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179. Jordan Larson, Pro Volleyball Player & 3-Time Olympic Medalist · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: If you feel like you've done everything you can, you've
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  Speaker 1: prepared yourself, and it doesn't turn how it out. It's
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  Speaker 1: a learning experience. You take something from it, you learn
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  Speaker 1: from it, you move on, and that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily a body here coming to you live
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  Speaker 2: from the AG studio and you are listening to Hurdle,
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  Speaker 2: a wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from
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  Speaker 2: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about
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  Speaker 2: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We
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  Speaker 2: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through
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  Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours
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  Speaker 2: and move with intention so that you can stride towards
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  Speaker 2: your own big potential and of course have some fun
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  Speaker 2: along the way. This week I am chatting with Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: She's a professional volleyball player and three time Olympic medalists,
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  Speaker 2: including a gold from this year's Games in Tokyo. For
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  Speaker 2: episode one seventy nine, she gives me the rundown of
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  Speaker 2: how she got here growing up in a super small town,
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  Speaker 2: guided by both of her parents to pursue and love sport.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan talk to me about going overseas for volleyball, playing
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  Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico and Russia, Turkey and China, and what
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  Speaker 2: it was like for her to land on her first
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  Speaker 2: Olympic team.
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  Speaker 3: We also talk about the hurdles she's faced.
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  Speaker 2: Along the way, including divorce and in navigating all that
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  Speaker 2: international travel, dealing with loneliness, and learning how to be
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  Speaker 2: comfortable spending more time by herself while pursuing her passions.
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  Speaker 2: We also chat about what's next, and she actually takes
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  Speaker 2: over the interviewing role for a little bit and asks
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  Speaker 2: me a few questions, which isn't something that happens all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 3: A huge thank you to Jordan for her time.
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  Speaker 2: I had a blast recording this and after this conversation
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  Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this. I may just need to
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  Speaker 2: get myself an English bulldog before we get to it today.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Jordan Larsen. She is a
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  Speaker 2: three time Olympian, a relatively new gold medal to add
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  Speaker 2: to the stack, a pro volleyball player.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing today?
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  Speaker 4: Good? Good? Thanks for having me, Oh my.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, thank you for sitting down with me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to congratulate you on first, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's getting married recently or this new shiny gold medal.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's been a surreal month and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I've come down yet. I've still been this
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  Speaker 1: like brain fog. I'm like, what is going on? What's happening?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's been just so surreal.
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  Speaker 4: So fun.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations on all of these awesome, awesome milestones for you
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  Speaker 2: not to mention. Also we have to highlight although the
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  Speaker 2: hurdlers who are listening to this cannot see Spud, but Spud,
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  Speaker 2: the three year old English bulldog coming in and out
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  Speaker 2: of my view, is really making this day astronomically better.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, He's a He's a special one, aren't you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a special one. Well, things again for your
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  Speaker 2: time today. I'm so excited to get to learn a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more about you. And like I said, coming
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  Speaker 2: down off of a major win in Tokyo. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting, right because they always say that there is
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  Speaker 2: like that letdown factor or like the post wedding blues,
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  Speaker 2: and not only are you maybe dealing with those, but
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  Speaker 2: you're also dealing with coming back and not thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Olympics are coming, Olympics are coming, Olympics are coming.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, It's it's very unique situation.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm playing pro next, so like I have something
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  Speaker 1: to kind of look forward to, but I still don't
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  Speaker 1: know when I'm leaving what's going on. Like I'm just
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  Speaker 1: in this like weird space. So uh yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a weird, weird, weird space to be in. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to like even describe it.
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  Speaker 2: How do you navigate kind of the mental side of
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  Speaker 2: things that comes with this, perhaps I would say a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of like uncertainty at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just try to be as present as I can.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm lucky enough that I have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like my husband's a head coach, I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of like sports like friends, so like having conversations with
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  Speaker 1: them of just trying to stay as present as I can.
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  Speaker 1: Really focus on how do I keep my body healthy
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  Speaker 1: still and and that's just my biggest motivation at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: And I am dealing with like a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an achilles thing, so trying to get that figured out.
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  Speaker 1: So but I think just really honing in on being
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  Speaker 1: present and yeah here as much as I can.
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  Speaker 2: We'll touch back on the Achilles thing and maybe a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of an injury a little bit later. But
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  Speaker 2: where I'd love to uh to lead us off here
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  Speaker 2: really is going back.
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  Speaker 3: To your beginnings. You grew up in a really small town.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like really really small town.
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  Speaker 3: Like when I looked up the population, it was like
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  Speaker 3: under a thousand people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much under under a thousand and Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody knew everything, knew what car you drove, who your
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  Speaker 1: family was, where you lived.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was unique.
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  Speaker 1: Especially now living in LA It's like, I like can't imagine,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm just like, how did I grow up there?
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  Speaker 2: So if you guys think about maybe one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest takeaways that you had walking away from that kind
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  Speaker 2: of small town upbringing, where would you even begin.
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  Speaker 1: I that's a good question. Well, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I've ever actually thought about that. I think the slowness
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  Speaker 1: of life, you know, like they didn't it wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: rush to get places. It was just like very much
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  Speaker 1: like present and like, hey, in this moment, what we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to do and really getting to know people. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having patients and everybody's different in our hometown
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  Speaker 1: even and just having some grace and patience in that.
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  Speaker 1: And so but yeah, that's a really good question that.
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  Speaker 2: Probably came in that outlook or that perspective a little
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  Speaker 2: bit handy over the last you know, sixteen eighteen months,
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  Speaker 2: when we were being forced to slow down a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, honestly, the pandemic has been yeah amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't slowed down that much since, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: since that time that I was living in a small town,
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  Speaker 1: because I had just been on the go and trying
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  Speaker 1: to you know, reach my dreams and my goals.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, definitely definitely paid off during that time.
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  Speaker 2: So bring us back to Hooper, Nebraska and talk to
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  Speaker 2: me a little bit about what going to school getting
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  Speaker 2: involved in sport looked like for you from a young age.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, My both my parents were athletes. So my
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  Speaker 1: dad actually played Division two college football, and then my
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  Speaker 1: mom played in high school a little bit, but probably
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  Speaker 1: could have continued to play basketball in college somewhere, but
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  Speaker 1: just chose not to. And so they were very much
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  Speaker 1: sport oriented. They understood that being in sport like allowed
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of learning opportunity, and so I, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they just kind of threw me into a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different things, and I really got a taste of what
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  Speaker 1: I really wanted to do. I tried soccer, I was
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  Speaker 1: in softball, I played basketball, I ran track, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think having a mixture of doing all that allowed
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  Speaker 1: me to really fall in love with the sport of
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  Speaker 1: volleyball and that space to feel fresh and like renewed
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  Speaker 1: every time I.
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  Speaker 4: Came back to it.
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  Speaker 3: Did you feel as though there was some sort of
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  Speaker 3: an expectation put on you by having two athletic parents,
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  Speaker 3: that this was something that you were definitely going to
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  Speaker 3: get into, Like was there an artsy side of you
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  Speaker 3: or were you like sports period, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sports period, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely my mom got she had a little more creative,
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  Speaker 1: creative side, but I definitely did not get any of that.
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  Speaker 1: And I was so my parents got divorced when I
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  Speaker 1: was pretty young, and so my dad lived on the
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  Speaker 1: farm and my mom lived in town, and so I
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  Speaker 1: kind of got the best of both worlds. But being
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  Speaker 1: on the farm, you know, you're out outside, you're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with animals, you're I mean, I didn't deal so much
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  Speaker 1: with them, like one on one, but yeah, you're outside
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  Speaker 1: a lot, you're working, and so I just I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I got really the best. But it was mainly
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  Speaker 1: just sports, and I was all in. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play all the time. But I don't think expectations.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I knew how good my parents were,
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  Speaker 1: or like there wasn't any talk about it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I just was wanting to be the best that
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  Speaker 1: I could be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's that's really special, though, to
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  Speaker 2: start getting involved in sport and have two individuals in
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  Speaker 2: your life that knew the perhaps mental tolls that could take,
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  Speaker 2: the physical tolls that it could take, and really understand
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  Speaker 2: where you were going in your journey.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, absolutely, Yeah. And I felt like
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  Speaker 1: every every turn of like or a decision that I
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  Speaker 1: had to make of like hey, do I go hang
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  Speaker 1: out with friends, or do I go to this you know,
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  Speaker 1: speeded agility class, if it was always something that was
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  Speaker 1: going to better myself or you know, put me in
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  Speaker 1: a position to reach one of my goals, they were
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  Speaker 1: they would kind of like navigate me towards that decision
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  Speaker 1: versus you know, maybe you know, sacrificing time with friends,
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  Speaker 1: and so I very much appreciated that.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely. At the time, it was hard.
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  Speaker 1: Because all I wanted to do was hang out with
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  Speaker 1: my friends, you know, But now looking back, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: thank goodness I made that decision because I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: sitting here today for sure.
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  Speaker 2: What age or like, at what point do you remember
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  Speaker 2: having to start making these kinds of difficult decisions because
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  Speaker 2: most kids, I mean they it would be a new brainer, right,
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  Speaker 2: you said you like, I wanted to have the fund.
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  Speaker 2: So do you remember having to make these calls?
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  Speaker 1: I remember really at the age of twelve, like starting
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  Speaker 1: because I started playing Club Balleba at that time, and
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  Speaker 1: my parents it's such a financial commitment on their end,
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  Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to have another job, and so
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  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, if we do this now, when we
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  Speaker 1: do this, there's going to be sacrifices that come along
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  Speaker 1: with it. And so with that, I think since that
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  Speaker 1: point and on, like I remember little decisions along the
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  Speaker 1: way that really had to start kind of changing and shifting.
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  Speaker 1: But I probably wouldn't say there wasn't any major decisions,
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  Speaker 1: probably until I was like fourteen or.
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  Speaker 4: Something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that that initial time was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to make this commitment as a family. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard on us, and we need you kind of all
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  Speaker 1: in because if we're not going to do this, if
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  Speaker 1: you're not willing to put in the time.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I mean you're thirty four now, yeah, Jordan, this
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  Speaker 2: is like twenty two years of volleyball.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's insane and were I was just practicing
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  Speaker 1: with one of my students this morning and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think of athletes that have burnout? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I never.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, there was times in my career that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to go to practice or wanted to quit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but my parents really encouraged me to, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you committed to like the beginning of the season, stay
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  Speaker 1: till the end and see how you feel, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: take some time away from it and then decide, you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't make a rash decision like hey it's over. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's this term at burnout. It's like
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  Speaker 1: I have a hard time understanding or relating because I
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  Speaker 1: never I just I wanted something so bad that I
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  Speaker 1: was willing to put in the time and struggle through
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  Speaker 1: those moments when I didn't want to do it, because
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  Speaker 1: everybody goes through that. I mean the other day, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to work out today, but
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  Speaker 1: here we are, you know, and I feel so much
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  Speaker 1: better when I do it.
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  Speaker 4: So, but it's so interesting that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this whole perspective is so interesting to me
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  Speaker 2: because I feel as though I don't know anyone who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't struggled with burnout, and you even just now kind
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  Speaker 2: of insinuated that you may have struggled with it, but
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  Speaker 2: scuming to it never really felt like an option. And
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  Speaker 2: it seems as though this was just like instilled in you, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like I love the approach.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's just, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Make it our goal to get to this point and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll reevaluate instead of making that really quick, like
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  Speaker 2: perhaps hot headed decision. Do you feel as that you
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  Speaker 2: use that kind of strategy when it comes to their
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  Speaker 2: decisions or important things in your life?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, It's so funny.
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  Speaker 1: I I signed a contract in China after playing in
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  Speaker 1: Turkey for five years, and my first day in China,
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  Speaker 1: I like, my dad travels.
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  Speaker 4: With me and it's you know, it's something new.
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  Speaker 1: But I at this point, I'm thirty one years old, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I've been doing this for a long time, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a new location. I at first day, I'm like
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  Speaker 1: going to my dad bawling because I'm like, what am
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  Speaker 1: I doing here? Why did I make this decision, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like ready to fly home the next day.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, now my dad my career, He's like,
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  Speaker 1: let's go, let's go on the plane, let's go home.
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  Speaker 1: And I talked to my husband, I'm and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: just give it some time, like you'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Like because my biggest concern was like finding a grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: I was so used to everything in Turkey that everything
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  Speaker 1: was so new that I was just like, but I
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  Speaker 1: gave it some time, and I was able to figure
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  Speaker 1: it out, and like I come out always on the
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  Speaker 1: better end of it, you know, like there hasn't been,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, decision that I've made that I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that, you know, Like I've always
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  Speaker 1: made it and like got through with it. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that has really carried over for me. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, it may not be the time you
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  Speaker 1: like it right now, but on the other end, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be so much better because you stuck through it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So twelve to fourteen, we're starting to really
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  Speaker 2: take playing volleyball really seriously. Talk to me about the
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  Speaker 2: decision to play in college.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so kind of at the age of twelve, I
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  Speaker 1: sat down with my parents and I set three goals
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  Speaker 1: and I said, hey, I want to play varsity in
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  Speaker 1: high school, I want to play in college, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to be an Olympian, which is crazy, I know,
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  Speaker 1: and like I didn't know what that meant or what
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  Speaker 1: I was going to take to get there, But like
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  Speaker 1: I said, my parents kind of helped me along the way,
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  Speaker 1: and I was lucky enough to play club and that
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  Speaker 1: really helped me transition into college and something that I
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  Speaker 1: really wanted to do. And then obviously, Nebraska volleyball is
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  Speaker 1: very well known across the United States, and it was
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  Speaker 1: an hour from my house, so it was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: obvious decision and something that I felt like was going
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  Speaker 1: to help me on that third goal of wanting to
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  Speaker 1: be and play after college.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me about how you felt transitioning from a
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  Speaker 2: town of like seven hundred and fifty people to going
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  Speaker 2: to Nebraska.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's so funny because at that time
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  Speaker 1: it was a big deal and it's so different and
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  Speaker 1: it was hard, but having my parents so close was
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  Speaker 1: so nice, and to be able to go home when
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  Speaker 1: I wanted, And it's funny, like I think I went
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  Speaker 1: home like the first two weekends in college and then
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  Speaker 1: maybe once a year after that. You know, it was
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  Speaker 1: just it's so funny how that happens. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was just so excited to be there and so excited
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  Speaker 1: to learn and just be a part.
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  Speaker 4: Of a great team.
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  Speaker 2: When you say that it was hard, what would you
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  Speaker 2: say about it was hard?
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  Speaker 1: I think just a new environment, learning to be around
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  Speaker 1: other people, and how can I focus on being an
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  Speaker 1: athlete but then also being a really good student and
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  Speaker 1: then also being a really good teammate. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a lot of things to juggle, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that was one of the hardest things. They're like
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  Speaker 1: and time management, like dealing with all that.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: What you didn't even include in that list is talking
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: about having like any semblance of a social life. Did
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: you find that at first that was even remotely possible
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: for you or was that kind of just blocked out
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: of your radar.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of kind of blocked out on
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: my radar a little bit. I think I was lucky
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: enough to that I like my teammates, so every time
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: we were even in practice, I really enjoyed.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: That was kind of like my social hour.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But we didn't really have time to do a lot,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you know, and so and I think I've always been
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: kind of person that volleyball is so much of my life,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: which I love, and that that social aspect comes with that,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and that I don't really need a lot outside of it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Like sometimes when I'm done playing, I'm just like I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: want to sit at home and like in silence, because
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know, like I just need that time
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: so to decompress.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you talked about getting into college and being a
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: little overwhelmed with this new beginning. You mentioned more recently
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: in China, feeling overwhelmed and like almost wanting to run
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: away from that new beginning. It seems as though, you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the unknown is certainly something that can be scary for you,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with as so many people listening to this podcast can
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: certainly relate. When you think about these circumstances, what would
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you say has helped you navigate to the other side
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and get over that hurdle so that you could stick
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it out and stick with your plan.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: My parents always encouraged me to talk to a third party,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: so talking to a psychologist as sports psychologist, but also
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with good people. I think it's really helped me.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I've been very lucky to have like a lot of
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: great coaches, mentors obviously my family to help me, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: psychologists too. I mean, I think it I having someone
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really know your situation, being able to talk
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to them and give their advice or how they feel,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you know, not how they feel but just listen, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: think really has helped me understand who I am and
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: how I can be best in that situation.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: And So.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that answered you to question, but
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's what has feel like has helped
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: me the most.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Do you have I'm going to ask you a personal question,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and I'll be a little vulnerable with you that I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: my parents are divorced as well. They split up when
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I was sixteen and got divorced when I was twenty one.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And I can hear in the way that you talk
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: about your parents and you say both of them, that
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you have a good relationship with both of them.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I'm curious, like, as you've gone
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: on to chase all of these big dreams kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: how that has maybe like impacted you or followed you
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: in some sort of a way.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I think, like you said, being from
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a divorce family, like it's not easy, right, like going
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: from household the household constantly. But I applaud my parents
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for doing a great job of co parenting. And ultimately,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I think when you bring when you have a kid
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: in that situation, you know, having making sure that they're
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: taken care of. And I never had ever a doubt
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in my mind that that was where my parents' priorities
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: were at. And so I'm so grateful for that because
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: even my mom ended up getting remarried, my dad never
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: did but has had a longtime partner for many years,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and so but I always just felt like, hey, we're
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: here for you and whatever you need from us. Now,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have any siblings either, Now do you have siblings?
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Like I'm wanted? Okay, And so maybe I don't know
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: if a sibling would have changed that, you know, like
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that dynamic. I was literally the sole focus. So I
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: don't know if if that dynamic could have changed as well.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Totally, yeah, totally just curious on my end.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So you start playing at Nebraska, would you
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: say that at this point you were still passionate and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: like pretty certain on chasing goal number three of becoming Olympian.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always wanted play after college, but I didn't
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: know what that meant, like, oh, I want to be
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: an Olympian, but I didn't understand that there was a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: process to it. I thought it was just like, oh,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you finished college and like you try out, you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Like I just didn't understand. And so yeah, I think
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why I went there was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: because the coach was he had been on the national
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: team before and understood, Hey, this is what it takes
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to be at the highest level, and we're going to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: help you get there.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's that's.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Why talk us through like what that process really looks like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: because I'm assuming a lot of people listening to this
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: right now have the same have the same thought process,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: or under the same impression.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So at the time, we didn't have a professional league
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in the States, and we still really don't have like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a full professional season in our professional league in the States.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We have like a really short contense one it's only
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: six weeks, but most people in order to kind of
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: gain more international experience, we have to go over season play.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So normal circumstances, obviously, the Olympics is every four years,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: but the national team meets up every summer, and during
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the summer, the national team plays in between four to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: five tournaments a year, but every one of those tournaments
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you're basically making a cut. We train with twenty four
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and then they come down to twelve or fourteen, depending
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: on the tournament, and that is basically just a cycle
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: through the four years. So we're overseas between eight six
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to eight months, and then we're worth the national team
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the rest of the time and then yep, again that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: just cycles every four years. So you're hoping that in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: those four years you're constantly making those fourteen person rosters
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: every tournament, and then when it comes to the Olympics,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you're hoping to make that final roster. I've had girls
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: start the whole team like the whole four years and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: then not make the Olympic roster. So it's very very
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: interesting for you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I know you've been to three Olympics.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Now, did you ever have a concern or worry about
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: not making the roster yourself?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I think my first time going to the Olympics,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think I even though I had been starting, I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: had been starting pretty much all four years until they
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: actually tell you, like, hey, you are part of the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: twelve going to London.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: You know, like it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Doesn't really hit you until that point, and so I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: think there was a little more concern at that point.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: But I think in Rio and in Tokyo, I had
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: kind of even if I wasn't starting. I think the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: leadership part, the experience part really kind of kind of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: sets you just a little bit higher, not advantage, but
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: it definitely has some weight to it, and so I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: think there wasn't maybe as much concern as there was
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that first club.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned the importance of going overseas to train,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: especially if you want to excel in the sport. Fill
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: us in on the decision the first time around to
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: go overseas and talk to us about where you went.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I actually graduated college early semester early, so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I graduated December, and then at the time, Puerto Rico
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was kind of like a semi pro season and so
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it was only three months long, and it was kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of nice because it transitioned right into the national team,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have to go over like over in Europe.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And so I went to Puerto Rico, got a play
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and then start went to the national team, and then
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: while I was in Thailand with the national team, we
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: played Russia and one of their assistant coaches had noticed
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: me and he wanted me to come to Russia, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: so I started and I started going to Russia, and yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it was a unique experience to go there. The team
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: had just moved up to like the first division, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: so definitely didn't have like a lot of resources, especially
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: coming from college that Nebraska had. I mean, we chartered
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: everywhere like it was high you know, high level, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: going from that to like Russia was definitely a big,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: big shock, you know, bulah blah wise for sure, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: culturally as well.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, right because volleyball obviously team sport, but all
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: of this travel, I would imagine that it could be
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: really lonely, oh for sure.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I to get a little more vulnerable.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I was actually married.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So I got married right out of college in two
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine to my or my high school my
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: college boyfriend at the time, and so he actually tried
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He actually traveled with me for the first three seasons
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: while I was overseas. We were married for seven years.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: But as you can imagine, marriage is tough, and then marriage.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: On top of training with the national team and playing professionally,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he was with me all the time, and then apart
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: from me on the national team with me all the time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So it just became really stressful in our marriage and
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we actually split. Gosh, it will be almost five years
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: six years now, and so but I think that I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: had to learn.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: To be on my own. I didn't know what it
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: was like.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I had never really I'd been solely by myself a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: little bit in college, but I feel like you're still
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: surrounded by so many people that I need to learn
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: how to be me and how does Jordan function without
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: someone someone there? And it was really like so empowering
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and I had to learn a lot. But yeah, but
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: definitely lonely at times. But I think I've gotten real
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: comfortable just being okay with with that space and striving
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: in that space.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So for you, at this time when you separated from
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: your ex husband, do you remember how you kind of
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: pulled yourself out of these dark moments? Because I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that it goes without saying that you everyone experience experiences
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: those moments when you're when you're dealing with heartache, even
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: if you know that you know it's the right thing
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: for you, right, Like it doesn't doesn't make it easier
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that like someone I don't know royally messed up or not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It's like when something comes to an end, you have
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to like mourn that loss and for you and more
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: in that loss, and also take on the responsibilities that
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: come hand in hand with being a teammate.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: How was that?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely wasn't easy. A lot of soul searching
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: at that point. Again, at seeing a psychologist like I was,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I was going to therapy myself and trying to understand
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: is this right for me? And is this right for us?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And trying to search for those answers. I remember journal
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: journaling a lot. I remember at one point in my
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: journal I was like, man, I just build a house,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Like I was just like all these things were I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: just went to the Olympic. I mean, I was just
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: like all these things were great? But why am I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: still in this? Like I don't feel like myself, Like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm who I am. And I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: really just spent time journaling and reading about relationships and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: how can I be better? And what can I learn
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: as a teammate? How can I be a better teammate
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: because I just don't think I was a great teammate
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: because I was so caught up in everything that was
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: going on at home, and I was kind of a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: long answer, but yeah, yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: It's tough.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It's not like you said, you are morning, and whether
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it's the right decision or not, it's it's tough.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, And I think it's what's interesting here.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You said that I needed to work on getting better
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: at being by myself. And I think so often like
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we hear this wisdom, right, it's like you need to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be okay on your own before you can be with
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: somebody else. But a lot of the time I get
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: messages from women, and I mean, I'm a single woman
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in my mid thirties who feels very good at this
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: point being alone, but hopes to one day have that
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: life partner so I can get myself a three year
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: old French bulldog. But basically the question is like, well,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: how do I get good at being on my own?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: What do you think, aside from the journaling and aside
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: from you know, the psychologist, like how did you get
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: your mindset to a place where you felt more comfortable
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: with that?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think for me, I had to be okay with
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the thought of not like being a the rest of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: my life, Like can I be alone and be okay?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And the answer is heck, yeah, I can. I can
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: do a lot of things. And I think women today
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: are just so incredibly powerful and like, I think it's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing to see such strong, powerful women standing
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: on their own two feet and not relying on someone
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: else one for their happiness or financial support or whatever
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it is that I just and I don't know, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just wanted to embrace that side of it so much
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that that I wanted someone that came into my life
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that was also equally as driven in that sense, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that also enhanced that experience, like empowered me to continue
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to strive to be my best version because if he's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: his best version, then we can both be our best
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: versions together. And so but I think just that that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: switch in my mind of like, hey, but if I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: don't find anybody, like, that's okay too. I can still
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have a kid by myself, Like, you know, there's ways
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to have a family still and do such kick ass
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: things that like how cool, Like I just I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that is like the coolest thing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's interesting as well, like touching
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: on this idea of knowing that you have worth as
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you are just you. I think in society, especially when
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: it comes to women, like we are just like made
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: to feel as though like on our own we are
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: not enough, which is so messed up, and more and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: more women are fighting for equal pay and now, like
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you said, we have so much, so many more options
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: when it comes to like having families on our own.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: And I also think that it goes like without saying
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that it's so important that you know that, like, there's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with you if you want to also do
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: these things with other people. It's just that it's important
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that you find your sense of value as you are
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: just you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: For sure, absolutely, I think you nailed it on the head.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I and it's maybe it's easier for me
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: because I've I've had a career and I've you know,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: been to places and I've seen things and done things
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that I've wanted to do, and you know, it's easy
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: for me to say that, you know, but yeah, it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: hard when when that's not the space in which you're operating.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But I think again, putting people in place in your
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: life that allow those things to happen for you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So how long were you playing in Russia?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I ended up playing there for five years, which is
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: still crazy to me.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how like even after the first year, I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was like, but they just kept they I mean, they
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: really treated me so well, and the team started like
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: really getting good and pumping more funds into.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: It and like great athletes. So it was it was
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: a really good experience.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Did you struggle with any of like the cultural differences
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: or perhaps like the language barrier for sure?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one teammate now on that team spoke
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: like decent English, but there was like zero socializing like outside.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Really it was just because we just couldn't communicate. It
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was just like, hey, I want to talk to you,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: but like we're just gonna sit here in silence, you know.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: So it was a lot of like hand signals up down,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I learned a little bit of Russian
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: like to play, but like as.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Far as like anything else, it was it was tough.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Wow, I mean talk about feeling really lonely then.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no, it was.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: There was times where I was like, man, and I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: think that's why I eventually transitioned to going to Turkey.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Because it was it was time to time to change
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: So when you went to Turkey, what would you say
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: was one of the biggest differences about going over there?
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I think I think volleyball was just as high level
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: as it was in Russia at the time. But then
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: also like the whole team spoke English, like our coach
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: spokenng like spoke English. All the Turkish goals spoke English. Uh.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It's simple as a little more westernized than where I
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: was living in uh in Russia, And so there was
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: just a lot more freedoms that I was able to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like kind of move on like by myself if I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: wanted to go out and do things like that. So
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that was really what was enticing about it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: We're covering the fact that you've made such massive moves
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to go after your dream, and for so many listening
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: right now, they may struggle with taking these big leaps
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: of faith, so to speak. In your experience and in
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: your experience, you know, what advice would you give to
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: these people who are want to trust their gut, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: they just don't know if they have the courage in them.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's it's tough.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think for me, what had kept me
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: going for like the longest time and still does is
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to look back, Like bullyball is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: such a short lifespan, right, like okay, twenty years, but
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it's still like when you think about it in perspective
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to your entire life, it's such a short timeframe, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to get to the end of it,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like I don't want I didn't want to sit in
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: this chair today talking to you and be like I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: wish I would have done this, or I wish I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: would have done that, or I could have done this,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: But I chigured out, like every chance that I've had
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to like take that step or try something new, I've
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: really at the time I didn't want to, like I said,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: but I did it. And now I can sit here
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and say, like I literally like I have done everything
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: that I could to be here and to be proud
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of what I've done. And so that in itself, that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: disappointment or that regret was enough for me to like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: not hesitate in those times of like kind of iffiness.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: So I think when it comes to those like taking
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a leap, like like why not, because if you don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and you look back in your life and be like, hey,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I remember in twenty ten, I could have done this,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and I chose not to, Like I didn't want to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: live with that. So that's that's kind of where I sat.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And I think even for me, I think that started
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: from like young with my parents, Like I just didn't
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: want to disappoint them. I think the weight of disappointing
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: my parents it was like such a motivation for me,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and I just wanted to make them proud and like
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: obviously like they were always beyond proud of me. There
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: was never this like harshness or you know, nothing of
• 34:13
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  Speaker 4: Be that kid that they're like, I don't know, what
• 34:19
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  Speaker 2: slash hurdle. I feel like the extrinsic motivation had to
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  Speaker 2: turn to intrinsic motivation as you got older, right, because
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't as though, you know, you go to an Olympics,
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  Speaker 2: you go to two Olympics, like your parents are freaking
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  Speaker 2: proud of you. Man, Right, So, like where where if
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  Speaker 2: you had to try to like pinpoint the point where
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  Speaker 2: you stopped being like, oh, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: want to do this and realize like, no, this is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what I want. Like you identified those goals quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote when you were twelve, but like when did it
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  Speaker 2: really shift?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, My thought is is like my first year
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: on the national team, I had to really learn every
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: skill pretty much every skill that has gotten me to
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that point. So I had to relearn how to pass,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I had to relearn how to hit. I had to
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: relearn literally everything. And at that point I was a
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: national champion. I had been the three final fours, Like
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm pretty good. But then to have
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to literally start over almost and like rebuild everything. I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: was like and to become a learner. I always I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: think I always was like my mom always talked about
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: be a sponge, like take it all in, like your
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: coach may be crazy.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: But you got to apply it and try it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And I think having to redo all that, like I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: was like, huh, I feel like I'm I'm meant to
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: be here, Like I'm meant to be a volleyball player,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Like I'm meant to do something big, and like why
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: not continue to sharpen that tool and kind of make
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: it my craft and try to master the craft. And
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: still today I'm like, man, I like I was just
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: shaking balls left and right today in practice, and I'm like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I still have so much to learn and so much
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I want to learn.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Why did you have to relearn.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: So a lot? It's kind of it gets a little technical,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: but I was learning.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Like with passing, for example, the ball at the international
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: level comes so fast that you don't have time to
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: really move your feet necessarily, Like all you have to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: do is stick out your arms and let the ball
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: like do it. Like your arms do a lot of
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the work, but let the ball like reflect off your arms.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: And like I was getting the ball more in my
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: midline where we wanted to take it more outside of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: our body line, and so having to learn how to
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: do that and then like approach efficiently to the ball
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: just really hone down on simplifying the skill versus like
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: making all these movements so complicated.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Another technical question, why is the ball coming faster to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you on an international level than on this level?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just because the players are bigger, faster, stronger than
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: hitting the ball harder. So and again I was that
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: ignorant person coming out of college, like I'm pretty good,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Like you know, like I did all these things like
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: which are great, but and I didn't understand. Like watching
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it looks faster, but like it
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem that hard. But then when I got in,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get why you need to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: go overseas and understand and learn and read and do
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: all these things because it just it's a much different game.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: So where are you when you find out that you
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: made your first Olympic team?
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I was, Anna, I'm in California.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And the cool thing about at that time, they like
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: called you into the office, so we trained with At
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that point, I want to say it was like eighteen
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that they cut down to twelve, and so you come
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in the office, you sit around all the coaches are
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: sitting there and yeah, they that's how it said, like, Hey,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: we just want to congratulate you on you are part
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: of the twelve going to London, And I was just like.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Is this real?
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the feelings that come hand in
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: hand with like being in that room and like your
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: dream coming coming true in this moment. I also would
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: imagine that it has to be hard to come out
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: of that room and feel so happy and on cloud
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: nine knowing that there are other women that you care
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: about deeply, this being such a connected team sport that
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have that same meeting.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: That is what's tough, is because you think you know
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: who the team is, and you think you know who's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: on it, and yeah, like those girls that didn't get
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to hear that that day, and just like the heartbreak
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: their feeling and how do you use a teammate like
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: console them, you know? And yeah, it's just it's a
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: tough space and gives me chills because it's just like
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and I again, I don't think at that point in
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: my life like I was present enough to know and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to understand like the impact or like how I could
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be there for my teammates because I was so just
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: wrapped up in my own if that I just like
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I could, I didn't have the capacity, And it's I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: think that's talk about regret. Like I think that's one
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: read that I do have is like being a little
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: more like understanding and compassionate and taking the time to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: really dive into those people.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I think, maybe more so in the last year than before,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I started to really understand.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: What can come from listening in that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Sometimes when we have these moments and things don't go
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: as planned and we're trying to process it, all we
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: want to do is talk to someone about it. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: that conversation isn't necessarily meant for that other individual to
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: provide feedback, but rather hopefully just to hold space. And
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: it seems as though at that time maybe that was
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: something that you hadn't really focused in on yet.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Either.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: No, definitely not. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, just creating that space for them to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: just even if it's silence, like just sitting there and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: sitting with them and knowing that you're there, Like I,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: like you said, I think that would have been head
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and to like above what I what, I didn't even
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: attempt to do anything. It's just you know, a text
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: here and there. But like that's kind of lame, you know.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: So did you have any sort of circumstance, whether it
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: was with London or with Rio or going forward, where
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: maybe someone had articulated that to you.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had a few coaches along the way
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that just like like acknowledgment of not acknowledgment, but just
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like an awareness around how my actions.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Were being perceived by others.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Now, I feel like I'm a very I come across
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: as one manner like I'm very like stoic. I have
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: this like external face, thank you my dad, and that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it's not that I look angry, but I'm not. And
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I think that often is perceived in a manner that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: is not what is really like in my heart and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: how I actually feel. And so but I think also
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: my actions like in practice, like I would sit at
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the end of the bench or you know, like I'm
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: very much a player that I don't really need a
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: lot of noise around me, like I just need to
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: focus on what's happening, and sometimes chatter like talking off
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like I'd rather focus on what the coach is talking about.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And so I was often kind of on my own,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: but like it wasn't because I didn't want to be
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: around my teammates or didn't like them, you know. And
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: so but that awareness piece around, Hey, but what do
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you think your teammates think of you when you do that?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Like and didn't even know, wasn't even aware. And so
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just really grateful for that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that sometimes individuals have trouble opening themselves
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: up to that level of self awareness or even like
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: having some inquisition around that, because it can make us
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: feel as though we're doing something wrong by being how
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: we are. It doesn't necessarily even mean that you need
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to change a behavior pattern. It just means that you
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: need to be cognizant of how something about you may
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: be interpreted by others.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Yep, a thousand percent.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But I but honestly in my heart at the time,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: like I was like, I'm open to feedback and I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: want to hear those things. But I think most people
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: even were attimidated to tell me those things, you know.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: And so to have someone to even sit down and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like have the time to say, hey, like whoa I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: would have I would have done something way different, like
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: tell me, you know, like I don't want to be
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I want to be better, you know.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's like coming at those conversations
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: with grace and like openness.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I get so many messages from women.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I mean this makes me think about like female friendships,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: for example, and as you get older, especially a lot
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: of the time, like our friendships, they ebb and flow,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: and some can be based on proximity and others can
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: be based on a mutual interest. And there are so
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: many reasons that these relationships do they that they do
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: ebb and flow, But coming to terms with that can
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: be like really difficult, and opening yourself up to.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Feedback that you may be scared to get is a
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: really scary thing to do.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: It really is? It? Really is?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I listened to a podcast how it was like really
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: hard to like make friends in your thirties and forties
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: because you're just like like yeah, like you said, ebb
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and flow, Like is it worth the time?
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: You know? Is if I am I going to move?
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Like is it? Basically? Yeah, a proximity?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Like there's so many things and we're still trying to navigate,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: like who we are as, you know, adults and what
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: we want in a friend. And yeah, I think you
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: said it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: You said it perfectly, So let's talk.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you can't forget Rio, but I'm going
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: to fast forward us here a little bit to Tokyo.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Nothing like you thought it would be, but everything and
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: more question mark.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a perfect, perfect stamp right there. Yeah, it's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I am ultimate and I think our team can attest
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: to this. If we the Olympics were in twenty twenty
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: how they were supposed to be. I don't think we
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: walk away.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: With the gold medal, huh. Why?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Our team was just in very different place. We had
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: some newcomers coming in, Like our relationship with our staff
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: like wasn't I wouldn't say it wasn't great, but it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: just it wasn't where we feel like it needed to be.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I think there was some turmoil on like who they
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: selected and whatever, and so we just weren't in a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: great place. And so to have the pandemic and just
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: shut down everything and basically rebuild our culture. How do
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: we want to talk to each other? How do we
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: want to you know, manage an issue or if we
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: have a problem with staff, how do we want to
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: acknowledge it? And so having all those conversations have led
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: to just something so much bigger than I could have
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: ever dreamed about. So it's really something so special.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: What worked best in a time that everything felt like
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: it wasn't supposed to be.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this answered it, but I was
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: surprised by we would have meetings on Zoom and how
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: vulnerable people were able to be even on a screen,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and how we were able to work through
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: some things that were hard. I think that really set
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: us up for success. I don't know if that answers
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: your question, because I mean toulate your question.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: No, it totally, It totally answers the question.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people kind of surprise themselves
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: in the way they were able to open up with
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: people that they didn't know so well over the last
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: sixteen eighteen months, and that like even within my community,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the hurdlers as I call them, we started doing a
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: lot of digital programming and to have the opportunity to
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: bring together mostly women from all over the world, of
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: women calling in from Hong Kong and Canada and like
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica and to get together with strangers and like
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: feel okay, getting vulnerable. It's like really it's a really
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: special thing because in that vulnerability like can come a
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: lot of growth.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, absolutely, And I think that's what I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: think during the process, people are like, oh, another meeting another,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like especially as an athlete, like you're just
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: like you're tired, right, and you're just like want some
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: time to shut down. But I think we could all
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: say now that it was so worth it. And I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: think people bought into now, like hey, like having these
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: talks like meet a lot and they pay off, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like you said, being vulnerable, like that's the only way
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: you grow. It's really special when you when you can
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: do it as a team and find this comhesive unit.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you find it in some
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: of your like work relationships or whatever, but as a team,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: like sometimes you're not gonna fully agree with the person
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: next to you, you know, and you know, but ultimately
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: there's this like mutual respect. Hey, I respect you for
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: who you are and what you bring to the game,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and we're going to work together and whatever capacity that
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is for something that's much bigger than us. And if
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: we can figure out how to drop our shit excuse
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: my language, and be able to just move on and
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: play together. Then like, that's that's the epitome. That's that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: where success is really really meant to be for sure.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: So you've got to tell us what's it really like
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: at the Olympics.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially this year.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: What is it really like at the Olympics this year
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: to be there, to be in the village.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Give us the lowdown.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I would say that I'm grateful that
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I have been able to experience what Olympics is with
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like bands and family there and because it was just
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: much different.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: But it was.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Ultimately grateful that they were able to pull it off
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and that we got to participate and that it actually happened.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's that was that was awesome. But the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, the village is always cool. You're around other
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: athletes that are at the highest of their their sport,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: and we don't get to see that a lot, like
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: everyday training we're just folly ball only, and so seeing
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that is really cool and seeing and being able to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: watch other sports.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: We actually didn't get to go to any of the sports,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: which was weird.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all in the village together and we're
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: far away in an event, like why can't we go watch?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Like doesn't make sense, so but we get watched on TV.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And so there's just like this camaraderie like with Team USA.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it's it's something something indescribable
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: and really cool.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: What athlete were you the most starstruck to meet?
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Oh? I don't know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I would probably say like Alison Felix, probably like she
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: she was, I know, she was on our bus too.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So it's really cool about the Olympics is that USA
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: has like a high performance training center.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: So if most.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Delegations have their own performance their own training center, because
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: otherwise you're at the mercy of the Olympic Committee to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like organize stuff for you and sometimes it's not on
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the timeframe that you want. So we're lucky that our
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: delegation is so big that we have our own facilities.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So she was actually on the bus to go to
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the high Performance training center with us. But I mean,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you just you want them to like have
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: their space and like, you know, act like.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: You're part you're like part of it. I mean, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: mean you are.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: But it's like we're very different levels, you know, so
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you know, we're all just like too scared, but like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: but who is it? Who that is? And yeah it
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: was it was cool.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: You know It's crazy though, like if you for a
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: second take a step out of your body and understand
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that you know, you have over one hundred thousand people
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: that follow you on social media, many of those like
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: young women who look up to you and your journey,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and if they had the chance to be sat on
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: a bus for a drive that takes too long, however long,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: they would feel like the exact same way. Like what
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: do you you feel in these moments when you realize
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: that you are also someone not only of influence, but
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: that has the opportunity now through your platform, to inspire
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: so many Yeah.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I it just makes me so much like so grateful,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and I think it's I think it's not funny because
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: that's not a great word to describe it, but just
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: like I feel just so much like I'm just Jordan,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not Jordan Larsen VLL. I'm just
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: like a normal person and so like I love having
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: those conversations with people because I just think, hey, I
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: was in especially young girls and like I was in
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: your shoes at one point, like there, if you have
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: a dream, like, go for it, like you just never know,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: and if you're willing to put in the time and effort,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: like it could pay off, and if you if you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: really work hard at it, like you could be sitting
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: here today too, Like I never thought that I at
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the capacity that I yeah, okay, I wanted those things,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: but gosh, to see where it's all come, Like, there's
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: no way I couldn't have even dreamed about it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: What was more intimidating walking out onto the floor for
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the gold medal match or walking out to throw out
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the first pitch at the Dodgers game.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know if either.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think I'm like at the point in my
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: career where I'm just like, whatever happens to happens, you know,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: like if you do, you know, if you mess up,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you mess up, and it's like is what it is.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: But I will tell you something that's kind of cool,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: not kind of cool, but just I can't believe that
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I was kind of a mess before the gold medal match.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not an emotional person. I don't cry often. It
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: takes a lot for me to get emotional, and I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: think I cried more twenty four hours leading up to
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the gold medal match than I think I have in.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: My entire career. I was standing in the shower, I think,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: just crying.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I look over at my teammate for Luca, who has
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: been my really good frien and for all the years
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I've been on the national team, knowing that it's my
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: last to play with her, probably my last in the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: USA uniform, and I just were riding into the gym
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and I just I lose it and I'm like crying,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and Fluca's looking on me. She's like, what are you doing.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: We're about to go play this match, like get you,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: get your stuff together, and I'm just like, I don't
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: know what's happened to me.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I just I think the weight of it, the I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: just I couldn't keep it together, and it was it
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: was so surreal, so so crazy to me because I'm
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: just not that kind of person.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Ever.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's mostly just the culmination of, like
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: we said, twenty two years of volleyball. I mean, this
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: was the one thing that you hadn't checked off yet.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: The gold medal was the thing that you had to
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: check off on the Olympic stage.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And then I think it was just like I wanted
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: it so bad right Like it was just like, oh
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: if I if I could get that, and like and
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to feel how I was feeling going into the Olympics,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: like I didn't. I wasn't feeling super confident. I was
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: doubting a lot of things.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: I was like all.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: These things, like because I knew it was like this
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: is it, this is my last shot and it has
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to be this way and you know it has to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: be perfect.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: And to like let go of that and like to
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: actually be in a spot where I had a shot,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: It's like, WHOA.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Why did you feel like you were doubting yourself leading
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: up to it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I So the one thing in volleyball that I'm probably
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: known most for is my ability to pass the ball.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: And that my team was just serving me a lot
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and I don't really see a lot of serves often,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and I was not holding up very well. I was shanking,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I was just not doing well for our team. And
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I was chosen to play and start for our team,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, I had better get
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: my stuff together because this can't show up at the Olympics,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and so I was really just nervous for that. I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was nervous that I had to be this like perfect,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I had to kill every ball, I have
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: to do X, Y and Z, and it's just like
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I got I had to get out of that headspace.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: But I like kept going into that headspace and I'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: like why, why, why is this happening? And so I
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: just because I had really never felt that way before
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and it was concerning to me a little bit.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Twenty two years of volleyball three Olympics. When you reflect
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: on this time period, what would you say one of
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: your greatest takeaways has been trust.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: In the work that I have put in. I've done
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: it every day, and I think that's where ultimately I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: settled going into Olympics. Like Jordan, why are you doubting yourself?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Like you've done this every day of your life and
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to almost every day to the best of your ability,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: So like you're you're ready, You're ready for this moment,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: You're ready for this time, and to know that with
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: everything that ipproach in life, like if I put in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the time and dedication that I've done and dedicated to
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the sport, like it's going to be okay, And I'm
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: just just so.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Grateful trusting in the training.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's something that I hear a lot as
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: an avid runner and a marathon or I mean, you
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: go through in my case, three months plus of training
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: to lead up to one day. In your case, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: mean months and years of training to get to this
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: world stage.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of pressure on that final day.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: But I think you and I can both agree that
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: if you base the success of that entire journey on
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: this one moment, then maybe you're not interpreting the value
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of the journey as to what it really is.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Very well said, I think I had to also get
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: to that point at this Olympics. Hey, if I don't
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: perform as I want or how I feel like this
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: should at, the outcome should be Am I going to
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: be okay?
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: And the question is the answer is yes.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's like you said, if you feel like you've
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: done everything you can, you've prepared yourself and it doesn't
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: turn how it out, it's a learning experience. You take
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: something from it, you learn from it, you move on,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: and that's what it is you set it to perfect example.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting too because in reflecting just now, it
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: sounded very much like the lessons that you learned when
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: you split from your ex husband, right, Yeah, you had
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: to get to a point where you weren't angry with
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: yourself about maybe things not going the way that the
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: storybook would go, right, And that's not easy.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: No, definitely not. Yeah.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Nobody like nobody gets married hoping that they get divorced,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: like nobody wants that, right, it's not, you know, And
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: nobody puts in the time. They want to be successful
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: at what they do and fail, you know. Nobody wants that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: They want the Cinderella story, you know. But sometimes it
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't end up like that. But I still think there's
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: lessons to be learned and things to get better at,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and time to put in to make it worth it,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: because it really is.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And yes, it really is.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So I referenced to four having over one hundred thousand
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: people following me on social media. Let me correct myself.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: We're at one hundred and thirty nine thousand and growing.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Right now. Someone comes to your.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Page, they see a newly married American volleyball player, a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Nike athlete, a three time Olympic medalist. You look in
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: the mirror what is it that you see looking back
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: at you?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Wow, you you asked such great questions, and I want
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to ask you questions. I love getting to know why
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: you podcasts.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, right.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I see a young girl that just was willing to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: do whatever it took and trusted the process and trusted
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the work ethic, and trusted those around her to be
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: sitting in this chair today and to have a pretty
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: cool journey.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Something we didn't touch on yet is that you were
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: the captain of the team for you, beyond the title.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: What does that really mean?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I think, like you said to me, it was just
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: always a title. Like I always try to be really
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: authentic to who I was, and I think the older
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I got in my career, I had to learn to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: be more of a vocal leader. I think in the past,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I was always more of a leader by action, my
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: work ethic, how I showed up to the gym, how
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I got after and practice, how I did X, Y
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and Z. But as I've gotten older, I've had to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: learn of how do I get to know my teammates
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and understand what makes them the best version of themselves
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and how can I adapt to them to make to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: get the best out of them, and that's getting to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: know them off the court and.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Building that part of it.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: And so I've really tried to expand that captainship and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that leadership role. But ultimately, like you said, it is
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: just a title. But I've just tried to be authentic
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to who I am.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting because I'm about to do something that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I've never done because you expressed interest in doing this,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to allow you the opportunity to ask
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: me a question. But in doing this, I also understand
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: that you've been kind of like flying by the seat
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: of your pants answering all my questions for the last
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: hour or so.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot of pressure with me
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: handing you like your own microphone.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm gonna take a seat back for
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: a second, and I'm gonna let you ask me something.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's sometimes where I not struggle with podcasts
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: because I love them and I think they're so great
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and I love having the cop but I think it
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: should be more of a conversation, right and it is,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: But like, why are you getting into this space of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: being a podcast and why do you want to continue
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: to to kind of navigate through this space and what
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: got you you tobe this point.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, well this would be a whole lot of
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: sixty minute episode yea. For more context, Jordan, I'll send
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: you episode one of the show. But what I will
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: say is you asked me, like, why do I keep going?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: So to speak?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: And I think that as someone who has made it
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: her mission to like help people in community and empower
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: them on their journeys to feel less alone, I keep
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: going because I know what it feels like to feel alone.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I back in college, had my own fair share of
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: struggles and felt.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Really lonely on my journey to learning who I was.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I waited a lot more at the time and felt really.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Just beside myself because I didn't feel at home in
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: my body.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: And so for me to now be in a place
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: where I've defined what healthy looks like for me, and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: that includes pizza Friday, and it also includes running marathons
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: when I'm off the injured list, I know that the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: power in that, and I know how great it is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to get to a place where you feel confident in
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: knowing what balance looks like for you. And I know
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: that I have the opportunity through these conversations with women
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: like yourself to help people figure out how to do that,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: how to do that too. And so I take a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: lot of joy in that, and I take a lot
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: of pride in that, and I think about the things
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: that I like to do most in my life, and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I'm so lucky, beyond lucky, and so grateful that having
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: these conversations is something that I can do for work too.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's amazing.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: And like I think you asked me a couple of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: times what got me out of that space? And what
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: do you feel like has gotten you the most out
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: of that space? And like to get you to like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you said to this point, like is it journaling?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: How how did you?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I think something that I have done but maybe have
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: gotten even better at doing is in my journey of
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: independence and coming into my home and feeling really confident
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: by myself. I've also learned the importance of asking for help.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: And I think so many of us feel as though
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: maybe we're doing something wrong when we look for outside
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: guidance or we feel as though we're messing up. When
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: you reach out to a friend and you're like, hey,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I kind of need you right now, because so many
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: of us don't want to feel like it's an inconvenience, right,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: And so for me, what helps me on my mission
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: to help other people is being okay with asking for
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: help and knowing that that doesn't make me any lesser
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: than And that doesn't mean that I'm not okay on
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: my own. It just means that, like I need support,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: and the fact is is that we all need support.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course the things that we mentioned, like journaling.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Journaling is a huge tool for me, but sometimes you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: just need a little bit more, and it's okay to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: need more. It's okay to want more, and to remove
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: that judgment from that space, like it changes absolutely everything.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I did want to ask you before I ask you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: the final question you mentioned right now, navigating a little
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: bit of an achilles situation.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Can you talk to me a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So kind of when I came started this summer,
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  Speaker 1: I was just having like a little bit of Achilles pain,
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what it was. Like I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was tape because I tape my ankles every day,
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  Speaker 1: but it just wasn't going away, and so we had
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  Speaker 1: to like change my taping and then I still was
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  Speaker 1: having some issues and starting some antim inmplammatories and that
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  Speaker 1: seemed to help.
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  Speaker 4: But I still I kind of have a bump on
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  Speaker 4: the back of my achilles.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it's from, but every time I
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  Speaker 1: go to like really extend or push off of it,
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  Speaker 1: it's just super tender. So I met with the trainer
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, knowing your age and just kind of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 4: Like, my age, Oh my god, I'm so young.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, so I just I actually got an
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  Speaker 1: MRIA yesterday just to make sure that we have the
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  Speaker 1: proper treatment plan, and I kind of that in place,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know the results yet, so I'm waiting
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  Speaker 1: on that.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know anticipation, but oh.
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  Speaker 3: My god, you'll have to fill me in.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think it's just like we're and tear over.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Like I think, just yeah, dumping a lot, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have my.
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  Speaker 2: God, the body is like such a thing. It's such
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. It can also be such like a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: scary thing. We want all of the answers, we have
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: none of the answers. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I sympathize, all right, all right.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Last question here, Okay, right, now, you have an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to offer the Jordan going through her divorce trying to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: navigate living somewhere unfamiliar, a piece of advice looking back
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: on that hurdle moment right now, what do you tell her.
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  Speaker 4: Piece of advice? I think just continuing to stay.
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  Speaker 1: I keep saying that present like as much as like
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  Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, enjoy breakfast, enjoy lunch, enjoy
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  Speaker 1: coffee in the afternoon, like you said, asking for help,
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  Speaker 1: just being okay and almost sitting in it, like that's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: that phrase sounds so weird, but like sitting in those
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: feelings and like unpacked what's really going on, because that's
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  Speaker 1: when you're going to get to the root of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it takes time and it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to happen overnight. And but knowing on the other end
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  Speaker 1: of it again like it's going to all work out.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Two things that someone said to me once, one was
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: be where your feet are. And the second thing that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I always think about when I feel like I'm getting
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: a little worked up and I'm having trouble staying in
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  Speaker 2: the moment is come back to calm amen. I always,
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  Speaker 2: I always, always, always try to come back to calm. Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time and your takeaways.
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  Speaker 2: How do the hurdlers keep up with you? How do
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: they fall along with you? Give us all the details.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thanks thanks for having me on. Yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: My Instagram handle is gov ten zero seven random. Yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: so my nickname is called the Governor because my best
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: friend Feluca, we were in Taile. This is kind of
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: a long story in Thailand. There's a Nebraska fan there.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: She's like, the guy's like, I know your dad, and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Luca's like seriously, and they're Husker fans everywhere, and so
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: she told her brother and her brother is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean she's like the Governor. So then I said
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: it as a joke and now it's just become a thing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's theme part of the brand, so that they
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: call me gov. And then that's kind of the rest
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: of history. And then I am on Facebook. Still I
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: don't think Facebook's a thing much anymore. And then I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: have Twitter as well. Jordan Larcenton is my Twitter handle,
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  Speaker 1: so love it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I'm over at MLA Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another
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  Speaker 2: Hurdle Conquered.
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  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.