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Speaker 1: Good is the report?
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi sends his most senior Jewish minister to Israel
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Speaker 2: to mend relations.
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Speaker 3: But does he seriously think that will repair what damage
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Speaker 3: has been done to the community.
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Speaker 2: Day two of the Prime Minister's unofficial election campaign and
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Speaker 2: he can't stop snapping at reporters. Why is he so angry?
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Speaker 2: The failed Andrew Giles experiment strikes again. Will tell you
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Speaker 2: why the former Immigration Minister's disastrous handling of violent detainees
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Speaker 2: has come back to haunt him and the poster boy
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Speaker 2: for the woke resigns will look at Canadian Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau's disastrous legacy. But first, the Albenese government is
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Speaker 2: desperately playing catch up when it comes to Israel. It's
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Speaker 2: now resorted to hollow political gestures before the election, and
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Speaker 2: only because there is an election around the corner. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is a government which has dragged its heels for
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Speaker 2: fifteen months on Israel and anti Semitism. It's abandoned Jewish Australians,
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Speaker 2: allowed anti jurishcent sentiment to flourish, sold out our values
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Speaker 2: for votes. At the United Nations and one praise from
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Speaker 2: Humus in the process, and so now unsurprising, the polls
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Speaker 2: are bad. They show the public views Albanezi as weak,
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Speaker 2: and Albo comes up.
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Speaker 3: With a bright idea. Here's what we'll do.
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Speaker 2: Here's an idea on how to fix and mend relations
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Speaker 2: with the Jewish community which has been dragged through the
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Speaker 2: mud since twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Send Attorney General.
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Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfuss to Israel, get him to saw out the relationship,
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Speaker 2: and surely that'll get everything back on track.
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Speaker 1: We have people regularly visit.
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Speaker 4: Our friends, and Mark Dreyfus is visiting. He had there
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Speaker 4: was previously a scheduled visit that wasn't able to go ahead.
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Speaker 4: So Mark Dreyfus will be visiting. He'll be there for
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Speaker 4: around about a week, and we've publicly put out that announcement.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't set this up as a very convincing visit,
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Speaker 2: does it. Does Albanese seriously think we have forgotten about
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Speaker 2: his betrayal of Israel, like the last fifteen months never happened,
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Speaker 2: that he can just send Mark Dreyfus, his most senior
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Speaker 2: Jewish minister, over to Israel and all would be forgotten.
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Speaker 2: How stupid does he think we are. Mark Dreyfus is Jewish,
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Speaker 2: but I would ask what has he done in the
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Speaker 2: last fifteen months. What has he said publicly after every
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic attack in this country, happening in his own community.
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Speaker 2: When has Mark Dreyfus come out publicly and said enough
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Speaker 2: is enough? What has he done to quell the fears
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Speaker 2: and concerns of Jewish Australians.
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Speaker 3: Not much.
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Speaker 2: He's not publicly said whether Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netyahoo
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Speaker 2: would be arrested if he was to set foot in
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Speaker 2: this country as per the International Criminal Court's warrant.
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Speaker 3: And he is the Attorney General he should know.
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Speaker 2: And in that role he's done nothing when it comes
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Speaker 2: to enforcing laws around hate preachers and those who incite
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Speaker 2: hate and violence towards Jews. But he's ducked and weaved
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Speaker 2: and avoided his own responsibilities.
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Speaker 1: That's all.
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Speaker 2: Despite before the last election in twenty twenty one, Mark
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Speaker 2: Dreyfus told the Jewish community that Labor has not committed
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Speaker 2: to recognizing a Palestinian state. Instead, he stood there like
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Speaker 2: a spectator with the rest of the Labor cabinet life
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Speaker 2: cowards but for some reason, Albo thinks that this is
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Speaker 2: the man to go to Israel to make peace and
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Speaker 2: improve relations which have been destroyed by Labor. Now that's
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Speaker 2: not to say privately, maybe he's shared a different opinion.
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Speaker 2: He did plan to travel there for the October seven anniversary,
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Speaker 2: but that was canceled. Maybe he does disagree with Labour's stance.
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Speaker 2: But where is the moral conscious If you truly love
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Speaker 2: your community, you would act on that.
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Speaker 3: The onus is.
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Speaker 2: On people like Mark Dreyfus to speak publicly, to speak
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Speaker 2: up for their own community.
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Speaker 3: But he's not done that, and.
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Speaker 2: You can't just send him over there just because he's Jewish.
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Speaker 2: It's insulting and this really sums up the sentiment of
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Speaker 2: the community to that announcement.
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Speaker 5: I think we have been really let down by our
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Speaker 5: federal government, and we do have to ask why our
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Speaker 5: attorney general is being sent Why isn't our foreign minister,
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Speaker 5: all our prime minister making the visit to mend relationships.
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Speaker 5: It's really not fair to make the Attorney General the
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Speaker 5: de facto minister for Jews.
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Speaker 2: Well, firstly, nobody can repair the damage Albo and Wong
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Speaker 2: have done, but that is the question of play. Why
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Speaker 2: has Anthony Albanezi still not traveled to Israel himself?
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Speaker 3: Now, if Australia were.
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Speaker 2: Serious, genuinely serious about mending that relationship, it's got to come.
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Speaker 3: From the top. The Prime Minister of the country should
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Speaker 3: be going.
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Speaker 2: Instead, he's sending someone else over there to do his
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Speaker 2: dirty work. And that question was asked today.
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Speaker 6: Shouldn't it you be you and the Foreign Minister going
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Speaker 6: over there to mend relations with Israel?
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Speaker 4: The Foreign Minister has visited Israel already. The Attorney General
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Speaker 4: is an appropriate person to visit Israel. A range of
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Speaker 4: others have visited Israel in recent time.
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Speaker 2: No, Prime Minister, you're wrong. You should have gone a
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Speaker 2: lot long time ago. Israel is a long standing ally
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Speaker 2: of this country and it's been abandoned. And as for
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Speaker 2: Penny Wong, well, she didn't even have the nerve nor
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Speaker 2: the courage to visit the sites of the October seven massacre.
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Speaker 2: She went there for a box ticking exercise. To not
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Speaker 2: travel to the sites of the biggest loss of life
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Speaker 2: since the Holocaust.
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Speaker 3: Was incredibly disrespectful.
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Speaker 2: And let's not forget this is what the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: said about that at the time.
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Speaker 4: Penny Wong's itinery is a matter for.
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Speaker 7: Her.
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Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you what.
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Speaker 4: I don't do is have a precise itinery of all
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Speaker 4: of five ministers.
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Speaker 3: It tells you all you need to know.
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Speaker 2: In the days after the massacre, as the world watched
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Speaker 2: on in horror, while women were being raped, while terrorists
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Speaker 2: were holding hostages and still are, Pennywong declared Israel should
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Speaker 2: exercise restraint. Well, thank goodness Benjamin Netta who ignored Pennywong.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise Israel would have been overrun by terrorists a long time.
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Speaker 3: Ago, it would have been destroyed.
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Speaker 2: And yet she still voted with the UN for Palestinian statehood,
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Speaker 2: rewarding terror, inviting terror, and emboldening terrorists. When have they
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Speaker 2: demanded her must stop attacking Israel?
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Speaker 3: I haven't.
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Speaker 2: So what is the point of Mark Dreyfus going now?
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Speaker 2: Because the horse has well and truly bolted. Actions speak
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Speaker 2: louder than announcements. Israel has been shown Labour's cards already
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Speaker 2: at every opportunity. Labor hasn't sided with Israel, It's sided
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Speaker 2: with terrorism. This is nothing more than a hollow political
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Speaker 2: gesture before the election, and Albo is desperately trying to
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Speaker 2: catch up the sad part is once again, it's all
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Speaker 2: at the expense of Jewish Australians. Let's bring in Liberal
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Speaker 2: Senator Dave Sharma. Now, Senator, good to see you. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. As I said just then,
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Speaker 2: the horse is well and truly bolted on this. What
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Speaker 2: do you make of this plan now to send Mark
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Speaker 2: Drafus over to mend relations.
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Speaker 9: Well, I don't think it's anything more than a pre
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Speaker 9: election gimmick or a stunt Tanika. I mean Anthony Alberansi
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Speaker 9: took five weeks to speak to Benjamin Ettina, who after
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Speaker 9: the seventh of October hamas Terrist attack. Penny Wong took
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Speaker 9: four months and had to be dragged kicking and screaming
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Speaker 9: to go and visit Israel, and then she insulted them
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Speaker 9: by refusing to go to the side of the massacres
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Speaker 9: in the South. You know, we've had this government do
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Speaker 9: more damage to this relationship with Israel than I've ever
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Speaker 9: seen in my entire diplomatic career, and I worked for
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Speaker 9: labor governments when I was stationed in Israel. This is
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Speaker 9: you know, this is unprecedented, that harm this is done.
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Speaker 9: If Anthony Aberzi thinks he can by sending the most
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Speaker 9: senior Jewish men of his government go and patch everything up,
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Speaker 9: all the damage he's done, all the damage Pennywong has done,
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Speaker 9: all the vitriolic attacks they've made, all the harmful votes
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Speaker 9: in the United Nations system. If they think a visit
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Speaker 9: by a Jewish Australian is something going amend things, they
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Speaker 9: are sorely misled.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because I had members of the
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Speaker 2: Jewish community reach out to me today saying how big
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Speaker 2: of a joke this is, and they were really angry.
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Speaker 2: They said to me that this is not actually going
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Speaker 2: to mend relations which has been so damaged by Albanesi
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Speaker 2: and Wong. It's too far gone now, Senator, this is
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Speaker 2: the problem. This is the issue that Labor has created
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Speaker 2: in its own backyard.
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Speaker 9: I think that's absolutely right. It looks tokenistic, it looks
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Speaker 9: too little, too late. Bear in mind Mark Draffis has
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Speaker 9: the portfolio of Attorney General. This is not normally someone
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Speaker 9: who you would be sending on foreign affairs. But Penny
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Speaker 9: Wong is obviously effectively persona non grata and Israel would
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Speaker 9: be no point sending here unless they wanted to do
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Speaker 9: further damage to the relationship. So this is who they're
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Speaker 9: left with. But I would suggest if they want to
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Speaker 9: get the relationship in better repair, one start taking anti
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Speaker 9: Semitism seriously. Two restored by partisanship to our support for
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Speaker 9: Israel's right to exist in peace and security and a
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Speaker 9: negotiated two state solution. And three stopped with the gratuitous
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Speaker 9: criticism of Israel at every turn, rather than calling for
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Speaker 9: the hostages released to be released, which is what would
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Speaker 9: bring this conflict to an end.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And you know, the Prime Minister was today asked why
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Speaker 2: he nor Penny Wong are going. Well, as you said,
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Speaker 2: Penny Wong went over there only because she was kicking
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Speaker 2: and screaming. But the question has to be our senator,
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Speaker 2: why has our Prime minister not gone to Israel yet?
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's a genuine mistake that he is not.
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Speaker 9: I mean look after the same of the October Joe
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Speaker 9: Biden traveled there. He was there within days of the
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Speaker 9: seventh of October terrorist attack. Rishis Sunak. Then UK Prime
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Speaker 9: Minister visited, Emmanuel Macron visited, the French President. I love Schultz,
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Speaker 9: the German Chancellor, I mean almost you know, the Ursula
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Speaker 9: Vondelaida and the European Commission, President, Japanese Prime Minister, countless
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Speaker 9: world leaders visited. Not only did Alberze not visit, it
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Speaker 9: took him eight weeks to put a phone call into
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Speaker 9: net and Yahoo. The very first public reaction of this
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Speaker 9: government was not to condemn the loss of life, condemned
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Speaker 9: the horrific terroist attack. It was to call on Israel
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Speaker 9: to restrain itself. That was Penny Wong's tweet on the
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Speaker 9: night of the seventh of October Terroist attack. I mean,
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Speaker 9: at every step of the way, I think they've intentionally
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Speaker 9: sought to damage this relationship, to insult Israel, to harm
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Speaker 9: our national interests, all because their own political base, the Greens,
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Speaker 9: who put them under pressure in the inner city seats,
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Speaker 9: parts of their community of votes for them in outer
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Speaker 9: suburban seats. They're all about appeasing that base.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very clear. It's been very clear for the
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Speaker 2: last fifteen months. I just want to ask you about
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism as well. We've seen a number of incidents
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Speaker 2: in the last few days in Sydney's areas.
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Speaker 3: Where they do have a higher Jewish population.
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Speaker 2: I know many of these areas you hold dearly yourself.
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Speaker 2: When at what point do we say enough is enough?
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Speaker 2: You know, I watched a video of a Jewish woman
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Speaker 2: in tears yesterday over one of the incidents that happened,
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Speaker 2: and your.
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Speaker 3: Heart goes out to these communities.
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Speaker 2: But this is the fear that they're living in every
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Speaker 2: single day, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: They are?
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Speaker 9: And you have to remember, I mean there were you know,
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Speaker 9: just in the East and so the Sydney there was
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Speaker 9: the car being graffited over night, I think all the
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Speaker 9: night before. There have been two instances of cars being
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Speaker 9: fire bombed in the past two months. Its that synagogue
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Speaker 9: fire bombed in Melbourne. I think it's been allowed to
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Speaker 9: run unchecked and as a result, this community is is
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Speaker 9: living in fear. I was pleased to see that someone
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Speaker 9: is facing cord and has been arrested in connection with
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Speaker 9: harassing to Jews outside a place a synagogue on the
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Speaker 9: north shore of Sydney. But we need to be seeing
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Speaker 9: far more of that quick prompt police action, throwing the
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Speaker 9: book at these people so they get the message that
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Speaker 9: this sort of behavior targeting, villifying, intimidating a group of
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Speaker 9: fellow Australians simply on account of the faith they hold,
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Speaker 9: has no place in Australia, and we have been the
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Speaker 9: government has been way too slow in delivering that message
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Speaker 9: and way too keen to just try and hope the
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Speaker 9: whole issue goes away. It's not going away. We need
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Speaker 9: stronger leadership from our government.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and yet here we are today. It's just unfathomable.
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Speaker 2: Dave Shalma, really good to have you on the program.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
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Speaker 2: this evening. Well, there is plenty of other news around today.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Nick Cat from the Menzies Research Center. Nick,
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Speaker 2: nice to see you, Thank you for joining me. Let's
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Speaker 2: start with nuclear energy, because another day, another scare campaign
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Speaker 2: by Anthony Alberzi. Let's take a look at this latest
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Speaker 2: line from his press conference today.
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Speaker 4: The only policy that they have put forward is of course,
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Speaker 4: their so called nuclear plan. But the local senator here,
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Speaker 4: Matt Canavan, build the cat when he said that it
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Speaker 4: was just a political fix, that nuclear didn't really add up,
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Speaker 4: It wasn't the most cheapest form of energy that could
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Speaker 4: be used, and it was just part of a fix
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Speaker 4: to get the coalition through an election campaign. Well it's
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Speaker 4: a fix that will cost the Australian economy Nick.
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Speaker 2: It's almost as if the Prime Minister is trialing these
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Speaker 2: new lines. He's launched his quasi unofficial election campaign. It
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Speaker 2: is trotting them out to sort of see how it goes.
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Speaker 2: To me, it just sounds completely desperate.
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Speaker 3: Again, how do.
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Speaker 1: You view this.
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Speaker 8: Well, I hope he is trialing lines.
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Speaker 7: I hope that's not his finish line, because do you
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Speaker 7: think that's going to pass the pub test? I mean,
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Speaker 7: can you actually tell me what he actually said?
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: I think what's happening is that the opposition the government
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Speaker 8: know they're in big, big trouble with their renewable only scheme.
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Speaker 8: It is putting upward pressure on power prices. They don't
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Speaker 8: even know that they can deliver it because of the
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Speaker 8: cost of wind is blowing out, the cost of offshore
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Speaker 8: wind is blowing out, the cost of batteries, the cost
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Speaker 8: of transmission lines the community, so that they're in real
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Speaker 8: trouble on this. And I think that they've just seized
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Speaker 8: on Peter Dutton's sensible announcement on nuclear just to try
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Speaker 8: and distract attention. So you know, they're saying, what was
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Speaker 8: the latest figure, I don't know about five trillion dollars
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Speaker 8: or whatever. Jim Chalmers says that the opposition's plan is
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Speaker 8: going to cost Do these people have any credibility, Janita
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Speaker 8: on the question of the cost of energy. This is
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Speaker 8: the same mob who three years ago, we're telling you
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Speaker 8: you're our bills were going to come down by two
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Speaker 8: hundred and seventy five dollars by twenty twenty five, which
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Speaker 8: is this year, So you know it is I think
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Speaker 8: you're right desperate, they've run out of arguments. They know
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Speaker 8: that the nuclear argument is cutting through simply because people
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Speaker 8: just want cheaper power bills.
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Speaker 3: But this is a thing.
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Speaker 2: You know, we need a plan nick in this country
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Speaker 2: to keep the lights on, and we don't because we
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Speaker 2: know that the rollout's happening back to front. We're closing
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Speaker 2: coal firepower and try to desperately rush out renewables. But
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Speaker 2: as voters, we deserve an adult and proper debate on
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Speaker 2: how we're going to keep the lights on in this country.
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Speaker 2: Yet labor will not give voters that opportunity. They run
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Speaker 2: these scare campaigns, and we have a right to say
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Speaker 2: this is what we want in this country.
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Speaker 8: Well, exactly right, And look, I think they are underestimating
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Speaker 8: in fact, being they patronizing towards ordinary Australians who actually
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Speaker 8: get this stuff. Broken Hill, for instance, I was in
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Speaker 8: Broken Hill recently to investigate the power cut that happened there.
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Speaker 8: There were two weeks they were off the grid because
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Speaker 8: one power line came down. They're across this, they know
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Speaker 8: the detail. They know that the battery that was supposed
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Speaker 8: to kick in didn't kick in for another eight days.
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Speaker 8: They know that the wind, the wind farm and the
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Speaker 8: solar farm there were just switched off the grid completely.
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Speaker 8: They know that without baseload power we're in trouble. And
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Speaker 8: this is what the government has missed. It's sort of
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Speaker 8: dismissed baseload powers something old fashioned and we don't necessarily
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Speaker 8: needed any more. I'll tell you what we do.
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Speaker 7: Every country in the world, every developed country, every country
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Speaker 7: with an energy grid that works, has a baseload component
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Speaker 7: to it. So we just can't simply get rid of
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Speaker 7: coal without another baseload component, and the most sensible one
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Speaker 7: for Australia obviously is nuclear.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's just such a shame we can't have a
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Speaker 2: proper debate on this matter. Now, Look, let's move on,
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Speaker 2: because the Washington Post is reporting that Donald Trump is
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Speaker 2: considering wheeling back his proposed tariffs.
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Speaker 3: Trump says that that report.
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Speaker 2: Is wrong, but Anthony Alberinezi is assuring everyone that either way,
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Speaker 2: the tariffs won't hurt Australia.
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Speaker 3: This is what he said.
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Speaker 4: The United States has had a trade surplus with Australia
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Speaker 4: since the Truman presidency, and therefore it is in the
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Speaker 4: United States interest for US to continue to implement the
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Speaker 4: free trade agreement, which has the support on a bipartisan
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Speaker 4: basis in the Australian Parliament.
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Speaker 2: Well, Nick, I guess he can't have any more fears
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Speaker 2: about the future of the economy.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 8: Let us see what Trump does with only another thirteen
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Speaker 8: more sleeps to go. If I've calculated the directly it
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Speaker 8: will be inaugurated as president. My take on this is
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Speaker 8: that Trump often uses the threat of tariffs really to
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Speaker 8: get other countries just to wake up.
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Speaker 3: The particular one I'm.
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Speaker 8: Thinking of is when he decided now he was going
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Speaker 8: to impose huge tariffs on Mexico and Canada like their
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Speaker 8: two biggest two of their biggest trading partners. They did,
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Speaker 8: and he did that simply linked it to immigration. He
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Speaker 8: didn't want illegal immigration, most of which of course comes
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Speaker 8: across the Mexican border, but a super different amount comes
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Speaker 8: across the board from Canada too. He wanted Trudeau to
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Speaker 8: wake up, and Trudeau responded.
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Speaker 7: By immediately flying down to marro Lago. So he got
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Speaker 7: the results he wanted. And I think that the actual
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Speaker 7: tarists will we should see. But I'd be very surprised
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Speaker 7: if he goes.
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Speaker 8: Ahead with the tariffs on Canada, particularly now Trudeau has resigned.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably celebrating that Trudeau has resigned. That was
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Speaker 2: certainly a long time coming in itself. Now, look, let's
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Speaker 2: talk more broadly about the economy. The Prime Minister and
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Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers say that it's improving and that inflation is down,
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Speaker 2: and they kept peddling this line, Nick, that the bad
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Speaker 2: days are behind us. Now it's not the lived experience
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Speaker 2: of ordinary Australia. But I saw this report this morning
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Speaker 2: in nine newspapers that a coffee company executive thinks if
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Speaker 2: you're paying less than seven dollars for coffee, you're getting
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Speaker 2: a bargain.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but seven.
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Speaker 7: Dollars, Nick, Yeah, that was an extraordinary useful article I
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Speaker 7: thought for the Herald. It doesn't usually produce anything that's
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Speaker 7: particularly useful. But you know, they broke down the cost
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Speaker 7: for a cup of coffee fifty six cents for the
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Speaker 7: actual coffee itself, fifty eight cents for the milk. Well,
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Speaker 7: I don't take milk, so I immediately want fifty eight
20:34
Speaker 7: cents off my next coffee when I turn up for one.
20:37
Speaker 7: But you know, it is it is interesting, labor, of
20:40
Speaker 7: course being a huge component. And we've all noticed over
20:43
Speaker 7: over the summer break, you know, when due when we
20:46
Speaker 7: have been penalties in place because it's been public.
20:49
Speaker 8: Holiday, how expensive it is.
20:52
Speaker 7: You know, suddenly you find yourself paying thirty bucks for
20:54
Speaker 7: two coffees and a couple of arm and croissant.
20:57
Speaker 8: It is just incredible. But that is the labor component,
21:00
Speaker 8: and so Charmers is wrong. Inflation is fueled by governments
21:05
Speaker 8: government spending. It's also fueled by regulation, and if you
21:09
Speaker 8: have these huge penalty agreements in place, then it will
21:13
Speaker 8: push up has to push up the cost of a
21:16
Speaker 8: cup of coffee. So Charmers is.
21:18
Speaker 7: Absolutely wrong, and people are getting this by the way
21:21
Speaker 7: that government spending is the most important component when it
21:25
Speaker 7: comes to inflation. That inflation begins in camera withment. The
21:30
Speaker 7: government spending.
21:31
Speaker 8: And if Charmers wants to take pressure off government spending,
21:35
Speaker 8: then he should come into his next budget and termine
21:37
Speaker 8: to get government expenders are back to reasonable levels, which
21:42
Speaker 8: is considerably lower than it is now.
21:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's government spending regulation, as he said, and
21:47
Speaker 2: not to mention, an out of control migration program is
21:49
Speaker 2: the only thing propping up this economy right now. Nick Catera,
21:53
Speaker 2: really good to speak with you. Thank you very much
21:54
Speaker 2: for joining me on the show this evening.
21:57
Speaker 3: Well, coming up.
21:58
Speaker 2: After the break, it's a make or break for labor.
22:01
Speaker 2: So why is Albanisi so angry?
22:04
Speaker 3: Will it swing the election? That's next? Well, welcome back
22:09
Speaker 3: to the program.
22:10
Speaker 2: Well, Anthony Albanesi has begun his pre election campaign in
22:14
Speaker 2: the Mining States, pledging money here, there and everywhere, but
22:18
Speaker 2: it seems like he hasn't quite yet mastered how to
22:22
Speaker 2: keep his call today demonstrating his short fuse with a
22:26
Speaker 2: reporter who asked him a very simple question, a question
22:29
Speaker 2: that we would all like to know about his promise
22:32
Speaker 2: to lower power bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
22:37
Speaker 6: It's time for you to concede that you're pledged to
22:40
Speaker 6: reduce electricity crisis by two hundred and seventy five dollars
22:43
Speaker 6: by this year. For whatever reasons, that's not going to happen.
22:47
Speaker 7: Is that fair?
22:47
Speaker 1: Well?
22:47
Speaker 4: One of the things that we did, of course was
22:50
Speaker 4: have three hundred dollars energy bill relief. The Queensland government
22:54
Speaker 4: under Steven Miles had one thousand dollars additional to that
22:57
Speaker 4: that was opposed by.
22:59
Speaker 3: The color That's not my question of fair that was
23:02
Speaker 3: a coalition.
23:02
Speaker 6: But the two hundred and seventy five dollars.
23:04
Speaker 7: I know that.
23:04
Speaker 1: But you get to do the questions.
23:06
Speaker 4: I get to do the answers. That's ally it works,
23:09
Speaker 4: and we have we have delivered that.
23:14
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very simple question. Where is that
23:16
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars? If you can't answer
23:18
Speaker 2: it now on the unofficial campaign, what's he going to
23:21
Speaker 2: be like during the official campaign?
23:24
Speaker 3: And even yesterday when he.
23:26
Speaker 2: Was asked about the slogan for his seven point two
23:28
Speaker 2: billion dollar Queensland Highway upgrade, Albert Easy once again lost
23:33
Speaker 2: his composure and claimed that the coalition had infiltrated the media.
23:40
Speaker 4: I'm going to see you're using the slogan build back better,
23:42
Speaker 4: did you pinch that from President Joe Bastin.
23:45
Speaker 1: We're not.
23:47
Speaker 7: That's not our slogan.
23:49
Speaker 11: Good try.
23:50
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which LMP member has sent you that
23:54
Speaker 4: question to ask, but they should pay attention and you
23:58
Speaker 4: should be cautious about just reading out things that are
24:01
Speaker 4: sent from the LMP.
24:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you know the polling is bad.
24:06
Speaker 2: Let's bring in tonight's panelist, LMPMP Henry Pike and a
24:10
Speaker 2: DOONI Media's at Lisa Goddard. Nice to see you both.
24:13
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining me on the program
24:15
Speaker 2: this evening.
24:16
Speaker 3: Henry will start with you.
24:17
Speaker 2: What does the Prime Minister's anger and snappiness over the
24:20
Speaker 2: last two days tell you.
24:25
Speaker 12: I don't think it's just been the last two days.
24:27
Speaker 12: This is the Prime minister that I'm used to seeing
24:29
Speaker 12: across the pass Representatives chamber. This is the exact sort
24:32
Speaker 12: of behavior he has whenever we ask a similar questions
24:35
Speaker 12: about that two undred and seventy five dollars reduction that
24:37
Speaker 12: he promised. This is a prime minister who does not
24:40
Speaker 12: like any criticism at all. He can't take it.
24:42
Speaker 7: He can't take.
24:43
Speaker 12: Any responsibility for the decisions or the claims that the
24:46
Speaker 12: government have made that they haven't been able to live
24:48
Speaker 12: up to and I think it's important that Australian's now
24:51
Speaker 12: seeing this side of him. And I wonder, if this
24:54
Speaker 12: is his behavior two days after the holiday, what's he
24:57
Speaker 12: going to be like in the height of the campaign
24:59
Speaker 12: fast f a few weeks time.
25:01
Speaker 2: Well, this is the problem, and you know he can't
25:03
Speaker 2: answer basic questions. In fact, this is a question we've
25:06
Speaker 2: been asking him for so long. Where is that two
25:08
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars day two of the unofficial campaign.
25:11
Speaker 3: He's already angry, and let's be.
25:13
Speaker 2: Honest, this is a question that's going to come up
25:15
Speaker 2: time and time again because the number one issue that
25:18
Speaker 2: Australians care about right now is cost of living. So
25:22
Speaker 2: you know he can't escape it no matter how angry
25:24
Speaker 2: he is. Lisa that there is a bit of a
25:27
Speaker 2: pattern emerging, as we've just said, of Albanezy being unable
25:30
Speaker 2: to keep his composure in front of the cameras. Are
25:33
Speaker 2: we starting to see the cracks appear as we do
25:36
Speaker 2: get closer to that election day?
25:41
Speaker 11: Did I think what we're guaranteed of is it's going
25:43
Speaker 11: to be a very entertaining election campaign when it officially
25:46
Speaker 11: kicks off because if he is this testy at this point,
25:49
Speaker 11: we're in for quite a show. I would suspect. Look,
25:52
Speaker 11: I'm media training executives and CEOs for a living. I
25:55
Speaker 11: teach them how to manage the media, and he is
25:58
Speaker 11: failing on one oh one of media training. You have
26:01
Speaker 11: to understand you would never going to win an argument.
26:04
Speaker 11: As we know with a journalist, your job is to
26:07
Speaker 11: speak through the journalist to the audience. And goodness me
26:10
Speaker 11: if that isn't the Australian voter who need to actually
26:13
Speaker 11: pass judgment on him and his performance. So he's doing
26:15
Speaker 11: himself no favors. He is going to get bombarded with
26:18
Speaker 11: more and more of these questions. So my advice to
26:20
Speaker 11: Prome Minister Alban is he needs to actually go back
26:22
Speaker 11: to some basics and learn this is not a jousty match.
26:25
Speaker 11: He's not out there to try to say, well, you're
26:27
Speaker 11: the talking points of the LMP or how dare you
26:29
Speaker 11: ask me that question? He needs to actually think about
26:32
Speaker 11: what he wants the Australian voter to hear. And at
26:34
Speaker 11: the moment they're not particularly happy with Labor.
26:37
Speaker 2: No exactly, Well, the polling certainly suggests that, but you're
26:40
Speaker 2: right In the end, journalists have the right to ask
26:42
Speaker 2: these questions and it's going to be a very long
26:45
Speaker 2: campaign if he keeps that anger management going, So stay tuned.
26:50
Speaker 2: We'll all be waiting with beta breath there now. Look
26:53
Speaker 2: staying on the election, an expert polster has found some
26:57
Speaker 2: really pretty interesting findings on how this year election could
27:00
Speaker 2: shape up. Director of Redbridge Group Cos Samaris says, for
27:05
Speaker 2: the first time, we are starting to see evidence that
27:08
Speaker 2: out of suburban voters that have been historically voting for
27:11
Speaker 2: Labor are moving directly over to the Coalition. Now, despite
27:16
Speaker 2: that good news for the Coalition, it's still unclear whether
27:18
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton can take those vulnerable seats, Samaris adding there
27:23
Speaker 2: is so many seats now in these two big states
27:26
Speaker 2: of New South Wales and Victoria that are just up
27:28
Speaker 2: for grabs, but it's unclear who's going to grab them.
27:33
Speaker 3: Henry, there seems to have been.
27:35
Speaker 2: A trend now with multiple polls that Labor is falling
27:39
Speaker 2: foul of voters and the Coalition is starting to pick
27:43
Speaker 2: up speed here. How do you interpret this? I mean
27:46
Speaker 2: it does feel the Coalition is in with a genuine chance.
27:52
Speaker 12: I think this research is reflecting what Coalition members are
27:55
Speaker 12: seeing on the ground representing an out of suburban electric myself,
27:59
Speaker 12: I certainly can tell you that Anthony Albinezi is not
28:01
Speaker 12: the most popular man in Australia, and progressively that has
28:05
Speaker 12: increasing as we've gotten further and further into his premiership.
28:09
Speaker 12: I think that a lot of out of suburban but
28:11
Speaker 12: also a lot of regional and even in a suburban
28:14
Speaker 12: voters are turning on the government.
28:16
Speaker 3: I think this.
28:17
Speaker 12: Research sounds pretty accurate from what I'm seeing on the ground,
28:20
Speaker 12: But I think that obviously we've got a long way
28:23
Speaker 12: to go in this election. Still, there's a lot of
28:25
Speaker 12: work that my side of politics is going to have
28:27
Speaker 12: to do to try to win the trust of the
28:29
Speaker 12: Australian people. But knowing Peter Dutton well and knowing the
28:31
Speaker 12: commitment and the work that he puts into it, I
28:33
Speaker 12: wouldn't bet against him.
28:35
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
28:36
Speaker 2: I mean still many months ago, it's a very long
28:38
Speaker 2: time in politics, but certainly that there has been a turnaround.
28:43
Speaker 2: So what does it say about voter sentiment towards Labor, Well, you've.
28:49
Speaker 11: Got basically people who have been identifying as being center
28:52
Speaker 11: or slightly center right in traditionally labor voters. So you've
28:56
Speaker 11: seen a Labor Party move to the left and they've
28:58
Speaker 11: left this whole pocket of the voting public sort of
29:01
Speaker 11: look at, well, where are we going to place our
29:03
Speaker 11: vote now, which opens up an opportunity for Peter Dutton.
29:06
Speaker 11: I think just a few days ago, Denika, we had
29:09
Speaker 11: research come out which said that it's women who are
29:12
Speaker 11: focused predominantly on cost of living, So they're making what
29:15
Speaker 11: eighty percent of the decisions when it becomes to purchases
29:18
Speaker 11: for the home. They're the ones predominantly who are in
29:20
Speaker 11: the grocery store seeing how this is impacting them. They'll
29:23
Speaker 11: be looking for somebody to provide relief and provide solutions
29:26
Speaker 11: when it comes to cost of living. And I would
29:28
Speaker 11: think Peter Dutt should go in there and make that
29:31
Speaker 11: very strong connection between you're hurting with cost of living,
29:34
Speaker 11: put the argument for nuclear, which is energy energy will
29:36
Speaker 11: help bring down your cost of living, and I think
29:38
Speaker 11: that's the path he needs to try to try and
29:40
Speaker 11: win back that women vote as well.
29:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really really good point. I think that's
29:44
Speaker 2: fair to say. Now, look, I want to talk about
29:46
Speaker 2: Queensland crime because it seems that the Queensland Premier David
29:49
Speaker 2: chris of Foley meant what he said when he said,
29:52
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a.
29:53
Speaker 3: Tough stance on this now.
29:54
Speaker 2: With over two hundred young offenders arrested since the state
29:58
Speaker 2: government passed the youth crime laws just three weeks ago,
30:01
Speaker 2: Henry youth crime, this is a national problem.
30:03
Speaker 3: This is not just for Queensland.
30:05
Speaker 2: This is everywhere around the country states trying to grapple
30:08
Speaker 2: with it. But in terms of Queensland in your home state,
30:11
Speaker 2: do you think that there has been some genuine progress.
30:17
Speaker 12: I think the first few weeks of the chris Fully
30:19
Speaker 12: government has been really quite certainly made up for lost
30:24
Speaker 12: time after seventy years of labor. We've seen some really
30:27
Speaker 12: important laws pass through the parliament here and I think
30:30
Speaker 12: it's important that these laws are seen not just as
30:32
Speaker 12: a deterrent but something that will actually get criminals off
30:35
Speaker 12: the streets. And I think that's been the impressive thing
30:38
Speaker 12: about the stats that we've seen today around so many
30:41
Speaker 12: arrests that have been made. I think it's so important
30:44
Speaker 12: to give the police the powers that they need to
30:46
Speaker 12: actually deal with these criminals and just keep them off
30:49
Speaker 12: the streets. I'm told that about ninety percent of the
30:51
Speaker 12: crimes that occur in my electorate are done by the
30:54
Speaker 12: twelve youth offenders that they know very well. Wouldn't it
30:57
Speaker 12: be good if we had those twelve youth offenders actually
31:00
Speaker 12: going through a proper process of getting the skills that
31:03
Speaker 12: they need to progress in life and getting them off
31:05
Speaker 12: the streets. I think this wonderful thing, and I think
31:08
Speaker 12: the stats are promising.
31:09
Speaker 3: Oh look, I completely agree.
31:11
Speaker 2: My issue with these these incidents is that the owners
31:15
Speaker 2: does also fall on the justice system because a lot
31:17
Speaker 2: of the times these young offenders get away with a
31:19
Speaker 2: slap on the wrist, they go back out into the
31:21
Speaker 2: community and that cycle of crime continues. Now, we don't
31:24
Speaker 2: want youth offenders in jail for their whole lives at LESA.
31:28
Speaker 2: But you know, is this what it takes. It takes
31:31
Speaker 2: a firm and proper stance to address the issue.
31:36
Speaker 11: Well, you're right, it's that revolving door that was frustrating
31:39
Speaker 11: for the community, but also very frustrating for police because
31:42
Speaker 11: I've spoken to many many police who have been out there.
31:44
Speaker 11: They picked these kids up, and then the next night
31:46
Speaker 11: of the night after there they are again, and they
31:48
Speaker 11: would just sort of throw the hands up and go, well,
31:50
Speaker 11: what is the point at this stage? And you're right,
31:53
Speaker 11: this will now come down to We've seen two hundred
31:55
Speaker 11: and twenty seven i think kids or juveniles arrested four
31:59
Speaker 11: hundred and forty eight charges in three weeks.
32:01
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
32:02
Speaker 11: But the real proof of the pudding will be what
32:04
Speaker 11: will the justice system do with this? How hard will
32:06
Speaker 11: the magistrates come down to actually show that there is
32:08
Speaker 11: a deterrent needed there to say, look, you need to
32:11
Speaker 11: stop this, we need to clean this up, because that's
32:13
Speaker 11: what christophili really needs.
32:15
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
32:16
Speaker 2: Now, look, I want to ask you both about Andrew Giles,
32:19
Speaker 2: and I've got to say the failed Andrew Giles experiment
32:22
Speaker 2: has struck once again. The former immigration Minister's disastrous handling
32:27
Speaker 2: of allowing violent immigrants to enter the country has come
32:30
Speaker 2: back to haunt him, with a federal court now ruling
32:33
Speaker 2: in favor of a migrant who attacked his wife with
32:36
Speaker 2: a meat cleaver. The court found the Giles' decision to
32:40
Speaker 2: cancel the visa of the man, who was released into
32:43
Speaker 2: the community on a bridging visa back in August, was unlawful.
32:47
Speaker 3: So Henry, here we go again.
32:50
Speaker 2: My take on this is this is what happens when
32:52
Speaker 2: you put a man who represented asylum seekers on the
32:54
Speaker 2: Tampa into the immigration portfolio as some sort of an experiment,
32:58
Speaker 2: And now it's still coming back to warned him even
33:00
Speaker 2: though he's no longer in that portfolio. But how is
33:03
Speaker 2: this person allowed to walk free in this country?
33:09
Speaker 12: It's a very good question. I think your theory is
33:11
Speaker 12: absolutely right. He was the wrong man for the job
33:14
Speaker 12: and they've done Australia's service and getting rid of him.
33:16
Speaker 12: But unfortunately, I think that it's not just him. This
33:19
Speaker 12: is an approach from the entire labor government where they
33:21
Speaker 12: are weak on our borders, they are weak on crime,
33:24
Speaker 12: they are weak on the issues that matter to people.
33:26
Speaker 1: The key litmus test.
33:27
Speaker 12: The first rule for any government should be looking after
33:31
Speaker 12: and protecting the safety of their citizens, and the government
33:34
Speaker 12: has failed. They've failed not just because of a stuff
33:38
Speaker 12: up here and a stuff up there and a bit
33:40
Speaker 12: of poor paperwork, which is what has occurred in this judgment,
33:43
Speaker 12: but their decisions in regards to policy on the borders
33:48
Speaker 12: is resulting in these criminals, these foreign criminals, being allowed
33:52
Speaker 12: to walk free in our streets. And it's an absolute disgrace.
33:55
Speaker 3: Oh, it is an absolute disgrace Lisa.
33:57
Speaker 2: Why has Labor never ever gotten it right when to
34:00
Speaker 2: border security in this country.
34:04
Speaker 11: Well, it's not like they haven't had enough chances over
34:06
Speaker 11: and over again. But this is just disgraceful and the
34:08
Speaker 11: fact that he isn't now on the back bench. There
34:10
Speaker 11: should have been some hard decisions made here by the
34:12
Speaker 11: Prime Minister. But I guess at the end of the
34:15
Speaker 11: day they promised us that the safety of the community
34:17
Speaker 11: would be paramount. But if you're a really good friend
34:20
Speaker 11: of the Prime Minister, perhaps that's a stronger sort of persuasion.
34:24
Speaker 3: Persuasive tool.
34:25
Speaker 2: Well, look, the bungle detainee's issue has just been dogging
34:28
Speaker 2: this government for too long. Now, before I let you
34:31
Speaker 2: both go, I want to talk about Australia's housing crisis.
34:33
Speaker 3: We know it is front and center.
34:35
Speaker 2: It's on the minds of everyone, but it's also on
34:38
Speaker 2: the minds of business executives who rank this as the
34:41
Speaker 2: number one social issue. For KPMG's latest survey.
34:45
Speaker 3: Out of a survey of three.
34:46
Speaker 2: Hundred CEOs, forty eight percent said that the issue was
34:50
Speaker 2: keeping them.
34:51
Speaker 3: Up at night.
34:52
Speaker 2: Henry Labor has bungled this housing crisis from the start.
34:56
Speaker 2: If executives are worried themselves. If they're feeling the pinch,
35:00
Speaker 2: and they're the ones who are traditionally better paid than
35:02
Speaker 2: the average Aussie, imagine what it's like for ordinary Australians
35:05
Speaker 2: out there.
35:08
Speaker 12: Absolutely, when I've been knocking on doors in my elector,
35:11
Speaker 12: I can tell you that it's certainly keeping young Australians
35:14
Speaker 12: up at night, not just those in the c suite.
35:17
Speaker 12: Australians are finding that that great Australian dream of HIME
35:20
Speaker 12: ownership seems to be further away. It seems to now
35:24
Speaker 12: be something that they won't be able to attain. And unfortunately,
35:27
Speaker 12: when you have a situation like we have now, where
35:30
Speaker 12: you've got record low building approvals, record low housing starts
35:33
Speaker 12: and record high immigration, you don't have to have an
35:36
Speaker 12: economics degree to understand what the implications are going to
35:38
Speaker 12: be for housing prices.
35:40
Speaker 3: So it's something that's.
35:41
Speaker 12: Going to have to be a critical issue that's fought
35:43
Speaker 12: on over this election. I think the Coalition's got the
35:45
Speaker 12: right policy in regards to boosting supply and we're just
35:48
Speaker 12: going to have to push that as hard as we can.
35:50
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Alisa, how much of an acute vote driving issue
35:54
Speaker 2: is this housing crisis?
35:57
Speaker 11: Well, it absolutely is, but I want to look at
35:59
Speaker 11: this from a different angle. So from a business perspective,
36:01
Speaker 11: these executives are saying it's causing them difficulty in having
36:05
Speaker 11: staff because they've got jobs. But then the staff have
36:08
Speaker 11: to find out, well can I afford.
36:10
Speaker 3: To live close to work? How do I get to work?
36:12
Speaker 11: So they're deciding factors which ultimately will affect productivity. So
36:16
Speaker 11: that's why this housing crisis is such an urgent issue
36:18
Speaker 11: as well.
36:19
Speaker 3: Look, I can tell you from personal experience.
36:20
Speaker 11: I had a staff member first home buyer, she moved
36:24
Speaker 11: to the Sunshine Coast. I then allowed work from home.
36:27
Speaker 11: She's now got to a point where that was too much.
36:29
Speaker 11: That was two hour four hours of return travel every day,
36:32
Speaker 11: So she's now moved to the Sunshine Coast. So, as
36:34
Speaker 11: a business owner, this housing crisis and the high cost
36:37
Speaker 11: of homes and trying to break into that market has
36:40
Speaker 11: cost me a staff member, which I now have to
36:42
Speaker 11: put time and effort into going out and finding someone
36:45
Speaker 11: to replace it. So the people who were surveyed for
36:47
Speaker 11: that KPMG survey are in exactly that position, but on
36:51
Speaker 11: a grander scale, they're looking at hundreds, if not thousands.
36:53
Speaker 1: Of people.
36:53
Speaker 11: They need to fill jobs, So where do they live?
36:56
Speaker 3: Well, there you go.
36:57
Speaker 2: It just shows that that our employers have been absolutely
37:00
Speaker 2: squeezed by this. It's not just ordinary I was he
37:02
Speaker 2: suffering the housing market. It's having an impact on every sector.
37:05
Speaker 2: That's a really, really good point. Henry Pike, Lisa Godard.
37:08
Speaker 2: Really good to have you both on the program this evening.
37:11
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. We'll stay with
37:14
Speaker 2: us coming up after the break the never Trump movements
37:17
Speaker 2: Golden Boy is stepping down as Prime Minister of Canada.
37:20
Speaker 2: Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer will join me next.
37:28
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.
37:29
Speaker 2: Well, the poster boy for the woke has fallen on
37:32
Speaker 2: his sword. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has done what
37:36
Speaker 2: he should have done a long time ago and resign.
37:40
Speaker 13: This country deserves a real choice in the next election,
37:44
Speaker 13: and it has become clear to me that if I
37:47
Speaker 13: am having to fight internal battles, I cannot be the
37:52
Speaker 13: best option in that election.
37:55
Speaker 2: Well, this is what happens when you run a government
37:58
Speaker 2: obsessed with woke pol ticks, green zelotry, an out of
38:02
Speaker 2: control migration program and lack of action on what counts that.
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Speaker 3: Is cost of living.
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Speaker 2: It sounds awfully familiar to what we've got here at home,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it. Perhaps this should serve as a warning to
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi. Joining me now is former White House Press
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Speaker 2: Secretary Sean Spicer.
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Speaker 3: Sean, thank you for joining me.
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Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau should have resigned a long time ago.
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Speaker 3: How would you describe his legacy?
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Speaker 14: I think his legacy will be how it ended today.
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Speaker 14: I mean the idea that Trump came back into office.
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Speaker 1: He's not even.
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Speaker 14: Sworn in yet, and Justin Trudeau bowed, tried to bow
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Speaker 14: with the knee of Trump fireback.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't successful.
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Speaker 14: I mean, it just shows you how pathetic it is.
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Speaker 14: His press event today outside of his home just sounded
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Speaker 14: weak for a guy who's been prime minister for nine years,
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Speaker 14: a leader of his party for eleven.
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Speaker 1: He's whimpering out at bet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I say this is a total cop out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he had time to call an election.
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Speaker 3: What is he's so afraid of? Do you think?
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Speaker 14: I think, like Joe Biden here in the United States,
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Speaker 14: it's sad when you have to look yourself in.
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Speaker 1: The mirror and realize how your legacy is going to
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Speaker 1: be laid out.
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Speaker 14: In history, right, Joe Biden snapped at a bunch of
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Speaker 14: reporters last night because I think he's upset about how
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Speaker 14: his legacy is starting to be portrayed here. And I
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Speaker 14: think Trudeau realized how he's going to end his tenure
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Speaker 14: as Prime minister and leader of the party up there.
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Speaker 1: For that reason.
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Speaker 14: I just I think he's realizing that it's all coming
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Speaker 14: to a very very difficult end. And for anybody, that's
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Speaker 14: a challenging thing to face. But when you've been in
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Speaker 14: power as long as somebody looked Trudeau and to whimper
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Speaker 14: out the way it is, he's not even putting up
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Speaker 14: a fight. He's admitting defeat right out of the gate.
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Speaker 14: I thought it was was just a huge sign of weakness,
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Speaker 14: and you know, I think he will be remembered for that.
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Speaker 2: How much of this do you think is that Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump effects? Do you think that the incoming president actually
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Speaker 2: ended Trudeau's career?
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, I mean there's no question about it. I think
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Speaker 14: Trudeau flew down tomorrow Lago as we all saw, hoping
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Speaker 14: to make nice. Trump mocked him down there, calling him
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Speaker 14: the you know, the governor of Canada.
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Speaker 1: He looked weak. He had to fly home, his own
40:29
Speaker 1: party recognized that he looked weak.
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Speaker 14: He tried to show Trump the that somehow the tariffs
40:35
Speaker 14: weren't going to have an effect and that he could play.
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Speaker 1: And it's like playing a week hand in a card game.
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Speaker 14: You know, at some point everybody sees your cards and
40:44
Speaker 14: realizes that you can talk a good game, but you're
40:46
Speaker 14: playing a weak hand. And Trudeau, you know, Trump exposed
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Speaker 14: Trudeau for being very, very weak. He didn't look strong,
40:55
Speaker 14: and I think both in terms of his party politics
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Speaker 14: internally and then the nation as a whole, he came
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Speaker 14: off just looking like a very feckless leader. And I
41:05
Speaker 14: don't think there was any choice for him but to
41:08
Speaker 14: go out the way he did today. I just will
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Speaker 14: say that I can't imagine that his staff treated him well.
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Speaker 1: This did not look like.
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Speaker 14: A man who is ending a very long tenure as
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Speaker 14: the way he should have. I mean, he had a
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Speaker 14: very strong political rise, and the idea that he's ending
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Speaker 14: on the note that he is dissolving parliament until March,
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Speaker 14: it just he comes out really really ending on a weak,
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Speaker 14: feckless note.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Look, let's move on now to what I'm describing as
41:39
Speaker 2: a delicious moment of Kamala Harris's career. She today has
41:44
Speaker 2: officiated Donald Trump's win.
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Speaker 10: Well today, it was obviously a very important day, and
41:51
Speaker 10: it was about what should be the norm and what
41:56
Speaker 10: the American people should be able to take for granted,
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Speaker 10: which is that one of the most sportin pillars of
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Speaker 10: our democracy is that there will be a peaceful transfer
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Speaker 10: of power.
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Speaker 2: Look, Sean, she took a potting shot bare. It must
42:09
Speaker 2: have been a bit of pill to swallow.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, I will say this. I'll give her credit.
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Speaker 14: She did her job. She couldn't help, as you point out,
42:18
Speaker 14: making a couple of snide comments on their acting, like
42:21
Speaker 14: somehow she was holier than now. But the bottom line
42:24
Speaker 14: is she did her job today. I'll give her credit
42:26
Speaker 14: for that. When you lose as resoundingly as she did.
42:31
Speaker 14: This wasn't a close election. She blew it both in
42:35
Speaker 14: the electoral college, she blew it the popular vote, and
42:39
Speaker 14: she blew key constituencies within the Democratic Party. So I
42:43
Speaker 14: have a hard time thinking it would have looked remotely
42:46
Speaker 14: normal for her to get up there and tried to
42:48
Speaker 14: make something of this.
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Speaker 1: I think she did the only thing.
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Speaker 14: She could, which was preside over the chamber, try to
42:54
Speaker 14: make a couple comments to her base and move on.
42:56
Speaker 14: But look, it was a great day for those of
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Speaker 14: us who have been supporters of President Trump to see
43:03
Speaker 14: this officially certified and put us now at thirteen days
43:08
Speaker 14: from the inauguration of his second term.
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Speaker 2: And Sean Donald Trump has launched an effort to block
43:13
Speaker 2: his hush money sentencing for later this week, but the
43:16
Speaker 2: judge has denied it.
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Speaker 3: How do you see this playing out?
43:21
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this whole thing was silly from the jump.
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Speaker 14: These guys, you may manufactured a charge. The statue of
43:29
Speaker 14: limitations here in the United States, which is the amount
43:32
Speaker 14: of time you have to file a charge, was well
43:36
Speaker 14: past expired. It was a charge that nobody, if they
43:40
Speaker 14: weren't named Donald Trump running for president, would have been
43:43
Speaker 14: charged with. Look, the thing that I think is so
43:45
Speaker 14: funny is I don't know how much New York City
43:47
Speaker 14: news you guys get down under, but the bottom line
43:50
Speaker 14: is this place is running.
43:51
Speaker 1: Wild with crime, and yet they.
43:54
Speaker 14: Chose to spend precious resources not protecting the people of
43:58
Speaker 14: New York from some of these violent crimes, but manufacturing
44:02
Speaker 14: a charge.
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Speaker 1: Again startled Trump. It's frankly part of the reason that.
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Speaker 14: He won and that he grew in political strength because
44:10
Speaker 14: of these stupid, silly attacks.
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Speaker 1: From the left.
44:13
Speaker 14: If I were Judge Marshawn, the judge presiding in this case,
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Speaker 14: I would publicly call Donald Trump and say, look, I
44:20
Speaker 14: just want to say, as an officer of the court,
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Speaker 14: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: I made a mistake.
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Speaker 14: These charges should have never been brought and it's the
44:28
Speaker 14: court wants to apologize to you. If anything, That's the
44:32
Speaker 14: right call at this point.
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Speaker 2: Sean Spice are really good to speak with you. Thank
44:35
Speaker 2: you very much for joining me on the show this evening.
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Speaker 1: You met absolutely good to see you.
44:40
Speaker 3: Well.
44:40
Speaker 2: It seems every day we wake up to another horrifying
44:43
Speaker 2: story about the scourge of anti Semitism in Australia. It
44:46
Speaker 2: is a crisis that as we know, has fallen on
44:49
Speaker 2: Labour's deaf Ear is the latest incident to e bikes
44:52
Speaker 2: and e scooters were defaced with anti Semitic slogans and
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Speaker 2: abandoned in Sydney's suburbs.
44:58
Speaker 3: With high Jewish populations.
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Speaker 2: Jody now is Alex Ripchin from the Executive Council of
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Speaker 2: Australian Jury.
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Speaker 3: Alex, nice to speak with you. Every day.
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Speaker 2: It feels like these sorts of attacks are occurring. How
45:09
Speaker 2: is the community feeling? I mean, I saw a video
45:11
Speaker 2: yesterday of a Jewish woman in tears over the graffiti
45:14
Speaker 2: on a car.
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Speaker 3: How much longer must this community put up with it?
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Speaker 15: We don't know, Danika, and that's kind of exacerbating the
45:22
Speaker 15: anxiety and the trauma of the community. We don't know
45:24
Speaker 15: what comes next, and we've seen for so long now
45:29
Speaker 15: every day as you've articulated their new incidents, new horrors,
45:33
Speaker 15: new atrocities. It's been a very difficult time. We've seen
45:36
Speaker 15: things in this country in the past fifteen sixteen months
45:39
Speaker 15: that we thought could not possibly happen in Australia, the
45:42
Speaker 15: burning of a synagogue, the defacing of cars, the burning
45:46
Speaker 15: of cars, and the fact that Jewish Australians have to
45:49
Speaker 15: wake up each morning and not knowing what's descending upon them.
45:53
Speaker 15: They step out of their doors and they see if
45:55
Speaker 15: the Jews daubed on cars on their streets and now
45:58
Speaker 15: on e bikes as well. Well, you know, it's really
46:01
Speaker 15: no way to live and it's no way to be
46:03
Speaker 15: and it shouldn't be the norm in this country, but
46:05
Speaker 15: sadly it has become the norm. This is what the
46:08
Speaker 15: Jewish community is now dealing with and we've gone through
46:11
Speaker 15: such a range of emotions since October seventh, you know,
46:14
Speaker 15: the feelings of helplessness and out of despair and horror
46:19
Speaker 15: and shock. There have been moments of fear, but there's
46:22
Speaker 15: also been moments of great strength and resilience and determination.
46:25
Speaker 15: This community isn't going anywhere. We're proud Australians, we always
46:29
Speaker 15: have been and we always will be. But we need
46:31
Speaker 15: others to stand with us. We feel like there's a
46:34
Speaker 15: lot of bystanders at the moment in Australian society, both
46:37
Speaker 15: at an institutional level and individuals, and we need people
46:39
Speaker 15: to stand beside us and say this is not on
46:43
Speaker 15: where with you we will protect you. A crime against
46:45
Speaker 15: jew as, a crime against this.
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Speaker 2: All, absolutely nobody should be bystanders to this, whether you're
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Speaker 2: Jewish or not.
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Speaker 3: It's just appalling what's going on. Now. Let's talk about Victoria.
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Speaker 2: That state has seen a major international sporting event canceled
46:59
Speaker 2: over concerns athlete safety only because one of the countries
47:03
Speaker 2: participating is Israel.
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Speaker 3: Alex has sport capitulated.
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Speaker 15: Now well, sport has long been a battleground for the
47:11
Speaker 15: anti Israel movement, they've targeted FIFA, and we've seen even
47:15
Speaker 15: in Australia certain human rights so called human rights activists
47:18
Speaker 15: calling for Israel to be kicked out of FIFA. It
47:21
Speaker 15: happened also with Israel's hosting of Eurovision a few years
47:24
Speaker 15: ago and with the upcoming competition that's caused for Israel
47:28
Speaker 15: to be kicked out the Norwegian Football Association so they
47:31
Speaker 15: wouldn't play against Israel in a competitive game. So this
47:35
Speaker 15: has long been a field where the anti Israel elements
47:39
Speaker 15: in society in the world tried to drive a wedge
47:42
Speaker 15: between Israelis and the rest of the world, try to
47:43
Speaker 15: turn Israel into a pariah, into an outsider, and basically
47:48
Speaker 15: punish those who seek to associate with them in any
47:51
Speaker 15: way at all. So there's no surprise here in that
47:54
Speaker 15: this was targeted. But what is surprising is that the
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Speaker 15: decision makers here have chose in to bow to that extremist,
48:01
Speaker 15: into that fanaticism, to thugory and to actually not host
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Speaker 15: these games and to deprive not only the competitors of
48:10
Speaker 15: the right to compete in this sport and in this competition,
48:13
Speaker 15: but austrains the right to partake in it as well,
48:16
Speaker 15: and It's yet another example of these extremists trying to
48:19
Speaker 15: dictate to us how we're going to live our lives
48:21
Speaker 15: as Australians, whether we can enjoy Christmas decorations in the
48:24
Speaker 15: Meyer shop windows, whether we can march freely walk fill
48:28
Speaker 15: in our streets on the weekends. And this really requires
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Speaker 15: integrity and fortitude on the part of the decision makers.
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Speaker 15: In sadly here it was lacking. They've chosen the easy
48:39
Speaker 15: route out, the cop out, and I think that sets
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Speaker 15: a horrible precedent.
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Speaker 3: Alex, your spot on.
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Speaker 2: It's so sad it's come to these we have to
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Speaker 2: leave it there, Alex Rivchin, but always great to speak
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Speaker 2: with you. Thank you so much for your time this evening.
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Speaker 2: Well that's it for me tonight. I'll be back again
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. It's stay tuned. It's time for the Great Debate.