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Brian Thomas spends a full hour with Private Citizen Brad Wenstrup · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: It's seven oh six here at fifty five KRCV Talk station,
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Speaker 1: A very happy Friday to everyone. Please to have in
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Speaker 1: studio former Congressman now citizen brad Winsterp still has his
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Speaker 1: uh I guess fingers on the pulse of what's going
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Speaker 1: on here in the United States of America, most notably
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Speaker 1: a topic that I couldn't wait to dive on into
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Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen origin cover. We're gonna get to that
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Speaker 1: in a moment. Welcome back Congressman Brad or former Congressman
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Speaker 1: brad Winstrip love having you in the studio talk about
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Speaker 1: these important topics.
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Speaker 2: Goodness see man, that's good to be with you, Brian
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Speaker 2: as always, And uh, you know what I try to do, Brian.
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Speaker 2: You know we've been doing this about once a month. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I always try to come in right after I've been
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Speaker 2: to d c Ah. You've been back and I was
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Speaker 2: just there and the top we're going to a topic
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Speaker 2: about talk about I got briefed done before it became
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Speaker 2: a public entity this past week.
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Speaker 1: And it did become a public thing. And I was
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Speaker 1: so shocked after watching the live testimony of James Erdman,
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Speaker 1: the third, who was a CIA analyst and a very
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Speaker 1: very just amazing background. And you can comment on that
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Speaker 1: because you already made a comment to me off air
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Speaker 1: about his background, but pretty much bulletproof in terms of
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Speaker 1: what he knows and what he's seen and his involvement
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Speaker 1: in looking into the origins of COVID nineteen. A bunch
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Speaker 1: people rolling their eyes go, well, why are we still
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Speaker 1: talking about that? Well, he explained in full glorious detail
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Speaker 1: during his testimony on this Senate Homeland Security and Government
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Speaker 1: Affairs Committee headed by Rand Paul suspiciously absent Democrats. Not
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Speaker 1: a single Democrat showed up to this hearing. But it
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Speaker 1: is really important because not so much where did COVID
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Speaker 1: come from, but the outrageous antics by the CIA in
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Speaker 1: covering up and modifying what their conclusions were to fit
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Speaker 1: the demands of Anthony Fauci of all people. So let's
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Speaker 1: dive in details of this, because my mouth literally fell open.
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Speaker 1: If you don't have time to watch the full hour
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Speaker 1: and a half worth of testimony, just listen to James
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Speaker 1: Erdman the third statement at the outset. He boils it
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Speaker 1: all down and then elaborates on the points when he
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Speaker 1: is and he's talking when the senators are asking him questions.
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Speaker 1: But he was charged to look into the origins of
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Speaker 1: COVID everything that happened, and this is a recent charge.
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Speaker 1: But he has kind of stopped in his tracks elaborate
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Speaker 1: in this because you've talked with mister Erdman before you
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Speaker 1: knew about it.
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Speaker 2: Well, just no, I met him just a week and
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Speaker 2: a half ago. Yeah, when I was in DC with
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Speaker 2: the board, and but before before he was going to
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Speaker 2: go out here Director of National Intelligence Telsey Gaberd, who
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Speaker 2: has put this together to her credit, she said, Brad,
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Speaker 2: will you come in. You've done all the pandemic stuff,
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Speaker 2: you've been on the Intelligence Committee. There's a lot of
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Speaker 2: things you weren't you knew or you weren't able to
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Speaker 2: talk about, and I want you to go have him
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Speaker 2: go over his report. He and another woman who will
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Speaker 2: be nameless at this point she is not public.
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Speaker 1: Another CIA operative.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know, take a look at this
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Speaker 2: and let's make sure we're all in the same page.
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Speaker 2: And certainly what he had was far more than ever
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Speaker 2: I was ever able to get. Yet he was stymied
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Speaker 2: in the process. He was So here's a guy, he's
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Speaker 2: CIA operations officer, which a with a very patriotic, glorified
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Speaker 2: career in serving the country and a lot of dangerous places,
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Speaker 2: and he's being tasked with this mission and he is
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Speaker 2: as appalled as I have been over time. You mentioned
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Speaker 2: no Democrats there. This is consistent with what we were seeing.
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Speaker 2: If you go back to COVID origins and Intel report,
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Speaker 2: and we still had Adam Schiff on the Intelligence Committee.
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Speaker 2: You know, his version from their side was, oh, it's
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Speaker 2: all water under the bridge, let's not talk about it anymore.
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Speaker 2: That's five years ago. Now, why are well, no, this
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Speaker 2: was even five years ago. I know he's saying, COVID's
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Speaker 2: water under the bridge. Forget it. We got to move on. Okay,
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Speaker 2: well you would, You didn't even move on. And so
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Speaker 2: now we have this and what he has shown is
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Speaker 2: what we have said with what we have unclassified where
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Speaker 2: you know Fauci was covering up. You know, I get.
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Speaker 2: I got asked right after I retired, said will you
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Speaker 2: come back and still work on origins of COVID? And
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Speaker 2: I said, and the origins of the cover ups?
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Speaker 1: And they said yes, yes, that's why you're still involved.
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Speaker 1: That's why he had a meeting with Tulsea Gabbert. That's how
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Speaker 1: you got to meet James Urban the third before he
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Speaker 1: came out and testified on all this. Yes, okay, good
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Speaker 1: because I couldn't believe what I was hearing from this
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Speaker 1: guy and boiled down to its finest points. There's all
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Speaker 1: kinds of entities and agencies, but the the they were
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Speaker 1: asked to, you know, sort of come to a conclusion.
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Speaker 1: The FBI had its own independent determination where this COVID
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Speaker 1: came from the FBI. I think it determined it was
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Speaker 1: a lab leaku. Yes, confident at least to some degree.
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Speaker 1: And I can tell you as I looked into the
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Speaker 1: studies by the intelligence agencies that apparently didn't talk to
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Speaker 1: each other. They all just did their own thing.
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Speaker 2: FBI did more work than anybody else because I got
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Speaker 2: to report on who they well, what specialties they met with,
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Speaker 2: and how often they met and the time they put in.
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Speaker 2: And FBI did the most work. Okay.
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Speaker 1: CIA separately looked into it, right, That's where FAUCI comes in.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so they have.
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Speaker 1: A conclusion by they reach out to researchers. This apparently
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Speaker 1: is common practices because of course the CIA entities don't
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Speaker 1: know anything about the whys and wreforce of biological research
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Speaker 1: and modification and that kind of thing. So they higher consultants,
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Speaker 1: the consultants, can you provide their explanation of what they think.
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Speaker 1: The consultants originally said, lab leak looks like the likely scenario.
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Speaker 1: That report comes out, Fauci is injected into the equation.
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Speaker 1: He brings his own hand pick group of these consultant
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Speaker 1: researchers who come to a different conclusion. They think, no,
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Speaker 1: this was naturally occurrent phenomenon bat in a cave or whatever,
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Speaker 1: so countering what all the other researchers had already decided.
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Speaker 1: So the ultimate report that came out not that it
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Speaker 1: was a lab leak likely, but that it unknown. It
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Speaker 1: could be a lab leak, but it could have been,
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Speaker 1: you know, a naturally occurring phenomenon. So they watered that
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Speaker 1: down at Anthony Fauci's behest. Now, the weird thing about
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Speaker 1: this is we find out from his testimony, James Erman testimony,
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Speaker 1: that Fauci's the money man behind all of these scientists
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Speaker 1: getting aid research crists. Yeah, so of course they're going
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Speaker 1: to battle whatever he wants. Big looming question has not
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Speaker 1: been answered, and Erman didn't answer it. Why was Fauci
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Speaker 1: so damn interested in making it look like it came
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Speaker 1: from a naturally occurring mutation in nature and not just
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Speaker 1: a simple COVID lab leak.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is my psychology degree coming into place,
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Speaker 2: and just human nature. It's got blood on his hands
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Speaker 2: if you have done this and look. I go back
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Speaker 2: to twenty twelve where someone asked him about gain of
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Speaker 2: function research in an interview. It's public. They said, aren't
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Speaker 2: you worried about something getting out of a lab and
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Speaker 2: creating a pandemic? And he said, I think the benefits
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Speaker 2: outweigh the risk. They played all kinds of games to
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Speaker 2: continue gain of function research. By the way, doctor Fauci
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Speaker 2: is not a virologist either, but he but but he's
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Speaker 2: how do he become the money man? He because and
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Speaker 2: he testified and listened to this when he testified in
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Speaker 2: front of our committee in front of me, we asked
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Speaker 2: him about the grant process right at one point he said, gosh,
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Speaker 2: I get billions of dollars in grants every year. I
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Speaker 2: can't know what's in them. And he so we asked
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Speaker 2: specifically about eco health doing gain of function research in Wuhan, China,
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Speaker 2: where there's more labs than just the Wuhan Institute of Rology.
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Speaker 2: They have their bioweapons lab, et cetera, et cetera. But
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Speaker 2: when we asked him about that going money to them,
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Speaker 2: he says, well, I just sign him. My job is
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Speaker 2: only to sign them. There's there's they've been reviewed, and
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Speaker 2: once they've been reviewed, I just sign them. And I said,
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Speaker 2: and they didn't adhere to the tenants of the grant
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Speaker 2: where they had to do their reporting, periodic reporting, and
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Speaker 2: if they created something more pathogenic that needed to be
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Speaker 2: reported immediately, does a flag go up at NIH saying basically,
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Speaker 2: where's your homework? And and he says, and I'm paraphrasing here,
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Speaker 2: but it's all public testimony. He said, well, that's over
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Speaker 2: in compliance. I have nothing to do with that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he washed his hands of everything here.
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Speaker 1: And there was a twenty fifteen law that barred the
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Speaker 1: gain of function research funding period under story and then
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Speaker 1: he changed the definition of what gain of function is
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Speaker 1: to get around that. Great yes, and so uh huh,
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Speaker 1: and this this is he knew, damn well the gain
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Speaker 1: of function research was going on. He's one that changed
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Speaker 1: the definition.
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Speaker 2: Well, he and others well, of course, but yeah, working
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Speaker 2: with it. And he also put together this group that
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Speaker 2: wrote proximal Origins that said, oh, look, it came from nature.
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Speaker 2: And then he went out on the White House lawn.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if President Trump or Vice President
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Speaker 2: Pence had any idea he was going to do that.
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Speaker 2: I haven't been able to find that out. And he
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Speaker 2: comes out, he goes this just in these brilliant scientists
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Speaker 2: have said, it came from nature. It's all right here.
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Speaker 2: He was trying to put it to rest. At the
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Speaker 2: same time, the very day, the very day that he
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Speaker 2: did that on the White House lawn, these scientists, as
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Speaker 2: we found out in their internal emails, were saying, we
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Speaker 2: still can't rule out that this thing's engineered. And one
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Speaker 2: guy said, and one guy said, my focus is to
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Speaker 2: disprove the Lavleek theory. One of the guys who wrote
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Speaker 2: proximal Origins. It's all there in our report. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how many people have actually read our report. I
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Speaker 2: wrote it in a way, we wrote it in a
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Speaker 2: way I had a great team with me, in a
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Speaker 2: way that it's for the American people to decide. But
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Speaker 2: here are the facts. Here are the facts. I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to tell you. I don't have to tell you
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Speaker 2: because it's all right here, Well let's.
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Speaker 1: Pause, we'll bring former Congressman back Wins. You're back to
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Speaker 1: talk about the CIA specifically, and this has really got
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Speaker 1: Congressman Brian Winstrop, who's still actively involved in connection, which
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Speaker 1: is COVID origin. And it's important the COVID origin story
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Speaker 1: because it goes deeper and deeper and deeper and kind
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Speaker 1: of is revealing. It's not kind of revealing, it's unbelievably
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Speaker 1: revealing about the size, scope and power of the deep state.
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Speaker 1: They hold up a metaphorical middle finger to anything they're asked,
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Speaker 1: and they do not comply. Most notably, there was a
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Speaker 1: law that was passed. Congress unanimously approved the disclosure of
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Speaker 1: all the COVID nineteen origin files.
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Speaker 2: Unanimous.
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Speaker 1: There's no bypartisan anything ah here comes disclose the COVID
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Speaker 1: nineteen documents. CIA signed in a law by Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: when was last I got since president. So it was
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Speaker 1: done the way out, much to his chagrin, I might
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Speaker 1: point out, but of etelproof majority, that is exactly what
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Speaker 1: you had. So it was inevitable in spite of the
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Speaker 1: fact there was a law in the book demanding and
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Speaker 1: ordering the CIA to turn over this. What do we
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Speaker 1: get out of it? One five page redacted memorandum?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it.
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Speaker 1: Was years ago.
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Speaker 2: This I was obviously still in Congress, right, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: we were going to declassify everything they have. That is
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Speaker 2: what we passed. I mean, how could you not you
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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, transparency, et cetera. Biden signs it
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Speaker 2: and Everil Haynes, Director of National Intelligence time he Ray
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Speaker 2: gives us a five page thing and most of it
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Speaker 2: was stuff we already knew on the Intel Committee, right,
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't what we really were really looking for,
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Speaker 2: like what is going on? Look every step of the
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Speaker 2: way on the Select Subcommittee for the coronavirus pandemic. When
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Speaker 2: we would go to HHS and understand that FAUCI is
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Speaker 2: all under HHS, and we go to them just to
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Speaker 2: give us your documents on school closures, give us your
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Speaker 2: documents on masking, you're met with a lawyer. You know,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, we are Congress, the people's government, and
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Speaker 2: we're asking you who are under us, who we have
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Speaker 2: oversight over that we need an attorney to take a
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Speaker 2: look at these things. It's not supposed to work that way.
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Speaker 2: And it was the same with Intel, and it's in
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Speaker 2: statute that there's nothing they can keep from us. At
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Speaker 2: least they have to turn things over to what's called
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Speaker 2: the Gang of Eight. But they didn't, and they didn't.
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Speaker 2: They continue they're going to the documents.
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Speaker 1: That's what Erman testified about, and he explained, this is
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Speaker 1: where the foot dragon comes in. They know how to
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Speaker 1: play the game. You know, Biden administration is in. You
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Speaker 1: know what they do. They do whatever they want. Or
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration or the bid administration signs a law
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Speaker 1: that orders them produce the documents. Well just wait around,
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Speaker 1: because soon enough another administration is going to show up
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Speaker 1: and they will lose focus and move on to some
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Speaker 1: other task and will never have to produce the documents. Well,
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Speaker 1: well they still haven't produced. They still haven't.
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Speaker 2: And you know, you know when I went to Congress, Brian,
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Speaker 2: it's you know, truth justice, American way I still believe
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Speaker 2: it existed. And you know, there'll probably be some bad people.
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Speaker 2: There always are, you know, in any any field. But
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Speaker 2: this is deep. And you know when people would say
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Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, you go, yeah, it's theory, blah blah blah
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Speaker 2: blah it off. We found out these things are true,
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Speaker 2: these things are true. They have been doing these things.
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Speaker 2: And you know, you find out as a member of Congress,
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Speaker 2: especially Republicans, because really the people in the agencies, they
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Speaker 2: lean to the left, they're with the Democrats. The Democrats
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Speaker 2: like them there because they will play their game with them,
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Speaker 2: and so with us, it's kind of like, well, Congress,
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Speaker 2: you know, and every two years you turn over. I
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Speaker 2: mean there's new Senators, there's new members of the House
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Speaker 2: that represents. You've got to start all over.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a law in the books that didn't
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Speaker 1: go away, which says produce the damn document. So pursuing
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Speaker 1: I mean, what vehicle needs to be done. This is
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Speaker 1: one of the questions that Erdman, James Erdman, the whistle blower,
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Speaker 1: was testifying to. You know, we need someone to actually
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Speaker 1: do something. Someone over the DOJ needs to start prosecuting people.
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Speaker 1: When you go to the Supreme Court or whatever.
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Speaker 2: The idea that you got to go through all.
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Speaker 1: Of that when you have a law on the books
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Speaker 1: by unanimous consent, yep, is mind boggling.
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Speaker 2: The CIA works for you, works for us.
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Speaker 1: You're the one that funds them, and I'm thinking of
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Speaker 1: you as a as a as a congressman.
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Speaker 2: But you got your point. Yeah, well, which is something
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Speaker 2: I've mentioned to you before. The only way I got
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Speaker 2: some information from the intelligence community is when we were
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Speaker 2: looking into the COVID stuff, and I said, let me
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Speaker 2: remind you all, we created your agency, and we fund
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Speaker 2: your agency, and we started fencing money from the intelligence
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Speaker 2: community until they gave us the information. I will never
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Speaker 2: forget Director of National Intelligence Avrol Haynes saying do I
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Speaker 2: get my ten million back? Now? Did I give you?
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Speaker 2: Did I give you what you were wanting? Do I
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Speaker 2: get my ten million back? And I remember saying, no,
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Speaker 2: not yet, because you still have to give me X,
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Speaker 2: Y and Z.
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Speaker 1: We're not done with this topic, folks, because we haven't
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Speaker 1: even talked about the COVID vaccine. There's so much swirling
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Speaker 1: around behind the scenes that is so so it's such
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Speaker 1: a letdown, you know, I feel like I want to
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Speaker 1: be a proud American. You know when you think about
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Speaker 1: the old days and you think, oh, we don't do
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Speaker 1: bad things like that. You know, the CIA is looking
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Speaker 1: out for our best interests, and you know what, well
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Speaker 1: we as the people.
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Speaker 2: It was Republicans and Democrats during Watergate that just wanted
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Speaker 2: to find the truth. Was I was proud of that.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's not where we are today.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately division along those lines too, and no Democrats showed
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Speaker 1: up to this meeting when from Senator Ran Paul, where
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Speaker 1: this guy testify? Pause, we'll bring back about KRCB talk
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Speaker 1: station Brad Winsterpin studio. Former congressmen still involved in the
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Speaker 1: COVID concealment issue, and it definitely was concealed, Doctor Anthony
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Speaker 1: Fauci's fingerprints all over it. Maybe you can ask yourself
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Speaker 1: the outloud question why I think maybe there's a money
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Speaker 1: connection here. Of course, but the idea that it came
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Speaker 1: from a lab was pretty much known by everyone involved
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Speaker 1: until Fauci got involved, and he had his own hand
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Speaker 1: selected group of scientists say no, no, no, this was
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Speaker 1: a naturally occurring phenomenon. I really and talking with Congressman
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Speaker 1: Winstrop about this and then pivoting over to the CIA's
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Speaker 1: refusal to produce the documents, by the fact that Congress
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Speaker 1: passed the unanimous law telling them they must produce this
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Speaker 1: This is years ago, still haven't been produced. Congressman off air,
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Speaker 1: you said, this reveals the partisan reality of the CIA.
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Speaker 1: It is made up of partisans, obviously favoring Democrats. How
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Speaker 1: is it that the lab leak theory versus a naturally
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Speaker 1: occurring mutation of a virus theory? How does that be
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Speaker 1: become a Republican Democrat thing?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've said from the beginning, COVID nineteen
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Speaker 2: should have been a moment like nine to eleven. This
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Speaker 2: was really an attack on our country and people were dying, right,
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Speaker 2: and we should want to know where this came from
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Speaker 2: and how it happened. And interestingly, you know all the
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Speaker 2: fingerprints are in China, right, So why didn't this unite America? Well,
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Speaker 2: because we had people that had personal motivations. And look,
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Speaker 2: you talk about the Biden administration, for example, did you
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Speaker 2: ever hear Joe Biden say anything negative about China? No? No,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to take this a little bit
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Speaker 2: step further, and I and and you know, just food
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Speaker 2: for thought for your audience. Oh no, no, go ahead, Okay,
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Speaker 2: where this is going? Yeah, because you know there's there's
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Speaker 2: ways of people being compromised. I remember Joe Biden on
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Speaker 2: his way out of office said Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 2: to run the country by oligarchs. Well that may be
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Speaker 2: to a degree if you want to make that connection.
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Speaker 2: But Donald Trump's oligarchs are Americans. Joe biden family oligarchs
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Speaker 2: were Russian, Chinese, Ukrainian. Where was his son getting all
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Speaker 2: these positions and collecting money? Okay, so put that aside.
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Speaker 2: But the the point I want to make is you
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Speaker 2: had too many people within our own government wanting to
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Speaker 2: do this with China to create these pathogens. And again
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Speaker 2: I could only surmise going back to twenty twelve, where
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Speaker 2: you know, Fauci's all for gain of function research. In
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Speaker 2: his mind, if we can speed up evolution, if we
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Speaker 2: can create something that may occur in nature and do
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Speaker 2: it in the lab and at the same time be
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Speaker 2: able to create the vaccine for it, then I'm the hero.
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Speaker 2: We're the heroes. You know, we've done this. And interestingly,
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Speaker 2: it takes a while to create a vaccine once you
19:03
Speaker 2: have a virus. Yeah, but China. A scientist in China
19:07
Speaker 2: within two months after the sequence became public was offering
19:12
Speaker 2: was trying to get a patent on a vaccine. It
19:14
Speaker 2: doesn't happen in two months normally, yet he was doing that.
19:19
Speaker 2: So that kind of would tell you, well, they've already
19:21
Speaker 2: had it. They've been doing it, So there's reasons for
19:24
Speaker 2: the cover up. But to go all the way into
19:26
Speaker 2: the CIA to support covering this up.
19:30
Speaker 1: For the benefit of the Chinese Communists Party ultimately, and
19:32
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that Erdmuann testified to There
19:35
Speaker 1: is this undercurrent within the CIA you don't want to
19:38
Speaker 1: make the Chinese look bad. And one might think, well,
19:41
Speaker 1: the CIA has concluded that, you know, geopolitical relations would
19:45
Speaker 1: be strained or harmed if we let the world know
19:48
Speaker 1: that the Chinese were taken her with viruses that result
19:50
Speaker 1: in everybody getting locked down and told they can't go
19:53
Speaker 1: to church. Oh boy, bad for relations. Well, you know what,
19:55
Speaker 1: screw that. But the point is you can't be critical
19:58
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party at all. And the scientist that
20:01
Speaker 1: Fauci was working with, as Erdman observed, are surrounded by
20:05
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party people who are working on the same
20:08
Speaker 1: research that we used to support this bat cave theory. Nonsense.
20:14
Speaker 1: They're all in a protectionist environment, all designed to protect
20:17
Speaker 1: the interest of the Chinese Communist Party. That's what That's
20:20
Speaker 1: the takeaway I took you. Did you hear anything or
20:22
Speaker 1: do you know anything that's contrary to that?
20:24
Speaker 2: That's the feeling that I get. It's like, you can't
20:26
Speaker 2: go there if.
20:27
Speaker 1: You're looking for a motivation. You know what, Why did
20:30
Speaker 1: they want to do? All this signs point to protecting
20:34
Speaker 1: China's I guess good name if I can be genuinely yeah,
20:39
Speaker 1: and that.
20:39
Speaker 2: Would go against you know where I am because there's
20:44
Speaker 2: art of diplomacy. I understand those types of things that
20:47
Speaker 2: may come into play. But at the same time, there's
20:51
Speaker 2: so much that involved with truth and virtue and being
20:58
Speaker 2: sincere that just isn't there. It just doesn't matter anymore.
21:02
Speaker 2: And think about this. You you look at Russia, Soviet Union, China.
21:10
Speaker 2: When it comes to communism, nothing's a lie if it
21:13
Speaker 2: benefits the state there you're lying is an okay thing, yep.
21:19
Speaker 2: And so lying within the CIA is sometimes okay, right.
21:24
Speaker 1: You're you know, you remind me of when I lived
21:25
Speaker 1: in Chicago. The Democrats corruption. It's okay, it's our corruption.
21:29
Speaker 1: We know all about it, but we're betting the benefit
21:31
Speaker 1: of it. There's your answer right there. We'll continue with
21:34
Speaker 1: former Congressman Winster more on this topic seven thirty six.
21:37
Speaker 1: Right now. If you have KERCD talk station Odor Exit.
21:39
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll work in the Wuhan Instituta
21:41
Speaker 1: or up the talk station seven forty one if you
21:44
Speaker 1: bout KERCD talk station, Happy Friday. Really interesting conversation here
21:48
Speaker 1: as they typically are here with Brad Weinster, former congressman,
21:51
Speaker 1: still integrally involved in what's going on, and most notably
21:53
Speaker 1: with this gain of function research, the cover up that
21:57
Speaker 1: it was a cover up, It always was a lab leak,
21:59
Speaker 1: and we have doctor Fauci and our crazy, apparently very
22:04
Speaker 1: biased friends in the CIA did their best to try
22:07
Speaker 1: to convince you that it was a naturally occurring phenomenon.
22:09
Speaker 1: So question why, Well, the answer may be the CIA
22:13
Speaker 1: is inherently biased to protect the China, which is frightening
22:16
Speaker 1: as it could possibly be. Doctor Fauci had a massive
22:18
Speaker 1: financial interest and apparently wanted to be the savior of
22:21
Speaker 1: the world after having unleashed this on the planet, not
22:25
Speaker 1: himself personally, but he's the one that sponsored and had
22:28
Speaker 1: paid for the gain of function research, which was prohibited
22:30
Speaker 1: by laws. So this is all absolutely awful. But going
22:34
Speaker 1: back to the CIA, sitting on thousands, presumably of pages
22:37
Speaker 1: of COVID documents and gain of function or rather origin documents,
22:43
Speaker 1: they still haven't produced them. And I'll never ever walk
22:46
Speaker 1: away from that reality. We need to get those produced.
22:48
Speaker 1: But having heard the testimony of James Erdman, the whistleblower,
22:52
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you clean house in the CIA?
22:56
Speaker 1: This isn't We are in desperate need of what I
22:59
Speaker 1: would argue non political patriots going back to the job
23:03
Speaker 1: looking at for the interesting the United States of America,
23:04
Speaker 1: and it's citizen congress or former Congressman Westrop.
23:07
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the military is the only place in
23:10
Speaker 2: our federal government where unethical is unlawful. We have uniform
23:15
Speaker 2: code of military justice. You'll be prosecuted. You're going to
23:17
Speaker 2: jail in the agencies. They've been getting away with things
23:20
Speaker 2: for a long long time.
23:21
Speaker 1: Murder.
23:22
Speaker 2: But literally, let's bring up one other thing too, because
23:25
Speaker 2: I you know, you're in the minority, you know, or
23:30
Speaker 2: you may be in the We were in the majority
23:32
Speaker 2: in the House, but Biden had the White House, and
23:36
Speaker 2: I got to work with those that are in the
23:38
Speaker 2: positions that they're in. And I established a good relationship
23:43
Speaker 2: with the CIA director, especially on things that we could
23:48
Speaker 2: agree in, especially in health for CIA agents, et cetera,
23:53
Speaker 2: et cetera. But anyway, in a relationship with him, and
23:56
Speaker 2: I was privileged. He had me come to Lang and
24:00
Speaker 2: he showed me some things associated with lab league versus not.
24:06
Speaker 1: Ok and interesting enough, those things were not produced pursuing
24:11
Speaker 1: to the Congressional mandate. A.
24:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not. They were not. And anyway, I
24:19
Speaker 2: just I just had a feeling and I wasn't surprised
24:23
Speaker 2: that before he left at the end of the Biden administration,
24:28
Speaker 2: you may recall, the CIA director came out and said,
24:33
Speaker 2: we have new evidence. We now believe it came from
24:37
Speaker 2: the LAB. Do you remember this, because it wasn't that
24:39
Speaker 2: long ago, but it was on his way out the door,
24:42
Speaker 2: because certainly John Ratcliffe was going to have access to
24:46
Speaker 2: these things as well. Okay, so that didn't surprise me
24:52
Speaker 2: when he made that move. I'm glad he did, but
24:56
Speaker 2: that was kind of a washing of his hands. I
24:59
Speaker 2: think is say, I cannot be. I can't walk out
25:04
Speaker 2: the door with all this stuff sitting here and stick
25:10
Speaker 2: with what the CIA game about. My opinion is if
25:14
Speaker 2: he had done that any sooner, he probably would have
25:16
Speaker 2: been fired by the president.
25:18
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
25:19
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion.
25:21
Speaker 1: Going back to the idea that the Democrats don't want
25:26
Speaker 1: us to know, or at least didn't want us to know.
25:28
Speaker 1: We know now in spite of their best efforts. But
25:31
Speaker 1: the idea that as a party, they just wanted to
25:37
Speaker 1: deprive us of this valuable important information. I just I
25:41
Speaker 1: don't get that.
25:43
Speaker 2: And it's it's it goes against what we think as
25:47
Speaker 2: Americans and how we were brought up truth justice American way,
25:52
Speaker 2: you know again, you know Watergate, it was Republicans and
25:57
Speaker 2: Democrats just wanting the truth. You know, that's not where
26:01
Speaker 2: we are today. And within communism, it's not a lie
26:07
Speaker 2: if it benefits the state, it's just what we do. Yeah.
26:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to Russia, they made it up and
26:12
Speaker 1: they stuck to it, and they tried to impeach the
26:14
Speaker 1: president based on a lie. They knew it was a lie,
26:17
Speaker 1: and yet they presented it to the American people as the
26:18
Speaker 1: stone hold a cold truth. Lying constantly to achieve their objective.
26:25
Speaker 2: And when I asked Democrats on Intel Committee how they
26:28
Speaker 2: felt when they realized that they paid for the fake
26:32
Speaker 2: dossier that led to all this, not one of them
26:35
Speaker 2: looked at me.
26:36
Speaker 1: Kept their heads down.
26:37
Speaker 2: They kept their heads down in shame and embarrassment. And
26:40
Speaker 2: you know, I was asked once by a reporter, I
26:42
Speaker 2: don't want to call it a journalist, because reporters said
26:45
Speaker 2: to me when I was leading the Pandemic Committee, so
26:48
Speaker 2: are you're going after any Republicans? And I said, I
26:51
Speaker 2: don't know what party they are. They're in the agencies.
26:54
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised to.
26:55
Speaker 1: Know our agents don't run as D or R when
26:57
Speaker 1: they're being hired, although you know there's enough questions of
27:00
Speaker 1: a new hire whether or not they fall down to
27:01
Speaker 1: the left or the right side of the ledger. We
27:03
Speaker 1: need to get rid of some management over there. At
27:06
Speaker 1: least that'd be a good start. We'll continue one more
27:08
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27:24
Speaker 1: we a little bit more on the topic of the
27:26
Speaker 1: COVID cover up, which also included a cover up of
27:28
Speaker 1: all the dangers associated with the vaccine that we were
27:31
Speaker 1: told we had to do under penalty of getting our
27:33
Speaker 1: jobs are getting fired or I mean, the intrusion on
27:38
Speaker 1: our civil rights and liberties cannot be understated.
27:42
Speaker 2: That is first and foremost. But at the same time,
27:46
Speaker 2: it didn't even make scientific sense.
27:48
Speaker 1: No, and Faucci knew that as well. Why would he
27:51
Speaker 1: tell us to stand six feet apart he didn't have
27:52
Speaker 1: any basis in fact for that. Why would he tell
27:54
Speaker 1: us to take first off, don't bother wearing a mask
27:56
Speaker 1: because it's not going to do a damn thing for you,
27:58
Speaker 1: and then say you all have it, must wear a mask. Nonsense.
28:01
Speaker 2: It's really hard right now for this administration to try
28:04
Speaker 2: and restore trust in public health. They don't deserve trust.
28:08
Speaker 2: And when you think about it too, you know you
28:10
Speaker 2: might be replacing secretaries and directors, but.
28:13
Speaker 1: Not everybody in the departments.
28:17
Speaker 2: That's right. I mean this goes across AHHS. And I
28:19
Speaker 2: know they're trying, you know, I just did a one
28:22
Speaker 2: on one with Secretary Kennedy and Cleveland last week. I mean,
28:25
Speaker 2: I know they're trying to get rid of of the
28:28
Speaker 2: bad people and cut out what they don't need. But
28:31
Speaker 2: that going back to that, it was just obscene that
28:34
Speaker 2: they were making people do this. And it wasn't based
28:37
Speaker 2: on science. It wasn't your doctor telling you that you
28:40
Speaker 2: need to get this vaccine. And I'll give you an example, Brian,
28:44
Speaker 2: I was going to Germany and they told me that
28:46
Speaker 2: I needed to have a booster before I could go.
28:48
Speaker 2: And I said why, Well, they couldn't answer that, and
28:51
Speaker 2: it was a cod booster. Yeah.
28:53
Speaker 1: And you mean the vaccine that doesn't prevent you from
28:55
Speaker 1: getting COVID nineteen.
28:56
Speaker 2: Right, and that one and which which way I knew, also.
28:59
Speaker 1: Could give you my dytists and all kinds of other
29:01
Speaker 1: health risks they knew about and didn't pass along to
29:03
Speaker 1: us as well, Brad.
29:04
Speaker 2: Which we knew from the trials. Look, I got the
29:07
Speaker 2: I got two doses of Pfizer. I felt in emergency use.
29:11
Speaker 2: I fell in the category by age, not by any
29:14
Speaker 2: underlying illness, but by age that I was vulnerable. So
29:18
Speaker 2: I did it to me in my situation, I thought
29:22
Speaker 2: benefits outweigh the risk based on what we know at
29:25
Speaker 2: this time. This is who's dying, right, my age?
29:28
Speaker 1: All right?
29:29
Speaker 2: So I got it.
29:30
Speaker 1: Then.
29:30
Speaker 2: The only reason I knew six months later that I
29:32
Speaker 2: got COVID is because I was cooking and couldn't smell
29:36
Speaker 2: garlic salt, and I said, I remember I had a
29:38
Speaker 2: chill last week. It was probably COVID. So I'm going
29:41
Speaker 2: to Germany. They tell me I need a booster. I said, well,
29:43
Speaker 2: let's check my antibodies in tea cells. Sirs right, and
29:47
Speaker 2: let's let's be doctors here, you know, because it was
29:50
Speaker 2: I was talking to a nurse and he said, well,
29:52
Speaker 2: we can't do the tea cells, we can do antibodies. Okay,
29:55
Speaker 2: let's get that. So you draw blood. I get it,
29:58
Speaker 2: I get my results. Strong number was forty. My number
30:03
Speaker 2: was eight hundred and twenty one. Yeah, that's in our
30:06
Speaker 2: pandemic report. I just I submitted it for the record.
30:10
Speaker 2: You know that that is in there. I was like,
30:12
Speaker 2: no doctor would sit here and say you've got to
30:14
Speaker 2: have this booster because you're at risk. And it's like, though, no, I'm.
30:20
Speaker 1: Not so answer the question for Maureen who's probably listening
30:23
Speaker 1: right now, why the pressure to get it? Why were
30:28
Speaker 1: we all forced to do something that might not have
30:31
Speaker 1: been in our best interests from maybe an ethical standpoint,
30:35
Speaker 1: a moral standpoint, maybe someone like a scientologist who doesn't
30:39
Speaker 1: believe in modern medicine or a Christian scientist who doesn't
30:41
Speaker 1: believe in modern medicine. Yeah, we were forced to do it.
30:44
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I didn't get the damn vaccine.
30:46
Speaker 1: I had COVID, I got antibodies, the even hit a
30:48
Speaker 1: T cell test and I was off the charts and
30:50
Speaker 1: turns my immunity. So what nefarious omen was behind that?
30:55
Speaker 1: And what was the motive from forcing us all in
30:56
Speaker 1: the penalty of losing our jobs and everything else.
30:59
Speaker 2: Well, you have a certain group of people certain Well
31:02
Speaker 2: there's money, That's that's one. You know, you you create
31:07
Speaker 2: a vaccine, you need a customer, and you know money.
31:12
Speaker 2: Money can be part of it. But also the belief
31:16
Speaker 2: in many ways by some that you know, let's ignore
31:20
Speaker 2: that we might have created this virus, but we're the
31:24
Speaker 2: ones protecting you. And here's how we're going to do.
31:27
Speaker 1: It with a vaccine that is documented to cause any
31:30
Speaker 1: number of health problems.
31:32
Speaker 2: And what we discovered also during our Pandemic Committee report,
31:38
Speaker 2: if it's in our report, is our vaccine injury program
31:42
Speaker 2: is not equipped for what it should be. And to
31:45
Speaker 2: some degree I get that because you only have so
31:48
Speaker 2: many people around if you haven't had vaccine injuries for years,
31:51
Speaker 2: you hopefully don't have a large department, but you need
31:55
Speaker 2: to have people ready, kind of like army reserve, which
31:58
Speaker 2: I was that when the flag goes, you have people
32:00
Speaker 2: that can process these claims of vaccine injuries. And that's
32:04
Speaker 2: one of our recommendations.
32:06
Speaker 1: Well see what they ever act on it, Brad Winster.
32:09
Speaker 1: But it's been a real pleasure to having you in here.
32:10
Speaker 1: Spent a whole hour on this particular topic. But I
32:12
Speaker 1: think it's such vital importance given the revelations from James Erdman,
32:16
Speaker 1: that I recommend my listeners all check out. I found
32:19
Speaker 1: the link. There's a whole hour and a half there
32:21
Speaker 1: so testimony on brightbart dot com. At least listen to
32:23
Speaker 1: his opening statement. It is mind blowing and this has
32:27
Speaker 1: legs and it's not going away anytime soon. From what
32:29
Speaker 1: I can tell.
32:30
Speaker 2: We can't let it.
32:31
Speaker 1: No, we cannot conresson former Congressrom Winster. Thank you for
32:34
Speaker 1: your time today. I'll look forward to having me back
32:35
Speaker 1: in the studio real soon.
32:37
Speaker 2: Pleasure, Brian, Thanks for having me today. It was very timely.
32:39
Speaker 1: You're always welcome here, coming up with seven fifty seven
32:42
Speaker 1: and coming up on after the top of the our
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Speaker 1: new is David Taylor.