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The NBA Season Will Be Here Soon! (PST Episode 633) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: years strong. We've got a great show for you this week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren. Here are my buddy Len Hunsicker, Buddy Man.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: How you doing doing?
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  Speaker 2: Just wonderful?
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: How are you all right?
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  Speaker 1: Is September tenth, twenty twenty five that we are recording.
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  Speaker 1: This a very bizarre day in a lot of ways,
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  Speaker 1: politically in this country and in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the sports world. We're gonna be diving into some Phillies talk.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say that right off the bat, Len, because that's
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  Speaker 1: what we are, a sports podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We are a sports podcast first and.
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  Speaker 2: Foremost, and we should talk about the Phillies because they're
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  Speaker 2: absolutely rolling right now.
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  Speaker 3: They're rolling, and we're going to dive into them for sure.
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  Speaker 1: We got some Eagles talk on the way, Jalen Carter's
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  Speaker 1: going to be playing, Howie Roseman made another trade, going
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  Speaker 1: to get into some storylines before the Week two game
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  Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs. We're also going to dive
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  Speaker 1: into the Philadelphia Union. I haven't talked about them too much,
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  Speaker 1: but Philadelphia Union are on a roll right now as well.
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  Speaker 1: There's good things happening in the world of Philly sports.
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  Speaker 1: The NBA season is upon us and it's been a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting offseason, a lot of interesting offseason storylines, and
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  Speaker 1: the one Len and I are going to be diving
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  Speaker 1: into is the Kawhi Leonard and La Clippers fiasco with
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  Speaker 1: regard to circumventing the salary cap. And then what we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be throwing down on the table. We've got our
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  Speaker 1: good friend Quab from the Dime with Josh and Quab podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna jump on to dive into some more NBA
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  Speaker 1: off season storylines that we're keeping our eyes on here.
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  Speaker 1: So len, uh, let's start talking about this Philadelphia Phillies
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  Speaker 1: team right off the bat, like we're we're getting into it.
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  Speaker 1: I know, usually we do like an intro where we
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  Speaker 1: get into some personal stuff and everything. But man, the
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  Speaker 1: biggest story this past week in the world of Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports and in the sports world in general, was the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies Karen who took the kids ball away. We're getting
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  Speaker 1: to the point where some are saying that the Phillies
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  Speaker 1: Karen and if you're I know, you're really not on
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  Speaker 1: social media anymore, but the memes out there have been hilarious,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that some are saying that she's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the easiest and best Halloween cost doom this season.
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  Speaker 1: I've actually seen some of the there's some great memes
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, spirits to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So then nothing ceases to amaze me anymore in society.
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  Speaker 1: You know again, we're recording this on Wednesday, September tenth.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in the world, lock going
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  Speaker 1: on in the United States, in this country, and Philly's
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  Speaker 1: Karen this past week didn't cease to amaze me. The
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  Speaker 1: poor guy and his kids and absolutely scared with this
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  Speaker 1: woman coming right up to him demanding that ball.
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  Speaker 3: That home, Bren, that's my ball. You took by ball?
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  Speaker 4: What I saw.
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  Speaker 2: You could take your kid to any concession stand or
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  Speaker 2: or merchandise stand and just get them something to make
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  Speaker 2: them completely happy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yes.
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  Speaker 2: You can. You can readdirect a kid's focus. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: not that hard, It really isn't. So yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand what's happened in there with Philly's Karen
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  Speaker 2: where my wife said she saw something today where they
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  Speaker 2: called her Cruella to Phil, Yes to Phil, is the
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  Speaker 2: new name. Yeah, which is which is pretty awesome too.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta say I do like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I nothing surprises me with people anymore. Seriously, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're you're diving for a home run ball like
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  Speaker 1: is done all the time in sports and or baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I should say.
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  Speaker 1: It's done all the time. And you know what, if
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  Speaker 1: you get the ball, fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't, it stinks.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's the it's what happens in a baseball game.
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  Speaker 1: And for this woman to get so incensed to just
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  Speaker 1: go up to this guy, take him by his shoulder
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  Speaker 1: seriously and just start yelling at him, like pointing and
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  Speaker 1: yelling at him that was my ball.
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  Speaker 3: Holy if this.
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  Speaker 2: Dude like knocked her over or knocked her kid over
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  Speaker 2: right by all means fair, absolute game, you know, go
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  Speaker 2: get him. But yeah, like for a ball. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: just a dumb.
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  Speaker 1: It really And I know we're smiling, we're laughing about it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just it's a reflection of so much that
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  Speaker 1: goes on with with self centered, horrendous people that are
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  Speaker 1: out there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we hate yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 3: Look at stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot to put the banner up here for God's sake,
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  Speaker 1: I finally put the banner up here for everybody. She's
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  Speaker 1: one of the most hateable individuals in the sports world. Like,
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  Speaker 1: can you can you imagine that though you just don't
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  Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen to your life based on a
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  Speaker 1: split second decision, the fact that you know what you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna go to a baseball game, you know
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  Speaker 1: whether you're there with your friends or your family, and
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  Speaker 1: you get so emotionally upset about something that happens, you
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  Speaker 1: make a decision that's not the best decision, and your
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  Speaker 1: life actually changes forever because you're made into memes. You
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  Speaker 1: are just thrown throughout the Internet for everybody to see
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  Speaker 1: and for everybody to hate on you. People wanting to
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  Speaker 1: get you five from your job, people just wanting to
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  Speaker 1: find out who you are so they can harass you.
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  Speaker 2: That's our Yeah, Like if this happens in nineteen eighty six, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean nothing, maybe it gets on Sports Center and
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  Speaker 2: then maybe you know, for like a ten second clip
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  Speaker 2: and then nobody ever thinks about it ever again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but now we have this thing where people can just
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  Speaker 2: do their you know, do investigations into people. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to find out who this person is. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to find out where they work, where they live, and
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  Speaker 2: it just and I'm not you know, she's an idiot,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, I don't I'm not defending her by
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  Speaker 2: any stretch, but it's just like, man, you really like
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  Speaker 2: can't do anything anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You can't. There are cameras everywhere in folks. Yeah, realize that, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has one. Everybody has one on them at all times.
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  Speaker 1: And they're up in the sky too sometimes or on
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  Speaker 1: buildings or wherever.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, Like I'm like, how are people still out
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  Speaker 2: there committing crimes? Yeah, their cameras everywhere? Like where where
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  Speaker 2: do you like, where do you think you're going to
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  Speaker 2: commit a crime And it's not going to be yeah somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it either. And you know what I
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: another thing that I don't get at times is we're
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  Speaker 1: moving along here is how some people have hated the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies during the course.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've all had our moments. I
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: think that series in New York, yes, I think we
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: were all kind of on edge.
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  Speaker 1: But this Met series fantastic. I mean the Phillies are
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: closing our season strong when they have now won, yes,
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  Speaker 1: seven straight series. They've won seven straight series. They are
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  Speaker 1: hot right now. I love where they are at here
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  Speaker 1: in September heading into what is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: fun postseason. I think they're in a very different spot
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  Speaker 1: this year than they were last year. Last year that
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  Speaker 1: they were they were putting around and it was like
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  Speaker 1: it was like the car just you know, getting up
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  Speaker 1: to the gas station and it's kind of putt putt,
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  Speaker 1: putton because it's losing gas. That's how the Phillies were
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  Speaker 1: last September. If you remember, they didn't seem strong. They
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  Speaker 1: just seemed like they were kind of just floating. This
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  Speaker 1: is a strong team heading into this October postseason, and
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  Speaker 1: I it is really good to see because we were
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  Speaker 1: getting concerned there for a while. Yes, yeah, yes, ups
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  Speaker 1: and downs, but I am I am feeling very confident
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  Speaker 1: at this point.
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  Speaker 2: What are you thinking? Yeah, I mean ten and three
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  Speaker 2: in their last thirteen games, and you know, you you lose,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the thing. It's like, you know, you lose
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  Speaker 2: your your best pitcher in Zach Wheeler. Yep, now you've
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  Speaker 2: lost Trey Turner. Until it looks like he's going to
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: be out until the beginning of the playoffs. Alec Bowm
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  Speaker 2: is on the IL for you know, probably sure than that,
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  Speaker 2: but still that's another bat that's out of your lineup.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, they've they've been carried. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like every time I watch a Phillies game, Harrison
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  Speaker 2: Bader's get and two hits. Brandon Marsh has been hot
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: as hell recently, Scott has been hitting over three hundred
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  Speaker 2: since the All Star break. And guys that you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were like, oh god, these are these guys aren't
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  Speaker 2: regulars on a championship level team. Yeah, they're They're coming
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  Speaker 2: through for this team big time right now. And then
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: on the pitching side, Sanchez has been Sanchez all year long,
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  Speaker 2: and Suarez, I think his last four starts like four
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  Speaker 2: and oh zero point eighty eight e r A. I
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  Speaker 2: think that was coming to last night's game and he
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: you know, he pitched great last night. So I mean,
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: just they're they're firing on all cylinders right now. You
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  Speaker 2: just hope that they can carry this momentum into the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs and not like.
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  Speaker 4: Not like that.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're peaking now and then they're going to come
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  Speaker 2: down during the playoffs. But I mean they've beaten some
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  Speaker 2: good teams. They if they can beat the Mets tomorrow night,
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  Speaker 2: they sweep them. I mean they took two out of
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: three from the Brewers, the best team in the NL
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  Speaker 2: right now record wise, in Milwaukee. So I mean there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot to be said for the way they're playing
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  Speaker 2: right now. It's absolutely been wonderful to see and I
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: think I want to recognize to it. I mentioned this
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: to our good friend Justin Klue from a Baseball Prospectus
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: and the Hitting Season podcast. You know, we love having
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Justin on, but I think it was that conversation where
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, I think we need to at
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: times give Dave Dombrowski some credit when it is due,
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: and I think it's absolutely due in terms of his
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: movie made before the trade deadline.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: In terms of Harrison Bader, yeah, we looked last year like, look,
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: the Austin Hayes experiment did not work last year. It
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: just it sucked.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: It didn't.
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  Speaker 1: But the Harrison Bader trade has worked out so well
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: for this team. And in terms of outfield platoons, we're
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: talking about a team with metrics that are within like
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: the top six of the National League from I read
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: a tweet earlier today, different metrics the Phillies outfield platoon.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: It's working, and it's been working because of Harrison Bader
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: being there. And I think we got to give Dave
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Dombrowski some credit and for him being able to keep
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: this team an organization, give the challenges, the injuries. You
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: were just talking about keeping this team relevant and where
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: they're not dipping so much based on these challenges.
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  Speaker 2: We got to give him credit. Yeah, and give him
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: credit and give Batter credit. I mean, this guy has
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: so far exceeded my expectations since when they brought him in,
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: because he was always a guy who was like, Okay,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: great glove and center field, not going to get much
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  Speaker 2: out of him with the bat. Like I said, I
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: feel like every time I watch a Phillies game, he's
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: getting two or three hits. Did it again tonight? So
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: you know it just he's and he seems like a
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: guy that, like, okay, turners out for the foreseeable. You
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: can plug him in the top of your lineup and
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: he's getting walks, he's getting on base, he's he's doing
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: what you need him to do. Yeah, all while playing
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: you know, a strong center field as as was his
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: calling card. So I mean, man, you want to talk
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: about a move that has turned out, Uh, that's Harrison
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Vader's a definition of that right now.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And look, before we get into some Eagles talk here, Lynn,
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: I would be remissed if I did not mention some
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: of the entertainment that's been going on in the Phillies clubhouse.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: When you have guys farting and Aaron Nola's cracking up
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: during interviews. I mean, the entertainment that's being provided is
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: really incredible. And I say this is for some who
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: I know hate farts, you hate for art.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: For some maybe, I mean to me, it's just it's
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: just a lack of class.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: What do you call people who fart animals? I believe
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: you've called them in the past.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, So it's everybody who's listening to this podcast right now,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: but not I have heard.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: You far before, though, I really have.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I promise I'm not going to say the situation, but
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I have heard you beef, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: All right, We're are gonna move on to some Eagles talk. Now.
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  Speaker 1: What a start to the season when your all star
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: defensive player gets ejected for spitting on somebody. But as
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: we know, the news came out today that Jalen Carter
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: was fined fined for a game fifty seven, two hundred
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: and twenty two dollars. Interesting figure there, but he was
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: fined and he's not going to miss any playing time.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: NFL saying that the game he missed, yes, it's time served.
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  Speaker 1: So I I really think that his lack of presence
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: being out there contributed to part of what we saw
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  Speaker 1: in the defense, whether it was you know, rust in
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: a way that I talked about, or just his presence,
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: like putting so much more pressure on Jordan Davis, because
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis almost played one hundred percent of the snaps
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: at that point when he never has before. In fact,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio said if he didn't lose the weight that
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: he lost during the offseason, he wouldn't have been able
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: to do what he did during Week one. So Jordan
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Davis really was a savior. But we gotta have Jalen
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: carr her out there for a lot of different reasons,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: not just run stoppage and trying to rush the passer,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: but also how it helps the secondary. And we're gonna
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: get into some secondary talking a bit here, but.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Small detail of him being literally your best defensive.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Your best defensive player, exactly that that old thing. Yes, so,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, let's not spit on anybody in front of
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: a referee anymore, dude, I was.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: So pissed off at that. I was so pissed off.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My wife was watching the game with me, and
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty laid back in general. Yeah, she saw. I
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: saw her eyes get big at a couple of points.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I think. I don't know if we're gonna have to
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: bleep this out or whatever.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: No, we don't know.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, good because I may have said the words you
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: stupid motherfucker probably about five times within a twenty second span. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, paw,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: how do you do that?
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't know if seriously, you try to
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: get in the brain of people sometimes when they're making
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: decisions in the moment.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, was there so much like.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Why not, like why not just say okay, you know, okay,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Dak spit in your general direction, and he shouldn't have
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: been near their huddle in the first place. Absolutely, he's
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: maybe trying to intimidate or whatever, So like, okay, he
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: spitching in your direction. Okay, fine, I'm gonna do everything
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I can to break this fucking guy's leg during Again,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I won't spit on him, but I am going to
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: destroy this guy at some point in this game.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly. I'm gonna bust those secking ribs.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: That's how you do it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Well, thankfully we're going to see him on the field
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs this coming Sunday.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: It's going to be the Chief's home opener.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about the game, to be honest,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: just because I mean, it's on the road against the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Chiefs in their house, Arrowhead Stadium.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Tough place to play.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Then again, the Eagles are defending Super Bowl champions and
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: jayl and Carter is going to be out there. But
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I have to say, in the first game of the season,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams were like this too. Even the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Chiefs were themselves looking like they were trying to get
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the rust off on both offense and defense.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious. I know Kelsey ran into Worthy
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and knocked him out of the game. Yeah, I don't
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: know if Worthy is Is he playing.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: In this I don't think he's going to be playing.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's kind of because they don't have him. They
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: still don't have Rashid Rice, right right, Yeah, So there's
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: your top two receivers right there against a team, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: against an Eagles team who were kind of starting to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: feel a little iffy on the secondary. Well, I mean, great,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: segue could be a huge help.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: So absolutely, Look, Dori Jackson appears that he's going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: be starting this Sunday in Kansas City, pervict Fangio.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Then again, Fangio wasn't the.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Most confident in his press conference this week talking about Jackson.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: But I think we're going to see a Dori jacks
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And again, and it's just I'm baffled by I'm baffled
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: len by this cornerback two position. When re signing Isaiah
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Rodgers was the right move to make, and a lot
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of us knew it at the time, and we've all
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: kind of been just waiting for this shoot a drop
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of the awfulness of what we saw at the cornerback
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: two position. There's something needs to be done, as something
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: needs to be done outside of just okay, we're going
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to hope that a Dori Jackson, who's a veteran in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this league is going to somehow quote get it. I'm concerned.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: We've talked about it how many times on the show.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Now it's we're seeing it right out of the gate.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean if a Dori Jackson is your starter,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that is clearly by default. I mean that's because you
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: don't have anybody else to put in that role. So yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, they're gonna have to figure out something.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Where is Slade? Did he retire or is he on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: another team?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: No, he is with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh they released him.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Remember they released him to get get some salary cap space.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And okay, yeah, I didn't know if he was just
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: retired and they could say, hey, nah, nah, what do
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you think? Okay with the steel I didn't know where
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: he ended up.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I I found interesting also this past week,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you know, it was it was just yesterday actually when
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I got a notification on my phone that said the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Eagles have now traded for Tank Bigsby running back with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, And I'm like, what the hell is
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: going on here with this? But yes, we know he's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: been a very very very serviceable running back for Jacksonville
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and as well as a kick returner punt returner as well.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: He's a return guy. Give up a fifth round pick,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: sixth round pick for him? I I kind of I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: kind of like, I'm kind of like, meh with this
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: pick or with this transaction and with this trade.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Is that how you're feeling at this point?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna lie. I kind of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like will Shipley me too. I don't really. I mean,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: if he's your backup, I mean I like what I've
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: seen out of him. I mean, maybe it's more of
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a kick return, punt return thing, and maybe that's why
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: they brought Biggs b in. And if that's the case,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: then okay. I mean if he's if he's better at
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: it than anybody they have, then you know, I'm fine
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: with that. I just felt like an ad they didn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: necessarily need to make. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It seemed odd to me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I looked at it like I initially thought, I'm like, man,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: why did they give up two picks? And then I'm
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Okay, they have a ton of picks
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: next year, you know they have.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can afford to do that. I just my
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: first thought was like, oh my god, what's wrong with Saquan?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Why are they trading for another running back? Exactly? That
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was my my Did I miss something?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Yeah, aside from thinking what I just mentioned,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like it, I think that's a lot for a backup
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: at a non premium position who really doesn't catch passes,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you know, especially considering how much Philly already has invested
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: at the running back position with Saquon Barkley.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: So it was kind of kind of bizarre. But we know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: we know that how.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He likes to take on these type of trades when
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he finds value for the team if the team can
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: get better. I don't know how much better the team is.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: If I had to give this trade a grade, I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: would probably give it a C C plus somewhere around there?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Are you thinking the same?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I don't know just yet, but
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If you're going to make a trade,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: maybe trade for a corner, I don't know, Maybe focus
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: your efforts there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: That really would be nice, right yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe a position to need who knows.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: He's smart, if you really smart?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Right, well, folks, we're gonna take a break before we
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: get into some Philadelphia Union talk. Then we're gonna dive
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: into some NBA off season talk. But before we do that, folks,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we want to let you know where you can find
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: us on the social media platforms out there. We are
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: on except for Len Lens, like, forget this, forget social media, but.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Leave social media. It will make your lives so much better.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, have you have? Has it been like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a stress reliever for you just being off as many.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Months as Yeah? I dude, I love it. I love
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: not being on Twitter anymore. It's it's yeah, I thought
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: about the blue Sky thing, but I was like, yeah, no, yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're it's.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: It's so so much better.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I love how you've been committed to it. Seriously, I
• 21:59
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• 22:11
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• 22:14
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• 22:17
  Speaker 1: all right, let's take that break right now. We're gonna
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: be back in just a bit. Got a lot more
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: great stuff coming your way. All right, we are back
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and we want to dive now into the Philadelphia Union. Boy,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: what a season this team has been having. When they
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: won one to nothing over the over Cincinnati FC Cincinnati
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: recently about I think it was like about a week
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: ago or so, if I'm not mistaken, but they they're
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: on top of the shield race at this point and
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: quite frankly, they are going to be And I want
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to get I want to bring up the banner here
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: just so we can say that they are on a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: roll here the U the Open. They're gonna be in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the semifinals as well, ye US Open Cup US Open
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Cup semifinals. They do have a long road trip coming
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: up as they're gonna be heading to Vancouver for a
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: September thirteenth match, and then they're gonna be heading to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Nashville for a September sixteenth, that US Open Cup semifinal
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: match as well. Lynn, what are your thoughts on where
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the team is at right now? Again, we've talked about him,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you know, more than a few times during the course
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: of this season. It's been a surprising season for the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Union given brand new coach. Just you know, some of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the depth has really stepped up on this team, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Kai Wagner, of course, you know, you got,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you got. You gotta credit him for the type of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: season he's been having. What are your thoughts on where
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the team's at right now.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to complain with being first over
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: all in the league. Yeah, I mean in the quartershield standings. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: it would be great to get another one of those,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: get another uh trophy in the case. You know, it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it's it's cool and that you know, with with with soccer,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it's not just like you know, I feel like in
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: baseball or any of the other sports, like, well, if
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't win the whole thing, nothing else matters. I mean,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you can win these other trophies along the way, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and that that means something that matters. So that's awesome
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and it's something for them to keep playing for. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: they're one point ahead of San Diego for the Supporter
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Shield right now, a San Diego team who they're an
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: expansion team. So the fact that they are the best
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: team in the West right now is you know, pretty shocking.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: They have an expansion team doing that well and and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: kind of challenging the Union for that that first overall spot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: The fact that they were able to get a win
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: against Cincinnati now is huge given the Cincinnati second in
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the East, so you're you're beating your next closest rival.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And then they'll go up against a Nashville team that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you know is always relatively tough and in this US
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Open Cup. So we'll see how they go. But I'm
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: actually glad that you mentioned the depth with this team
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: because it does it feels like, you know, we're in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: one of these portions of the season where guys on
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the team are going away because of you know, maybe
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a commitment to, you know, a national team. I know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Nathan Harrill has has been doing stuff with the US
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: men's national team. Different guys maybe going off to you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: commitments with national teams. So but that's happened all around
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the league. But it just feels like in years past
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: with the Union, once that happened, they would kind of
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: you know, stake a nose dive a little bit because
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they just didn't have the depth. And it feels like
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: now they do, and it just feels like, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: certain guys on the team have been really I mean,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I love what I've been seeing, you know, from a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: few guys on this team. Makanya I think has done
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: well on the defensive end. Milan Alasky. I like what
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I've been seeing out of him. I don't really didn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: really know a lot about him until recently, but in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the fewel appearances I've seen, I've liked what I've seen
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a lot. So the additions that they've made to this team, Vasilev,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Dan Le Jean Jacques, guys like that. I feel like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: they're just a stronger overall team that can absorb, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: some of the hits that you would get from from
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: guys going off to national teams.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one hit that may that may you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: hopefully not stick with this team too long. And the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: one injury concern that I have at the moment is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Andre Blake, you know, in front of the Gold. I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: mean he's been he's been back training for a couple
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of days, but his status is still very questionable for
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: this coming weekend. I mean, you lose Andre Blake, given
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: what he's done this season, there could be a there's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a concern there for sure.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I Mean he's you know, quite possibly the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: most recognizable face in the history of this franchise, so
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you know, to to not have that is kind of
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a big deal, I'll say, and I you know, I'd
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: be remiss if I didn't mention another guy that you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I think has stepped up. I think Andrew Rick has
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: played pretty well in Blake's absence. That's a guy that
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you know, last year, I would see him out there
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and it's like hmm, But you know, this year, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: think he's been a lot better. And I think, you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: he's not going to make anybody forget about Andre Blake,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: but I think he's done well for them in the interm.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Union are certainly on a roll, and we're gonna
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: be talking about them. I have a feeling a lot
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: more within the next couple of weeks here.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So that being said, well, it's kind of fun, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, we have these two teams in
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the summer that play at the same time, both doing
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: pretty well. Yeah, maybe enjoy it while you can, because
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: once the basketball and hockey teams start up might not
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: be as good. Very true, very joy it. Why you can.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Look, we don't have any flyers talk on this show
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: show this week. I mean we could, we certainly could
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: have talked some flyers, but like I don't want to like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to dive into it too too much right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Now, you know, it's it's too early. I mean, they're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: all in the rookie camps for God's sake. Yeah, so
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it's not even like the it's not even quote unquote
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: regular old training camp. Right. Yes, there's not really much
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: talking about for now.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: We could nitpick here and there with certain guys and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, but I'm like, I don't want to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's what's the point at this at this given time.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: But one of the.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Biggest stories in the sports world. As we conclude the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: first part of the show here before we get to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: our interview, Len, it's one mister Kawhi Leonard, I shouldn't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: even say it's Qui because like, honestly, I don't even
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: know if he had. You know, you put players in
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: these stories, and at the end of the day, it's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: not even necessarily the player making the decisions about what
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: has happened. So it really is the Los Angeles Clippers.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So for folks who may not know where we're going
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: with this. According to journalist Pablo Torre, some reporting that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: came out just this past week. In twenty twenty one,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Clippers owner Steve Baumer invested fifty million dollars in a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: startup company called Aspiration, and Aspiration in turn signed Kawhi
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Leonard to a twenty eight million dollar quote no show
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: endorsement deal. Kawhi Leonard would be paid even if he
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: never did anything. If he did nothing to promote the company,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that was fine. He was going to be paid, which
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: has This company has since filed for bankruptcy. Just to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: let folks know so, an unnamed Aspiration employee told Pablo
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Torre that this was actually all a scheme to skirt
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the NBA salary cap and provide Kawhi Leonard with compensation
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: beyond what was actually allocated by his standard player contract. Now,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if this all does turn out to be true, it
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: really would be the biggest and most audacious case of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: salary cap circumvention in NBA history, and probably one of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the league's largest scandals of the twenty first century. Quite frankly,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and this is an agent who has been shady in
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the past, and this is an organization that is being
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: run by one of the richest men basically in the world.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And you say to yourself, Okay, you know what's the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: punishment going to be for this for one of the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: rich people in the world whole.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And with the Timberwolves thing with Joe Smith, I mean
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: back in the day years ago.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't this isn't something new that has happened,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: but this is the culmination of many years of this
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: type of phenomenon kind of being at the underbelly and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: this just this is huge. And the the owners and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: in the NBA Board of Governors who met this past week,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do something with this because as
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: much as I think at times, NBA contracts can be
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out of control, even though I want players paid, we
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: always say that on this show.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Pay the players. I don't care, it's not our money.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: But like things could get out of control where players
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: could really end up getting screwed too, to be honest,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and it could happen. And look at what happened. Look
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: what's happening with Kawhi Leonard right now because of his agent,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: because of a shady owner of course, an organization in
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: front office. I don't know, dude, I was This situation's crazy,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it's wild.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I feel banned for Clippers fans because it's like, didn't
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we get rid of this when we got rid of
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: crazy s. Donald Sterling, Yes like that all Steam. Yes,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't he own Oracle I believe so. Yeah, which is
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: a gigantic tech company.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: The richest guys in the world.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You would think that like someone like that, I don't know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I was just about to say, you
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: would think someone like that would be above it, But
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: then again, he's a CEO. All these guys became millionaire, like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they all billionaires. Yeah, while you and everybody else that's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: watching this is struggling to make ends meet. All these
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: guys are moving their money around into different accounts to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: avoid taxes and stuff like that. It's how these guys
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: not only get rich, but stay rich by by doing shady,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: underhanded stuff like this. So, I mean, in a sense,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. Am I surprised? I guess I mean,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I don't Again, I don't blame you. We brought up
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Qui Lander's name. I don't necessarily blame him because I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: sure he's just thinking, just give me my money. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: don't care how I get it, you know, I mean,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that's your guys job to figure all that stuff out.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You give me my money and I play, and you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: we go from there. But yeah, it is that that
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: would be quite a scandal. I mean I would think,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I just youre the owners. Yeah, if you're the owners
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: in the NBA, I mean I would think that you
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: don't want any part of this just because I mean,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it just it makes all of them look bad. You're
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: just like, Okay, how are the rest of these guys
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: managing the cap? What's everybody else doing? Yeah, I'm sure
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it's not just this one guy.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, their stories are going to come out probably, so
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like what's the fallout going to be?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's I don't know.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have the answers, of course. I mean
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the board of governors, like I.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Said, and that's the thing. The investigation is still ongoing,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: so you know, it'll take weeks maybe if not months,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: for anything substantial to come out about this. I would think, yeah,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: so we'll just have to kind of stay tuned as
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: far as that. But I don't know, I guess I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: don't know. It feels like we're all surprised and maybe
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't be exactly exactly.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You know what that is such a great point. We
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: all feel like surprised. We are at a point here
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five where there is shit happened in
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the world and we should not be surprised by anything.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we are. I don't know.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just it's the human experience or something where
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: we get surprised by ridiculous, awful, terrible, horrible, whatever it is,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, shocking stuff that happens. I can't believe I'm
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: still shocked by anything, but I am, and this shocks me. Yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I know. I know we're not gonna
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: get in the sixers and we're gonna get to our
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: friend Quab very soon here from the Dime with Josh
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and Quab podcast to I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: also about his thoughts with Kawi Le.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't even say, QUI I got it's not that,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: but it is Age.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It's not him. It's not him that's shuffling money around.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: And ask him about it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: But like, as we start gearing up for this sixer season,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: when I'm just like not excited. I know we weren't
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, we didn't have it on the agenda,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but man, like, yeah, I'm so not excited.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm wearing my shirt right now, but I'm like not.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Excited, Like you know, Maxi's fun to watch and I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: want to see, you know, what happens with E. J.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Edgecomb and I want to see how, you know, McCain
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: comes back from his injury. But it's just like, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: don't know, does anybody really think that embiid Or or
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Paul George are going to play more than forty games? Yeah?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Do you really believe that? I don't. I mean so
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that that's what's making it hard, because you want to
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: talk about a team that is paper thin upfront without
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: those two. Yeah, and it's just like, okay, what happens
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: when they do their old half a season and out
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: if that?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it saddens me. Also, and again I didn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: have this on the agenda, but I'm not sure if
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you read anything about this today, but Kelly Oubre the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: fact that you know, he actually like he put this
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: post up on social and I know you're not on social,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but just how he doesn't feel the love quote love
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: from the seventy six ers fans. And this is this
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is after a report that the Sixers might be looking
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to possibly move him possibly move Andre Drummond as well.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So there's there's there's still this feeling of discord heading
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: into this season with this team, and just uncertainty of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: course with health, but just even from a team chemistry standpoint,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel like there's some some some some stink.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Around it, if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean there is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing. I mean, you know, we
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you know, people go to games and they cheer the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: team on, and that's that's cool and all, you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and they're paid very handsomely for what they do. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: feel like as long as I'm not you know, on
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: social media harassing you and actively trying to you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: be terrible to you or at games trying to do that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Outside of that, no offense, but I don't know you anything.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And that's him, and that's any of these guys. I mean,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: did you see I support the teams? I didn't see it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: This is literally the first time hearing about really this
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is why. Yeah, my initial reaction is no offense. But
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: who fucking who? Yeah?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean let me read this to you really quick. Okay,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: we're go ahead in on this.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: But Kelly Uber actually tweets out. I love Philly, but
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the love doesn't seem to be reciprocated. What happened to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this place? And for those saying I'm garbage because my
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: three percent went down, still put up numbers and I'd
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: still cook you. I played through finger surgery on my
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: left so you.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Are an NBA player and I'm a fat guy that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: almost fifty. If you can't cook me, buddy, you got problems.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I played through finger surgery on my left hand, thumb
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and pinky for three years, but still put my soul
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: in this shit. That's one thing only God can take
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: from me. Hope to see y'all soon, godspeed.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I don't have any problem with
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Kelly Ubray. I don't mind him. I think he's a
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: decent player. I don't think he's anything great, decent enough.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I have no issue with him. I mean, if you're
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: not feeling the love of you know, and not feeling
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the excitement on the team, I mean, you know, talk
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to the guys that are supposed to be the two
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: best players on the team. Those are the guys, not you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Those are the guys that are supposed to drag this
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: team to the playoffs and with the Celtics out this year,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you know, because of Tatum's injury. Yeah, maybe drag this team,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you know, further than it would would normally go under
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: normal circumstances. But you know, given the past couple of years,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: this fan base doesn't really have any reason to believe
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that that's going to happen. Nothing personal towards Kelly Oubright,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: But he's not.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He's not the cog that makes this team go, right,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and the cogs that make this team go we don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: think we're going to see much of them. So again,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: tell me why I'm supposed to be excited.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And when you see a tweet like this and read
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a tweet like this, my gosh, what is he thinking?
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to get booed like when gets
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: part of me.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Part of me wants to take him the side and go, dude,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: nobody's even thinking about you, Like nobody's like, nobody's mad
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: at you, like nobody's blaming you, right, Like, well, maybe
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: maybe about you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe he had like three people in his mentions and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: he just had a bad morning or something.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It doesn't give him any excuse to do that because
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: now he's got people hating him. You know, there's more
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: haters now.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean that's all that's going to engender.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: But you know again, maybe you shouldn't be on social media.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That's the lesson, folks, that's the lesson you need to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: take from this podcast.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe I should listen to you more, Lynn, Maybe I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: should do that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I'm really smart. Yeah, you are super smart.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Boy.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: You are a smart boy. Yeah, and I spelled boy
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: bo I.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: All right, we are going and this particular segment here
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: before we get into our interview, buddy, it was great
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: seeing you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: You got any final thoughts before let you go here?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I I do not. I think I've said all that.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I've said my pieces we cover.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, folks. We're gonna take a break.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a bit with more NBA
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: off season talk.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And now on the table.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back from our break. It was
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: great talking to Len and now we've got our good
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: friend from the Dime with Josh and Quab podcast. Love
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that podcast. I subscribe on Apple podcast. You should subscribe
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: wherever you are watching or listening to the PST podcast
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: show right now, we've got our buddy, quab Man. You
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and Josh do a great job, my friend. Thanks so
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: much for jumping on to get into some NBA off
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: season talk.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: We love this show.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Man, We love having you on all the time. Yes,
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I listened to this show because I'm I am.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I am a low key Eagles fan. I can't I
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: can't say that too loud around people.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: So birds, Yes, absolutely, look pull back the curtain a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: little bit of folks. Kuaba and I were talking about,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: you know, me possibly jumping on the dime there pop
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I would talk about to talk about the sixers, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, it's just gonna be.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna be dog crap, That's what we're gonna
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: be talking about. It's gonna be a real, real short show.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: But no, anyway, it's it's really been an interesting NBA offseason.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of different storylines to get into quab
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And and first up, look, my co host and I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Len we're just talking about the aftermath of the Kawhi
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Leonard controversy and what that, you know, may mean for
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the Clippers as well, and just the NBA overall. I mean,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: this really could be the biggest case of any salary
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: cap circumvention in the history of the NBA. Here, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: mean the NBA Board of Governors they met this past week.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: But I think it's too soon to know what's really
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be happening with the Clippers in terms of any
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, punishments really for them. Again, even
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: though this has happened before, which we're gonna get to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: in a bit here, it's I mean, this is this
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: is a pretty big story. I mean, I have a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: feeling we're gonna see some changes coming down the pike
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: since this story broke. What do you think will be
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to fall out from this particular story and situation, because
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: let's face it again, it's not anything that's new necessarily.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: The size and scope I think of it is it's
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: happened in the past, not that the size and magnitude.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: But still, quad, what are your what are your thoughts here?
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: I was actually because, like you said, it's been the
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: hot topic of this offseason, because it's kind of been.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: A quiet offseason.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was just having this conversation with my
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: friend who my friend Zach he had. He had messaged
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: me the morning the story broke. He was like, you
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: got to you gotta listen to this. And when me
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: and him were talking, like what possibly would be the
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: punishment that you could enforce? Yeah, that would make sense
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: because Steve Bamer is technically the fifth richest person in
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: the in the in the world. So finding him is like.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Chump change.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: You're like, okay, you find you can find this amount
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: of million, Okay, here you go.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Like that's say if it's fifty million, it's like, all right, whatever.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Imagine imagine just having that type of like yeah, that
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: type of money in the bank, Like okay, sure. So
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: it's like you can't take away draft picks because the
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Clippers don't have draft picks. So to me, it's still
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: on ongoing story because it feels like news is coming
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: out every single day and the main I don't want
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: to use the word but the main uh, I was
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: gonna say villain. But the main character in this it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: not even Kawhi. It's his I guess, his agent, the
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: relationship he has with the guy uncle Dennis, and that
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: has been just like the main figure that keeps popping
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: up because apparently they asked for stuff when he was
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: on the Raptors.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: He was one of the main.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Reasons Kawhi got traded from the Spurs. There's a lot
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: of stuff that's going on there and the and I
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: keep the I keep seeing more reports pop up every day.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: So I really don't know what the NBA is going
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: to do after your investigation, but you're going to have
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: to do something before season starts because you don't want
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: this lumen being the story going into a new season. Yes,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: that's a last and Adam Silba wants that's the last
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: in the NBA want state. They don't want the story
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: coming to the new season being hey, teams are cheated.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: One of the best owners, the richest owners that has
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: built a new stadium, been a positive owner all this time.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: This is this what's been going on behind the scenes,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: and this has happened before. A lot of us kind
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: of are not surprised that this happens a lot in
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: the NBA, just because of there's a lot of money involved,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of hands that so it's not that much
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: of a surprise. But it's just the numbers, the deal,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: it's just there's so many, so many questions we're all
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: just like, what is going to happen?
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: We don't I don't know. I personally don't know exactly.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It's tough to note, like you said, and like I said,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Lenn and I were talking about it too, and it's
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and again it's not the first time this has happened,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: but the size and scope of it, it cannot be
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: like not addressed. They have to, like you said, like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it has to in some way, shape or form. It
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: puts Adam Silver in a difficult situation because no, yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: even these a lot of these owners are billionaires and stuff,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: there's still different different degrees of the billionaire class and
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: how it's going to affect other guys. I just look
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Adam Silver. I'm not the biggest fan of his, being
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a six Ers fan, not a fan of Adam Silver,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: but I don't envy him with regard to this, because
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like the NBA is needing to and we're gonna get
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to this in a little bit, you know, they're they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: needing to leave their print on certain parts of the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: world and expand as well, just like every sports association
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: or league wants to do. And it's a it's a
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: really difficult situation for sure, but you know, I mean,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I guess let's get into that. You know, it's a
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: good segue into you know, just this past week. You know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: there is a situation now going on in China where
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Lebron James was actually talking to Chinese media based on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: an op ed that was written, you know about the
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: NBA general you know about the fact that the that's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: basketball isn't just a sport, but it should be a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: bridge that connects us. You know, that was the impetus
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and the message coming from that op ed. I mean, look,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the NBA certainly wants to rebuild its brand after Philadelphia
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: seventy six Ers GM Daryl Morey tweeted out support of
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a government protest in Hong Kong all the way back
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and it basically destroyed the relationship between
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the NBA and the Chinese at that time. So QWAB,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on how this story with Lebron
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and kind of you know, his engagement with this essentially
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with Chinese state media from a sheer, I guess you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: would say, you know, because we get it here on
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the podcast show, because of me and because of what
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I do outside the confines of this podcast in terms
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: of my elected position. You know, you always get the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: stick to sports, stick to sports. That angle it persists online,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: but we also know here that there's a lot of
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: great in this world, and sometimes politics and sports do
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: clash with each other. Do you have any thoughts on
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: this particular story and what it really means.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have many thoughts. I think.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: What you mentioned with when Dalmory made that sent that
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: tweet out, I remember I remember that clearly because this
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: was when my team, the Nets and the Lakers were overseas,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be playing a exhibition a couple of
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: exhibition games, and it all got it all got shut down.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: And during because of that, because that decision.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Darren Mury made, I remember that it actually affected the
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: salary cap with the NBA.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: That's how much.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: That's how much that that like just that's the simple
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: sentences he did, like affected a relationship, also affected the
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: business in the NBA. And I'm trying to I'm trying
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: to call the person's name. I'm drawing a blank. But
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: I remember somebody made a comment and said that the
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: NBA and sports in general are a marketing company, that
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: a global marketing company that like yes, we we enjoy
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: the sports aspect of it, but them's the brand and
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: the business and they really care about the business. So
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: him Lebron making this statement, it's helping the business aspect
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: of it if he's trying to rebuild the relationship between
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: the NBA and overseas like they love it like the
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: the NBA also wants to expand they want to have
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: euro League teams and all that, so they want to
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: be a bigger global brand.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: So there's that aspect of it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: But the other aspect of it is that when it
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: comes to not just the NBA, like professional athletes a
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: lot of people do we do we do this then
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: where we kind of dehumanize the players and the people
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: that are part of the game just because we just
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: we don't see them as regular people.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: We kind of eat them as.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: Like giants and gladiators in the sport, where where we
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: don't see them as like at the same time, they're
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: still there's still regular people. They have feelings, they have
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: thoughts here, they have family members, they're affected by what's
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: going on in the political climate on every day on
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: an every day basis, like.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: We we we we.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: Feel different things in terms of what's going on in
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: the news and what happens every day and how it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: affecting us, but we don't realize that it's also affected
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: them and people they care about too.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I appreciate you saying that, because even outside
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the sports world, that happens, that happens.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: So it's like every and you know how it is,
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: every day you're seeing something on the news, on the television,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: you're reading something.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Now you're just like another Like it's just it's just.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: Something every day and and the and it's it's it's,
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: it's it's it is frustrating. It is really really really
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: frustrating the times we're in right now.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Do a pre when people that have a big voice,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: have a big following, have who like the magnitude of
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: like the magnitude of reach.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: They have, or they speak on things I'm not.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: I'm not a believer of the the shut up and
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: dribble like I I don't, but I believe that if
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: people should be in the right, you should understand what
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: you're talking about, you should know what you're talking about,
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: and you should be in the right because at the
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: end of the day, this all this affects everybody. Yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: affects everybody on a daily basis, and we can't we
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: can't just be kind of have the mindset of just
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: being in the center or just trying to ignore it
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: or whatever whatever else it is because of our status,
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: because it's going to affect people you care about. So
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: I'm yeah, I'm I'm. I'm a big fan of when
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: athletes speak up against injustices and just ignorance and everything
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: that's that goes on on a daily basis.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Absolutely here here, my friend, you are talking the same
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: language as me, for sure, and even my co hosts too.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Look, I mean, as we're moving on though, you know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: one of the themes from this off season, specifically with regard
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to the NBA, and it's really interesting to watch it
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: on an annual basis, Like on an annual off season
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: basis could be you know, it's what I like to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: call the the copycat behavior from team to team to team.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: You know, change is always constant in the NBA, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: teams are already starting to try to replicate what Okay
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: see and even the Pacers were able to do this
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: past season with with speed, depth, overall team oriented type
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of play. So I'm wondering, what are your thoughts on
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: how teams really try to chase the copycat ball around
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the season, or I should say, around the off season,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: from off season to off season. You know, what are
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: your thoughts here?
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is like you said, it's a copycat league.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: It feels like teams will see something work and be like,
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: we can do that. Let's let's make those moves, right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I remember really quick. I remember when Shack.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I remember when Shaq came in the league and everyone's like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: all right, we gotta get a real big guy, gotta
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: go o big guy like like like like without like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: any thought, Okay, we gotta get a Shack like there
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: was another one in the world.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that. That reminds me of what was
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: his name, Jahidi White.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Like, oh my gosh, yeah, a.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Big lumbering sid like, oh, you're just gonna be like check.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know if that work.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: That works, but you're right, it is.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: It's it's like, even if you really think about it,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: because of I remember back in the day, even because
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: of Jordan, there were so many six six wing guards
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: and forest that were drafted, like oh when they when
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: the athletics, so when they get the shoot.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: In, we kind of have like that type of player, but.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: He doesn't work out that way, right, I think we're
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: born with a certain talent in a certain way, you
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: It's you can't you can't just put him in a
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: lab somewhere. You can't just tinker with this and that
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Okay, yeah we're gonna get
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Shack two point oh or Michael Jordan two point oh.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, does it never works out that way?
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: Like, but they their teams are teams on the upper
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: management they try. I think it is interesting to see
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: me how teams are prioritized prioritizing getting I guess more
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: more more players that are like faster two way players,
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: and right, just more skill across the board on your teams,
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: which I think a big factor is. That's because the
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: the cap and the second apron, which I still don't understand.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: I'm sure I've tried.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: I've tried to like the aprons say, but it's more
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: teams are kind of veered away from having like the
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Big three or like or like I mean the Superstar,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: having like a just a more team building aspect. So
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: it makes more sense to have like a roster full
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: of dependable players, like you saw that with like the Thunder,
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: where it had players that would come off the bench
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: and score twenty points. Even like you said, with the Pacers,
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: they had quote unquote role players that will step up
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: and right and make an impact. So more teams are
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: trying to fill out your rosters with more dependable players,
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: and I think that big factor in that has been
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: because of the cap and the aprons.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Well, folks, we are gonna take a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: quick break. We're, you know, real quick to pay some
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: bills here, but we're gonna be back with Quab in
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: just a bit to really dive into some more NBA
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: offseason talk. But before we do that, quap, where can
• 54:18
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• 54:21
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• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Let everybody know where they can find you on the
• 54:27
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• 54:28
  Speaker 5: You can find me at a quab ak yes kW
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: A b A K y es. Also a podcast with
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez is at The Dime NBA. Follow us on
• 54:40
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• 54:43
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• 54:48
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. Let's take that break right now, folks.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a bit. All right, we
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: are back here with our buddy Quab and we got
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a lot more discussion to get into about this NBA
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: off season.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about the MAVs.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I think they're an interesting team this offseason and really
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: based on extending PJ Washington with a four year, ninety
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: million dollar extension, it's gonna keep him as a key
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: piece of the MAVs front court. I'm wondering when it
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: comes to the MAVs, and I wish we could. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: wish we had time to get into like every team
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and like grade them and really dive into what they
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: could potentially do this season. We're gonna talk about the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference in a bit, but I'm wondering, what are
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this contract extension for the MAVs overall
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and really what it does for them over the next
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons as they look.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: To try to contend in the future. What are your thoughts?
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the contract makes sense. I know
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: they just they just drafted Cooper flag number one overall.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: But as we were staying before to break talking about
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: teams kind of having just more options and different players, PJ.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: Washington brings that on the team, Like he was a
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: big factor in your your finals run a couple of
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: years years ago with just not only his offense but defensively.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: I remember there were games he was basically guardening Shay
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: and he was he was knocking down three point three
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: point shots. And he gives them the ability to like
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: play the three, play the four, might even play some
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: five and smaller lineups. The MAVs are very like if
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: you look at look at them on paper, they have
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: a very very deep team.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's one of the reasons I put this
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: topic on here for us to get into because I
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: find it intriguing.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they're not a lot of people
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: The West is going.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: To be like a blood bath, that feels like because
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of really, really good teams and but
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: a lot of them have a lot of question marks.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: I think with the Maps is if they get Kyrie
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: back healthy, what be your like your ceiling after that?
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: But they have if you up and down the roster, they.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Have very really very good players, very dependable players at
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: every position, like two to three deep, like where could
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: start for most teams, and I don't know, for them
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: to be able to be in this position after trading
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: away Luca is hilarious to me.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, because you're like, yeah, it's like, what the
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: hell is this team doing? You're like, you know what,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: depth wise, not not horrendous at all.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean, if he's I don't know, I
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: don't know if you say yes, But if you're like, oh,
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: we're gonna trade Luca, we get Anthony Davis and the
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: number one pick, yeah, somebody might be like okay, I
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: would consider. But just I remember when the you you
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: were probably as shocked as everybody else happened, like.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: What are what are they doing? So yeah, like.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: You said, that's a it's a it's another one of
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: those teams like you were talking about in terms of
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: a copycat league. They have a lot of a lot
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: of players at every position, a lot of deaf and
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: they could be they could be one of the better
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: teams in the West. Like again, the West is going
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: to be tough with just you you have the thunder
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: return and trying to be return champions, The Nuggets made improvements,
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: the Rockets added KD. Like it's on and on and on,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: like there's there's so many players. But the yeah, they
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: have a they have a really good team. So the PJ.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Washington move wasn't like a big surprise. I mean it
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: was the right thing to do, and they have a
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: to me, they have one of the top teams in
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: the West. But on paper, but we know the game's
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: not played on paper.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Right, Absolutely great way to put it, for sure, you know,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Luca, and I do wonder what
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: happens with Luca and Lebron as the Lakers look towards
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: this coming season, because they have a ton I was
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: reading an article recently. They have a ton of expiring
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: money from guys who they can really dangle in front
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: of some other teams, possibly get another star to join
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: the team. I'm wondering, how do you see the Lakers
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: really fitting into the NBA picture this coming season, especially
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: with those expiring contracts they have the ability to possibly
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: bring another star in. I mean, the Lakers could be
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: a scary team this year.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Perhaps, Yeah, I mean, they they're another They're another one
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: of those teams when if you have Luca, you have Lebron,
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: you have a chance.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Like it's just simply that. Yeah, I don't I don't
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: know where exactly to put the Lakers because I feel
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: like with.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Them, they come and another team that comes with some
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: question marks too, like what are you going to get
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: from DeAndre a And like it's it's Luca going. Luca
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: looks great playing playing uh euroball right now like Feebo,
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: he looks in great shape. Is not going to continue
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: throughout the course of the season. Lebron is like eighty
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: years old and he still looks like.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: He still.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Around. It's crazy the way he moves.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes those it makes those sense. I mean
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: they signed uh, I mean who they picked.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Up Marcus Smart? Marcus Smart?
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Ye, yeah, you know, working from him like you can
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: if you can refer back to being that defensive player
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: type type type player that you can have a two
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: way player on that team. And except I don't, I
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: don't know what the next move is for for the Lakers,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: but they did made the shift to be going away
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: from being Lebron's team to be Luca's team. Yeah, so
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: it depends on like you said, after after they free
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: up all this money, who is available and who they
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: feel like can fit in that uh ecosystem with with
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: Luca and depending on if Lebron's coming back or whatever
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: else it is and moving forward. So that's going to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: be That's another that's another interesting team in the West.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: But they'll be in the playoff hunt obviously, yes they
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: have they have too much talent. They just have too
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: much talent, So it will be it'll be interesting to see.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Quad, Before I let you head out
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: of here, buddy, and before we wrap up this episode here,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the Eastern Conference because you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: when it does come to you know, looking at this
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: conference and the projections here, the Knicks have certainly gone
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: through some changes, you know, doing something pretty unconventional by
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: firing their coach who actually got them to the Eastern
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Conference finals.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I mean absolutely shocked when we when we all heard
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that news.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, the Calves are obviously going to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: be a strong team heading into this season, knowing what
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: they have on the court. But I'm very interested to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: see how the Magic and even how the Hawks are
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: going to perform right out of the gate this season.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: If both of those teams that have talent, you know,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: if they're able to get some momentum. What are your
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: thoughts on some of the projections here about how this
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference may look this coming season.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: I have no idea I have because, like you just said.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: It's fun. That's why we don't know. And it's fun.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: It's fun.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: And I look at I I look at all the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: teams in the East, and I'm like, okay, I can,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: I can kind of make a case for this team.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: But then it comes to question.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: Marks, like you can you obviously make the case for
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: the Calves because of well, how how dominant they were
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: throughout the course of the course of the year, but
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: then they kind of fell short in the playoffs because
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: of injury. So yeah, like they can stay healthy, there's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: a chance the Knicks may finally they fired fired your
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: coach that that had them winning, But they've made some
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: moves on the margin to kind of change that. So
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: they might be a top team. But you're talking about
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: a team like the Magic. They added Desmond Baine, who
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: addresses like one of their issues with perimanter shooting, does
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: that help them make the jump? Atlanta add in porzingis
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: if he's he's fully healthy, He's a perfect fit for
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: the for that team and what they want to do Detroit,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: can they make a jump after having like a great,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: a great, a great year with all these young players.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course Tobias Harris, you know, former Philadelphia
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: seventy six or just having a great twenty twenty four
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: twenty five season.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Of course, he was he was the missing piece. He
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: was obviously he was the missing piece. Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: And also we were talking about controversies earlier with Kawhi Leonard,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: the Molie Beasley Uh yeambling that happened with Detroit. That's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: that's a whole other thing. So like there there's that. Also,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I know, I know how a burden is hurt. And
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: also they traded away, uh call Miles Turner left, but
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: the Pacers still have a lot of good players and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: they still have for Carlisle. So you don't know what
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: you're gonna look like on in the season. The Bucks
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: at Miles Turner and still have Giannis. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: that's that's a possible. Like there's there's so many teams
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: and and sorry to bring this up with the Sixers.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: If the Sixers are freaking healthy, they're able to get healthy.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Dang it. Yes, that's all they need. If Joelle emb.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Just biggest in the world, Yes.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Paul George can get healthy.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like you you look up and down the roads,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: like if they can resign Josh's favorite player, Quinton Grimes. Yeah,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: that's that's a roster that's a contender in the East. Yes,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: that's another rod that's a contender in ease on paper yep.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: So the East is the the East is a section
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: of the the NBA season. That's just question mark, question
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: mark for me. So that's why I'm like, I'm not
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm I'm excited. I'm like, I'm
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: ready for the season to start.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: One of the.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Reasons I'm starting, Yeah, yeah, honestly, I know, God bless you.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: You're a Nets fan, and seriously say prayers for Quab
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: out there if you're if you do that stuff or
• 1:04:16
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• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: the reasons I just love the NBA anymore is because
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: of the competition. You know, a decade ago, you're like, yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: we kind of know who's gonna be going to the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. You know, we we we know certain teams.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: We're an inflection point right now where the competition is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be fierce in the Eastern Conference and because of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the talent and the unknowns that were you were just
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: talking about, it's gonna be a fascinating season and it's
• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:58
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