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Netball’s Next Big Star?, Cath’s Bali Chaos & The 11th Player Twist · No Dribble

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it's footy final season and we've got to thank
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  Speaker 1: the guys for putting something on to keep us entertained
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  Speaker 1: between signing season and test netball starting. But you're on
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  Speaker 1: no dribble. Strap in! Hello and welcome to No Dribble,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk about netball. We talk about
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  Speaker 1: so much more. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis. Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Hi. She's back.
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  Speaker 2: She's back, baby, and she's going to start with a
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  Speaker 2: very big happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: To our big birthday. Well, it wasn't a big round number.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a big round number. It's just a big number.
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  Speaker 2: So, Liz, this is how I found out this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I rock up to do the podcast, and she's got
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  Speaker 2: this great halter neck top on, so it looks ripped.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, girl, look at these. And
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  Speaker 2: she said, I've just finished doing 57 burpees. Mm. I said, why?
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  Speaker 2: And then she said, because it's my birthday and I've
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  Speaker 2: got to do one for every year.
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  Speaker 1: One for each year. We're lobbying at the gym that
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  Speaker 1: it should be 100 minus your age because we've got
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  Speaker 1: all these 21-year-olds going, oh, I've done my birthday birthdays,
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  Speaker 1: why haven't you done yours? It's like, well, because you're
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  Speaker 1: 21 and I'm 57. But anyway, I've done them.
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  Speaker 2: And how was your birthday aside from that shitty piece
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  Speaker 2: of it?
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  Speaker 1: It was wonderful, thank you. I had the great– I
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  Speaker 1: love having a birthday on a Sunday and I did
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  Speaker 1: not look at my computer and I've got into a
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  Speaker 1: bad habit of just doing a bit of work all
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  Speaker 1: the time and so on Saturday I thought I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to watch that. Friday night I watched my son
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  Speaker 1: play his final sort of concert at school. He did
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  Speaker 1: this jazz number. It was sensational. Saturday, no netball, went
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  Speaker 1: to the gym, went to the hairdresser. watched like six
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  Speaker 1: hours of footy on the couch. And it was great
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  Speaker 1: football too, both AFL and NRL. And then yesterday it
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: was just like sleep in, breakfast in bed, great gifts.
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  Speaker 1: Then Pete and I went and did a cooking, a
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  Speaker 1: Japanese cooking class, which was fantastic. And then we made
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  Speaker 1: our own little bento boxes and then we had some
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  Speaker 1: sake with it. So I went home, it's one o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: we've had lunch, we've got a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: buzz on. So it's like, let's have a snooze.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, days don't get better.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was so good. And then had family barbecue
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  Speaker 1: by the pool and it was just a magical Sydney
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  Speaker 1: day yesterday. And then there was some more football to watch.
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  Speaker 1: So it was great. It was really good. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: That's fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: What are you specialising in now, Japanese-wise?
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  Speaker 1: So agadashi tofu, I'm now really good at that.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking last week we had the chat about
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  Speaker 3: what will we do on our party bus and we
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  Speaker 3: didn't put in a cooking class in there, which was
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  Speaker 3: not very smart, so I'd like to add that posthumously.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a long day.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a very long day.
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  Speaker 1: Particularly if we have to be home by 8 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I suggest no sake drinking at the cooking class
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  Speaker 2: and then it might help. We have got no time
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  Speaker 2: in this day for an afternoon bath.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have it during. So every other cooking class
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  Speaker 1: I've been to, and I've been to a number of
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  Speaker 1: cooking classes that they set up as a corporate team-building exercise,
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  Speaker 1: which is terrific, but give me a glass of wine
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm just, I'm not going to learn anything
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  Speaker 1: the whole rest of the time. But I've done some
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  Speaker 1: cooking classes at the Sydney Seafood School. which is really good.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a great way to spend time with people
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  Speaker 1: because you learn something. So the Sydney Seafood School, you
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: go and you sit in a– I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it's like now. They've redone it. But you used to
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  Speaker 1: go and sit in a lecture room and they'd show
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  Speaker 1: it to you and then you'd go out into the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen and you'd be on a station. There's about four
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  Speaker 1: or six of you on one station. You cook it
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  Speaker 1: and then you take it into the dining room and
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  Speaker 1: you eat it. And, like, it's just– it's fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: Little social activity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good fun.
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  Speaker 3: I did a cooking class in Paris once. So when
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  Speaker 3: Matthew and I were there, I was like, right, let's
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  Speaker 3: do a cooking class. And they sent an email and
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  Speaker 3: they said, what do you want to cook? And I said, ah, fargois,
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  Speaker 3: which I know is not very cool. Anyway, we got
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  Speaker 3: there and there was a group of us and we
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  Speaker 3: didn't know any of them. And the person running the
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  Speaker 3: cooking class said, so somebody has asked to cook fargois.
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  Speaker 3: And who was that? And I've gone, me. I got
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  Speaker 3: eight of the stinkiest, stink-eyed, dirty looks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's me over here in my fur coat.
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  Speaker 2: What do they all want to cook?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm like, well, if you don't
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  Speaker 3: say something, you don't get what you want, right? So
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, I've never cooked foie gras and
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  Speaker 3: obviously you can't cook it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how to make it?
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's animal.
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  Speaker 1: Cruelty issues questions around it but i don't know what
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  Speaker 1: happens between that so they overfeed the goose in order
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  Speaker 1: to make its liver really fatty and but i don't
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  Speaker 1: know then what happens oh.
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  Speaker 3: Look this was quite some time ago and i will
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  Speaker 3: say i didn't understand the animal cruelty issues back then
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  Speaker 3: this was quite some time ago now i get it
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  Speaker 3: and i wouldn't ask for.
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  Speaker 2: It um Have you made it since is the question.
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  Speaker 3: No, of course I haven't. I've got nowhere near it.
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  Speaker 3: And French cooking is so precise. And then we made
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  Speaker 3: this other thing with like a strawberry jus. And we
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  Speaker 3: used like 15 putters of strawberry and we got about
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  Speaker 3: eight mil of this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And it was like.
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  Speaker 3: Distilled strawberries, beautiful. I've never tasted anything like it, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, man, I'd rather just eat the strawberries
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  Speaker 3: and get the fibre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or just go and buy it. That's expensive.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to know how to make a good French
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  Speaker 1: onion soup.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think that is absolutely delicious. I did a
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  Speaker 1: cooking class in Thailand and the only reason I'm mentioning
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  Speaker 1: it is because Thailand, it's the sort of holiday that's
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  Speaker 1: somewhat like Bali. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: See, that's a segue.
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  Speaker 1: I'm learning from Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 3: And before Catherine asks anything, can I say... The amount
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  Speaker 3: of people who've said to me, oh, how was Bali?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see you in any photos.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's, what's it, witness protection. We had to pixelate
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  Speaker 2: her face. Well, she had to just stand to the side.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not go to Bali. I would have
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  Speaker 3: loved to have gone. I hated seeing my friends there,
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  Speaker 3: including Catherine, but I had sports ball children responsibilities to do. So, Catherine,
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  Speaker 3: how was your holiday?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, look, we all did too, but we left them
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  Speaker 2: at home.
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  Speaker 1: But it also sounds like I don't think this will
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: be the last opportunity to celebrate Catherine's 50th. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're two big events now and counting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's another coming. It's a festival off.
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  Speaker 1: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: You got it. How many times are we turning 50?
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  Speaker 1: You know what everyone should do when they turn 50
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  Speaker 1: is just be inducted into a Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was actually nice because that was announced publicly
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  Speaker 2: the day I left. So that was a nice little
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  Speaker 2: start to the trip. But it was so fun. Just
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: everything about it. Chill, but everything's so cheap. No one
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  Speaker 2: got sick. Gordie had an incident. We'll talk about that later.
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  Speaker 2: Gordie had an incident. Gordie had an incident. She's okay, though.
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  Speaker 2: She's okay. But it was just magic. You know, like
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  Speaker 2: everything's so cheap. So firstly, had breakfast made for us
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  Speaker 2: every day. We're staying in a villa. It was staffed. Very,
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  Speaker 2: very luxe. Not normal life. So I had the barley
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  Speaker 2: blues since I got back. Yeah. first to recognise that. And,
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you get home, you're like, oh, what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean I've got to do my own washing and
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  Speaker 2: I don't get breakfast made for me and I can't
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  Speaker 2: just duck across the road once I get out of
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  Speaker 2: the pool and buy a $ 2 beer and then run
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  Speaker 2: back and jump in the pool again? Real life is tough.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I've loved the most is when
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  Speaker 1: my friends who were expats and who lived in Southeast
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  Speaker 1: Asia and they had small children and then they had
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  Speaker 1: to come back to Australia and understand it's vastly different
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  Speaker 1: having small children living that you have to look after
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  Speaker 1: yourself all the time when you don't have helpers in
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  Speaker 1: the house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice. But do you know what the
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  Speaker 2: most fascinating thing was?
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  Speaker 1: This is the most bourgeois episode of.
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  Speaker 2: This podcast we've ever done. I'm going to try and
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: bring it down.
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  Speaker 1: And domestic staff and villas.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not the norm, is it? But I didn't
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  Speaker 2: plan on doing much shopping. But where I did go
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  Speaker 2: wrong is I walked into one of these big supermarkets
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  Speaker 2: and Gordie said the best thing about the villa, because
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  Speaker 2: Gordie chose all of this, I said, I want to go.
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  Speaker 2: This is how many people we'll have. Can you, given
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  Speaker 2: she knows it so well, can you find me some options?
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  Speaker 2: So when she was there, she was in and out
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  Speaker 2: of all these villas and finding it. So she found
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  Speaker 2: this great villa.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
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  Speaker 2: But it was all about the location as well, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: for her. So she had us near the biggest supermarket
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  Speaker 2: in Seminyak. Anyway, just for convenience.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a middle-aged woman.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Location, location, location. Where is the biggest supermarket in Seminyak?
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  Speaker 2: No, but it was so good because it had this
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: massive beauty department. Anyway, walked in there one day and
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: there's all these influencer types everywhere. with trolleys at the shelves,
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: just certain products, filling trolleys. So I spent maybe an
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: hour following these people around, taking whatever they took because
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: I thought, shit, it must be good.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: So what did you get?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, like hair oils, amazing. Collagen, I don't know, serums
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: and sunscreens, like the works.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: So the sunscreens, though, you've got to be careful with
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: because our sunscreens, when it says SPF 50, it is
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: SPF 50. There are a lot of sunscreens that you
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: can buy from around the world. I don't know these
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: ones specifically, but it says SPF 50 and it might
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  Speaker 1: not be SPF at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the handbags I found that are gutsy, not Gucci. But, no,
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: it was incredible. Everything's so cheap. Yeah. Came back with
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: a fair bit of excess baggage. But, no, it was
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: good fun. Gordie organised. We had an actual birthday night
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: on the Saturday night and she organised a guy to
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: come in and just play his guitar.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: Play, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic, and sing to us. So we had a few
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: hours of that.
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  Speaker 1: But she did that for one reason.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I don't know that she did so much
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: as we made her. Right. Before he was about to leave. Like, Gordie,
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: you've got to sing to us. You've got to sing
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: to us. God, she's good.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: She's got a great voice.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Such an overachiever.
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: So, no, it was all in all fabulous time.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: She sang Oasis?
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: She sang Oasis, yes, and nailed it. Yeah. But, no,
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: so we arrived and Gordie, when we first saw her,
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: had this massive white patch on her knee with a
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: big bandage around it. She had been there for a
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: week already for a 60th. So she's just bringing it
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: down a decade every week or so. Anyway, was walking
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: just with some mates out shopping and there was a
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: bit of sand on some tile. Completely sober too, must
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  Speaker 2: point that out because in Bali it's quite often not
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  Speaker 2: the case. Was walking and she slipped on a bit
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  Speaker 2: of sand on this tile and felt herself going backwards.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: So she was thinking, need to put my knee down
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: and try and steady the ship here. Anyway, she put
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: her knee on the ground and there was a broken
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: tile and sliced the front of her knee off. Fourteen stitches. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a couple of days before we arrived.
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  Speaker 2: So the poor thing couldn't swim the whole time we
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: were there. It was on antibiotics at the back end
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: so it could hardly drink either. And then combine that
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: with the fact that every five seconds one of us
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: was saying, Gordie, Rose, where's the best place for blah
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: and blah? And blah, they were constantly just tour guides
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  Speaker 2: for us, so I cannot thank them enough. They would
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: have needed a holiday after us.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what Gordie did get after you guys was inducted.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she had to come home early. She wasn't coming
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: home until the Wednesday, but then found out her Order
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  Speaker 2: of Australia and Vestiture Ceremony was on the Wednesday and
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: flew home.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't the photo, she looked like the Chessie cat, didn't she?
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  Speaker 3: She was so happy. It was great. And she had
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: the barley tan happening and all and no sign of
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  Speaker 3: the bandage.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: No sign of a bandage or any blood seeping through
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  Speaker 1: or anything. So that was good. Yeah, congratulations. Susan Jane Gordian.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: I know, how good. She did say she was one
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: of only four or five women in the whole group.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Well, even that, women are getting out of hand. Liz,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: do you need to make some apologies to some men?
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, look, always, always just getting at it. But no,
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: just generally. No, I was just thinking though, like I've
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: only nominated one person. You know, you can go into
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: the website and you can nominate people for AMs or
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: like for that. And I nominated a woman who lives
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: in Ballina who is one of my mum's friends and
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: she's amazing. She just fundraisers. Like she's in her 90s
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: and she fundraisers and, you know, she's an amazing community person.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things that I keep seeing and
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: I keep getting messages about is if you know a
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: great woman, then nominate her for these things because, like,
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: the Australia Day Council can't just go and find people.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: They've got to be nominated.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So nominate a woman.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: That's great, Liz.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: That is a really helpful, you know, we've talked about
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: trying to adjust, you know, influence the algorithm, but this
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: is actually these Australia Day Awards and People can only
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: get them if they get nominated.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that people think that you have
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: to be, like, well-known or a celebrity. But this lady, Mary,
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: she's amazing. And I thought she needs to be recognised.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: So if it's someone who has been an amazing coach,
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: like a lot of the people who have got the
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: Win Beneath Our Wings Awards for us over the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of years, you could go and nominate them and
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: they would be amazing like that. So go and do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's not difficult. You just have to get a few referees.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: You've got to list out what they do and you
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: can't really tell them that you're doing it because it's
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: supposed to be a bit secret. But absolutely go and
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: do it because it's so worthwhile.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: And actually part of the purpose of it is to
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: acknowledge the people doing stuff that they don't get paid for.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: So it's not about... you know, celebrities or whatever. It
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: is about trying to find a way to show thanks
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: and recognition to all of these people who keep the
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: country moving by just doing stuff for no thanks and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: no reward and whatever and adding their expertise and mentoring
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: younger people. So I think that's really good. We should,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: as a dribble nation, be really making a point of going,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: let's get behind this nominations process. Let's think about all
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: of these people who are keeping our game alive at
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: the community level. Maybe they would like more than a
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: shitty scrunchie. Who knows?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Don't talk stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have a little break and come
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: back and talk about some knit balls.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Knit balls.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a fabulous time of year. I
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: did say earlier on there's not a lot of netball.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: There is some amazing netball. And last week we talked
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: at length about the World Cup qualifiers going on. So
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Tonga and Samoa have qualified for the World Cup. So
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: well done. And we have the World Cup qualifiers in
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Africa that's going on at the moment and will be
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: done by about the end of this week. But on
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: the weekend in Melbourne at Parkville at the State Netball
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Centre was the First Nations tournament and it's held for
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the third time and it went down to the wire.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: So that final between Queensland and WA, yeah, was amazing.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: And I watched the last few minutes online and Queensland,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: spoiler alert, Queensland won, but it was even and then
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: probably the last 30 seconds, Queensland just played the ball around.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: And the MVP for that game was Kayla Cubby. And
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: she was a goal shooter. And she was so calm,
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: like so amazing. So calm, just ran out of the circle,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: got the ball, distributed it, ran back, ran out. It
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: was so good to watch. And you could just see
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: that like everyone else around her, she was sort of
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: playing at a different speed to everybody else. She had
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: all the time in the world. thinking about things and
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: then just like slotted a coxie long bomb goal to
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: win the game in the dying seconds. It was amazing. Yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: it was great. Great netball.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So Kayla Cubby, that's a name that we should probably
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: expect to be hearing more of over the next couple
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: of years, hey?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Well, listening to that, she's given Joe Harton vibes. Mm-hmm.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: The way you describe her. Wow.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Queensland defeated Western Australia and obviously Western Australia
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: would be feeling very disappointed at that. But no one
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: really expected them on paper to make it as far
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: as they did. So it was a spectacular experience. from them.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: They defeated New South Wales on percentage to get into
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the finals there. And Western Australia had actually defeated Queensland
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: in the pool rounds there.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, what a great tournament.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And last year, I don't know if you remember
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: this one, but last year New South Wales won it
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: by a one-goal thriller in extra time over Queensland.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And this is like they played... seven rounds plus finals
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: over the course of a weekend. So that's like half
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: a Super Netball season played over the course of a weekend. Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: It's the third year of the First Nations tournament. So
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Queensland won it in 2024, New South Wales in 2025,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Queensland in 2026. So, yeah, I think it's a– these
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: tournaments are amazing opportunities to go along see a lot
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: of really high-quality netball in one place over one weekend.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: You know, we all talk about hoping the Team Girls
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Cup comes back at some stage, but these are, this
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is the equivalent of the Team Girls Cup at just
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the next level down, the future stars of the game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Well done. Come on, New South next year.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, you know, maybe South Australia would
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: like to win it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: No, we don't need to encourage that behaviour.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see maybe Tassie get up and have
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a win. That'd be good. The Lutrawidja, I believe. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: may have mispronounced their team name. But, yeah. So, anyway,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: we should get around these tournaments. And Kayla Cubby, let's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on her, hey?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great. I was really pleased just to see, like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of these kids, Sharon Finn and White has
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: had a bit to do with them through the Queensland pathways. So...
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's great. And it's a way for these young women
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to not just represent their culture, but to form really
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: important cultural connections, you know, as they come through the pathways.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And I think that's just super important. So there's so
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: many different things that this tournament achieves. And yep, the
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: netball was great. And it was unbelievable to see that
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: final and the way Queensland wound the clock down, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: to see all the other things that happened around and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: outside of it. is phenomenal as well. So it's great.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And another great platform to be able to get your
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: eyes on these athletes too, right?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that a number of them will start
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to show up in Super Netball in the next couple
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of years in training partners or 11th player positions. And
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Bec Pollard from the Swifts has sent me some more
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: information on how the 11th player and the training partner
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: system works. Shall I read that, Liz, or did you
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: want to say something more there?
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And I was going to say Scarlett Jaunce is one
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: of those young players, right? She's come through that First
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Nations pathway and she's been in the Australian 21s. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: so she's a player who will, I think, come through
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: into Super Netball in years to come. And she got
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to play through this First Nations tournament pathway. So she's
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: a really good example of it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great. Anyway, so thank you, Bec, for sending me
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: this information. So at the risk of dragging the 11th
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: player slash training partner conversation out even further, In addition
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to jared's very insightful contribution to the discussion on last
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: week's podcast and if you remember yeah he was sent
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: me some information after i just threw a question out
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to the universe i think there's one very key piece
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of information that's been left out but that changes the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: context of the 11th player versus training partner in short
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: aside from the qualifying criteria and 11th player must meet
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: from memory there are three athlete must meet two of them.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: The main difference between an 11th player and a training
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: partner is the 11th player can be named in the game,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: game day 10 at any time. So a player from
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the contracted 10 can be dropped based on form or
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: tactically and the 11th player can take their position. So
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: they don't have to wait for one of those 10
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to fall over with injury. They can bring that 11th
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: player in at any time. A training partner can only
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: be in the game day 10 as a temporary or
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: permanent injury, illness, pregnancy, et cetera, replacement, and this obviously
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: needs to be approved on each occasion by the league
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to verify the illness, injury, et cetera. So selection of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: an 11th player is a very tactical decision as they
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: are essentially at your disposal as a coach to use
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: at will throughout the season. I would imagine athletes who
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: can swing from a midcourt to a goal position would
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: be prime targets for coaches depending on the balance of
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: your contracted 10.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Well done, Bec Pollard. Very interesting stuff.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Getting smarter.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It is good to know, isn't it, because
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it's the ins and outs and the planning, the planning
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: around picking a roster and then with all the balls
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: in the air, just add so much.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: More to it, doesn't it? It was crazy, this everyone
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: off contract period, wasn't it? Because it's like you can
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: have all the plans that you like, but there were–
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Eight plans in play competing for the same players. It's
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: sort of nice to take a bit of a breath
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: now and go, what do the teams look like? Tipping's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: going to be tough though, isn't it?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I can't even.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I've got to get through Christmas first.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Toss a coin.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, every minute we talk, we get closer to Christmas.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Let's have a little break and then come back and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to talk about in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the third segment, but one of you has something that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you and I just haven't written it down.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I have a pen in my hand at all times
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and I didn't use it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I've got something I'll start with.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You've got something to start with.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Ellis on the way to Bali binge watched Ted Lasso.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: It is so good.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's great, isn't it?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted Ted Lasso in my life. Yeah. He's tops.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: He is so good, isn't he?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: So how far did you get through it?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: The whole first season. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So he's fabulous, but you need like to, you sort
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of have to keep, remember that he's a little bit
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: emotionally stunted in the first part.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: So he's all, you know, happy and all, you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: front or low, but, I remember watching and going, okay,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: what does he do when things aren't right? And you
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: sort of see that towards the end and that gets developed.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: But how amazing is it that did you write much
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: of it down?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: They're like all these little sayings.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Flashbacks for when you two were talking about stuff and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: throwing quotes around. I'll be in on the joke now.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But I loved it. I can't wait to watch the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: next few series, yeah?
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Who's your favourite character so far?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I love, oh, my God, I'm.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Going to forget his name. He started as like the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: drinks guy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Nate the Great.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Nate. I love him.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I love them all.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: They're all good. Oh, Catherine, I can't wait for you
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to keep watching.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to keep watching too and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: see the rise and rise of some of these characters.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We won't talk about it now.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, don't, don't.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: No, I'm glad. Welcome, welcome on board.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But thank you for that No Dribble recommends like a
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: year ago.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Well, welcome.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: There's four seasons now I think, aren't there?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, really?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not up to the fourth. I am up to
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: date on– Colin from Accounts though, have you guys seen it,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the end of it?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So great. Oh, no.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: So without spoiling anything, I reckon they did, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: very few TV series finish properly. They never have you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: go away going, I'm so sad that's over, but gee,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you did a great job of it. And I thought
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they did a fabulous job of finishing it in a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: way that really honoured what they had built the whole
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: way along. They didn't sort of, there weren't any cheap
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: outs or anything you know, big bows tied on storylines
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and things, but there were, you know, it felt a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: very satisfying ending.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Why do they have to finish, though? I know. As
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: soon as you find something good.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Because they've got little kids and Patrick Brown's career is
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: going off the charts. There's a new show. He looks
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like he's in quite a serious show that was advertised recently.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: And also the other person who's in that is Brendan Cowell,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: who looks quite like Patrick Bramwell. But Brendan Cowell has
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: written a great book called Plum.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I've read it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: It's really, what?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Hook, line and sinker.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, you haven't read it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, brilliant.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: That was way too easy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so you haven't. I thought it was so funny.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But it's about a retired rugby league player and you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: don't need to like rugby league to enjoy this. It's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a beautiful story of a man getting older. It was
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: really well worth watching. And I think it's been turned
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: into a TV series.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I will go and find that and read it. Catherine, however,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: will probably not. But it's interesting with Ted Lasso, when
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you get to the end of the third season, like
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: they try and wrap it up. And I just assumed
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: it was done because they always said there was only,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: it was always a three season arc. And obviously it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: done so well for themselves that they've come back. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing how they pick up after
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you thought all the loose ends had been all tied up.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Does it become quite repetitive given, I mean, how much
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: can you do the, I'm guessing, relatively the same kind
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of storyline?
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: No, but it's interesting. I think I said this last
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: week that Series 1, my 10-year-old son was hooked because
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: there was lots of football and Series 2, it becomes
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: more about the drama and the relationships. He's like, oh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: where's the football? I'm like, mate, this is not about football.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: This is about learning how to swear. Get with the program.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: This is the swearing show.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: This is a sweary show. But, yeah, Patrick Bramall looks
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: amazing in this drama-y one that he's doing.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just looked up what it's called and I've
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: immediately forgotten.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Have I told you guys my Patrick Bramall story?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: How's menopause going, Carolyn?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great. Have I told you my Patrick Bramall story
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: at the Logies? Have I brought you with this? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Remind me.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, I just went up to him at the Logies
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: and I forgot. He didn't know me because I'd watched
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the first series of Colin from Accounts a few years ago.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And I ran up to him. I'm like, oh, my God,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I just love you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And he looked at.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Me like I was an idiot. And I'm like, eh. Oh, yes,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you have told us that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's called Last Scene and it's on Apple TV. Yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it looks.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be why I would have seen it
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: because every time I was watching Ted Lasso with the kids,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: he keeps coming up.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to a report on that one. But, yes,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: read Brendan Cowell's book, Plum. It was very good. Liz,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I did actually have a few people contact me. last week,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: who tried to go and buy your mate Nye's book.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Nye's book.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's not out until the end of September.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's next week. What is it? What's the 21st? Okay,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: you've only got nine days to wait.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like a week ago it was two weeks.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So people were jumping on board with these things.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, well done, dribblers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yes. But so I did give an alternative because someone
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was saying, oh, I really wanted the recommendation for my
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: book club and I gave the recommendation of The Heir
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. Australian author, very interesting imagining of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a world where a member of the royal family wants
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to step out of being a royal princess and be
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a doctor in Tasmania. Great story. It's not something that
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I would expect that I would enjoy, but it's really
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: well written and entertaining.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So Julie Fitzgerald won't read that then?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: She won't read it because she doesn't read fiction.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I found that fascinating. I had a big chuckle. Only biographies, autobiographies.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point of reading is to get away
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: from real life.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It's like saying I don't want to watch a movie
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: because it hasn't happened. It's like, yeah, but that's sort
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: of the point is that it's like, hmm.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: That is a whole point. So the heir apparent, is
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: it H-E-I-R as opposed to heir, A-I-R?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's not about Shane Warne's foray into Ashley and Martin advertising.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I reckon, no, actually I've got one more quick
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: dilemma for you. So last weekend while you were in Bali,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I was down in Canberra with my nearest and dearest
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and I had a gig on Saturday night. But we
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: were talking, one of the discussions that we had over
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the course of that discussion is one of the girls,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: her husband needs to have a hip replacement, but he
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: wants to take the hip home with him. And one
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of my female friends said, yeah, I totally get it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It's mine.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I want it. I want to take it home with me.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: She's got her wisdom teeth. And it's like, why?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: On God's green earth, would you want to have a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: part of your body somewhere in your house?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Like I don't– Doesn't it disintegrate anyway though? Like how
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: long is that lasting or is that going to be a–
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I know skeletons are the last thing standing.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do with it? Yeah, skeletons
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: take a while. Like I mean it's sort of, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and I understand why the law is that you have
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to get– like this has to stay at the hospital.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Like it's human waste. It needs to be replaced. disposed
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of properly and you can't have these things falling into
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: nefarious hands or whatever. But I couldn't get over how
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: they were having this conversation like it was a perfectly
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: normal thing that if you have a hip replacement, you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: should be allowed to take your hip home with you.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't understand that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Are we talking one side like a socket or are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: we talking like the whole thing? It's not the pelvis.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: It's not the pelvis.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So it's not big.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: No, but does that make a difference?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you've got to think about storage. Where's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: his hip going.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: To hang out?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would make a difference to me
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: whether it was the tiny little thing I could lose
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: or it's like I don't want that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I keep teeth.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: That's disgusting. I was about to say I kept my kids'
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: first tooth that they lost and a lock of hair
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: and then I put Evelyn's away and then it was
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: in like a little silver box and And I found
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: it recently. I opened it up and I'm like, oh,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: my God, that's like human relics. It's like teeth and hair.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: It's like a bit weird. But at the time I
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's her first haircut.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: That's because of the oxytocin, right? You've got all of
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: this coursing through your body. It's this love hormone that
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: happens when you have a baby. And it's the reason
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that when you've not slept in six weeks and you're
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: so exhausted and this thing's screaming at you that your
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: response is, I love you, rather than, can you piss
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: off and leave me alone, please, you know, and that's
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: what it is. And so then things like I cried
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: when my son got his first haircut, which is deeply
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: embarrassing but also very, very normal. But have you seen those?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You can buy a gift for people when they have
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a baby. There's a little thing you can get and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it's like the shape of a mouth and you keep
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: each tooth.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Each one in order.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And it's like the shape of a mouth. and you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: can write the date that they lost it. It's like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: what do you do with that? Oh, no.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I just like to tip them out and try and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: work it out. Recreate the victim. Your Honour. Yeah. Well,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: maybe he felt as passionately about his hip. No judgement.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: That is fascinating, though, if you ever see a skull
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of a child because their adult teeth are there behind.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: They've got two rows of teeth all there because it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like they're... Wow. Yeah, and it really sort of looks
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like alien.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Where have we ended up? What's happening to this podcast?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. I was talking to Evelyn the other
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: day to... Well, she's 14 now, so she's doing all
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: this sort of stuff in science. And she was like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: did you know that when... If you've got a daughter
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: inside your womb, all of her eggs are already in her.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: So you've got your grandchildren. You carry your grandchildren. She's like,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: so once upon a time, me and Austin were inside Nanny.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, I knew that from when I
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: wrote my book about infertility, but I'd never personalised it before.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Isn't that phenomenal? It's so incredible.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: That's why my mum, any time my daughter does anything,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: my mum said, well, Well, hang on a minute. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: get where you're coming from. You did create me that
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: created her.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So is this when she does good things that your
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: mother is taking?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't happen often.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, but that's great things. Oh, that is funny. But, yeah,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: like so do you know when the thing is though,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: like when people like your mother wants to blame you
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: for your parents acting up, it's like actually they started
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: with you. It's your issue.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: That's when you flip it on its head. Has she
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: dissected frogs or anything yet at school? When does that happen? No.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know that we can
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: talk about Fargois and Vivisection in the same podcast without
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: being totally cancelled.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Were you guys okay with that when you had to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: do it at school?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fine. Were you?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think I was fine from memory, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I remember a lot of people not being.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: My mum was a biology teacher when I was sort
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of five or six and I remember having to go
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: drive with her to this place. It felt like it
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was ages away on the outskirts of Brisbane. to pick
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: up all the rats that were like pinned out on
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the boards. And like at that age it was just
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a deeply spooky, creepy thing that it's like we've got
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: all of these frozen dead animals.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And they're pre-pinned.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But teachers are amazing, aren't they? They're forever
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: doing stuff in their own time and out of their
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: own money and things to make the education system, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: stay afloat. Hug a teacher today. Yes, absolutely.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're allowed to do that anymore.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you're allowed to if they say that you're allowed to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: All right, I think we've descended into chaos here, as
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you say, with foie gras and vivisection. Is this a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: netball podcast? Kind of. It's also whatever we want to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: talk about. But it's great to have you back, Catherine.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It's nice to be back. We loved having Julie here
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: last week, but it's really nice to have you back.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But we will be back on Wednesday. On Friday? Friday.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Today's Wednesday. Today's Monday. I don't know. You know, everything
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is going wrong. I forgot what segment we were doing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe I need another coffee.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: But.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Share this podcast with a friend. We do have 25%
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of tickets left for the Constellation Cup Eve event, so
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: go to nodribble.com.au for the link to where you can
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: buy your tickets. It is shaping up to be the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: funnest one that we have ever had.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Bryony Akel will be there. Yes, absolutely. She's very excited.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Megan Anderson is a very good chance of being there
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: as well. Oh, that's exciting. We may have another very,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: very special guest.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: So... You need to be there.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: And Alex, our producer, who everyone hears this talk about
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: every week, she'll be joining us there that night because,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of course, Alex and I met through stand-up comedy. She
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: is a very, very accomplished and funny stand-up comedian. So
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: everyone gets to, you know, meet all the celebs.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Alex should do our welcome. You know how we have
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: in the past had a comedian do a welcome? Yeah,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that's right. Alex should do it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: She is.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, she is?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, brilliant.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Happy days.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Finally.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Please write all future ideas down on a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: piece of paper and hand them to me.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Share them. All right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Well, thanks for joining us.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis, and I'm so pleased that Coxie is
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: back with a tan that doesn't smell.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yes. None more than this one.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You know the office stank for... Three days.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I know because you kept texting us.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, good. Was it nice, though, to remember me when
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I wasn't here?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I never forget you, Catherine. There's no danger I'll forget you,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: so I don't need your stinky fake hand. Bye. Bye.