Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / BREAKING: Nvidia to take $5.5 billion charge on H20 chip exports
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- 0:28Now let's get into this episode. the US Department of Commerce
- 0:33told NVIDIA that it now needs an export license, one that will be
- 0:38required indefinitely before it can send its H2O artificial
- 0:42intelligence chips to China. Marks a new and unexpected
- 0:46escalation in Washington's ongoing effort to limit China's
- 0:49access to high performance computing technology.
- 0:52Now, the H2O chip is Nvidia's most capable AI product
- 0:55currently permitted for sale in China under previous
- 0:58restrictions, and that status has now changed.
- 1:00In its regulatory filing, NVIDIA said the government justified
- 1:04the decision based on a perceived risk that the H2O2
- 1:07might be used inside a supercomputer operated from
- 1:11Chinese territory. Now the news landed with a thud.
- 1:15NVIDIA stock dropped roughly 6% in after hours trading, and the
- 1:19company warned of a $5.5 billion charge tied to the disruption in
- 1:25its next financial quarter, which ends April 27th.
- 1:28Now, the stakes are very high here.
- 1:30Nvidia's not just another tech vendor, it's the engine behind
- 1:34everything AI right now. This chips power nearly every
- 1:38major artificial intelligence platform, from Open a is Chat
- 1:41TPT to Metas Llama to China's most advanced homegrown models,
- 1:46too. Now that includes Deepseeks R1,
- 1:48which is a reasoning focus. Large language model then
- 1:51emerged in January and briefly rattled the USAI sector with its
- 1:56unexpectedly strong performance. And some U.S. officials had
- 2:00already been pushing to tighten restrictions on H2O, concerned
- 2:04it could give Chinese firms A foothold to catch up or even
- 2:08surpass US advancements in certain types of model training.
- 2:11These concerns have materialized into formal policy now.
- 2:15Now, the backdrop to this decision involves more than tech
- 2:18specs, though. This last week, reports emerged
- 2:20that NVIDIA CEO Jensen Wong had dinner with former President
- 2:24Donald Trump at Mar a Lago. Now he it was suggested that
- 2:31Wang usually use the opportunity to negotiate software
- 2:35restrictions on the H2O chip. A part of the reported
- 2:38discussion included NVIDIA pledging to increase its
- 2:41investment in domestic chip production.
- 2:44Coincidence or not, NVIDIA followed up Monday by announcing
- 2:48it would spend hundreds of millions of dollars over the
- 2:50next four years to manufacture a portion of its AI chips in the
- 2:54US Now. The announcement was light on
- 2:56details such as which chips, in what quantity, and at which
- 3:00facilities, but was interpreted as a possible effort to placate
- 3:05regulators or demonstrate alignment with national
- 3:08industrial policy goals. Now, the importance of the H2O
- 3:12chip specifically lies in its performance envelope.
- 3:16It was designed to skirt the limits set by earlier export
- 3:19rules while still offering enough horsepower to train large
- 3:22scale AI models. The video's intent was clear,
- 3:25though, to maintain a legal foothold in China's growing AI
- 3:29market without triggering additional controls.
- 3:33That calculation seems to have failed.
- 3:36US regulators are now treating the H2O as too risky to leave
- 3:39unregulated, and by requiring a license that may never be
- 3:43granted or may come with added compliance burdens, the new rule
- 3:48effectively blocks widespread H2O shipments to China.
- 3:51And for NVIDIA, this development cuts off a major path for
- 3:55monetizing one of his most strategically engineered
- 3:58products. And for China, it means fewer
- 4:02options for legally acquiring high performance AI hardware
- 4:05from the West. For policy makers, it raises the
- 4:08question of whether aggressive tech controls will yield the
- 4:12desired results or simply accelerate the decoupling of
- 4:15global AI ecosystems. Now, the broader context here is
- 4:19that AI capability is increasingly being treated as a
- 4:22matter of national power. Controlling who gets access to
- 4:26the best chips becomes a lever of international influence.
- 4:31The US is making a bet that slowing China's access to top
- 4:34tier semiconductors will delay the country's ability to match
- 4:38American advances now. Meanwhile, Nvidia's trouble
- 4:42wasn't the only tech headline of the week.
- 4:47In a completely separate arena, Open AI is testing something
- 4:50with potentially massive consequences of its own a
- 4:54prototype social media platform built around ChatGPT.
- 5:00This is an internal project right now, still in the early
- 5:02phases. Now it includes a social feed
- 5:05focused on AI generated images. And sources say open AICEO.
- 5:10Sam Altman has been quietly seeking feedback from trusted
- 5:13outsiders. It's not clear whether this
- 5:15product will launch as a standalone app or an added
- 5:19feature inside ChatGPT itself. But it's clearly more than just
- 5:23a thought experiment. Now, Altman's move into social
- 5:26media would pit him directly against Elon Musk and Mark
- 5:29Zuckerberg, both of whom are already leveraging their
- 5:32platforms X and Meta to collect real time social data for
- 5:36training large language models. Altman has already made public
- 5:39jabs in that direction. When Musk offered to buy open AI
- 5:42for 97.4 billion in February, Altman responded no thank you.
- 5:47But we will buy Twitter for 9.74 billion if you want.
- 5:52Our data is the current currency of modern AI.
- 5:56Platforms like X and Instagram are troves of constantly
- 5:59evolving human behavior. Owning a social app wouldn't
- 6:02just give Open AI more training data, it would give them
- 6:05something Musk and Zuckerberg already possess, an infinite
- 6:09stream of fresh content shaped by real people.
- 6:14Now. It's still unknown if Open AI
- 6:15will green light the social app for public release, though.
- 6:19Even internally, the project is very experimental, but it's mere
- 6:22existence signals how the company is thinking about
- 6:25staying competitive as the race to lead an AI enters a new
- 6:28phase. Now let's get back to NVIDIA a
- 6:31little bit. It challenges it's challenge.
- 6:36Now let's get back to NVIDIA. It's challenges this week aren't
- 6:39just business problems, the geopolitical ones.
- 6:43Washington's new restriction signals a growing willingness to
- 6:46weaponize technological exports. And for a company like NVIDIA,
- 6:50caught between demand and China and policy in the US, the path
- 6:54forward is now absolutely harder to navigate. the US just made
- 6:59Nvidia's business in China more difficult, and Open AI is
- 7:02thinking about launching a social media app.
- 7:05Both moves signal how AI companies are being pulled into
- 7:08new battles over power, access and control, and what control
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