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Bill Seals on the Cyclones, Bama Bob talks College Football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Hillary Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network
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Trenton Ken with you until 2 off the bench at that time, Sean
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Roberts, Lucas Strain until 5. Bama Bob coming up in 25
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minutes. We'll talk college football with
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Bama as we missed him yesterday. We missed all the yesterday.
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Now have a chance to recap the weekend.
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Bill Seals helps us do that. He covers Iowa State.
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They played two basketball games yesterday at Hilton course.
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Jack Trice was seen of Arizona State and Iowa State.
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The coaching staff for Iowa State football met the media
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earlier today, Haycock and Campbell and Bill recaps that
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with us. Bill, Trent, Ken, thanks for
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finding a few minutes for us. I know you're very busy.
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Busy Tuesday up there following a busy Monday.
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How are you, Bill Seals? I'm doing good, guys.
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I mean, what? What's not going on right now?
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I think that's a better question, right?
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You ran it all down. Yeah, love to see it.
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It's it's, it's good for segments, it's good for columns,
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etcetera, etcetera. So let's start with, let's start
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with football. First of all, let's go back to
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what we saw on Saturday before we what we heard here today and
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what we saw is continued subpar performance from Rocco Beck to
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seemingly is going the wrong way.
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At least it looks like he's missing wide open receivers.
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He's still a tough kid, I'll give him that, and he's had
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great success. But something's off with the
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signal caller for Iowa State. Would you agree with that Bill?
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Yeah, I mean, the, the, the, the stats kind of bear it out, I
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think since that hit in the Cincinnati game.
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But he's spot through it. You know, there's been good
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stretches of play from him though, too.
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I think that's the part that's so perplexing.
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Like I think it was the BYU game at one point, I think was he 12
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of 15, I believe passing in the first half of that game.
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So he's still flashing being that same efficient guy, but
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just for one reason or another, seems like it's been a lot more
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inconsistent than it than it used to be.
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And the other coaching staff, they they like to use the word
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globally, whether it's the protection issue, you know,
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Matt, Matt Campbell bring that brought that up today a little
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bit. You know, at times maybe there's
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a protection issue, there's an errant throw or there's a wide
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receiver that maybe could have made, made, made a few more
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plays. I mean, if you look back and as
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you watch that game against Arizona State, So what happens
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if Chase Sowell gets that extra yard or two when they they go
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for him in the red zone? Yeah, yeah.
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When they go for it, that's an easy, you know, catch where
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maybe he runs a couple yards deeper on the route or whatever
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and Iowa State goes down and wins that game.
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I think if it's just, you know, plays like that, if they go and
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they win the game, that it's a whole lot different theme I
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think this week for them getting ready to go play TCU.
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Just one point. He did have 3 picks in the BYU
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game, yes right as well so. Yeah, yeah, that.
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Yeah. And yeah, he was 12 of 15, I
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think, to start and 13 of 15 when you factoring in, you know,
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leading. A path.
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To the other team, so, but yeah, I mean the completion percentage
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was like what we saw from Rocco when he's really clicking on all
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cylinders. I know there's certain people
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out there that want to see a quarterback change.
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And the latest to Alex Manske, obviously a guy that you got to
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know very well in the recruiting process and seeing what he did
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at the Elite 11. People are enamored with the
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backup and that's just a rite of passage in football and it
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happens quite often. Listening and just reading
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through the quotes, I haven't had a chance to listen.
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Just reading through the quotes from Campbell.
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Does not appear that that is at the top of mind for Coach
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Campbell making a change of QB. No, I think Rocco, Rocco is his
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guy. He's going to continue to be his
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guy. And the only reason you would
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see Manske, I think, is if there's an injury with Rocco
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that's going to put him out. The, you know, the other thing
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is, is the way this season's gone, you know, they're 5:00 and
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4:00. You're, you're not going to burn
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Alex Pansky's red shirt. He's played, I believe it's in
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two games. So they've still got two games
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they can put him out there in and they've got obviously 3 to
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go. So they've got some work they
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can do with him later in the season if they so choose, you
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know, choose to do that. But I just, I just don't see a
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change being made unless Rocco gets hurt.
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Speaking to Get Hurt, Ben Bramer.
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Obviously that was a scary, scary scene.
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Do you, I mean, is it, do you think it's trending that he
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might have played his final game of the year?
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I'm not sure. I mean, I, I, I read Campbell's
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quotes. Doesn't sound like he's going to
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be back on the field. Bramber apparently told
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Campbell, I'll be back in a minute, you know, but I'm not,
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I'm not so sure that's a prudent decision.
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Where is where is Bramer? Does, is there a chance this is
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season ending? It certainly looked obviously
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very serious for him to be transported to the hospital.
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Yeah, yeah. And I, I think, you know, Matt
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characterized it as as kind of a, a scare more than a scary
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outcome. I guess you you could say was
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how he he characterized it. But yeah, I mean, I, I think
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the, the way this thing's going, they're not going to the Big 12
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championship game. They've got three weeks left to
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go. I think they're going to make
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sure that that Ben is, is full go and it's prudent to put him
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out there. Yeah.
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And they've had good production, I think from Gabe Burke, Cooper
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Alexander was a guy early in last week's game.
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They got him established in, in, in the past a little bit.
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So they've got some options there to, to, to roll with.
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And yeah, I think they they're, they're not going to push him
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back out there until he's ready to roll.
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Defensively heard from Haycock had a caller earlier that was
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asking the question about is it time to rethink that three man
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front goes something more traditional.
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They have not been able to generate any kind of pass rush
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this year and maybe offenses have started to figure things up
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a little bit. Take away from Haycock and your
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thoughts and likely not going to happen this season, but looking
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maybe under the hood next season of what they're doing
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defensively. I don't, I don't foresee any
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changes there even beyond this season, Trent.
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I mean, I, I just think you look at you look at the personnel
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that they've got the way this defense is structured, where the
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numbers are, I'm not sure that this, it's, it's a scenario
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where they could go with four guys because you factor in they
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go to a four man front, then you know, they want to have a
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legitimate 2 deep. Do they have 8 guys on the
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roster that can play defensive line right now at a Big 12
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level? I'm not sure that they do.
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And then you look if they, if they want to do that, it's
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something they've got to address with the transfer portal.
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And that's an expensive position to, to recruit in the portal.
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And you can go out and you can get, you can go out and you can
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get a trade bell. You can go out and get a few
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years ago they had Colby Reader come in, you can get those guys
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in the portal. But I think the money is truly
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spent. You look at Texas Tech with how
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much they spent on that defensive line down there this
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year. And I just think it's not likely
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that Iowa State's going to have the resources to go out and do
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that and then move to a four man front.
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And they've got a lot of safeties.
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Granted they're all hurt right now.
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A lot of corners are hurt as well.
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So but a lot of numbers on the back end when they can get those
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guys back healthy and I think they're going to still play with
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that 3 high safety hook. Bill, last thing, football for
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me. TCU looms on the road this week.
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Obviously. Hoover, very gifted quarterback.
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Did Haycock or Campbell have any comments on on the Frogs who
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they'll face on Saturday? Well, just the usual the usual
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phrase for the upcoming opponent.
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Josh Huber was one of the first brought up, and Matt pointed
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back that it was about 2 1/2 years ago.
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He had come in and played against Iowa State the last time
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TCU had faced the Cyclones. And he's kind of taken the reins
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in an era where there aren't too many veteran returning
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quarterbacks on college football teams.
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Iowa State's got one, TCU's got 1 and I think Uber is he's going
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to present a different set of problems, though.
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I think for Iowa State, it seems like every time they've suited
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up, it's been that mobile quarterback and and one that can
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hurt them with the legs. Look no further than Arizona
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State what Sims was able to do. But I think with with Hoover and
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with those injuries, Iowa State's got on the back end of
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that defense, I think what he's able to do is going to put a lot
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of stress on that secondary. Yeah, and Daniel's looming with
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Kansas after so anyways, yeah. Go ahead.
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Yeah, exactly. That is a scary proposition.
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I'll let you up over to basketball, Manchilovich.
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He did it last night. He was aggressive.
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Now he was aggressive in a game against Fairly Dickinson.
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Is this guy here to stay? Because it just feels like they
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need him. They need him to be hunting
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shots. They need him to be Uber
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aggressive all the time. Have they been able to unearth
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it? Have they figured it out?
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And whatever it took to get him to be a little more aggressive
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shooting the ball. Well, I think that maybe that
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coincided with Sam and Lipsy coming back and then and then
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Turay another game in working with Bilan as well.
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So, yeah, I mean, Iowa State, gosh, is that that that
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backcourt, the wings about as good as you you'd want to see
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last night. Milan, you know, he had the
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little bit of a rough start in that game and then really found
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his rhythm. I I turned that Alec Bussey and
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I were talking a few minutes into the game about how Milan
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hadn't even had a touch yet. And it was about two or three
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minutes in. Well, I think it was that next
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possession he found it and then it just kind of carried him
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through the rest of the the rest of the day.
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So, yeah, I think that hunting shots, that's been the the term
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that TJ's used the entire offseason.
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And they're going to, they're going to need him to continue to
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do that with how this team, you know, offensively, how they're
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replacing Gilbert and Jones, they're going to need games like
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that from Milan. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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It's a great point on Lipsy and how appropriate for Lipsy to hit
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that corner 3 right off the bat. Like I know 12 seconds into the
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game, standing there by himself, not sure who found, can't
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remember who found him, but nonetheless, there he goes and
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on to the scoreboard and three on the boards.
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Good to see that the Lipsy kind of got that pay off after all
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that rehab to get back. Exactly.
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Yeah, I mean, that's you see such a difference maker.
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They they were all out of sorts against Creighton.
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Seemed like it came together a little bit.
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I don't think Northwesterns on the level of Creighton, plus
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they were playing at home. But yeah, you, you just see how
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this team runs through Tainment and, and last night.
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So, you know, we'll see next what Grambling State Thursday
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night and then Mississippi State on Monday.
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That's going to be a fun first big test, I think, for this team
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on a neutral court. We'll, we'll see what they've
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got. So we see in the starting line
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up, it was Tory out there, they got this start as opposed to
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Heisey. I think that was a little bit of
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a surprise here to stay. And I think I I saw in the game
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notes afterwards he becomes the, I think it was the 29th freshman
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ever to start their first career game at Iowa State.
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Yeah, yeah. He's just, he's fans on my
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board. You talk to, you know, other
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media folks just raving about Killian and what a steal, I
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think, for Iowa State to get him.
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You know, they were on him from when he was playing overseas.
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And then you kind of saw it bear out when he played on US soil
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for Brewster last year and, and really kind of high level
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competition at that prep school level.
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It's, it's served him well. Bateman I, I don't, I'm not
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counting him out either. I think he's going to be a
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contributor in it with him. I I think that he just needed to
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see that first one fall last night, which it did.
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And then maybe he can gain some confidence.
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But yeah, early makings of a heck of a freshman class that we
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haven't even talked about. Dominicus played it either.
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And I think that it's that the posts, we haven't seen a lot of
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those guys yet. Obviously Jefferson had the
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double double last night, but the the new guy is there.
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We haven't seen a lot of them yet production wise.
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But I think I liked what I saw and played it last night.
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He had a nice block, moved his feet well when a guy took him,
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took him to the rack. And I think he's going to a guy
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that's just going to get better and better as as he keeps
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playing. Bill, I only saw the first half
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25, I'd seen enough. But I want to ask you about
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Buchanan because his minutes kind of curtailed in the
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second-half. Was that based on foul trouble?
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Yeah, I think they just wanted to tinker around with different
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different line UPS, different rotations with Plato get get
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more work. I I still think that the
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Cannon's going to be a starter there.
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He's going to continue to be one of the the top option inside,
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but want to see what Plato's got and just just yeah, yeah.
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I mean, just get him settled in and and and going.
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And he's a guy that wasn't involved a whole lot in
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Virginia's offense, but I think as he gets going in this Iowa
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State system, he's going to become more of a factor on on
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that offense event. Plato feels like he's going to
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certainly have some minutes. We saw a little bit more of
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Bateman out there, knocked down a three pointer Mitchell play
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just a late in the game. Is Bateman the one that you'd
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anticipate as somebody out of that kind of next tier of that
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young group, that Bateman would be the guy that can find a role
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this season? Yeah, I think Bateman or Plato
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it just it, it kind of, it kind of depends.
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I think, and DJ said this about about that like those post guys,
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Mulder, even to an extent you can in that exhibition game
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against Northwestern Playa, it's going to be kind of a nightly
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thing. And, and who gives them the most
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energy is who's going to get the most minutes.
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And, and I I just think the upside with Playa is there and,
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and it's in a position of need. He's going to need to get in
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there and, and play big minutes. So yeah, I I would say it just
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kind of depends on the situation.
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Iowa stayed so deep in that back court right now too.
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With IZ, he's going to be if there's an injury, he's the
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starter, if if not, he's the six man.
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So I think with Bateman, it's just going to be when he gets in
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the game, he's going to need to knock down the shots and and
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still do. And what's what's got him to
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this point on the defensive end as well?
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I talked to a couple of my friends who are at the the
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women's game. They, they tell me Jada
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Williams, it might be the missing piece and that finally
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very quietly thinks that this might be one of his better teams
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in a while. When you watch them, obviously,
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obviously Brown and Crooks, they lead the way.
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But Jada Williams, if indeed she is that that missing piece,
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what's the ceiling for this group?
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Might this be 1 of Fenley's better teams of recent recent
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years? Well, yeah, we're not the only
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ones seeing that they were picked what to finish, I
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believe. Second, Yep.
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In conference, Yep. Yep.
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And in the national rankings in a good spot, I believe what was
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it 14th for the women they they debuted at?
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So yeah, I mean, this is dynamic team and I think one thing you
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you've seen about Emily Ryan compared to Jada is that when
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Emily Ryan like drove it towards the basket, that ball was going
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to get kicked out. More times than not, it was
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going to go to one of those shooters out on the wings.
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Well, now you've got someone that defenses, they're not going
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to be able to just kind of collapse knowing the kick outs
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coming because Jada is going to take it in there and she's going
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to score as well. So it's just another facet of
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this team. It's going to make it tough on
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opposing defenses. And can't forget about Kenzie
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Hare as well. Like coming back to there, she
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was injured and ended up getting a red shirt and they're they're
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getting, you know, what they needed out of her coming out of
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Marquette. And I think this has got to be
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one of the deepest teams that Finley's had.
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Evangelia Pulk BD the the freshman point guard.
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She's get giving them some good minutes so far.
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So there's so many options on this team.
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It's not, it's not even just like you'd say, the big three
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anymore because there's so many pieces surrounding them right
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now. Cyclonereport.com,
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cyclonereport.com part of on three media.
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Bill Seals has you covered for Iowa State.
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Great stuff Bill. Know that there'll be plenty of
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content recapping everything you've saw over the weekend and
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listen to here today coming up at Cyclone Report.
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Thanks Bill. Appreciate you coming on.
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Talk to you next Monday. Thanks guys.
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Yep, Yep, have a good one. You do the same, Bill Seals
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Bama Bob joins Trenton, is Trent's play still to come?
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Miller and Condon are on the Iowa Sports Radio Network right
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coming up on 130. Welcome back Miller and Condon
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talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Glad you are with us. Earlier I got a text about the
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2011 game six. Remember the David Freese game?
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Oh yes, Rangers cards. Love that.
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What? Let me let me guess what that
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was from. Yeah, you're right.
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Yeah, absolutely right. Is it Todd?
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No, it wasn't. It was holdy.
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Holdy. Yes, of course.
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We sent Holdy. Joel McRae sent Holdy and his
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buddy to a one of the World Series games.
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Oh, nice. Yeah, we got tickets here at
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Cakes, and we used to carry them right back in the day.
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All right, let's get to Bama. Bob.
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He joins us as we don't really recap the weekend, but there's
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certainly some big stories. More coaches walking the plank
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after the weekend. Any surprise you, Bama?
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Not really, you know, Locksley, I guess at Maryland, it was
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just, I mean, I don't know who they're going to get at
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Maryland. The tournament.
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I mean, I guess the Signetti success has now turned every
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middling program into thinking that they can, you know, compete
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for a playoff spot and maybe they can.
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I don't. I mean, who knows?
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But what, you know, Auburn, I don't think Auburn had a choice
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but to get rid of Hugh Freeze. You can't, you cannot lose 2:50
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at home to Kentucky to drop their record now to four and
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five. They're probably not going to
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make a bowl game. I think that the danger for
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Auburn is now, you know, this is the same guy that hired him.
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I think that's the same AD that hired Harson.
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I'm not sure. I know the strength you get.
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Yeah, I think, I think the, I think the former one may have
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been the one that hired Harson. I know this guy hired threes and
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now you know they're, they're in this cycle now, right?
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There's two other premier jobs open in the in the, in the same
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conference. You know, you're talking about
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LA, Florida, and then, you know, Penn State's open.
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And so now are you competing with Oklahoma State and Virginia
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Tech and you know who else? And let's face it, if Kiffin
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takes one of those jobs, Ole Miss is open.
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So you know, where, where are you in the pecking order?
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I think, again, I don't think they really had a choice.
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But I mean, the Sadie's put in his, put his onions on the
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chopping block, as they say, because he's basically said, I
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am the search committee. OK, So he's doing it all on his
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own. It's not going to, you know, So
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this, this is this is going to define his tenure without
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question. And if he gets it wrong, then
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he'll be out the door next. So I don't think you see all
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kinds of candidates floating around, crazy ones too, you
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know, assistants and everything else.
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They're going to want a proven coach.
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I just don't know that they're going to be able to get him.
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So yeah. And you know, other than that,
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it's just kind of, you know, I saw hypos that he kind of thrown
21:27
out there a little bit. And I'm like, there's no way
21:29
he's leaving Tennessee for Auburn.
21:31
Not happening. But you know, coming off the
21:33
loss to Oklahoma, the kind of probably knocks them out of the
21:38
title race. I mean, I guess they could get
21:40
in as a three loss team because they're pretty free quality
21:43
losses, but it depends on how the rest of it shakes out.
21:46
So yeah, business as usual in the SEC.
21:48
We'll get to the TV show in a second.
21:49
Trent just was the Big 12, maybe the conference that had the most
21:53
turmoil. This not necessarily turmoil,
21:56
but maybe the most clarity in one respect.
21:58
Me. The Texas Tech game opened my
22:01
eyes clearly. Conversely, Houston getting beat
22:07
that did that, that was certainly meaningful.
22:10
There was one other big game in the Big 12, I thought as well.
22:14
Texas Tech. I miss oh Utah, Utah taking the.
22:17
Cincinnati. So the Big 12, I mean what was
22:21
your kind of your take away overall as you think back to
22:23
Saturday? But it's still not over because
22:25
that's this league. I mean, would anybody have
22:27
Houston losing after what we saw the previous month at home
22:32
against a West Virginia team that looked dead?
22:34
They this conference seats their own young.
22:36
It it does, and that is the concern.
22:38
Now here's the good news. There's a path to two teams
22:42
making out of the Big 12. I've heard that a couple of
22:45
times for the first time. This was the first time I think
22:48
I've heard it this year. BYU runs the table.
22:50
OK. Loses in the Championship.
22:52
To 10. They would have to beat Tech
22:54
this weekend. Yes runs the table.
22:56
They finished 12 and O losing the championship in a rematch.
22:58
Tech gets in obviously with the automatic bid and BYU as an at
23:02
large at 12:00 and 1:00, they also get in the path is there
23:06
for two. You're kind of threading the
23:08
needle and it's a Big 12. Yeah.
23:10
So we know how that usually goes in this conference, but it is on
23:14
the table and it's on the table because how many ACC teams are
23:17
going to be there? What happens with Miami if if
23:19
they run the table, don't get to the championship?
23:21
You got to put them in over Notre Dame, don't you?
23:23
Don't results have to? I agree with your
23:25
wholeheartedly, Trent. Notre Dame best win is USC, yes.
23:29
You got the Big 10. The Big 10 might end up at 2:00
23:31
if everybody beats up on each other.
23:34
Oregon could still easily have two more losses this season.
23:37
Iowa, Colusa, USCUSC can stub their toe.
23:40
You're obviously Michigan loses at the end of the season to Ohio
23:43
State. All that plays out.
23:45
Then we're arguing about again, nine and three teams.
23:48
There is a path again for multiple Big 12 teams, multiple
23:51
ACC teams, and God, maybe 6 SEC teams.
23:56
Yuck. So here's BYU this weekend,
23:59
Texas Tech, then they host TCU at Cincinnati and then finish
24:05
with UCF. That's fascinating.
24:07
TCI like the way you're thinking that perhaps two from the Big 12
24:11
Bama what what what was your take away from the weekend
24:14
before? We kind of tried to speculate
24:16
what we're going to hear tonight.
24:19
Yeah, I think the the one for me was the Miami loss, I think
24:23
really shakes things up. And Georgia Tech losing also.
24:26
Yeah. Because, you know, those teams
24:29
don't play any regular season right now.
24:31
They're still kind of on track, I think, to meet in the ACC Oh,
24:35
you know, Virginia, Virginia's still hanging around there and
24:37
Pitt and Louisville. So I mean, you know, maybe
24:39
they're not on track. That second conference loss for
24:44
Miami is probably going to keep them out of the championship
24:47
game unless they can somehow get in one of these, you know, crazy
24:52
nutsoy tiebreakers. And they've already lost the
24:55
tiebreaker, I assume to to Louisville and SMU.
24:58
Although when it gets multiple teams, I don't you know, this
25:01
they just nothing makes sense because they take aggregate and
25:04
all that kind of crap. But I think, listen, this this
25:08
was the chaos weekend. I think because it it it wasn't
25:12
obviously Miami losing registered because they were
25:15
the, you know, top ten team. But I think you're right.
25:18
This opens the door for multiple bids from both the ACC and the
25:26
Big 12, depending, depending on who wins that.
25:31
Now, if Miami gets in and wins, I don't know that there's going
25:34
to be two. I don't think Virginia with one
25:37
loss is going to get in. I mean, I just should they I,
25:40
you know, you could argue it. I hope not too.
25:43
They're not a player. They're a fraud.
25:44
They're going to lose. They're yeah.
25:45
They're what are they going to do?
25:47
Let me let. Me doesn't matter, they're going
25:49
to that. That team is not good enough to
25:50
run the table. I agree but somehow they are
25:53
long season Wake Forest, Wake Forest, Duke and Virginia Tech.
25:56
And they might lose two of those 3.
25:58
Well, Duke will be tough. Is that Duke?
26:00
Duke's good. Duke's OK.
26:01
Duke's good for the ACC. Duke's ACC.
26:04
Good. Yes, exactly.
26:06
You have to qualify it. Yeah, I, I think, I do think
26:09
that this is going to be it. It's just going to be
26:12
fascinating. And then you do have the Notre
26:13
Dame question out there because you're right.
26:15
Really you look at it, who have they beat now?
26:16
They got two quality losses. But we're we're the we're the
26:20
solid wins, especially as Trent mentioned, you know, what, what
26:24
if USC goes on and loses another game or two, which could happen
26:28
not out of the question now that USCUSC is going to be your best
26:32
win. You know, Miami, let's say Miami
26:35
drops a third game. Now you're you've lost to a
26:37
three loss team. And and you know, and A&L right
26:41
now looks like they're by far they're they're quote UN quote
26:44
best loss. I mean, but are you going to
26:47
keep Notre Dame out of a playoff?
26:49
And I don't think the SEC is going to get 6.
26:51
There's no way the committee is going to put 6 SEC teams in.
26:55
They might get 5 depending on how the rest of it shakes out.
27:00
But I don't there's there's just they're just not going to give
27:03
the SEC half the field. I don't care what the record is
27:07
and what it looks like, they're not going to do it.
27:08
All right. I got a question for you, Bama.
27:10
Hear about all these quality wins for the SEC, one of them
27:14
like Oklahoma going to Tennessee, that's a quality win.
27:17
Yet what is Tennessee done to make that a quality win?
27:21
Tennessee has done nothing and, and there's a lot of these you
27:25
get because Big 12 fans, they look at it, you know, well,
27:29
that's not that good of a win yet.
27:31
Tennessee's beaten Syracuse, Mississippi.
27:34
These are powerful conferences. Syracuse, Mississippi State in
27:38
conference. Arkansas in conference.
27:39
Kentucky in conference. Yeah.
27:42
But Tennessee started the season ranked and because of that, they
27:46
stay, right? It's the gaming of the system
27:48
with the garbage 8 games that thank God, is going away that
27:51
the SEC gets away with year after year after year.
27:54
And we're going to have 5-6 SEC teams that are going to get in
27:57
there because you play 8 conference games.
28:00
It's gaming the system and thank God it's going away.
28:04
Thank God it's going away. So who are the let's let's get?
28:08
Texas A&M is 1, Alabama is 2, Georgia is 3.
28:11
Old Miss 4. Yes.
28:14
Yep. And then Vandy, Texas, Oklahoma.
28:19
Not Oklahoma. Oklahoma's Oklahoma's got tough
28:21
schedule ahead. Oklahoma's got to play at
28:23
Alabama, Missouri and LSU. But if they go 2 and one at 9:00
28:27
and 3:00. We're at 9:00 and 3:00.
28:29
Is that put them at nine and three put?
28:30
Them at 9:00 and 3:00. They would put them at 9:00 and
28:32
3:00 with three conference losses.
28:34
All right, let's do Vanderbilt. Andy has Auburn, KY and then at
28:40
Tennessee they have a playoff bid on the line there at the end
28:43
of the season. That tennis, that Bandy,
28:45
Tennessee game is going to be an elimination game.
28:47
Could. Be it could very well could.
28:50
Be What if Missouri beats A&M this week?
28:53
They got that quality win. Then they get Mississippi State
28:56
at Oklahoma and at Arkansas at the end of the year 9 and three
29:00
even with the lost Oklahoma. But a win over Texas A&M?
29:03
This thing is not over and I told you guys at the beginning.
29:07
I'm watching. I'm not.
29:07
I'm watching the show tonight, damn it.
29:09
I've talked me out of it. At the beginning of the season,
29:12
I told you at the first month of the season we're gonna be argue
29:15
about 9 and three teams again. We go.
29:19
Well, you do. That's what was going to happen
29:20
when they moved to 12, right? It's just like the field of 64
29:23
when we moved it to 68. Now we're arguing about 69 and
29:26
70. If we move it to 72, we're
29:28
arguing about 73 and 74. Who cares?
29:31
In the NCAA tournament, it's a little bit more in college
29:34
football because three loss team, three loss team can get
29:39
hot. You've got to win four games
29:41
instead of three. You're not going to have
29:42
probably any of them at home when you're certainly not going
29:45
to have the the first weekend at home.
29:47
You got to win three bowl games, but could happen.
29:51
But yeah, I just, I, I think the bloom is off the Vandy rose a
29:56
little bit now. They came back again.
29:59
You got to give them credit. But I think Pavia kind of showed
30:02
some shortcomings. But you know, what are they
30:05
going to do? I mean, Auburn is just an
30:07
absolute mess right now. Although I think they will be
30:09
better somehow. I think they'll be better under
30:12
DJ dirty because their defense has been good all year.
30:15
So that's their first game, you know, under helm this weekend.
30:19
They go to Nashville, but you know, they're going to be
30:21
Kentucky. And then that game in Knoxville,
30:24
I think who would have thought, right?
30:25
The same thing with Georgia and Georgia Tech.
30:28
I mean, that could be a knockout game, you know, for for one or
30:33
both of them. Well, if Georgia loses this week
30:35
to Texas. Yeah.
30:38
I mean, our next No, they're off.
30:39
It's next week. It's 2.
30:40
Weeks. That'll only be their second
30:41
loss, though. They're fine.
30:43
Who's Georgia? But if Obama's case, if they
30:47
lose to Georgia Tech, be out of conference, but still And Texas,
30:52
so is Texas alive, lost to Ohio State?
30:55
And who was their other Florida, right?
30:57
Florida. Florida's going to hurt them.
31:00
Florida's going to hurt them. I don't think Texas gets in as a
31:02
three loss. I don't, I I think the Florida
31:04
loss is going to hurt them. And if they?
31:08
Texas on the helmet, you know it is.
31:10
And they were #1 to start. The year they lose to Georgia
31:13
this week or next week in a in a tough game, you know they lose
31:16
2117, They beat Arkansas and then they beat undefeated A&M at
31:20
the end of the year. That's their signature moment at
31:23
the end of the season. They're putting the long holds
31:25
in. They're.
31:26
Going to be there. I don't think they're going to
31:28
be A&M, though. I think A&M might be the best
31:30
team in the country. See, I think it's a Big 10
31:32
school, so let's go there. Who's number one tonight?
31:34
Who's number 1? Trent.
31:35
I think they're going to create you think?
31:37
They're going to go Indiana. It's going to be Indiana, yes,
31:39
Yeah, because it's not real. It's ATV show.
31:42
This means nothing because guess what?
31:44
Next week they'll come back and the exact hockey food and they
31:47
will absolutely talk on their heads and spin around and here's
31:51
the plates over here. And then, oh, next week they're
31:53
over here because. Last week you said.
31:56
Oh, that doesn't matter anymore. That mattered last week.
31:58
Here's another thing that I am so excited to hear not watch
32:03
because I'm not going to watch the garbage.
32:04
But here is if they paint themselves into a corner like
32:10
they did last season going into the conference championship
32:12
games because what they did a year ago made them.
32:15
They had to put SMU in the College Football Playoff because
32:19
they said they didn't matter. It's time to walk that back and
32:22
they need to get in front of this and say we made a mistake
32:24
last year. Every game matters, every game
32:27
counts. And yes, if you qualify, it
32:29
shouldn't be disqualified. What if you get blown out in
32:31
that shape? It's still a data point.
32:33
And to say that it doesn't matter only if you win.
32:35
And even with you win last year, sometimes it didn't matter.
32:39
They need to make conference championship games matter again.
32:42
They're still playing the games. Let's make them really matter.
32:44
Although they're they're serious this year because you saw the
32:47
just saw the commercial where they took off their ball caps
32:49
before they went into the room they all had.
32:51
Oh yeah, Yeah. Well, that's a.
32:53
Drama, isn't it? It's ridiculous.
32:55
You know what? I'm going to be watching
32:56
tonight. I'm going to be watching to see
32:57
where BYU is, 'cause you're right, you're exactly right.
33:00
Are they going to rank BYU 678, something like that, and then
33:06
paint them into a corner if they keep winning?
33:08
You're right. And then they lose.
33:09
They're going to have to put them in even though they're not
33:11
deserving. BYU should be thirteen.
33:12
BYU should be outside of the top 12 right now in my opinion, even
33:17
as an undefeated, because I tell you who they beat.
33:19
You really look at that schedule.
33:20
Utah. I mean, good win, but two offs
33:24
team, that's all right now. They got a chance this week with
33:27
Texas Tech. That's a huge game.
33:28
So they beat Texas Tech, put them in, OK, put them back in
33:31
there. If they lose that game, don't
33:33
drop them from 6:00 to 12:00 if they lose, I mean, you know what
33:36
I'm saying? So just they should be out.
33:38
In my opinion, they should be outside of the top 12 or at the
33:41
very bottom. And then if they lose this game,
33:43
they're done. Unless they get back into the AC
33:45
to the Big 12 championship game and win it.
33:47
Then you know, obviously they get their shot.
33:49
All right, brother. Have to stop doing this.
33:51
Nice print says we have to stop it.
33:53
It's like last year with Indiana, you know, I mean, who
33:57
did they really be, you know, and then who do they lose to?
34:01
Lost one good game in the in the in the Big 10 championship game.
34:04
And they weren't a playoff team last year.
34:06
They are this year, but I don't think they were last year.
34:08
Who did you put in over them last year?
34:11
Oh God, I can't even remember. I mean, obviously Alabama.
34:13
Of course, the three lost Alabama team.
34:15
No, I don't know. I mean, it's I don't know who
34:18
got. I can't remember.
34:19
There were. I know it was Alabama.
34:22
South Carolina. South Carolina.
34:23
That's why Carolina was the thing.
34:24
South, I would have, South Carolina would have been my
34:26
third, would have been the one that I put in over the other
34:28
two, even though Alabama beat them by a point.
34:31
But you looked at the way they finished the year, I think seven
34:34
straight, whatever it was. But I don't and I can't remember
34:37
2 lost team that got left out. But Miami, yeah, Miami I mean.
34:43
Lost the Syracuse. There's still games that we're
34:45
going to play, guys. It's going to sort itself out
34:48
and then we'll argue at that point.
34:50
Yeah, but I want to keep arguing everything.
34:51
All right, we can do that too. Fun, right?
34:54
Absolutely good stuff. Bam.
34:55
We'll talk to you on Friday. Got a a pretty good slate of
34:57
games to opine on when you join us at 1:02 on Friday.
35:00
Have a great rest of your week. Bam Bob, thank you.
35:02
Thanks. Appreciate it.
35:03
Talk to. You Bam, Bob Trenton, I can look
35:05
back at college football. You think Indiana's going to be
35:08
1? I don't.
35:10
No, you think it's? Just I think it's Ohio, but I
35:12
get what you're saying. I mean, that certainly would add
35:14
to it. Ohio State's best win is what?
35:19
Texas. Yeah.
35:20
And week one, week one, yeah. Washington.
35:24
Washington. 'S good Washington's got a pass
35:26
to the playoffs Yeah, they do win out they.
35:28
Do Yeah, they're they're good. Because Washington, before that
35:32
Oregon game, they go to Wisconsin, home for Purdue at
35:37
UCLA. And then the Ducks, they're
35:40
going to be 9 and 2 going in that last one.
35:41
Probably will, probably will. Yeah, I could see that Indiana
35:47
beat at Oregon. Is that their best?
35:50
Win. Oh yeah, it's the best in the
35:52
country. Nobody there, because where was
35:55
Oregon ranked? That was after the Penn State
35:57
double. Overtime game.
35:59
Oregon's still ranked 6th in the country.
36:01
They won there. Nobody has a win like that.
36:02
No, no. All right, 145 Quinnon Williams
36:06
from The Jets to the Cowboys. So Jerry Jones wasn't just
36:11
bloviating last night. He had some moves up his sleeve.
36:14
A second round pick this year, a first round pick next year, and
36:18
a roster player. You know what, you're the 11th
36:21
best team in the NFC. You got to go out and make a.
36:23
Move right. What are they doing?
36:24
They're. 35 and 1. Yeah, I wonder if Jerry's sicker
36:28
than letting Audie start. You going all in now?
36:30
You just wonder. It's 145 trends.
36:32
Plays of the day are coming up next.
36:34
Miller and Condon, Glad you're with us on the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. I'm Miller and Condon.
36:38
Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio NETWORK.
36:44
Breece Hall's a chief. Yeah, you're rude in the studio.
36:47
You're throwing water around in there freaking out.
36:51
Now is this legit because I bought into Mike Locksley being.
36:53
He he has not been fired. That was social media guy.
36:56
Well, this was on ESPN. We both saw it on the
36:58
television. So yes, I believe this.
37:00
Is a 160th pick in next year's draft.
37:04
They get Breece Hall. Breece Hall, 4th rounder.
37:07
No one else decided that. You know what?
37:08
Maybe we should kick the tires on the Vikings.
37:10
Don't need a running back. They got Aaron Jones back.
37:13
I thought it got hurt again. Oh yeah.
37:17
That's the last thing that this organization needs, is Breece
37:20
Hall. Well, they got him.
37:23
Official Had they beaten the Bills?
37:27
But maybe some of the other teams.
37:28
I just, I just think somehow there's, there's something.
37:31
Look at the tinfoil hat coming out.
37:34
Of all teams that get Breece Hall, it's the Chiefs.
37:36
Chuck in your water bottle. I was.
37:40
Now I wish I would have had a camera out of you during Game 7.
37:44
That was your reaction to that. I could imagine how things were
37:47
going to the Miller household. When kinder Phil I forgot thrown
37:50
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38:57
Let's kick things off. I'm taking Robert Morris grab at
39:00
the 22. Why?
39:02
It's possessions, it's the defense.
39:04
I think you're going to see a little bit of a slugfest here
39:07
and I was inability to shoot. We'll see if that carries over
39:10
from exhibition. Give me the 22 1/2 with Bobby MO
39:12
going to grab the same points, 9 1/2 of them with the Texas
39:16
Longhorns against the Dookies tonight.
39:18
Boozer and company in that one. Like Texas.
39:21
Lot of new faces on that Texas team think they're going to pop
39:23
here and at least hang around. Get a late 10 1/2 with Stanford
39:26
tonight as they take on Portland State laying as well with
39:29
Wichita. Here's the big one.
39:32
I'm grabbing 35 points with Lindenwood tonight at Texas
39:36
Tech. All 35 and I think I'm going to
39:39
need every single one of them. We'll see how you do.
39:44
I can't get over this. This is legit right?
39:46
It was on the ESPN. It was after had it, so it's.
39:49
Brace Hall is a chief. My off the bench next Miller and
39:52
Conda. Thanks for being with us.