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One Piece, 888-890 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes eight eighty eight through eight ninety
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  Speaker 1: Sabo enraged, the tragedy of the Revolutionary Army officer Kuma.
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  Speaker 1: Finally it starts the conspiracy filled Reverie and Marco, the
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  Speaker 1: keeper of Whitebeard's last Memento. In these episodes, we are
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  Speaker 1: still pretty flashback heavy, but we are getting a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of what's going on currently, and Sabo sneaking about
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  Speaker 1: doing his thing, and I am really not sure how
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  Speaker 1: the straw hats are going to fit into things. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Florian for commissioning this episode. Florian,
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  Speaker 1: I think is still here in the chat. Sorry about
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  Speaker 1: the weird start. Everybody who is here but seems to
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  Speaker 1: be working okay now, So yeah, it's it is kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird the number of episodes in a row we
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  Speaker 1: get that are so flashback heavy. It makes sense because
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  Speaker 1: we're the whole thing with the Reverie is that we're
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  Speaker 1: getting a ton of people that we have met over
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  Speaker 1: the course of the series, and so it is smart
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  Speaker 1: to just refresh and make sure that we remember where
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  Speaker 1: everybody is from, and you know why they're in important
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  Speaker 1: basic things like what their names are. You all know me.
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  Speaker 1: Despite this, I am still going to need some help
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  Speaker 1: in the chat, so forgive me. If you have watched
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  Speaker 1: the show a million times, please recall I haven't, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember everything. But I for those who were
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  Speaker 1: listening in the last episode, I actually watched this out
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  Speaker 1: of order by accident. So I had already seen these
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  Speaker 1: episodes before I recorded on the previous episodes and was
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  Speaker 1: very confused about why Shira Ho Shehi was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: needing medical aid. And now I have the context for that,
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  Speaker 1: and so I understand some things a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: So starting with eight eighty eight, Sabo enraged, we get
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  Speaker 1: the reminder of the backstory of Kuma, and it's such
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  Speaker 1: a weird thing because correct me obviously if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: I think I am right. Kuma didn't just get grabbed
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  Speaker 1: up and turned into a robot. It seems that the
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  Speaker 1: suggestion is he got slowly all of his parts replaced
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  Speaker 1: until he was a robot like that. This is because
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  Speaker 1: I think the turn of phrase, and again I'm checking
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  Speaker 1: on this because I know that sometimes the translation is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a little different than the original, so
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I understand this. But the
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  Speaker 1: way that the narrator in the dub describes it is
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  Speaker 1: that like there was some remaining personality and will of
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  Speaker 1: his own still in him when he helped the straw
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  Speaker 1: Hats that time, So it wasn't like he his personality
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  Speaker 1: had been totally eclipsed by what was being done to him,
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  Speaker 1: But it was made to sound like this was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a struggle for him to break through whatever
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  Speaker 1: was like controlling him or whatever his orders were, and
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  Speaker 1: that it's sort of the last time that he was
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  Speaker 1: truly himself that we saw at least. You know, Seraphim
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  Speaker 1: from Fake Fan probably doesn't even know who mayor whoop
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  Speaker 1: Slap is? Is that real? Who the fuck is mayor
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  Speaker 1: whoop Slap? Sir Seraphim, Who's that? Uh? Saraphim says, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was a process that finished with him losing any
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  Speaker 1: sense of self. Between Sabaudi and Marine Ford, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: thinking back to when the information is eventually dropped about
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  Speaker 1: how Kuma is not himself anymore, I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: had kind of I feel like I had a really
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  Speaker 1: low key reaction because Kuma just didn't really mean anything
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  Speaker 1: to me. At this point, I didn't understand where all
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  Speaker 1: of this fit in in terms of the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the narrative. You know, I think that now when I
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: come across this beat in the story, Oh it's the
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  Speaker 1: mayor of Lufy's hometown, thank you, Sarah him. I think
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  Speaker 1: that now when I come across this story beat, it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot more affecting. It's not like trying to find
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  Speaker 1: the way to like really describe vibe because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten to know more about Kuma. It's not really like
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  Speaker 1: I'm more invested in him as a person, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: not really it. It's more that the I think the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge more of like the world government and what it's
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  Speaker 1: willing to do, the links they're willing to go to.
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  Speaker 1: I understand a little bit more about what potentially might
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  Speaker 1: have been happening to him. We get a flashback with
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  Speaker 1: Do Flamingo talking to I cannot remember their name, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: the drag queen, the frankenfter, you know, the one what
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  Speaker 1: is their name? But it's when Eva, thank you Florian
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  Speaker 1: or Iva. I'm gonna say Eva, but the flashback is
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  Speaker 1: Eva across Kuma and they had been old friends, and
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  Speaker 1: Eva being like, why don't you recognize me? And Del
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  Speaker 1: Flamingo has to explain to Eva that he isn't himself anymore.
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  Speaker 1: His personality is gone. This isn't the Kuma that you knew,
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  Speaker 1: And the way that he frames it is he volunteered
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  Speaker 1: to be part of an experiment, which Eva is straight
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  Speaker 1: up like, bullshit. I don't believe you. He hates the
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  Speaker 1: world government. Why would he ever fucking do that. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not it. That's simply I just don't believe you.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, fair I agree, there is something about this
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  Speaker 1: that feels really insidious and gross and something that I
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  Speaker 1: there has to be an element in here of either
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  Speaker 1: it was coerced or he agreed to something that they
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  Speaker 1: lied about. Maybe he thought it was going to be
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  Speaker 1: something and it turns out to be a different thing entirely,
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  Speaker 1: I honestly I don't. I don't know, but I am
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  Speaker 1: growing a lot more curious about what was going on
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  Speaker 1: with Kuma in general now because I've grown more interested
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  Speaker 1: in the dynamics of this world due to feeling a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more settled in the story. I think, and
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  Speaker 1: I believe having a little bit more of a frame
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  Speaker 1: of reference of how one plot line is affecting other
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  Speaker 1: plot lines. At the beginnings of one piece, there is
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: so much going on, and there are so many characters
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  Speaker 1: dropped into your lap, and there's so many weird implications
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  Speaker 1: of things that you can't really keep track of everything
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  Speaker 1: in a way that makes sense in context, because most
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: of it is happening without context initially, and it's just
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  Speaker 1: sort of putting a piece in place for the context
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  Speaker 1: to eventually be given to us way later down the line.
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  Speaker 1: And it was something that I had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: trouble with, I'm sure y'all remember where it was just
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't know what to pay attention to and
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  Speaker 1: what not to pay attention to because I was so
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  Speaker 1: caught up in certain things that didn't wind up going
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  Speaker 1: anywhere right away, and then there were other things that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really that engaged by, but it turned out
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  Speaker 1: that was the plot line that ODO was going to
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  Speaker 1: focus on now, and so whether I was interested or
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  Speaker 1: not irrelevant, you know. And it could be really hard
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  Speaker 1: for me to really connect sometimes with the arcs because
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  Speaker 1: you just don't know what's going to be relevant where,
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  Speaker 1: and the relevant sometimes just takes a very long time
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  Speaker 1: to fucking manifest at all, you know. So all that
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  Speaker 1: to say, everything coming back around with Kuma here is
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  Speaker 1: really feeling like we're finally getting a payoff and a
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  Speaker 1: context for a character that was presented in such a
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  Speaker 1: way that obviously he was like important, but the import
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  Speaker 1: of him was really at the time just about how
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  Speaker 1: powerful he was, and eventually about how, oh, this isn't
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  Speaker 1: him anymore, and it wasn't enough for me because I
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  Speaker 1: don't care if it's still him. Really, I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: to know him. I knew that he was like trying
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  Speaker 1: to help us and that he was kind of on
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  Speaker 1: our side, but even when he was on our side,
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  Speaker 1: there was a weirdness to him that I was just
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  Speaker 1: sort of like, what the fuck is going on with you?
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  Speaker 1: And so when he turns up and he's not really himself,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I don't really know what could possibly be going on,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just sort of like, oh, that's weird, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting it. And so this time around,
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  Speaker 1: getting these flashbacks and this context, I was like a
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  Speaker 1: lot more like, oh, yeah, something here is really really wrong,
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  Speaker 1: especially considering that like he had told us that he
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  Speaker 1: was a member of the Rebel army at some point,
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  Speaker 1: so like he was friends with Sabo, which we see
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  Speaker 1: later on the way that Sabo is reacting to seeing
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  Speaker 1: him being brutalized. It's really really strange, y'all because the
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  Speaker 1: impression again that I'm getting is that the Kuma that
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  Speaker 1: they are brutalizing isn't really Kuma anymore. And I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to remember who it is that stops Oh, I remember,
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  Speaker 1: because Sabo is like about to attack when he sees us.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I have to do this now, right, This
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  Speaker 1: is the it's the crow man, whose name I already forgot,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm using my sound effects anyway. But he stops
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  Speaker 1: Sabo just before bro is about to light up some
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  Speaker 1: folks' asses. And I mean that very literally. I keep
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  Speaker 1: forgetting Sabo's eating the flame flame fruit, and so when
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  Speaker 1: he has his fist turn on fire, I'm just like what,
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  Speaker 1: oh right, But he stops Sabo just before he really
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  Speaker 1: puts himself out there, and he says to Sabo, even
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  Speaker 1: if we were to save him right now, he isn't
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  Speaker 1: the same person and we can't undo what was done
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  Speaker 1: to him. Oh that fucking sucks like so then, like
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  Speaker 1: I so much of the way that this story works. Overall,
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  Speaker 1: it tends to be in a way that I criticized
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  Speaker 1: a lot with like Doctor Who, but which I accept
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  Speaker 1: with one piece because it takes itself much less seriously. Overall,
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  Speaker 1: it tends to be we find a way out of
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  Speaker 1: a seemingly impossible situation eventually and it just turns into
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  Speaker 1: its own mission. And so while it seems like there's
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  Speaker 1: no hope for a certain thing, eventually it turns out
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  Speaker 1: there is something to be done that can undo it.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, there are properties in which I
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  Speaker 1: do not have patience for this trope, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that things need to be like need to fucking happen
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  Speaker 1: and stay having happened, and not be easily undone one piece,
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  Speaker 1: For the most part, I'm fine with that. There there
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  Speaker 1: have been a few times that pell is here in
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  Speaker 1: this episode. There have been a few times where I
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  Speaker 1: haven't liked the way that's been handled, But I have
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  Speaker 1: to assume something can be done eventually to bring back
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  Speaker 1: the Kuma that we know or or kind of new.
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  Speaker 1: I say no, but I didn't really know. It's more
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  Speaker 1: that Sabo new, you know, and I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: idea what that is. If, like it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: that his personality is in there somewhere, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: been really suppressed. And if something were to be you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they tweaked something, there would be his personality rising
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  Speaker 1: to the surface again somehow, maybe, And Saraphim's says, Karasu
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  Speaker 1: who is which is Japanese for murder of crows? I
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  Speaker 1: will never remember that name. I'm so sorry, guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just just gonna be crow guy for me, But I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna try Karasu, Karasu Karasu. I am assuming
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  Speaker 1: that part of the reason that we did this to
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  Speaker 1: Kuma is purely to fuck with the rebel army. Like
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is we want to show them our
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  Speaker 1: power and that we can take their friends from them,
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  Speaker 1: they're loyal followers, true believers, and turn them into a
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  Speaker 1: tool that doesn't even have like any agency anymore, and
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  Speaker 1: that it's just kind of a humiliation thing for the
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  Speaker 1: fun of it. It's interesting to see how because we've
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of the select Jill Dragon's here who
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  Speaker 1: are talking about the one Kuma that they have got
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  Speaker 1: custody of, which I think is the original because there's
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  Speaker 1: been a bunch of copies made of him. By now
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: they take turns having custody of him, and he is apparently, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a very sought after book at the library
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  Speaker 1: where there's just a wait list that's like months long,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody is very excited for when they get their
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  Speaker 1: chance to have Kuma as their slave, and also mount
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  Speaker 1: because they evidently like ride him places. It's something and
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  Speaker 1: when Sabo sees them, he is like watching them beat
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  Speaker 1: up Kuma, who does bleed, which I wasn't expecting. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of thought he was going to end up fully
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  Speaker 1: a robot, but it seems like he's a cyborg, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like Frankie, So there's actual bleeding, but there's no reaction.
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  Speaker 1: And it's such a weird thing because bullies who like
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  Speaker 1: to beat on people all have their own weird motivations
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  Speaker 1: for doing this. Right, Some people are doing this because
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  Speaker 1: they were laid low by that person and they're enjoying
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  Speaker 1: getting a bit of their own back. Some people are
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  Speaker 1: just bullies who like to feel like they have power
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  Speaker 1: over other people and they just get off on this.
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  Speaker 1: In general, some people it's a means of transferring their
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: frustration at like being bullied by someone else in their
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  Speaker 1: own life, and so they take advantage of a chance
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  Speaker 1: to bully when they get it, because it's like five,
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  Speaker 1: I am not on the receiving end. What it feels
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  Speaker 1: like is purely with the celestial dragons is that they
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  Speaker 1: are simply assholes who love power and love exercising that
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  Speaker 1: power over other people. It's like, if not something that
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  Speaker 1: they are literally born with, at least something that they
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  Speaker 1: are taught to be so thoroughly that it takes a
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  Speaker 1: hell of a lot of undoing that brainwashing for them
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  Speaker 1: to turn back into a person with empathy, which we
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  Speaker 1: do see the one who there comes a point. I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember who it is that says it, but they're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: they're talking to the celestial dragon who turned on his family,
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  Speaker 1: and I think she says something like, do I have
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  Speaker 1: permission to beat the fuck out of some celestial dragons now?
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  Speaker 1: And he actually says yes, I will take full responsibility
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  Speaker 1: for whatever happens. You can protect your people as aggressively
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  Speaker 1: as you see fit, which I admit I was kind
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  Speaker 1: of impressed by. There was almost a part of me
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  Speaker 1: that was suspicious, like, are they being set up? You know,
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  Speaker 1: him saying I take full responsibility. How much is he
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  Speaker 1: allowed to take full responsibility? What I mean by that
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  Speaker 1: is it's one thing to say you'll take it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's another thing for them to actually let you do that.
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  Speaker 1: Where somebody attacks them to defend a friend, and you
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  Speaker 1: come forward and be like I told them, they were
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  Speaker 1: allowed I take responsibility. They can still just kill that
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  Speaker 1: person and then slap the shit out of you. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's not It is not at
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  Speaker 1: all a mutually exclusive situation. So I was just sort
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  Speaker 1: of like, I appreciated the thought, but I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: sure in practice exactly how useful this is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I bring up like the motivations behind bullying, because
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  Speaker 1: I find it interesting that the celestial dragons are enjoying
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  Speaker 1: beating up a kuma who doesn't seem to know what
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  Speaker 1: is happening to him, or a kuma who is at
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  Speaker 1: the very least not reacting. And that is what one
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  Speaker 1: of them specifically says, is like he doesn't scream or anything.
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  Speaker 1: He's the perfect slave, like which there are folks out
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  Speaker 1: there who when they hit somebody, want the screaming. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the appeal to them is getting the reaction of
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  Speaker 1: fear and pain out of another person, and so if
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  Speaker 1: they don't scream, that person doesn't feel satisfied. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that they are satisfied despite the fact that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: scream or have really any reaction at all, seemingly leads
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  Speaker 1: me to believe they knew him before and maybe that
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  Speaker 1: there is a spark of the original in there that
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  Speaker 1: they know is powerless. So what they are enjoying about
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  Speaker 1: it isn't overt to me viewing it, but it is
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  Speaker 1: due to some kind of knowledge of the situation that
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  Speaker 1: they have that makes this feel really satisfying, despite a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the usual hallmarks of bullying not being present
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  Speaker 1: as like a consequence, you know. So that makes me
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: think that Kuma is maybe in there, and maybe we
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  Speaker 1: can get him back out. I don't know what again,
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  Speaker 1: what that would even look like, And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that means for the bunch of other robot Kumas
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  Speaker 1: that we have made, whom I am assuming those Kumas
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  Speaker 1: don't bleed. Maybe they do, and I'm just but that
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  Speaker 1: was my assumption. It's like that those are straight up robots,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe they're cyborgs too. I don't know anyway, Suffice
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  Speaker 1: to say, we get a bunch of the flashbacks about
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  Speaker 1: Kuma and what he was like when he first encounters
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Zoro and helps all of the straw Hats out, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know, the way that he has clearly been taken
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: control of, and that pretty much is like all of
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: episode eight eighty eight, then eighty nine. Finally it starts
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy filled reverie. It's sort of an odd one
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: because so sorry, I'm trying to skip the intro here,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: crunchy roll is not reacting well to me, pausing and
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  Speaker 1: then going over to the tab where my life is
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  Speaker 1: happening so that I can see the chat. It keeps
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: going to the full like episode menu when I stay
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  Speaker 1: away for too long, so I have to like restart
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  Speaker 1: it and rEFInd my place in it. So anyway, the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: chat between Sabo and the rest of his crew, he
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: is saying like, we're bringing Kuma home, and everybody is saying, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see this mission through. He saved your brother, didn't he,
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  Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, And he says, yeah, at a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: time when I was helpless, back when I still had amnesia.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It was at the sabah Odie Archipelago. We get this like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know, recap of everything that happened here, and we
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  Speaker 1: have when Lufy is like telling everybody not to fight.
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  Speaker 1: We can't win, we're too weak. But some of them
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  Speaker 1: just didn't wouldn't hear of it. But yeah, evidently that's
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  Speaker 1: like the reason that we're here for the Rebel Army
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  Speaker 1: is to get Kuma back, which, uh, I'll be honest, guys,
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  Speaker 1: until we get the flashback with the actual dialogue, I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: didn't remember Kuma saying that he was part of the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: rebel army. I had completely forgotten about that. Once it
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: was mentioned, I did remember, it wasn't sort of like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: oh did he say that? I was like, very I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: very quickly kind of went oh, yeah. But I somewhere
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: along the way he just became somebody who was like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he's working with the enemies. But I know he's not
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: an enemy. And I can't remember details about it, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And I am so curious what he fucking did. I'm
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: so curious why they targeted him the way they did,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: how they caught him, how this whole thing was done
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to him in such a way, Like did they have
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a really terrible hostage that they were like hanging over
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: his head, that they were going to hurt if he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: didn't comply with what they were doing to him. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: feel like that's the only all of this, assuming it
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't a physical overpowering of him and like essentially tying
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: him up and taking him away, which it may have been.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He was just so powerful. I'm really not sure who
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: all is going up against him and winning, you know
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I keep thinking about, like it's not
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that there aren't folks out there that we have seen
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: who had a power set that could compete with his,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: because we definitely did have that. But he is allowed
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to go out into the world partially finished, so to speak,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, partially like all his parts replaced, but not
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: fully transformed yet. And they were like evidently fairly confident
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that he was going to come back and that he
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: was going to continue on with whatever it was they
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: were doing, which just leads me to believe they are
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: holding something over him, and I may just have it wrong,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and that there was something about you know, what I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: keep thinking of in this case, guys, is in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Michael Crichton book Jurassic Park, not in the movie, there
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is a mechanic that they've built into the dinosaurs where
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a certain nutrient in food. I think it's loutine. They
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: will die if they don't get like kind of an
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: excessive amount of it in their diet, and that is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: only provided artificially through the feed from the park, which
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: is allegedly supposed to keep them from being able to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: leave the park itself and survive. Seraphim says Lycene. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that was in the movie too, was it? I didn't
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: remember that, okay, So I'm wondering if it was something
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: like that where he could not survive if he was away,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: for like, there was something that only they could provide
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: for him, and if he didn't come back and get it,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: he would die. I don't feel like that's enough. I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: feel like the way that I have grown to know
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the members of the the Rebel Army, that leads me
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to believe that they would much prefer letting themselves die
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: than to undergo something like this or betray their friends,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like that doesn't really But
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: maybe or perhaps they thought they were sending him in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: there to be like a double agent, and they didn't
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: realize that he was going to get caught perhaps. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: don't know anyway. I know I'm spending a lot of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: time on this, but like I said, I just find
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: myself much more engaged and invested by this story than
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I was before. I'm trying to scrub through because so
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: much of this second episode is a series of flashbacks
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that trying to go to the part where there's actually
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: new things happening, it's so much flashback. Holy shit. Okay,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: oh right, Sabo, because he saved my brother's life in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: because he's our friend, and everybody is very much on board,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: but it was looking like he was about to just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: ruin the whole mission by attacking out of nowhere. So
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that somebody was there to talk some sense
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: into him, because he was gonna fuck it up for everybody. Sabo,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You've got to maintain control of yourself, sir. We go
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: briefly to the Sunny and Lufy is just obsessing over
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: this poster where his bounty is up to one point
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: five billion, so he's just kind of it's almost like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: he's in a catatonic state, but in a positive way.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And they get the newspaper about how the Reverie is
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: starting today, and this is when we get the narrator,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: so the much anticipated event, the Reverie commences. The seas
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of the world are divided into four bodies of water,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: split one way by a massive continental well known as
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the Red Lineings, but the other way by a dangerous
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: stretch of sea known as the Grand Line. Within these
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: waters lines the New World where Luthy is traveling. The
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: World Government is a massive organization encompassing most of the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: world's nations one hundred and seventy in total. Every four years,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: fifty chosen rulers are sent to the Holy Land to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: represent their nations in important negotiations. And all of this
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is accompanied by clips of different people who are taking
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: seats at this like in this huge sort of almost
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like a really upscale castle like conference room. We have
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a dude sitting down who looks like straight up Dracula.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: There's a woman sitting down next to him, who I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: guess is supposed to be with him because they have
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: similar very angular features, but she doesn't seem to have
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the teeth that he has. We Uh, let's see, there's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: somebody who sits down, a woman with like this blonde
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: hair piled up, and I couldn't tell if I was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: supposed to know who she was, because so many of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: these women really do have the exact same face. And
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: let's see, oh right, there's a mention of some pirates
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that were terrorizing the Dracula's island, and he mentions that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Sakazuki like managed to gather up these pirates and put
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: them in impelled down. And then they like wind up
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: talking about Loofy, and you know, he's a very topic
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of conversation right now because of his bounty going up
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and the fact that he is went up against Big
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Mom and survived. She didn't beat her, but I think
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it's pretty clear to everybody the fact that he got
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: away with his life is remarkable in itself. And then
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: somebody says, rumor has it that they're going after Kaido next.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I am really I know that Kaido got a call
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: from Big Mom about Loofy, but I don't remember the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: straw Hats setting their sights on Kaido. I feel like
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I forgot a beat, a story beat somewhere, because this
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: guy is saying like he really knows, and I don't
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: know what's been said publicly that people know about that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: would lead them to this conclusion. If everybody knew about it,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: my assumption would be that there would be a trap
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: laid for him there, because they're trying to catch him. Right.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Oh, yeah, this guy, I must raise the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: question can we even consider them a nation? Perhaps we
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: should make that our business? And oh my god, fucking woppole.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: He is so weird looking right now. I hate this
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: guy so much. But yeah, he is very much the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: topic of conversation, and just everybody is sort of viewing
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: him as a destabilizing force that leaves chaos in his wake,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and we probably should handle him. But we've got King Kobra,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: who is it seems, really trying to deflect this conversation
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: because he is, you know, he's a buddy of Loofy's
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and just jumps in and it's just like, oh, we
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: have a new chair person and just fully derails this conversation.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Sarah M says, we know they were the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: ones who weren't on hole Cake went to Wanta to
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: start laying the groundwork for dealing with Kaido. Oh I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: forgot about that. God, that was such a while ago.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Now I really can't even remember what led to them
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: wanting to do that setting a trap there would require
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: being in Kido's territory, and he's not going to like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: having marines nearby. Fair But why were they going after him?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Or is it because he was the one who attacked
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the Animal Island? Oh my god. I I'm sorry, guys,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: because it's just like the split happened so long ago,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and I just completely lost track of the fact that, like,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of missions happening, and didn't I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: do not remember to help Momo and the Samurai get
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: revenge for killing Mom's dad Momo's dad and the attack
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on Shoe Shoe Uh okay, yes, now I remember fucking Momo.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That's right, Florian says. Also Law wants him down right,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Trafalgar Law is still out here in the mix, Okay.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I wonder what they're making of all of this news.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess everybody is like, ohware that that's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: going on. And I'm just wondering because like I've been
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: sort of assuming that somehow the straw Hats are going
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to wind up at the reverie. I maybe not, maybe
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that's not happening at all. I just I thought there
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was going to be something that like required that you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I think it makes more
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: sense that they're doing their own thing and we're when
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: we're at the Reverie, the thing that's going on is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: really Sabo and the rebels, because Loofy would just show
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: up and announce at the gate, hey, I'm here to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: beat the shit out of all of you, and it
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: would turn into something that I don't think they could win.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Even now the straw hats, even after getting stronger, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna work out. So I just don't
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: see that being narratively something that works. But maybe I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. Sabo is somebody who is actually capable of subterfuge,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Loufy just doesn't do that. So Sabo being
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the main antagonist here and I mean antagonist to all
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: of the members of the world government obviously not an
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: antagonist in our eyes, that does seem like it would
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: make more sense and be easier to deal with. Like
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: story wise, Sarahim says, aside from all that, he's also
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: got one of the four road ponoglyphs. They need to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: find the one piece, right, these ponoglyphs. Yeah, I feel
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like there's sort of the vestige of me kind of going,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I guess I just don't quite care about the ponoglyphs.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: It's still not really sinking in for me. It's the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: sort of thing that I think the idea of actually
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: like finding them all and finally being able to just
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: read it just seems so outlandish that we'll ever find
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the one piece. Like I just sort of went into
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: this show assuming the one piece is the friends they
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: made along the way, and we're not. Actually there's not
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: going to be a treasure. Now allegedly there is, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like this has been confirmed somehow that this
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: is like a thing I am not spoilt. So if
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: they do end up finding it within the show that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: we have so far, I don't know that, but I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: feel like I I don't remember anyway. I just the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: idea of like finding these things that lead us to
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the one piece seems like very low priority to me
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: story wise, because I don't believe we are going to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: get there, and so it's a difficult place to be
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in as a reader where allegedly the whole thing is
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: supposed to be find the one piece and become King
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and the Pirates, and I have pretty much internally shelved
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that happening at any point, and so the pony glyphs
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and the urgency in finding those is something that just
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: has absolutely no impact on me when it comes to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: caring about that like subplot. You know, Saraphim says Oda
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: has said many times there is an actual treasure there,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and ironically this is one of the few stories that
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: actually could make a the friends we made along the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Way things work. Like, just for the record, the friends
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: we made along the Way isn't an inherently bad thing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Like the show has just been going so long, you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: know that assuming they don't find it is reasonable. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad about it. It wouldn't bother me. I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: pretty much kind of like went into this feeling like
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that's not what we're here for, you know. So I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: want to say, like, in no uncertain terms, I am
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: not I don't have the attitude of like, if there's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: no actual treasure and if he doesn't become King of
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the Pirates, I am going to be pissed and feel
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like this is a waste of time. Not at all
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that I don't feel that way at all. It's just
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that I have so completely assumed that part of the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: story isn't going anywhere that whenever we sort of circle
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: back to plot lines that have to do with achieving
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that or missions that have to do with achieving that,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: it feels like this is not nothing is going to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: come of this. We'll find one more piece of the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: puzzle and it'll tell us one more thing, and then
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: we will have another three hundred episodes before we find
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the next one, and it's just going to be like
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that for maybe ever. And that's fine, but it does
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: result in me not being at all invested in finding
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the treasure, because as much as Oda has said that
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: there is a treasure, when do we get there? Maybe
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: not for a very long time still, So the only
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: thing that could get me feeling like, really really invested
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: is the concept of Oda saying I'm wrapping up one piece,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: by the way, like this year's the last run and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: we're going to be reaching the end of the series finally,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And then I would start to pay attention to this
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: because I would feel like we've got some sort of
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you know, measuring stick to use. But otherwise, the whole
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: thing with that is I'm just letting it wash over me.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And anytime that I'm reminded of it. I'm just like,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, and like it's unfortunate because Robin is so
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: nothing in so many ways for me, and I wanted
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: her to be a little bit more. And the fact
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that a lot of what she brings to the table
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: is her knowledge surrounding all of this stuff and her
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: interest in the ponoglyphs. It's just too bad that a
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: character that often doesn't get lots to do is very
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: much like tied in with the plotline that I don't
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: give a shit about. So it's just sort of a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: one two punch for a character that I feel like
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be this way, you know, but anyway,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I just I am trying to jump ahead into the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: we have that fucking Uncle Sam. Dude. Guys, this dude,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming in the live watch or the live action
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the meeting that Vivi gets knocked down by Woppole is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the Reverie, But that's where they are at the time,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: because we're seeing a lot of these same people in
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that like when the camera you know, goes from face
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to face and yeah, we've got the narrator chiming in here.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: The most influential leaders and all the seas will begin
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: their discussion and reshape the world. And for seven days,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: my fellow nobleman, we shall speak of this beautiful world
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of ours. And we see the doors closing. It's very
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: much giving in the room where it happens, you know.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So then we go to this like group of people
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that are The guy is in the subtitles labeled Elder
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Star D, and he says, it seems like it has started. Cobra,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the king of Alabasta, is requesting a special meeting with us,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and somebody else says, interesting, they are like one of
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the only families that stayed in the lower world. And
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the other guy is saying, oh, so they're traitors, that's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. Uh, these guys are the leaders of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the world government itself, right like oh, Saraphim says, yep.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It was one of the previous ones regarding the live
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: action the Garossi, the five Elder Stars, who are the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: old white guys that run the world. Okay, right, right right?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Big Mom and Caido are in trouble. This
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: started with the War of the Best and now I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: fear it can't be stopped. It's most worrisome. Elderstar D says.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: The balance can't be maintained forever. This we all know.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: With that in mind, I believe the time has come
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: for a great cleansing, gentleman. Which anytime that a person
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: in power uses the word cleansing, it's bad. It's a bad,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: bad thing. So at this point we have someone kneeling
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and saying, great Emu. They have arrived and they're kneeling
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: in this sort of it's like a butterfly sanctuary. We
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: have this shadowy figure that is letting a butterfly land
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: on their finger. And I think, I'm like, so you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: guys had me read that weird story that had and
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: now the uh, the lightning god type, you know, ruling
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: over the moon. I think that I keep like weirdly
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: thinking that this is him, and I know that that's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: not right, Like it wouldn't make any sense with the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: way things have gone so far. And the name, why
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: would he have like a different name at this point,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you know? But I don't know what keeps making me
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: think that does he have like a name like Enu
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: or something that's a different name for the original and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Annell is like the dub name or something. I feel
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like there's something there that I'm half remembering, and that's
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: what's mixing me up. But this this being is standing
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: up at one point and is standing in such a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: way that until the camera kind of shows them a
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: few times at different angles, I did not realize that
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that was like a person. It looks like the silhouette
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: of a tree, like a dead tree that's blasted by
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: being blasted by lightning in wilderness somewhere in the midst
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of like a desert or something, and they are very
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: still and very black. They're just like in a silhouette.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: And when the camera pulls out we see this like
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: pile of posters of both Loofy and the Princess Shira
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Hoshi and Blackbeard. Who I am really curious how you
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: can hate those guys and hate black Beard because it
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: feels like they should be on the same side if
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: they hate black Beard. So I don't know what that means.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Sarah him says, this is also the being we saw
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: in the freezer with the giant straw hat. Okay, yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think I was getting that actually, so I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: appreciate that heads up. But yeah, Shira Hoshi is the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: one that actually has a blade actively still through her
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: face like her her poster or picture. I say poster,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: like she's wanted. That is not how it works. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: then this person pulls out a picture of viv and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that is not torn up. It feels like it's suggesting
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: they want viv for some reason, like they care about
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: her or see her as a prize or something. Maybe
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: they think that the people who they've crossed out or
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like you know, torn up their photos would somehow get
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: in their way when it comes to getting viv Or.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I don't see how she ro Ho she would factor
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: in there, or Blackbeard for that matter. So I don't know.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Let's say, Marshall d teach monkey d loofy Dophy said
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the celestial and see those of d as the natural
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: enemies of God. Yeah, such a weird thing. I don't look,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: y'all know that I have a weird hard time with this.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: So so it turns out that where all of these
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: old men are going is that throne room, where allegedly
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: the entire point is that nobody sits on that throne.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: That's supposed to be the way that you know, it
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: has a symbolism to it. But this shadowy figure fucking
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: sits down on that throne and then all of these
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: dudes kneel to him, which anybody that these guys kneel
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to has to be pretty fucking terrifying. And one of
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: them says, basically, who you want us to kill? Who
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: have you decided is going to be erased from history?
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And there's just this really long pause as they all
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: kneel and wait, and the camera zooms in on this
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: weird red eyeball, and then it's to be continued, and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: we do not hear what this being says to them.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: So that's a weird one. So the final episode of
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: these three deals a lot with white Beard and his
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: uh like the people that are were affected by him,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and the one that, like we spend the most time
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: with at the start of this is Marco, who has
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: some healing abilities related to his phoenix fire somehow. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly how all this works, but uh there's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a creature that is a real weird looking beast that
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: he is restoring to health that seems to be like
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the pet of this little girl, and I just do
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: not care for the design of this creature and it
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: makes me, really, it makes me really uncomfortable. It reminds
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: me a little bit of there is in the story
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I'm currently covering Cryoburn by Lois McMaster Boujol that's part
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: of the verkosaga and saga. There is a sphinx creature
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that is like a you know, cat body with the
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: face of a human. And anytime that there's like an
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: animal that's got a very human like face, I just
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: find it so off putting and awful, Like I hate it.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: So I think that's part of what my deal is
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: with this Seraphim says, we now know there's a single
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: asshole in charge of the whole world government. Now how
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: long till Lufy gets to punch him. Marco has the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Phoenix mythical zone, and phoenixes are linked to healing and rebirth. Yeah,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: this I know. I'm just not really sure exactly how
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Like does he just cover it in flames and it
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: just magically heals them or you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure of the mechanic of how this works.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: We saw one of those creatures and impel down as
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: one of the monsters in the beast level. Okay, so
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: let's see. Oh right, we have a bunch of I
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: am so sorry, guys. The fucking animal people. I have
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: such a hard time with remembering what they as a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: group are called, and I don't know why minks. Thank you,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Sarah him it's such a weird I think the reason
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that I have trouble with that is because a mink
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: is the name of like a specific animal, and so
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: all of them being called minks is just really strange
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: to me, because you know what I mean, it's like
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: having all of them be called cats. It just but
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: that is that's a specific thing, though, so I think
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: it's just my brain refuses to hold on to it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: But they are looking around this village that has been
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: ransacked and abandoned, and I don't think we're told specifically
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: exactly where they are. Later on, when Marco is talking
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to them about white Beard, I believe that this is
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: maybe supposed to be white Beard's home island, but I
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm right about that, because the
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: way he talked about it was like saying that white
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Beard sent them resources a lot anonymously, and I don't
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: know why it would have been ransacked at this point,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so, uh, there's also a mention here because
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: one of these guys who's like a gorilla man ah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: he tried. He's trying to like walk out there and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: find out what's happening, and the Minotaur is like telling
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: him that, you know, you were told to stay here
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: because that quaint little village is full of people who
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: have never seen the likes of us before, and if
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: we go out there, they will be terrified. And he's like,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I think, correctly, I don't get why I'm scarier than
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Master Cap because he's really freaky looking and he's bigger,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and the two of them, one of them says, like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: when he gets mad, and the other says, yeah, but
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: he does have a cute smile, and I was like
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a word okay, So it's like that anyway, so we get.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Like I said, a lot of flashback here regarding who
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Marco is, the role that he played in the War
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: of the Best, and overall, who white Beard is and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the values that he tried to instill in his crew.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I still remember this one dude who had betrayed him
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: and the way that he managed to talk him down,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: which I just really appreciated because it was the sort
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: of thing that I was wondering if it was just
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: going to be this guy is so far gone that
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: he won't hear anything anybody says to him anymore. But
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: white Beard got through to him, and it was like
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the dude was mad at Ace. I think it was
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: related to gold Roger. It was something regarding Ace being
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: gold Roger's son and this guy just being like, oh, well,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: he clearly has to die then, And white Beard managed
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: to convince this guy like that's not that's not fair,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Like why would that solve anything? What does that do?
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: And the dude manages to talk his son down. I
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: put son in quotes because the whole thing with white
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Beard is that he sees his entire crew as his
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: son's except for black Beard, who evidently had been a crewmate.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: But after he killed a friend, as far as white
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Beard was concerned, like, that's a wrap on that. And
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: white Beard, once he was killed, I can't remember what
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: his fruit was because he had a devil fruit power,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: but I do remember that teach absorbs that power somehow.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I cannot remember what that power was, but he teaches
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: like It's very interesting how he was made into such
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a scary villain and then really like back Bernard for
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: so long. You know, the implications of him being able
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to take on all of these powers and just the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: acceleration of his assault on everything. I really thought that's
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: who we were going to be up against sooner rather
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: than later, and instead we're getting him kind of like
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: put to the side. And obviously where we're going here
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: were I believe he's going to be back in the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: mix fairly soon based on the context clues of all
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: of this. But it just surprises me at like, it's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: just been so long and I don't know what I
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: was expecting, but I've kind of lost track of a
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: lot of what's going on with him by now. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: feel like I might need a bit more of a refresh.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Even Sarahim says, yeah, Roger killed a lot of the
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: guy's crew in a fight in the past. Tremor tremor
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: fruit the power to cause earthquakes. Okay, Okay, So let's
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: say I'm trying to see it make sure that there's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: nothing in this particular bit that I'm forgetting, because, like
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I said, a lot of flashbacks, and when you're scrubbing
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: through the episode fast, it's like they're mixed in in
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: such a way that it can be really hard to know.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: We have a mention from Marco as well, because there's
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: that guy who is being sort of carted around by
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: his mom and being told to claim that he's Whitebeard's son,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and I appreciated that. When one of the guys is
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: asking Marco, like, do you think that's true? Marco is
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: fully like, I don't know, you know, Like he isn't
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh no, he never hook up
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: with her. He says something like, I never learned about
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: what his taste in women even was, so I couldn't
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: even say, based on like what she looks like or
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: who she was, whether he'd be interested or not, and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: just sort of cops to the fact like she might
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: be telling the truth. But even if she is, what
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: they are clearly after is money and there isn't And
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I do not see a bitch like that believing us
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: when we tell her there's no money. So whether or
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: not they're telling the truth is sort of irrelevant to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: whether they're going to be a pain in our asses,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: which I can guarantee they will be. And I'll just
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: say that I really appreciated him, like not denying any
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: of this due to some weird feeling of like defending
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: his mentor or anything like that. And sy I'm trying
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: to find this bit here where he's let's see, he
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: says that Whitebeard was kind of a cheap skate, but
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: nobody said anything to him because we all knew what
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: he was doing with the money he saved, because he
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: was sending it to the village, which is really cute.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody is just aware, like he's not exactly a cheap skate,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: he's just got really specific priorities really, And then this
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: is when he brings up Weavil right right right this
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: broad I hope that, I hope that it's true and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that Weavil really is his son. It would be so strange,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and she, like the whole thing would have to be
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: whether or not Weavil breaks free of his mother's control,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: because obviously he seems like a better dude than she
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: is allowing him to be. So I am hoping that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: he manages to become his own man at some point.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: We shall see. But yeah, that's uh, that's pretty much
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: it I'm going through. And yeah, I think that's most
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: of it. Marco just says to uh, cat Viper, Hey,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: if you see Lufier, are you going to will you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: pass on a message for me? And I know y'all
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: are heading to Wanna what is it that you are
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: planning to do there? And this is when kat Viper
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: says Kaido and Marco is just like oh, he gets
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: a look on his face like uh yeah, that's just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: not what And that's the end of the episode. It's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: just him being like, oh, dear, so we shall see,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: we shall see. Floren says next time will be a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: wanna be looking forward to it me too. All Right, kids,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap up. Thank you again so much for
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: hanging out with me. Appreciate you all, and until next
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: time to lou motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled Network podcast.