Latest / Chuck in the Morning / 10-21 H4: Cam Cleeland Joins, Al Kinisky & One Last Thing
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Your home for the Huskies proudly presents our weekly visit
- 0:04Speaker 1: with the dog's color commentator, Cam Cleland.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hallelujah, purple rain, let's go!
- 0:09Speaker 1: Brought to you by Warrior Injury Law, battle tested. Now
- 0:13Speaker 1: here's Chuck in the morning with the former Husky tight
- 0:16Speaker 1: end on Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM.
- 0:19Speaker 3: When's the last time you watched.
- 0:24Speaker 2: The movie Halloween, Cam? Man, that's a great question, Chuck.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I think last year.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Wow.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Do you still like it?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Because I hadn't watched it in years, and then I
- 0:38Speaker 3: watched it as an adult. I'm like, man, I can't
- 0:40Speaker 3: believe this movie is actually terrible. I can't believe this.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Well, we can't do that. You can't go back. You
- 0:46Speaker 2: can't look at all those movies in those times and
- 0:48Speaker 2: just be like, is it that Jamie Lee Curtis, a
- 0:50Speaker 2: guy driving a really bad station wagon? I mean, it
- 0:55Speaker 2: was a really bad station wagon. He just mysteriously picked
- 0:57Speaker 2: that one person.
- 0:58Speaker 3: You're not getting Jamie Lee Curtis with a station wagon.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Come on now.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I mean, no. I mean, you got to at least
- 1:04Speaker 2: have a VW Bug or something. I mean, that doesn't help.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I mean, it's worse. But that's, I mean, this is
- 1:11Speaker 2: the time of the year to just go back and
- 1:14Speaker 2: invest in all those movies. I mean, Friday the 13th.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I mean, all of it. Nightmare on Elm Street. You just,
- 1:20Speaker 2: you have to invest in that. The Howling. I mean,
- 1:23Speaker 2: this is just Silver Bullet. We're getting deep into those movies.
- 1:27Speaker 2: You have to.
- 1:28Speaker 3: I think Exorcist and Shining are still the best, the
- 1:31Speaker 3: two best.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And those were before. Yeah, no, they hold up.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Those were like when we, I wasn't even allowed to
- 1:36Speaker 3: watch those movies when I was a kid. So the
- 1:39Speaker 3: ones that I actually was allowed to watch, like the
- 1:41Speaker 3: Halloween Friday, the 13th Nightmare on Elm Street, I thought
- 1:44Speaker 3: those were the best at the time. And then I
- 1:47Speaker 3: got to be an adult and I went back and
- 1:48Speaker 3: watched them. That was a mistake, Cam. I should have
- 1:50Speaker 3: preserved that in my memory bank as wonderful. Not a big,
- 1:55Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I'm not a big horror movie guy.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Never really have been, but I appreciate a good solid eighties, seventies.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Those are, it's just, that's the heyday. Now it's just
- 2:05Speaker 2: somebody sitting in the back of a, in the baseball park, smiling,
- 2:08Speaker 2: trying to promote something. I'm like, I don't know what
- 2:10Speaker 2: we're doing. Some clown, some clown, some clown. That's a spider.
- 2:15Speaker 2: I mean, what? It doesn't, I don't know.
- 2:18Speaker 3: That's another thing that happened when, believe it or not,
- 2:20Speaker 3: for those young people listening, When I was young, they
- 2:23Speaker 3: were still trying to sell clowns as being entertainment options
- 2:27Speaker 3: for children. And then about 25 years ago, some psychiatrist
- 2:32Speaker 3: did a study and basically clowns scare children more than
- 2:36Speaker 3: anything on the planet. So now every horror movie features
- 2:40Speaker 3: some clown standing around the corner.
- 2:42Speaker 2: The clown. Who doesn't like a good clown? Obviously, I
- 2:47Speaker 2: guess kids don't. Apparently no one anymore, yeah.
- 2:51Speaker 3: All right, Cam Cleland is with us. I talk Halloween
- 2:55Speaker 3: because Cam loves himself some Halloween, so we've established that.
- 3:00Speaker 3: And he also loves himself some UW football and got
- 3:03Speaker 3: back on the winning track last Friday. That was nice
- 3:06Speaker 3: to see, and it was just kind of a complete game.
- 3:10Speaker 3: We had a running game on Friday against Purdue, and
- 3:13Speaker 3: it was a bit of a turnaround. Do you just
- 3:17Speaker 3: chalk it up to the change of quarterback, or what
- 3:20Speaker 3: else do you chalk up that performance to?
- 3:24Speaker 2: Well, if you go from the first play of the game,
- 3:26Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd start it. That's not the
- 3:29Speaker 2: way I would start a football game with a pick.
- 3:33Speaker 2: But I was pretty surprised when Jed won the toss
- 3:35Speaker 2: that he said, let's put the offense out there. But
- 3:37Speaker 2: it's gutsy because he wanted to have Elijah to get
- 3:39Speaker 2: some momentum early. And the second interception, it was tough.
- 3:44Speaker 2: The third one was not on him. But overall, 186
- 3:50Speaker 2: on the ground, Chuck, that's what it was. I mean,
- 3:52Speaker 2: this isn't rocket science. And then they flip the other
- 3:55Speaker 2: end and just go, you held– Femi, he's a boy
- 3:57Speaker 2: to 19 yards. A guy had 191 coming, 195 previously
- 4:03Speaker 2: against Minnesota coming into that game. He held them under
- 4:05Speaker 2: 100 yards on the ground. So you executed everything you
- 4:08Speaker 2: need to do in football is control the line of
- 4:11Speaker 2: scrimmage on defense, stop the run, and establish the line
- 4:15Speaker 2: of scrimmage. And you were able to run the football.
- 4:17Speaker 2: And you made some good adjustments. And running the football
- 4:21Speaker 2: is the answer to everybody's problem.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 4:24Speaker 2: As a football program. It is, it's, it's, it's equivalent
- 4:27Speaker 2: to just having the cheat code written on the inside
- 4:30Speaker 2: of your wrist that you never did. I never did in,
- 4:33Speaker 2: in my geometry class in high school. But so all,
- 4:37Speaker 2: all I'm telling you is, is that having Landon hatchet, obviously,
- 4:41Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned some stuff. I always do my
- 4:43Speaker 2: quick three at the end of when I, when I
- 4:46Speaker 2: process everything, Landon hatchet full time, his control of the
- 4:50Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and communication was a big deal. Upgrade
- 4:53Speaker 2: on the offensive line. You were stable on the offensive
- 4:57Speaker 2: line the entire time. Now, we do know that Garen
- 4:59Speaker 2: Hatchett was sick. Like, he had the bad flus. He
- 5:03Speaker 2: was horrible, but he was on the trip. So that
- 5:06Speaker 2: meant you had to have not only just a stable
- 5:11Speaker 2: whole group, but, I mean, Champ was at right guard
- 5:14Speaker 2: the entire time. Now, I'm going to be honest with you.
- 5:18Speaker 2: He's struggling. He's struggling a little bit with footwork. He's
- 5:21Speaker 2: struggling a little bit with penalties. But he was stable enough,
- 5:25Speaker 2: and the group was together the entire football game that
- 5:28Speaker 2: allowed Trey Cooley and Brian Bonner to get runs early.
- 5:32Speaker 2: And 21-27 for your quarterback. Elijah was efficient. The defense
- 5:37Speaker 2: was good. And that was rough, man. It was rough.
- 5:40Speaker 2: It was windy. It was cold. Somewhat of a hostile environment.
- 5:45Speaker 2: I thought it was a really cool environment. Great atmosphere.
- 5:47Speaker 2: And it was a huge win after that depressing previous week.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 5:51Speaker 3: So what would your level-headed response be as someone that's
- 5:57Speaker 3: been there, done that at the highest level possible to
- 6:01Speaker 3: the number of UW fans that now just want to
- 6:05Speaker 3: blame the entire season on DeMond Williams Jr.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's a joke. I mean, I don't buy
- 6:12Speaker 2: into that. I just look at it as this is
- 6:15Speaker 2: a team. You win and lose a team. There are
- 6:18Speaker 2: sparks to certain things, but I don't think when I
- 6:21Speaker 2: watched What Iowa did to our defense, I don't think
- 6:24Speaker 2: that was DeMond Williams, right? Last time I checked, DeMond
- 6:27Speaker 2: doesn't play defense. So when I go back to other
- 6:30Speaker 2: games and other situations and look throughout the USC game
- 6:34Speaker 2: and other things, if you have a great defense, you
- 6:38Speaker 2: can play. You can stop and you can control in
- 6:40Speaker 2: the run game. There's been no run game. So does
- 6:43Speaker 2: DeMond Williams leading the team in rushing, did that– did
- 6:48Speaker 2: prior to this week and I'm sorry leading the team
- 6:50Speaker 2: in carries he was second in rushing yardage but not
- 6:52Speaker 2: by much is the instability of the offensive line having
- 6:57Speaker 2: a left tackle left guard play center getting your starting
- 7:00Speaker 2: center who's a three and four year veteran come back
- 7:02Speaker 2: was at Demond Williams now look there are certain things
- 7:05Speaker 2: that I that Demond's skill set fit differently than Elijah
- 7:11Speaker 2: But I also have to look. I'm not defending. And
- 7:14Speaker 2: this is the part where it's, well, you're just defending.
- 7:16Speaker 2: You're looking at it. It's like, no, I evaluate as
- 7:18Speaker 2: an analyst, and I say this multiple times, the entire
- 7:21Speaker 2: football game. And I break down the offense, the defense,
- 7:24Speaker 2: the special teams, positions, and see that every football game
- 7:29Speaker 2: comes down to about six plays. But when you get
- 7:30Speaker 2: blown out at Iowa, that wasn't about six plays. That
- 7:33Speaker 2: was losing the line of scrimmage on both sides. None
- 7:36Speaker 2: of that. None of that was DeMond Williams. So was
- 7:39Speaker 2: there an emotional spark? Potentially. Potentially. And that, that, that happens.
- 7:44Speaker 2: What we see moving forward is the reason why I'm not,
- 7:47Speaker 2: I'm an analyst and not the head coach. That's up
- 7:50Speaker 2: the head coach's decision and how he feels, uh, which
- 7:53Speaker 2: way he wants this program to go the rest of
- 7:55Speaker 2: the season. And you have two competitive guys in a
- 7:57Speaker 2: room and we will find out what coach fish wants
- 8:01Speaker 2: to do moving forward.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Uh, do you, would you rather answer it as what
- 8:06Speaker 3: you think Jed Fish will do or what will Cam
- 8:08Speaker 3: Cleland do if he were in that seat? Because that's
- 8:11Speaker 3: the million dollar question. When the Huskies take the field again,
- 8:14Speaker 3: who's going to be the starting quarterback?
- 8:16Speaker 2: Man, I really, I mean, if you watched, we've all
- 8:20Speaker 2: watched everybody pretty much that's out there that like sports
- 8:22Speaker 2: has watched, uh, the Saban documentary, right? If we all
- 8:26Speaker 2: got to the point, am I going to be the
- 8:27Speaker 2: spoiler alert of what happens since it already happened?
- 8:30Speaker 3: I've only watched the first two episodes, but I am
- 8:33Speaker 3: loving it.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
- 8:34Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite sports documentaries ever.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Wonderful. Wonderful. You can ruin it for me. I'm not
- 8:39Speaker 2: going to say anything that hasn't. You can ruin it
- 8:41Speaker 2: for me. No, I'm not going to. I don't need
- 8:42Speaker 2: to ruin it for you, but because we already know
- 8:44Speaker 2: the answer. So it's like the answers to the test.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:46Speaker 2: We know there was a change at quarterback prior and
- 8:48Speaker 2: a halftime going into the national championship with Jalen Hurts
- 8:51Speaker 2: and Tua Tungavaiola. We know that. the way Nick Saban
- 8:55Speaker 2: talks about it, he says, I was processing this for
- 8:57Speaker 2: a long time. Okay. Almost, almost two months. He felt
- 9:02Speaker 2: like he was processing that when it happened, but their
- 9:04Speaker 2: defense was good enough. But in that point, when he
- 9:07Speaker 2: made that decision, he put two in because they knew
- 9:09Speaker 2: they had to adjust to the past. I'm now going
- 9:12Speaker 2: to look at coach fish. I don't think he's been
- 9:14Speaker 2: processing this for a very long time. This is my speculation.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So there's, there's an evaluation of games. He needs to
- 9:20Speaker 2: look at on film. Now that, There is stability in
- 9:24Speaker 2: the running game. Am I telling you straight up that
- 9:27Speaker 2: I think that DeMond can make some of the throws
- 9:29Speaker 2: at Elijah? Yes, I do.
- 9:30Speaker 5: I do.
- 9:31Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that. Is DeMond different in the
- 9:34Speaker 2: pocket than Elijah?
- 9:36Speaker 4: 100%.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Is Elijah more efficient on short, intermediate, decisive throws? 100%.
- 9:43Speaker 2: But I also watched DeMond Williams do a great job
- 9:46Speaker 2: in Maryland last year with a better offensive line and
- 9:49Speaker 2: a better run game. I watched him play an amazing
- 9:50Speaker 2: bowl game. Certainly, Wisconsin was brutal, but there were some
- 9:54Speaker 2: games at home where I saw a great defense and
- 9:56Speaker 2: a good run game and i saw a kid play
- 9:58Speaker 2: really decisive so i've seen how he can play electrically
- 10:04Speaker 2: so i don't have a definitive answer for you and
- 10:07Speaker 2: that's why i don't have to i don't have to
- 10:08Speaker 2: pick who the quarterback is that's not my job it's
- 10:11Speaker 2: not i don't i don't have to do it i
- 10:12Speaker 2: just get to watch it and sit back because there's
- 10:15Speaker 2: a lot of coaches out there's a lot of experts
- 10:17Speaker 2: listening and on Twitter and out there that are just,
- 10:20Speaker 2: this is what needs to happen. Well, okay, well, let's
- 10:23Speaker 2: let the decision makers and let the chips fall with
- 10:25Speaker 2: me and see what happens.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Cam Cleland is with us. Former Huskies tied in, of course,
- 10:30Speaker 3: voice of the dogs is segment with us every week,
- 10:32Speaker 3: brought to you by warrior injury law battle tested as
- 10:36Speaker 3: the Huskies are on by this week and, uh, won't
- 10:39Speaker 3: play again until Lincoln, Nebraska. Before I get to that,
- 10:43Speaker 3: I want to ask, because as I'm watching the Saban documentary,
- 10:48Speaker 3: I've had someone suggest that Saban reminds them of Don James.
- 10:52Speaker 3: I never got to know Don James personally. I just
- 10:55Speaker 3: moved here 11 years ago. You played for the man,
- 10:58Speaker 3: for goodness sake. Are there similarities? When you watch the
- 11:03Speaker 3: Saban documentary, does it remind you of Coach James?
- 11:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. In my experience with Coach James, Coach
- 11:11Speaker 2: James wasn't as demonstrative as Coach Saban was. Very handsy, talker, loud,
- 11:18Speaker 2: chew out. It was more of, I've never seen somebody
- 11:24Speaker 2: at 5'10, terrify 6'8, 350-pound men. I've never seen anybody
- 11:26Speaker 2: control a room like And when I still remember when
- 11:35Speaker 2: he was in my house and when I stepped in
- 11:38Speaker 2: his office, the amount of respect that he just carried.
- 11:44Speaker 2: He was honest. And my fast story is, even as
- 11:49Speaker 2: I was a freshman, he used to have a tower. Guys,
- 11:52Speaker 2: he had a tower. He would sit in the tower
- 11:53Speaker 2: and he would take notes and he would oversee the
- 11:55Speaker 2: entire practice. And here I'm just a useless freshman. I'm
- 11:58Speaker 2: just a freshman. Nobody cares. Get your ass out of
- 12:01Speaker 2: all the other, get your ass out of the way.
- 12:03Speaker 2: I'm walking off the field and, and coach James says, Hey, Cam,
- 12:08Speaker 2: you know, and play seven and scout team stuff. I'm
- 12:11Speaker 2: going to need you to finish different with your feet.
- 12:13Speaker 2: And I need you to get up field and get
- 12:15Speaker 2: to that next level. I was like, Holy crap. He
- 12:19Speaker 2: saw me play seven on scout team. And I was
- 12:24Speaker 2: just like, um, you can't, he, I swear to you
- 12:29Speaker 2: to this point. He remembered my parents' names. In 2014,
- 12:33Speaker 2: when I latched this, how's Gene, how's Camille doing? This
- 12:38Speaker 2: is 30, 40 years later, he knew my parents. He
- 12:40Speaker 2: was the most incredibly detailed man I've ever been around
- 12:45Speaker 2: when it comes to coaching and a genius. And you
- 12:47Speaker 2: get to see what Coach Saban says. I mean, he
- 12:50Speaker 2: gives him all the credit of what got him started, certainly,
- 12:54Speaker 2: in being that way. So yeah, Coach James was, he
- 12:57Speaker 2: was special. That's great. That is great.
- 13:00Speaker 3: All right, so next game will be on Halloween, the
- 13:04Speaker 3: holiday you like so much, in Lincoln, Nebraska, which is
- 13:07Speaker 3: one of those places that truly does shut down all
- 13:10Speaker 3: day long. Once upon a time, they used to be
- 13:13Speaker 3: a powerhouse. It's been a while since they've been considered
- 13:16Speaker 3: the best program, arguably, in the country. But when I
- 13:19Speaker 3: grew up, that was Nebraska football. I don't know how
- 13:23Speaker 3: often you've been there, but how much are you looking
- 13:25Speaker 3: forward to the experience of going to Lincoln, watching a
- 13:29Speaker 3: game in that hallowed stadium, and doing it on one
- 13:34Speaker 3: of your favorite holidays?
- 13:36Speaker 2: No, I just hope that I can get enough candy
- 13:38Speaker 2: on that day. I thought about just dressing up in
- 13:40Speaker 2: my old football uniform and just walking around.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Whatever you do, don't dress up as a corn farmer
- 13:45Speaker 3: because you'll just blend in and no one will think
- 13:47Speaker 3: you're celebrating.
- 13:49Speaker 2: That's not fun. That's not fun. No, I've got to
- 13:52Speaker 2: be completely opposite. I've been to Lincoln a couple times.
- 13:58Speaker 2: I never got to play there as a player. I
- 13:59Speaker 2: certainly played Nebraska as a player. My fondest memory is
- 14:03Speaker 2: watching that 1991 game. in the dark at night game
- 14:08Speaker 2: and seeing that come back with Jay Berry down the sideline,
- 14:11Speaker 2: that's incredible. And I've also seen absolute slaughters by Nebraska
- 14:16Speaker 2: in Lincoln before of our Huskies. So I'm pretty pumped
- 14:19Speaker 2: to get back there. Yeah, it is on my favorite
- 14:22Speaker 2: holiday with there, but look, they're reeling. They got beat
- 14:25Speaker 2: by Oregon. They should have won that football game, but
- 14:30Speaker 2: I mean, they've lost two games in a row. by
- 14:33Speaker 2: fractions of points against two monster teams. You lose the Indiana.
- 14:37Speaker 2: You lose the Oregon on the road. Now they're at home.
- 14:39Speaker 2: So this is– they're gettable. Their coach is always a
- 14:44Speaker 2: little bit nervous. I like their coach. I like everything
- 14:47Speaker 2: about him. I like their quarterback, Calandria. He's athletic. He's fast.
- 14:51Speaker 2: He's all over– he's a little Demond Williams in a sense.
- 14:53Speaker 2: He's fast. He's all over the place. They're going to
- 14:56Speaker 2: play really good defense. But now– The best part about
- 15:00Speaker 2: this quarterback situation is, when it comes to Washington, is
- 15:04Speaker 2: you have to prepare for two quarterbacks. Because if you're Jed,
- 15:08Speaker 2: there's no way you're announcing anybody until probably Friday or
- 15:13Speaker 2: maybe Saturday afternoon. You don't have to say anything. You
- 15:17Speaker 2: don't have to say anything. Now people are going to
- 15:18Speaker 2: be spying at practice and see if they're splitting reps,
- 15:21Speaker 2: but that might be a telltale sign. Who gets the
- 15:24Speaker 2: more reps in practice? But I'm sure Jed will be
- 15:27Speaker 2: very smart with that also. There's some strategery that needs
- 15:30Speaker 2: to happen, but this is a big game road game.
- 15:32Speaker 2: You got to get right. We don't know. I don't
- 15:34Speaker 2: know some of the injuries that happened to us with
- 15:36Speaker 2: Trey and his shoulder. We're down with running backs. We got,
- 15:41Speaker 2: but it's, it's, this is, this is football. This is
- 15:44Speaker 2: the dog days of football where you grind it out
- 15:47Speaker 2: and find a way to dig. And this is a,
- 15:49Speaker 2: we're going to see what this Husky team does. And I'm,
- 15:51Speaker 2: I'm home feeling Chuck. That was a turning point game
- 15:55Speaker 2: for this season. and we're going to see what the
- 15:57Speaker 2: rest of these guys like to fight with the rest
- 15:59Speaker 2: of the year.
- 16:00Speaker 3: All right, last couple minutes, I want to ask you
- 16:03Speaker 3: one last thing, and I just want to let you
- 16:05Speaker 3: know that I feel, like, blessed that during the course
- 16:09Speaker 3: of the week, I've got a national college football insider
- 16:13Speaker 3: analyst named Rick Neuheisel who I think does a great job,
- 16:16Speaker 3: and then I've got the local guy in Cam Cleland.
- 16:18Speaker 3: I just think I've got the best college football guys
- 16:21Speaker 3: going on a weekly basis, and yet I can't tell
- 16:24Speaker 3: you the pain that I felt find out that both
- 16:26Speaker 3: you and coach new heisel actually want a 2014 playoff
- 16:31Speaker 3: in college football i know hurts my soul a little
- 16:33Speaker 3: bit uh i would like for you to explain yourself
- 16:36Speaker 3: mr cleland um here in the last couple of minutes
- 16:39Speaker 3: so why on earth.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Do you want this dumb idea of a system that's
- 16:44Speaker 2: a whole that's a whole thing at least i know
- 16:46Speaker 2: where you stand and i can appreciate it i really
- 16:49Speaker 2: can i can appreciate the fact that we need to
- 16:51Speaker 2: have 138 teams and only 12 get in. I appreciate
- 16:55Speaker 2: the fact that someone needs to argue that to me
- 16:58Speaker 2: over and over again. When there isn't one playoff system
- 17:01Speaker 2: in not only the world, you know what we should
- 17:03Speaker 2: do with the next World Cup? We should only have four.
- 17:05Speaker 2: You know what? Let's just, I just want Argentina and
- 17:08Speaker 2: I want Germany and France and US. You guys can
- 17:11Speaker 2: play in the seventh level down and you can relegate
- 17:14Speaker 2: out of it every year. Let's make that make sense.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Let's do everything we can to not locally and every
- 17:21Speaker 2: program have a shot. Here's my final comment with that.
- 17:26Speaker 2: This is where I look at it, is that even
- 17:28Speaker 2: when I was around and I played, there was a
- 17:30Speaker 2: time when someone told me, did you know they used
- 17:32Speaker 2: to crown a national championship before they even played the
- 17:34Speaker 2: Rose Bowl? How dumb does that sound, Chuck? Oh, that
- 17:37Speaker 2: was the worst. That really happened. That's the worst. Texas
- 17:40Speaker 2: won a national championship before they even played. This is USC.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Before they even played. So we've evolved pretty good, right?
- 17:47Speaker 2: We used to have a computer. Tell us if we
- 17:49Speaker 2: were good enough. Some guys on a computer that was
- 17:51Speaker 2: some nerds punching clock. Oh, that sounds good.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Yeah, 100 years of disaster with the worst postseason ever.
- 17:58Speaker 3: And then we finally get a decent one with 12 teams,
- 18:00Speaker 3: which is a good number. And now we're going to
- 18:03Speaker 3: go too far the other way. Because, Cam, there aren't
- 18:06Speaker 3: 12 teams that could win a national championship.
- 18:09Speaker 2: There just aren't. 100% incorrect. Did you watch the bloodbath
- 18:14Speaker 2: last week? Here's the other aspect of this.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Anybody can win on a given Saturday.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Can you run the table? That's the point. College football
- 18:24Speaker 2: still needs hope. I have factual reality. I know if
- 18:29Speaker 2: I'm 6'5, and I'm blocking a guy that's 5'2, I'm
- 18:31Speaker 2: going to kick his ass every once in a while.
- 18:33Speaker 2: But David beats Goliath every once. Every one time, I
- 18:37Speaker 2: just need one stone. I just need hope. So if
- 18:39Speaker 2: you're Oregon State, and you're playing phenomenally, and you're Mike Riley,
- 18:44Speaker 2: and you're the 2001 team or the 2000 team, and
- 18:47Speaker 2: you beat Oregon, do you want a shot? Do you
- 18:50Speaker 2: want to know that you have a shot, or do
- 18:52Speaker 2: you want someone to say you were never good enough,
- 18:54Speaker 2: you're never, ever, ever good enough as a fan base
- 18:56Speaker 2: and as a school? My always point is this has
- 18:59Speaker 2: been going on in the FBS. It happens in men's basketball.
- 19:02Speaker 2: It happens in volleyball. It happens in every other sport collegiately, softball, baseball.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Why does football hold this so true to their soul?
- 19:13Speaker 2: And if nobody's argument is actual factual evidence of what
- 19:17Speaker 2: you think is right, because NIL has now made it
- 19:22Speaker 2: so players can be more, not only movable, but you
- 19:26Speaker 2: used to have Alabama had four deep and four deep
- 19:29Speaker 2: was NFL talent because they went there because they wanted
- 19:32Speaker 2: the next jump to the NFL. That's what guys want.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Everybody sticks their hand up at the power five level
- 19:37Speaker 2: thinking they're going to make it to the NFL. But
- 19:40Speaker 2: they only went to a couple programs because they thought
- 19:42Speaker 2: that was the fastest way. Now they can get in
- 19:44Speaker 2: the NFL anywhere. So they can get money anywhere. So
- 19:47Speaker 2: that spreads the talent. So that means... anybody, any team
- 19:51Speaker 2: at any point has a shot. Now, will it happen
- 19:56Speaker 2: every year? Probably not. But I just want hope because
- 19:59Speaker 2: I like that idea of having hope. And I've seen
- 20:02Speaker 2: it happen at the FCS level already and how successful
- 20:05Speaker 2: it's been for years and years and years. And to
- 20:08Speaker 2: back that up, it says you still get dominance. The
- 20:11Speaker 2: Dakotas have dominated, dominated with a 24-team playoff for years.
- 20:16Speaker 2: They moved up this year. Teams want a shot at
- 20:19Speaker 2: the big chance. And that's why I say it's important.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Over and over. All right. We're going to put a
- 20:25Speaker 2: pin in this. We're going to have another discussion.
- 20:27Speaker 6: I want to continue this.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to have a longer.
- 20:29Speaker 3: Discussion about this at a future date.
- 20:31Speaker 2: This is a whole podcast.
- 20:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Oh, sure. We can go deep. I will just dive deeper.
- 20:37Speaker 2: An attack, an eviscerate. No, I'm not telling you. Hey,
- 20:40Speaker 2: you know what I'm going to do?
- 20:41Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to college. I'm going to
- 20:43Speaker 3: make this my master's. I'm going to do my thesis
- 20:45Speaker 3: on it, and I'm going to become a doctor. I'm
- 20:48Speaker 3: going to get my doctorate in why the college football
- 20:51Speaker 3: playoff should hold at 12. That's what I'm going to do.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Well, you're just a radio.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Then you're going to argue with Dr. Powell on a
- 20:57Speaker 3: topic that you are just not educated as well.
- 21:01Speaker 2: I like this. You go ahead and you crap in
- 21:04Speaker 2: one hand and look in the other. See which one
- 21:06Speaker 2: fills up with more intelligence.
- 21:07Speaker 6: All right, man.
- 21:10Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Appreciate you, my friend. Next time.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Cam Cleland joining us right here on Chuck in the Mornings.
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- 21:36Speaker 3: Coming up next, Al Koniski is going to join us
- 21:38Speaker 3: on KJR.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Oh, just look like one of those.
- 21:43Speaker 4: Put your feet up on the desk kind.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Of nights at the rink.
- 22:08Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the Red Wings made things tricky.
- 22:11Speaker 3: They scored three times in the third. Forced overtime. Nothing
- 22:15Speaker 3: was settled in the overtime. Go to a shootout. Kraken win.
- 22:21Speaker 3: Four to three in the shootout over the Detroit Red Wings.
- 22:23Speaker 3: That's two points, people. Joining us now to celebrate two points, people,
- 22:27Speaker 3: is the color analyst for your Seattle Kraken. As heard
- 22:30Speaker 3: last night on the call, Al Koniski is with us.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Good morning, Al.
- 22:35Speaker 4: Good morning, Chuck.
- 22:36Speaker 1: How are you?
- 22:37Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. Doing all right.
- 22:39Speaker 3: What were you thinking as with seconds remaining in regulation,
- 22:44Speaker 3: the Red Wings had tied it up. As you were
- 22:47Speaker 3: going into overtime, what were your emotions, Al Koniski?
- 22:52Speaker 4: Well, my emotions were this is a team that looks
- 22:55Speaker 4: very different than the one that the Kraken played two
- 22:58Speaker 4: weeks ago and put six goals up on. This is
- 23:01Speaker 4: a team coming into the building with a lot of confidence,
- 23:03Speaker 4: and I'm not surprised They battled to the end. I
- 23:07Speaker 4: was disappointed they were able to get up on the board, but,
- 23:10Speaker 4: you know, a couple of lucky calls their way put
- 23:14Speaker 4: them on the power play, and they found the back
- 23:16Speaker 4: of the net, but good teams find ways to win,
- 23:18Speaker 4: and the Kraken did that last night.
- 23:20Speaker 7: Yeah, what about the shootout? All of a sudden, is
- 23:22Speaker 7: it strength for the Kraken? Is there anything to that?
- 23:24Speaker 7: Is it just kind of luck? The skills competition's been
- 23:27Speaker 7: kind to the Seattle team in the early part of
- 23:29Speaker 7: the season.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an area of opportunity last year that
- 23:34Speaker 4: the Kraken were struggling in and leaving points on the table.
- 23:38Speaker 4: Let's remember how close the team was to being in
- 23:41Speaker 4: the playoffs last year. So I think in an effort
- 23:43Speaker 4: to not leave those points on the table, a lot
- 23:45Speaker 4: of the guys took it on their own to go
- 23:48Speaker 4: figure out how to be better at scoring in the shootout.
- 23:52Speaker 4: And better in the overtime as well, but specifically the shootout.
- 23:56Speaker 4: And Lane Lambert talked about that in his postgame last
- 23:58Speaker 4: night that Now that the Kraken have a full-time e-bug
- 24:02Speaker 4: emergency backup goaltender, that goaltender can take hundreds of shots
- 24:07Speaker 4: after practice, whether it's breakaways or whatever. And he's part
- 24:11Speaker 4: of the reason why the Kraken have gotten better at shootouts.
- 24:14Speaker 4: The guys are practicing this on a regular basis, specifically
- 24:18Speaker 4: Nick Stroh and Bobby McMahon last night got it done
- 24:22Speaker 4: for the win.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Well, in my non-expert opinion, I would not do a
- 24:26Speaker 3: shootout without Bobby McMahon. He looks like he has a
- 24:29Speaker 3: true skill for this particular event.
- 24:34Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a shooter. He doesn't see too many pucks
- 24:37Speaker 4: that he doesn't want to put on net. You know,
- 24:39Speaker 4: when given the opportunity to go man versus man on
- 24:42Speaker 4: the goaltender, you want to put him in every time.
- 24:45Speaker 4: Where you put him, that's the strategy. But Lane Lambert
- 24:48Speaker 4: choosing a little bit later in the shootout to get
- 24:50Speaker 4: him down there and He found the back of the net.
- 24:53Speaker 4: It was a huge goal.
- 24:54Speaker 7: I have a man crush on Brandon Montour, Al, as
- 24:57Speaker 7: you well know. So just kind.
- 25:00Speaker 4: Of tell us.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Join the list.
- 25:01Speaker 6: Join the list. He carved his.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Name into the desk here today with a heart around it.
- 25:06Speaker 7: It's very true.
- 25:08Speaker 2: B-M-A-H. Heart.
- 25:10Speaker 6: So I'm just.
- 25:12Speaker 7: Obviously, he missed the last game of the road trip
- 25:14Speaker 7: against Florida. The Kraken, you know, get blown out in
- 25:17Speaker 7: that one. He comes back against Detroit here. He scores
- 25:21Speaker 7: in the Kraken win. Besides the obvious, like, you know,
- 25:24Speaker 7: he scores a goal and helps them win a game.
- 25:26Speaker 7: What does he bring and why is he so important
- 25:28Speaker 7: to this team? And, you know, talk about why he
- 25:32Speaker 7: is so important to come back after injury.
- 25:36Speaker 4: All the obvious stuff is the offense he brings to
- 25:38Speaker 4: the blue line. He quarterbacks the second power play unit. Obviously,
- 25:42Speaker 4: he shoots the puck very well. The goal last night
- 25:46Speaker 4: proving that. But I think the intangibles are he's a
- 25:50Speaker 4: leader on the bench. He wears an A for a reason.
- 25:53Speaker 4: His His personality can help you bring you up when
- 25:57Speaker 4: you're down and settle you down when you're a little
- 25:59Speaker 4: bit too high. He's in keeping with the young guys.
- 26:03Speaker 4: There's a lot of little things that he does when
- 26:06Speaker 4: he's not even on the ice that helps his team win.
- 26:08Speaker 4: So getting him back in the lineup last night was huge.
- 26:11Speaker 3: Al Koniski is with us, color analyst for your Seattle Kraken.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Last night, Kraken win 4-3 in a shootout over the
- 26:17Speaker 3: Detroit Red Wings at home. Al and Everett on the call.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Dylan Larkin playing for Detroit. Obviously, he's not in a
- 26:26Speaker 3: good position with that organization. Is that somebody that maybe,
- 26:33Speaker 3: I mean, if this start is real for the Kraken,
- 26:36Speaker 3: I mean, he has the short list of teams he
- 26:38Speaker 3: would play for and Kraken are not on that short
- 26:41Speaker 3: list of teams, but do you think that maybe if
- 26:45Speaker 3: they keep their winning ways that that would be somebody
- 26:48Speaker 3: that makes sense for Seattle down the line?
- 26:50Speaker 4: I mean, he's definitely on the list, and I have
- 26:54Speaker 4: to believe that he's somebody that GM Jason Botterill is
- 26:58Speaker 4: talking to Detroit about. Simon Edmonton's another one of Detroit's
- 27:01Speaker 4: defensemen that's kind of in the same boat. Lots of
- 27:04Speaker 4: conversations probably going on between Seattle and Detroit, but Everybody's
- 27:09Speaker 4: got to do their part. And last night I was
- 27:10Speaker 4: between the benches and during immediate timeout, Dylan Larkin came
- 27:15Speaker 4: over and wanted to see my stats. So, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 4: trying to do my part and show what a great
- 27:20Speaker 4: city this is and how welcoming we are. You know,
- 27:23Speaker 4: I turned my book a little bit his way so
- 27:25Speaker 4: he could see. So hopefully that's going to move the needle.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Man, I hope that happens when we trade for him
- 27:31Speaker 3: and he says, you know, it was really my connection
- 27:33Speaker 3: that I made with Al Koniski.
- 27:35Speaker 2: He shared everything.
- 27:36Speaker 3: His stat book with me, and I'm here because of
- 27:40Speaker 3: one man, really, and his name is Alan J.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Koniski.
- 27:45Speaker 4: That three and a half seconds, you know, where we just,
- 27:48Speaker 4: you know, our eyes are locked. You know, and I
- 27:52Speaker 4: think that might be the difference maker.
- 27:54Speaker 6: Talk about man crushes.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Wow.
- 27:55Speaker 6: Okay, here we go. Dylan Larkin, Al Kaniski. Let's go.
- 27:59Speaker 7: What about internal improvements? Berkeley Caton looks like he's taken
- 28:02Speaker 7: a huge step. What's been behind his just total confidence
- 28:06Speaker 7: he's looking like he's playing with on the ice right now?
- 28:10Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it would be easy for me to
- 28:11Speaker 4: say player development, but, you know, everybody has the ability
- 28:15Speaker 4: to develop as a player. I don't care if you're
- 28:17Speaker 4: Jordan Eberle or Berkeley Caton and Ripley Catton has taken
- 28:21Speaker 4: a big step in the offseason through the training camp
- 28:24Speaker 4: and now 10 games in where he looks like he's
- 28:27Speaker 4: a different player. And I don't mean different in terms
- 28:29Speaker 4: of he's changed his game, but he's faster. He's more confident.
- 28:34Speaker 4: He's shooting the puck well. He's settling in on that
- 28:37Speaker 4: line with Capococco and Shane Wright where they look like
- 28:40Speaker 4: they've been together for a while. And I think that,
- 28:43Speaker 4: you know, he's looking like more of a leader out there,
- 28:46Speaker 4: whereas he looked like last year more of a guy that's,
- 28:49Speaker 4: you know, trying to fit in but just trying to
- 28:51Speaker 4: find his way totally so yeah big big step forward
- 28:55Speaker 4: this year for brinkley cotton and i so far you
- 28:58Speaker 4: know again 10 games in he's looking to me like
- 29:00Speaker 4: he could be one of the guys that has the biggest.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Uh uh upside in his season you know i lived
- 29:08Speaker 3: in arizona for 15 years and i just watched the
- 29:11Speaker 3: coyotes just fail as an organization like just ownership wasn't
- 29:16Speaker 3: right fan base wasn't right stadium arena never got it
- 29:21Speaker 3: right and it and and then all of a sudden
- 29:24Speaker 3: they become the utah foot our hockey team and then
- 29:28Speaker 3: they even waited a year before they even named the
- 29:30Speaker 3: team now they're the utah mammoth and it just feels
- 29:34Speaker 3: like everything they do has been right since they got
- 29:38Speaker 3: there um you speak to that at all about just
- 29:42Speaker 3: how important that structure is from top to bottom in
- 29:45Speaker 3: the NHL to go from wayward to, man, they seem
- 29:49Speaker 3: to have things solved. I bring them up because that's
- 29:52Speaker 3: the next opponent for the Kraken. What's the murmur around
- 29:57Speaker 3: the league that people say about how quickly Utah's gone
- 30:00Speaker 3: from a wayward franchise in Arizona to suddenly an organization
- 30:06Speaker 3: that doesn't seem to do anything wrong right now.
- 30:09Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, a new franchise in Utah, obviously, but
- 30:12Speaker 4: from an existing player base, so very different than the
- 30:15Speaker 4: Seattle Kraken or the Vegas Golden Knights, if you will,
- 30:18Speaker 4: in terms of new franchises in the league. But this
- 30:22Speaker 4: is a group that's owned by Ryan and Ashley Smith,
- 30:26Speaker 4: and And they've given them the green light to say,
- 30:29Speaker 4: tell us what you need to be a top team
- 30:34Speaker 4: in this NHL. And they've delivered and they continue to deliver,
- 30:37Speaker 4: whether it's the facilities, whether it's, you know, what the
- 30:39Speaker 4: players need off the ice, they're getting everything. They're taking
- 30:43Speaker 4: away all the excuses. And I think that's a big
- 30:46Speaker 4: reason for why this team that, again, started as a
- 30:50Speaker 4: team in Arizona has now taken the next step and,
- 30:53Speaker 4: They're coming to Seattle here Thursday against the Kraken, and
- 30:56Speaker 4: they're red hot right now. This is going to be
- 30:58Speaker 4: a big test. It's as big as the Kraken saw
- 31:01Speaker 4: on the road with Tampa Bay, Washington, and Florida.
- 31:05Speaker 5: All right, Al.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much, sir. Thank you for all
- 31:08Speaker 3: of your legwork on getting Dylan Larkin to Seattle.
- 31:12Speaker 2: We really appreciate that.
- 31:13Speaker 4: We'll lock that deal down here, and you can thank
- 31:16Speaker 4: me later.
- 31:17Speaker 3: You know, a lot of guys get signed based off
- 31:19Speaker 3: good eye contact.
- 31:21Speaker 2: I've found.
- 31:24Speaker 4: You got to give them the right, right, right.
- 31:27Speaker 3: It's the key to everything. All right, Al, we'll talk
- 31:29Speaker 3: to you soon. All right, final segment of the show
- 31:44Speaker 3: as we get ready to wrap things off and hand
- 31:47Speaker 3: them off to Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre. But we
- 31:51Speaker 3: do have time for one last thing, so let's go
- 31:53Speaker 3: around the room.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Andrew, let's get it started.
- 31:55Speaker 7: So we talked about Junior Caminero's home run celebration earlier today,
- 31:59Speaker 7: and I don't know if you guys noticed, but at
- 32:01Speaker 7: the very end of it, you know what he did?
- 32:04Speaker 7: He pointed to someone in the crowd and did a
- 32:06Speaker 7: very signature celebration, the Randy Rosarena.
- 32:10Speaker 6: And he was pointing to Randy Rosarena. Because Randy Rosarito
- 32:13Speaker 6: was there last night. Or not last night. Two nights ago.
- 32:16Speaker 5: I was.
- 32:17Speaker 2: He was doing something.
- 32:18Speaker 6: I didn't even.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:19Speaker 6: Yeah, he did that.
- 32:19Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't put it together.
- 32:20Speaker 7: If you rewatch it. And Randy was there. They showed
- 32:22Speaker 7: him a couple times. Tyler Glasnow was there. Brett Phillips.
- 32:25Speaker 7: The kind of old... Yeah. The 2020-ish team that went
- 32:28Speaker 7: to the World Series. I don't know if, like, Snell
- 32:30Speaker 7: was there. That would have been interesting to see if
- 32:32Speaker 7: he was there. His teammate was. So, yeah.
- 32:35Speaker 6: I just... That kind of got me thinking. I was like, dang.
- 32:37Speaker 6: I'm going to miss that guy. Because I... He's not
- 32:40Speaker 6: coming back.
- 32:41Speaker 2: No, he's not.
- 32:42Speaker 7: So it was cool that he was there supporting his teammate. And,
- 32:45Speaker 7: you know, it just reminded me of something.
- 32:46Speaker 2: I was like.
- 32:48Speaker 6: Dang it.
- 32:49Speaker 7: We're not going to have that kind of aspect of
- 32:50Speaker 7: this team anymore. The Randy Roseran aspect.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Well, it does prove that there was at least one
- 32:55Speaker 3: guy that liked him in Tampa.
- 32:56Speaker 2: True.
- 32:57Speaker 6: Yeah. And he was.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Because I'm going to tell you, Yandy Diaz is never
- 33:01Speaker 3: going to do that in Randy's direction.
- 33:02Speaker 2: No, he would not. Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:04Speaker 1: And.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Of all the guys to get on the wrong side of,
- 33:06Speaker 3: if you're a Tampa Bay Ray, probably not the smartest thing.
- 33:09Speaker 4: Yandy.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz is enormous.
- 33:13Speaker 6: He is yoked.
- 33:14Speaker 2: And he's not even a power hitter. No. I.
- 33:18Speaker 3: He is an enormous dude. He gets bigger every single year. Well,
- 33:24Speaker 3: if he really loved Tampa so much, he could go
- 33:26Speaker 3: back for like a third of the money. He could
- 33:28Speaker 3: get somewhere else, but I don't think that's going to
- 33:30Speaker 3: happen either. I think he's going to go to Boston
- 33:33Speaker 3: or the Yankees, one or the other. The Yankees desperately
- 33:36Speaker 3: need a right-handed hitter.
- 33:37Speaker 6: And they like him, too.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and Boston, it.
- 33:39Speaker 3: Seems like a pretty good ballpark for his skills. So
- 33:43Speaker 3: it might be a little bit of an adventure him
- 33:45Speaker 3: playing the Green Monster as defensively.
- 33:47Speaker 7: Yeah, but don't they hide left fielders there that aren't
- 33:50Speaker 7: good defensively?
- 33:52Speaker 6: Sometimes. I know they do that in Houston with the
- 33:57Speaker 6: Crawford boxes.
- 33:57Speaker 3: Well, sometimes if you're scared of the arm. You have
- 34:02Speaker 3: an advantage if you put somebody that really plays that
- 34:05Speaker 3: wall well.
- 34:05Speaker 5: It's true.
- 34:06Speaker 3: Like Carl Yastrzemski once upon a time. You have an
- 34:09Speaker 3: advantage because no one else is going to play it,
- 34:11Speaker 3: should play it as well as your guy plays it.
- 34:13Speaker 6: It's like a different than any other left field.
- 34:15Speaker 2: All right, kid, what's your one last thing?
- 34:17Speaker 6: Dylan Brooks. You got to love this guy.
- 34:19Speaker 4: I do not.
- 34:20Speaker 8: The reason why I love him is because he plays
- 34:23Speaker 8: into the villain role. I don't know if you guys
- 34:25Speaker 8: saw his latest ad that he released yesterday. It was
- 34:28Speaker 8: a shot at LeBron James because they have a feud
- 34:29Speaker 8: that's been going on for years.
- 34:31Speaker 6: One of the quotes that he has is LeBron's old.
- 34:34Speaker 6: I poke bears.
- 34:35Speaker 8: I don't respect anyone until they give me 40. So
- 34:38Speaker 8: yesterday he drops his new commercial.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:42Speaker 5: Are you tired of hearing about the greatest basketball player
- 34:45Speaker 5: of all time? Where he goes? What team is he
- 34:48Speaker 5: playing for this season? What ridiculous new product he's endorsing?
- 34:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:52Speaker 5: Then you need the King Blocker 9000 advanced breakthrough technology
- 34:57Speaker 5: that will mute any mention of or as many nicknames
- 35:00Speaker 5: like King's LB, The Chosen, Blocked. Sound good? It sure does.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Visit the URL today. That is pretty funny. That's good.
- 35:13Speaker 8: I just retweeted it. You can check it out because
- 35:15Speaker 8: there's a video with it, and it's really well done.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Was he blocking out him saying it?
- 35:19Speaker 4: Yes.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Okay.
- 35:20Speaker 6: So it's an example of what it does.
- 35:22Speaker 4: I see.
- 35:22Speaker 6: You got it.
- 35:23Speaker 8: The visual would have done it better, but we understood it.
- 35:25Speaker 8: So that's my one last thing. Dylan Brooks diving into
- 35:27Speaker 8: the villain role and just hating LeBron, and he loves
- 35:30Speaker 8: doing it.
- 35:31Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to use this as my– I
- 35:32Speaker 3: wasn't going to do this, but I'm going to use
- 35:34Speaker 3: this as my one last thing. Speaking of the villain role,
- 35:37Speaker 3: I told Anders off the air– We're not that far
- 35:41Speaker 3: away from Wimby being a villain in the NBA.
- 35:45Speaker 6: Ooh, I like that.
- 35:46Speaker 2: I think he's going to end up being a heel.
- 35:48Speaker 6: Oh, my goodness.
- 35:49Speaker 3: I think he's already had it with American lifestyle and
- 35:53Speaker 3: American reporters. I think he likes his teammates. I think
- 35:59Speaker 3: he loves his teammates, loves his coach, loves his organization,
- 36:02Speaker 3: loves playing basketball. But I think the whole NBA, American
- 36:08Speaker 3: NBA thing, I think he started to sort of unravel
- 36:12Speaker 3: at the end of last year. He was a jerk
- 36:14Speaker 3: to people at the end of last year, to the
- 36:17Speaker 3: point where Spencer Hawes and I ended up having a conversation.
- 36:20Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, he's going to have to chill on that.
- 36:24Speaker 3: And he started this year. You'd think he'd be refreshed,
- 36:26Speaker 3: and he already looks pissed off. Did he not look
- 36:29Speaker 3: pissed off to you last night? Now it might have
- 36:31Speaker 3: had something to do that he couldn't score.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Maybe. Maybe.
- 36:34Speaker 3: But he already looked like he had an edge to
- 36:36Speaker 3: him going into this season. Dude, the hype's only going
- 36:39Speaker 3: to get larger around you. The attention is, you're 7'13.
- 36:44Speaker 3: People are going to pay attention to you. And if
- 36:47Speaker 3: you establish yourself as the best basketball player in the world,
- 36:51Speaker 3: that comes with attention too. And not everybody's going to
- 36:54Speaker 3: ask you smart questions. You have to grow up a
- 36:57Speaker 3: little bit. Otherwise, I think he could be headed down
- 37:00Speaker 3: the villain route.
- 37:01Speaker 6: Totally agree.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I wonder if NBA's ever had, like, LeBron, I guess.
- 37:04Speaker 2: He's been a villain in a lot of people's lives.
- 37:06Speaker 6: But it took him a while to get to that point.
- 37:08Speaker 6: He was just in Miami. When he did that special,
- 37:10Speaker 6: that's when he became a villain. He embraced it. And
- 37:12Speaker 6: then everybody loved him again.
- 37:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:14Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for us. Thanks for being
- 37:16Speaker 2: with us. We appreciate it. Greg and Jess next. Sports
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