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Schrödinger’s Money: PAX East, E3 Cancelled & John Romero Honoured · Multiple Nerdgasm

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I am part of a very special task force I'm going to be part of an investigation
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I need to go through hundreds of hours of video footage in what I'm calling the gnome
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investigation welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things
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nerdy the gnome investigation I may have to come up with a better name I don't
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knowy I've got at the moment someone stealing garden gnomes from your house
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yeah yes and no someone leaving garden
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gnomes at your house possibly so we had four garden gnomes me and Hanah painted garden
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gnomes over the years at fard we go there we paint gnomes we put them out in
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front of the house as you do yeah okay two are currently
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missing two have been repainted what
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what two have been repainted and they've had like little details added to them
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and freshened up and then two so taken and then returned so yes and these two
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might be return Tak and may coming back details as well good like someone's done
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a good job of it I wonder if it's the person who's mowing your lawn probably
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wow so whoever's looking at the lawn going I need to cut that has also going
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who the [ __ ] painted this what got my ring camera I've got my camera doorbell
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and I'm going to go through but I don't know what time frame cuz you don't
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really pay attention to noes at the front so it could have been yesterday it
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could have been two months ago that this happened that's so strange but cool is
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are there people in your neighborhood that you know that you might suspect or
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not not no who would you suspect well I don't know if you have a neighbor who's
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a bit of a pranker like I wouldn't do that unless I knew the person in like the ' 80s '90s
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you sort of I knew people around the neighborhood and you there are people
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who might do but now I have that again now where I live
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yeah yeah I'm friends with all my neighbors and we do stuff outside our
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houses in the evenings our kids play together yeah yeah I don't do that oh no
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it's incredible I never knew I wanted that until I had it and now it's amazing
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I got to play with the coyotes I guess you could yeah yeah maybe keep an eye on
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her why she's playing with the coyote don't to keep an eye on her when she's
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outside mate you got to keep an eye on her when she's at [ __ ] school yeah I
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at another shooting another school shooting do we have to talk about this
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it's a [ __ ] problem it's a real problem you have to tell me [ __ ] hell
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did you see Jo when they cut to Joe Biden who was doing a press conference
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about it he was just making jokes about sneaking upstairs or downstairs to get
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ice cream and stuff God he [ __ ] loves I don't think he knew the cameras were
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on that they'd cut across but so that's you're getting ready to announc
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about when are we going to really talk about this it's it's a [ __ ] real
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problem now it's not appropriate obviously but then again we'd be doing
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the same thing right we're not presid be with the president no no no of
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course I'm aware of that yeah no no it's it's it is a
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problem and I think it's worse that like some of the Governors and whatnot were
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posting pictures of their families holding guns being like Oh you know
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Jesus like wa what are what point are you trying to make that's the answer
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more guns yeah that's what they think so
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that's not how Max works that's not how terrible thing about going into the
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comment section oh don't do that I was reading comments and someone saying like
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oh in Australia and England like we had an incident we did this and they went
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well you don't have like um like Mexico below legal immigrants coming in all the
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like they're not doing the shootings the one no I think I think they're saying
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they need the guns to shoot at the Mexicans okay there's there's there's
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two things that are a factor that were not factors in both those cases UK and
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Australia one is that both those countries are surrounded by water which
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does make it more difficult to get weapons in right but not impossible
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right but the other thing is there weren't as many guns in either of those
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countries as they are here they're [ __ ] everywhere well you can buy them
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at Shops there that's what I'm saying and like to get them all back is just
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aot in inconceivable like they're not going to give them back so it is
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different by you know yeah because I know that pretending problem helps like
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they did the buyback scheme so everyone just bringing guns we will buy them back
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but I think the population attitude was pretty different like to here here
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they're like you have to [ __ ] kill me to get him well he I could still go and
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get a gun I could still go and get a gun all right all right easily whoever's in
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charge of that do not get no no but still it's not it's not
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you can still get a gun in AER if you want it's just you have to jump a hell
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of a no no I can just I want to do target shooting yeah that's a reason
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yeah here you don't even have to give one yeah and you have to continue to do
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target shooting or they take the license away you also need to do shooting like
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go to Target Rangers every sort of 6 months to keep your license and do all
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this stuff it's not just a you want a gun okay yeah here I just go Um what are
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you going to do with it I'll pop it in my glove box in case I need it okay do
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you know how to use it no no seal carry in case I see a Mexican I'll figure out
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how to use it when I need to he when I went to
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and Hannah went to the shooting range cuz I still love shooting oh yeah we
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went to shooting oh yeah let's not pretend it's not fun to shoot guns
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that's not what I'm saying I've never fired a gun guys I've never fired a
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handgun before I've always shot like rifles or shotguns so like they hand it
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over to me and they go and I go what do I do with it like they just handed me the
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bullets and the gun you load it you're in that lane yeah you load it all and
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I'm but I don't know how to load it no so oh yeah you do this way you go the
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only time I've done hand it to you preed some people here wouldn't expect people
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our age to say I don't know how to do that I now know how to the what happens
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Matt is that somebody hands you a gun and goes do you know how to use that
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thing and then you do all sorts of things to prove in the leg Yeah yeah
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then go no I don't no absolutely call ambulance yeah and in fact I shouldn't
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have this yeah you know what I'll go I still laugh at the one rule they had
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there at the r over there one Ru you can't
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have a guy can't go by himself no the Only
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Rule but there's probably more rules a guy can't go by himself groups or single
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women they have to go in groups yeah but they single women can go cuz they
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they're leting to shoot but I'm sort of like two men going together that's when
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they're going to do stupid [ __ ] no no no it's it's it's when one guy goes in each
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day alone with his trench coat and goes I need to learn brought my own targets
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yeah I'll pop him up there it yeah it I
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that's what I call my ex-wife oh yeah don't let Luke have a gun no which kind
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of handgun did you shoot Luke was it a a revolver or a pistol it was just pistol
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so it was like a 9mm I wanted to shoot a revolver but I forgot I did them both in
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succession it's the only time I've ever I've never fired a rifle or anything
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I've just I've just done a 15minute session with a revolver and a 15 session
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with a pistol the revolver is so heavy like when you see people in movies
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holding them they they're not going oh [ __ ] ow like it was so heavy and then
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you pick up the pistol and it doesn't even feel like metal it's so light it's
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it it both baffled me I was surprised on both ends there's a uh shooting range just up
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the road I could go do it I suppose yeah it's called the woods outside your house
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M you can do that too but um I don't know exactly what the rules are about
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that people do it cuz I can hear it sometimes but yeah I don't know exactly what the
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rules are can you stand on your own property and shoot onto somebody else's
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property that seems like something you shouldn't do I don't know you can't prove that I
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do know no no no but for example no what I mean is um like if a deer if somebody
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was hunting and a deer wandered onto your property do they have to be like I
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don't think so I'm pretty yeah I'm pretty sure you can't shoot animals on
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my property yeah because I know the guy over the back so cuz behind me is like
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like 40 acres or something and it is owned by somebody and I do know from
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talking to my other neighbor that he does not like hunting and he'll trash
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people's stuff if he finds it on his property right he always they build that
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little H Hut in the tree yeah yeah or he finds trail cameras he'll he'll get rid
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of them right which is fair it's his property yeah oh absolutely yeah and cuz
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the deer come through here and I like them lra [ __ ] loves them that she
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stand we get home from preschool and she'll um walk down the dri and go dear
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dear into the woods yeah just hoping one
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say hi yeah I told her comeone you call the more you call them the further
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they're going to run away yeah she doesn't understand and then she uh she uncocks the
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rifle and then I'm like actually could you teach me how to use that yeah she
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said better than I don't Dad yeah yeah right you can't be trusted Dad no but
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that's the thing and I don't want to make this all about the [ __ ] the gun
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issue but if everyone's got a gun I would prefer everyone knew how to use
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them I think the only thing more dangerous than a skilled gunman is an
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unskilled gunman yeah well you hear you see stories all the time about how
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people shoot themselves when they're going to use the gun so there was a
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robber who was I think it was PlayStation 5 release or something go
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midnight launch robber comes up kind of guy like give me the gun he [ __ ] the
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gun twice oh no but because there's already a chambering around he shot
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himself Jesus and that's from not knowing how to use a gun I mean
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definitely do that it definitely looks cool yeah but it doesn't look shooting
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yourself back you don't need to slide it back that's just a
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loal uh let's move on let's move on from anything else political how's Jeremy Rena
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doing he's all right although good I was somewhat shocked only because I I guess
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I didn't understand the extent of his injuries fully he's just managed to walk yeah
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right I know they said it was very bad but I didn't think it was he was that so
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what did he get caught up in like a combine harv or something giant snow
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plow like a giant machine but not like a
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just a normal no no truck one like a
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huge up in Vermont someone said that's what Jeremy Runa got run over by and I
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was like [ __ ] right like they're massive yeah driven by Alec
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Baldwin who is now on the running Vermont again yeah yeah I didn't turn the
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[Music] ignition but yeah just I mean I'm glad he's all right I just assumed he was
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more all right than he apparently was but uh I'm very glad he's all right I I
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think Jeremy Rena all around seems like a nice guy and maybe that's just because
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he's Hawkeye and I you see him on the farm with his kids and all that but I
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just I just assume you can't pretend to be that if that's not who you really are
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the only thing that weirds me about Jeremy Rena and I know this is probably
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not even his fault or anything to do with him personally is that he had his
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own he tried to launch his own social media app that was just pictures of him
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oh he did didn't he yeah and I thought that was had pay narcissistic yeah exactly no
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to join you had to pay to to boost your post so that he might see them and he he
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might comment on them maybe it was all very weird is there but
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this is very new to that sounds like something a publicist came up with he
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was probably embarrassed by it yeah oh he didn't even know about it maybe
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that's yeah exactly yeah and they're like coming on those photos all right
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yeah I'll do that just go through yeah okay fine can I do it after I play the lawn or yeah
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should have said no look I'm happy he's okay and I know what it's like to learn
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to walk again it sucks Jesus yeah so there's my daughter well only the first
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time yeah but the second time you don't get people cheering for you and go yay I
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bet you [ __ ] do mate that can't be true N I bet you do you physiotherapist
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G does that hurt good do it again Jesus it's got to hurt sure that was a
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physical therapist I think that was just some drunk behind the
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no physiotherapists I love them and hate them cuz they're thereare to help you
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but a lot of times they're helping is making you do stuff that you're not
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going to Wi I had I had some knee pain and I went the doctor said go see this
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Physio and I was like oh I'm going to get a nice massage or something out of
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this no [ __ ] torture me mhm but did you feel better after it yeah my knees
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are way better than they really okay yeah yeah he gave me some exercises that
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it was good but it was I was like like you know he's like Crouch down Sit
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against the walls see me squatching do against the wall this kind of stuff and
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I was like this is [ __ ] torture H you got s KN and so you went in and he
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was like well I'm going to make that really [ __ ] sore till it's not sore
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anymore yeah now Matt you did something very exciting over the weekend that I'm
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very jealous about go on you went to PAX East I did I did go to PAX East I was
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only able to go on the Saturday and the Sunday cuz I I would I've been away in
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uh on at Adobe Summit Which is less interesting than PS we
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could still talk about that a little bit later if anyone which I found out cuz my
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neighbor works for and uh the Adobe Summit was on the same day as the canvas
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Summit and uh I thought that was interesting both similar topics I assume
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L AI stuff yeah it was it was pretty interesting but Pax is a lot smaller
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these days is it I have to say yeah uh no major Publishers I think Focus
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interactive was the biggest publish wow mhm I don't even think I could be
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wrong I don't even recall tiny build having a booth which is very
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unusual cuz I know like I love like going down that huge escalator and like
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you look out over the floor so that not all the way back sorry Nintendo was
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there uh yeah but what were they showing off they had was Sonic there was some
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some you know the new Zelda stuff I don't think it was playable but uh and
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then there was like the you know the Yoshi's yarn game that they've got going
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on um but I don't think anything new new Splatoon 3 are they after Splatoon 3 is
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it still two well Splatoon two's out yeah it must be you know what maybe it
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was just stuff there but I don't know I don't know Nintendo so yeah yeah oh no
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there is a three evidently yeah okay I think that might have been what I was
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showing that's how much I know about Nintendo it came out last
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year but yeah so the the tabletop area seemed like it was the same size as
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usual which is interesting um look about the Indie space cuz that's lots of Indie
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stuff it was mostly Indie stuff and I think the the biggest most impressive
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Booth was the um Cult of the Lamb expansion was there and it's just funny
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to me that like Cult of the Lamb was there last year as well and it was kind
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of like a you know like an indie siiz booth and then I feel like it was like
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the biggest most elaborate one this year just different just I think I think
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they're still finding their after the whole lockdowns and everything being
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canell so we still have to wear masks all the time which you know I'm fine
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with that I was surprised by it given America oh there's no there's nowhere in
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Australia you have to wear masks anymore well it's weird yeah cuz like even in um
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like don't need to wear a mask yeah no you don't anywhere else here um not even
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at the doctor anymore but yeah it's just sort of weird that they still have there
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although does sort of Mak sense because people go to that and get sick the I
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think that last year I mean maybe
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they're just being cautious anyway but it wasn't a big deal so the tabletop
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area was was was like normal size the games area was much smaller to me seems
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about half the size and then in the middle were kind of like food trucks in
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a circle or Square rather kind of taken up that space which I thought was
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interesting yeah uh yeah so give the impression it's completely full but kind
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of yeah yeah and cuz Jen and I were saying like all the booths that were
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there were still packed in as if there was n room for them to be spread out and
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I don't know it might I don't know what the decision there was whether it was
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like to create a more intense experience where they were or if it was just
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because they weren't sure yeah I find it so strange I know the Australian one
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it's even last year even though some of like the major things weren't there but
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everything was still sort of exactly the same like the layout from front to back
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yeah so sort of strange it's not getting the same over in Boston yeah it's just I
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like they know Facebook who had a big presence one year yeah Facebook had a
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big Oculus Oculus stuff they had massive Booth last time either last year or the
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year there wasn't one the year before whenever the one before last year was I
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get confused about them they all blend in together yeah but no ex no no
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Microsoft no Sony no
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square no yeah for Xbox Microsoft we had a len Lenovo booth that they teamed up
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with so it wasn't Microsoft Xbox exactly it was Lenovo and they showing off all
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the Xbox stuff yeah but what some fun stuff you saw it was just it was just a
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lot smaller in general one thing I did know and it made me a little not worried
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about packs because I think packs will continue regardless even if it's
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different now even if it is IND stuff but I noticed not a lot of PA Penny
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Arcade themed panels and things anymore like didn't do make a strip they did the
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two Q&A panels on the Thursday and the Friday but it's Jerry and Chris stra now
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cuz mic doesn't go anymore and uh it's it's kind of like the stuff that I used
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to do at packs most isn't there so much anymore like oh they had Acquisitions
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Inc but they do that then now they're doing a web series of that too which is
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a Kickstarter for that's one thing I was looking at while I was there there was a
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Kickstarter for for call they're calling it season two of acquisition Z Mike will
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be in that because it's just going to be online so it's them playing Dungeons and
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Dragons again just online and uh yeah so I don't know and then couple that with
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we've got some other news this week about another Con well not really a con
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it used to be a trade show it's kind of morphed into more of a con but uh E3
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canceled yeah again yeah because of lack of interest from Publishers and it just
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made me think maybe these big Publishers just aren't going to do this [ __ ]
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anymore no I think E3 I think the problem is with E3 E3 comes along it's
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everything everyone goes to it and then every all the big Publishers go we're
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not going to go to it anymore but we're going to have a show on over here at
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side and they do their own thing E3 Bally
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ad but they're going andri so they're not going to do it because everyone has
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their own um EA did Microsoft did Sony did Nintendo they all had their own E3
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event but wasn't at E3 but makes me but I mean if that's the case why like would
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they still do packs then why would they bother doing packs if they're not going
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to do E3 because E3 is no longer industry it's it was going to be open to
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the general public so it's just basically packs again but in Los Angeles
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really so I don't know it's also run by readed pop which
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is the same company that runs packs now so I don't know it just depends on I say
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keep an eye on their side shows I think that's what they'll decide yeah because
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I hly think they'll just using E3 to they getting the advertising they're
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getting the interest from it but they're not contributing to it directly and I
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think that's why yeah cut it but they can't just keep doing that yeah I just
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wonder if paxel become smaller like will they still try and fill a big venue like
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that here I mean maybe I'm just mistaken maybe this year was an anomaly they just
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just like I said we walked in I was like oh it's quite small I'm shocked because
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I thought that would be bigger than CU australas was great again like it's we
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still had yeah the flure was the same the board game and well really the stuff
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I go for was all the Indie and the board game stuff yeah and so those areas sort
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of remain the same cuz crol again play kenol [ __ ] great it's like like a
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it's like a y oldi game where you have like a circular wooden kind of board
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made up and you with put you know you know that game where you play where you
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kind of throw the pucks along I think they do it sometimes with with beer
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glasses and you put the little wax on the wood almost like bowling but you
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slide something instead some is it called sounds dangerous with be glasses
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yeah I forget what it's called anyway this just a game you played in a pub no
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no no this is this are packs they're there every year uh and what we talking
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about we got to buy one of these boards it's just cool it's like a big circular
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board with like circles in it and then you flick these little pucks it's a
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Canadian game yeah okay you familiar
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with it yep I know what it is now crool you got to flick it and try and
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traditional dexterity game yeah are you trying to get your the
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one you flick into a hole you're trying to hit one into the hole there's a hole
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in the center if you get yours in there and and it's a valid shot there are
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certain other parameters that determine what's a valid shot but if you get yours
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in there then that's 20 points and you can take it out and pop it in the side
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and those points can't be taken but anywhere else on the board where you're
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located in the Rings determines the points and you can knock other people's
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out and stuff like that little bit lawn balls and those kind of games y but
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anyway that's super fun actually I think that was probably the we spent the most
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time doing that CU weird I'm still jealous I'm still
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looking forward to PX Australia oh worm would do um desks now have you seen that
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you know wormwood they do the really really high-end gaming tables they're
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[ __ ] insane but they're so expensive oh those ones that are they designed for
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like D and D or just any board game yeah yeah and they leave you know like a it's
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a dice tray like it's a wooden dice tray with a bit of felt in it right which you
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could get very cheap these are like hundreds of dollars because it's just
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like like pristine beautiful wood like
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they very high-end like but so expensive cork sniff DND D stuff but now they make
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desks like sit stand shifting desks and they're [ __ ] beautiful I walked up
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and I was like oh my god I didn't even want to ask how much they were let's
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have a look but under do this they the ones that you like you can hide all your
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components and then you can bring it out like there different designs but you
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canet a little tray at the side here we go the modular desk wormwood yeah three
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grand three grand yeah yeah C organizer couple holder card Kelly Universal
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hangers like there's a ton of stuff you can get with this but like uh gaming
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tables God these things are so beautiful how much are these few pricing guys PX
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sounds good and all but is there a con where all I do is watch Zack Snider
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movies for three days cuz that's what I want that's what I want you know what
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you're in luck okay there is there is what on now I know why how is this a
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thing I mean I guess he organized it himself maybe I don't know yeah he's got
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enough he's certainly got enough fans that I mean the thing is I don't know
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why I saw his movies yeah and and and
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they a lot of them flopped as well but somehow he's he's he's he's the I don't
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I don't even know how to describe it but I've notic ever since caval I mean
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everyone hated caval everyone they didn't like it when he was cast as
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Superman nobody liked Man of Steel no no body liked Batman v Superman and nobody
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at all liked Justice League and yet everyone's posted now caval is the only
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Superman I'll go and see there's only one Superman and it's
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Christopher Reeves M was yes that horse was made till that kryptonite horse
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threw him onto that kryptonite ground but so what are you doing at snon is
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said honestly just going to watch his movies so this is what we talked the
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other week about there was this countdown and everyone was like is he is
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he convinced him to let him make another movie no but he's the countdown was for
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snon and it just seems like it is just I mean you you watch the movies and then
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he's there doing a Q&A right that's what this that's all this is I hate Q andas
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Q&A signing Etc I think there's you know it's it's a bit of an an event but it's
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certainly not it's called SN con it doesn't seem like a con well maybe it's
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a con other way but they need to vet the questions oh yeah yeah yeah people ask
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stupid stuff mhm there are other times when someone ask like a great question
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and but then there's other times where people just trying to show off how much
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knowledge they have about something any arcade Q&A they pull the questions out
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of a box and they have people submit them beforehand and someone back at the
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office goes through them and filters out the garbage and there's a lot how it
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should be mhm well Dan you and I experienced what happens when they don't
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do that a that was that was the funniest thing I've ever seen so talk for 15 minutes
26:02
about giving a script to them to give to will weat to give to Felicia 15 minutes
26:07
but first they the answer was no yeah that's
26:12
right for everybody's time for away from everyone else in that room it's it just
26:19
ruins it for everybody cuz it's embarrassing for those for the question
26:22
ask it whether they realize it or not it's embarrassing for the person on
26:26
stage and it's embarrassing for everybody else then I've also been to
26:29
others where sort of the host of it is asking the questions and like you don't
26:34
know who what you're talking about you need to shut up I hate that I hate not
26:38
blue hat guy at supern blue hat guy yeah your Nemesis my
26:43
Nemesis I I went to Q&A with Alonso Caron the the filmmaker you know him um
26:49
yeah yeah yeah well not personally but yeah no but you know you know his films
26:52
he's [ __ ] excellent films yeah like children of men for example you know
26:56
like didn't he do gravity yeah gravity yeah yeah yeah yeah so we we're seeing
27:01
him and he's like he sits down we watch his latest film it's curated the curator
27:06
comes in and he goes look I assume if you're here you're into film or you're
27:11
film student or your film buff so let's get technical ask ask me anything like
27:16
really let's just get into it let's just get technical and uh some of the
27:20
questions that this curator said were like um how did the actors know not to
27:25
look into the camera but to only look at each other was it filamina Kunk ask the
27:32
question oh man okay so we got to talk about filamina Kunk because I finally
27:37
watched the last episode of Kunk on earth right yes so I mean I always like
27:41
what she does kk on Earth is is one of the best for sure things that she has
27:45
done funny but that final episode was so
27:49
good when she is talking to that British
27:52
military historian that huge he's a huge man squeezed into what I assume is the
27:59
tiniest suit ever I you're going to say yeah and then she talking about nuclear
28:03
weapons she's like well there's no nuclear weapons now right he's like no
28:06
good thing we've got rid of him all yeah yeah he goes no there's still nuclear
28:09
weapons she starts to cry and I don't know how she I mean give her the Academy
28:15
Award she's a great actress she starts to cry he just just stiffens up and and
28:21
and and she's like can we just please talk about something else I'm just
28:24
really upset now he like we can talk about anything you want she like do you
28:27
like Abba he's like I [ __ ] love ever she's like what's your favorite ever
28:30
song what's your faite what's your favorite ever song He's like dancing
28:33
queen like it's just he just goes with it so well and this is after however
28:39
long of just being asked innan questions as well so good so good just the way the
28:46
way he says I love I love cuz he's like trying to like reach out to her like
28:50
don't be upset but he's also he's a military historian he is like a bl's
28:55
bloke he's like just yeah oh I love ever love I think there's a missing episode
29:00
of that oh really I I have a feeling just because there's only five episodes
29:07
and there's always six do five episodes there always six if there was four I'd
29:11
go okay but five seems a bit slagging in the Christian the religion episode she's
29:16
slagging off Jesus and then she's like don't worry we'll get to Islam
29:21
next yeah yeah the Bible or Quran which
29:26
one's best well she she go the Quran he go Quran so
29:32
that one then is it yeah so
29:37
funny yeah I watched there's a there's a on YouTube there's a they did I guess a
29:43
Q&A I talking about how Q&A suck this one was quite good was Charlie Brooker
29:46
and her and uh one of The Producers talking after a screening of con on
29:51
Earth was quite interesting and they're very fun I need Charlie Brooker to start
29:55
doing his yearly reviews again they were magnific did you ever watch those I've
30:00
seen one or two of them yeah yeah they're excellent they're excellent same
30:04
same dry wit as as Gina Kun but just without the character I think he he WR
30:10
because she performs it but it was written because she talks about how she
30:14
she auditioned for it and they wanted her to do they wanted her to be like a posh
30:21
British lady and she said can I just do it in my accent she goes cuz I think
30:26
it's funnier if I just talk like normal yeah and she goes bear with me on this
30:30
and then they're like sure and then she did it and they're like you're [ __ ]
30:32
hired yeah yeah yeah cuz what is that as yorksh or west country it's it's it's an
30:37
unus it's like a farmer accent yeah right but it's it's fitting because you
30:43
go is she dumb yeah yeah like cuz if she's talking Posh you go this is a bit
30:48
but with her the way she is it's just like is this real or not like she kind
30:53
of sucks him in a bit more yeah King Arthur came a lot didn't he
31:01
thoughts move about through your head through pipes we know that don't we I'm
31:04
not sure we do know that oh we do no we do we do so anyway that that is how it
31:09
works so do you think the thoughts get stuck sometimes yeah there was one I
31:14
can't remember what but but he just asked something inan like of a of a
31:19
professor it was like what did they eat for breakfast he's like I don't really
31:22
know about their culinary habits he's like right bit of a waste getting you in
31:26
then wasn't it so good I'm watching another British
31:33
series invented or perfected anal bleaching yeah I can't say it was either
31:40
one the be one one it's got to be one or the othered then watching another British show at
31:47
the moment a couple of episodes from the end uh Luke I mentioned this when you
31:51
and I were just doing one a few weeks ago it's called it's called Rogue Heroes
31:56
uh in the credits but on the on the browser it's called Uh SAS Rogue Heroes
32:02
it's uh a bit cheesy and it's unashamedly British but it's about um
32:07
the first British uh paratrooper Brigade in World War II and they're just cocky
32:13
bastards that just just want to kill Nazis and um so they they just kind of
32:18
go off on their own and start their own thing great cast um very cool just fun
32:24
to watch doesn't ask anything of you you know what I mean just yeah right just
32:28
just fun fun over the top Super over the top I mean it's violent when there's
32:34
when there's battles it's it's War you know but these guys are just Mary Su for
32:38
the lack of any other term they just you know they just graded everything and was
32:43
obviously conceived by somebody who either was in the SAS or just really
32:48
worshiped them yeah you know cool I've been watching my favorite
32:54
uh British comedy show potentially m uh would I lie to you I notic that that's
33:00
on brick box yeah would I lie to you that show that show every episode I
33:04
laugh out loud several times it's so funny so if you have not watched it
33:09
listeners highly recommend that it's very funny who that asks nothing of you
33:14
rob bden still yeah he's great yeah yeah good and like the two because David
33:20
Mitchell David Mitchell possibly my favorite British comedian he's so
33:24
[ __ ] funny and then Lee Mack who he is so
33:31
quick can believe sh comes out you know he's a professional darts player is he
33:36
is he he holds the he was a lie I believe that he hangs out in pubs a lot
33:42
so he us hold the world record for getting like the most 20s in a minute or
33:47
something like I don't know he holds World Records in
33:50
darts but yeah you can see him hanging out in a pub yeah yeah yeah no he's good
33:55
he's good yeah they get have some good guests I [ __ ] love do you know James
33:59
acter yes he is so funny good show you need to watch Taskmaster I do he's on
34:06
that I know that he's on that YouTube told me that yes he's a funny dude all
34:11
right I want to hear about something that Dan purchased yeah so I mean several months
34:18
ago perhaps a year ago when they announced the A500 mini I assume that's
34:23
what you're referring to Matt correct well what else have you purchased
34:26
nothing cuz I'm broke um cuz it all went to the A500 mil well
34:31
I was tossing up sorry I just need a minute hold on mhm he's just all choked up with
34:38
[Laughter] Nostalgia hold on hold that thought I
34:44
need I need drink yeah
34:49
no I like to think we could we now if we talk he can still hear us he just can't
34:54
say anything back that's right he can't stop us from talking
34:58
nothing he can do nope do I need some Optical lens cleaning wipes I get $120 for
35:05
$13 you guys have the opportunity to talk behind my back without me being
35:09
able to retort and you go with Optical wipes as the
35:14
topic oh that's what we call you behind your back
35:19
yeah oh all right I'm back um Luke uh when when we were first talking about
35:26
this and I said I wanted one you said just get it cuz you'll end up getting it
35:29
and I said I don't know if it's worth the money and I probably won't get one
35:33
and there's emulators and you're like well you will end up getting it so it
35:36
doesn't matter when you spend that money because you will buy one that money is
35:40
gone yeah that's right you just don't know it yet Amiga has that money Shing
35:43
just money exactly um and of course you were right and I I've looked at this
35:50
I've bookmarked it on Amazon so many times I've gone into JB highi singing
35:55
saying if they've got it on the Shelf I'm just walking home with I'm going to get it
36:00
yeah they never do I don't know what brought me over the line but I just no
36:05
what brought me over the line was I almost bought a [ __ ] Commodore 64
36:09
mini and then I almost bought a Commodore 64 Maxi and then I'm like what
36:12
am I doing I still haven't even bought the Amiga one like and I just did it I
36:17
just it was like you really really exactly so I'm up late I'm playing games
36:22
you know I'm just using the Retro AR and I'm like I'm just going to get the [ __ ]
36:26
thing so a couple of things one it's great no no buyers remorse is adorable
36:32
little thing I'm almost tempted to also get a little Monitor and set it up here
36:39
like its own little little computer I'm really really tempted to do that um been
36:43
playing games I've put retro Arch on it uh so that it can kind of just be a a
36:49
catchall for all retro games and that's interesting can you do that I I mean I
36:53
have the mini and I have c64 mini not but I've been all them c64 you can put
36:59
certain other things on it but I don't know if you can just run a native retro
37:03
watch on it the the the mega Min you can that's cool uh and it works pretty well
37:09
and it's good that it does because I'll say this after spending the week playing
37:13
some Amiga games I've got to admit the Amiga I have overly romanticized this
37:20
computer over the last 35 years these games the the games that are really good
37:26
I've been playing this whole time monkey you know what I mean like all of
37:32
these things and you know flashback another world these games that were made
37:36
for the Amiga and ped onto Doss and all these other cont yeah they continued on
37:39
through due to there all of these lot of [ __ ] man there's some [ __ ] there's
37:46
there's so much [ __ ] and um I'm scrolling through these amga games and
37:51
then just ending up playing SN games you
37:55
know because they they just age better because you can always play a Dopey
38:00
platformer but Amiga because it was 16 bit they really did rely on really
38:05
leaning into having great graphics and great animation and I think a lot of the
38:09
times the game play could take a second
38:13
it was uh we just loved looking at the pretty pictures and I really do think
38:19
that it means that a lot of like the comodo 64 I've been playing a fair few
38:22
c64 games on emulator the last couple weeks as well but the good games on that
38:28
are very very good because they knew their graphical limitations so they're
38:32
like well how do we just make this really fun and really engaging and the
38:36
way that they because I've been reading um uh a Blog that that came out as an
38:41
ebook about the history of you know those old systems and the way the things
38:45
they had to do on the commodor 64 in
38:48
particular to make it just do things to to have enough stuff on the screen that
38:54
kind of stuff where you've got to do like between every
38:58
um scan line you have to jump around and start jumping between Sprites because
39:02
you can only have a certain number of Sprites on the screen at the same time
39:05
so like it would just like flick and draw it's just like [ __ ] man like
39:11
compared to the tools we have these days like unity and you know Unreal Engine
39:15
all that kind of stuff it's just ridiculous yeah yeah like these these
39:19
programmers were [ __ ] amazing yeah they started with nothing it's not like
39:23
they go to the marketplace I'll just download this and I'll it's yeah which
39:27
which pre-built engine will my favorite my favorite amig game which I mentioned
39:32
a little bit earlier um flashback uh the guy who made that had
39:38
to teach himself or ride essentially ride his own computer language in order
39:43
to uh to make the game and he also had to teach himself to draw and and teach
39:48
himself how to draw pixel by pixel and um you know the only thing he didn't do
39:53
was the music he got his mate to come and write music for it and that I mean
39:57
love these games yeah that just have one author you know yeah well that's that
40:03
was the dream when I was young and then it changed yeah games used to be like
40:06
you'd have one person go and create and that was it I remember even Atari games
40:11
that was sort of like hey you're going to go we need you to make a game you go
40:14
off and make it and give it back yeah and they're like well that was a mistake
40:18
yeah yeah yeah you've got 24 hours straight yeah he did he got like less
40:24
than two weeks or something was something ridiculous to go and make the
40:27
game I have ET by the way do you you have a cartridge or is it yeah yeah yeah
40:33
yeah it's over there I've played it I have I played it but I I played it it's
40:37
awful I didn't buy it to play it cuz all it is that whole game is you walking
40:41
around falling into a hole the hole might have something that you need to
40:45
pick up to go and build the telephone radio antenna and then you get out of the
40:50
hole fall in a hole any Atari 2600 game
40:54
that tried to be more than just shoot pixels other pixels failed M because
41:00
like the one I'm thinking if you made it too complicated or even complex at all
41:05
you you lost because it say one thing
41:07
Pitfall yeah was great Pitfall Frogger [ __ ] any anything in that genre is
41:14
great that Empire Strikes Back game is good yes but you know what's not good
41:18
Raiders the last dark because it's not simple you got to search rooms oh what
41:22
does a door look like it just looks like part of a wall how do you know which
41:25
parts and by the way some parts kill you like yeah they just tried to do too much
41:31
keep it simple I I bought another game this week and I bought it twice and the
41:38
reason I bought it twice was I'd read a
41:40
very very good review uh on a game from
41:45
2017 uh called stories Untold right oh
41:50
yes oh so it's not a brand new game hang on it looks it looks like stranger
41:56
thinks and in fact they got the guy who designed the stranger things logo to
42:02
design the logo for this so if you think it's a ripoff I know what this is okay
42:06
so so let me tell you what this is and and why you should definitely pay it $15
42:11
on Steam for this right now so I bought this on switch because I'd heard of it
42:15
and then it came up on the switch store and I thought yeah I'm going to grab
42:18
that and I started playing it and it's a text Adventure it is an old timey text
42:23
adventure and you play it sitting at an old computer right
42:27
but that is not switch friendly right no so for starters they've had to come up
42:33
with some other kind of way of controlling it without typing and also
42:38
it's just really difficult to read text on the switch at at the times but I
42:43
liked it enough and I knew I would like it enough that I just went to steam and
42:46
I bought it on Steam as well so it's
42:50
it's a horror game it's very very simple but it's incredibly atmospheric and look
42:56
you do have to read so I'm not going to tell you you should I'm going to tell
43:01
you something that might shock you I've already purchased that game and finished
43:04
at 100% there you go because you get all the achievements in about an hour and a
43:09
half yeah yeah it's not it's not a long game it's not a long game and you can't
43:12
save um you have to complete I think there's three or four chapters and
43:16
you've got to play all the way through each one and if you yeah there's four
43:18
episodes and if you use a walk through it's very easy it's not it's not
43:23
difficult either but it is fun I'm no longer surprised that you've played
43:26
through it yeah yeah um but Matt you will you will enjoy this all right I'll
43:31
check it out yeah that's cool I've been playing um while I was away I got the
43:36
chance to play some Metroid Prime oh yes remaster on my switch the switch [ __ ]
43:41
Inc it's incredible it's incredible I don't it's just it's Metro primer it
43:45
looks nicer and it's on the switch so came with me to California love it oh
43:50
yeah great good opportunity yeah and I figured out a little tip tra for
43:55
traveling listeners when you're on the go if you're in a hotel and you plug
44:00
something into the USB port like your Nintendo switch mhm and or a fire stick
44:05
which I also took with me so I could watch episodes of Night Rider M yep um
44:09
and you find that the TV doesn't let you switch inputs or anything like that take
44:13
a little peek around the back and you might find what looks like an you know
44:17
those old style RJ45 phone jacks oh yeah yeah right there'll be a box on the back
44:22
that controls everything and there'll be a cable going from that into the TV
44:26
looks like an old phone cable yeah just pop that out turn the TV off turn it
44:30
back on again and you'll be right oh the TV will function like a normal TV oh interesting
44:36
excellent I don't know if I plugged that back in before I that's someone else's
44:40
problem I just realized well that was over a week ago they haven't called you
44:44
about it yeah either no one's noticed and therefore it's not a problem or
44:48
someone fixed it yeah I actually recently stayed at a place and there was
44:51
a problem with the television if you turn the television off when you turned
44:54
it back on you had to unplug the set toop box to get the television to work
44:57
in it was really annoying and it couldn't work out it can't be normal no
45:02
it doesn't sound using the remote turned it off turned it on and then nothing
45:05
would happen until I reset the set top box H who knows speaking of TV you know
45:10
the uh the most exciting premiere for me right now is that next week season 4 of
45:16
Bluey comes out don't even have all of season 3 here
45:21
yet what there's some great episodes in season 3 I know they my f fav blue
45:27
episode which is Grandma mobile is in the second half come the
45:33
Granny's it's the one where um muffin is the argu with the grumpy old lady yeah
45:39
yeah I love that episode [ __ ] so funny my two favorite episodes there's
45:43
one where they the three boys play Space right and they go up into space and one
45:48
of them gets depressed and walks into a black hole and sees himself as a child
45:54
on the other side amazing and there's a the other one that's my favorite is
45:58
where there's a new kid at school that's also in second half Series yeah and
46:01
these are both in the second series I think there's one where um one kid's dad
46:05
is away deployed in the Army and so he he just plays armies at school and it's
46:10
just just one lunchtime play is the episode and it's just him on maneuvers
46:15
it's amazing uh Rusty right because Rusty okay the show was originally
46:22
called Rusty what and it was him because and you'll notice this now that I'm
46:26
going to say this yeah Rusty is Bluey a
46:30
different color oh wow right yeah okay it's just not yeah and it was originally
46:36
about him and then they said no needs to be more colorful what's a more colorful
46:41
dog that's Australian or blue Cattle Dog all right it's blue and make it a girl
46:45
wow it's Bluey wow yeah and there's a if you look on YouTube there's an
46:50
unaired like pilot is there and it's it's awful is it it's it's Bandit takes
46:57
BL to the park and he's supposed to be pushing her on the swing but he's
47:00
ignoring her right just on his phone okay just like being like a negligent oh
47:04
wow which is like the opposite of how he is in the show and he's like pushing her
47:07
and pushing yeah exactly yeah yeah it's just so odd and he's like pushing and
47:10
she's like Higher and Higher and Higher and he keeps pushing until she actually
47:12
does a loop oh and that's the that's the episode huh that's that's it yeah and I
47:17
was like that they [ __ ] green lit this off that you know uh you know who
47:21
the voice of the dad is I do it's the singer of custom yeah remember custard
47:27
Luke girls like that I still listen to them they still
47:32
they still release albums they're still a band and he's the voice of the dad on
47:36
Blue arguably one of the I was going to say one of the best characters they're
47:39
all the best characters yeah but he's definitely it's just one of those shows
47:43
I also love the episode Explorers when
47:46
it's um heish Blake plays Jake's dad oh yeah yeah and he gets lost at going to
47:53
the school yeah and you don't know where your son's school is yeah
47:57
yeah it's like GPS it says it says only four-wheel drives can go past here and
48:02
what's our car it's an all-wheel drive
48:04
and how many wheels do we have oh four
48:10
four yeah that's yeah it's a good episode the writing in this [ __ ] show
48:16
is incredible it's incredible I wish I
48:19
had kids watch Argentina are you
48:24
no so good oh yeah that my one of my favorite gags in it like the the gags
48:29
that are for the adults is when they're doing the reenactment of of Chile and
48:33
Bandit meeting the kids are doing a reenactment of the parents meeting yeah
48:36
and then they go they're doing the play and then they go where did you guys meet
48:40
and then Chile goes oh I had a party in England and they go and all of a sudden
48:44
the Queen's there in the play and then Chile Chile goes I don't remember the
48:47
queen being there and then Bandit goes you wouldn't
48:52
yeah yeah yeah it's so good and there's some episodes like there's one episode
48:58
that's about how the sister can't have kids like have you seen that one [ __ ]
49:03
yeah like some of the there's an episode in the third season called rain have you
49:07
seen that one it's completely trying to block the they just trying to block the
49:11
the water going down the dra it's amazing the music in that episode is
49:16
music in every a good show one guy does allore for that yeah yeah jof Bush yeah
49:23
amazing good [ __ ] and this has been Bluey yeah that's right MH what is there
49:29
um you know Bronies you know grown men who like my ponies is there is there like grown
49:36
men the problem is every not problem everybody likes blue yeah yeah it's
49:41
impossible not have you watched it Luke no I think you'd like it be honest
49:47
probably would but yeah I'm not I'm not going to put it on I mean cuz it's the
49:51
type of St you you put on for your kids and then you get sucked into it yeah I'm
49:55
not going to get sucked into cuz I don't have the kids to start with that I think
49:58
you you might I think you might it's pretty funny you watch a lot of cartoons
50:03
I watch Robotech one cartoon over and over and over which is
50:09
how children watch cartoons so before we get off I mean we seg wait a little bit
50:14
before we get off uh game programming uh and game programmers and when games were
50:20
just one person programming or sometimes two people but sometimes only one of
50:25
them gets an award um John Romero is getting atime Achievement Award I think John Romero
50:31
has a [ __ ] nerve getting any award that he doesn't co-share with John carac
50:38
but that's just that's my opinion yeah I mean what's he done on his own da Katana
50:44
that's fair I guess well he this was for his work on Doom Quake yeah Wolfenstein
50:51
and mo so no no what's the and that's what you mean you're skipping the an Mo
50:55
very that's just K and that's the only one he
51:00
didn't yeah yeah but look John kak's going to get his own if he already
51:05
hasn't I imagine joh somebody wasting my time I don't I don't care about any of
51:10
this yeah yeah I mean it for the just the work yeah yeah whereas Romero was
51:16
like I would love an award thanks very much yeah that's right
51:20
yeah he I remember once he got um he got a t-shirt made for his mom that said I'm
51:26
John Romero's
51:31
Mom oh he's a funny dude I think he um
51:35
in there's a the very long john Kack Lex fredman um episode which is very good I
51:42
think there's a bit where karmak says that Romero was always more interested
51:47
in that stuff than him than the fame and the the fortune
51:52
mind [ __ ] hard and he's still very very Talent oh yeah absolutely
51:57
elyar yeah yeah and he he's not the best game designer he's a hard worker and
52:03
he's a good programmer and he's he's good but he has proven with da Katana he
52:08
got ahead of himself a bit and he maybe didn't realize it's not just him yeah
52:13
especially since the the poster for da katana like pre-release poster was just
52:18
the words John Romer is about to kick your ass or something like that make you
52:22
his [ __ ] make you his [ __ ] that's it yeah yeah yeah that didn't go up well
52:27
yeah no but a lovely guy oh yeah yeah no I adore
52:32
him but it's just very but but I think it's funny too like I'll happily listen
52:36
to him tell me how good he is and I do I love all of his games except D Katana
52:41
but it's like a when you see interviews with um Matt Stone right and oh yeah and
52:47
he's he's like I am 1110th of the talent
52:51
of Trey Parker um but Trey can't do it
52:55
without me so we are a partnership he does way more work he's way more Talent
53:00
he comes up with more of the jokes he's made more of the characters but I'm the
53:04
one who makes him make those things up so he has to have me and I think the kak
53:10
Romero relationship is similar they are both their best when they're together
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riffing on each other together yeah cuz karmak is just happy and content to sit
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there in the dark yeah at his computer and just [ __ ] like if you say oh that
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can't be done he's like watch this yeah hand me hand me a bit of cold pizza and
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I'll see tomorrow like Commander Keane he literally figured out how to just use
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the limitations of the video cards that were in the computer yeah to to do aides
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scrolling game it didn't work if you had any other video card than the ones that
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were out at that time they have to go back later and change the game to make
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it work because it literally relied upon
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like glitches in yeah yeah I just did quick research John karmac got the
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Lifetime Achievement Award in 2010 oh [ __ ] so it took 13 more years for them
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to give Romero one wow okay I mean I think by that time it was clear karmak deserved it
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yeah and now we've come around like modern video games
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are heavily reliant on the work he did
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yes on his own in the dark yeah some of my favorite things I've
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done have been on my own in the dark like literally there's that story that
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they all I think it's in masters of Doom where everybody was like well we're
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going home and K's like oh I'm going to stay and then everybody went home came
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back the next day and he's like I've made a 3D engine overnight and then they
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were like what the [ __ ] yeah yeah well that essentially happened with Commander
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Kean too like he just stayed late one night when Romero got there in the
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morning oh that's right it was Super Mario Brothers yeah he's like I made
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Super Mario on the PC and then they yeah they approached
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Nintendo Nintendo were like no thanks yeah they're like all
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right y computer is not for
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games ridiculous he's a smart dude stepped down uh karmac stepped down from
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Facebook recently yeah to go work on AI
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on his own oh so I've been okay so just in the couple of minutes we've got left
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I I had a three-hour conversation with chat GPT on Friday night last a week ago
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are you okay because trying to make itac
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I say conversation no mate I I wrote a synopsis for a science fiction story
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that I want to write with chat GPT as my brainstorm buddy right it is the perfect
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co-writer it will tell you when ideas have been done before it will suggest to
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you ways of changing that idea into maybe a way you know what hasn't been
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done is this and then you can say because I said something like this and
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then we kind of nutted something out and then I said oh is this just the thing now
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are we just copying the thing and he wrote back well no cuz the thing's more
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about the paranoia of this blah blah blah what you're suggesting is more like
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this and I'm like yeah okay all right cool he's like yeah so just lean into
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that I'm like right okay cool thanks okay so stay on topic and then and then
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at one point I'm like okay what if it was not an alien what if it was like an
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ancient Sumerian god and he's like yeah okay so there's an ancient Sumerian god
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called enky do and he does the kind of things that you've just described the
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alien does what about that I'm like okay great that's something that you've just
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researched in real time that I can now just add in like it's amazing all right
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yeah I still don't even know how do I get to
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it I I so I've heard there's a Quee now for it I've got an account already yeah
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I've got an account signed up ages ago yeah I think we might have locked out
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there I unless there's some version of it that I'm not using where do I go I'll
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find out hold on I've saved it let me look um and I thought I was I thought I
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was pretty pretty cool for doing that until the next day where I was telling
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my boss that I was doing that and he told me that he spent the weekend
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playing Dungeons and Dragons with his son with chat GPT as the dungeon master
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and I was like that's genius that is genius how that work hang do you have to
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type in what you're doing back yeah so you just so basically as as they were
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coming up with the the game he was yeah telling the computer telling telling
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chat gbt what they were doing and chat gbt was coming up with the next bit of
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the scenario for huh and calculating the odds
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Etc interesting yeah this is pretty cute too cuz my my
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son's boss is only five or six years old right so he's quite young for D and D so
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um his character is this little elf who is going on an adventure with his dad
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and part of his character is he always has to ask his dad for permission before
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he does anything so so it's like just built into the game that he's not going
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to be able to make all the decisions on his own which I thought was very
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cute all right I'm in what do I do
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hello am I cool are you I don't know find out we've
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started using gbt at work um we we have
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the The Voice to Text command on during our meetings and then we ask chat gbt to
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just come up with minutes and it just reformats everything into minutes this
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this person said this at this time this person said this this decision was made
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that means we could transcribe this show
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Absolutely all right I guess we could make we could make it listen to every
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episode and then do our Wiki for us oh that's a great idea we can get the list
58:47
of all the geek of the weeks oh my god let's do this let's make it listen to
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every episode then ask it to write its own episode I'm just going to say yes
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I'm going to try I'm just going to say hi multiple multiple nasm.com just go
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listen to every episode let me know when you're done yeah and then we'll see if
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I want to know if I want to know if it thinks Luke's cool listeners if you want
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