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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Fields Donal Group and now
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Speaker 1: a guy for whom there is no vaccine. J p
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Speaker 1: Sha Trick welcome in. I don't know if that's a
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Speaker 1: compliment or not. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields
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Speaker 1: Auto Group on a Wednesday, heading into week fifteen. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are heading to the Inner Harbor. Snowy up there today,
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Speaker 1: but it should be cleared off by Sunday and the
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Speaker 1: Jags and the Ravens will get going Sunday at one
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Speaker 1: o'clock at M and T Bank Stadium. We have a
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Speaker 1: busy show for you today as always. Lucky Brooks, NFL
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Speaker 1: Network Analyst and John Oshan, Jaguars dot Com Senior writer,
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Speaker 1: join us. Minshew Mania returning. Yes, he's getting the start
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Speaker 1: this week against those Baltimore Ravens against plays Campbell, Unique
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Speaker 1: and Gockway and all the rest on the defensive side. Mens.
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Speaker 1: You today said that in Gockway will be out for
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Speaker 1: blood in Sunday's game, and I don't doubt it either.
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Speaker 1: Three games to go in this season, the uniform unfailing.
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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Jimmy Luck, head equipment manager, and we'll
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Speaker 1: play big game Jaguar gets you ready for Sunday's matchup
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Bucky Brooks John osan with us, Johnny, Oh,
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Speaker 1: what's up man? Not a lot? Not a lot j
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Speaker 1: V here we are. I kind of laughed at the
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Speaker 1: at the out for blood comment, and I will get
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Speaker 1: into that later as we talk about this game. No doubt, Bucky.
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Speaker 1: It's it's going to be an interesting matchup this week
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Speaker 1: seeing those guys on the other side. Yeah, very interesting matchup.
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Speaker 1: Two guys will be highly motivated to take their frustrations
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Speaker 1: out on the Jacksonville Jaguars, and'll be interesting to see
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Speaker 1: how they plays out. Alright, guys, let's get right into it.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the quarterback position. It's the most important position,
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Speaker 1: shouldn't now when the team is one and twelve and
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Speaker 1: has lost twelve in a row. I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: anything that you can call a quarterback controversy that doesn't
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Speaker 1: really qualify. But mins she was getting the start again.
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Speaker 1: I played in last week's game, came in the third
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Speaker 1: quarter and against some soft defenses, got some yardage, moved
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Speaker 1: the offense down the field, a bit, But Bucky, this
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Speaker 1: is one where they've they've got to try to find
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Speaker 1: a spark somehow down the stretch here. So Doug Moron's
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Speaker 1: going back with the mustache. Yeah, this is all about
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Speaker 1: the coaches trying to find a way to get a win.
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Speaker 1: And you know, they went with Mike Lennon po a
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Speaker 1: handful of games, couldn't necessarily get it going, and it
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Speaker 1: kind of started fading on him. You started going to
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Speaker 1: mince you jump in the game, lead a team on
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Speaker 1: a drive for a touchdown, come back, and kind of
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Speaker 1: move the ball. And so they want to give him
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Speaker 1: an opportunity. Now that's typically different. We miss you comes
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Speaker 1: in off the bench as opposed to when he starts
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Speaker 1: a full game and everyone knows. So we'll see how
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Speaker 1: he deals with this Baltimore Ravens defense that likes to
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Speaker 1: bring pressure from all angles. It had been an issue
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Speaker 1: for him earlier in the the year. Maybe he's mature and
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Speaker 1: maybe he's a better player against the blizz Now we'll
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Speaker 1: find out. John in a hurry. Well, you said there's
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Speaker 1: no controversy. I'll tell you what the controversy is. Why
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Speaker 1: don't they have a better quarterback somewhere? So I'm not
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Speaker 1: trying to be snyed about it. But that's the controversy
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Speaker 1: is they don't have a guy that they feel good
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Speaker 1: about starting. So I've said all week, I've gotten a
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Speaker 1: lot of criticism in my ozone mail bag about why
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Speaker 1: doesn't Doug make a decision. He keeps on saying this,
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Speaker 1: He keeps on saying this. When you don't have a
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Speaker 1: frontline guy, all a coach can do is keep playing guys,
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Speaker 1: hoping somebody plays like a frontline guy for a game
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Speaker 1: or two. This week's choice is Gardner mensh it. But
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Speaker 1: it's not more than that. That's not what That's not what.
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Speaker 1: The controversy is not who's starting, it's why are they
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Speaker 1: in this situation? Ifully they get solved in the off season.
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Speaker 1: I'm fired up, Buck, I'm fired up. Okay, I like it.
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Speaker 1: J when you when you fired up? So you just
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Speaker 1: keep d energy, keep danagy 'all sixty minutes, sixty minutes.
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Speaker 1: We've got a long conversation of course this offseason about
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Speaker 1: that position moving ahead, and of course running game is
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Speaker 1: quarterback's best friend. When things aren't going well, you can
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Speaker 1: hand it off to James Robinson. He's over one thousand
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Speaker 1: yards rushing for the season and closing in now on
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor's rookie franchise rushing mark of three yards back in.
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Speaker 1: It feels like he's going to get close to that,
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Speaker 1: if not surpassing, very soon the next couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: You know, and and Gardner said this week he's been
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Speaker 1: great for his fantasy team, Bucky, and he's got him
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Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs, which is a good sign. But
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Speaker 1: Mr consistent James Robinson week after week and we see
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Speaker 1: it every week. Yeah, he's been terrific. Uh Normally you
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Speaker 1: don't think of an undrafted player being the top ops
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Speaker 1: in the offensive game player, but James Robinson is that.
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Speaker 1: Uh you just see it. I mean over scrimming Jars.
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Speaker 1: He's been a terrific player and he hasn't had the
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Speaker 1: negative runs and so when you've given him the ball,
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Speaker 1: he has found the way to keep just team his
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Speaker 1: offense on schedule. I think the future is bright for
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Speaker 1: James Robinson. I think they may have uncovered really a
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Speaker 1: great one in the undrafted free agent market. Two negative
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Speaker 1: runs last week, so fourteen for the season now, John,
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Speaker 1: And you know, that's one of those where it looked
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Speaker 1: like the Titans last week. We're going to let him
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Speaker 1: get rolling early. So the Jags kind of went away
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Speaker 1: from him in that second quarter a little bit. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much more we can say about
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Speaker 1: James and has played this year. John Well, they went
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Speaker 1: away from it because at some point, and I've seen
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Speaker 1: this a couple of times this year, you've always say,
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Speaker 1: run James Robinson, Run James Robinson. Well, if the defense
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Speaker 1: is completely stacked against the running back, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: just beat your head against the wall every play. If
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Speaker 1: you look, if you analyze what the other teams doing,
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Speaker 1: and you continue to run something that's not gonna work.
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Speaker 1: And that's negligent on the part of the coaching staff.
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Speaker 1: So I think they saw in the first half. Look,
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Speaker 1: they are trying to do anything you can to stop
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Speaker 1: this guy. We've got to go another route. Even if
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Speaker 1: logic tells you to James Robinson's their best player, you
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Speaker 1: still have to be able to come off that. That's
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Speaker 1: gonna be Gardner's challenge the rest of the season as
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Speaker 1: long as he plays too often. In the first seven games,
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Speaker 1: he really couldn't get the defense back with his throws.
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Speaker 1: Everything was bunched up to check downs made everything happened
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Speaker 1: within ten or twelve yards. For James Robinson to be
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Speaker 1: successful the last three games, they've got to keep pushing
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Speaker 1: that defense back with throws. We haven't really seen that
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Speaker 1: out of Gardener, but I think that's the storyline against
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Speaker 1: the Ravens for the Jaguars offense on Sunday. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's get into this Ravens defense here, guys, it's Patrick
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Speaker 1: Queen leads the way in tackles. They don't quite have.
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Speaker 1: They brought in cock Way in the trade, but he
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Speaker 1: hasn't really done a lot statistically with the Ravens that
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Speaker 1: Callias Campbell has been as just a veteran player trying
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Speaker 1: to fight through some things. Buckey, what stands out the
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Speaker 1: most about this Ravens defense. I think the aggressiveness, the physicality,
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Speaker 1: and maybe the multiplicity of what they do Underwing Martin deal.
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Speaker 1: This is a team that wants to heat you up.
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Speaker 1: About of the time they bring pressure and then they
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Speaker 1: follow it up with what they simulated pressures where it
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Speaker 1: ends up being a four man rushed with seven in
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Speaker 1: the coverage. But they bring so many different people from
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Speaker 1: so many different angles. They really tests the awareness and
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Speaker 1: the acumen of the quarterback. And so I think the
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Speaker 1: blitz and bluff strategy that the Ravens will employ against
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Speaker 1: Garner Minshew is gonna be a difficult one because they
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Speaker 1: get home early and they hit him a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: He could begin to see goals because you just don't
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Speaker 1: know where the guys are coming from and how many
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Speaker 1: are coming. Yeah, it is going to be quite a
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Speaker 1: challenge this week. It's a challenge every week. We know this,
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Speaker 1: We've said this on this program before. But with with
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Speaker 1: that kind of defensive set up john challenge for Minshow. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Ravens to me feel like a team that they're
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Speaker 1: not a super Bowl favorite this year. I talked to
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Speaker 1: Clifton Brown, who covers them in my role. Uh, they're
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Speaker 1: not a favorite going in, but with a couple of tweaks,
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Speaker 1: with a couple of things, they're a group that could
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Speaker 1: still do it. There's a group of teams that could
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Speaker 1: still do it. One of the tweaks they have to
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Speaker 1: make is getting their run defense right. They're used to
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Speaker 1: being able to stop the run and that's the and
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Speaker 1: they rely on that. They assume they can stop the run.
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Speaker 1: Most year they haven't been able to do that this year.
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Speaker 1: They're very talented, as Bucky said, but that's been a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a blind spot form that they haven't
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Speaker 1: been able to fix. If they fix that, then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden they're back to last year where they're
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Speaker 1: one of the favorites going in. I you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't want to be Joe pessimist, um, but to me overall,
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Speaker 1: this feels like a tough matchup. The only hope the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have is that the Ravens run defense, which has
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Speaker 1: struggled somehow, can't figure out James Robinson and he's able
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Speaker 1: to control clock. They're able to keep that off the field.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that sets Minshew up for some place. That's the hope,
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Speaker 1: And that's okay, because James Robinson is a good hope.
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Speaker 1: But you just get the idea that is one dimensional
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Speaker 1: as the Jaguars offense fields. The Ravens are good enough
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Speaker 1: defensively to stop one dimension. All right, let's get a
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Speaker 1: little deeper into the former jag talk here, Klaas Campbell
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Speaker 1: and Unique and got way Andrew Normal is going to
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Speaker 1: excuse my practice this week, and Dug Morton seemed pretty
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Speaker 1: positive that he'll be able to play on Sunday. That's
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Speaker 1: a good sign in the interior there. Um Well, Calias
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Speaker 1: said about a three sack game a while back, like
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Speaker 1: Week six of the season, but hasn't done a lot
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Speaker 1: statistically since then. Bucky, what kind of season has Klias
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Speaker 1: had in Baltimore. Well, there's been a little up and down.
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Speaker 1: I think some of us to transition into a new defense.
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Speaker 1: Some of that has been dealing with injuries and the like.
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Speaker 1: But I think this team is positioned to really lean
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Speaker 1: on him as they make the dash for the cash,
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Speaker 1: meaning they make their run for the postseason. If this
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Speaker 1: team gets into the postseason, because they can play a
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Speaker 1: style that is really different and unique, they can be
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Speaker 1: a handful. The offense speaks for herself with Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1: and controls running around like a madman. But defensively because
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Speaker 1: of the combination of pressure, the personnel that they've had,
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Speaker 1: and then the experience because they played in a number
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Speaker 1: of big games, this is the team's that I watch
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Speaker 1: out for all right, and then unique and got Quay John.
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Speaker 1: We mentioned at the top. He Gardner mention thinks he's
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Speaker 1: going to be out for blood this week, But so
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Speaker 1: far in Baltimore, seven tackles, one sack, two quarterback hits
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Speaker 1: or Unike and got way of former Jaguar's third round pick. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: very quickly, I'll touch on Calais real quick. I have
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Speaker 1: a thought on that. He the Ravens got him for
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Speaker 1: what's coming up, not what's in the rear view. You
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Speaker 1: had to know when you're going after a guy like
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Speaker 1: Calais at his age, he probably wasn't going to give
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Speaker 1: you nineteen games, which is what the Ravens want to play.
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Speaker 1: Because of his age. That's the reason the Jaguars let
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Speaker 1: him go. Last year, he had a three set game
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Speaker 1: against Tennessee, didn't really do that much the rest of
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Speaker 1: the year. Similar situation for the Ravens this year. But
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Speaker 1: if he plays well the last six games they hope,
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Speaker 1: then it's a great trade for the Ravens. As far
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Speaker 1: as Unique, you know, he's a baffling story in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways. He gets traded to the Vikings. They
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Speaker 1: traded five weeks later. Feel like the run defense got
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Speaker 1: better after that. Unique is not playing a whole lot
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Speaker 1: because of sort of what the knock on him. Was
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Speaker 1: not a great run player, just a pass rusher, having
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Speaker 1: trouble getting on the field, so I guess he'll be
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Speaker 1: out for blood. I hope for his sake that he
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Speaker 1: gets on the field throughout his career and has a
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Speaker 1: great career, but right now, not the impact player the
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Speaker 1: Ravens had hoped for. But that's what he is. He's
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Speaker 1: a great pass rusher and not a great run defender.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, when I think about Janick, I think of
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Speaker 1: him as kind of a complimentary pass rusher mining because
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Speaker 1: you have someone in place and he is on the
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Speaker 1: back side, kind of eating off of their leftovers. When
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Speaker 1: I look at whether they have in in Baltimore, they
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Speaker 1: certainly have those pieces in place for him to be
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Speaker 1: able to do so. But it's a matter of him
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Speaker 1: getting really, really comfortable in Wink Mortondale scheme. So he
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Speaker 1: may not be an A plus player, but he's certainly
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Speaker 1: a nice B plus with with with a bullet he
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Speaker 1: can be a guy that can take over games and
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Speaker 1: create chaos. If you don't have the guys on the
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Speaker 1: edges that can handle this speed, well, just keep running
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Speaker 1: the ball and stay in those favorable situations down in
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Speaker 1: distance and see if they can take advantage of that
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Speaker 1: against the Ravens this week. Hey, let's come back. I
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Speaker 1: Heading again into week fifteen, the Jags and the Ravens
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Speaker 1: coming up. The Jaguars had some leg breaking transactions just
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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. Well, the other day they placed
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Speaker 1: Ben Bartch the left guard on the reserve COVID nineteen list. Well,
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Speaker 1: they've now added another player to the reserve COVID nineteen list.
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Speaker 1: Cornerback Trey Herndon has been added. Randon Lender has been
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Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve with that ankle injury, so it
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Speaker 1: sounds like he's done. So Herndon and and Bart's two
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Speaker 1: players now John on the COVID nineteam list. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's the most impact the starting group has had
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Speaker 1: this year on the list. Yeah, it feels like I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to remember the rest of the Uh. It may
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Speaker 1: have been a practice squad deal before that. Um, what
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Speaker 1: you hope is it's not more you know, one today,
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Speaker 1: one yesterday. You hope that's the extent of it. You
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Speaker 1: can probably get through what they've had so far. Herndon
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Speaker 1: certainly a loss, uh, but it's it's what teams have
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Speaker 1: been dealing with. And I think a lot of teams
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Speaker 1: that say, well, welcome to the club, especially the raven
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Speaker 1: We've dealt with as much as anybody. Right, the Ravens
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Speaker 1: would no Bucky because they just went through this recently. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they would. They're gonna be then that will be very
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Speaker 1: pathetic to the Jaguars play if they have a handful
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Speaker 1: of guys that have to sit out because of contract,
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Speaker 1: contact tracing or anything like that. And so this is
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Speaker 1: a situation where all year coaches have had to be adaptable,
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Speaker 1: They've had to be flexible, They've had to prepare the
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Speaker 1: practice squad guys more now than ever, and so hopefully
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Speaker 1: they have put practices in place where they give those
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Speaker 1: guys enough rest where they can be comfortable. But it's
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Speaker 1: one of those things where we've seen any stranger things
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Speaker 1: happen this year, and you have to be ready to
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Speaker 1: have your backups play and play a prominent role in
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Speaker 1: the game. All right. So there you have it. Two
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Speaker 1: players now from the Jaguars in the reserve COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: list Ben Bartch the other day and then just now
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Speaker 1: Tray Herndon Jaguars cornerback place downe there as well. We'll
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Speaker 1: keep you posting on any other changes there. Let's get
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Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens offense against this Jaguars defense. You know,
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Speaker 1: we were always talking about being gaps sound and being
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Speaker 1: in the right place on defense, but certainly the case
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Speaker 1: this week when you have Lamar and Jackson, who can
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Speaker 1: pull it out of running backs belly and run on
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Speaker 1: his own for seventy yards and a touchdown. This guy
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Speaker 1: is the m v P of the league of course
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Speaker 1: a year ago. And Bucky, I mean, they're starting to
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Speaker 1: roll with him. And you know, there was some in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the season he wasn't throwing the ball
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Speaker 1: exceptionally well, there was a lot of talk out of Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: but that seems to avoided a little bit since they're
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Speaker 1: starting to get back in the race. You know, the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are I mean, they're an explosive offense. They're
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Speaker 1: explosive in a in a different light. When John Harbor
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Speaker 1: made the change to this offensive style, he said, we
18:35
Speaker 1: want to be the Army of the NFL. And so
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Speaker 1: if you look at Army games, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: grounded pound, I mean all grounded pound, and that's where
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Speaker 1: the Ravens when they're doing that, that's when they're at
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Speaker 1: their best. Lamar Jackson running the ball, they're giving it
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Speaker 1: to three or four running backs in the backfield. They're
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Speaker 1: coming downhill with these power gap schemes and mr directions
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Speaker 1: and it puts your defenders at the front line in
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Speaker 1: a bind. And so the Jaguars have to think about one.
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Speaker 1: They gotta mesage the physicality and toughness too. They have
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Speaker 1: to be gap sound and really understand where they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be in terms of the overall feeth of the defense.
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Speaker 1: And Three, you've gotta be able to tackle and tack
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Speaker 1: the number eight in space has been a challenge for
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Speaker 1: everyone in the league his first three seasons. We'll see
19:17
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars up to the challenge. Yeah, John, he
19:21
Speaker 1: can light you up in a hurry well, and you
19:25
Speaker 1: can be as gap sound as you want against this guy,
19:29
Speaker 1: and he can make you miss in a gap and go.
19:31
Speaker 1: So that's that's what makes him special. I I I
19:35
Speaker 1: knew he would run for a lot of yards. I
19:37
Speaker 1: kind of re looked it up. Uh last year, that's
19:42
Speaker 1: staggering for a quarterback. Uh, this offense is different. The
19:48
Speaker 1: flaw in it obviously, as if it falls behind me
19:51
Speaker 1: and the Ravens, it can be difficult for it to
19:55
Speaker 1: catch up if it gets in that sort of a game.
19:58
Speaker 1: Can the Jaguars make him fall behind? Uh? They the
20:02
Speaker 1: cynics out there, Bucky's at one and twelve. But have
20:05
Speaker 1: you say probably not? I mean they can't, so I think.
20:11
Speaker 1: I think here's the thing that you have to understand
20:12
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson.
20:16
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is at his best. We can talk about
20:18
Speaker 1: him being a dynamic runner. They basically are running the
20:20
Speaker 1: single wing. They want to put it in his hands
20:22
Speaker 1: as a runner ten to twelve times and allow him
20:25
Speaker 1: to impact and influence the defense because when they begin
20:28
Speaker 1: to chase him, that's when they handed off to mark Ingram.
20:30
Speaker 1: Because Edwards J. K. Dobbinsn't have a lot of success
20:33
Speaker 1: in the passing game, it is really important for the
20:35
Speaker 1: Jaguars to jam the middle of the field. Lamar Jackson
20:39
Speaker 1: is at his best throwing inside the numbers. If you
20:42
Speaker 1: can force him to throw the ball to the boundary
20:44
Speaker 1: outside and down the field, he struggles in that area.
20:47
Speaker 1: Going all the way back to Louisville. That has been
20:49
Speaker 1: his achilles uh tendon, and so that's been his Achilles hills.
20:53
Speaker 1: So you have to play them in a specific way
20:56
Speaker 1: because the Jaguars play a single high defense that could
20:59
Speaker 1: work in their favorite But now it's about can you
21:01
Speaker 1: execute the game plan because they don't know what to do,
21:04
Speaker 1: but can they get it done? That is what todd
21:06
Speaker 1: Watch has to figure out. Edwards and Dobbins have been
21:10
Speaker 1: getting a lot of the running back play, and Ingram,
21:13
Speaker 1: I think has been banged up a little bit this year. Bucky,
21:16
Speaker 1: what's his story? You know, here's the thing with Mark Ingram. J. K.
21:20
Speaker 1: Dobbins is by far their most talented and most explosive runner,
21:23
Speaker 1: but they still want to do it by committee because
21:25
Speaker 1: Ingrad brings some value and it's kind of what I
21:28
Speaker 1: call it, kind of like the trash can run of
21:29
Speaker 1: the garbage running. He gets all the dirty yards, does
21:31
Speaker 1: all the stuff in between the tackles, but he doesn't
21:34
Speaker 1: have the explosive potential of some of the other guys,
21:36
Speaker 1: but he still has value. And so when I look
21:39
Speaker 1: at this team and I look at him, he plays
21:42
Speaker 1: a key role. But they're better when J K. Dobbins
21:46
Speaker 1: and Gus Edwards are handling the book of the carries.
21:51
Speaker 1: So the Jaguars defense is well walking wounded to begin with.
21:56
Speaker 1: We've talked about this over the last few weeks and
21:59
Speaker 1: now with another addition to the COVID nineteam list. This
22:03
Speaker 1: is a thin group to begin with, and John it
22:07
Speaker 1: is it's challenge every week, but against a group like this,
22:12
Speaker 1: it just becomes more and more challenging as the weeks
22:14
Speaker 1: go on, especially when you're losing players. Yeah, I'm not
22:18
Speaker 1: sure how much more there is to analyze when you
22:22
Speaker 1: think about it in this way, losing Trey Herndon. The
22:26
Speaker 1: good news is it sounds like you're getting Claybrooks back,
22:29
Speaker 1: so you're not down ridiculously at the cornerback position. You know,
22:34
Speaker 1: they're already down so far. I don't know that there's
22:37
Speaker 1: a huge talent drop off anymore when they lose guys
22:39
Speaker 1: because they're bugging guys in. Yeah. Not in the case
22:43
Speaker 1: of Trey Herndon, but a lot of times you're plugging
22:47
Speaker 1: rookie free agent in for rookie free agent now. So
22:51
Speaker 1: unless you lose Miles Jack, unless you lose you know, uh,
22:55
Speaker 1: show Bert I don't know that you're losing anything you
22:59
Speaker 1: can't place because it's such a struggle. They're working so hard,
23:03
Speaker 1: they're playing so hard. If you've got to give him credit,
23:06
Speaker 1: the key is can try hard beat the Ravens, and
23:11
Speaker 1: you try hard. Has faded in the fourth quarter and
23:15
Speaker 1: earlier the last two or three weeks. Uh. Yeah, I'm
23:20
Speaker 1: not sure if XS and O's breakdown can say much
23:23
Speaker 1: more than what I just said. They're depleted, and you
23:26
Speaker 1: wonder how long they could hold up against an offense
23:28
Speaker 1: as talented as the raven Wow. Where they are about this?
23:34
Speaker 1: They are? I mean they yeah, we definitely depleted. I
23:38
Speaker 1: would say the one the saving grace with the Jaguars,
23:40
Speaker 1: Potentially you could be the struggles of the Baltimore Ravens
23:43
Speaker 1: offensive line. They struggle when they are put into long
23:47
Speaker 1: yarded situations when it's obvious passing downs. They're just not
23:50
Speaker 1: good enough up front, and so if ty Wash is
23:54
Speaker 1: able to do some things on early downs to get
23:56
Speaker 1: them behind the change maybe be a more aggressive first
23:59
Speaker 1: down blitz team that could play into the Jaguars hands
24:03
Speaker 1: because the pass for us might be able to just
24:06
Speaker 1: affect Lamar Jackson a little bit. And we've seen when
24:09
Speaker 1: they have eyes and vision and play vision and break coverage,
24:11
Speaker 1: they could have an opportunity to get to hands on
24:13
Speaker 1: some boss. It does feel like, though, that the Ravens
24:19
Speaker 1: are on the verge of a little run here at
24:22
Speaker 1: the end of the season to get into the playoffs.
24:25
Speaker 1: I mean after that win Monday night, that game was
24:28
Speaker 1: spectacular and the way they won the game, that gives
24:31
Speaker 1: a team momentum. John, if you can get it going
24:35
Speaker 1: well there, I guess I would call him desperate. You know,
24:39
Speaker 1: they're an absolute must win mode. Their schedule lays out
24:43
Speaker 1: that they can win the rest of their games and
24:46
Speaker 1: they have to. So when you combine that with being
24:50
Speaker 1: a veteran team, when you have guys like Lais, they
24:52
Speaker 1: have enough veterans on that team. If they know what
24:55
Speaker 1: has to be done, they know how they want to play.
24:58
Speaker 1: That's also important late in the sea. And I think
25:01
Speaker 1: this game very similar to the Titans game last week
25:03
Speaker 1: from the Jaguars perspective. The Titans knew in that game
25:07
Speaker 1: that if they kept running Derrick Henry that eventually it
25:11
Speaker 1: was gonna break, meaning they were going to eventually get
25:14
Speaker 1: success in that because the Jaguars didn't have the stamina
25:16
Speaker 1: to hold up. They knew doing that that the Jaguars
25:19
Speaker 1: were not going to be a team that could get
25:21
Speaker 1: way ahead of him on offense. They didn't fear the
25:23
Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive play that way. Well that's the way the
25:26
Speaker 1: Ravens play anyway. So uh, I don't want to call
25:30
Speaker 1: it the toughest matchup because I'd be disingenuous. I thought
25:32
Speaker 1: Steelers were tough. Green Bay is tough. This is right
25:36
Speaker 1: up there with the tough matchup second half the season.
25:39
Speaker 1: They need breaks early, the Jaguars did. They need turnovers early,
25:42
Speaker 1: some stops you don't expect and get it and somehow
25:45
Speaker 1: get a lead to make them somehow get out of
25:48
Speaker 1: the Ravens game. Yeah, I mean, I think it was
25:53
Speaker 1: an impressive wine. No, No, I think I think it
25:58
Speaker 1: has to be one of those where the jack has
26:00
Speaker 1: played at a level early where they can put him
26:01
Speaker 1: in a hole. If you can put them in a
26:03
Speaker 1: hold and make Lamar Jackson have to operate as a passer,
26:06
Speaker 1: that is your best bet. Otherwise, if you had to
26:08
Speaker 1: play him, even Stephen head up, I don't know if
26:10
Speaker 1: the physicality and toughness exists enough from us to be
26:14
Speaker 1: able to get that done. So um Jags Braven's coming
26:20
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26:31
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Speaker 1: On a Wednesday af ternoon. The Jaguars headed to Baltimore
29:01
Speaker 1: to face the Ravens this Sunday and Week fifteen j
29:04
Speaker 1: V Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osier. The Jaguars this year,
29:10
Speaker 1: by the way, guys have seventy nine players that have played.
29:13
Speaker 1: That is the most in the National Football League. That
29:16
Speaker 1: means just played on the field this year. It is
29:19
Speaker 1: the most enfranchise history since too Now and it's the
29:26
Speaker 1: second most in that time frame in league history. The
29:29
Speaker 1: Dolphins had eighty four players play in the nineteen season
29:35
Speaker 1: last year. So with an addition this week, if they
29:39
Speaker 1: have a guy or two come up and play for
29:41
Speaker 1: the first time, they'll just keep adding to that total.
29:43
Speaker 1: But seventy nine players have played, and that makes head
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Speaker 1: equipment manager Jimmy Luck a busy man. And he joins
29:50
Speaker 1: us now from t I A a bank field. Jimmy,
29:54
Speaker 1: what's up, man, that's a lot of players rolling through. Yeah,
29:58
Speaker 1: it's uh, definitely, you know, with all the different uh
30:03
Speaker 1: COVID list and i R return and things like that. Yeah,
30:06
Speaker 1: we've got a lot more players around UM than we
30:09
Speaker 1: normally have. I think you said seventy nine have played,
30:12
Speaker 1: but I think we actually have like eighty five maybe
30:14
Speaker 1: on our roster counting i R. That's a that's a
30:19
Speaker 1: lot and that that also kind of runs into you know,
30:24
Speaker 1: there's only a limited amount of jersey numbers right for
30:27
Speaker 1: these guys. Quentin Meeks rolled out there on Sunday wearing
30:30
Speaker 1: number five at cornerback, and there are league rules about
30:34
Speaker 1: what numbers can be used at certain positions. Why was
30:38
Speaker 1: Meeks able to run out there with the number five
30:40
Speaker 1: as a corner Well again going back to all that
30:44
Speaker 1: what we just talked about with all the different lists
30:46
Speaker 1: and and things. UM, So, the league has given some
30:51
Speaker 1: exemptions this year because we've kind of been hit kind
30:54
Speaker 1: of hard with injuries at the cornerbacks dB position and
30:59
Speaker 1: you've actually just run out of numbers. UM so we
31:02
Speaker 1: had some single digits you have to UM basically asked
31:05
Speaker 1: the league permission to get an exemption, and uh, I
31:09
Speaker 1: kind of thought we would run to this problem earlier,
31:11
Speaker 1: but we've been you know, lucky enough not to, and
31:13
Speaker 1: then we finally caught up with us this week here
31:15
Speaker 1: and uh, just that was kind of what I had open.
31:18
Speaker 1: And you know, I hate it, you know, but it
31:21
Speaker 1: kind of looks like an option quarterback out there. Um.
31:24
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's very athletic, and you know, so
31:27
Speaker 1: it kind of looks funny. Um, but it happens in
31:31
Speaker 1: the preseason occasionally. Um. The one thing that's different about
31:35
Speaker 1: the rule now is in the preseason you can have
31:37
Speaker 1: double numbers, having two guys wearing a number. But I
31:40
Speaker 1: guess for like film and some of that other stuff,
31:43
Speaker 1: they're not letting us have it, uh now during the season,
31:47
Speaker 1: so so you'll get maybe anomaly like that. I think
31:50
Speaker 1: there's a few other teams that that have are close
31:52
Speaker 1: to doing it, if they haven't already Bucky. Of course,
31:57
Speaker 1: that's when we see in college all the time where
31:58
Speaker 1: you got single digit defensive lineman and you know, the
32:02
Speaker 1: rules just just roll them out there. I mean, I
32:06
Speaker 1: do like it. I like I like the single digits.
32:08
Speaker 1: I think it does give it a little bit of
32:09
Speaker 1: a college tent. Did the coaches complain when when it
32:13
Speaker 1: comes down to that, when you see guys in single
32:15
Speaker 1: digits or do they they're just trying to keep guys
32:17
Speaker 1: on the field. I wanted I couldn't hear that, Bucky.
32:23
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was me or if that
32:25
Speaker 1: was you there. Uh So I like like, yeah, the question, Yeah,
32:31
Speaker 1: the question Jimmy was, Uh, does do the coaches worry
32:36
Speaker 1: about all the Jersey number changes? They just worried about
32:38
Speaker 1: getting players eleven guys on the field at one time. No,
32:44
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't care what what number of people are,
32:47
Speaker 1: how they look, you know, any of that. They just
32:48
Speaker 1: want them out there now. Obviously my job is to
32:51
Speaker 1: make sure that they look good and all that stuff,
32:53
Speaker 1: and you know, you wanted to look normal and you know,
32:57
Speaker 1: but like I said, it's it's and that's kind of
33:00
Speaker 1: how everything is gone this year. Unfortunately done there. There's
33:05
Speaker 1: a bit of a weather situation in Boltimore right now,
33:09
Speaker 1: freezing rain, snow, but it should be cleared up up there, John,
33:14
Speaker 1: so that this time of year up in that area
33:16
Speaker 1: it can be an issue. But John, it feels like
33:18
Speaker 1: it's going to clear out at least by Sunday. So
33:20
Speaker 1: that's good news for Jimmy. It would be awesome for me, rain, snow, whatever,
33:26
Speaker 1: Jim Yeah, that's even if I was going to be
33:34
Speaker 1: in the press box, so that would still be fine. Hey,
33:38
Speaker 1: I had one question for Jenny. If if it got
33:41
Speaker 1: down to the point that you're out of numbers, would
33:45
Speaker 1: they make you use a quote retired number like eight
33:49
Speaker 1: two or seventy one, preferbably seventy one, because I want
33:52
Speaker 1: to see somebody take the Sally's place. Um No, I
33:56
Speaker 1: don't think we would do that. We would just probably
33:58
Speaker 1: have to take a number from an I R. Guy. Um,
34:02
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's hurt and not coming back this year. Um.
34:06
Speaker 1: But you know, you you run into things like that
34:08
Speaker 1: now where like C. J. Henderson, I'm not gonna take
34:11
Speaker 1: his number. He's gonna be here. He's the first round pick,
34:14
Speaker 1: you know. So we can't really do some of that.
34:15
Speaker 1: So you kind of get stuck in some of that
34:17
Speaker 1: where you have to go down and and and do that.
34:20
Speaker 1: So but yeah, it would be uh, it might be
34:23
Speaker 1: fun to see seventy one running around out there by
34:29
Speaker 1: the way right to see him in forever. So I'd
34:33
Speaker 1: like to just see him for the record though, Yeah, yeah,
34:40
Speaker 1: you're good. Okay, So for the record, though, the Jaguars
34:45
Speaker 1: do not have any officially retired jerseys, right, Jimmy. But
34:49
Speaker 1: there are certain numbers that are keep out of circulation,
34:53
Speaker 1: let's say, yeah, like pretty much like if your numbers
34:57
Speaker 1: on the stadium in there, I'm not giving that numb.
35:00
Speaker 1: We're out. Um, you're gonna have to beat it out
35:02
Speaker 1: of me. But there's a few others that you know,
35:04
Speaker 1: I try not to issue um. And for the most part,
35:07
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to do that with a couple here
35:09
Speaker 1: and there. But we run into a situation like we
35:12
Speaker 1: are now. Yeah, it gets pretty tight, but I can
35:15
Speaker 1: as I'm here, you won't see seventy one out there
35:19
Speaker 1: or um eight, you know, so eighty two about thirty two? Mojo? Uh,
35:29
Speaker 1: we've got a practice squad guy in it right now. Um.
35:33
Speaker 1: And that was one of those things where we had
35:35
Speaker 1: to do it. It was I didn't want to, but
35:39
Speaker 1: we did. Um. Also, there's not a not a fifty
35:42
Speaker 1: one or sixty three, so I kinda told us for
35:46
Speaker 1: those guys as well. It's a puzz Lesnie and mister
35:50
Speaker 1: the last two to wear those and and Bucky make
35:52
Speaker 1: sure Mojo here's about that. Please would be great. Tell
35:59
Speaker 1: them did I think twenty two should actually be the
36:03
Speaker 1: one and already. You know, so Bucky saw this, Jimmy
36:10
Speaker 1: that twenty two should be the number that's out of circulation.
36:13
Speaker 1: That's his old number. But I'll make it. I didn't, honestly, Blacky,
36:18
Speaker 1: I apologize. I didn't know that, So I will. I'll
36:21
Speaker 1: work on Matt this offseason. Jimmy, Let's get to the
36:25
Speaker 1: business of Sunday. What will the Jaguars wear in Baltimore
36:30
Speaker 1: this week at M and T Bank Stadium in week fifteen?
36:34
Speaker 1: All right, besides probably some thermals underneath, we will wear um,
36:41
Speaker 1: the white jerseys because we're on the road. You got
36:44
Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley there, my god. And then we'll go with
36:48
Speaker 1: black pants, very nice white over black for the Jaguars
36:55
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. And yes, bring out the thermals. The high
36:59
Speaker 1: is about five degrees on Sunday, Jimmy, so you're gonna
37:03
Speaker 1: have to pack heavy. It sounds like, well, it's Florida, guys. Yeah,
37:06
Speaker 1: that's pretty chilly for us. That's really chilly right now?
37:12
Speaker 1: Is chilly for us outside? Great stuff. Jimmy has always
37:15
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll talk to you again next week, all right,
37:19
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks, guys, Jimmy, look out of here to go,
37:23
Speaker 1: retire the number twenty two, Jersey Real Quick, We're back
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Speaker 1: But more on how you can play and you can win.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osier. The Jags have
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Speaker 1: dropped twelve in a row. It is time now to
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Speaker 1: play Big Game Jaguar. We will pick a Jaguar to
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Speaker 1: have a big game against the Ravens this Sunday. John Osan,
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Speaker 1: why don't you start us off this week? Since you're
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Speaker 1: pumping your fist, I'm winging it again. Buck all in,
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Speaker 1: I'm all in on the stash. It's back minshe Man,
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Speaker 1: Big Game Jaguar. I don't know if he's ever gonna
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Speaker 1: have another big game again, but this one is it.
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Speaker 1: Somehow he's gonna get outside the pocket, off schedule stuff.
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Speaker 1: DJ Chark, Big Game. This is a hail Mary Buck.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe it or not. It's
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Speaker 1: the one shot Big Game Jaguar, The Stash Gardner Minshi
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Speaker 1: the second not the third, not his son the second.
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Speaker 1: Want a picky why not? He just saw Baker Mayfield
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Speaker 1: throw for a million yards against the Ravens. They play
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Speaker 1: similar styles. Maybe just maybe Garden Miss you can come
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Speaker 1: up with one. I'm gonna going to defense of the ball,
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Speaker 1: and I'm to say Joe Schobert has to have a
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Speaker 1: big game because it is all about the Ravens running attack.
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Speaker 1: Is about finding a way to slow down the mar
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Speaker 1: Jackson and company. He is going to have to play
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Speaker 1: a big role, a big part in slowing down his
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Speaker 1: run game. They see if you can flow those gaps
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Speaker 1: and makes me add the line of scrimmage. You can't
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Speaker 1: have the Mark Jackson get loose on the second level.
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna stick with you on the defensive side there, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: and go with Miles Jacks, Jaguars linebacker. He's a guy
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Speaker 1: that can flash and make a big play and get
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Speaker 1: a takeaway, a forced fumble, something like that. He always
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Speaker 1: are not well a lot of times in his career
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Speaker 1: has had some big moments like that. We know, of
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Speaker 1: course he can. Here's a handful of those this week.
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Speaker 1: So I'm going with Miles jack to have a big
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Speaker 1: game as part of that linebacker group alongside Joe Schobert.
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Speaker 1: But there we haven't the big game Jaguars are in
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Speaker 1: for this week. I've got Miles, Bucky has Schobert, and
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Speaker 1: John Osier is going with Gardner Minshew the second. All in,
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Speaker 1: all in all in, the Jags trying to snap a
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Speaker 1: twelve games skid and it's tough obviously, and then next
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Speaker 1: week the Bears come to town and then they finish
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Speaker 1: up with the Colts. So the stretch run here, John
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Speaker 1: is upon us now three games to play in what
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Speaker 1: has been an awfully disappointing season. Yeah, I mean it's
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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, I've been impressed for the most
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Speaker 1: part until last week with how they played after the bye,
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Speaker 1: toughest part of their schedule. These guys fought, They gave
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Speaker 1: himselves a chance. I don't sinse that will happen on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: I think the desperation and matchup is too tough for Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: But uh, last two weeks, we'll see. What do you think, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: what's your gut? Well, my gut tells me that the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore understand that they can't they have to win out
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Speaker 1: and so they're gonna bring a level of urgency that
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Speaker 1: is typical of a playoff team. And so for the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: it's not only meeting that urgency, is meeting that physicality.
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Speaker 1: For the Jacks to win, Garda Minshew is going to
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Speaker 1: have to play out of his mind. He's just going
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Speaker 1: to have to have one of those games that we
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Speaker 1: talked about ten, fifteen, twenty years from now. He is
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Speaker 1: going to have to put on a remarkable performance. Maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe you can dig into bag and put it out
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Speaker 1: a little magic, but we're gonna have to see, because
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Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna take. It's gonna take a herculean
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Speaker 1: effort from him. We'll see what happens this Sunday. Well done, guys,
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Speaker 1: great show. Thanks to everybody back in the studio, Joe Fortunado,
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Speaker 1: Brent Raber for Bucky Brooks and John Oser. I'm j P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Ravens coming up Sunday and we'll
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