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- 0:02Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April twenty seventh, Happy Draft Day. This
- 0:08Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now a guy who's anything
- 0:13Speaker 1: but mister irrelevant, Jay P.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Chaggery, and welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on Draft Night
- 0:22Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Round one coming up at eight o'clock
- 0:26Speaker 2: Eastern time. The Jaguars had the twenty fourth overall pick.
- 0:29Speaker 2: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com or Jagsocial media,
- 0:32Speaker 2: it's a live look inside Daily's Place, and we welcome
- 0:36Speaker 2: you inside Daily's Place. We've got a busy hour ahead.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Here's what's coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour. The NFL
- 0:43Speaker 2: Draft is here for twenty twenty three. We'll hear from
- 0:46Speaker 2: Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghman coming up, Jaguars dot Com.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Senior writer John Ozer, and a draft a conversation.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Just moments ago, I caught up with general manager Trent Bulky.
- 0:56Speaker 2: We will hear that conversation in just a few moments. Well,
- 1:00Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, John Osier with me.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Now.
- 1:02Speaker 2: We're on the second level at Daily's Place. The gates
- 1:05Speaker 2: open at seven o'clock tonight, and John, it's always an
- 1:08Speaker 2: exciting evening. Round one, no matter where the Jaguars are picking.
- 1:12Speaker 4: Well, you just talk with Trent who they taking.
- 1:15Speaker 3: We'll find. I don't think we're gonna find.
- 1:17Speaker 5: One of the conversation is about, on a serious note,
- 1:21Speaker 5: I think this is I say, a benchmark draft, but
- 1:25Speaker 5: an important draft because it's the first of what I
- 1:28Speaker 5: think is going to be the Jaguars drafts new era,
- 1:30Speaker 5: meaning for the last ten or twelve years, they've picked
- 1:33Speaker 5: in the top ten all but one year. I think
- 1:35Speaker 5: now you're gonna see more drafts like this, more pre
- 1:38Speaker 5: draft lead up like this. And Jeff, you have to
- 1:42Speaker 5: be able to draft well in the bottom quarter of
- 1:44Speaker 5: the first round if you're going to be a draft
- 1:47Speaker 5: and developed team over the long haul, and this is
- 1:49Speaker 5: the first time they get a chance to do that.
- 1:50Speaker 6: Well.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I've said many times that the draft is the lifeblood
- 1:54Speaker 2: of any franchise, and a lot of people think, well,
- 1:56Speaker 2: you can't get that good of a player when you're
- 1:58Speaker 2: drafting in the bottom third of the and that's not
- 2:00Speaker 2: the case. I mean, there's good football players throughout the draft.
- 2:03Speaker 2: You just got to do your homework and find good
- 2:05Speaker 2: football players. Now, the interesting thing about this draft to
- 2:08Speaker 2: me is is that if you look at all the
- 2:10Speaker 2: different mock drafts. They're all over the map. I mean
- 2:13Speaker 2: literally all over the map. There's probably about eighteen different
- 2:17Speaker 2: players that are mocked where the Jaguars are picking. And
- 2:21Speaker 2: to be honest with you guys, some years I've got
- 2:23Speaker 2: kind of an idea, you know, but maybe narrowing it
- 2:25Speaker 2: down to two or three players, I've got absolutely no
- 2:28Speaker 2: idea for two reasons. One, I think this is a
- 2:31Speaker 2: little bit of a question mark draft because there's a
- 2:34Speaker 2: lot of unknowns about where guys are at and where
- 2:37Speaker 2: they're stacked at. But then also, the Jaguars are very
- 2:41Speaker 2: close to the vest I mean, and right now, it's
- 2:44Speaker 2: hard to kind of get a little bit of a feeling.
- 2:47Speaker 3: For where they're going to go, even offensively or defensively.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I've got no idea, but I can tell you there's
- 2:52Speaker 2: some really good football players that are going to be
- 2:53Speaker 2: found at twenty four.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Let's here.
- 2:55Speaker 2: We'll hear from Frin Balke coming up in just a
- 2:57Speaker 2: few moments, and we'll dig into some of those aspect
- 3:00Speaker 2: some of those names a little bit later on the show.
- 3:02Speaker 2: But a report this morning from JOHNSHIPLEYVESI dot com of
- 3:06Speaker 2: a pending Cam Robinson's suspension for a violation of the
- 3:09Speaker 2: performance enhancing Drug policy. Mike Deroco of ESPN reported that
- 3:13Speaker 2: the second sample will be tested to confirm what it
- 3:16Speaker 2: is and the length of the suspension. There are reports
- 3:19Speaker 2: he could lose nearly nine hundred thousand dollars per game out. Well,
- 3:23Speaker 2: the team is known about this for a while now.
- 3:26Speaker 2: This is not a surprise this morning for the organization,
- 3:29Speaker 2: So no big shake up of the draft board, but
- 3:32Speaker 2: logs this is obviously a developing so we will see
- 3:36Speaker 2: what happens in the future with it. Not ideal for
- 3:38Speaker 2: the Jaguars. But should it change anything in draft press? Well,
- 3:42Speaker 2: I think it always. You always have to take everything
- 3:45Speaker 2: into consideration. Something like this. Absolutely, you take this in
- 3:48Speaker 2: a consideration. Now, let's go back to this sample that
- 3:51Speaker 2: you're talking about. When you take a PED test as
- 3:54Speaker 2: a player, because I've taken quite a few of them,
- 3:58Speaker 2: you pee in a bottle. Okay, that bottle is split
- 4:01Speaker 2: into two samples. The biggest one goes into bottle A,
- 4:05Speaker 2: and then a smaller one goes into bottle B. So
- 4:08Speaker 2: if something hits on A, okay, they go back and
- 4:11Speaker 2: retest the B part of that sample, which is the
- 4:14Speaker 2: same exact curine sample, okay, but it's just been split
- 4:17Speaker 2: into two parts.
- 4:18Speaker 3: So they want to.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Confirm so that what they're looking for is confirmation that
- 4:22Speaker 2: in fact, the substance that was found in A will
- 4:24Speaker 2: again be found in B and make sure that there
- 4:27Speaker 2: is no mistake. So just to give people an idea,
- 4:29Speaker 2: that's what the sample B is that you were talking about.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Well, you hope that it doesn't influence their decision in
- 4:38Speaker 5: round one too much.
- 4:39Speaker 4: I know they have taken any.
- 4:40Speaker 5: Consideration, but you hope, and I think Tran Balki sees
- 4:43Speaker 5: it this way that you are drafting for the long
- 4:46Speaker 5: haul more than you're drafting for a six game or
- 4:49Speaker 5: four game or whatever. That suspension not becomes That said,
- 4:54Speaker 5: I do believe with this class where it lines up
- 4:56Speaker 5: at twenty four, and with the fact that they learned
- 5:01Speaker 5: so much the importance of that swing tackle last year,
- 5:04Speaker 5: I do think offensive tackle was in play anyway. If
- 5:07Speaker 5: they draft one, everybody's gonna say, well, is because of
- 5:10Speaker 5: the suspension. I think offensive tackle would also be a
- 5:13Speaker 5: long term thing that makes sense for this franchise anyway.
- 5:16Speaker 3: Or you've got a franchise quarterback.
- 5:17Speaker 2: I mean, so tackle is always in play and you
- 5:19Speaker 2: lost ja Won Taylor. Look, you signed in free agency
- 5:23Speaker 2: Josh Wells, who was here for many years when he
- 5:26Speaker 2: was a young player. And will he be a guy
- 5:28Speaker 2: that can step in and be a starter for six games?
- 5:30Speaker 2: Sure he could, and six games typical is typically what
- 5:33Speaker 2: we've seen with ped suspensions around the league in the past.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Will that in fact be it for Cam Robinson? We
- 5:39Speaker 2: don't know until the league makes an announcement. But tackle
- 5:42Speaker 2: is in play. And the reason why it's in play
- 5:44Speaker 2: there's some really good tackles that are available. And also
- 5:47Speaker 2: there's some really good right tackles that are available in
- 5:50Speaker 2: this draft that are highly rated.
- 5:52Speaker 3: We'll discuss some of those guys a little bit later tonight.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Now back to draft day and general manager Trent Bulkey.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Just a few moments ago, I sat down with him
- 6:00Speaker 2: in the Jaguars draft room and asked him, now almost
- 6:03Speaker 2: a decade of doing this as a GM in the NFL,
- 6:06Speaker 2: what's this draft day routine.
- 6:09Speaker 7: It's been the same all ten years, I think, you know.
- 6:12Speaker 7: I get up early, we walked through some of the
- 6:15Speaker 7: stuff in the morning. Ethan and I spent the morning
- 6:18Speaker 7: going through some things on the board. The board's been set.
- 6:21Speaker 7: You know, we haven't changed anything. We just kind of
- 6:24Speaker 7: take one more look and then I usually head out
- 6:27Speaker 7: for a run and get a few miles on the
- 6:29Speaker 7: road and get back here and try to get ready
- 6:32Speaker 7: for this thing.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Are their nerves still? Is there anxiety? Is there a
- 6:36Speaker 2: mix of both? None at this time or just a
- 6:39Speaker 2: few hours away, you.
- 6:40Speaker 8: Know, not really.
- 6:42Speaker 7: You know, I think we've put in a lot of time,
- 6:44Speaker 7: a lot of effort that went into this, you know, coaches, personnel, staff,
- 6:49Speaker 7: There's been a lot of hours that we sorted through
- 6:51Speaker 7: film and records on people, backgrounds, sha all the stuff
- 6:55Speaker 7: that you do to get ready.
- 6:56Speaker 8: You know.
- 6:56Speaker 7: Now it's more just kind of the anxiety, the anxiousness
- 7:00Speaker 7: of getting this thing started. Finding out exactly who's going
- 7:03Speaker 7: to be a jawar.
- 7:04Speaker 2: You said last week, you're down to three or four
- 7:07Speaker 2: guys that you really think could be in play there
- 7:09Speaker 2: at twenty four. If it comes down to it and
- 7:12Speaker 2: multiple of those three or four guys are available, how
- 7:15Speaker 2: do you figure out which one you take?
- 7:17Speaker 7: Well, that's already been decided, you know, we have a
- 7:20Speaker 7: pecking order. Coach and I met with with Shad last night,
- 7:23Speaker 7: went through our thoughts, you know, exactly the order we
- 7:27Speaker 7: would pick them as they come off.
- 7:29Speaker 8: Today isn't the day to debate who you're gonna go.
- 7:31Speaker 7: After, right, we have three or four guys that we
- 7:33Speaker 7: feel really good about, and we have more than that,
- 7:35Speaker 7: you know, let's face it.
- 7:37Speaker 8: I mean, you've got to be prepared for anything.
- 7:39Speaker 7: But we've got a group of guys that were really
- 7:41Speaker 7: interested in and we've got an order at which we
- 7:44Speaker 7: would take them.
- 7:45Speaker 2: How wild could it get at the top just seeing
- 7:48Speaker 2: all these reports. I know you're not a big Twitter guy,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but all that stuff combined the last day or two
- 7:52Speaker 2: before the draft.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Can be chaos. Is that reality tonight?
- 7:56Speaker 8: Yeah?
- 7:56Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 7:57Speaker 7: Everyone thought it was last year and very little went on,
- 8:00Speaker 7: you know, so who knows?
- 8:02Speaker 8: You know.
- 8:03Speaker 7: That's the great thing about the draft, right, everything that happens.
- 8:06Speaker 7: Nobody can really plan out. You really don't know until
- 8:09Speaker 7: you're on the clock a lot of times whether you're
- 8:11Speaker 7: going to make a move or not make a move.
- 8:13Speaker 8: And it's no different for any other team. You know.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Part of the draft process is bringing those drafted players
- 8:19Speaker 2: back for a second contract that gives stability the organization.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Devona Hamilton signed that was announced today extended draft pick
- 8:26Speaker 2: here has worked his way up and really has been
- 8:29Speaker 2: rewarded with a deal long term. And that's really the
- 8:32Speaker 2: goal of the organization, right to get these draft picks
- 8:34Speaker 2: to stick around for a while.
- 8:36Speaker 7: You want to be a homegrown football team as much
- 8:38Speaker 7: as you can, and we've been pretty fortunate the last
- 8:41Speaker 7: couple of years. We've gotten some really good quality free
- 8:45Speaker 7: agents and really good culture fits, really good football players.
- 8:49Speaker 7: But the philosophy of this team, this organization is going
- 8:53Speaker 7: to be draft and retained. And you know, Devon has
- 8:57Speaker 7: worked his tail off and you know he's.
- 9:00Speaker 8: A byproduct of that process.
- 9:02Speaker 7: You know, he's a great culture fit, He's an excellent
- 9:06Speaker 7: fit for the defensive.
- 9:07Speaker 8: Scheme we run.
- 9:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't say enough good things about him in
- 9:10Speaker 7: the contract that he signed earned.
- 9:12Speaker 2: This is the last draft in this room, because next
- 9:14Speaker 2: year you'll be in the football building.
- 9:15Speaker 3: How about that?
- 9:16Speaker 7: Well, you know this is a great room, it really is.
- 9:19Speaker 7: We were talking to the ownership about it last night. Very
- 9:21Speaker 7: few have this kind of space. We got three full
- 9:24Speaker 7: screen videos going on. We can do a lot of
- 9:26Speaker 7: things and here from a technology standpoint, the new one's
- 9:30Speaker 7: going to be special though too.
- 9:33Speaker 2: That's Trent Bulky Jaguars general manager in the draft room man,
- 9:38Speaker 2: the Jaguars have nine picks in their pocket over the weekend. Well,
- 9:44Speaker 2: if we know anything about Trent Bulke's draft history, he
- 9:46Speaker 2: has been willing to move a lot in the drafts
- 9:50Speaker 2: he has controlled. He's made twenty three draft day trades first, second,
- 9:56Speaker 2: or third day. We'll see if that trend continues. Anything
- 9:59Speaker 2: stand out there.
- 10:00Speaker 5: John Well, I'd love to see him take those Day
- 10:02Speaker 5: three picks, package them up and take them all and
- 10:05Speaker 5: move into Round two JP and get us out of
- 10:07Speaker 5: here on Saturday.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Of course you will. Yeah.
- 10:09Speaker 4: I mean, I think.
- 10:10Speaker 5: The calmness of the day versus what people think the
- 10:16Speaker 5: draft really is, I think is always energy. People think
- 10:19Speaker 5: there's fighting banging on the table. There's very little of that.
- 10:24Speaker 5: Once you really on the clock. They know who they're
- 10:26Speaker 5: going to pick at number twenty four, and there's a
- 10:28Speaker 5: list of number twenty four.
- 10:29Speaker 4: Jet Well.
- 10:30Speaker 2: And there are some rooms though that do have some
- 10:33Speaker 2: fighting going on on draft day. I mean, that's just
- 10:35Speaker 2: the reality of it. And look, if you're disciplined, though,
- 10:39Speaker 2: you stick to your board and you draft the best
- 10:41Speaker 2: of best available player that's on your board, you know,
- 10:45Speaker 2: And I think also that because a lot of people say, well,
- 10:48Speaker 2: is need taking into account, Yes, it is, because that's
- 10:51Speaker 2: how the board is stacked as well, because need is
- 10:54Speaker 2: taken into account as well as the talent level of
- 10:57Speaker 2: the players that are on that board.
- 10:58Speaker 5: As much as that joke about it, Jay, I do
- 11:01Speaker 5: think I've got many questions about this supposedly being a
- 11:04Speaker 5: week day three draft.
- 11:07Speaker 4: That's what you.
- 11:08Speaker 5: Hear it is Trent in the past, I think it
- 11:11Speaker 5: was two years ago. Trade it out of a day
- 11:14Speaker 5: like that and try to get rid of as many
- 11:16Speaker 5: places as possible and move into that next year. You
- 11:19Speaker 5: wonder if that's not something to watch on Saturday.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Could be? Could be? Could be?
- 11:23Speaker 2: But I think the one thing that is for certain
- 11:26Speaker 2: this football team is going to be looking at certain
- 11:28Speaker 2: positions very strongly. I think one of those positions is
- 11:31Speaker 2: gonna be cornerback, because this team has a need at corner.
- 11:36Speaker 2: You would love to find a defensive tackle that can
- 11:38Speaker 2: rush the passer. You would love to find a tight
- 11:41Speaker 2: end that can block and catch the ball because Doug Peterson,
- 11:45Speaker 2: we know, loves a two tight end set. So there's
- 11:47Speaker 2: so many different players that fit into those categories. I
- 11:51Speaker 2: think it's going to be a very interesting draft. And
- 11:53Speaker 2: some of the ones that we have up on the
- 11:54Speaker 2: screen right there. Devin Witherspoon is a total tone center.
- 11:58Speaker 2: The guy watching his film John I love him. Christian
- 12:02Speaker 2: Gonzalez is a guy that's got immense talent.
- 12:05Speaker 4: It's gonna be awesome for where every team gets that.
- 12:08Speaker 2: One of those guys or at corner would be a
- 12:11Speaker 2: tremendous acquisition. Brian Branch I love him because he's a
- 12:14Speaker 2: safety that plays nickel, He's got great football smarts. Joey
- 12:19Speaker 2: Porter plays great man. I mean, there's a lot of great,
- 12:22Speaker 2: great assets that are available, and those are five of
- 12:25Speaker 2: them right there at corner.
- 12:26Speaker 3: All right, we'll come back in a moment.
- 12:27Speaker 2: We'll dig a little deeper into some of those prospects,
- 12:30Speaker 2: some others on defense, certainly the offensive line if that's
- 12:33Speaker 2: in play tonight for the Jaguars, and plenty more ahead
- 12:36Speaker 2: of course tonight here at Daily's Place, it's the twenty
- 12:38Speaker 2: twenty three Due Vault Draft Party, presented by Donovan Air,
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- 12:47Speaker 2: draft analysis and on stage appearances. Head coach Doug Peterson
- 12:50Speaker 2: will be here in select Jags players, including quarterback Trevor
- 12:53Speaker 2: Lawrence Parking will be a bit tricky. There's the travel
- 12:56Speaker 2: camp RV showing lot Jay Jacksonville Drumbo Shrimp game is
- 13:00Speaker 2: schedule at least for seven. It's raining right now. We'll
- 13:03Speaker 2: see if they get that in. So get here early.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Gates open at seven o'clock, Raider Shine. We're under the
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- 13:11Speaker 2: on the Jaguars Digital Network.
- 13:19Speaker 9: Impossible to predict, you know. So I think there's gonna
- 13:22Speaker 9: be good players there, but in terms of, you know,
- 13:24Speaker 9: the runs that take place and where that goes, it's
- 13:26Speaker 9: tough to see exactly who's going to be there when
- 13:28Speaker 9: they pick, because everybody's all over the map this year.
- 13:32Speaker 9: So I think they're in a pretty good spot. You know,
- 13:34Speaker 9: they'll be able to go in a couple different directions.
- 13:35Speaker 9: I think the corner of the group is so deep
- 13:38Speaker 9: that I do feel like there's gonna be a corner
- 13:39Speaker 9: to their liking that's there, you know when they pick.
- 13:43Speaker 2: That's Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network with Brian Sexton and Arthur
- 13:47Speaker 2: Bryant's Barbecue. Not a bad place for media day for
- 13:50Speaker 2: the NFL Media department, Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 13:55Speaker 2: Jake Shadrick, John Osier, Jeff Logoman. Of course, the full
- 13:58Speaker 2: interview with Daniel, Jeremy and some other media personalities from
- 14:02Speaker 2: NFL Network available now in Jaguars dot Com and the
- 14:04Speaker 2: Official Jaguars Podcast network. So we touched on some of
- 14:08Speaker 2: the defensive backs last segment. That was some of the
- 14:11Speaker 2: conversation that Daniel was having right there with Brian Sexton
- 14:14Speaker 2: as well. And here's the reason why. It's a position
- 14:18Speaker 2: of need. Obviously, Shaq Griffin is gone. You got a
- 14:21Speaker 2: thirty year old corner on the outside who played down
- 14:24Speaker 2: the stretch on the outside last year.
- 14:26Speaker 3: What's the real long term future for him? There? Trey
- 14:30Speaker 3: Herndon has been resigned.
- 14:32Speaker 2: How long do you feel like he could be available
- 14:35Speaker 2: and at a high.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Level for this team?
- 14:37Speaker 2: Of course they love Tyson Campbell on the other side,
- 14:39Speaker 2: So John, yes, why not? You can't have enough corners
- 14:42Speaker 2: really in this league the way offense is played right now.
- 14:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll defer to Jeff and ask Jeff this to me.
- 14:48Speaker 5: Darius Williams struggled at Nickel, so he was better on
- 14:52Speaker 5: the outside. You're not gonna dothing with Tyson Campbell. Out
- 14:56Speaker 5: of the defensive backs that could be there at twenty four,
- 14:59Speaker 5: is there somebody who you can play nickel in the
- 15:01Speaker 5: short term and then kick out to the outside or
- 15:05Speaker 5: do you have the same problem that you have a
- 15:06Speaker 5: Darius not really strong in the middle, needs to be outside.
- 15:10Speaker 5: Is there a guy that that makes sense with That's
- 15:12Speaker 5: why I think Branch makes sense.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Well, Branch makes sense because I think he can play anyone.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I think he can play nickel, I think he can
- 15:19Speaker 2: play safety. Could he play outside and play corner possibly,
- 15:22Speaker 2: but I don't think that's the ultimate spot for him.
- 15:24Speaker 2: But the top two guys that are there in my opinion,
- 15:29Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon and Christian Gonzalees. If for some reason, either
- 15:33Speaker 2: one of these guys, and we were just talking about
- 15:34Speaker 2: this turn to break, if either one of these guys
- 15:37Speaker 2: happens to fall down to twenty four, you got to
- 15:39Speaker 2: snatch them off. And there's a possibility that that could happen.
- 15:42Speaker 2: But as Daniel Jeremiah said that, look, it's a deep position.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Then you could pick up somebody that's you know, in
- 15:47Speaker 2: round two or round three.
- 15:48Speaker 3: They'll give you a name. Roley Moss at Iowa, a
- 15:51Speaker 3: little known guy.
- 15:52Speaker 2: That just I mean his effortless playing man coverage, and
- 15:55Speaker 2: he's got great speed, and he's got a great resume.
- 15:58Speaker 2: He's played multiple years. Said I there's a guy that
- 16:01Speaker 2: the Jaguars could get him round two or a round three.
- 16:03Speaker 2: I mean, so there's gonna be other opportunities, not just
- 16:08Speaker 2: in round one, to fill that need that you have
- 16:10Speaker 2: at corner. Let's stay on defense and pass rush, right.
- 16:14Speaker 2: I mean, this is a group that we heard Doug
- 16:16Speaker 2: Peterson talk about it in the pre draft lunch in
- 16:19Speaker 2: last week. You know, they've spent some draft equity at
- 16:23Speaker 2: that position and that idea at least the last two
- 16:26Speaker 2: three years. Obviously number one overall pick last year, and
- 16:29Speaker 2: he said that, hey, those guys have to get better
- 16:31Speaker 2: as well, not that they can't supplement that. Maybe not
- 16:34Speaker 2: in the first round, but at some point in this draft, John,
- 16:36Speaker 2: you gotta maybe address that again.
- 16:38Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a tough call because you need to
- 16:42Speaker 5: trust the guys that you drafted on the front seven last.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Year to be your core up there this year.
- 16:49Speaker 5: At the same time, you've got to get better in
- 16:51Speaker 5: the pass rush. I don't think they will go pass
- 16:55Speaker 5: rush at twenty four unless there's somebody special that they
- 16:58Speaker 5: think is there. The guy that I keep hearing about
- 17:01Speaker 5: last couple of days in terms of reading about associated
- 17:04Speaker 5: with the Jaguars, reports that they're interested, et cetera, is
- 17:08Speaker 5: the van Ness kid from Iowa. It seems like he's
- 17:11Speaker 5: the best potential option there at twenty four. What do
- 17:14Speaker 5: you think of him and what else could be there
- 17:15Speaker 5: at twenty four?
- 17:16Speaker 2: Well, for him, he hasn't started a lot of games
- 17:18Speaker 2: that Iowa but.
- 17:19Speaker 5: A program though that loves to play their seniors and
- 17:23Speaker 5: make guys earn it. My understanding is yeah, so that's
- 17:27Speaker 5: what sort of kept him out of that, that's the theory.
- 17:29Speaker 4: Anyway, He's a.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Very powerful player.
- 17:33Speaker 2: A lot of people want to draw the comparison to
- 17:35Speaker 2: Justin Smith, which I would kind of be slow to
- 17:38Speaker 2: make that comparison great because Justin Smith is one of
- 17:41Speaker 2: the strongest players to ever play the game, and look,
- 17:43Speaker 2: Vanessa is a strong player.
- 17:45Speaker 3: But is he that level? I don't know.
- 17:46Speaker 2: Once you get to the NFL, it's a totally different thing.
- 17:49Speaker 2: But the one thing that he doesn't have yet is
- 17:52Speaker 2: an array of pass rush moves.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Okay, he's an.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Edge player that plays with a lot of power, likes
- 17:57Speaker 2: the bull rushing.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Can he learn to do more? Maybe? Maybe, But there's
- 18:01Speaker 3: some other guys that are that are at that edge.
- 18:04Speaker 2: Position and as an interior rusher that are other good
- 18:06Speaker 2: options as well.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Nolan Smith could be one of those guys. I think
- 18:09Speaker 3: he's too small, JP.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he come on when you play too
- 18:14Speaker 2: when you play an edge position at two hundred and
- 18:16Speaker 2: thirty five pounds, I mean, look, you got to get
- 18:17Speaker 2: some leaden your shorts, and he doesn't have a whole
- 18:20Speaker 2: lot of leadnis shorts. And I think he's a He's
- 18:22Speaker 2: a stand up linebacker. Could he be an edge player
- 18:26Speaker 2: on sub situation?
- 18:28Speaker 3: Sure he could. Devin Lloyd almost yeah.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I mean as far as size wise, been probably even
- 18:32Speaker 2: a little bit smaller in stature than Devin Lloyd. I
- 18:35Speaker 2: love him, though, I mean, don't get me wrong. I
- 18:37Speaker 2: mean I love this guy, but I think he's a linebacker.
- 18:39Speaker 2: I don't think he's an edge player. I think the
- 18:42Speaker 2: best edge player in the draft is Tyry Wilson. This
- 18:45Speaker 2: guy is an absolute freaking JP.
- 18:47Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 18:47Speaker 2: I know Alabama's close to your heart and they've got
- 18:50Speaker 2: a guy and Robinson.
- 18:51Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
- 18:53Speaker 2: But Tyry Wilson has got length, he's got size, and
- 18:56Speaker 2: he plays the game with power.
- 18:59Speaker 3: Love.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about give me a bag of
- 19:02Speaker 2: popcorn and let me watch Tyree Wilson. I'm golding slip
- 19:06Speaker 2: around to the offensive side of the football. Now with
- 19:09Speaker 2: the Jaguars, hey, they could be in play for an
- 19:12Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Of course at number twenty four. And we
- 19:14Speaker 2: touched on a couple of these guys. Let's start though,
- 19:17Speaker 2: with the big fella out of the University of Tennessee,
- 19:19Speaker 2: Darnell Wright, who against Will Anderson in that one matchups
- 19:25Speaker 2: that's one sample size. What else can he do? He
- 19:28Speaker 2: has a little attitude to go with it. He can
- 19:30Speaker 2: do everything. I mean, this is a guy that's done
- 19:33Speaker 2: it for a long period of time. He There's been
- 19:37Speaker 2: some talk could he play left he maybe, but I
- 19:40Speaker 2: don't think I think that would be a little bit
- 19:42Speaker 2: of a stretch. Maybe in a pinch, you could have
- 19:43Speaker 2: him play left tackle. But this guy is mean, he's powerful,
- 19:48Speaker 2: he's nasty, he's got the resume. In other words, the
- 19:52Speaker 2: game's under his belt. So because the one thing I
- 19:55Speaker 2: remember having a conversation with Trent Balky and it was
- 19:58Speaker 2: going back to last year when they were on the
- 20:00Speaker 2: OTAs and training camp, and he said something that is
- 20:03Speaker 2: just so true, and it's a philosophy that you got
- 20:05Speaker 2: to have when you're looking at personality. Said, look, guys
- 20:08Speaker 2: that have traits in college, those traits will carry over
- 20:11Speaker 2: into the NFL. So in other words, if a guy
- 20:13Speaker 2: has done it for a long period of time, he's
- 20:15Speaker 2: been available, and he's been powerful, then the chances of
- 20:18Speaker 2: him doing the same exact thing at the level in
- 20:20Speaker 2: the NFL is more likely than a guy that you're
- 20:22Speaker 2: trying to project that's been a one year wonder. This
- 20:25Speaker 2: guy has been doing it as for a long period
- 20:27Speaker 2: of time. When you watch him against all the good
- 20:30Speaker 2: players in that sec he was excellent, And.
- 20:33Speaker 5: You talk about a guy who indeed checks everybody. I
- 20:36Speaker 5: think it's forty two starts over four years at Tennessee,
- 20:39Speaker 5: forty seven games, which again that speaks to the reliability
- 20:43Speaker 5: Big Conference has played left and right tackle. To me,
- 20:48Speaker 5: this is one of the guys you know behind the curtain.
- 20:50Speaker 3: A little bit.
- 20:51Speaker 4: I pre write three or four that I think might
- 20:53Speaker 4: be guys.
- 20:54Speaker 5: This is one of the ones that I think makes
- 20:57Speaker 5: so much sense that I aan ahead and pre road.
- 20:59Speaker 4: It's a great story. JP you look for to wait
- 21:01Speaker 4: to read as a man, but he is a man.
- 21:04Speaker 5: It all makes sense, especially when you consider that Walker
- 21:09Speaker 5: Little probably is a little more natural at left tackle.
- 21:13Speaker 4: Eventually.
- 21:14Speaker 5: I don't know what happens with Cam after this season,
- 21:17Speaker 5: but Walker left tackle, this kid at right tackle, where
- 21:20Speaker 5: he's natural. That sort of lines up with what you
- 21:23Speaker 5: see some of the Tea leaves being. It makes sense
- 21:25Speaker 5: of twenty four to me.
- 21:26Speaker 3: And just because he's more of a right tackle.
- 21:29Speaker 2: The best left tackle in the draft is is Paris Johnson,
- 21:32Speaker 2: junior at Ohio State. You know people are wondering. I
- 21:34Speaker 2: mean because look, I mean, if that guy's available at
- 21:37Speaker 2: twenty four, he could be an option too if they're
- 21:39Speaker 2: gonna end up going offensive lineman. And Paris Johnson's got
- 21:42Speaker 2: the athleticism, he's got the length, like the way he
- 21:45Speaker 2: plays the game. And by the way, john when you
- 21:48Speaker 2: watch Ohio State, their offensive line has three possible first
- 21:52Speaker 2: round draft picks. I mean, that's just it's like watching Alabama,
- 21:54Speaker 2: House State.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Georgia's like crazy. Yeah.
- 21:57Speaker 2: The right tackle has like the longest wing span in
- 21:59Speaker 2: the history the Senior Bowl. Dwan Jones I mean, the
- 22:02Speaker 2: guy is just a freak. He's kind of similar to
- 22:05Speaker 2: Darnell right in a lot of ways, and then how
- 22:07Speaker 2: he plays the game a little nasty.
- 22:09Speaker 3: He's big and.
- 22:09Speaker 2: He's powerful, So two right tackles that are similar. But
- 22:12Speaker 2: Darnell writes the man.
- 22:14Speaker 5: One thing that speaks to Jeff's point about the potential
- 22:18Speaker 5: for somebody like that to slide. Usually when you say
- 22:21Speaker 5: that before the draft, you sort of say it with yeah,
- 22:24Speaker 5: but it's not going to happen. From talking to people
- 22:26Speaker 5: around the league and from reading about what's going on
- 22:29Speaker 5: this year, there is enough disagreement around the league about
- 22:34Speaker 5: who should be where that pretty much in every mock
- 22:37Speaker 5: draft you follow, there is one guy who slides to
- 22:41Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four that everybody else in a normal.
- 22:45Speaker 4: Year would be saying, well, no way he makes it there.
- 22:48Speaker 5: So could this be a year where the chaos at
- 22:50Speaker 5: the top of the draft benefits the Jaguars with some
- 22:52Speaker 5: elite player. Usually I would say it's great to talk
- 22:56Speaker 5: about not going to happen.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Maybe this year is the year it happens.
- 22:58Speaker 2: Well, And here's something else to remember, you're talking about
- 23:02Speaker 2: four quarterbacks. They're going to get drafted and make four
- 23:05Speaker 2: of the Jaguars, maybe five five, which pushes all the
- 23:09Speaker 2: talent that's at all the other positions down to the Jaguars.
- 23:12Speaker 2: So what John is saying is is dead on the money,
- 23:15Speaker 2: and especially with the quarterback focus in this draft, it's
- 23:19Speaker 2: a great chance of that happening.
- 23:22Speaker 3: Well back in the moment.
- 23:22Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead talking more prospects when we come back.
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- 23:39Speaker 2: As Jaguars Happy Hour from Daily's place on the Jaguars
- 23:42Speaker 2: Digital Network.
- 23:49Speaker 10: When we go back to the playoff game and it's
- 23:52Speaker 10: half time and he's had a rough first ask to
- 23:56Speaker 10: put it mildly, and the head coach is just like,
- 23:59Speaker 10: he's fine, we just gotta do this, We got to
- 24:01Speaker 10: do that, and then it all came together. I don't
- 24:05Speaker 10: know that I saw a better moment in the NFL.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Last Charles Davis, CBS Sports NFL Network love coverage of
- 24:13Speaker 2: the draft coming up, and of course, if you're watching
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- 24:19Speaker 2: outside of the bank. It should be a packed house tonight,
- 24:23Speaker 2: and rain or shine, we'll have it. Gates open at
- 24:25Speaker 2: seven o'clock for the Duval Draft party and welcome back
- 24:29Speaker 2: at Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, John Ozer and Jeff Logoman.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Good to hear from Charles Davis.
- 24:34Speaker 2: The full interview available on Jaguars dot com and the
- 24:37Speaker 2: Official Jaguars Podcast Net. We're talking about the quarterback play
- 24:40Speaker 2: in the playoff game, of course, last year at Carter's game.
- 24:43Speaker 2: That's a fantastic memory, of course, and it's the reason
- 24:46Speaker 2: the Jaguars are drafting twenty four. They got to the
- 24:48Speaker 2: playoffs and they lost in the divisional rounds, so here
- 24:51Speaker 2: they are. It would have been twenty five the Dolphins
- 24:53Speaker 2: forfeited their pick as a penalty, and now it's twenty
- 24:57Speaker 2: four in the NFL Draft tonight in round number one.
- 25:00Speaker 3: So here we go tonight, one hundred and twenty seven players.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Trent Balky said, check all the boxes for a prospect,
- 25:07Speaker 2: so you know, not three hundred and fifty or whatever.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Go to the combine. They narrow this thing down, John
- 25:12Speaker 2: to one twenty seven. It was a specific number that
- 25:15Speaker 2: Trent talked about last week, and that might have surprised
- 25:19Speaker 2: some maybe some folks who aren't following this on an
- 25:21Speaker 2: everyday basis, but that's pretty much a part for the
- 25:24Speaker 2: course number.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Yeah, to clarify a couple of things.
- 25:26Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that they only think one hundred and
- 25:29Speaker 5: twenty seven guys in this draft can play in the NFL.
- 25:31Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that that's all they studied. It doesn't
- 25:34Speaker 5: mean they've overlooked things. It means that as they've done
- 25:37Speaker 5: their draft, there's different areas of the draft, different clusters
- 25:42Speaker 5: of players around the draft first round through seventh round.
- 25:45Speaker 5: They have one hundred and twenty seven total guys that
- 25:48Speaker 5: they consider the ideal picks at those positions that they
- 25:51Speaker 5: would have won on this football team. And from everything
- 25:54Speaker 5: I've heard, Jeff, that's a very common number. One hundred
- 25:56Speaker 5: and twenty five to about one hundred and fifty of
- 25:59Speaker 5: guys do you really feel like you want? Because why
- 26:02Speaker 5: wouldn't you narrow it down to that point?
- 26:03Speaker 2: Well, and one of the reasons why that number is
- 26:06Speaker 2: what it is. You would have certain guys that wouldn't
- 26:09Speaker 2: make the list because of some type of physical condition
- 26:12Speaker 2: or injury that he's had, maybe a failed physical, and
- 26:16Speaker 2: then also some personalities that just don't fit.
- 26:19Speaker 5: You know.
- 26:19Speaker 2: You hear Trent and Doug talking a lot about the
- 26:22Speaker 2: word culture, okay, and what they mean by that is
- 26:25Speaker 2: that the player has to have a certain personality, a
- 26:28Speaker 2: certain work ethic, and a certain way about them to
- 26:31Speaker 2: fit what they're trying to build here. And if they
- 26:33Speaker 2: don't fit that mold, they don't make that list of
- 26:36Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seven.
- 26:37Speaker 4: And it may be even a couple scheme fit.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Sure, if they just don't think a guy can play
- 26:43Speaker 5: a corner in the style that they want to play,
- 26:46Speaker 5: they may just think, you know, for instance, a running
- 26:49Speaker 5: back at the top of the draft, we don't want
- 26:51Speaker 5: to invest running back at a position in the first round.
- 26:55Speaker 4: A kid from Texas.
- 26:56Speaker 5: You know, I don't know how they feel about him,
- 26:58Speaker 5: but you never know if they really think, Okay, this
- 27:00Speaker 5: is just not a year we want to do this.
- 27:02Speaker 5: We need to go other areas. So there's different reasons
- 27:04Speaker 5: why guys come off the board.
- 27:05Speaker 2: By the way, I would never exclude any position because
- 27:08Speaker 2: you feel good about where you're at. Sure, because if
- 27:11Speaker 2: all of a sudden Jamier Gibbs, your guy JP at
- 27:14Speaker 2: Alabama is available in round two. Sure, that guy's unbelievable.
- 27:18Speaker 2: It catches everything out of the backfielding. He's a great
- 27:21Speaker 2: dynamic running back. I mean, so I would never personally
- 27:26Speaker 2: disqualify a position based on where we were at from
- 27:29Speaker 2: a roster standpoint, because have you ever heard of coach say,
- 27:32Speaker 2: you know what, we got too many good tackles or
- 27:35Speaker 2: we got too many good running backs.
- 27:36Speaker 3: You never hear that.
- 27:38Speaker 2: He also said Trent Plalke last week in the Predraft
- 27:41Speaker 2: Luncher that they've got two, three four players that they
- 27:44Speaker 2: really would feel comfortably after you're there.
- 27:45Speaker 3: They should be there at twenty four.
- 27:47Speaker 2: I'm sure they've mocked this thing out John so many times,
- 27:50Speaker 2: different scenarios. If this happens, then this could happen, and
- 27:53Speaker 2: then we could get down there. You really might not
- 27:55Speaker 2: know until about four or five picks above you truly
- 27:59Speaker 2: what's availed and there.
- 28:00Speaker 3: And that's really the question mark about a night like tonight.
- 28:03Speaker 4: Well, he clarified with you they have options.
- 28:06Speaker 5: If they don't they don't go that route, they won't
- 28:09Speaker 5: be stuck without a player that they think can help.
- 28:11Speaker 5: It's why I do wonder what the possibility of them
- 28:15Speaker 5: trading out of that spot are. They've never done it.
- 28:18Speaker 5: The Jaguars have never been without a first round pick.
- 28:20Speaker 5: Twenty four to thirty two is a long way to
- 28:22Speaker 5: go to get out of the first round. But considering that,
- 28:26Speaker 5: I think they want to come out of the first
- 28:28Speaker 5: two or three rounds with a tackle offense, I mean
- 28:32Speaker 5: a offensive lineman, tight end, and cornerback corner. Could they
- 28:38Speaker 5: try to come back and get those three players later
- 28:40Speaker 5: in the draft to add on somebody. I don't think so,
- 28:43Speaker 5: but maybe.
- 28:43Speaker 2: It just depends on what somebody's off yet, you know,
- 28:45Speaker 2: that's what it's all about, all right, final thought?
- 28:49Speaker 3: Pick? How about a pick for twenty four?
- 28:50Speaker 5: John real quick, I've been kind of leaning on Branch,
- 28:54Speaker 5: Brian Branch from Alabama, just because he can come in
- 28:57Speaker 5: and play Nickel move to safety later.
- 29:00Speaker 4: He makes so much sense.
- 29:02Speaker 5: I'm less passionate about that than I was yesterday. Uh,
- 29:06Speaker 5: but for now I'll go with that because that's been
- 29:08Speaker 5: my horse all on.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Jeff, oh Gosh, put you on the spot.
- 29:12Speaker 2: I'll just say I'll give you a position because I
- 29:14Speaker 2: think there's a number of guys I think corner is
- 29:16Speaker 2: gonna be the position, and I'm gonna position Jallas is
- 29:21Speaker 2: gonna slide and they're gonna grab him.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Up at twenty four. I think so you never know.
- 29:25Speaker 3: I'm going Darnell.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Right tackle Tyree Wilson's gonna slide.
- 29:29Speaker 3: How about that? Love him well, Jalen Carter, Yeah, JP,
- 29:34Speaker 3: Jalen all of the above. Arguably the best player in draft.
- 29:37Speaker 3: He is. We're gonna say goodbye to you. John. We
- 29:41Speaker 3: have what in the business is called an upgrade. Jaguars Owners.
- 29:44Speaker 3: Shot Con is gonna join us. Yes, it is.
- 29:47Speaker 4: I will defer.
- 29:48Speaker 3: That's Josh, That's Jeff Logerman. I'm j P. Shadwick.
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- 30:35Speaker 2: Hour and a live look outside of TIAA bank Field
- 30:39Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center. The grass is down on the
- 30:42Speaker 2: practice fields and we are closing in on the grand
- 30:45Speaker 2: opening the Jaguars to get the keys, I believe July first.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Welcome back at Jaguars.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Happy Hour from Daily's place on the other end of
- 30:52Speaker 2: tia bank Field, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logman and Jaguars owners
- 30:55Speaker 2: Shod con Nut. Let's start with that, the Miller Electric Center.
- 30:59Speaker 2: It just changes everything. When you finally see grass on
- 31:02Speaker 2: the field. What a process that bitch.
- 31:04Speaker 11: I know, it's really cool, and it's even better kind
- 31:07Speaker 11: of walking through it than you know, what a difference
- 31:11Speaker 11: it's gonna make. So I'm really excited. Obviously.
- 31:15Speaker 3: It's amazing.
- 31:16Speaker 2: You go back to nineteen ninety five and I remember
- 31:20Speaker 2: practicing and doing conditioning on the outfield of the old
- 31:23Speaker 2: baseball park, and now all of a sudden, this wonderful facility.
- 31:26Speaker 3: It's amazing.
- 31:27Speaker 6: Yeah, we're come along way with baby.
- 31:30Speaker 2: We certainly have all right, So a long way from
- 31:33Speaker 2: the last two years at the number one overall pick,
- 31:36Speaker 2: and now after the playoff run shot, it's the twenty
- 31:39Speaker 2: fourth overall pick. But are your nerves still the same
- 31:43Speaker 2: going into a draft weekend? How do you feel going
- 31:45Speaker 2: into this year's.
- 31:46Speaker 11: Well, no nerves, A very calm. I am super relaxed guy.
- 31:51Speaker 11: I might as well be in a zen yoga camp
- 31:54Speaker 11: right now. But you know, it's so different because I
- 31:58Speaker 11: think we have a great team and when you look
- 32:01Speaker 11: at it, even through free agency, we've lost one starter,
- 32:05Speaker 11: and so.
- 32:08Speaker 6: You feel really good with all the choices.
- 32:10Speaker 11: We have, even though we're going to be picking twenty
- 32:13Speaker 11: fourth in the first round.
- 32:14Speaker 2: You got to feel good about where you are as
- 32:17Speaker 2: an organization, with your coach, your quarterback, your general manager.
- 32:21Speaker 2: It's got to give you a lot of confidence with
- 32:24Speaker 2: where you're at and where you're headed.
- 32:26Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think those are the three key pieces.
- 32:30Speaker 6: In modern NFL, and we got them all.
- 32:33Speaker 11: So it's now about how do you tweak the roster
- 32:37Speaker 11: and make it a shape better, a little bit better
- 32:39Speaker 11: every day.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Jack Warzona shod Khan is with us. We've heard this
- 32:43Speaker 2: word culture a lot in the last couple of years
- 32:45Speaker 2: around here. Certainly going into last season, getting things right again,
- 32:49Speaker 2: earning the trust of the organization. Doug Peterson talked about that,
- 32:52Speaker 2: certainly he's done that, but now you've got to build
- 32:55Speaker 2: upon the baseline. That culture, that baseline, the playoff mentality
- 33:00Speaker 2: is the base for what this team should be moving forward.
- 33:02Speaker 2: How important our culture fits on a draft weekend like this.
- 33:08Speaker 11: I think obviously very important And Trent I think has
- 33:12Speaker 11: been quoted that, you know, the players in the draft,
- 33:15Speaker 11: we got one hundred and twenty seven we think would
- 33:17Speaker 11: be ideal. But you know, culture is an overused word
- 33:22Speaker 11: until you kind of experience it and then you say, oh,
- 33:25Speaker 11: oh yeah, I see what a difference of culture makes
- 33:27Speaker 11: like now, you know, in the hallway today, I was
- 33:30Speaker 11: waiting for the meeting to see the players coming in,
- 33:34Speaker 11: how enthusiastic they are, the fist pumping and talking to
- 33:38Speaker 11: I think we have three new coaches and you know,
- 33:41Speaker 11: they've had careers obviously besides Jacksonville, and you know, to
- 33:46Speaker 11: get their insight that this is so different from wherever
- 33:49Speaker 11: they've been. What a great experience for them. So this
- 33:53Speaker 11: is very different even for the Jaguars. For me, obviously,
- 33:58Speaker 11: you know after eleven years, is I mean I can
- 34:01Speaker 11: you can feel the shift. It's it's much more than
- 34:04Speaker 11: a phraser lingo and one of.
- 34:06Speaker 2: The shifts really, the draft for many years has represented hope,
- 34:11Speaker 2: you know, that you get better, and this year the
- 34:14Speaker 2: feeling I think is so much different and that hey,
- 34:16Speaker 2: look like you talked about, you're just looking to tweak,
- 34:18Speaker 2: to add little components of your to your roster because
- 34:21Speaker 2: you just feel good about where you are as a football.
- 34:24Speaker 11: Team, absolutely, and how you get a little bit better
- 34:29Speaker 11: depth not necessarily starters who are going to come in
- 34:33Speaker 11: and be air salvation, but more like you know, who
- 34:37Speaker 11: are going to be there for us for the long haul.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Jaguars oona shot con is with us. Take us into
- 34:43Speaker 2: some of those pre draft prep meetings. I know you
- 34:45Speaker 2: were involved a little bit in some of those, probably
- 34:48Speaker 2: more than a little bit, I'm guessing, So you know,
- 34:50Speaker 2: take it. Give us what you can about that process.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Working with Trent and Doug and their staffs collectively.
- 34:55Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's you know, highly collaborative.
- 35:00Speaker 11: If you've been in the draft room now, it's like,
- 35:03Speaker 11: you know, I might as well be Houston, NASA, you know,
- 35:07Speaker 11: with all the screens. But more importantly, the really the
- 35:11Speaker 11: electronic the database that you can imagine and who are
- 35:16Speaker 11: the players drafted with these attributes and boom they show
- 35:19Speaker 11: up complete with the cliffs And I'm talking about historically,
- 35:22Speaker 11: so you can compare a current maybe possible player to
- 35:26Speaker 11: historical who has success didn't have it. So you take
- 35:29Speaker 11: that whole collaborative process, and then you get into where
- 35:33Speaker 11: we're going to be picking and who might be on
- 35:36Speaker 11: and how would we decide, you know, number of players,
- 35:40Speaker 11: whoever's on the.
- 35:41Speaker 6: Board, who we would pick?
- 35:42Speaker 11: How you prioritize you want to have as much of
- 35:44Speaker 11: this done before you get into the live action logs.
- 35:49Speaker 2: I think when they picked you they were still using
- 35:50Speaker 2: a chalkboard to make the selections, right, maybe not quite.
- 35:57Speaker 2: I can tell you that it was Hall Tagley nicely
- 36:01Speaker 2: Pete Rose, Yeah, yeah, so it was a while back.
- 36:04Speaker 2: It has been a little bit, all right, So tonight
- 36:06Speaker 2: should be packed house here Daily's place, rain or shine.
- 36:09Speaker 2: The rain is stopped now, which is great news, but
- 36:11Speaker 2: fifty five hundred expected in this place tonight. Certainly we
- 36:14Speaker 2: know what this place has been to the organization in
- 36:16Speaker 2: the city since it's been built. But having this scene
- 36:18Speaker 2: tonight's shot, I know you have to be excited.
- 36:20Speaker 11: About that, Absolutely, I am, and I think this venue
- 36:24Speaker 11: has really I think it's served the city very well.
- 36:27Speaker 11: It's hurtainly has served the Jaguars, you know, everything we
- 36:31Speaker 11: hoped and really more.
- 36:33Speaker 2: When Kenny Chesney was awesome here not long ago, by
- 36:36Speaker 2: the way, that was an incredible concert.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Love it, Shot, thanks for the time, really appreciate it.
- 36:40Speaker 6: Good luck Lace to be here and looking forward to tonight.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Jaguars owner Shot Con with us.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Of course, we take a live look now inside Daily's
- 36:47Speaker 2: Place just downstairs and seven o'clock. The gates open tonight
- 36:51Speaker 2: for the Duval Draft Party twenty twenty three, and the
- 36:56Speaker 2: Jaguars have the twenty fourth overall pick in the NFL
- 37:00Speaker 2: Draft coming up tonight, and of course eight other picks
- 37:04Speaker 2: over the weekend. Always good to hear from JAG's owner
- 37:07Speaker 2: Shod Con.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Excited. Yeah, he said he could be in a yoga
- 37:09Speaker 3: studio right now. That's how relaxed.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't let him fool you, JP, because you
- 37:13Speaker 2: know I asked him before we went on the air,
- 37:15Speaker 2: I said, to you excited, he said, if you've got
- 37:16Speaker 2: blood in your veins, you're excited, Okay, because that's the
- 37:20Speaker 2: reality I mean this is again, and I keep using
- 37:23Speaker 2: this term. The life blood of every franchise is the draft,
- 37:27Speaker 2: and the only way that you can be consistently good
- 37:30Speaker 2: is that you draft and develop and retain. And so
- 37:33Speaker 2: this draft is important just like every other draft for
- 37:36Speaker 2: this franchise, and especially because now that some of the
- 37:40Speaker 2: money that has been spent in recent years in free agency,
- 37:43Speaker 2: sometimes your only option at getting better or to keep
- 37:46Speaker 2: the roster at a solid position is through the draft. Yeah,
- 37:50Speaker 2: draft and develop, you gotta have that, retain and retain,
- 37:54Speaker 2: that's what that's what we have, all of those terms.
- 37:56Speaker 2: And we heard from Trim Blake earlier today in our
- 37:59Speaker 2: draft room conversation. Devon Hamilton was retained and extended today
- 38:03Speaker 2: and I thought he took big steps this past year.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Credit to him because he really worked hard. But that's
- 38:08Speaker 2: a big point for this organization is that that kind
- 38:11Speaker 2: of sets a tone I think for guys when they
- 38:13Speaker 2: show up here and you perform and you improve as
- 38:15Speaker 2: it goes along, you get rewarded at the end. Well,
- 38:18Speaker 2: and look, you know he's gonna make a lot of money,
- 38:20Speaker 2: but you know a lot of money in the National
- 38:22Speaker 2: Football League is what you earn. You know, if you're
- 38:24Speaker 2: a good football player, you know, the question now becomes,
- 38:27Speaker 2: do some of these younger players that you drafted last
- 38:31Speaker 2: year take that next step for this football team, because
- 38:34Speaker 2: this football team is going to need that young that
- 38:37Speaker 2: you the second year players to make a big advancement
- 38:40Speaker 2: for this team to have the success that they want
- 38:43Speaker 2: to have this year. We earned from Daniel Jeremiah NFL
- 38:45Speaker 2: Network a little bit earlier, Charles Davis as well. Joe
- 38:48Speaker 2: Klatt will have coverage on NFL Network. He's also with
- 38:51Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Brian Sexton and visited with him in Kansas
- 38:55Speaker 2: City earlier this week and asked him about the tackles
- 38:58Speaker 2: in the draft.
- 39:00Speaker 12: I do think that there's going to be a run
- 39:01Speaker 12: on the top tackles ahead of them. So if they
- 39:04Speaker 12: wanted one of those guys or coveted one of those guys,
- 39:06Speaker 12: and I'm talking about Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones and
- 39:09Speaker 12: Darnell Wright, if they coveted one of those guys, they
- 39:12Speaker 12: might have to move up, but they don't have to
- 39:13Speaker 12: move up to get what they need. You talked about corner,
- 39:16Speaker 12: you talked about tight end. All of those players I
- 39:19Speaker 12: think will be there.
- 39:22Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Obviously, as we talked, the quarterbacks could go early, that
- 39:26Speaker 2: could slide some guys down. If there's the run middle
- 39:28Speaker 2: of the round, let's see what happens. But the Jaguars
- 39:31Speaker 2: currently at twenty four. It's something interesting and just there
- 39:36Speaker 2: with a question with Brian that Scronsky was never mentioned,
- 39:39Speaker 2: correct from the Northwestern, Okay, Northwestern who was tackled. Many
- 39:42Speaker 2: people thought that he was gonna be the best tackle,
- 39:45Speaker 2: the first lineman off the board in this draft class.
- 39:47Speaker 2: But watching this film, I don't see him being a tackle.
- 39:50Speaker 2: I think this guy is a guard. And well, you know,
- 39:55Speaker 2: he reminds me of In fact, I wrote it down
- 39:57Speaker 2: because he reminds me of Jonah Williams, who was an
- 40:00Speaker 2: Alabama guy the Bengals drafted in the first round. And
- 40:03Speaker 2: the Bengals just drafted or excuse me to signing free
- 40:06Speaker 2: agency from Kansas City, the left tackle that they had there,
- 40:10Speaker 2: and then they're talking about moving Jonah Williams to right
- 40:12Speaker 2: tackle to.
- 40:12Speaker 3: Compete over there.
- 40:14Speaker 2: If you're gonna play left tackle in the National Football League,
- 40:17Speaker 2: you gotta have length, okay, and Skeronsky does not have
- 40:19Speaker 2: a lot of length, and then you better have length
- 40:21Speaker 2: to play left tackle, because you're gonna be facing guys
- 40:24Speaker 2: like Tyree Wilson who is six foot six, six foot seven,
- 40:27Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five pounds and has thirty eight
- 40:30Speaker 2: thirty nine inch sleeve length. And if you have JP,
- 40:32Speaker 2: it's imagine trying to pass block like this. Okay, if
- 40:35Speaker 2: I'm trying to pass block you like this with the
- 40:37Speaker 2: old dinosaur arms. So t rex doesn't work. And it's
- 40:39Speaker 2: an exaggeration because Kronsky has like thirty three arms, but JP,
- 40:43Speaker 2: he's got thirty three inch arms. Okay, I can touch
- 40:46Speaker 2: you from here because I have thirty eight inch sleeves. Okay,
- 40:49Speaker 2: you've got to have the length to play left tackle. Wow,
- 40:53Speaker 2: that's a that's a heck of a reach by you
- 40:55Speaker 2: literally trying to block this t Rex over here trying
- 40:58Speaker 2: to block me.
- 40:59Speaker 3: All right.
- 40:59Speaker 2: So breaking news now in the National Football League, some
- 41:03Speaker 2: big quarterback news. The last day, of course, with Aaron
- 41:06Speaker 2: Rodgers officially traded from the Package to the Jets. But
- 41:09Speaker 2: today the Ravens have reached a five year deal with
- 41:13Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.
- 41:14Speaker 3: Good for them.
- 41:15Speaker 2: I mean, look, Lamar Jackson's an exciting, dynamic player. He
- 41:18Speaker 2: hasn't been able to stay healthy a ton. But I
- 41:21Speaker 2: think with the recent contract that was signed in Philadelphia,
- 41:26Speaker 2: I think maybe tempered Lamar Jackson's expectation because Jalen Hurts
- 41:30Speaker 2: didn't get a completely guaranteed contract and that's what he
- 41:34Speaker 2: was looking for, and that's not what the market was
- 41:35Speaker 2: going to bear for him, especially with the number of
- 41:37Speaker 2: games that he missed. But I'm glad because I think
- 41:40Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson should be a raven and he's a tremendous
- 41:43Speaker 2: football player, and it's good for them now they can
- 41:46Speaker 2: move forward and concentrate on other things and other aspects
- 41:50Speaker 2: of their organization. The latest reporting, no official numbers are
- 41:54Speaker 2: out yet, but Justina Anderson is reporting the league sources
- 41:58Speaker 2: that of the total guarantee portion as one hundred and
- 42:01Speaker 2: eighty five million dollars for Lamar Jackson's and I'm sure
- 42:04Speaker 2: that Look, the recent contract by Jillen Hursts, I'm sure
- 42:07Speaker 2: was a little bit, you know. And here's the weird thing.
- 42:09Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar Jackson is his own agent. I'm it's right,
- 42:12Speaker 2: that's that's odd. I mean, it's very odd. And I'm
- 42:15Speaker 2: not saying that he can't do it. And I'm sure
- 42:17Speaker 2: that he's getting a lot of great advice and should
- 42:21Speaker 2: get a lot of great advice. But that's a weird
- 42:24Speaker 2: position to be in if you're doing your own contract.
- 42:27Speaker 2: A little more on the Aaron Rodgers situation. Officially traded
- 42:30Speaker 2: from the Packers to the Jets. He was actually on
- 42:32Speaker 2: the practice field today. His intro press conference was yesterday.
- 42:36Speaker 2: The Jets got Rogers and the twenty twenty three first
- 42:39Speaker 2: round pick and a twenty twenty three fifth round pick.
- 42:42Speaker 2: The Packers get the first round pick this year, number thirteen,
- 42:45Speaker 2: a second round pick this year, a sixth round pick
- 42:47Speaker 2: this year, and a conditional second round pick next year
- 42:52Speaker 2: that couldn't become a first If Rogers plays sixty five
- 42:54Speaker 2: percent of the plays this season, that's gonna be an
- 42:57Speaker 2: interesting watch. You know, will airon Rogers be committed to
- 43:01Speaker 2: the organization As far as the practice days that are
- 43:05Speaker 2: not mandatory.
- 43:07Speaker 3: I think that he needs to.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Commit himself to the Jets organization and show up for
- 43:11Speaker 2: all those things if he wants to end up making
- 43:13Speaker 2: a lot of friends in the locker room. Those are
- 43:16Speaker 2: the biggest NFL news, of course, Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson and
- 43:20Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers are now apparently settled in their respective places,
- 43:24Speaker 2: and they were only a couple of weeks probably away
- 43:26Speaker 2: from the schedule release. That's right around the corner too well.
- 43:30Speaker 2: And look, the NFL, I'm sure was looking for some
- 43:35Speaker 2: resolution to both of these situations because that impacts the schedule.
- 43:39Speaker 2: I mean, look, if Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback of
- 43:42Speaker 2: the New York Jets, I mean you're talking about the
- 43:44Speaker 2: Jets having some serious primetime football games. If Lamar Jackson
- 43:48Speaker 2: is the quarterback of the Ravens, that's a consideration with
- 43:50Speaker 2: schedule makers as well, you know. So I'm glad that
- 43:53Speaker 2: both of them were resolved. And I guarantee that Roger
- 43:56Speaker 2: Goodell and the league office was they might have been
- 43:59Speaker 2: putting a little phone call in here or there to
- 44:02Speaker 2: both organizations while all three organizations, the Ravens, the Jets,
- 44:06Speaker 2: and the Packers to make sure that this stuff got
- 44:09Speaker 2: moved along. Because look, you want to have all the
- 44:12Speaker 2: focus tonight on the draft. You don't want to have
- 44:15Speaker 2: speculation about Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson could he end
- 44:20Speaker 2: up with another football team. This makes the focused on
- 44:23Speaker 2: what's happening tonight, and that's the NFL Draft and that's
- 44:26Speaker 2: where the focus should be at well. A lot of
- 44:29Speaker 2: AFC South teams have some draft equity high in this
- 44:33Speaker 2: first round, and most of them, if not all, three
- 44:36Speaker 2: of the other ones, could be looking at quarterback early
- 44:38Speaker 2: in this draft. Of course, the Jaguars are the best
- 44:41Speaker 2: set up at that position with the Trevor Lawrence. Let's
- 44:44Speaker 2: see what happens at Indianapolis. Certainly Houston at number two
- 44:46Speaker 2: could be in play. They also have another first round pick,
- 44:49Speaker 2: and Tennessee do they go for a quarterback?
- 44:53Speaker 3: What's the future hold there? With a new decision maker
- 44:56Speaker 3: in charge.
- 44:57Speaker 2: In Nashville, you could have Trevor Lawrence and three rookies
- 45:03Speaker 2: and the rest of the AFC South. I mean it
- 45:06Speaker 2: could be that, and I think that that's a real
- 45:09Speaker 2: realistic expectation. I think it would take Tennessee maybe needing
- 45:13Speaker 2: to trade up.
- 45:14Speaker 3: Maybe not.
- 45:15Speaker 2: If Hendon Hooker is a guy, he may end up
- 45:17Speaker 2: being there where they're at, but it may require them
- 45:20Speaker 2: to trade up. I think Indianapolis is locked in on
- 45:23Speaker 2: a quarterback. I think it probably is Levice, and we
- 45:26Speaker 2: know that Houston is a possibility.
- 45:30Speaker 3: I think CJ. Young's CJ. Trout or.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Buying moreph the two of them together. But I think
- 45:42Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting. You know, we haven't
- 45:44Speaker 2: really mentioned quarterbacks yet, but the quarterbacks, the only part
- 45:47Speaker 2: that we mentioned about them is that having four or
- 45:51Speaker 2: five quarterbacks that could get you know, that could end
- 45:53Speaker 2: up getting drafted prior to the Jaguars pick at twenty
- 45:56Speaker 2: four means that there's gonna be a push of guys
- 46:01Speaker 2: that normally would not be available with that talent level
- 46:04Speaker 2: that the Jaguars are going to be able to pick
- 46:06Speaker 2: from it twenty four. And that's a good thing, the
- 46:09Speaker 2: more quarterbacks, because look, the reality is is that teams
- 46:12Speaker 2: are going to reach for quarterbacks and that's perfect. That's
- 46:14Speaker 2: exactly what you want if you're a team that already
- 46:17Speaker 2: has a quarterback, because it pushes more talent down to
- 46:20Speaker 2: you at your picks. And so the Jaguars in a
- 46:23Speaker 2: great position. Every franchise wants to be in the position
- 46:27Speaker 2: that the Kansas City Chiefs are, the Buffalo Bills, the
- 46:30Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, the Los Angeles Chargers, and that's the position
- 46:35Speaker 2: of feeling that you have or knowing that you have
- 46:38Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, because it makes it a lot easier
- 46:41Speaker 2: to draft players when you're in that situation, Yeah, and
- 46:44Speaker 2: you better have one just to compete in the AFC.
- 46:47Speaker 2: You mentioned some of those AFC teams. It is oh
- 46:49Speaker 2: Steers Row deep, It's deep in the NFC. I mean,
- 46:53Speaker 2: come on, NFC, where are you at? I mean, you
- 46:55Speaker 2: got to get some quarterbacks. And here's the crazy thing.
- 46:59Speaker 2: Is the the NFC going to add a quarterback this year?
- 47:02Speaker 2: I mean think about it. I mean, has there been
- 47:06Speaker 2: any talk with the four top quarterbacks in this year's draft?
- 47:10Speaker 2: Has there been any talk about an NFC team possibly
- 47:15Speaker 2: getting one of those four?
- 47:16Speaker 5: No?
- 47:17Speaker 2: No, So the NFC is going to continue to be
- 47:21Speaker 2: quarterback deficial. Remember the Bears traded out, they traded back
- 47:24Speaker 2: so with Carolina. Yeah, so because they like their guy
- 47:27Speaker 2: fields well, panthers and pants. But I mean that's one
- 47:32Speaker 2: why it's just amazing to me that how can you
- 47:37Speaker 2: have that disparity between conferences? I mean really, I mean,
- 47:43Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen Hurts is a tremendous player. Don't don't
- 47:45Speaker 2: get me wrong.
- 47:46Speaker 3: I love him.
- 47:47Speaker 2: He's an excellent football player. But now, I mean Aaron
- 47:50Speaker 2: Rodgers left the NFC and now is a part of
- 47:52Speaker 2: the AFC. Got to keep up with the j AFC
- 47:56Speaker 2: Quarterback League right now. Hey Busy nine, Tonight's final moments
- 47:59Speaker 2: of Jaguars Happy. We're glad you've joined us on ten
- 48:01Speaker 2: ten am and Jaguars dot com and Jaguars Social media, Twitter, Facebook,
- 48:05Speaker 2: and YouTube. Tonight coming up at seven thirty, we'll have
- 48:09Speaker 2: our pre draft show on Jaguars dot Com. We'll count
- 48:12Speaker 2: down to the draft, plenty of special guests, plenty of
- 48:14Speaker 2: content and get you ready for the draft today to
- 48:17Speaker 2: o'clock tonight.
- 48:18Speaker 3: You, Frank Frangi and who else is on the Draft
- 48:21Speaker 3: radio show tonight? One time?
- 48:22Speaker 2: Is all that a Well, I think you're gonna come
- 48:24Speaker 2: on and visit with us for a little bit, so,
- 48:26Speaker 2: I mean that's a good thing. But you know, I
- 48:28Speaker 2: think we're gonna have different people on looking forward to it,
- 48:31Speaker 2: looking forward to the draft. I've become a little bit
- 48:33Speaker 2: of a draft junkie just because you know, you watch
- 48:35Speaker 2: film on guys. You want to see where kind of
- 48:37Speaker 2: where your assessment lines up with some of the teams picking,
- 48:42Speaker 2: you know, and just let me throw this one last
- 48:44Speaker 2: position goes out there because because we haven't talked about
- 48:47Speaker 2: it yet, and I can't believe JP you didn't have
- 48:49Speaker 2: it on the list. It is to talk about tight ends.
- 48:53Speaker 2: Tight end, we have not talked about tight ends. You
- 48:55Speaker 2: think it's in play at twenty four. I think it's
- 48:58Speaker 2: absolutely in play at twenty four because kin Kid is
- 49:01Speaker 2: a great receiving tight end. Mayor is a great He
- 49:04Speaker 2: reminds me of Jason Witten, the guy that played it
- 49:08Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys for so long.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Excellent receiver, excellent blocker. Love that guy.
- 49:13Speaker 2: And then Georgia of course has Darnell Washington, who's like
- 49:16Speaker 2: Land of the Giants tight end.
- 49:18Speaker 3: And you already picked a cornerback at twenty four.
- 49:21Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I mean, tight end is
- 49:23Speaker 2: in play, and if Michael Mahyer is there, it would
- 49:27Speaker 2: be hard not to draft him. He's young and he's
- 49:32Speaker 2: still I mean he's young, but he's such a physical
- 49:35Speaker 2: presence in the game, both as a blocker and as
- 49:39Speaker 2: a receiver at a lot of positions.
- 49:42Speaker 3: We'll see what happens tonight.
- 49:44Speaker 2: Gates open at seven o'clock for the du Vall draft
- 49:46Speaker 2: party at Daily's Place or thanks to John Ozier, Jaguars
- 49:49Speaker 2: owner shot kind of course joining us for Jeff Flagerman
- 49:52Speaker 2: and our entire crew on JP Shadwick.
- 49:54Speaker 3: We'll catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
- 49:56Speaker 3: the Jaguars Digital Network
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