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Chuck & Buck 7-1 Hour 4: One Series with Hugh Millen, ABC's of the Mariners and one last thing. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: One. Well, guess what things changed?
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  Speaker 2: We add four weeks, twenty opportunities for our experts, both
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  Speaker 2: locally and nationally to make sure that somebody covered Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams and Nick Emon Wore and you know what, they
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  Speaker 2: slipped through the proverbial cracks. And so Ashley and I
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  Speaker 2: put our heads together, We're like, we've got to cover
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  Speaker 2: those two guys, and we got to get our Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: insider and our top QB one analyst to break.
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  Speaker 1: Them down for us. So Greg joined us yesterday to
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  Speaker 1: talk Big Cat.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us now on the program is our own Hugh
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  Speaker 2: Millen here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM
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  Speaker 2: to talk nick Emon Warri. Can you believe we almost
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  Speaker 2: got through this process? He went out doing nick Emon
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  Speaker 2: Warre good to be with you? No, that would seem criminal, right, Yes, hey,
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  Speaker 2: throw me in the Brier patch. I have to talk
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  Speaker 2: about nick em Emon Warrey. Do we want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about Margot Robbie for a segment as well? I mean esus,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Prime Rib at the met These are a few
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite things, Chuck. Yeah, well, we knew you
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  Speaker 2: were the perfect guy for the job, So let's dive
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  Speaker 2: into this.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Emn Worri.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've had one year of experience with this guy,
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  Speaker 2: and man, how special was that? Yes, your general thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on what we saw out of this rookie one year ago?
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  Speaker 3: I think I think the thing for me is is
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  Speaker 3: you just have to look at his athletic profile. There's
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  Speaker 3: a reason why all the gms go to the combine
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  Speaker 3: and this you go back to the I believe eighty
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  Speaker 3: eight is the database. He's the only safety in combine
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  Speaker 3: history to be a six three year taller and run
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  Speaker 3: a sub four four. All right, He's the only athlete
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  Speaker 3: at any position to have a forty three inch vertical
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  Speaker 3: over two hundred pounds and oh, by the way, he's
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty pounds. And you know, it's one
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  Speaker 3: of four safeties in the history of the combine. Seventy
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  Speaker 3: eight inch wing spanner more and twenty plus reps on
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  Speaker 3: the bench, Like we can be here all night just
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  Speaker 3: doing these combo things. You know, he's an athletic freak.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's that, you know, you go back to
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald and he's looking at Okay, I want to
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  Speaker 3: have a guy with this kind of versatility and and
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  Speaker 3: and he acquired an athlete that he figured could he
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  Speaker 3: could mold. But Isaiah Simmons, you remember, you may have
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  Speaker 3: been in Phoenix at the time, but the Cardinals drafted
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  Speaker 3: a similar type of athlete, Isaiah Simmons a few years back,
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  Speaker 3: to play linebacker, and it just never came together for him.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not just that he's a freak athlete. He's
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  Speaker 3: got to be put in the right system, coached well.
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  Speaker 3: And he had a brilliant rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what does I mean?
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  Speaker 2: It's one of things. And then they're all great athletes.
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  Speaker 2: It's the National Football League for goodness sake. But to
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  Speaker 2: separate yourself from your peers like he did at the
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  Speaker 2: combine athletically. What does athleticism like that allow the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: to do defensively?
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  Speaker 3: A lot of things. Let's just start first with the personnel.
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  Speaker 3: So the Seahawks they were in terms of their use
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  Speaker 3: of nickel and and you know, he just lines up
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  Speaker 3: as a SAM linebacker. What's a sam. It begins with S.
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  Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. It's the strong side linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: Mike begins with M, so it's the middle. Will begins
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  Speaker 3: with W, so it's the weak side. So he's Sam linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: The Seahawks were number two in the NFL in terms
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  Speaker 3: of their use of nickel at seventy six and a
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  Speaker 3: half percent. The forty nine Ers were number one. But
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  Speaker 3: when the you know, there's thirteen personnel that the Rams
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  Speaker 3: were throwing at everybody, which is one running back, three
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  Speaker 3: tight ends, where they tried to play hardball, the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: were not going to be dictated to. They stayed in
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  Speaker 3: their nickel, and in fact, against thirteen personnel, the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: they were seventy two and a half percent staying in nickel.
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  Speaker 3: That was not only number one in the NFL, the
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  Speaker 3: NFL averages eleven percent, the Seahawks were at seventy two percent.
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  Speaker 3: Number two was the forty nine Ers at thirty three percent.
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  Speaker 3: So think of that, the gap between you know, forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers and thirty three percent, and the Seahawks hit
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  Speaker 3: seventy two percent.
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  Speaker 1: So they just they and.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, they would play a soft box in
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  Speaker 3: that they would have both safeties back and in fact,
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  Speaker 3: the Rams had forty four rushers against the Seahawks, where
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  Speaker 3: the Rams had thirteen personnel and the Seahawks had their nickel.
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  Speaker 3: Now let me explain explain what that means. If you
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  Speaker 3: go back to kind of before the personnel groupings, where
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  Speaker 3: you had what's what's called twenty one personnel regular personnel
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  Speaker 3: on offense, that's two receivers, tight end, two running backs.
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  Speaker 3: This is going back decades and forty nine ers still
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  Speaker 3: play that. It's not like it's gone. Then you'd match
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  Speaker 3: that with four dbs, so that the dbs are plus two,
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  Speaker 3: and then you say, okay, offense goes Nickel. They take
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  Speaker 3: a running back off the field, put in a receiver,
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  Speaker 3: got three receivers, well, our receiving. The offense goes eleven personnel.
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  Speaker 3: The defense matches with Nickel. So now that it's still
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  Speaker 3: a two plus two dB advantage for the defense in
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  Speaker 3: terms of personnel. When you we're going what I'm describing
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  Speaker 3: thirteen personnel, that's only one receiver, and the Seahawks have
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  Speaker 3: five dB. They're in a plus four, not a plus two,
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  Speaker 3: which is standard plus four dB, so they are extremely light.
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  Speaker 3: But the Rams tried to rush forty four times against that,
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  Speaker 3: they had a four point one average and twenty eight
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  Speaker 3: or three yards or less. So and by the way,
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  Speaker 3: the NFL average for all runs all teams is four
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  Speaker 3: point four, So the rams with the most you could
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  Speaker 3: possibly get from a personnel standpoint, if you're matching this,
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks held him to well below the NFL average
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  Speaker 3: and close to their own average.
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks led the NFL at three point seven and
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  Speaker 1: just they only.
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  Speaker 3: Allowed four point one when they were in this quote
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  Speaker 3: unquote disadvantage. So having Em and Worry out there and
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  Speaker 3: that front seven allows them to do a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things from a personnel standpoint, to not be dictated who's
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  Speaker 3: going to be on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that he's different and he can be
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  Speaker 2: moved around.
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  Speaker 4: That.
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  Speaker 2: You were saying all season long that he's a Sam linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: He's a Sam linebacker, and yet there were people sort
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  Speaker 2: of reluctant to sort of acknowledge that for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: But Mike McDonald by the end of the season he
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  Speaker 2: made it pretty clear. I mean, we've just got a
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  Speaker 2: really gifted Sam linebacker, right am, I right about that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he said that before the forty nine er playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: He just said, you know, we got to he's a
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  Speaker 2: Sam backer. And what I was saying was from a
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks perspective, if I'm studying Seattle the way they played him.
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  Speaker 2: He's a Sam linebacker and he now that would that
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  Speaker 2: would generally play him to the more often than not,
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  Speaker 2: to the field, to the wide side of the field,
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  Speaker 2: not the not the close boundary. When the Seahawks went dime,
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  Speaker 2: and they were doing more dime through the season, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: they had thirty six plays of dime in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Then they would bring Witherspoon inside. He would generally play
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  Speaker 2: to the field, and Emon Worey would play to the
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  Speaker 2: weak side. But when they played their standard nickel, you
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  Speaker 2: had Emon Worrey generally to the field, matching either formation
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  Speaker 2: and field, and they generally correlate. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: get to X, E and O in this, but and
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  Speaker 2: then you have Drake Thomas on the weekside that great
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  Speaker 2: interception he had against the McCaffrey in the Week eighteen game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the ball was on the right hash Thomas
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  Speaker 2: was into the into the short boundary, Emon Worrey was
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  Speaker 2: to the wide side. And what this does is it
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  Speaker 2: allows the Seahawks. Here was another part of it. The
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  Speaker 2: Seahwks what's called Cover four Cover six, and I'll get
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  Speaker 2: to that. Those are two high safety that's with both
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  Speaker 2: safeties back. That's not your Cam Chancellor in the box.
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  Speaker 2: That's both safeties back. The Seahawks were number two in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL to Jacksonville in Cover four, Cover six, but
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  Speaker 2: not surprisingly when they were in nickel and Cover four
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  Speaker 2: and Cover six.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you've got both safeties back. Now what that means
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  Speaker 3: I want you to imagine, uh that think of it
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  Speaker 3: like a baseball outfield and infield. We got four infielders
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  Speaker 3: three three outfielders that that would be what's called Cover three,
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  Speaker 3: Cover four, and Cover six. I'll just kind of meld
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  Speaker 3: them to that side of the field. They're identical. Imagine
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  Speaker 3: if you take the shortstop and you put them out
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  Speaker 3: in the outfield. That's actually what softball does, right, But
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  Speaker 3: now you only have three infielders. So in this analogy,
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  Speaker 3: it's the three linebackers that are close to the line
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  Speaker 3: scrimmage that Okay, now we've got one fewer guy, So
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  Speaker 3: imagine get back back to the baseball. The middle linebacker
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  Speaker 3: is going to stand on second base. Now, some of
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  Speaker 3: this baseball football analogy is going to break down, but
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  Speaker 3: I want you to imagine, now we're going to pinch
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  Speaker 3: our first basement and our third baseman in close to
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  Speaker 3: the second base because when we align back to football,
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  Speaker 3: when we align on the slot in these coverages that
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  Speaker 3: Emon Worry has to line up inside. He has to
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  Speaker 3: be in what's called an apex defender or an overhang defender.
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  Speaker 3: When there's a slot receiver out there, he has to
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  Speaker 3: be inside of him. But now, what did I say.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the wide side of the field. So he's
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  Speaker 3: got to line up inside of the slot receiver. But
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  Speaker 3: he's got the wide side of the field. Are you
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  Speaker 3: starting to see the ground that he has to cover?
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  Speaker 3: And get back to baseball. If we take our first
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  Speaker 3: and third basement and we we have to line them
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  Speaker 3: very close to second base, you'll say, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 3: groundball near first or third base is going to be
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  Speaker 3: a sure base hit. Well, that's where football differs from baseball.
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  Speaker 3: You have to guard the middle first and then react
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  Speaker 3: to the wide stuff. So imagine Emon Worry lining up
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  Speaker 3: as a first baseman almost you know, near second base,
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  Speaker 3: but he's got to cover all that ground to the
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  Speaker 3: first base side. So the scheme of this, when we
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  Speaker 3: take okay, his athletic profile, his length, and then we say,
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  Speaker 3: all right, we want to be number one in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL in Cover four and cover six. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: that's what where where reducing the number of defenders we
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  Speaker 3: have near the line of scrimmage? Well, whose is that tax?
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  Speaker 3: If you just asked me before they even draft Nick Eminoy,
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  Speaker 3: throw me up on a whiteboard and say draw cover
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  Speaker 3: four and and I and I say, okay, what for Mason?
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  Speaker 3: You want to three by one or two by two whatever?
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  Speaker 3: And and I'll draw you all the alignments that the
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  Speaker 3: safeties have to have and what have you and the
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  Speaker 3: responsibility for the sam backer and and you know, essentially
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  Speaker 3: I say, well, the sam becker, he's got to match
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  Speaker 3: the final number two. What is final number two? That
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  Speaker 3: means the second guy counting outside in. Well it might
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  Speaker 3: w I say final, It might be the running back
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  Speaker 3: he who aligns as the initial before the ball snap
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  Speaker 3: number three again counting outside in. So you tell em
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  Speaker 3: and worry you got to match number two. Well you
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  Speaker 3: gotta ligne inside in number two, and you got a
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  Speaker 3: match final number two. So so let me let me
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  Speaker 3: put it into a practical terms. They're playing the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers, emon, Worry, it's he's on the wide hash
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  Speaker 3: he's got he's he's aligned inside and over the slot receiver.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a give ground. He's got to redirect so
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  Speaker 3: that that slot receiver doesn't have fast access.
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  Speaker 1: Now the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 3: Create a McCaffrey in a final number two by even
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  Speaker 3: though he lined up in the backfield, he's he's out
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  Speaker 3: in the flat.
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  Speaker 1: They throw the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball to McCaffrey. Now, booms, freeze the tape. You're going, WHOA,
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  Speaker 3: that's a lot of space for em and worry to
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  Speaker 3: have to bring down McCaffrey. Well, he flies like like
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  Speaker 3: he's got a turbo button again to the white side
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  Speaker 3: of the field. Inside out, beautiful technique comes in. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: it was a flood concept and quarterback checks it down
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  Speaker 3: and it's like a two to three yard gain with
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  Speaker 3: a brilliant tackle and open space. But it's it's him
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  Speaker 3: using that athletic profile that he showed you at the combine,
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  Speaker 3: the length, the long arms, the ability to make tackles
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  Speaker 3: even if he doesn't get a clean hit on you.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful open field tackling. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: you say, that scheme works because you got a freak
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  Speaker 3: who is the sam linebacker?
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  Speaker 1: Because what did we do in this coverage?
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  Speaker 3: We took one guy away from line scrimmage to put
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  Speaker 3: him in the back end to stop the deep pass
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  Speaker 3: that put the burden on the stambacker. That's what I
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  Speaker 3: would have drawn up on a whiteboard with you before
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  Speaker 3: they even drafted Emon Worrey. So when you talk about
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton for the Ravens and you talk about Emon
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  Speaker 3: Worry doing this stuff, he's able to make these plays.
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  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, he had fifteen passes defensed.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was tied for fourteenth in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: I looked at the list. Every one of them above
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  Speaker 3: him was a cornerback, every single one. He was the
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  Speaker 3: hot He had more passes defense than any safety in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, and he missed three games.
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  Speaker 1: Now I get on. He was a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I get While you compared him to Margot Robbie,
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  Speaker 2: no matter who you match him up against, he's always
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  Speaker 2: gonna look like the better one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Marcot Robbie's a little dated, like my kids with
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  Speaker 3: food at me.
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  Speaker 1: He said, come on, man, you're that's so five minutes ago.
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  Speaker 3: But well let's talk about Nick even Worry. The uh yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's man, this is dB porn right here. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you got me going you, thank you. Yeah, even Warri Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what else we got?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about him the pass rusher, because
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling if Pete Carroll would have used
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  Speaker 2: him like Jamal Adams was used, He'd had forty sacks
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  Speaker 2: uh in a season. So on what does he bring
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  Speaker 2: to the table as a pass rush Let's get beyond
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  Speaker 2: his coverage skills and talk about that extra element.
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  Speaker 1: That he brings to this defense.
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  Speaker 3: He had sixty two pass rush snaps uh. He had
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  Speaker 3: a twenty nine nine percent pressure rate. I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: this until I did some studying for this segment. He
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  Speaker 3: was number two in the NFL in pressure rate. Now
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  Speaker 3: they're generally linebackers. And there's a little bit of an
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  Speaker 3: asterisk because Drake Thomas is number nine and I filtered
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  Speaker 3: and watched the entire tape of all of his pressures
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  Speaker 3: and and you know, it's it's it's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: scheme stuff. Again, Drake Thomas is number nine in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: And it kind of makes sense because what did I say.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say total number of pressures, I said pressure percentage.
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  Speaker 3: The highest def you know, Miles, to put it into context,
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  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett and Aden Hutchinson were tied it for seventeen
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  Speaker 3: and a half percent of there because they just have
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  Speaker 3: a lot more snaps, right, But Amon wore sixty two
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  Speaker 3: pass rush snaps and uh, you know, probably my favorite
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  Speaker 3: pressure that he had in the forty nine or Week
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  Speaker 3: eighteen game the Seahawks, they ran a zone pressure. Ultimately
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  Speaker 3: they just guys have been It ends up as a
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  Speaker 3: just three deep three under uh five man pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: In his zone pressure and Emon Worry he it's his job.
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  Speaker 3: He lines up like a middle linebacker over the ball,
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  Speaker 3: but it's his job to go slam the left guard
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  Speaker 3: of the forty nine ers and then have Leonard Williams
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  Speaker 3: loop around. So it's it's like a pick in basketball,
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  Speaker 3: right and uh, but a very aggressive pick because Emon
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  Speaker 3: Warry is gonna slam that left guard. Well. In the
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  Speaker 3: process of the forty nine ers, not to get into
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  Speaker 3: details that their communication wasn't good and they didn't handle
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  Speaker 3: the pressure well. Now all of a sudden, Emon Warr's
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  Speaker 3: on blocks. So from that position he has a starting
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  Speaker 3: and his acceleration is just insane. And and you know
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  Speaker 3: when we talk about a forty three inch vertical being
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  Speaker 3: the highest of anybody over two hundred pounds. That that's
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  Speaker 3: the that speaks to your explosion. You know what it
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  Speaker 3: was explained to me in the UW weight room that
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  Speaker 3: uh that these you know the vert and and your
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  Speaker 3: your power cleans. You know, that's strength over time, that's power.
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  Speaker 3: And so to be able to get your body at
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  Speaker 3: forty three inches, that just shows the explosions in his body.
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  Speaker 3: Back to the play against the forty nine ers, he
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  Speaker 3: finds himself unblocked and now he accelerates and it's like
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  Speaker 3: he got shot out of a slingshot and he just
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  Speaker 3: in about four steps it seems like he's going seventy
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  Speaker 3: five miles an hour right into the chest of Rock Purty.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just a wicked hit. And this was on
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  Speaker 3: third down and Purty dirts it over on the sideline
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  Speaker 3: five yards, bounces it, you know, punt forty nine ers
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  Speaker 3: and that you know those type of plays, that ability
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  Speaker 3: you know from scheme to be able to confuse the
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  Speaker 3: forty nine ers, but then that closing ability and with
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  Speaker 3: all that strength, you know, you know, he has the
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  Speaker 3: chance to be lethal and and and really just even
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  Speaker 3: even create more. You know, he only had two and
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  Speaker 3: a half sacks for quarterback hits. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: there's opportunities to really up that.
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  Speaker 1: He was just great.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, on the coverage piece, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned, you know how the Seahawks I touched on
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  Speaker 3: it in zone. Let me backtrack for a second, Chuck,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: if I can about it allows them to play those
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: those two high safety structures that we call Cover four
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: and Cover six, and and his role in man and man,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: he the way they they would just put him in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: an alignment and it didn't matter who it was. It
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: was generally the tight end. But he covered Christian McCaffery
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: several times on option routes and they didn't even throw
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to him. He had a pass defense in the in
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game, he had three passes defense. He's
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: the only rookie or sorry, he and Craig Woodson. There's
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: only two rookies in this entire decade that had three
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: pass defenses in a playoff game. But but uh Emon
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Warriy had it against the Rams, he had one against
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua and DeVante Adams, and earlier in the year
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: he had a pass These are all in man and
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: man situations where the Seahawks are they they put him
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: on these on Justin Jefferson, he gets a pass defense
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: and he's all madd he didn't get an interception. So
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: his versatility as a quarterback I'm looking at. You know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: there's a play against the Rams where where Emon Warr
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: is lined up on the tight end in the slot,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: and then the tight end he shifts out outside. Well
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: even Worry, Uh he he aligns with the tight end. Well,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: normally you say, well, if they if the defense bumps
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: that zone, if if they matched the way they did,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: that's man and man. If I'm a quarterback there, if
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I if I'm Matthew Stafford, I'm like, okay, that's a
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that's a man indicator. But then they play Emon Worry.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: They play it looked like it was gonna be a man.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: They disguise a snap of the ball, two safeties run back,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: and now you got Emon Worry. What's called cloud coverage
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: where he's the zone in the flat And for any
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: quarterback would have said, well, that's a man indicator.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: No, it was a cover two zone. It was almost
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the opposite of man.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: So that there he's got past defense pass defenses against
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the best receivers on the planet. And and the versatility
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: he has it allows him to do this. Now, I
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: heard some chatter that they had they had played him
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: at defensive end. I can't remember the Viking game or
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the Colt game, but whatever that chatter was, I went
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: back and watched it. Every I said, no, I don't
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: remember that. I would have remembered that. He didn't play
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: it down a defensive end.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: He played a lot of linebacker. He had, he had
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: outside linebacker he had. He had fifty eight to the
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: right side and fifty nine snaps to the left over
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the course of the season. But that's not that's not
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: a defensive end. And by the way, in the NFL
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: stat portal war, I'm getting all this stuff, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I line it up and I go, all right, just
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: defensive end. Show me the snaps on defensive end zero,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: there's nothing so so as versatile as he is, let's
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: not get carried away. He's a sam linebacker that can
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: cover and match anybody in the slot, no matter whether
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: it's Dvante Adams or Puka Nakua. And so there's incredible
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: versatilility there. He's got the strength to play hardball in
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the middle with the with the with the soft cover
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: with the two safeties back, and they can stop the run.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: He can run to the flat because he's such a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: great athlete, and his length, the way he takes on
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: blocks on bubble screens in the on the wide side.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I mean he took Kyle Yuschek, who might be a
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. He's the best fullback of his generation.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yushek was standing on the forty yard line even where
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: he came up and cracked him, and and Yushak's heels
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: went back to pass the thirty eight yard line, knocked
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: him six seven feet back. So he's got a physicality
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: using that explosiveness in his body.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So so I'll.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Talk all day long about his versatility, but in the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: context that that I'm describing, and and he may be
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a defensive end in the twenty twenty six, but he
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: wasn't last year.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, as we get ready for twenty twenty six,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm already like two three minutes over, so
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: quick answer on how good is he going.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: To be this year?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: How much better Softy we were talking about right off
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the season. I said, you know, take a bet on
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: emon Worry to be the NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Now,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: it's probably not going to happen. I'm not forecasting that,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: but I said it's sixty to one odds. Well, softy,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: he bought one hundred bucks, so he wants to know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: how does he get his six thousand on a one
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars bet based on that? Well, it's got to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: be splash plays and I'm reading right out of the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: portal of the NFL player defensive splash plays that's their term,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: not mine. He had twenty eight splash plays, which are
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: nine tackles for lost fifteen pass defenses. I said, four
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: quarterback hits, two and a half sacks, one interception, zero
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: fource fumbles. He's going to have to have something on
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: those charts. He's gonna have to up his splash plays somewhere,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: more sacks, more intercepts, Like he only had two and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: a half sacks and one interception. So even though he
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: was first in safeties and fifteen pass defense, one of
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: those stats is gotta raise. One or more of those
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: stats have got to raise. People are gonna talk about
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: him because the Seahawks defense, they're defending champions and everybody
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: knows they're the best defense on the planet at least
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: they were in twenty twenty five, and so he's gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: have that going for him, but he's gonna have to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: show some numbers in those categories.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: All right, man, great stuff, Thank you very much. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: love it. All right, Okay, Hugh mellan about pumpkin pie.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Next time, I'll tuckle anything anything fun. All right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: There he is, Hugh mellan joining us to wrap up,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and that is it. That's a final Seahawks one series.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: We had to get em and more in and turns
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: out he was the right guy to assign that job too.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, ABC's at the M's on Sports Radio
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM, Chuck and Ashley with you.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: We allow the alphabet to be our guide through a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: daily Mariner segment. Doesn't necessarily have to have anything to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: do with the game last night, but maybe it will.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Last night the team did win eight to three. That
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: had a five to nothing lead, nearly blew that and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: then answered a three run Angels seventh with three runs
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of their own, so a thirteen hit attack last night,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: eight runs scored in a moderately comfortable victory over the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Angels to push them back over five hundred on the
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: season at eight to three the final score. But we'll
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: see where the alphabet takes us. We left off of
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the letter g geus for Greg Maddox. Greg Maddox. This
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: is what he was famous for. He was a master
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and there was at the height of his career, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you can go look it up. Wait, he had hitters
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: so in the palm of his hand as a pitcher
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that he would go stretches of games where hitters would
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: swing at all all of the balls that he threw,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the pitches outside of the zone and take all the strikes.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That's how messed up. He had hitters that they were
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: sure that the balls that he was throwing, the balls
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that he was intentionally throwing outside of the zone, were
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be strikes.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And then they would float out of the zone.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And then the guys, the ones that they were sure
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: were gonna miss outside, they would cut back and cut
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: into the strike zone.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't do it every pitch.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: He didn't do it like every it wasn't anything like that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: but he did it so regularly to hitters that that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: sort of became his mo. Now let's bring this back
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: to the Mariners, because this is a Mariner's segment. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: saw really geous for gross moment for Cal Rawley last
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: night because he hadn't at bat. That was the anti
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Greg Maddox. He was the hitter who check swung at
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a pitch that was hittable but outside of the zone.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Then he swung out of his ass on a pitch
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: that wasn't anywhere close to the strike zone, and then
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: he took for strike three a pitch.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Right down the middle.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Oh man.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So the point is, Greg Maddox, he had you on
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a string when you were swinging at the pitches he
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: was throwing outside of the zone and taking the ones
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that he was throwing inside the zone. So as a hitter,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: what is the opposite of that? When you see your
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: best player, your MVP runner up last year, your sixty
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: homer hitter last year, who can't get out of his
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: own way this season, stuck on eight home runs, stuck
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in the one sixty batting average range, and you think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that he's starting to make progress. You have Ryan Healey
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: telling you on Tuesday, I see progress. It's going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: start clicking soon. And then he has an zero for
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: night last night and he hasn't at bat, which is
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: an anti Greg Maddox at bat.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about this. I'm really worried about this.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna be able to get where we want
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to go if this guy doesn't get on track.
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  Speaker 6: I would agree with that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And he has certainly not been to this point in
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the year, and last night's game looked like a backslide
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: for him, back to old habits again. So I'm a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: little worried right now about Cal and we need him.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: He needs to be good at least gas for good
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: even if he never reaches gas for great this year.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: He needs to be gas for good at the plate
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: otherwise we might not.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Be able to pull off the season that we anticipate.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely fair to be worried.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I'd think that he's probably worried about it because it's
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: very uncharacteristic of him. I mean, even before he'd had
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: his sixty home run season, he wasn't having a season
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: like this.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, ever, not even back to his rookie season,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: as he had a season like this as a hitter.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: All right, h is for.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Hell?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you tarps off, guys, you're a bunch of copycat weirdos.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: And I think you really just want people to see
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: your nipples. I think that's your motivating force behind what
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you're doing. And so I.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Don't like the tarps off. I don't.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's a copy of what the Cardinals have
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: done this year and started. I don't like roll call.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yankees fans have been doing that for forty years. Let's
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: not start doing that. That's Yankee territory. Let's not be copycats.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You didn't come up with anything original, But what you
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: did accidentally stumble upon as you were showing off your
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: nips last night was the potential for a phenomenal chant
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that everyone should adopt this moment forward. Can you imagine
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: how much the Woo chant could grow by the end
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: of the year.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. Got a new chant going
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: on here?
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: There is I got the tarps up. Guys with the
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Norway chant going on up there? Nope, Nope, that's not
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: what they were doing. They were starting to row. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: they were starting It's yeah, it's.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: The WU chant.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: They were starting the roll call, and they started with
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the pitcher. Now abandon the entire roll call that I mean,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: think about the noise that that generated last night in
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the broadcast, and that was just you know, forty shirtless teenagers,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you know, up in the upper deck. Can you imagine
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: if we start doing this when Wu's in big games,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: aheading the count, two outs, two strikes late in the inning,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the entire crowd starts building.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: Whoo who I love it?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Who like guttural?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And we got forty five thousand people doing that during
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, That'll be the most intimidating thing that's ever
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: happened to it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Hitter, I say, we embraced this one.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: We got to give the half nude boys credit for this,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: even though they stumbled up on it, and Aaron didn't pick.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Up on it, but been taking over.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think this is what I think. I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: think we gotta take. I got we got to run
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: with this one. I want to see this thing build
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and grow during the regular season, and I can't imagine
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: what kind of noise it will create in a stadium
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: come playoff.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, picture how loud it would be two strikes,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: two outs in the top of the six that T
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Mobile Park in a scoreless game October.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Imagine it starts in the very first inning.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, every time he's got two strikes, and then.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it just builds throughout the game.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And then the later the game gets, the stronger it gets.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think we're on to something.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Yes we are.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm all in tarps off. Guys.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: You may have come up with something and you did
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it purely by accident, but I'll give you credit for
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the rest of the season if this takes off, because
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the Woo chant could end up being special, I would agree,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: all right. Coming on next, one last thing, Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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  Speaker 1: These bricks are going quart bombing.
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  Speaker 6: They do go bonkers.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I mean lots of fans go bonkers over soccer, just
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: not us.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: They're down one goal and they're losing their ever living moins,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: losing their nuggins.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Yes, oh well, they'll drink later and then get the
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  Speaker 7: rings are out for Tea, give them some scones.
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  Speaker 6: They'll work it out.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. Final segment of the show today. By the way,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: one nothing congos up on England. That's why they're going
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: flat bombing. We have one last thing to close out
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: every show. What do you got, Ashley?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: So Wimpleton, as we know, is going on, and r
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Rory's there.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Rory he's a brit.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, and he is wearing his Master's green jacket,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people have a lot of mixed
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: emotions about it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Oh why is he doing that?
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, why not?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: You're at another massive sporting event. Why not show it off.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: After Bryson Deshambeau won the US Open? When was it
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: last year?
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Two years ago?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: He took that trophy everywhere, So you get a jacket,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: it's your I mean, I guess it's better than taking
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: the trophy with him.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Quite some time ago, or you're not supposed to wear
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it like his.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: He's wearing it like a jacket. I wonder if he
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: lost a bet.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe that was it, maybe finished last in his fantasy
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: football leagure.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: And they're like, you got to wear a master's jacket
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: to Wimbledon. But yeah not some people are like it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Some people are like, well.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: That's terrible, and other people are like that's awesome. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: didn't have one thought one way or another. I was like,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: all right, cool, he's wearing his Wimbledon or his Master's jacket.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I go as far as terrible.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go tacky. I could see
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: body like I'm gonna go that. I think it's closer
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to terrible than it is cool. I'll say, well they are.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not the only one there. Justin Rose is there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Tommy Fleetwood is there, and he is in his green
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: jacket and they're all smiles.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: That is strange.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Someone said it feels like emotional abuse for Rosie because
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: poor Justin Rose.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, did Matt Lionert take his heisman trophy to dinner?
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Probably would have to the hot tub, that's true.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe a bad example.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would Eric Crouch take his heisman trophy?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Probably would have the party.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: The only trophies get.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I do know that seems a little tacky to me.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Michael Phelps wears gold medals out on the town.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: No, but I mean you do see like people go
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: on TV shows or make appearances and do things and
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: they wear all their rings or their metals.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: They bring them different.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So but maybe they said, like, hey, would we're gonna
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: give you these ceaseful you wear your master's jacket.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Maybe they said that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Somebody called Jack Jack is the guy that would know
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: protocol here.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Is that in bounds or is it out of bounds?
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: Is that a I think that's.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: A good one to Yeah, Jack would know, he would know.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Jack knows, and whatever Jack says goes. I think they
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: have those bracelets. W W what would Jack do?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I think there's a call to Jack, Like I say, okay,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just for the for the future of everybody wondering if
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: they should wear their green jacket somewhere. Yeah, what's the rule, Jack,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You make the rule?
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Maybe he'll start a trend. I mean you think you
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: when when a team wins the Stanley.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Cup, when each player gets that trophy, they take it everywhere.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: What if he spills ketchup on his.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I think they've got dry cleaners for that. I don't think. Also,
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: I don't there's not a lot of ketchup uses. What
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: he snags it? Well, well there's a tailor for that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 6: I hear you, but I don't mind. It doesn't bother
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  Speaker 6: me either way.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what does bother me.
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  Speaker 2: My one last thing, who's the person that put the
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  Speaker 2: foot down on the piggyback thing? Not that I'm sad
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  Speaker 2: that the piggyback's not around anymore, but who decided to
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  Speaker 2: go to the six man rotation. Who's the person that
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  Speaker 2: threw the fit. Who's the person that in a meeting?
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  Speaker 2: Was it Jerry?
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  Speaker 1: Was it Justin? Was it Dan? Was it Pete? Was
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it player cal? Who made the.
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  Speaker 2: Decision that what we're going to do? Because I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind that the piggy I understand that there were problems
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  Speaker 2: with the piggyback, right, but there were there have been
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  Speaker 2: a lot bigger problems with the six man rotation.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the six man rotation was the only thing
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  Speaker 2: that was we got terrible results from. We had to
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  Speaker 2: not you our bullpen for two straight days in Baltimore
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  Speaker 2: because of the six man rotation.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to know what happened to it because
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  Speaker 2: it certainly got brushed under the rug. It's not been explained.
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  Speaker 2: I just had Ryan Heally on yesterday and asked him
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  Speaker 2: about what we're going to do going forward, and he's
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  Speaker 2: he's on Mariner's TV. He's like, what happened to the piggyback?
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  Speaker 2: I like to know the answer for why we're not
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  Speaker 2: using why it was scrapped.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I don't have a problem that it was scrapped.
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  Speaker 1: I realized it wasn't a perfect solution.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody ever tried to play it off that way, including
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Jerry and Justin, but for them to just decide Saturday, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're not doing it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce and Luis, sorry you had to do it four
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: times each, but we're not going to do it anymore.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And now there's not even any mention as to why
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: we've gone back to the one thing that wasn't working before.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: It seems to be working fine now. The Logan was okay,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and George was great, and Brian was great last night,
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  Speaker 2: so seemed to be on a.
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  Speaker 1: Little bit of a roll with it.
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  Speaker 2: But where was the explanation as to why we're scrapping
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  Speaker 2: something and going back to something that was worse and
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  Speaker 2: less effective.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And that's the thing that I don't understand is
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: that you were on the day of all of a
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: sudden they were just like, oh, yeah, we're scrapping the
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: piggyback today, Logan's going on his normal and then Emerson
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Hancock the next day instead of piggybacking them, And it
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: was so what.
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  Speaker 6: I heard, So Logan doesn't get out of rhythm.
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  Speaker 4: Which makes no sense. Logan was the starting pitcher. He
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have gotten out of rhythm. I wouldn't assume because
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: his rhythm stays the same. He's still starting.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were saying, he's been so good four
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  Speaker 2: starts in a row, we don't want.
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  Speaker 1: To mess with that, and I understand that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But then then we go Emerson, and then we
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: go George, and then we go Brian.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and either everyone's going to do it or everyone's
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: not going.
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  Speaker 3: To do it.
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  Speaker 1: You better never make Bryce do this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: No, then that would be ridiculous. If all of a
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: sudden they decided to bring it back, you're either you
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: got to just pick something. I just assume the only
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: time we scrapped it would be when they figured out
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: someone was going to the bullpen.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: But I think everybody's I kind.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Of thought that's what the plan was.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do this piggyback, and then when we
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: get done with the piggyback, then we're going to decide
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: somebody's going to the pen. Yeah, But instead we went
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: back to the six man rotation, which was far worse
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  Speaker 2: or far less effective than the piggyback ever was.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, I don't get it weird.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Maybe we'll talk about it tomorrow, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: it We'll just keep it a mystery, all right, that'll difference.
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