Latest / Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast / A Little Less Mess: [Louisiana] The Baton Rouge Serial Killer - Derrick Todd Lee
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- 0:20Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to us This Mess and the Drue
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- 1:18Speaker 1: talking about our lives. Sometimes we go through a true
- 1:21Speaker 1: crime documentary things like that. We're also on Instagram, Facebook,
- 1:25Speaker 1: and TikTok where I share our dinners each night. I
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- 1:32Speaker 1: true crime documentary recommendations as well as our dinners. This week,
- 1:37Speaker 1: we are in Louisiana. We have been covering the serial
- 1:42Speaker 1: killers that we're operating in the area in the Baton
- 1:44Speaker 1: Rouge area from the mid nineties to the early two thousands,
- 1:48Speaker 1: and so we have done two of the serial killers
- 1:51Speaker 1: so far. We'll do the other one next week. So
- 1:53Speaker 1: I'm going to start with the first one, which is
- 1:55Speaker 1: Derek Todd Lee. All Right, so let's get into it.
- 1:58Speaker 1: The story of the Baton Roots series. Their serial murders
- 2:01Speaker 1: began as a series of isolated investigations across southern Louisiana,
- 2:05Speaker 1: leaving multiple homicides unresolved for over a decade. So in
- 2:09Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, Connie Warner vanished from her home in Zachary, Louisiana.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Her body was found a week later near a lake.
- 2:16Speaker 1: She died from a skull fracture. Because Hurricane Andrews struck
- 2:20Speaker 1: the region two days after her disappearance, physical outdoor evidence
- 2:24Speaker 1: was destroyed Lacking forensic leads, police focused on Connie's ex
- 2:28Speaker 1: boyfriend and her daughter's boyfriend. Both faced years of interrogation
- 2:33Speaker 1: and suspicion before being cleared. In April of nineteen ninety eight,
- 2:37Speaker 1: a second crime occurred one block from Connie's former home.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Randy Jane Maybrewer was abducted from her residence. Her three
- 2:47Speaker 1: year old son walked to a neighbor's house alone the
- 2:49Speaker 1: next morning to report her missing. Police found a blood
- 2:53Speaker 1: stained house, but Randy's body was never located. Detectives focused
- 2:58Speaker 1: on Randy's ex husband, screening and interrogating him before ruling
- 3:02Speaker 1: him out. Lacking a body or weapon, the case went cold.
- 3:07Speaker 1: In September two thousand and one, Gina Wilson Green was
- 3:11Speaker 1: found raped and strangled inside her home near the Louisiana
- 3:15Speaker 1: State University campus in Baton Rouge. Because Gina lived alone,
- 3:19Speaker 1: detectives vetted local transients and professional acquaintances without success. Forensic
- 3:25Speaker 1: technicians extracted and preserved a seaman sample from the scene.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Now On January two thousand and two, jare Lynn Barr
- 3:33Speaker 1: de Soto was murdered inside her mobile home in Attis, Louisiana.
- 3:38Speaker 1: She was beaten stabbed and her throat was slashed. Police
- 3:41Speaker 1: immediately arrested her husband, Darren de Soto, based on a
- 3:45Speaker 1: neighbor's report of a past argument. Darren was held under
- 3:48Speaker 1: suspicion until initial DNA testing proved a foreign contributor killed Jarelynew.
- 3:55Speaker 1: On May two thousand and two, Charlotte Murray Pace was
- 3:59Speaker 1: attacked inside her her Baton Rouge townhouse. She fought her
- 4:02Speaker 1: attacker across multiple rooms before being stabbed over eighty times.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Forensic scientists extracted DNA from the skin tissue Charlotte trapped
- 4:11Speaker 1: under her fingernails during the struggle. The markers matched the
- 4:15Speaker 1: DNA profile found at Gina Wilson Green's crime scene, confirming
- 4:19Speaker 1: that a single, unidentified serial killer was operating in the area.
- 4:24Speaker 1: The body count continued to rise. In July two thousand
- 4:27Speaker 1: and two, Pamela Kennemore was abducted from her home. Her
- 4:31Speaker 1: body was found with her throat slit near the Whisky
- 4:35Speaker 1: Bay off ramp of Interstate ten. In November two thousand
- 4:39Speaker 1: and two, Trenisha Denay Colombe was abducted from a cemetery
- 4:43Speaker 1: in Grand Couteau and bludgeoned to death. In March of
- 4:47Speaker 1: two thousand and three, Carrie Lynn Yoder was kidnapped from
- 4:51Speaker 1: her Lsu apartment and strangled. Her body was left at
- 4:54Speaker 1: the same Whisky Bay site. A multi agency task force
- 4:59Speaker 1: was but investigators relied on a heavily on a profile
- 5:03Speaker 1: from the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, stating that the killer
- 5:07Speaker 1: was a white male between twenty five and thirty five
- 5:10Speaker 1: years old. This was supported by a witness who, under
- 5:13Speaker 1: police hypnosis, claimed to see a white man driving an old,
- 5:17Speaker 1: white pickup truck near a crime scene. But if you
- 5:20Speaker 1: are familiar with that area most work vehicles a white
- 5:25Speaker 1: pickup truck can be seen at any time. Based on
- 5:29Speaker 1: this profile, the task force collected DNA swabs from over
- 5:32Speaker 1: twelve hundred white men. Investigators received multiple citizen tips naming
- 5:37Speaker 1: a specific individual, but because that suspect was black, they
- 5:41Speaker 1: dismissed the tips and did not test his DNA for months.
- 5:45Speaker 1: The investigation was further complicated because other serial killers were
- 5:48Speaker 1: active in the Baton Rouge area at the same time.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Sean Vincent Gillis, a white male, murdered eight women between
- 5:56Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four and two thousand and four. Because Shawn
- 5:59Speaker 1: Mauch the FBI profile. His crime skewed the task force data,
- 6:04Speaker 1: causing police to treat separate murder patterns as the work
- 6:07Speaker 1: of one person. A third killer, Jeffrey Lee Gilliery, was
- 6:13Speaker 1: also active, creating further forensic overlap. The breakthrough in the
- 6:18Speaker 1: case finally came from a surviving victim and new technology.
- 6:23Speaker 1: In July of two thousand and two, a man entered
- 6:26Speaker 1: the home of Diane Alexander under the ruse of using
- 6:30Speaker 1: her phone. He attacked her, but Diane fought back, delaying
- 6:34Speaker 1: him until her son arrived and scared the assailant away.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Diane survived and worked with a sketch artist to create
- 6:40Speaker 1: a composite drawing. Because her case occurred in a different parish,
- 6:45Speaker 1: the task force did not immediately cross references. Desperate for leeds,
- 6:50Speaker 1: the task Force bypassed the FBI profile and sent the
- 6:53Speaker 1: crime scene DNA to a private lab for DNA phenotyping.
- 6:58Speaker 1: The results showed in eighty five percent probability that the
- 7:01Speaker 1: killer had African ancestry, with the white male theory disproven.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Investigators reviewed the ignored tips and found the name Derek
- 7:10Speaker 1: Todd Lee and matched his photograph to Diane's composite sketch.
- 7:14Speaker 1: On May twenty, two thousand and three, police obtained a
- 7:17Speaker 1: court order for his DNA which matched the crime scenes.
- 7:21Speaker 1: The unidentified killer was officially identified as Derek Todd Lee.
- 7:25Speaker 1: When the DNA match was confirmed, Derek fled Louisiana. The
- 7:29Speaker 1: US Marshall's Service Fugitive Task Force, the FBI, and the
- 7:33Speaker 1: Louisiana State Police tracked him using cell tower pings from
- 7:37Speaker 1: a burner phone and a wire transfer. Derek traveled north
- 7:41Speaker 1: to Chicago, Illinois, using an alias. Realizing authorities were tracking him,
- 7:46Speaker 1: he changed direction and took a bus south through Mississippi.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Triangulation eventually placed him in Atlanta, Georgia, where he checked
- 7:55Speaker 1: into the Lakewood Motor Lodge under a fake name. To
- 8:00Speaker 1: avoid suspicion. He hosted Bible studies for other guests. On
- 8:04Speaker 1: May twenty seven, two thousand and three, Derek saw his
- 8:07Speaker 1: photograph broadcast on a national news segment in the motel lobby.
- 8:12Speaker 1: He fled his room, leaving behind his clothes, boots, and
- 8:16Speaker 1: a bible. Within minutes, U s Marshals and Atlanta police
- 8:20Speaker 1: flooded the area. Officers spotted Derek walking down a sidewalk
- 8:25Speaker 1: near a tire shop. Agents surrounded him and Derek surrendered
- 8:29Speaker 1: without resistance. Following his arrest, the details of Derek's upbringing
- 8:34Speaker 1: an early criminal record were fully integrated into the case file.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Born on November fifth, nineteen sixty eight, in Saint Francis Fvie, Louisiana,
- 8:42Speaker 1: Derek was raised by his mother after his father, who
- 8:45Speaker 1: suffered from schizophrenia and psychosis, abandoned the family. Derek had
- 8:51Speaker 1: learning disabilities, attended special education classes, and dropped out of
- 8:55Speaker 1: school in the eleventh grade. Forensic psychiatric evaluations later estimated
- 9:00Speaker 1: his IQ at seventy five. His criminal trajectory began in
- 9:06Speaker 1: his youth with a fixation on voyeurism. Throughout the late
- 9:10Speaker 1: nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties, police in Zachary and Saint
- 9:15Speaker 1: Francisville received multiple complaints regarding Derek looking through windows. He
- 9:20Speaker 1: was arrested for voyeurism, prowling, and stalking. His behavior escalated
- 9:26Speaker 1: over the years to include residential burglary, criminal trespass, and
- 9:31Speaker 1: domestic violence, culminating in a two thousand conviction for severe
- 9:36Speaker 1: battery against his girlfriend. Because these early offenses occurred across
- 9:41Speaker 1: separate local jurisdictions, they were treated as isolated incidents, allowing
- 9:45Speaker 1: him to refine his stalking and surveillance methods undetected before
- 9:50Speaker 1: escalating to homicide. Derek was extradited to Louisiana and tried
- 9:55Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. In August of two thousand
- 9:58Speaker 1: and four, he was found guilty of first degree murder
- 10:01Speaker 1: for the death of Jarrelyn bar DeSoto and sentenced to
- 10:04Speaker 1: life without parole. In October two thousand and four, he
- 10:08Speaker 1: was convicted of first degree murder for the death of
- 10:10Speaker 1: Charlotte Murray Pace, where the DNA under her fingernails proved
- 10:15Speaker 1: his identity and he received the death penalty. Derek remained
- 10:19Speaker 1: on death row at the Louisiana State Penitentiary in Angola
- 10:22Speaker 1: for over a decade. On January twenty first, twenty sixteen,
- 10:27Speaker 1: he died at the age of forty seven from complications
- 10:31Speaker 1: of heart disease before his execution could be carried out.
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