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Weekend Recap, David Eickholt talks Hawkeyes & Bill Seals on the Cyclones · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on an
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overcast Monday here in the capital city.
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We welcome you as we kick off our week of sports conversation.
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller with you for the next couple of
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hours, right until just before 2O clock here on a Monday.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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Scott Document is off. He's in Los Angeles covering the
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Big 10 meetings. Hopefully there'll be some news
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coming out of that. I'm guessing it's mostly well
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playoff related, but we will talk to Doc next week.
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Today we're going to talk to David Eichelt.
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He just posted something on the I will receiving room.
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I will do football, basketball, etcetera with David Eichelt.
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224, seven sports coming up at 12:25, Bill Seals at 12:45.
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Hopefully the meet the Coaches caravan that is coming through
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Des Moines will be wrapped up by that time and Bill will be able
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to jump on and recap just as it's a wrapping up what what he
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heard, if anything, coming out of the first opportunity to
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spend some time with the coaching staff as they make
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their way through the state of Iowa.
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Bill Seals 1245 Matt Snyder talks baseball with Trenton
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eyes. He does every Monday or most
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Mondays at 1:00. Major League Baseball
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conversation with Major League Baseball columnist, writer Matt
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Snyder from CBSSports.com. And then long time golf rider
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Matt Rudy will join us at 1:30. We'll put a bow on the PGA.
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And you're right, by the way. Yeah, it does.
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It doesn't fit. It doesn't fit in May.
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What are you coming along with? Yeah, man, it's hard to get me
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to change my stance, but I've seen it a couple of years now.
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It just didn't feel like a major.
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It really did. And Aaron Rice sighed.
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I mean, Rory McIlroy could have won, and I would have felt the
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same way. It just didn't have that kind
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of, I don't know, special feeling.
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I still, I still think there's no other place to put it.
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I mean, it's got to compete with football in August.
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But maybe that's kind of the last grasp of summer sports.
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So maybe you, you know, maybe you lead lead you over to the TV
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to watch that. But I always thought it didn't
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work in August. I'm convinced it doesn't.
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In May. We'll see what the PGA does.
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Having said that, your thoughts on the tournament?
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Boring. Yeah, kind of, right.
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I mean, it was close for a while, but it was not the
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biggest names. Maybe Ron was in there and Rory
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was in there. I don't know.
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It just he had old bird for a while but he couldn't make a
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putt. He never makes a putt on Sunday
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trend he. Really.
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Doesn't that he's so talented. Yeah, you can see Sunday.
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Yeah, you can see the talents obviously there.
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He's still also young. Yeah.
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And maybe just because our expectations were so big for
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him, I started telling you about the Swedish kid.
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You did a long time. Ago play the Texas tacket and
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this is going to be a guy and he's been good, but we're
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waiting for that breakthrough moment from him, the leaderboard
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and just on Sunday, you're waiting all right, you got all
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these guys bunched together. This is going to be great golf.
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It wasn't. And Justin Thomas was a big
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name. Yes, he's sitting in clubos.
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Yes, absolutely. He goes out and and that was the
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thing going into Sunday. I see Thomas shoots A-65.
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Somebody else shot what, a 62, 63?
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Really. I didn't see that.
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Yeah, that was real early in the day.
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I'm like, here we go. I'm. 63 Kurt Katyama.
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Yeah, Katyama. So I thought, here we go.
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We're going to see a great Sunday with a bunch of different
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guys. It's going to be back and forth.
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Nobody made a putt. It was just boring golf.
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Well, Rye made a pot. He.
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Made he made the pot on 17. What, a back nine he put
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together. Deserving winner.
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I mean, this wasn't a yeah, this wasn't a fluke that he, you
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know, banged one off a couple of trees and ended up right by the
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cup. This was a heck of a round for
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him as he wins his major and Aaron Rye now the PGA winner.
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But it's just some something was lacking.
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I'm I'm anxious to get Matt Rudy's perspective on what he
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saw this past week. I'm guessing the numbers are
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going to be bad. Oh, I think so, TV wise.
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Yes, absolutely. You know, another component that
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I heard talking about changing calendar and some of the things
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that I read before we talked to Matt last week is there is a
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thought that the PGA Tour when they're kind of reimagining of
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what they're going to do. We know the playoffs don't work.
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They just they don't Casual. It doesn't work for the casual
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fan out there. And then more in.
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Football, yes, And you're getting into football.
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But a thought, and this would intrigue me and I think would
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intrigue you as well, is having some of those August tournaments
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if they don't move the PGA, but trying to elevate the playoffs
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in some kind of form and fashion.
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Having a couple of them at minimum on the West Coast and
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then you get into prime time TV. Yes, that's an idea.
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I said that's the best idea I have heard.
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It would have to be August. You have to get in front of
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college football on Saturday night and on Sunday night in the
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NFL. But.
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But if it did, August is an option.
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Yeah, that would move the needle.
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Absolutely would. We'll see where it goes.
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Finish up about 8:00 our time, something like that. 9:00 on the
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East Coast. Last night was God awful on TV.
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I mean, it was. It was absolutely terrible.
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We watched Harry Potter. Did you?
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Yes, I watched Troy. Shoot them.
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You went back to the Gators, huh?
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Well, I've got a bunch of them on tape.
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Oh, yeah. So one of the episodes I watched
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last night. This is how crazy these people
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are. Hey, they're hunting alligators.
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Yes, right. With a string and a hook.
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Yeah, they got a gun once you get them to the boat.
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But there's Troy's 82 year old mom.
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Oh, geez. In the boat.
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Was she helping get the Gator in?
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She was she was in verbally encouraged there you go to shoot
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him but but so swamp people. I just have to have something
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on. I know it's good noise from the
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idiot box. That's what did you guys my old
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man called it absolutely idiot box.
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Turn the idiot box off. Seattle and the Padres.
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Terrible baseball, awful. And trying to watch the game. 7
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Cavs, Pistons. I turned it off.
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I turned it off, too. Yeah, it was awful.
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I mean, feel free to You got the home crowd, you're coming from
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behind, you've got an opportunity to play the Knicks.
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And that's the egg that the Pistons laid.
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And they were a slight favorite last night.
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Or what? What, 4 1/2?
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Was it 4 1/2? I thought it was 2 1/2.
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They've got the four and a half. How would you have liked to bet
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Cleveland? Talk about it?
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No sweat. You cruised in, it was ugly.
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Oh, terrible. And on top of it, it was on
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Prime and it was on Prime. And once you flip away?
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No, I didn't try to go back. Unless you get an alert or you
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happen to flip out of your phone.
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Watch your necks. Yeah, covered on.
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Your something like that. If that's not happening, you're
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not getting back there. Nope.
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And we're not going to get, I don't think true numbers.
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No, probably. I always wonder about those
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streaming numbers too and what what is the reality behind it
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now. I think they can also actually
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judge it better because it's very simple.
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Yeah, you would think yes. Right.
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Yeah, I mean, all right, they clicked on it.
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Wrong on their account, yeah. But that's another thing too,
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where, I mean, you see some of the YouTube metrics and I deal
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with that a lot with my podcast and you see it well, what?
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Concert. Are you held to a certain number
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or something? Like that, we're not held to it,
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but it's something that are. You rewarded if you can do a
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different threshold. Well done.
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And, and subscribers and those kind of things, but what
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constitutes a watch here on radio?
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People use Diaries. That's how we get our numbers.
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And they have to actually write down the name of your show or
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the station that you're on. What?
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Time you're listening. Those are the things what long?
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You're listening for. And the people actually have to
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do it, and we're grateful. That you do by.
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Those, yes, absolutely. And if you got one of those
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books, don't forget Miller and Conda Nuda too.
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Apparently, they haven't. Trent, we're doing very.
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Well, that is very true. On the other side, you see, like
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on Twitter, this has this many impressions.
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What's an impression? Yeah, really?
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Do you read the whole thing? On Facebook, it feels like 80%
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of them are ads now when I'm on Facebook and I don't go there
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nearly as often as I once did, but you see those same kind of.
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Things I'm glad I'm not on. There, Yeah.
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And there's there's multitude. Now I think Instagram is about
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the only nice. One is it?
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Yeah, I'm not on that either. And that's not very good either.
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But is it all right? Yes.
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You saw it because you were scrolling past it.
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So that's an impression. So if I scroll past something
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they get, they get. If even if you hesitate, maybe
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for a moment. I don't know.
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I'm I'm not against giving them numbers.
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I'm really, I'll never, I don't understand people.
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I'm not clicking on that. I'm not going to give them a
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click, right? Why?
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What difference does it make? How does it harm you?
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If it interests you. Right.
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Yeah. So if I click on a video and
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it's 8 minutes and I watch 5 seconds.
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That's an impression. Is the video.
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And now it's a view, Yes, it's a view.
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You didn't watch 8 minutes, somebody watched 5 seconds.
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Like this is stupid, right? Moving on.
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But that's a view that's a little bit different than our
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business, you know, much different.
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Interesting. Well, we will see where the PGA
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ends up, hopefully. Well, here's my take.
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When it comes to the NBA, do you think the Western Conference
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maybe has a chance to be better than the Eastern Conference
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Final? I don't think either we're going
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to be very. Good.
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You don't. I don't.
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No. OK, because the Spurs beat OK C4
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of five in the regular season. In trouble?
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So are you taking the Spurs or you just think they are you
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because you're all over, OK. CI am I still believe in the old
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school way of thinking of the NBA.
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Their steps. The Pacers didn't take steps
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last year. They just we came onto the scene
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and Al Burton had a couple of daggers against the Knicks and
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and they skipped a step. That was such a fun.
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Unbelievable. Then, but I'm used to what the
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Pistons had to do getting past the Celtics and what the Bulls
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had to do getting past the Pistons and those steps that are
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just necessary. We've seen that even with OKC
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going back a couple years and you just that is the reality for
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the most part of the NBA. Basketball.
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So the Spurs have to take. They've got one more hill to
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climb before we anoint them, yes?
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There, there's one more lump in front of them.
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Maybe it's 4/2. I think it might be 4.
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One, I think they're going to cruise, and I think the Knicks
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are going to cruise. Well, I think the Knicks are
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home free, yeah. But I have that ticket.
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Thunder over Knicks from before the season.
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Prior to yes, you have that as the exact.
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The exacta. What did you get on that?
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13 to 1 wasn't great. And it's shorter than I would
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have thought, but everybody's got OKC on top.
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Yeah, absolutely right. It was one of those boosts on
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DraftKings. So I'm like, OK, I'll do that,
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jump on there, hit the boost 13 to 114 to 1, something like
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that. But do I take 10 bucks on both
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the Cavs and the Spurs to win this series?
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Both of the prices are about the same.
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Just to guarantee myself all right, you're going to get a
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profit out of it if you do it that way.
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So you're going to parlay the two conference winners together
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to get. Something.
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Just one each, one each. It's an individual bet on both
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of them, and if I get one wrong, so be it.
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At least I got a little something back.
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Well, it doesn't hurt. I mean, I'm in a good.
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I'm in a good spot. Yeah, you are in a good spot.
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Speaking of DraftKings, did you see that?
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And this is the taxi situation when it comes to sports wagering
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in Illinois. Remember the big to do.
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When DraftKings and the and Wrigley Field partnered up with
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that spanking new bar slash restaurant, it was great.
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It was huge. Went there with the Circa crew.
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We were in town, yeah. And it's pretty big, right?
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It's pretty well done. Yeah, and the the people from
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Wild Rose were there, so we had a nice booth up upstairs before
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the Iowa Northwestern came out. Kings is in partnership with
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Wild Rose as Circa. Yes, really fun time, really
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cool venue. I wonder what I wonder what the
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rent costs and then you couple it with, so can you explain why
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the rules in Illinois are so difficult and there's many
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sports book operators out there that are saying it is not
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financially viable. Well, they they in the state of
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Illinois, correct? They went into the state of
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Illinois with a tax rate of X, right, knowing that they could
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offer fair lines and the customers would get a would and
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they wouldn't have to, you know, manipulate the line.
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So they've got more of an edge over the customers.
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Well, when they went into Illinois, the tax rate was X.
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The leadership in Illinois said, yeah, you know what?
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That's what it was when we came in.
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We're just going to change this. Instead of the tax rate being X,
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we're going to make it XX or X * 2.
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And now it's just not feasible to A unless you want to totally
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screw the customers or or lose your shirt as an operator, you
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you have to swallow hard. And I'm guessing this is going
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to be pricey for DraftKings to get out of Illinois.
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All that money they invested in in the book to begin with.
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It's going to become a bar slash restaurant and it's going to be,
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I would anticipate somewhere down the road.
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So could you. You couldn't get access to
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Wrigley Field through the book, correct?
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Correct. You had to leave and go out
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again. I anticipate that somehow, you
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know, they'll be joined at some point, but that's what it is.
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It's just it's just not possible.
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It's like that's why why when sports wagering first came to
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Iowa, everybody wanted to be here because of the tax rate was
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set at such a number where it was fair to the operators and
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fair to the customers. Now, and it remains that way to
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this day, Illinois, it was fair to the operators, fair to the
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customers. Now it's unfair to the operators
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and who loses the customers because they're going to pass it
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on. This from the Chicago Tribune.
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In 2024, the state of Illinois increased the tax rate as high
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as 40% for larger online and retail sports betting platforms.
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That is based on adjusted gross wagering revenue.
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Last year also, Illinois added per wager tax of $0.25 each each
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bet and that's why you saw a lot of the operators.
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We have to have some kind of minimum.
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Again, have a $0.25 bet for people who just bet in a buck.
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Right. Yeah, I.
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Mean that's just again, you're talking about killing that it's.
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Screwing the customers. Absolutely, and that is going up
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to $0.50 per wager. After sports book fields more
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than 20 million bets in a year, that increases as well for
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DraftKings. This again from the Chicago
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Tribune. Strike three for the Wrigley
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Field venue may have been a new 10.25% tax implemented by
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Chicago in January on adjusted gross sports wagering receipts,
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so that's placed within the city at a retail operator.
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So it's even more absolutely how you can't afford to do business
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Illinois. You're just pushing them out of
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business. You know where they're pushing
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them back in the alleys. Absolutely.
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Back, back overseas, offshore, offshore.
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That's what I mean. The Cal she's and those crooks,
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that that thing that's scary. Yeah, it.
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Is when you're. Able to manipulate markets like
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they can. Well, people are taking the
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other side. Yeah, and people are apparently.
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It was a big. Thing on 60 minutes last night,
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but I don't think I would have watched.
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Yeah, but it was at the track and I couldn't have watched.
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But yeah, apparently there was a big thing on those markets last
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night on on 60 minutes, Game 7 tonight, NHL, Montreal and
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Buffalo. Puck drops at about hopefully
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just after 7, scheduled for 6:30.
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I'm hoping that's when the coverage starts, yeah. 7. 48
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because this dude will be in full flight.
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Frankly, we'll see where it goes, but I bunch a little.
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Game 6, did you? Yep, Buffalo really put it to
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him. Yeah, no, that big second period
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8/3. Yeah.
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Well, it was, it was, yeah, it wasn't that it wasn't a blow out
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like that, but it kind of made it that way.
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I kind of felt like I was you this weekend trying to watch
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sports on my phone. It's different, isn't it?
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Freaking differently different. I mean, I get I I get the
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signal, OK. It says, Oh my God, trying.
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You need to get. Your magnifying glass with you.
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'Cause these bifocals, I don't know I'm I'm trying anyways, you
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got a feel. For tonight's game seven, no.
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I think I'd like the visiting team, which is Montreal.
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I think the pressure's on Buffalo, right?
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I kind of feel that way. They're there for the first time
15:44
and forever. It's been a long time.
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Yeah, they got past the first round.
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Now it's been a. Long time since Montreal hung a
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banner but they got the history. I mean 949393.
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That's close. Yeah.
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Too bad. I'm going to give it to you.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I'll give you half a point for that one.
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Need that? Did you watch much baseball over
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the over the weekend? And did the White Sox Cubs
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capture your attention like it certainly did in this building?
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It did not for me because we had a lot of softball over the
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weekend. It was a very busy one.
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We played. There was no.
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Rain outs were there or what we. Had a delay on Saturday just now
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where they pushed everything back to get the fields ready on
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Saturday morning. But now we got pushed back.
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We played, we my daughter played six games in 27 hours.
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Yeah, so 3 on Saturday, then three on Sunday, Yesterday as
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they made it to the championship only.
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To fall, but still got. Rings got their banner, so got
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to the championship. Really get rings.
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Yes, absolutely. At the event.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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CIS Central Iowa Sports Yeah. Get some rings and get a banner
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that they all sign. And we put it up in our indoor
16:42
complex. So it was a frustrating final
16:45
game, but a that was a lot of softball.
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Yeah. That's you could see it on the
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young girls faces. I mean, they're 910 years old
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and you could see that's a lot. That's a lot.
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They slept well. Last night, yeah, Guessing.
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I wonder how Gary Dolphin slept this weekend.
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And where I'm going with this is, is he collateral damage on
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this whole story? Did Gary Dolphin know that it
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was about to hit the fan in the New York Post?
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Probably. Not probably not, right?
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I'm guessing the last thing Gary Dolphin needed, wanted, expected
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was to see his name splasher splashed all over the Internet
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on on Saturday morning. It just backs up my point and
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I'm right. I'm right.
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This could have been stopped now, potentially.
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I don't know if Gary Barta would have the sack to do it.
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Absolutely fair, right? Yes.
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But. If something would have been set
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and I heard more stories over the weekend from people that
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have brothers have family that worked at Carver walk by a
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narrow hallway and the men's basketball coach wouldn't even
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acknowledge a good good morning coach.
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Nothing wouldn't pick up his head wouldn't pick him.
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Now maybe you Steven thought no could yes, no, he wasn't he's a
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you know what, but it it didn't need to get this far.
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No, absolutely did not get to get this far.
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And when do? You have good leadership.
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It would not have gotten. It would not have.
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Got that far? It should have been stopped
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right after the event happened in the first place.
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Again, we're assuming Gary Barton would have done
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something, yes. But.
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I felt bad for Gary Dolphin. Man, I really and truly did a
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good. Soldier, a guy that cares
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nothing more than what is happening.
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He loves his gig, yes, as he should.
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He's a great gig, absolutely. Look, he's not.
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Doesn't seem like he's letting go anytime soon.
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It's a great gig. Beautiful pipes.
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Absolutely great voice. Loves the Hawkeyes.
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He is a guy that has become an institution.
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You think of the great calls throughout the years and
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everything that goes along with it.
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Well, the Drew. Tate I mean, yes, that's an old
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timer, Yeah. And.
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Clock's running, Drew. Tate doesn't realize that or
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something. I'm paraphrasing, but it's close
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He. And to be through that and just
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think of work environments, I mean, I think both of us have
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been in uncomfortable work environments in the past.
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And when you're going there every game and you're
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broadcasting a game and you know, the guy that is pacing up
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and down the floor next to you is like that.
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And that's what you're walking into from late October through
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March. I couldn't have been fun for no
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it. Couldn't it couldn't have been.
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Neither was this weekend I'm assuming.
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Swing it a miss. Let's get David Icolt in here as
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20:20
Icolt, how are you? Doing well guys.
20:23
How are we doing today? Doing OK I.
20:25
Guess we'll start with the piece you posted here this morning on
20:28
the receiver room, etcetera, etcetera.
20:32
Feels like it. And I know there's a lot of
20:33
Hawkeye fans pretty excited about this group.
20:35
It's been a long time since they've been able to say that,
20:38
you know, at this time of year, right, that there's this isn't a
20:41
wide receiver group that actually I think deserves
20:44
Hawkeye fans enthusiasm behind them.
20:46
Anxious to see how this plays out David, you and me.
20:50
Both. And it's very interesting kind
20:52
of looking at the room, right, because I think on paper there's
20:57
a lot more stability than there has been recent years.
21:00
I think there's a lot more, at least quality depth.
21:03
I don't think anybody's going to buy stock until they see it on
21:05
the field on Saturdays, and probably rightfully so.
21:08
It's like, fool me once, you know, shame on, fool me twice,
21:11
shame on me, fool me what, 9-9 years in a row where they
21:14
probably need some big receiver plays?
21:17
Everybody should be to blame. But it'll be really interesting
21:21
because I think Reese Vanderzee and Tony Diaz can be a really
21:24
solid 1-2. And then you have a bunch of
21:26
wild cards and guys that we've heard behind the scenes have
21:29
done a nice job, right? Like KJ Parker was great and the
21:32
spring game we talked about him last year, he flashed behind the
21:35
scenes kind of lacks that consistency when he had was on
21:38
the field and it symbols catching the football right.
21:41
I think at times he you catch it with his hands, but his whole
21:45
body would be turned up field looking to make an explosive
21:48
play. He would drop some routine
21:50
routine passes them. But I'm very interested about
21:53
this team. I think that there's a lot of
21:55
things working in their favor. But, you know, at the same time,
21:58
I'm also trying to sit back and evaluate why the receivers
22:02
haven't been up to par with the Big 10.
22:05
I'd say even power conference football, even Group of Five
22:08
football over the last eight or nine years.
22:10
I think there's a lot of factors.
22:11
So trying to go through all these interesting little fact
22:15
toys, it's been fun to kind of evaluate and give my opinion on
22:18
it. The quarterback.
22:19
Position I think became more muddled during the spring.
22:23
David, I believe you were on the Hicklenski camp.
22:25
I think almost everybody felt like they were definitely
22:27
leading that direction coming out of camp.
22:30
Now more almost a month removed from that last opportunity we
22:33
had to see him. Is this thing going to go right
22:35
up until game week, right in front of that Northern Illinois
22:38
game before we're really going to find out what the decision
22:41
is? A Kirk Ference and Company.
22:43
Yeah, and anybody that says they know who's going to be starting
22:45
quarterbacks lying to you, right, Go back to the tape.
22:49
I've talked to a bunch of people behind the scenes.
22:51
I know some people have looked at the highlights.
22:54
I'll say a couple things. One, I do still think Hecklinski
22:57
wins out, but I do think it's a lot closer of a battle than I
23:01
thought because I actually thought Hank Brown played fairly
23:04
well in the open spring practice.
23:07
Three, guys, don't let the completion percentages fool you.
23:09
I think a couple of things. One, his footwork looked world's
23:13
better than it did last fall and last spring, and I think that's
23:16
something that scares a lot of people, right When he gets
23:19
pressured, the footwork breaks down, the mechanics breakdown.
23:22
You can't go through all the routine sort of things.
23:24
I thought Hank Brown's ball placement was actually pretty
23:28
great. And I think the one surprising
23:29
thing to me was how much Hank Brown was willing to throw the
23:33
football downfield. I mean, you go back to even that
23:36
week we talked to Tim Lester. He said, look, the the one thing
23:39
I'm worried about Hank is he can go 17 for 20, but he has 17
23:43
yards to his name, right? Like he'll make the decisions,
23:46
but he'll he'll check down. He threw the ball downfield in
23:49
that. So I think that's how it works.
23:51
You can translate that over to end game.
23:53
You feel pretty good about what he can bring to the table.
23:56
But I just think Jeremy Heckwinski is a different sort
23:58
of athlete. I think is quickness and ability
24:01
to dodge oncoming defense and kind of outrun them.
24:04
Keep his eyes downfield. When you know he does extend to
24:07
play. It's going to be just really
24:10
interesting. I again, I will not be surprised
24:12
if we learned who the starter is when they put out the depth
24:15
chart on game week. That's kind of expectation at
24:18
this point speaking. Of expectations they're they're
24:21
seemingly for the first time in a long time when I look at this
24:24
roster, legitimate questions on both sides of the football.
24:27
And then it even trickles into special teams, right, with both
24:30
of the specialists, the kicker, punt punter and the kicker is,
24:35
is it going to be harder maybe to get a pre season grasp?
24:39
Not that your your feel is, you know, right every year, but at
24:43
least you can back up your opinion, right?
24:46
I'm not sure that when it comes to Hawkeye football this year
24:49
that that's going to be the case because there are seemingly, at
24:51
least to me, so many question marks.
24:55
Yeah, and I'm right up there with you.
24:56
And it's really funny because look, I love preseason rankings.
24:59
I mean, it's part of the reason why we love the job, right?
25:01
It's stupid, but we get to argue about it at least gives us stuff
25:04
to talk about. I've been, I've been surprised
25:09
that Iowa's ranked in the top 20 or 25 as often as they have now.
25:13
I do believe they are top 2025 team.
25:16
But where I'm going with that is if you look back over the past
25:18
couple of years and those Iowa teams that were barely preseason
25:22
ranked or not ranked, I think we knew more about those teams than
25:25
we did this year. I mean, this is an Iowa team
25:28
that has under 5000 career defensive starter snaps coming
25:31
back this year. And that's the lowest in power
25:34
for, right. But people are buying stock in a
25:36
Phil Parker and it's weird to say.
25:38
I think we know more about what to expect from the offense and
25:42
we do the defense at this point. And special teams.
25:45
I I do not envy, envy Chris Palisi because man, the
25:49
expectations of that unit, what Kirk Ference has done, replacing
25:53
all those things, I really don't think people should be taking
25:56
that for granted because I do think it's going to be an up and
25:59
down sort of thing. But I do think Iowa will have
26:02
another returner. But I'm right there with you.
26:04
I mean, I have legitimate questions about Iowa's defensive
26:07
line, especially defensive tackle.
26:08
We don't know who the starting quarterbacks going to be.
26:11
I feel really good about the DJ Venami and I feel really good
26:15
about the running back depth. They're going to go 4 deep
26:18
again, I think there's stability of wide receivers.
26:20
But the other part is how are these FCS and Group of Five
26:24
transfers, especially on the defensive end, how are they
26:28
going to integrate themselves and Phil Parker system and give
26:31
them a chance to stand out? So again, this is great since
26:34
we're being able to preview all these other things.
26:36
But I'm right there with you. I've been I think there's a lot
26:40
more meat on the bone, but comes to actually speculation about
26:43
what this group could be. And you know, it's crazy as it
26:46
sounds. I'm usually pre opinionated.
26:48
I I don't think there's a lot of wrong opinions because we just
26:51
don't simply don't know. Yeah, fair.
26:53
It's it's very difficult with this group to dig your heels in.
26:56
Not Iowa State difficult, right? That's a different level because
27:00
you're talking about 80 new guys on the roster.
27:01
But this is different than what we're used to, certainly with an
27:04
Iowa football program and and the lack of seniors also on the
27:07
Iowa side with what 10 scholarship seniors that are on
27:09
this group, That's going to be completely different.
27:11
I was hand in hand with recruiting.
27:14
How big is this recruiting class going to be?
27:16
We talked to Elliot last week. He mentioned that Sean thought
27:19
it was going to be maybe upwards of 20 over there at
27:21
hawkeyeinsider.com. That feels like a lot when he
27:23
only got 10 and they got the transfer portal.
27:26
After the season wraps up here, what are you hearing on the
27:28
recruiting ranks? And this is going to be a big
27:30
month coming up here the month of June.
27:32
They have all the guys coming in for their official visits.
27:34
Just take us a little inside Iowa Hawkeye football
27:37
recruiting. I got to tell you guys, I mean,
27:39
I'm right there with Sean, as crazy as it sounds, but you also
27:42
have to think about this. Do you know how many dudes are
27:45
on this year's Iowa team that they probably should not count
27:47
on coming back next season, right?
27:50
Because I mean, I look at Trevor Lau.
27:52
I think Trevor Laux can be a top two round NFL draft pick, a left
27:55
tackle, right? Kate Peeper could have left this
27:57
past year and then arguably a first round pick.
28:00
You look at Zach Lutmer, who people, you know, obviously
28:03
Cooper De Jeans had a lot of success with the Eagles.
28:06
Zach Luttmer, I don't think it's crazy to believe he could be a
28:09
top two round draft pick if he has a great senior year.
28:11
So while while the senior number is dauntingly low, I also think
28:15
you look just the overall talent that look, Iowa will only have a
28:19
certain amount of NIL dollars. Will they want to attack the
28:22
portal again? Will they want to, you know,
28:23
give give Zach Luttmer off an offer you couldn't refuse or
28:27
Kate Peeper or Trevor Loud. I mean, you know, another guy
28:30
who nobody's really talking about DJ Venom is going to be
28:33
eligible for the NFL. And, you know, he grew up
28:37
wanting to be a Hawkeye. We know what he could say.
28:39
I'll tell you, like, I don't want to put too many
28:41
expectations on, but I don't think it's crazy to believe that
28:44
he could have one of the best tight end seasons in Iowa
28:46
history. He he simply has that kind of
28:49
upside man, Like his blockings dramatically improved.
28:52
He can get the ball down field, he's run after the catcher,
28:55
spectacular. He's powerful, takes care of the
28:57
ball. There's really not a lot of
28:58
flaws in his game. So again, I would probably
29:02
expect it to be around 20. And then, you know, the other
29:04
part is Iowa goes 4 deep at running back.
29:07
All those guys have multiple years of eligibility.
29:09
Again, I hate speculating this, but there's only so many carries
29:13
and there's a lot of talent in that room.
29:15
So I think you have to basically say 20.
29:18
And then if Iowa has to, you know, advocate, gracer or give
29:21
them enough NIL money to make we're walking makes it worth it.
29:25
I think that's what they have to go.
29:26
But I don't envy Tyler Barnes's job as general manager and
29:30
trying to manage everything that goes on in college athletics
29:32
because it is a mess might be an understatement to say the least.
29:36
No, no question about it. So the last couple of years
29:39
we've when it comes to running backs, there's been one that's
29:42
kind of not snuck up, but certainly what maybe didn't get
29:45
the, the conversation, the the buzz around him, the hype,
29:50
that's that he that would ultimately fall his way based on
29:54
his performance. Who do you think that guy is
29:57
this year? Who's going to overachieve?
30:00
Man, that's a good question. You know, I don't want to say
30:04
overachieve, but here's why. I'm going to name the obvious
30:06
one, because his numbers should have been better last year.
30:11
Kamari Moulton. Yeah, this is a guy who had 878
30:16
yards, 5 yards of carry. He only had five touchdowns and
30:19
he never broke 100 yards in the game.
30:22
Look, LJ Phillips is going to be a big part of the equation as
30:25
well. The South Dakota transfer,
30:26
nearly 2000 rushing yards last year.
30:28
There's no question. I think Nathan Mcneil's going to
30:31
be tough to keep off the field. And then Xavier Williams also
30:34
popped out, right? So Jay Norvell has adopted a
30:37
very, very good group of the running back.
30:39
So again, it's the obvious one. But you talk about guy who I
30:42
feel like spent on the cusp of breaking out, a guy that could
30:45
consistently give you 8 to 10 yards.
30:47
How many times it was his shoe string tackle by his shoe
30:50
strings last year, right? I think added strength in the
30:54
lower half is going to really help him.
30:56
I wouldn't be surprised if he's going to.
30:57
I think he's going to break the 1000 yard mark, if not more than
31:00
that. I think he's going to have 10
31:02
touchdowns this year. Like Moulton's been a guy that I
31:04
feel like just been behind the scenes doing all the right
31:07
things, doing whatever's been asked of him.
31:09
Because again, Mark Gronowski was great in a bunch of ways,
31:12
but guys weren't where his touchdowns sounds a little bit
31:14
inflated because it felt like Moulton would get them within
31:17
the three or 4 yard line and then Martin Granowski would take
31:20
it in. Again, legitimate strategy.
31:22
I think Moulton has all the capabilities of being a top five
31:25
rank back in the Big 10 conference.
31:26
I I think he can be that good. I want to jump over to some
31:30
basketball recruiting going on. There's a lot of stories about
31:32
that up at hawkeyeinsider.com. But David, before we get to the
31:36
men's side, on the women's side, they got a couple of portal
31:38
editions last week. You cover the women's side of
31:40
things at Hawkeye Insider. What can you tell us about those
31:43
editions? Are they just depth pieces or is
31:47
there a real chance that maybe one of the two could help them
31:49
out in a not a huge way, but help in some capacity on the
31:53
floor of this season? It's funny trying because I do
31:56
think they are ultimately depth pieces, but when you only have
31:59
11 players on the roster, I'm pretty sure everybody should
32:02
have a shot at playing, right. So it does sound like that they
32:06
are going to stick with 11 players on this year's roster.
32:08
I mean, that puts a lot of pressure on the 27 recruiting
32:11
class and that portal, obviously.
32:13
But I also think you look at Iowa's backcourt like it's tough
32:16
to sell a power 5 caliber guard that they can come into Iowa
32:20
system make a difference because look, Danny Carnegie and
32:24
chitchat, right? They're both to be playing 30
32:26
plus minutes. Then you go down the D3 level, I
32:28
think, I think Bria Mandina Medina, I think it's a really
32:31
great addition. 23 points a game last year, the D3 level 5 foot
32:35
6. Not really an outside shooter.
32:38
Only made 21 of them last season, only attempted 59.
32:41
But she can get to the hoop. Crafty mid range jumper, 87%
32:45
from the free throw line. And it's somebody that comes in
32:47
without an ego, right? Like I've talked to people
32:49
behind the scenes. She didn't ask for any guarantee
32:52
of playing time, didn't ask for any money.
32:53
This is somebody who nearly decided not to play basketball
32:56
in college at all. She's just grateful for the
32:58
experience. Her average attendance last
33:01
year, Trenton Ken was 87 people in game.
33:06
It's going to be quite different when there's 15,000 people in
33:09
Carver Hawkeye. So I think that's a really nice
33:11
piece. And then Lasondra Bear has been
33:14
adamant about trying to get over and you know, have some
33:17
international prospects. So for IO to go get another four
33:19
year player and Ella Stromdale from Sweden, potential stretch
33:24
for players in a really high level and you know, over in
33:27
Sweden, I think she's a nice addition.
33:30
I would not anticipate her making an immediate impact, but
33:33
be able to sprout the scholarships and at least
33:36
showcase. I said she could be a potential
33:37
6 foot one, maybe a small lineup stretch four with Iowa going
33:42
back to that 4 hour offense. I think it's at least a solid
33:45
pick up for sure. Finally on.
33:46
The men's side, there's been a lot of talk about Kaden Doherty,
33:50
a top 20 player in the country, Iowa amongst the finalists for
33:53
him, a tremendous point guard. But they also offered another
33:56
point guard in the class of 2027 this week with Tyrone Jamieson.
34:01
Does that make you concerned about Doherty or hey, we're just
34:04
going to be fishing in a lot of different waters here?
34:06
What can you tell us about point guard recruiting?
34:09
You know, I think Iowa's become still accustomed to finishing
34:12
like, you know, like being the best man, like it's always
34:14
surprised me. Never the bride, right?
34:16
If Iowa doesn't land the top 20 prospects, but they lay in the
34:19
top 50 or 60, nobody's going to be complaining, right?
34:24
But Schaumbach was in Memphis. You got to see them all first
34:26
hand. I wouldn't be of any concern
34:28
because you know what the problem is if you know, if he
34:30
ends, if Kane Daughtry end up going to Michigan and I will
34:34
finish second that recruiting. What's everybody saying?
34:37
Well, they shouldn't have put all their eggs in one basket
34:39
right now. Now they're playing from behind.
34:41
So I think this is smart and McCollum and company, I think
34:43
they've made it abundantly clear that, you know, Kane's the top
34:47
prospect that they want. And I think after watching him
34:50
this weekend, guys dropped 37 and five on 15 to 23 shooting,
34:55
you can see why Ben Mccollum's really going all in on him.
34:58
But I think Iowa recruiting from an overall standpoint, I think
35:02
there's a buzz on the national scene like there hasn't been in
35:05
several years. But I'll tell you what exactly
35:07
what an Elite Eight run does, Absolutely.
35:10
You hit the magic words right there.
35:11
Good stuff David. I cold appreciate the input as
35:14
always. We'll talk to you down the road.
35:16
hawkeyeinsider.com. Thank you, David.
35:19
Appreciate you guys. Take care.
35:20
Yeah, good to talk to. You, David, I called as we check
35:23
in on Iowa. All right, we'll do the same.
35:25
Bill Seals, hopefully the meet the coaches opportunity.
35:29
The bill was taking place with his wrapping up.
35:31
We'll join. He'll join us when we come back.
35:33
On the other side, it's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
35:46
1245 Miller and Cond in Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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One O clock hour. Matt Snyder kicks it off.
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35:55
Look forward to that weekly conversation.
35:57
Matt Rudy will put a bow on the second major of the year, the
36:01
PGA. Yeah, it's brutal.
36:04
Let's talk to Bill Seals. He's covering the meet the
36:06
coaches opportunity. The caravan is making its way
36:09
across the state of Iowa. Bill, how are you?
36:12
Trenton, Ken, good to speak with you.
36:13
Is it all wrapped up, Bill? Yeah, all wrapped up and
36:27
excellent. Stuff.
36:28
We're going to call you right back to understood where it
36:30
stands, understand words. You said that does that on my
36:33
DIRECTV feed every now and then you have to, I don't know, stop
36:36
it and start it again. So we'll get to we'll reconnect
36:38
here with Bill Seals. That was that was tough.
36:41
We apologize for that. But cell phones seemingly not
36:45
much better in some spots than they were when they first came
36:48
out. Yeah.
36:49
I look forward to catching up with Bill.
36:50
I wonder if you could pull cyclone fans every age
36:55
demographic, men, women at the bussy site, a Bill site, a
36:59
Chris's site. What's the one question that
37:02
they have more than others? Let's get Bill back in here.
37:05
Bill that was unlistable. I apologize if he's you or us,
37:08
but we never could make we couldn't understand a word you
37:11
said. So if you would just restart
37:14
your answer please. Yeah, no, it was a it was a
37:18
good, good 45 minutes or so. We got Jimmy Rogers, PJ Ossel,
37:23
Burger Bill friendly for a little bit, Jamie Pollard.
37:26
So information overload and it's time to go put it all together
37:31
at cyclonereport.com. So good stuff, good stuff.
37:34
You know, I when we were reconnecting with you, I know
37:37
this is impossible to do, but I would love to know, you know, if
37:41
you could ask Cyclone fans only one question, what the one
37:44
question that they have with regardless of sport, regardless
37:48
of what anything else, one question that you would like
37:51
Iowa State to answer. What do you think that would be?
37:53
Would it be a football question? A basketball, men or women's
37:56
question? Side count, perhaps?
37:58
What do you think it would be, Bill?
38:00
What? What do Cyclone fans want
38:01
answered more than anything else?
38:06
Oh, gosh, you know, I, I could go across each sport.
38:11
I mean, only get 1 Rogers, obviously.
38:13
Oh, I only get one. OK, you know, gosh, I, I
38:18
actually think, you know, women's basketball with all the
38:21
transfers and the household names moving on and, and the
38:26
influx of transfers coming in, you know, the contract
38:31
situation. I I think that he's gonna be a,
38:34
a pretty, he's going to be pretty highly sought after I
38:38
think this week. So I think that they're going to
38:40
ask him, you know, just how his last month has gone.
38:44
And I, you know, I as far as the other sports, yeah, there,
38:47
there's going to be a lot of interest there.
38:49
But it seems like, you know, Jimmy Rogers has made the rounds
38:52
for several months now and everybody's kind of got to know
38:55
him. But this friendly stuff and the
38:57
women's basketball, the roster turnover, I think there's going
39:00
to be that that's going to be a pretty big one this week.
39:05
So we talked about it what a couple weeks ago with the ICLUB
39:08
circuit much different than it once was.
39:10
What is the Cyclone tailgate tour here in 2026?
39:14
It's much shorter. It's not a whole evening most of
39:16
the time. There's a couple of those
39:18
overall. But as you've gone to these
39:19
these things for years, Bill, how's it changed?
39:23
Well, it's, it's changed a lot. I've granted, I've been doing
39:28
this a long time and it used to be setting up shop and, and you
39:33
know, promoting a newspaper at a golf, a golf outing.
39:37
And there'd be, you know, a banquet afterwards.
39:40
And it just all, all the, you know, all the all small towns or
39:43
counties had their, their cyclone clubs and, and they'd
39:47
have outings. And it's the golf was
39:49
beforehand. Then you'd talk to the coaches,
39:51
administrators afterwards. And it's a lot different now.
39:54
There's not the, the golf aspect.
39:57
It's it's in the over the course of one week.
40:01
And that's even changed in the last few years.
40:03
That used to be broken up over 2 weeks.
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They'd go three days across two weeks.
40:08
Now that's changed. And I, you know, I think Des
40:11
Moines, you know, they maybe missed the boat a little bit.
40:13
I think today it, they had a great crowd in there and it was
40:17
for a show that was going to be from noon to 1.
40:20
And then they're on their way to eastern Iowa.
40:22
But do you imagine if they'd have had this thing at Hyvee
40:26
Hall or back at the Reflex? They would have needed a
40:28
facility four times the size because there was a huge crowd
40:32
in there when I took off. Interesting.
40:35
Just the fan base seemingly not warming up.
40:39
I mean, they're they're going to do as they're told.
40:40
They always have. But are they all on board with
40:43
the new regime of Cyclone football?
40:45
Are they, what's the enthusiasm? I guess meter from one to 10
40:50
when it comes to football, Bill. Well, I think that that it's
40:55
it's probably in the 7 to 8 range.
40:59
Maybe that increases a little bit this week that Jimmy Rogers
41:03
going to is going to get some FaceTime around a ton of cyclone
41:06
fans around the state. You know, I, I think, you know,
41:09
outside sources have the expectation level pretty low for
41:13
this team, But I, I think the excitement level is high though,
41:17
just because of, you know, they're seeing what the coaching
41:21
staff brought in and transfers and kind of what the short term
41:24
outlook looks like. And they're also recruiting
41:27
pretty well, I think here early on as well.
41:30
So they're kind of seeing, you know, the fruits of this staff's
41:33
labor and, and how that could look over a longer term.
41:37
So you had something interesting or buddy Mark Hanrahan was on
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the bump as Iowa baseball. Iowa State baseball 25 years ago
41:44
played in their final game. Certainly a sad one for so many
41:48
Cyclone fans. Baseball being what it is,
41:51
certainly in inside of our world.
41:53
Bill, take us back to the memories and we see women's
41:56
wrestling is going to be added. The question comes up often.
41:59
Usually the answer is a pretty quick No baseball ever returning
42:02
to Iowa State, but a lot of memories but a lot of
42:06
frustration over this latter last quarter century when you
42:09
see how good Big 12 baseball is. Yeah, it really is.
42:14
And there's a lot of pretty much now the way you can watch any
42:18
Big 12 team on TV anytime you want with like ESPN Plus or
42:23
unlimited or what you know what, what have you now?
42:27
And it just seems like, yeah, it's it's would be a great
42:31
opportunity, but I just I don't foresee it it happening.
42:34
It seems like cutting is the way now at at, you know, this level
42:41
just because you're paying players now and and you know,
42:44
Idol 9 is going to limit what you could ever add probably in a
42:48
men's sport where you've got X amount of scholarships.
42:51
But you know, my memory of that last game is I think I I
42:54
actually was coming back from Ames and that might have been
42:57
like a spring, maybe like a spring football type of thing or
43:01
whatever. And listening to that game on
43:03
the radio, really. And and Iowa State winning that
43:06
game. Yeah, I think they had it on
43:07
Kasi had all the home games and in Ames 141430 back then had all
43:13
the Iowa State that baseball games and I can remember
43:16
listening to that one. Yeah.
43:17
And it was just, and I think they came back and maybe even
43:21
like walked it off or they had come back from behind and held
43:25
on for the win. One of those two.
43:27
But yeah, I mean, it was a, it was a definitely a memorable
43:31
last win for the the baseball program.
43:33
Good stuff. Bill Seal cyclonereport.com Part
43:36
of the rival slash on Three Network.
43:38
Bill, is this your only stop on the tailgate tour?
43:42
Will you catch up a couple more times?
43:45
I think I got everything I needed today, guys that it, it
43:50
was pretty wide, wide-ranging stuff from all of the coaches
43:54
and the AD. So, you know, lots of good stuff
43:58
come out of that. I, you know, I was going to tell
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you too, Kenny, you're always asking me about River Peppers.
44:03
Yes. And we got a River Pepper.
44:04
We got a River Peppers update today from Jimmy Rogers and
44:09
they're expecting him to be back in less than a year from when
44:13
that injury happened. So it sounds like he could maybe
44:17
impact this team ahead of Big 12 play.
44:21
So I think that changes the outlook a lot at at running back
44:25
there. They've got a kid on campus, A2
44:27
lane transfer start the day. So no good news on the River
44:31
Peppers. Yeah, that would make.
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Your day? Absolutely.
44:35
He's. Got a great name, Bill Seals
44:36
cycleandreport.com. You do a great job, Bill.
44:38
Thanks for doing this, buddy. We'll talk to you.
44:40
Well, we're all off on Monday, so we'll grab you early next
44:43
week. Thanks, Bill Seals.
44:44
Appreciate it. Yep, looking forward to the
44:46
guys. Have a good one.
44:47
Yep, good to talk. To you.
44:48
Good to talk to you. You know what is.
44:50
So I'm off the next couple days. Can we have Mark Hanrahan on
44:52
Thursday? Yeah.
44:53
Absolutely see it it. So I'm trying to think back to
44:57
being on the air back in that time.
44:59
It wasn't the major story that it would have been today, I
45:03
don't think. And maybe that's just I'm at
45:06
fault, maybe that I don't know why it wasn't a bigger story.
45:12
I mean, certainly we discussed it, but it didn't get the, I
45:17
don't think the the coverage the following the maybe that it
45:19
should have. My great uncle was on one of the
45:22
College World Series teams. Was he 1957?
45:25
Yes, Mark. Hanrahan, if you're listening,
45:27
I'm going to text you and line this up for Thursday.
45:30
Good stuff. Hour 2 coming up next, Matt
45:32
Snyder joins the program Little baseball conversation.
45:36
Matt Rudy as well Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
45:39
Network.