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: He lives in a big shoe to prove that he's
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: a Goose, and he raises all his kids there. It's
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: like very pathetic in many, many, many ways.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: I'm so sick of the one percent.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: It's crazy. He's so rich, so costplaying poor. You know,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: it's really really really crazy, and it makes me so sad.
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: To try to get plumbing into a shoe must have
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: took so much ry.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I'm right.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Well, what's funny is like he's like, oh, we built
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: in the shoe room, and it's like, no, you built
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: a bathroom, my guy, you didn't build a bathroom into
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: the shoe. There wasn't a to let in the shoe.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: There's an extra room, and he doesn't. I mean these
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: shoes things where I'm like, and then I'm like, I'm
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: too close? Why am I arguing about whether or not
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: this is a shoe in a bathroom or shoe built outroom.
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: What's that moment when you go I'm too close?
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Wall close?
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: The hazard of a biopic.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Always get a little too close to all in love.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: With the person you're supposed to be making the biop?
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Have you ever dreamt as them? Sometimes I'll wake up
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: and I'll be like, that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Wasn't one of my dreams.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: That was Rebecca's.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: Yes, and you're too close.
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: I formed Blink qanity four. I got so inspired, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: started getting so close. I thought so close I should
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: create my own modern pop punk, new metal hybrid band.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Now, who assumes you at that point? Is that now
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Blink one eighty three is closer to the authorship or
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Blink one eighty two.
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: I'm being sued by the subjects of the biopic as
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: well as Blink Uantity two.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Well they banded together.
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: Yes, I've lawsuits against me while I'm trying to celebrate
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: this man and his band.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a it's criminal.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I just I.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: For a long time, I considered giving up the business.
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: I think we have a song. Didn't you write one
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: called like?
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: Exactly how old am I this time?
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Exactly? I did write Let's play it? I'd love to hear.
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, now, exactly how old am I this time?
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Last time? I was younger.
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: This time I'm not to get my age.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know it. Please tell me my age.
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: On the Rhode Island.
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: Express Way, there was a mysterious thing happening. There was
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: a road going somewhere. You never expected road to go
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: road Island.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: What's my age? Wait, Rhode Island.
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: So I think he's just stuck on that road.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Rhode Island has.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: A road.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Island a d interesting in there which is no one
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: knows where the road goes. Now that's interesting. Where does
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: the road go?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, well that was a little bit of what
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: I would call artistic license because the road definitely goes
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: to Providence.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: But didn't done.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: God, we looked so hot, Jeremy.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: Do you think there's a.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Reason why I can't figure it out? Maybe I have
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: one idea though. It's merch.
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: Get our exclusive waa wait, winter Beanie.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Get our exclusive sweatshirt. Yeah, we also have hats and tots,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: so much fun stuff.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: We saw merch. It's real, all of it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: Go buy it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: We'll put the link in the bible right now.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, just sort of the feeling of we don't.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: You just get that drum sample?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: O god, it is incredible.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Good, thank you, thank you. It's a sample from the
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: song all the Small Things.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yes, I.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Think I hear it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Do you feel like you get too close to Tait?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I am too close to Tate. I am Tate pilled,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I am absolute, I am tated out the wazoo. I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: am in every single concert, bopping along. I know every word.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: Well, sounds like a fan.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling like her biggest fan.
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: I means her in the vein of Tate mccrana yourself,
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: because you're so inspired.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to be honest, I have to see
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: where her head's at. And because she's so young, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: kind of have to predict where she will go because
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: right now she's in her you know, dancing sort of
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: like sexy like shaking sort of like a dancing kind
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: of vibe. And eventually can she is going to get
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: to another place in her career? How will she evolve?
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus started quite young.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: That's another woman, Yes, another woman.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I can name all kinds of women. Rosa Parks, Michelle Obama.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: There is Swiers spoo.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Really interesting biopic subjects.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean there. I've been in those biopic
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: auctions to get the rights to people like that, where
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: you bid on the rights to be the direct person
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: are so crazy.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: The d GA. If you haven't heard of these things,
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: we have to go to the d g A. I mean,
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: you guys, what do you think I'm doing.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: I'm stuck with Rebecca auctions.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Because you got out bid for Laura Dern and with
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: so much money on Laura Dorn because I wanted to
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: do let's done this.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: And these auctions are so wild because the subject walks
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: out like it's like a weird high school fundraiser date charity.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: It's so sad when they don't even get their first
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: off and they're starting two hundred thousand.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: Auction.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: It was rough for just taboo walked up out there
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: without the black guy who is I would have done it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: I got a black eye at the Luigian oh over
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: that one.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: That was crazy.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, I'm trying to think who else? I
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: think I saw all of you there, one of them? Yeah,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: but god, I spent so much money bidding for Laura
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Durned because I wanted Laura to play Laura.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: That's the thing about these auctions. You submit the money,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: they take the money, so it's not like a bid.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: They take every bid.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: Use a different word than.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a store.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: But you can't walk away with it if it's not
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: the highest bid. It's ridiculous.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous ridiculousness.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: Now did you how much did you pay for rold Decks?
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Three hundred dollars? Wow?
• 50:45
  Speaker 12: Wow?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So Rob deer Deck is being played by a little lizard.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It's not the great Mocab actor. His name is Jonathan
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: first name, Okay, it's a stage name. He's trying.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: He's like, he's like kind of done with stage.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Like this is sort of a reverse stage name. It
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: sounds similar to a John Doe or a Jane Doe.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: He's like he's got a TikTok following he's very big.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: What's he's big?
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: What does he do?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: He goes like, I'm Jonathan first name only then he
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: kind of does these poses. He's from Sri Lanka. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: think really family, his family is great. What's up?
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: What do you?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: What are you thinking over there?
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Eggman? Is he going to be at the auction?
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: No, you don't.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: You cannot steal Jonathan first name story because he's my
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: actor right now.
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: Sounds like an interesting story.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I'll take him.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a great interesting story. His family moved
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: from Sri Lanka to America. He changed his name from
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: something else to Jonathan first name. He won't tell me
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: his real name. He got first, got into the mob.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: He had a fight, He had to fight his way
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to the middle of the mob, got excommunicated from the mob.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: They were going to kill him, but one guy left
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: let him go because he believed in him so much.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: He said, look, you were never here, change your name,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: get out of this city. He moved to Hollywood, changed
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: his name to a real name, Jonathan first name, which
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: she goes by and now he's in my movie. Yeah,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting story. But what it's more interesting?
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: How about Rob Deer deck in a blimp.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Shooting a TV show.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Called Gorgeous Limpin Limpin'. Yeah, so what happens. It's kind
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: of like a game show. It's like a really fun
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: like who who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Or like Jeopardy.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Let you get the wrong question wrong, You're flung out
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: of your chair out of the blimp and you have
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to pull your parachute.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, you're playing blimpin playing Gorgeous. Yeah, so he's great.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: Remember Robin Big Yeah, I had his shoes.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: We haven't figured out how to put that in the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: show in the movie, but we're going to kind of
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: beginning of.
• 52:54
  Speaker 14: Everything you pressia this year, Yeah, before the Oscars, the
• 53:02
  Speaker 14: Oscar buzz. I think that's why we all picked right now.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: And it's these buzz it's the buzz about these current
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: biopics that always seeds the interest for how the next
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: batch of biopics.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: Everybody says it's always Oscar baity too.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: You know, people love saying biop tragic story exception.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: You can make a bad one.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's what what lends itself to them is
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: a toll divorce performance. And that's why I think they're
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: so easy for oscar bait. Right, That's why, even especially
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: with like little kids, you give breakout roles, so many
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: young breakout talent comes from biopics.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: Absolutely such a highlight of them.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: It's also such a the oscar bait because when an
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: actor tries too hard.
• 53:48
  Speaker 15: To actually do an impression of the person, Right, I
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: instruct all my actors and all my sound nothing like
• 53:55
  Speaker 15: the subject.
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: You absolutely the opposite of what it is.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: You know, you've got a clip of Tom Hanks in
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: slow mode doing a different choice.
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: You call him Tom Hank.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: We're friends, okay, Rebecca, every little bit, just Rebecca's.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: Use this last name. You just have to use all.
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: But wait, you have the clip? Is that what you said?
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: We have the clip of him, a little clip from
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: your biopic?
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Rightes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd love to do you want
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to explain what see we're about to?
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: So, like I said, this is all in extreme slow
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: motion where he realizes it's not a viable idea to
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: form this band since one already exists.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So right at the end, extreme slow motion.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch and play.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Push.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: You would not believe your eyes?
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: Ten million fireflies, the fallous.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that was an amazing great right, gorgeous and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the music is regular pace. Yes, the soundtrack by Our
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: City is all.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Let's talk, the sound of our people, the sound of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the biopep Our City a great band.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: Right, beautiful and in direct contrast to what's happening in
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: the actual scenes. Yes, because because of course the thing
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: is about someone's dreams not coming true.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: But the song is inspiring.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: It's about not believe in your eyes.
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: It's gorgeous contrast.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Believe in your eyes.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: No, you don't want to believe in your eyes, because
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: if I believed my eyes, I'd assume that there were
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: five talk and strawberries right in front.
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: Of me.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Tapes.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: Believe it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: This room is full of teeth, There is blood everywhere.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Five strawberries are trying to get me to come to
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: tea and I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: So you can't believe everything your eyes are saying.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: It's true.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Over there trying to get me to have a merry Christmas.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Who does this guy think he fucking is God, it
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: smells like burning goddamn toast. We can't be talking about
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: our eyes.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: I just want to to Alicia bath More Pink for
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: doing the music for them, and I'll do my.
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: Shout out a Bony Bear. I'm obsessed with you. Every
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: day we work together was just life changing.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: And I'll big my big shout out.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Patrick Stump from Fallout Boy has gone in a different
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: direction and will not be doing.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: A shout out.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give a shout out to the three uh,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the three singers who I have contracted to do the music.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Should Tait his career follow the path of any of
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: these women. So we've got Reba McIntyre as a possibility,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Britney Spears is a possibility, and then we also have
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: col as a possibility.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: So no Tate mcray music and your McGray.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Oh well, she's gonna do a little bit.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll seem like a big fan.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: I love her and I love what I've committed to
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: and I'm can't get out of it. I've signed a
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: bajillion year contract.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Can I ask you as a question that's been bugging me?
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: This question would bugging me forever.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: What is it if eggs are real.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: No, what is it If I crack a scrambled egg
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: in the pan? Are you gonna call me a liar?
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: You did?
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I think you guys have even lost the thread of
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: the of the argument.
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: Your argument is that eggs have never existed?
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Isn't even a debate?
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: You can't believe.
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: I have to say this so plainly.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: I believe that Humpty Dumpty did not exist as in
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: a corporal form, and he's a story because I've read
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: the Mother Goose transcripts.
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: I've read what she wrote.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, not everything. I don't exist in a corporal form.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I'm dead. What Yeah, I died in a car crash.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Oh my god. She's just doing the question that I
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: have had. I've just really wanted to know what you
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: guys think. How do you pronounce it? Is it biopick
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: or biopic?
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: It depends on the movie for me.
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: And what's the difference?
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: It depends right, if you're telling the story of how
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: a brave, drug obsessed girl brought Macha to Los Angeles
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: obsess I've.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Never heard that those words in success. Brave.
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: She has like a pro addiction scene. Drug obsessed, rug obsessed.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: Boldly was opened about loving drugs. I'd tell you call
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: it a biopic because that's her bio.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: A biopic to me sometimes goes out further than the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: person's work, and it goes further than their life in
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: my head.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: So not an example, got it? Well?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, no no, no, Bob is making us
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: called a biopicky dicky because he kind of loves to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: do that with words. So it's like a biopic that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: you kind of freaking make silly, make rad make wild
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: a biopicky dicky. He just wants it to never stop
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and never say anything bad and just be positive and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: love and fun and work hard. He wants this biopic
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to work hard, be good.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Guy.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's exhausting but fun. You can never figure out.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: He's always like, let's meet meet me here, always in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: a new place, and it's always somewhere fun.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: What size is the font of these emails?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Huge?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You know how Google Gmail has large? He even raises
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: it from that his meat here type into Google this
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: is what is this? An old electric factory? He's like, Okay,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: today we're gonna be working on the biopic, but maybe
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: we'll also be figuring out if we can bring electricity back. Yeah,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: he's kind of crazy like that.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: Do you call it.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 16: Or no, it's I've always said b I op pick
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 16: b I because you've never said that this whole always
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 16: every time I say it, I said quickly or you heard.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: Me, But you must have been just like thinking about
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: eggs being not really.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: Just has no teeth, Like it's just so weird that
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: you guys are pushing.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: She has no teeth.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: She has this room is full of damn teeth.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: God.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Production has to do something about this anyway, So many
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: You know, it's see to me, it's always it is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: a biographical information overload if you want to cram the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: most amount of information into a long film about the subject.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Which is so interesting because I would say your film
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: crams no information a very long time.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Would you say that.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: It's quite critical and judgmental, but I would say that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of information is being conveyed subconsciously to the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: cinematic medium more than anything.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I loved your last film.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: I think it was so special. Thank you Films.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Oh that was good.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: Yes, that was a thirty six hour multi part documentary
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 9: about the first customer of Cuckoo.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: It's a beautiful story.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: A story.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, I'll give it a try.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I watched that one I do you think some there
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: was a kernel in me that was like, I want
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: to start making movies and biopics about people that don't
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: really matter, and that might be why I bid from Miranda,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Like and in the grand scheme of things, You're like,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: oh no, this person does matter, right, Like, yeah, it's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: it inspired my work.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: I always say history is written in the shadows.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: So what are you working on next?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Everyone?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: I want to know what everyone's working on. Yes, yes, yes, please,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: Well we're in early talks right now. Of course it's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: another biopic because that.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Is my passion.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: Started saying like that. Now I've been saying that I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: feel I truly feel like I'm being pranks. Go ahead,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: I'm so excited about this.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Well, this time I want to go in another direction.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: You know, I've I've done the musical, bio biopic, I've
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: done the other ones. Now I want to I want
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: to explore what it's like to do a subject that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: is dark, that is very, very dark, and what is
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: that it is about the founding.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Of the Rhode Island Expressway. What's dark?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: About it, the founding of it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: It's just there's you know, city commissions getting together and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: the eight having to go through a lot of bureaucratic
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: red tape.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: This seems like a city planning.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: It sounds like you just drove on a highway at
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: night once to freak you up.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: We get a little high, a little confused.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: A little.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: Anyone would be freaked out by the haunted spectrum of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: this asphalt road peeling beneath you mile after mile, the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: silence of Rhode Islands kd f M playing on your radio.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: M it's a very common station.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Well that'll be so much better, that'll be so much
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: amazing story.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: In done right. Yeah, I can't wait. I got Jillian
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: Jacobs to do it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Julian Jacobs. That's a great community.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: Yes, very talent.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: So sarcastic her, Oh.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she's doing a sarcastic basis. She's doing such a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: sarcastic Betsy, what's next for you?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I this group of French orphans who is
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: blowing up my email asking me to do a documentary
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: about how they escaped a well, and I eventually, if
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: this tape thing doesn't shape up in the next like
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: ten years or so if we haven't founded a clear
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: take on it. Yeah, well she just has to have
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: her life experiences and it's so valid. I will be
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: responding to that email, and I will be making a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: documentary that no doubt earned some awards. But for now,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I am just trying to figure out why all these
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: dancing oranges are trying to offer me money. I mean,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: production has to get a grip on this is insane.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: I thought this was a union shoot.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely nothing about this is union.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: I'm very excited.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Once we wrap the Ridiculouslessness story, we are going right
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: into It's Bananas, the Johnny Banana story, Johnny Bananas being
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the star of Real World, the challenge. He has got
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a life that is bound to be explored.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: I also on Deadline, you got Ryan Shecklers.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I got Ryan Shecklers, like Frights, Travis and Travis Preshona's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I'm cleaning up right now?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: Is that kind of a group on situation?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: You got one to get them all, you got one
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: to get them all.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to tell their stories of how
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: hardship is basically not landing a trick. That's what real
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: hardship is. You can't do it pop Shove at three
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: sixty when you're six, but you work through it. And
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: these are films that are working hard. These are films
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: that are raised right. These are films at ARCNNA party
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: and play hard, work hard, play hard, no want to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: take a break.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: And these are films that are going to push the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: limit of what you think is possible.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: Is really rubbed off on you.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Great, He's rubbed off of me in so many ways.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: He wakes me up in the morning, we go on
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a jog at five am. He gets to work. He's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: sending emails. He's sending emails. The guy is never receiving,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: only sending such big ideas. I'm so excited to see
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: what happens now. So I love you, Rob reach out
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: to me. You know my email, and.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: I'm going to see you tonight. Awesome.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to meet me at the place where
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: water meets the road.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: That saying Rebecca invented, no, Miranda invented really fun.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to be sticking in the traditional storytelling
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: style and I'm gonna be going into fiction. I really
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: love We got to do these fantasy moments where we
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: would jump into the store worries in the biopics. So
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do a fucking Cinderella or whatever. What I'm
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: gonna do a fucking Cinderella. I'm just gonna do a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: take on a Cinderella. So I'm excited to see what
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: it is.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or whatever.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: I'm just gonna do a fucking Cinderella or something.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Does your version of Cinderella not believe that a hard
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: boiled egg exists?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: Nice?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 8: I don't know how this is being conflated, because you.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Know Cinderella the story. Half of the importance is that
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: hard bulls.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly hard for Cinderella to take a pumpkin to the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: ball if she doesn't believe in hard boil.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Where do you draw the line?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Where do you draw the line?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Where are you going draw the line? I know my
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: mentor this morning from Afi and I said, remember remember
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: what I said? I was hoping. I was like, the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: secret's been working. I've been manifesting and I get to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: meet my hero.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: You're following Oprah's the secret. No was that hers.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Oprah did claim kind of the secret, but you know
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: this Australian woman invented it. I'm manifesting so important, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: this was my moment. So I really appreciate you guys
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: kind of being so mean to me. It's gonna be
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: great for my story. I'm going up in the auction
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: next week.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: What's your story called? Breakfast Denier?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Breakfast deny, Those don't exist.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: Humpty Dumpty wasn't real. He's going to stay a fucking wall,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: so walls exist.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: He sat on a wall and it was real. It happened,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Can you deny it?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: He took it great fall, yeah, a grateful a bunch
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: of falls, like a amount.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 17: Of grateful, a big rise and fall, and all the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 17: king's horses and all the king's men could not put
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 17: Humpty together again.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I know it's in my movie. I know the story,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: and you don't even believe him.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, fine, I've been scared to say that exists, because
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: if he exists, then what's gonna stop other eggs from existing?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Like that?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: If we deny, if we if we accept that there
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: was a big egg that lives, that means there's other
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: big eggs that still lives.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: And that's where you'll buy a back start where the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: movie starts going from there.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Eggs, I must find the living eggs can you imagine that.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: To a vagina? And you're wondering how I got here?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Scary the Dumpty Dumpty biopic. Then he cut forward to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: his childhood. He's being bullied a lot. People are like,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this guy is an egg.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: He doesn't belong, he doesn't belong.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Get over, get over yourself, Get over the wall, Get
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: over the wall.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: And then he falls off the wall. He falls off
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: the wall, and his mentor, a bigger egg standing nearby, goes, wait,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Again, And as he cracks lion pieces, you hear I
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  Speaker 1: know how, you know how it ended, But do you
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  Speaker 1: know how it?
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  Speaker 8: Cut to his mother he's seven years old. Hey, Richard,
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  Speaker 8: get off that wall.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna fall one day and no one's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: there to put you back together.
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  Speaker 3: Sepia tone later later movie, later the future. The crowd
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  Speaker 3: is going wild. They're waiting at the wall, waiting for
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: him to do it again.
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  Speaker 9: Do it again.
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  Speaker 3: They're screaming, do it, do it four.
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  Speaker 1: He sits with all of his friends and goes, one
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  Speaker 1: of you will betray me, one of you will make
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  Speaker 1: me fall off.
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  Speaker 15: The pen across the faces of all of his friends,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 15: all of them shaking their head.
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  Speaker 1: They love him, until right at the end we see
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: the last friend.
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  Speaker 9: Judeggg is um lariat.
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  Speaker 3: Me were the eggs of based.
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  Speaker 7: On a true story coming to Feta.
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  Speaker 9: Is this fall?
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  Speaker 3: You would not believe your eyes if ten million humpty dumpties.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I always saw myself as a really big egg artist.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: Answer the question. No, That's why they call it show business.
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  Speaker 9: No, he's peddling, He's pedaling. Come on.
• 1:12:26
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