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Xbox Lives: Xbox Project Helix, Highguard Shutdown & Firefly Tease · Multiple Nerdgasm

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But hey, Matt, how are you? Oh, we're recording.
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Oh, yeah. I didn't notice the light.
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Come on, I'm good. How are you?
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I'm not bad. Good, good, good.
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The worst thing this week is that my beard is too short now.
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I know you did a terrible job. I did.
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And I was just saying those shells of yours.
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Yeah, I know, I know. And then it was like, you got a
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bit longer and I'm like, I'm want to trim it, but I don't
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want to trim it manually because I'm lazy.
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And I was did this thing that I always do where I looked at the
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guards and I was like, I'll just use the longest guard.
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It's probably fine. It's not fun.
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It's never fine. How do I forget this every time?
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Welcome to Multiple Nerdghazen, a comedy show about all things
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nerdy. It's not.
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It's this short. This is not normal.
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They advertise all of these shaver things with like all of
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these settings. They don't do anything
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different, they all do the same. They just figures they get.
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They just remove your fucking beard and then for some reason I
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keep doing it. So anyway, yeah.
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We've all made that same mistake.
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Yeah, Excuse me for you. I've made this mistake 10 times
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in my life. Like, how?
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How do I not? And then as soon as I did it, I
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was like, you know this Matt, you know this you.
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Know you'll learn one day. And now Larry calls me Shavey
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beard boy. So she said she knew it was me.
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She just knew that she didn't, she said.
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She said it looked different, but I knew it was you.
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I just knew you didn't want people to think you were old
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anymore. And I was like, all right, kid.
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Yeah, I do not Like I look at old photos that I've missed how
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my bead used to be red, a lot of red.
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Yeah, actually one of the thumbnail I did the other week,
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you and I as legally distinct Mando and Grogu, we have, we
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have pretty good beards in that. And I was like.
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I did notice that. We have a lot less grey in that
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for some reason. Thank you very much.
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Whichever fucking GPT generated that I can't remember.
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The younger self. Yeah.
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No, it's, it's appreciated. They're they're designed to make
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us happy. Yes, our little little LMSLLMS.
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And that's the thing that why people need to make sure that
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they pay attention to what they're doing because they are
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just designed to make you happy. They're ridiculous.
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I this week I the Formula One starts right.
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Well now today it's, it's in your country.
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It's our wow, it's our country, but I'm not there.
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It's in Melbourne and so I we have a Formula One fantasy
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league with amongst family and friends as we always do and I
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was like I wonder what Claude thinks would be some good picks
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for the F1 fantasy. So I said hey Claude, what
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drivers and constructors should I pick for the F1 fantasy
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league? Give me some tips.
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It is not aware of who's driving for fucking what, I can tell you
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that, but it will confidently tell you the wrong information.
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We need to get him specifics. But it was like, oh, you should
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pick this, maybe this, this, this.
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I said, oh OK, cool. So this is what I've got so far.
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And I told her I've got these drivers, these constructors.
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And it was like, Oh yeah, you've, but you've got 2 drivers
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for this team involved. And I was like, I'm like mate,
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like Hulkenberg doesn't drive for Haas anymore for starters.
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And then and then it goes and then it goes, Oh yeah, I know,
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sorry, I made a mistake. And it's like, well, how can I
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trust anything you say when you're so confidently saying the
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wrong thing? Like I've had them confidently
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give me the wrong date and when I've called them out on it,
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they've gone no, this is the date.
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And then I've called them out again, they go, Oh yeah, sorry,
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it is the state. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said
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that. It's like, yeah, man.
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It's just that it makes you wonder like when, when it's
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telling you stuff like that and you know it's wrong, that it's
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very obvious. But then at other times when
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you're not super not as familiar with the information and you go,
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OK, that sounds plausible, right?
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That should make you skeptical because now, now that that's
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happened, I'm going to go through a period where I don't
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really trust what it says, but it is very convincing.
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And then after a while, you kind of go, Oh, yeah, OK.
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Well, you've heard about those lawyers getting fired for
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basically writing up motions, but.
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Shit doesn't exist. Laws and that don't exist, it
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goes. Yeah, which is a big no no in
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court. Yes, it should be.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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It's just so funny. It's it's like, it's like that
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the book about the Elon Musk book, when I started reading it
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and it was telling me all this stuff and I'm like, OK, you got
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no context for a lot of this stuff.
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Like, you know, things and things in South Africa, you
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know, things about manufacturing or whatever, fine, fine.
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But it gets to something I do know about, like the, you know,
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the DND and the gaming stuff. And it's, and he's saying the,
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the book is saying things that I know are incorrect.
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And I'm like, I cannot trust this book about anything now
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because it's getting the things I'm familiar with wrong.
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I can't trust that it's not getting the things I'm
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unfamiliar with wrong. So I just was like, I can't read
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this book anymore. Like I I don't, I don't believe
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anything this book says now. Well, it was coming from Elon
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Musk. Why would you believe anything?
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Yeah, and but it's like it's once, as soon as you notice it
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in something, you do know, It's like, I can't now.
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Oh, I did. There was one thing that he has
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said that I've someone did some research into and turned out to
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be true. But it's true for not the reason
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you think. He won a Quake tournament or the
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Quake or Doom tournament back in the day.
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Sure, that was for money. Oh, OK all.
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Right at the time it was who have whoever had the best
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Internet connection one and because of where he's working at
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AT1 connection and so quite good.
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Yeah, early PayPal or whatever. Yeah, and they even not even
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remember Thresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, he came out and said, yeah, I remember playing him,
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but he wasn't good. Yeah.
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So he did win a his work did win a competition for money, but
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it's not because he had the best.
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But. Not because he was the best
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player. Yeah, yeah.
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Unlike he's in Diablo. And what's another thing he
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claims to be good in? Path of Exile.
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Yeah, Path of Exile. Yeah, Speaking of games, still
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playing Dune Awakening. Loving it, Casta.
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Oh yeah. In addition to my my boon the
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other week I got my little, my little, what do you call it?
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I came into some some resources and some money thanks to Funcom.
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And I got all my ship back after I got eaten by a worm thanks to
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a server issue like thumbs up, which they then apologize for.
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And no. And and not only that, last
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weekend as an apology for all of the fuss, it was a quadruple
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resource weekend. Oh, so I just got out of mind
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the fuck out of things and I've got a ton of stuff so.
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You really came out on top with this.
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I did and this game's great. I'm building a new base up on a
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Cliff face about top for Cliff. It's great and I've nearly got
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an ornithopter. I've got there's a particular
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resource I need to finish it and I haven't haven't gotten that
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yet. It's in a very a radiated area
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and I just need to figure out how to do that.
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I don't like looking up guides for things if if I don't know
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I'm doing this one without looking up too much stuff.
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So yeah. Well, I look forward to finally
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being able to play it with you and I'll build my base next to
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yours. Not too close to mine.
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Your base tends to look like a little hovel.
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You're going to drag down the property prices up on my Cliff.
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I'll build what the tutorial says and that's it.
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Yeah, we could do. We could do a private server for
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that for for it. Well, you really don't.
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You really don't want me to live next to you do.
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You no, no, you could have a private server and I'll have a
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private server. No, although I want a public
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server and it's fine because it's not heavily PvP.
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So. Yeah, I think it already depends
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on the server. Sometimes you get lucky and
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people just. And it is nice to bump into
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people like like the other day, like literally last night I was
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playing for a bit and then I passed somebody coming the other
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way down a, down a, a road. I.
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Think someone was looking at Arc Raiders which is one of those
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extraction looters stuff and he was saying on PC people are a
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lot nicer than they are on console.
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They seem to come out shooting whereas PC they tend to go
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friendly. Friendly and.
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There are areas that are PvP I should say, but I haven't PvP D
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anybody in them as far as I know.
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Anyway, love it. I don't think there's anything
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else particularly interesting I need to say about it other than
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I just. I fucking love it.
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I don't know what it is. More people should play it.
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Yeah, it's like all the things I liked about Code and Exiles and
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all the things I liked about Destiny and all the things I
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like about these other games all smushed together.
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And it's just, this is a really good comment for me and I really
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hope it doesn't go away because there's a bad trend lately.
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We've got an article in here about High Guard that I think
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got review bombed when it came out and I don't remember why.
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Do you remember any details about that?
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I remember at the start, this is what ended The Game Awards.
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I don't know if it was last year or the year before.
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This was the big final announcement.
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Was this game and everyone's gone.
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It's just another Overwatch or a.
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OK, so it was just that it wasn't and people weren't
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interested because it's it's got released in January and they're
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just shutting the whole fucking thing down like and this.
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Isn't the first week something like this has happened?
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No, no. Because yeah, that's because.
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Excuse me, I think we're even talking about this last week.
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It's one of these games that people have their game that they
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go to because you've got to commit to it and, and.
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It's not this. Apparently it's.
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Not this. People didn't like this.
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So what happens is the first week or two, everyone jumps on
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to go and have a look and see what it is.
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And then they go, Yep, this isn't for me.
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And then they go back to what they're familiar with.
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Yeah, you need to with, with these types of shooters, you
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need to keep up with all the characters, how to play and all
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of that, it's thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's got to be your game. It's got to become your game
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that you play. Yeah, like.
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And you only play one of them. What was the What was the one by
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gearbox? That one didn't go very well
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either. Yeah, I forget and then with
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that one. Oh, and different lawbreakers.
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The Cliffy Cliffy beast 1. Yep, I played that at PACs or
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E3. I think I played that at E3.
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It came out and then it just went away.
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Like it's just, yeah, it's tough with these things.
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It's just so weird to me because this is like such a big, it's
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like a AAA game, massive fucking budget.
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And then just two months in, they're just like, Nah, it's
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like, man, that's fucked. Like yeah they really gave it no
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time to try and like 3 months is not long I reckon even.
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Because what they say, they just couldn't get a player base like.
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This is the most critical they feel saying like they should
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have come in thinking, right, this is going to be hard for
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like the first six months. Let's give it time.
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Let's and try and build on what's there.
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Yeah, Find their player base, build what people want, and then
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hopefully we can do what others have done.
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But no, they just threw their hands off the air straight away.
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Yeah, it seems weird to me. Yeah.
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Since launch, more than two million players have played have
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stepped into high High Guards world.
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You shared feedback, created content, and many believed in
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what we're building. For that, we're deeply grateful.
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Despite the passion, hard work of those who worked on High
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Guard, the game was unable to build a play a sustainable
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player base to support it long term.
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You don't. Do you know that after 2-3
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months, maybe two months, maybe they do.
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I just. Well, I think at one stage there
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was like 350 people playing. Yeah, it's not good, is it?
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Which is a bit of an idea, but you've got to give it a shot.
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Like why would you spend millions and millions of dollars
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and then just. I mean, people stopped playing
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Dune Awakening. I don't know how bad it got with
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Dune Awakening, but people stopped playing it and there was
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a concern that that was also going to suffer this kind of
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fate. But then this new update that
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they put out has brought people back.
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See I know my server, my server went from very quiet to like
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fucking bases everywhere when this new update came out.
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See, I knew that June wouldn't disappear as quickly.
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Because fun comes bigger. Fun comes good and also like
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with Conan, Conan stayed away and I was still doing updates
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for quite some time and I didn't think it was that great again.
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I I like Conan, but I agree, like the amount of content and
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the the longevity of that game is it is pretty, pretty amazing.
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Like they pump out content, they pump it like even there's DLC,
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but there's also free stuff they put out a lot like they, yeah,
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they do a really good job of like maintenance.
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Like what's that other that Mutant year 0 game that Funcom
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also makes that's still going on too.
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Yeah, people playing that. Yeah, and this.
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So whoever developed this, they put millions into it and then
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just, I think there's going to be a tax writer for something to
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be able to just walk away from. The IT does seem weird.
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It does seem very strange. Like we gave it, we gave it 40-5
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days. That's a shock.
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We'll just write this off on tax or something because it's a
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loss. Yeah.
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Well, guys, that's it. We tried.
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Did we try? How hard did we try?
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Yeah, yeah, at least you can say it lasted 45 days longer, 31
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days longer than Concorde's 14 days lifespan, which is the last
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game like this. That one's wild.
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That 14 days is wild. Yeah, Like, yeah, Well, very
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sad, I suppose. I don't care about that kind of
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game. But.
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But I don't like, I don't know, it's like hearing this stuff.
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It just seems like such a waste of time and fucking money to
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like to make something like this and then be like, well that
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didn't work. That didn't work.
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We'll see you. They started firing everyone
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off, laying off everyone very quickly after launch.
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Yeah, it's not. Which is never a good sign.
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That's comedy games though, I think.
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But I think though it was quite big, the number of people they
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were laying off. I'm trying to remember when this
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was announced. The game.
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Yeah. Was it last year or the year
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before? I mean, this is not a game that
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I'm super familiar with, but that makes sense because I don't
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like Overwatch so. Yeah, or I remember.
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Playing Overwatch again right? Didn't some update come out for
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Overwatch and everyone's like Overwatch is back?
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Oh yeah, Overwatch never really went away.
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Overwatch is a lot of people's safety place these days.
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Yeah, OK. But Team Fortress 2 is still
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going on. That was that was a fun game
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back in the day. I don't think I would play it
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now. I don't think I played it very
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much. Then the other one that just
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came out that apparently is it's unclear what the future of it
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is, is Marathon. Marathon just came out and that
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also apparently people aren't into well.
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Remember just the Ned. The new bungee.
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One, I called that out last week that it's not going to do well.
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Well, apparently it's not doing well or or I'm not yeah, there's
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people aren't aren't happy with it and then.
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There's only so much she can do. It's the same formulas.
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Yeah. Arc Raiders, which has actually
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just come out recently, which is doing well, which is an
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extraction looter. Like they're all the.
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Same people saying is anyone feeling unsure about this game?
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And then, yeah, yeah, it's an impression.
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It's good, the bad. It's not going to appeal to a
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very wide audience. Yeah.
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Anyway, it's yeah, we'll, we'll talk more about that, I guess,
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in the weeks to come. There's more to see, but.
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People who play World of Warcraft, yeah.
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And they'll always be oh, this is going to come and replace
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World of Warcraft, and it never does.
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Were they? Yeah, It's the Wow Classic
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servers still going. Have you still got both kinds of
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Wow? Yeah.
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I think so, yeah. I don't play it so but I'm.
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Pretty sure. I think if I was going to play
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it, I would want the classic because my memories of World of
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Warcraft are from very early on. And then I lost interest.
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And then when I go into like I did try to get back into it
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years later and I was like, ah, that's a little different.
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And I don't, I don't know. I want the the version that I
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remember. It's a bit janky.
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You got to travel everywhere by blimp.
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Yeah, yeah, from Tilde Rassell to to the mainland.
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Yeah, I think though that's. A good game at the.
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Time still exist, yeah. I just know I'll never play it
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because I I'm just too afraid I'd become addicted.
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I don't think. I don't think I would.
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Though no, I've whatever it is about wow, I had fun with it.
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Like Dave and I did this big adventure where we ran across
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the fucking continent to get to the city, and that was fun.
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That was a fun evening adventure.
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But the game itself, what the, you know, the game loop in Wow
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is just not appealing to me. Like the, the, the way you grind
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to get loot in that versus sorry to talk about doing Awakening
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again, but there's just something about the, the game,
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like the loop of doing Awakening that appeals to me that like I
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said this about Conan Exiles too, Conan Exiles, when you do
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combat and you push a button, you go, OK, like you assign on
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APC, you assign the numbers usually to an action, like a
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skill, and then you push buttons and you just push the numbers
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and then you chain things. I don't know that my brain's
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like, Nah, I'm good. I don't like that shit.
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In Awakening, you get a gun and you fucking shoot.
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Yeah, you first person shoot or third person shoot and that's
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that. I don't know, I like those more.
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Yeah. It's very like I feel more
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connected to what my character's doing.
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Yeah. Oh, it's terrible of combat in
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that game. In Conan.
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Conan is clunky as fuck. As far as Conan that's the
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thing. I'm like how is this game still
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going on? I feel like the combat is
19:20
terrible in it. Like I know people must like it,
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but I think the combat in Conan Exiles is terrible.
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Yes. But Despite that, I do still
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really like that game, yes, so. I liked my little house, which
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is just my bed on the ground. Yeah, I think everything except
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the combat in Conan Exiles is great.
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Yeah, I used to try and run past all combat because.
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But you can't because you need the resources.
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Yeah, that's no, I used to. I I found a path where I could
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run and get copper. Oh no, I mean you need like
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skins of things. Oh yeah.
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Yeah, and you have to collect. I don't want to use the S word
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helpers. You hire helpers to work.
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Wink, wink. Don't pay them a lot.
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You pay them in gruel and you force them to push the wheel of
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pain around. But yes.
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Did you have the version when you could see your Dick?
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I can't remember, I no, I don't think so, no.
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It's only me then. No, because I bought it in
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Australia I think. Yeah, I've got it in Australia
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and it came with some. Oh, maybe that's the problem.
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Maybe I didn't buy it in Australia.
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I can't, I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.
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Which is weird because why no Dicks in that?
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But then there's Dicks all over the place in Cyberpunk, there's
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D&V and everything all over the place.
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Yeah, there's D&V in. Then you can decide what they
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all look like in Kernan. Yeah, no, I'll sell a punk too.
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Yeah, opinion. As long as you don't use them.
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As long as you don't see them being used, you're OK.
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Used for what? Anything.
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Anything. Yeah.
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I could open my beer. No, that's it.
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You can. Have them, you just can't use
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them. Yeah, America, you can't have
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them. Just not.
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Not at all. No.
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You can shoot people in the face in a video game, but you can't
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look at their penis. I don't want to see a Dick, just
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blood. Yeah.
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Old games? Well, it's not that old.
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I guess it is old. How old is Assassin's Creed
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Black Flag? It's probably older than I want
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to know at this point. Probably at least a decade.
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Fuck off. All right, well.
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Least. It's a it was a Xbox launch
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title, wasn't it? Xbox One launch title.
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Now I'm just remembering. Is that right?
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I don't not sure. It was an early one anyway.
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Release date was yeah, 13 years ago.
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Well, 12 years ago, 29th of October 2013.
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Right, Well, it's getting a remake or a resynced a remaster
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or whatever. This is what they should have
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really done for remember, what was the name of that game that
22:37
they came out with that was basically the pirate ships and
22:40
stuff? Oh, skull and bones.
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Skull and bones that this is what they should have done
22:46
instead of skull and bones. Quadruple a fucking Oh yeah,
22:49
quad quad a fucking whatever horseshit they came out.
22:52
Quadruple a first. Quadruple a game that you can't
22:56
actually even get off the boat. Yeah, no, look, I Black Flag, I
23:02
played a bit of and it was really good.
23:04
I don't know why I didn't play more of it.
23:06
I enjoyed it, I really did. I enjoyed the sailing and the
23:10
upgrading my boat and. See, Black Flag is just before I
23:15
feel like my favorite era of Assassin's Creed is like
23:19
Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, those 3 less so Valhalla
23:26
actually, I think I really enjoyed Origins.
23:29
I fucking loved Odyssey and then Valhalla was OK.
23:33
And so I think this one kind of slightly predates that where
23:36
it's a bit more like like, you know, collecting things less
23:43
like. Yes, it is.
23:44
Open. Worldly.
23:45
This is this is probably the last one before after this day
23:51
the games were terrible. After this.
23:54
After this they went terrible. Oh, Syndicate was after this.
23:57
Syndicate was after this. Yeah, you're right.
23:59
You're right. Yes.
24:00
Syndicate I couldn't get into. Yeah, after this, everything
24:02
went downhill until they went to Origin and changed a lot.
24:06
Yeah. Origins I loved.
24:10
Yeah, running around in Egypt and finding all those.
24:14
Yeah, it's actually enjoyable to go and find stuff there.
24:17
Yeah, so I think, I know, I know you can sail around in Black
24:20
Flag. Maybe it's more open world than
24:21
I recall, or maybe this version of it will be.
24:24
That would be good if they could make it more like.
24:27
Yeah, I know in 3 was there was the sailing part, but it was
24:33
just missions. So you drained the old mission?
24:35
There's the one in America, right?
24:36
Yeah. Yeah, this one was very much
24:39
you. You're on the boat most of the
24:40
time. Yeah, OK.
24:44
Well anyway, I mean this looks interesting. 60FPS update for
24:49
Unity as well. Oh, OK, interesting.
24:52
I mean not going to play Unity again.
24:54
No, that was not good either. That's the French one as unity.
24:59
That's what that's what I said. Like after Black Flag, that's
25:01
when they all started to go downhill.
25:04
Yeah, but Speaking of Ubisoft games, I have been playing more
25:10
Star Wars Outlaws. Oh, and how are you going with
25:13
it? I like it, but I don't like it
25:17
as much as doing awakening. So it's like my but I have been
25:23
playing it a bit. I've been playing it because I
25:24
can play it on this. Well I can play Doon awakening
25:26
on this too, but I don't like to.
25:28
Yeah, no, you want a big screen for that.
25:31
Yeah, but there's also because I'm, I've played Doon Awakening
25:35
exclusively with mouse and keyboard.
25:37
Yeah. So I'm not, I don't have the
25:38
muscle memory yet for console control.
25:41
Yeah. You can't transfer over
25:43
something like that just. Once I've been playing, yeah,
25:45
because I'm so far in the game now I need to be effective.
25:49
Yeah, I can't just fuck around. Oh, I guess I could go back to
25:51
an earlier area and learn the controls, but anyway.
25:54
But yeah, Outlaws is good. It's fine.
25:58
It's just like. Right now that I don't have to
26:02
worry as much about stealth. Did you get far in it the first
26:05
time? I got probably about halfway
26:08
through like I didn't, I don't. Think I finished way further
26:11
than me. Though maybe I did finish it, I
26:14
don't know. It's hard.
26:15
It's hard to know because it's it's Ubisoft.
26:18
There's so much happening in those games, sometimes you
26:20
forget what the story actually is.
26:23
Yeah, that's the thing. I think I'm enjoying it.
26:26
There is the there is a lot and I'm my when I play it, I go.
26:32
I really want to put my game brain power into the other game
26:37
that I like, which is doing one thing.
26:39
So I'm kind of like just pottering around in it.
26:41
It doesn't feel like I'm actually, I'm not all in on it,
26:44
you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:48
That's good. Like, I don't understand.
26:53
Well, I'm not playing the version that came out originally
26:57
so I guess I shouldn't say, but I don't.
27:00
It's not as bad as everyone said it was at launch, so presumably
27:03
they fixed some stuff because I think I think it's fine.
27:06
Like I think it was just mainly the stealth thing that I didn't
27:08
like about the game and it was look, some levels were it would
27:11
be just not game over. There was actually, it was a bit
27:15
like that. There was a bit like that, yeah.
27:19
So. Anyway, there's and I think with
27:23
a lot of people, with Star Wars, when you're playing a bounty
27:25
hunter, you're thinking about just running around and shooting
27:28
people. Yeah, no, it's, it's Assassin's
27:31
Creed in Star Wars is yeah, basically, yeah.
27:34
But like I said, I think I said this before last week, I I knew
27:37
that already. So I wasn't like disappointed or
27:41
expecting anything else. So maybe that's part of it too.
27:44
It's just, yeah, no, I knew that's what it was, Yeah.
27:48
Yeah, you knew what you're getting into.
27:49
Your hopes weren't particularly high with it.
27:52
Yeah, Lyra saw me playing it. She likes what's his name?
27:56
Outlaws. Is it Kiff or is Kiff?
27:59
Is his name Kiff? Kiff is from.
28:03
You mean? What's the little guy's name?
28:06
Outlaws, Kip. But I haven't played it since
28:11
launch. I have no idea.
28:12
What is that little creature's name?
28:14
Outlaws creature. Yeah, what is his name?
28:23
I've got a fucking picture of him.
28:26
Nicks, Nicks. Nicks, Nicks.
28:28
Kip. Kip and Kip is one of those is
28:31
from fucking Futurama. Nicks yeah, she Lira loves him.
28:38
She's like pet him, pet him again.
28:39
I. Think there's an achievement for
28:43
Pet Him, isn't there? Oh, maybe I got one for
28:46
something the other day I got, it's actually the first
28:48
achievement I've gotten in about 6 months.
28:49
And I was like, oh, Lee could be proud.
28:54
I'm going to hit 4 million this year.
28:56
That's my goal. That's crazy.
28:58
We've got some follow up and we've been, I've been and others
29:05
offline not on this show have been teasing you about the
29:08
demise of Xbox and we have been Pooh poohed and you have been
29:13
vindicated somewhat. I've been right this entire
29:16
time. I told you they're going to be
29:17
making another Xbox console and. Tell me about it.
29:24
This is what this is. I think they left the
29:26
announcement for fuel to retire and actually come in.
29:31
So she's got something big to announce when she starts and
29:35
it's going to be called Project Helix and it'll play your PC
29:39
game. So it's sounding a lot like.
29:43
It's just APC. You know, PC.
29:46
It's a Steam Machine. Yes, I think it's going to be a
29:50
lot like, yeah, just a Steam box or something.
29:54
Yeah. Which I'll make.
29:56
Well, I mean, I mean Xbox is APC.
29:59
It's just yeah, just with some restrictions.
30:02
Although I oh anyway. But if they turn into anything
30:06
like they've got with the handheld, you'll be able to play
30:09
all your steam and everything on it.
30:12
As well. Yeah, because you can do that
30:13
already, right? Yeah, on that thing, whatever
30:16
that thing is called. The Rogue.
30:17
The Rogue. I just yeah, Xbox Ally, I call
30:21
it. Oh, you call it your ally.
30:23
That's my ally. You little buddy.
30:26
But yeah, it just, it does complete everything.
30:28
And that's just natively. I don't have to do anything
30:30
special. I just hit Steam and my Steam
30:32
library will come up. Is it, I mean, we probably
30:37
talked about this at the time, but so you're, you've got this,
30:40
you've got this device. Is it vision like when you play
30:44
an Xbox game, is it the Xbox Series X version of the game
30:47
that you're playing? Or is it like, you know, the
30:52
equivalent of like a what was the other one, the Series S or
30:55
whatever? Yeah, there's two, the 2.
30:57
Xboxes. So I think it depends.
31:01
If it's plugged in I get 4K. It's not plugged in, I get
31:04
1080P. Yeah, right.
31:07
I can play. Just the reason I ask is because
31:10
my Xbox is a big fucking thing. Or not big, but it's pretty big.
31:14
Like it's a big box, right? And the reason is because it
31:16
needs cooling and it's got a bunch of stuff going on there.
31:19
Can your little handheld thing now do that?
31:23
The same thing as my big black box can do.
31:26
Oh, not and yeah, OK. Not not not to not to 4K or
31:30
anything like most of the time I think.
31:31
And a rundown. The battery, The big.
31:34
Game you're playing yeah, that's.
31:35
But I was just playing RoboCop the other day, yeah, and that
31:39
was running fine. Yeah, OK, 4K we wouldn't need,
31:43
we don't need 4K on the little screen either like this thing
31:45
does this doesn't this doesn't do 4K.
31:47
Is this I think it's a 720P or maybe 1080P and it's.
31:50
Like 1080P when it's not plugged in, 4K when it is plugged in.
31:54
Like I can't read text on this, you know if?
31:58
It was 4. K anyway.
31:59
I need to start wearing my glasses when I play it.
32:03
I need to wear my glasses maybe all the time now.
32:06
I literally got my phone out the other day and I was like what
32:10
the fuck like. Yeah, I'm actually having that
32:13
problem as well. So I need to go buy more another
32:16
pair of glasses. So I just have a pair of glasses
32:20
like at my desk at work here. I've got some here.
32:23
Anywhere in the house. I don't know.
32:25
So listeners, I don't know if you have a solution for this.
32:27
I don't know if there is a solution for this, but I cannot
32:30
wear these with these. I cannot.
32:34
It will it like drives me fucking nuts to have them
32:36
pressed into my head. So I don't know what the
32:38
solution for that is. Contacts.
32:41
Contacts or earbuds but I don't know.
32:45
I like headphones for. So do I.
32:47
Headphones sound better. You can hear people walking up
32:52
behind you, not eating games. Anyway, Well, I can.
32:56
Oh, in games, yeah, my Airpods are great 90% of the time.
32:59
I use my Airpods, actually. Yeah, but I don't want to use
33:02
Airpods for this. I don't like I'm the only use
33:04
wireless. No, for podcast, there's a
33:07
delay. No.
33:08
Yeah. And I know a lot of people don't
33:09
notice it, but I notice it. But no, she came in and
33:13
announced that and yeah, she used the next generation.
33:19
And it does say like Project Helix will lead in performance
33:22
in and play your Xbox and PC game.
33:25
So it's interesting to see. What top comments?
33:30
The top comment on this I agree with.
33:32
The real question is whether or not this machine will support
33:34
Steam. If it only supports the Xbox app
33:37
then it's going to be DOA, and that's potentially true if for
33:43
the PC side of it. Yeah.
33:45
And with people, I do worry, like there's been so much talk
33:50
about Xbox being dead, yes, that are people now going to get it
33:55
into their heads? Well, I'm not going to buy
33:56
another Xbox, even if it wasn't true.
33:59
But it's been because there's just been so much talk about it.
34:02
Well, no, I think it will have, I think it will have Steam on
34:06
there. Because it does now, yeah.
34:09
Oh, your one has Steam. Stupid games.
34:10
Yeah, yeah, OK. I don't see why it would be any
34:13
different at battle.net. Yeah, because most of my games
34:16
are in Steam. Yeah.
34:17
Is it run? For GOG as well, Project Helix
34:20
will be the same. Yeah.
34:22
All right. Yeah, I didn't know I could get
34:24
GOG on here. I I thought I've seen it, but
34:26
didn't tick my mind. Yeah, there's events on there I
34:29
want to play. That's better than the Xbox, to
34:31
be honest. The fact that it can do the Xbox
34:33
and all that other stuff, yeah, yeah, that's good.
34:35
Yeah. Because with what I was saying
34:37
before GeForce Now, I know it sounds stupid to want to be able
34:40
to play like an old Sierra adventure game, but I can't play
34:43
those easily on anything else. And some of them, GOG has no Mac
34:51
support, so I have to have this. I got a Parallels, which is like
34:56
a virtualisation thing. I have a Windows VM, yeah, that
34:59
I use for that stuff. And it's just be nice to not
35:01
have to do that. And even that can be a bit
35:02
clunky sometimes and not. Oh, it is, yeah.
35:05
Yeah, but I understand why GOG don't always have Mac support
35:09
because it takes them a lot of work sometimes to get these
35:11
games up and running just on PC. Yeah.
35:16
And Macs don't have Intel processors anymore, so it's
35:20
yeah, refusing. Yeah, I can play Wing Commander.
35:26
The OG Wing Commander or Wing Commander 3.
35:31
Wing Commander 3 the. One with Mike Hamill.
35:34
Yep. And others, Speaking of the
35:38
Steam Machine, which you mentioned briefly before, there
35:41
were a lot of rumours about the fact that he was supposed to
35:45
come out this year and people were saying there's a RAM
35:47
shortage because, you know, AI and all that jazz, so it's not
35:53
going to come out this year. And then Valve just yesterday I
35:56
think came out and said no, no, it is.
36:00
It's going to be a lot more expensive.
36:03
Yes, it is still shipping the Steam Machine, Steam Frame and
36:06
Steam Controller in 2026. Yes, it's going to be more
36:11
expensive than it would have been otherwise.
36:12
Project Helix is meant to come out in 2027, which is scarily
36:18
it's only next year. But I don't know this RAM
36:22
shortage, something's got to happen because this since I've
36:30
got it, it's got up to $100. Yeah.
36:34
Like that's a huge jump. I know, I know.
36:37
And then like there's just, they announced a bunch, they've just
36:40
announced a bunch of new Macs and everything and the prices
36:45
haven't gone up technically. They've kind of equivalently
36:47
shifted or whatever, but Apple has these like long term
36:51
contracts in theory, like they, they pay a lot of money to have
36:55
long term contracts. And so people are like, oh, the
36:59
Apple's rent prices didn't go up and it's like, well, hang on.
37:01
First of all, they fucking inflate them through the roof so
37:03
they can probably just eat the easily eat the fucking cost
37:07
because you're already paying twice as much.
37:09
And second, they have these long contracts.
37:11
So maybe they're not even feeling this yet.
37:13
So yeah, might be might be a good time to buy a Mac now
37:18
before you have to pay. Or I have to negotiate the next
37:21
contract? Exactly.
37:24
Yeah, But the Steam Machine is interesting.
37:27
I don't because the problem with that now is though, yeah, now
37:32
that you've told me the Helix can do all that, can the Steam
37:34
Machine play Xbox? Probably not.
37:36
Probably not So. So maybe the Helix is the better
37:38
option for me. Yeah.
37:42
The non existent yet. Helix non existent yeah the only
37:45
thing we know is the name and yeah it'll play Xbox and PC
37:48
games that's. It I mean, I don't need to buy
37:50
anything anytime soon I don't think, so I can wait.
37:53
No, you're going to be playing June for the next year.
37:57
Yeah, and I play that on GeForce cloud, so don't even need a
38:00
machine for that. And yeah, hopefully is.
38:04
Does anyone have any ideas when the RAM crisis might stop?
38:08
I certainly don't. I think it's going to get worse.
38:11
Yeah, yeah. We're not using less AI.
38:15
No, we just every single day there seems like a new AI that's
38:19
coming out. It's not.
38:20
Just a RAM either it's just like fucking water and and just
38:24
resources in general. This thing's just.
38:26
Chewing up it's also like floating onto even just plain
38:29
old memory, not memory like just plain old hard drives.
38:32
And now I'm more expensive because SD you can't get SSD
38:35
drives, so they actually get hard drives.
38:38
So everything's sort of inflating because everyone just
38:42
needs that memory. Yeah, everyone needs to ask it
38:45
damn fucking questions. Yeah.
38:47
Everyone needs to ask what Formula One drivers that should
38:50
pick for their. They should pick for their.
38:52
See, I actually use it for work. No, I did too.
38:56
Told them to. Write write this e-mail for me,
38:59
then I delete. I've been encouraged to use it
39:00
more at work, but I'm not going to.
39:03
We'd have to pick a bit of details, but yeah, I ask you
39:08
questions. I don't let it do things.
39:10
You can, you can. They have like if you've seen
39:13
Claude code and all those things, I've used those on my
39:16
personal computer to play. I I so I wrote a little, I
39:21
wrote, sorry, I shouldn't even say I wrote it.
39:23
I vibe coded a little command LINE app to transcribe podcasts
39:30
using service and it works. But then I went and looked at
39:37
the code and I was like, the fuck did you do that for?
39:40
Like it works but like did some weird stuff and I'm like well.
39:45
What if it's a lot simpler? And I guess if you're not a
39:49
developer, you wouldn't know. And so I thought that was very
39:53
strange. And then there's all these cases
39:55
where someone the other day do you know Stripe Stripes payment
39:59
processor? Online like yeah, so somebody
40:02
vibe coded their whole app and got a bunch they have a bunch of
40:05
customers and stuff like that and then it put the API keys in
40:10
the front end code right So you could go in and you know view
40:13
the code on the front end and the API keys for striper in
40:15
there and then somebody duh, somebody got them and then like
40:22
charged them a bunch of money charged all they cut got all the
40:24
the the tokens for all their customers charged all their
40:27
customers a bunch of money like a it yeah, you got to be very
40:30
careful yes don't trust these things to like do the right.
40:34
None of them are a replacement for anything.
40:37
It's like I said with the Formula One thing, they will
40:39
confidently do the wrong thing. And then when you go, is that
40:43
all right? They'll go, yeah, it's fine.
40:44
And if you don't know, right, if you can't specifically say to
40:47
it, no, no, you put the fucking API keys on the front end, mate.
40:50
And then it goes, you're right, I did do that and I shouldn't
40:53
have done that. Like, But if you don't know,
40:56
it's going to just tell you no, no, it's fine mate.
41:01
And even say don't do that. If people making games just
41:04
solely using that, it's going to be so bloated and runs so
41:08
poorly. It's not going to be.
41:09
Yeah, yeah. It yeah, it does weird stuff.
41:13
Yeah. And it's destroying the world,
41:18
yes. So who knows.
41:19
And I mean, it's not going away, obviously.
41:21
It's not going away, but yeah, like, like, what?
41:24
I've heard, like one question uses like 6 liters of water,
41:27
which is insane. Yeah.
41:32
And that's just asking questions, let alone giving
41:34
Natalie Portman big tits. Yeah, one of them's worth it and
41:42
one of them's not. Depends on what the question is.
41:46
Unless the question is can you please give Natalie Portman big
41:49
tits. In which case worth it?
41:52
6 liters of water worth it? Worth it?
41:56
Yeah, right. So you've.
41:58
Brought up the F1 a fair bit. Should we maybe talk about this,
42:02
about how you may have to readjust your viewing schedule?
42:07
Yeah, so people may have heard there's a conflict happening
42:14
currently in the Middle East of of.
42:17
Yeah, it's a question of when the fuck that's going to end.
42:22
And there's a lot of F1 races in the Middle East, and in
42:25
particular, there's a lot of Formula One races in places that
42:29
are currently being bombed. So yeah.
42:33
So the first three races we've got Australia is this weekend,
42:39
and then I think it's Japan is coming up.
42:41
And there's another one that's not, I can't remember the first
42:46
three races. Oh, Australia, China, Australia,
42:49
China and Japan. So that'll be fine.
42:50
Australia should be fine, yeah. But then so that's, you know,
42:55
that gets buzzes a month. Yeah.
42:57
So and then and then they're off into the Middle East for a for a
43:01
stretch. And it's just some questions to
43:03
whether they'll be able to do it.
43:04
Yeah. Because they literally, it's
43:08
happened once before in I forget, I forget where, but like
43:13
something literally a missile strike was on.
43:17
Like you could see it from the track.
43:19
There was a missile strike on something and it was like, OK,
43:23
and they would. Do do we drive or do we pit?
43:26
Exactly. Yeah, red flag.
43:33
Yeah. So they they're talking about
43:34
where they reschedule or I mean, and then depending on how long,
43:40
Yeah, no one knows. Like it reschedules only works
43:43
if it's eventually going to be cleared up by the end of the
43:47
year, you know what I mean? Yeah, and it's a big thing.
43:50
Like do you research or do you try and bring some races
43:53
forward? Is that even possible or?
43:56
Well, it's, yeah, it's a big, it's a big enterprise.
43:58
Like a Formula One race is a big fucking enterprise.
44:03
Australia. We race through the streets in
44:04
Australia, don't we? In Albert Park in I think it's
44:09
it's a track, isn't? It I think it would used to be
44:12
up in Brisbane. Yeah, that.
44:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that was on the road.
44:16
Albert Park Circuit. Let's see.
44:20
Albert Park Circuit is a street circuit.
44:22
Oh, OK. No, you're right.
44:24
You're right. You're right.
44:27
Albert Park is the suburb. Yep, and there'll be a few
44:31
others that are St. circuits and so yeah, move to.
44:34
There. Is a big thing.
44:36
It's not just. Yes, if it's not at a racetrack,
44:39
it's a problem because it's like literally the.
44:41
Roads. It's at a racetrack.
44:42
Formula One's not the only. No, that's.
44:45
Right, those tracks. It's like you can't just move a
44:47
convention because you booked a time.
44:51
Like, Yeah. And Speaking of conventions,
44:54
packs coming up. Is coming up, I've got my leave
44:57
all booked from PAX Australia. PAX Australia 9th.
44:59
Oh yeah, the 11th of October. I can say, yeah, we should, we
45:02
should announce that that's happened.
45:03
If you want to go to PAX Australia, can you buy passes
45:06
yet? Not yet.
45:07
They go on sale on the 24th of this month, Yeah.
45:09
See. You've got all the details.
45:10
You've got all the details 24th. All right, ready to go.
45:13
I would love to go to Pax Oz this year, but I don't think
45:16
that's feasible. Maybe next year.
45:19
Yeah. I want to get back to PAX East.
45:22
We should be going to very shortly.
45:24
Yep, 2 weeks. So if any watchers or listeners
45:29
are going to be the witnesses we call, we call our audience
45:32
witnesses. I keep forgetting.
45:33
Any witnesses going to be at PAX East?
45:35
Let us know. Matt will buy you a drink.
45:39
Sure, Yeah, Jenna and I will be there, probably at the whatever.
45:46
It's usually Voodoo. Ranger has a booth.
45:48
Probably be at the Ranger booth drinking beer.
45:52
And you're and pax is 4 days isn't it?
45:55
Yep. Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
45:56
Sunday. Yep.
45:57
Yep. Yeah, it looks Morgan.
45:59
They announced the exhibitors, you know, the show floor.
46:02
And I was confused at first because I looked through it and
46:06
I was like, I don't really see any.
46:07
I didn't really see anybody. It's all indie, indie stuff,
46:09
which is fine, actually quite like that.
46:11
It's all indie stuff now. It's smaller and it's more like,
46:14
you know, I know what the big it.
46:15
It was nice back when it was like the the first packs I went
46:20
to was like BioShock Infinite. Yeah.
46:23
Fucking Aliens. What's that Aliens game?
46:26
Randy Pitchford Coloured lot. Marines, Colonial Marines,
46:30
Colonial Marines. It was a bunch of big stuff.
46:33
And then I went Firefall. Remember that game?
46:36
Yep, Yep. It was all it used to be.
46:39
There used to be tons of big stuff there.
46:40
And then when we did PAX East it was the same, right?
46:42
There was tons of big games. I can't remember what was it?
46:44
PAX East the first time we came now.
46:46
Now there was Borderlands. That was the big.
46:48
Thing. Oh, right.
46:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Fuck, yeah.
46:52
And so, well, so there's none of that now.
46:54
The big, the big games aren't there, not usually.
46:57
And so it's very small indie games a lot, but lots of them,
47:02
which is it's kind of cool. Things happened in Australia
47:05
like Nintendo are still there in a big way.
47:08
So the announcement said I was looking through the list and I
47:10
didn't see Nintendo. And I was like, oh, even
47:12
Nintendo's not there anymore. But then they sent out an e-mail
47:14
that said no, no, no, Nintendo returns.
47:16
So the Nintendo is going to be there but but I didn't see them
47:19
on the the the list so maybe the list was out of date or
47:22
something or not up to date. Yeah, yeah, because, yeah,
47:26
Nintendo's been the only one that's been consistently like
47:29
having a big presence there. Yeah, Xbox did this year, but
47:34
that was just because of the new handheld, because that sort of
47:37
tidy. OK, Xbox did.
47:39
Very nicely. Last year.
47:41
It was released in October and packaged in October, so it was
47:44
just perfect advertising for it. Yeah.
47:48
But yeah, Sony wasn't Sony. I don't think it's been there
47:50
for a while. No, it was Sony held out the
47:54
longest I think when COVID happened.
47:57
So there was whatever the PAX East the year, the year that
48:00
COVID showed up, all of them started pulling out.
48:05
Yeah. And and we went still that year
48:08
and it was very strange that year.
48:11
It was very, very, I mean, because they lost a bunch of big
48:15
booths, I guess. So it all just got kind of got
48:17
got weird. And then from then on the next
48:23
few years because of COVID and everything, they all just were
48:25
like, oh, we'll just do like online community events or
48:27
whatever. And then I guess that was so
48:28
successful that now they just don't bother.
48:31
Doing yeah, no, the big story. Yeah, We'll just do a big show
48:34
online. Everyone watches it.
48:35
Everyone on the trailers anyway. We don't have to spend the money
48:39
on packs, basically. Yeah, it's like that sucks.
48:43
But it's good that we got the replacement with the indie
48:46
stuff, which is the stuff that quite like, because that's what
48:49
killed. Well, there are people who need
48:50
it, that's they need their game put in front of people like I
48:52
don't Xbox and you know, the big AAA games.
48:57
We know about them. Yeah, like it's nice to go see
48:59
them early or whatever, but we know about them, like the indie
49:02
games. I wouldn't see them otherwise.
49:03
So, so many games I've yeah would never have come across if
49:07
it wasn't for seeing them and watch.
49:08
And sometimes it's nice watching them grow over years.
49:11
Yes, they'll bring it once and it'll be, oh, OK, Then the next
49:14
year it's coming. They've sort of taken feedback
49:17
from shows they've been to. And it's.
49:18
Yeah. And often when you go to beat,
49:21
often when you see a game and you go, oh, that looks like a
49:23
cool game, and you go up and you go tell me about the game.
49:25
You're talking to the developer. You're not.
49:27
It's not like some PR person. It's just, it's the fucking guy
49:30
who made it like, Yep, oh girl, I should say yes.
49:34
And I'll give them feedback. OK, whether they whether they
49:40
want them or not, we'll get to them.
49:44
This game is shit. No, but it's sort of nice
49:49
because remember E3? What killed E3 was actually all
49:53
the big like Xbox, Sony, Nintendo or not going to E3 but
49:59
having their events on at E3. Yeah, the one I Jenna and I've
50:04
been to E3 once and it was right before it went Alpha Cliff
50:10
because it was, I think it was the year that Microsoft said
50:13
we're not going to be at E3, We're going to be next door.
50:17
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Around the corner.
50:19
And if you have an E3 badge, you can come, but we're not going to
50:24
be at E3. And it's like, oh, OK.
50:26
Oh, that and, and Devolver also wasn't at E3.
50:29
They were across the road for some reason.
50:31
There was a reason for that. I can't remember what it was.
50:34
But anyway, it was, it was the beginning of that was.
50:37
Like they were still getting, like all the big shooters were
50:39
still getting all the excitement from E3 and everything, but
50:44
weren't giving us any money. Yeah, exactly.
50:47
Yes. And Nintendo and Sony were still
50:48
inside like in E3. And then there was a bunch of
50:53
that that was that was actually, that was good.
50:56
I liked E3. I'm glad I got to experience it
51:00
sort of as it. Well, I know it would have been
51:02
different had everything been in the one building, but but it was
51:05
it was similar. I think that was that was fun.
51:10
But yes, that was also the beginning of the the end of.
51:14
The end. Of all that.
51:16
Yep. Yeah, because yeah, why?
51:18
Why would even continue if you're not getting paid for it?
51:21
Bethesda's not doing the Bethesda Game Days thing at PAX.
51:24
See, they they actually got early on the train of not doing
51:27
PAX. They just rented out the the bar
51:30
next door. Bethesda actually do do come to
51:34
PAX Australia, but not in the way you expect.
51:39
They're there, they're putting on like the bar, they're putting
51:42
on little things around, but there's no like big Bethesda's.
51:46
So they're inside packs, but they're not OK interesting
51:50
they've. Got little things going around
51:52
like they do a lot of, like they'll give a lot of prizes to
51:56
some of the charities to give away for when they're like money
51:59
and stuff. They're running the.
52:01
Yeah, running the bar, Yeah. They'll set up like another
52:04
cafe, which should be like Red Rocket, but there's no Oh yeah,
52:08
but there's the booth. Like he's Elder Scrolls.
52:11
He's. Yeah, he's the new fallout.
52:13
Whatever. Well, they don't have any any
52:16
new coming out No in the short term anyway, but they used to do
52:20
the Bethesda game days at the you you would probably remember.
52:23
You know, PAX is at the Convention Center and then right
52:25
next to it is a hotel and in the hotel is a comedy club like a
52:28
bar. Yep.
52:29
And they would just rent out that whole bar.
52:31
Yep and and invite everybody to come over and and.
52:35
Because they. Do that instead.
52:36
I did that and I ended up because they they spread it out
52:39
into like you've got an hour in here and then the next people
52:43
grew coming. I wasn't there for about 3 hours
52:45
just talking to people. Yeah.
52:46
Yeah, and you get free drinks and they have free food and like
52:50
they had like retro consoles set up, everything like that.
52:52
It was fucking great they had. But like they don't do it
52:55
anymore. No, which is a shame.
52:58
Not since COVID. Yeah.
53:02
Last year Red Bull did an event in that bar, but it wasn't as
53:07
good because it was just, well, I just had, like a DJ and then
53:11
they gave out prizes and stuff and I was like, well, I don't
53:14
care. Yeah, yeah.
53:17
I have no interest in this. Yeah, I don't.
53:20
Red Bull's fine. Yeah.
53:23
Yeah, you know. What?
53:24
I'm not going to get invited again this year?
53:26
Now, I shouldn't be saying this. I'm not going to get invited
53:27
this year, but we'll see. I need to start keeping an eye
53:32
on my e-mail, see what's coming up.
53:35
Be prepared. Something that's coming up.
53:39
This is a, a pivot away from games briefly.
53:43
There is a podcast called I think once we were spacemen and
53:48
it's Nathan Fillion and Alan Tudic talking about Firefly and
53:53
stuff. And they've had people who were
53:55
on Firefly on the show and they talk about stuff and you know,
53:59
it's I it's been pretty successful, I think.
54:02
And they haven't they, they over the last week or two, they've
54:07
been posting these videos on like Instagram and everywhere.
54:10
It's Nathan Fillion going around to all the people from fire, all
54:15
the actors and actresses from Firefly's house knocking on the
54:18
door. And then it's a, it's the theme
54:21
of it basically is there's a little comedy skit or whatever,
54:23
but they're in it. They all open the door and then
54:27
something funny happens or whatever.
54:28
And then they go, is it finally time?
54:31
And he goes, yes, it's finally time.
54:34
And then it ends and it's like, what the fuck?
54:38
And so and and not only that, like so hype is building what
54:43
it's time for what? And and they said on one of
54:46
them, in the caption of one of them, he said people are
54:48
guessing podcast convention, like blah, blah.
54:54
And he's like, it's none of those things.
54:56
It's like, what is it? And so now obviously people are
55:01
like, it's a fucking reboot or continuation of Firefly I.
55:05
Heard that? Yeah.
55:07
It's probably not, but they're certainly leading us in that
55:11
direction. See what happens and this
55:13
happened to me today. I was something popped up as an
55:17
article and it was sequel to Starship.
55:24
What was the stash game where the kid plays a video game and
55:27
goes to space? Last star fighter.
55:30
Last star fighter sequence, last star fighters coming and I've
55:33
got excited. I click on it.
55:34
No, there's a comic coming on that's a.
55:36
Continuation of the story, right?
55:38
Maybe it's an animated thing? Maybe it's an animated thing?
55:41
Which would still be good, but like, but, and so far, Adam
55:46
Baldwin is not one of the people he's been knocking on the door.
55:50
And I really hope if they do do that one he opens the door and
55:52
tells him to scram. Well, well, The thing is, Alan
55:57
Tudyk can't come back. Of course he can't.
56:02
Yeah, good point. Well, who knows?
56:05
Science fiction. He's a leaf on the wind.
56:08
He's a leaf on the wind. But yeah, I mean, but this is
56:13
like they're hyping this up, whatever this is.
56:16
And then people are like, Oh yeah, because the Buffy thing is
56:19
happening and it's, it's like, yeah, but that's not even out
56:21
yet. Like, and that doesn't matter
56:25
because Firefly and Buffy are very different in like level of
56:29
success and, and like how known they are.
56:33
And also the Buffy was huge. Also, the amount of, if it was
56:36
live action, the amount of money per episode would be very
56:39
different as well. Yeah.
56:42
But it it anyway. So there's an announcement
56:43
coming like they said. Is it the 16th?
56:46
I think like they've clarified here we go once with Spaceman
56:54
15th. Some of you have guessed, some
56:58
of you have guessed convention, podcast or crossover.
57:00
You are wrong. That is what Nathan Fillion
57:03
said. It's not a podcast convention or
57:06
a crossover. Well, I could very easily
57:10
understand that not being a convention because they've done
57:12
plenty of them already, so that wouldn't be a big thing.
57:18
Crossover with what? Yeah, I I mean, I mean they know
57:25
what they're doing, right? Like they are getting everybody
57:29
thinking that this is either a new movie.
57:32
That's how I think there's ATV show.
57:33
So if you don't know about Firefly is it was ATV series.
57:35
It was like what like? It was 13 episodes that Fox
57:40
ruined. Yeah, so they started shooting
57:44
it, got approved, the pilot got approved, they started shooting
57:47
it. For some reason, Fox decided to
57:50
air them in the wrong order. Yeah, somebody made a decision.
57:55
I can't remember why. There was some weird.
57:56
Justification for it because the first one was.
57:59
Was downer. It was.
58:00
Dark. Yeah, yeah.
58:02
And so they went, but start with this one, which is a bit
58:04
lighter. And then they play and it's just
58:06
everyone was what? People were confused by it
58:08
because they're like, who are these people?
58:09
Like, yeah, what's going on? Because the first one was dark,
58:14
but it also explained what the fucking story was.
58:16
Yes. And it got cancelled.
58:21
Oh, yeah. Because then that happened.
58:23
Yeah. So they, they, I think they
58:25
played them out of order. People were confused, didn't
58:27
really watch. And then they then they were
58:29
like, OK, we'll put it on a different late time slot.
58:31
And then even less people watched it because of that.
58:34
And then it basically it was never really given a chance.
58:37
And then they made a movie. Of course, people finally got to
58:42
see it in order and went, oh, this show is amazing.
58:45
Yes, and everyone. And it developed a huge fan base
58:47
and then they got given the money to make a movie, Serenity,
58:50
which I think was successful and it was a good movie.
58:55
And so now as we said, Nathan Fillion, who was the star of the
58:57
show, played Mel Reynolds. He is going around posting these
59:02
videos of him tell telling all the previous stars of the show
59:07
except I think one of them died. The Shepherd, the doctor, I
59:10
think he's dead so he's not going to be in it either.
59:13
He. Did dignity?
59:14
Yeah, telling him it's time. Yep.
59:18
But time for what? Don't know.
59:19
But not time for any of those things he listed.
59:21
It's something we find out in the 15th.
59:26
If they if he was hyping up any of those things like a
59:28
conventional podcast from Crossover, I would be so annoyed
59:32
if that was the announcement. Well, that's the thing.
59:35
He knows what he's doing. Like, he, he, he's going to piss
59:38
a lot of people off if it's not something good at this point,
59:41
right? If they're like, like, oh, it's
59:43
just, yeah, it's just a photo of us all together.
59:46
Here's a photo of us standing together like we're fucking.
59:49
We're doing a reunion show, like we're going to talk about it.
59:54
Yeah. What's?
59:54
That a rewatch? Yeah.
59:56
Like no, no, no, no. We want something big.
1:00:01
We want, yeah, another season or another movie.
1:00:06
I'd prefer another season actually.
1:00:08
I would love that, but is that feasible?
1:00:13
Oh, wait, he said. Adam Baldwin is.
1:00:17
Oh, hang on, sorry, Help the careers off because I'm sure
1:00:19
that he said. I mean, I haven't seen them go
1:00:21
to Adam Baldwin's house. What is Adam Baldwin even doing
1:00:24
these days? Waiting for who?
1:00:26
Wait, he's here? They just did.
1:00:29
Oh, they just did. And he's dressed as Jane.
1:00:34
Come on. What the fuck is what?
1:00:37
What is this? Come on guys, what is this?
1:00:41
Oh my God, does he seem in? Yeah.
1:00:44
He's got they got the hat on and everything.
1:00:47
Yeah. So I don't know.
1:00:49
Yeah, OK, we don't know what this is, but they are certainly
1:00:53
teasing us. Yes.
1:00:59
Anyway, come on 15th. So when is the 15th?
1:01:03
Will we know? Next week?
1:01:04
No. We won't.
1:01:06
We won't know by the time this episode.
1:01:07
We film this episode, unfortunately.
1:01:09
We'll know. Nothing on a Sunday.
1:01:13
Yeah, that's a bit weird. We'll know during the Chinese
1:01:17
Grand Prix. Yeah.
1:01:20
After the Chinese grand. Prix.
1:01:23
Yeah, there's Jane. Yeah.
1:01:26
So, OK, I mean that that's even more because I was thinking they
1:01:32
won't go to Adam Baldwin's house because there was, you know, he
1:01:35
he became controversial because he went very, very extremely
1:01:38
right wing and got controversial.
1:01:40
The fact that he's there too. Come on, What is this?
1:01:44
Well, actually, he's been a bit quiet lately.
1:01:46
That's what I mean, but I and I thought, oh, they won't go to
1:01:48
him because he's a kind of a pop.
1:01:51
He might be a bit of a live wire to to touch.
1:01:55
It I think maybe he maybe is not as much anymore because I
1:01:59
haven't seen anything controversial from him in a long
1:02:01
time. Haven't heard anything from him
1:02:04
in a long time. I don't know what this is, but
1:02:08
it's certainly enticing. I can't believe they've got all
1:02:12
these people to do whatever this is.
1:02:16
I just what is this? Screw What is this?
1:02:20
Screw us over, Yeah. Anyway, we'll see.
1:02:25
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