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- 0:03When I grow up, I always see God as a very
- 0:07far distant God that I was so afraid of Him.
- 0:12And I was trying to please Him with all my good works and staying pure according to the teaching that I received
- 0:18and growing as a Shiite Muslim, devoted Shiite Muslim.
- 0:23And I was trying to just perform the five days, five times prayers per day
- 0:28and toward Kaaba, toward Mecca and always doing good things
- 0:34but I didn't have any assurance where I was heading after this life.
- 0:39And then because of the wars and because of the situation in the country
- 0:44where I was born and the revolution and seeing all these young dead people
- 0:49I started to question God, I began to question God
- 0:54are you there while all these things are happening?
- 0:58And always my mom says, be quiet, you're going to go to hell.
- 1:02You don't question God.
- 1:03And so I was searching, I was reading the Quran.
- 1:07And what was really astonishing to me that I learned,
- 1:13he had, Allah has 99 names, that He is mighty, that He is this and He is that.
- 1:19And none of the names was love.
- 1:20So there were too many contradictions, too many questions
- 1:24that I was searching for the real truth
- 1:27and the greatest fear I have
- 1:30if I deny this God and Allah
- 1:32because he's going to punish me
- 1:34I'm going to heading to hell
- 1:35even if I didn't have this assurance
- 1:38where after this life
- 1:39I am going
- 1:40because I was asking
- 1:42they said well
- 1:42Inshallah we go to heaven
- 1:44Inshallah means
- 1:45God willing
- 1:46we go to heaven
- 1:47but again
- 1:49so hard to understand
- 1:51And it really is disappointing to know you live this life without living it.
- 1:59So I went to university and I saw a flyer on the board that they were showing Jesus movie.
- 2:06So out of curiosity, I said, well, he was a good prophet.
- 2:09He had so many miracles.
- 2:12The prophet that I was believing at that time didn't commit any miracle, didn't have any miracle.
- 2:17So I want to know, I want to watch the movie, what I'm going to lose.
- 2:20out of curiosity I went and for the first time in my life
- 2:25I met some Muslim who converted to Christianity
- 2:27and they were medical doctors some of them
- 2:31they were former haji that they you know went to Mecca
- 2:34so I was saying to myself I was asking questions
- 2:37what happened what led them to come to know Jesus
- 2:42not as just a great prophet but as the son of God
- 2:45as the savior of the world
- 2:47and after watching this movie I started to
- 2:50I began again questioning the teaching of Quran
- 2:54because I saw in that movie that Jesus was crucified
- 2:57Jesus went on the cross because of us sinners
- 3:01and then rose from the dead three days later
- 3:05and his tomb was empty
- 3:07this is not what I learned about Jesus
- 3:09and the way he was born
- 3:10he was born in Bethlehem
- 3:12which is the teaching of Quran
- 3:13was he was born in a desolated desert so there
- 3:17were so many uh you know uh contradictions so
- 3:21after them watching this movie they came to me and we started to you know talk and i started
- 3:26gradually you know to know them but began to
- 3:30argue with them i knew somehow i knew what they
- 3:33were saying is the truth but because of that
- 3:38spirit of fear that fear just grabbed hold of me
- 3:42I couldn't, you know, I couldn't accept.
- 3:45Or I can say I refused to accept the truth.
- 3:49So especially when they said all are sinners, we are all sinners,
- 3:52I said no, I didn't commit any immorality,
- 3:54I didn't commit any sexual immorality, drinking alcohol for me,
- 3:57everything is just, you know, outwards.
- 3:59So I started to argue with them because I was so afraid for them
- 4:03according to the teaching of Islam that I received
- 4:05and the scriptures in Quran that if we deny Islam,
- 4:10we're going to go to hell.
- 4:11So I told them, you're gonna go to hell. I tried to convert them back to Islam, but still they kept loving me unconditionally.
- 4:20That was the greatest thing that really touched my heart.
- 4:24And for the first time in my life, I saw a Bible, a New Testament.
- 4:29And according again to the teaching that I grew up with, the Bible has been tahrif or has been changed.
- 4:37And because of that curiosity to see what part of Bible has been tahrifed or changed,
- 4:43I started to read and study the Bible.
- 4:46And at my total amazement, not only I didn't see any contradictions or any changes,
- 4:53I was just seeing affirmation of God's love from the beginning to the last chapter.
- 4:59One night, I was on my knees and I said,
- 5:04God, I don't really want to go to hell.
- 5:09If you are really the one these friends are telling me,
- 5:13please reveal yourself.
- 5:15Please show yourself to me.
- 5:18And out of God's great mercy and grace,
- 5:22he appeared to me in a dream.
- 5:25That night, in that dream that I had,
- 5:28three men in white robes with Roman sandals
- 5:32in a shape of a triangle, stood in front of me in that frame.
- 5:37I was not able to see the faces of two of them,
- 5:40but the one who was standing in front
- 5:44of me just answered my question.
- 5:48The question with which I went to bed.
- 5:51And he said, why you have so much doubt in me?
- 5:56Just believe in me.
- 5:57I woke up, I never had any encounter so closely with God
- 6:02I never had this personal conversation with God
- 6:06Because to me Allah was so far away
- 6:08So sitting in high places that I cannot reach
- 6:12So that's why I go through imams or intermediaries
- 6:15To ask even for a simple prayer
- 6:18And when I woke up for the first time
- 6:21That peace came upon me
- 6:24Because I know all of us have such a, you know,
- 6:28deep down inside of us there is some void.
- 6:32There is something empty inside of us that just our creator can fill this void.
- 6:38So I got up and I'm driving to the college.
- 6:42I'm coming back and forth.
- 6:44And this dream was like a film, like a movie in front of my eyes.
- 6:49So I called that lady, the former haji.
- 6:51I said, I had this dream and she said, well, we cannot see the face of the Father or the Holy Spirit.
- 6:58You know, we was just by faith as Jesus asked.
- 7:02If you confess that you are a sinner and give
- 7:05your life to me and believe that I came for you,
- 7:09that I am God and I died on the cross for you and for your sins,
- 7:16I became thing for you and shed my blood to cleanse you from all these impurities
- 7:22and rose again three days later you are
- 7:26saved so just by faith even if still I
- 7:30was questioning about you know if Jesus is God son of God because I have the
- 7:34physical concept of Jesus being Son of God in my mind I had this prayer just by
- 7:41faith but it's by this friend and at the same time at the end of prayer I was
- 7:46feeling like I am a feather in the air I felt so light it was like heavy
- 7:52baggages heavy heaviness was just coming
- 7:56out of me and one time I read the Bible
- 8:01again the first chapter of the book of John before I came to know the Lord and
- 8:06confessing as my Lord and Savior I read the Bible I didn't have the Spirit of
- 8:11God unless the Holy Spirit revealed that Jesus is Lord there is no other way so I
- 8:16read the first verse in the beginning was God in the beginning I'm sorry in
- 8:22the beginning was Ward and the word was with God and the word was God himself
- 8:27and a voice clearly as I'm talking and hearing my voice right now inside of me
- 8:33said Luke verse 14 and I look at verse
- 8:3714 and says and the word became flesh
- 8:40and dwell among us and immediately that scale came off of my eyes and for the
- 8:46first time in my life confessed with all my being that Jesus is Lord and there is
- 8:53no other name given on this on this
- 8:57earth under this sky that we can get
- 9:01saved except by Jesus Jesus Christ the
- 9:05Savior of me of you and the world I would
- 9:10tell to my brothers and sisters that the arms of God who created us and who was
- 9:17we so almighty and powerful that even he can put without changing his nature he
- 9:24can become flesh and say here I am I accept you
- 9:28the way you are you don't have to please me with
- 9:32all this good work that you are not sure even from uh for your eternity when are you where
- 9:37are you heading I accept you the way you are and
- 9:41my arms are so large extended toward you to receive
- 9:45you with love and i can saturate you with peace
- 9:50and with joy and with love that even if no
- 9:54circumstances in life can take away that peace
- 9:58and joy and love because i am the giver of life
- 10:03i don't take life i give you life he said i knew
- 10:06you by name when you were you are in the womb of
- 10:10your mother i mean we are talking about a great
- 10:14and awesome god who can feel our heart he knows
- 10:18deep down what's going on in our hearts he's the only way he doesn't say i am just one of the ways
- 10:25or i am just a prophet he said i am the way the
- 10:29truth and the life he is everything that's why
- 10:34said then you shall know the truth the truth knowing that truth knowing Jesus
- 10:40shall set you free I born in strong
- 10:46Muslim family which is Shia I grew up in
- 10:52my faith which is transferred from my grandma to my grandfather to my dad and
- 10:59transferred to me I remember years ago
- 11:03when I was as a child my grandmother
- 11:07were encouraging me to do namaz and to
- 11:11the Islam traditional I tried to follow
- 11:15this the faith they keep telling me
- 11:19since I was young I remember even I was
- 11:23child like 12 years 12 years old my grandma said you have to if you want to
- 11:30go to heaven you have to follow what we are teaching you and my grandfather from
- 11:35my dad's side he had a mosque you know so the bag was 12 years old I lost my
- 11:42dad and my sister in car accident and I was living with them for two years at
- 11:48and I was doing fasting I was doing all
- 11:52the stuff they were telling me I was
- 11:55thinking Allah which is the God in Islam he's someone in heaven okay
- 12:01he never he never have any relationship
- 12:05with me when I need him I cry out you
- 12:08know to help me you know I was empty no I was in bad situation he was not near
- 12:14to me I thought maybe you know
- 12:18I'm in this big world there is no
- 12:23hope for me I really hate people
- 12:28that time I was full of anger I said people didn't don't like me God doesn't care about me
- 12:35you know religion doesn't help me so why I
- 12:38have to leave so one day I decided to suicide
- 12:42I was crying that night I remember I drank also I said God why I'm not dying
- 12:48you know I don't want to live anymore why I have to leave and after that was
- 12:54one day I remember my friend whose name is Hassan he introduced me to some
- 13:00Christian organization one day he told me there is a church in this street do
- 13:07you want to go and visit that church I said no I don't want to go to the church
- 13:10and he was Muslim too I don't want to go to the church he said no no let's go
- 13:16there so we went there anyway it was the middle of the service and preacher was
- 13:21preaching about the message of gospel I
- 13:24remember he was saying God is our Father
- 13:28and that was the place I feel empty in my heart I thought the emptiness in my
- 13:34heart is because I don't have my dad but it was not true actually it was part of
- 13:40it but he was teaching he was preaching you know god is our father and then uh that his message
- 13:47was speaking to my heart i feel you know is some related relationship between his world and my
- 13:54heart he was he was telling in his message you
- 13:57know how god loves people even though they are
- 14:01sinner even though they are uh they're not walking
- 14:04with him or every day but he was telling me about
- 14:08his passion God God has you know he's created as a father and he loves us you
- 14:15know doesn't matter who we are from
- 14:18which generation from which religion if
- 14:22we are Muslim if we are Christian he is his upper father you know so when the
- 14:29service ended the gentleman came he said if you want to come and give your heart
- 14:35to Jesus if I was going to do that really but I was afraid of my friend
- 14:41Hassan was there I said no you know he's gonna see you know I'm gonna I became
- 14:46Christian he was gonna he's gonna tell all the neighbors friends you know yeah
- 14:51and now time became Christian and sent so it was very you know it was war in
- 14:57inside of me okay some voice said go to the altar to the front and give your
- 15:03heart and another voice said no no don't do that you know it was you know my
- 15:08flesh was telling me don't do that so I did the gentleman came again he said you
- 15:14know this preacher is gonna preach entire week if you want to come welcome
- 15:18tomorrow also so yes I'm gonna go to the church again but without Hassan you know
- 15:23I don't want to go with Hassan but after that service I went home I couldn't
- 15:28sleep that night the world of that preacher were talking to me all night
- 15:34you know it was really touched my heart
- 15:39so then tomorrow tomorrow after work I
- 15:43went to the church I was first person in
- 15:47the sanctuary sanctuary and then I feel
- 15:51very different smell I never feel in the
- 15:56past you know and then suddenly people
- 16:00are starting to come to the church one by one and then people start to singing
- 16:06and worship the Lord in the past I was going to them to the mosque you know I
- 16:12never seen people thinking for the Lord joining because they have something their
- 16:17life what I was I saw it was people crying to Allah they were in sorrow you
- 16:23know because what happened to their Imam or to their their prophets but I never
- 16:29seen someone is dancing singing for the Lord and one thing it was interesting to
- 16:35me also it was they were singing to Jesus at one song I always remember it
- 16:40touched my heart was you know if you're tired if you don't know about your
- 16:45future tell it to Jesus tell it to Jesus if you are sinner tell it to Jesus you
- 16:50know so did the songs were taught you know talking to my life to my heart you
- 16:56know it was something I never experienced before and the preacher came
- 17:03the same preacher had preached yesterday he came here start preaching his message
- 17:09was about how we are sinner so yesterday he said God loves us and today he said
- 17:15we are sinner I found out through his message and word of God the emptiness I
- 17:21have is not because I lost my dad my problem is because I'm sinner and that
- 17:26was the emptiness I never feel I never do anything about it in the past
- 17:32I tried to be good Muslim but that was not I needed what I needed is to have I
- 17:39have to repent because I'm sinner I remember I don't know what happened
- 17:44suddenly but before the pastor altar call I was in the front I was crying for
- 17:5015 minutes later on people told me you know you were crying out you know
- 17:54shouting God I need you God Jesus if you're alive come to my heart and change
- 18:00me I'm sinner I don't know what to do you are the only person you can help me
- 18:04so at same time some gentleman was looking me you know he was looking me
- 18:11I'm crying for 15 minutes he came he said a young man do you need help I said yes please help me
- 18:16I need help you know I don't know what to do you know and he came and he he guided me to pray and
- 18:23you know give my heart to the Lord after I gave
- 18:27my heart to the Lord to Jesus you know I stood up
- 18:31I feel I'm just again I can say I'm born again you know I didn't know anything about born again
- 18:37But I feel I'm born, I'm new
- 18:39You know, I'm fresh
- 18:40So I was going home
- 18:42The way I was going home
- 18:43I was dancing and shouting
- 18:46Tell it to Jesus, tell it to Jesus
- 18:48The song, you know
- 18:49In the very first beginning of the worship
- 18:54I heard, you know
- 18:55Tell it to Jesus, tell it to Jesus
- 18:56After I went home
- 18:57My mom said
- 18:58Something is wrong with you
- 19:00What happened?
- 19:01You're crazy, you're different
- 19:02Did you receive some money?
- 19:04I said no, no, no
- 19:05I found Jesus
- 19:06you know jesus came to my life she said no you're crazy you know what you're talking jesus is a
- 19:12prophet he's in the heaven you know i said no no i changed i'm not same person and after that
- 19:18every after after that night i feel you know
- 19:22a new beginning in my life so everything was
- 19:26converted, everything was
- 19:30transformed, you know
- 19:31I was a bad person
- 19:34I was sinner, I was
- 19:35empty, now I became
- 19:37you know, a happy person
- 19:40no more
- 19:42anger in my life, you know
- 19:43and
- 19:44I start to love people, you know
- 19:47in the past I never loved people
- 19:49I love to fight with them, I love to be
- 19:51to be against
- 19:53of the people's teaching or
- 19:55ideas but now I love more people from
- 20:02that night I feel a new person I never
- 20:09have relationship with Allah I try to be closer to Allah but nothing received
- 20:15from him I didn't know Allah is different than Jehovah God in
- 20:19Christianity and then but through Jesus Jesus Christ my Lord I start to have
- 20:26relation new relationship with my creator with my Savior so every time I
- 20:32start reading his board you know the
- 20:35gospel you know every time I had my
- 20:39quiet time with the Lord I think God is near me I feel he is friend of me I
- 20:45remember when I when I got baptized the pastor said yeah brother and not that he
- 20:52lost his father but he found Heavenly
- 20:56Father so I found that I have
- 20:59someone more valuable than human person
- 21:03so I have now my father God is always
- 21:07with me and he gave me everything I
- 21:11needed you know so maybe many things is
- 21:15is still same thing because uh i live in this is earth you know in this world but
- 21:21i feel more peace i feel more joy you know so
- 21:25when i go to the church when i serve the lord
- 21:29i feel i'm walking with someone i'm talking with
- 21:33someone he's always with me the bible shows us
- 21:37and god is always looking searching for people who are searching for him
- 21:42I know many of you are watching my testimony on this program
- 21:47You're looking for the truth
- 21:49You're looking for someone to help you to know the true God
- 21:54I just want to mention today
- 21:56I just want to give you this passage
- 21:58God loves you
- 22:00God wants to be close too
- 22:02I know many of you are following something
- 22:05You never have relationship with it as I did
- 22:08But I want to tell you
- 22:10word of God said Jesus died for all of
- 22:14us to make the bridge we can go to God's
- 22:18presence to have a close relationship with him too I know many of you are
- 22:25today looking for to satisfy the Lord then you can go to heaven and spend
- 22:31eternity with the Lord Jesus provides this for us when he died on the cross of
- 22:38Calvary 2000 years ago he make the way for us so we can go through his blood
- 22:44through his crucifixion to God's presence and even though if we die today
- 22:49we go to his presence and spend eternity
- 22:53forever I know many of you trying to
- 22:57follow the Sharia the law of Islam that might give you peace in your heart I
- 23:03I know many of you for years and years and years doing that
- 23:09But still you are feeling you are far away from God
- 23:13I just want to let you know
- 23:14In Christ, you just need to give your heart to the Lord
- 23:20At the moment you are giving your heart to the Lord
- 23:22You don't have to follow the Sharia
- 23:25You just have to submit your heart
- 23:28And follow the Christ every day
- 23:30And then you will see God's peace in your life
- 23:33joy of the lord in your heart well i was um a
- 23:40young young boy and just growing up in a muslim
- 23:47home i uh you know to be a muslim you also were turkish so being turkish was also a muslim
- 23:53and for me that really meant family it
- 23:56meant fear of god it meant fear of my father
- 24:01and to me it was just a religion motivated by fear
- 24:06and also respect and honor
- 24:09which we really valued in our home.
- 24:13Allah to me was a, I can't say a father
- 24:16but a force who was really ready to hurt me
- 24:21if I didn't do the right thing.
- 24:22Who was really ready to raise his hand
- 24:25and strike me if I wasn't in line with the commandments
- 24:30or in line with what Islam would teach.
- 24:35I definitely believed in Allah,
- 24:37and most of my teaching came from my mother.
- 24:41And she was the one who had the Quran,
- 24:43and if we were caught lying,
- 24:46she would make us swear
- 24:47and put her hand on top of the Quran.
- 24:49That was all fearful for me too
- 24:51because I knew if I said the wrong thing,
- 24:54something bad was going to happen to me.
- 24:56So that was a real main part
- 24:58of what being a Muslim was in my household.
- 25:05My parents sent me to Catholic school,
- 25:07and the only reason is because they saw the corruption
- 25:11or the bad behavior that was in the public schools,
- 25:14which is still around today,
- 25:15and they did notice some kind of strict regimen
- 25:19in the Catholic schools,
- 25:21and that's where they ended up sending me,
- 25:23and that's where my first exposure to Christ was.
- 25:28I can't say it was a true Christ,
- 25:29but that's where my first exposure to Jesus was.
- 25:35And they did teach me, don't bow down to the statues,
- 25:37don't kiss the statues.
- 25:39So I was very fearful of that as a Muslim,
- 25:42so I wouldn't do that.
- 25:44And that was my first exposure, like I said, to Christ.
- 25:48And I really just developed a curiosity for Christ.
- 25:52My second exposure to Jesus
- 25:54was through two of my best friends.
- 25:56they started to share with me about Jesus and who he was
- 26:02and they were Catholics at the time
- 26:04and one of them really left an impression on me
- 26:07and he was my best friend at the time
- 26:09and he really explained to me about who Jesus was
- 26:13and the things that he did and miracles that he did
- 26:16which is also in the Quran
- 26:17being born of a virgin and all that
- 26:20a lot of similarities
- 26:21but I really believed that he had the whole story
- 26:24and he also said to me that
- 26:27if you don't receive Christ as your Savior
- 26:29just put it bluntly
- 26:30he just said you will go to hell
- 26:32and this is something I never heard of
- 26:33because I thought I was already on my way to heaven
- 26:36because of appeasing Allah in some way
- 26:39He would have mercy on me
- 26:40It wasn't security
- 26:43but the way he explained it to me
- 26:46there was security in Christ
- 26:47and my initial reaction was rage
- 26:50I really went after my best friend
- 26:53and I couldn't believe
- 26:55I was actually doing this
- 26:57we were on a construction job
- 26:58I went after him physically
- 27:00verbally first
- 27:02and he just wouldn't be quiet
- 27:04and people actually had to get between us
- 27:06to break us up
- 27:07and the rage just built up
- 27:09mainly because
- 27:11I think for me
- 27:13I was being told I was wrong
- 27:14and I think a lot of that was ingrained
- 27:16because of the religion of Islam
- 27:18it's a very aggressive religion
- 27:19and I'm not saying
- 27:21we're all aggressive or we're all aggressive as Muslims
- 27:26but we are taught to retaliate
- 27:30and that's what I did
- 27:32and not even knowing that it was so ingrained in me
- 27:34and I couldn't believe I was actually retaliating against my best friend
- 27:39and that to me says the opposition that I had
- 27:43in my heart because of Islam
- 27:45that we are taught that everybody else is the infidel
- 27:48and that was my really initial reaction.
- 27:52And because of my own issues that I had,
- 27:56because of the way I was raised
- 27:58and because of having a very strict father
- 28:00and it developed a lot of rage and anger inside of me
- 28:04and some of that was directed towards God too.
- 28:07And now I hear that I'm wrong about something
- 28:10and I was the last person that you would say I was wrong
- 28:12because of just the way I was
- 28:17and just maybe the anger that I had towards my father
- 28:23and God just directing it towards other people.
- 28:26So after me and my friend were continuously arguing,
- 28:31but I finally just said to him,
- 28:33listen, we really need to step back.
- 28:35It's getting between our friendship.
- 28:36And he agreed to do that.
- 28:37But the one thing he did say to me
- 28:39that really stuck out in my mind was,
- 28:41which I never heard before,
- 28:42because of religion. He said to me, I'm only saying this to you because I love you and
- 28:47God loves you and he doesn't want to see you go to hell. And that's what really I think
- 28:52planted a seed in my heart, something I never heard before, that the love of God is what
- 28:58really draws us to him. And that's what really made an impact on me. And later, I started
- 29:04to question even more. Now that I'm seeing the love rather than the aggression, this
- 29:10is what I was responding to.
- 29:12So, what I did was, in my mind, I started questioning myself
- 29:17who this Jesus person really is. I mean, I heard that he can, through so many people
- 29:21who, whether it's on TV or whatever,
- 29:24so many people who were saying that just Jesus can
- 29:28change your heart, he can change your life and all these other things that can help you
- 29:35to just get through life, but I think there was more than that.
- 29:39And that's what I needed.
- 29:40I mean, I grew up, because of what I went through as a child,
- 29:45depressed, angry, lost, and I knew all that,
- 29:50and all this was building up inside of me.
- 29:52And once I heard about the love of God,
- 29:55that's when things started to change in my heart.
- 29:57I was hearing the Bible through my friend,
- 29:59and he was just reciting verses,
- 30:01and he was just explaining things that Jesus said about him being the truth in the life.
- 30:07And that's really what was drawing me to him.
- 30:10I was hearing his words through his servant.
- 30:14And that's what I would say started to bring me to that point.
- 30:21I believe God's spirit was working in my heart.
- 30:24He was meeting me where I was at.
- 30:26So what I did one day, just a pure miracle, I believe,
- 30:31It's just, I got on my knees one day.
- 30:33I said, okay, this is exactly what I said.
- 30:35Jesus, if you are real and if you can really change hearts the way people say you can,
- 30:40you can really change my life, I want you to do this.
- 30:44And I'm on my knees actually asking to receive Jesus Christ.
- 30:49And I really was drawn to him so much and I couldn't resist him.
- 30:56And it wasn't because he was aggressive.
- 30:59It wasn't because he was coming after me with a holy stick ready to beat me.
- 31:04It was really, I felt his love.
- 31:05So I got on my knees and I said, okay, I'm going to do this.
- 31:08I'm going to really do this.
- 31:09I can't believe I'm doing this because I am a Muslim.
- 31:12And what's that going to mean for me?
- 31:14Does that mean I have to change my ways?
- 31:16Does that mean I have to change my family?
- 31:19Am I going to be rejected?
- 31:20But it didn't really matter to me at that point.
- 31:22Once I said the words, not only the words,
- 31:25but once I really spoke it from my heart for Jesus to come into my life,
- 31:29I knew this was the truth,
- 31:32and this is what drew me to him, was the truth.
- 31:38I was seeking for truth.
- 31:39I didn't have any truth in my life.
- 31:40I grew up with lies.
- 31:42I grew up with deception.
- 31:44And here's the one person that allowed me to come to him.
- 31:50And I really remember almost not audibly but just in my heart,
- 31:55he was just saying to me, this is the truth.
- 31:57I am the truth.
- 31:59And I knew after I said those words,
- 32:01after I came up onto my feet,
- 32:03I knew I did the right thing.
- 32:05After I received Christ, everybody was rejoicing.
- 32:08And later on, I found out that so many people
- 32:11were praying for me to receive Christ, and I did.
- 32:16This is a concept I never had.
- 32:17I never knew that people actually would pray for you like this.
- 32:23And they did.
- 32:24And because of that, I believe God drew me to Him.
- 32:26But the one thing that I remember when I start to pick up the Bible and read it,
- 32:31and my first Bible was an NIV study Bible,
- 32:34and it just really explained to you in the subtext what was really happening,
- 32:38if you can understand it.
- 32:40And it really helped me develop a relationship with Him.
- 32:44And the more I read about Jesus, the more I fell in love with Him.
- 32:49And again, this concept to me was strange,
- 32:51but Christ in my heart was answering every question that I had about God.
- 32:56Up to this point, I was known as the craziest kid on the block.
- 33:01I mean, I was just doing some things that I can't even tell you
- 33:03that were just embarrassing and brought shame to my family
- 33:08and a lot of heartache.
- 33:11And it was really for attention.
- 33:13So a lot of these things I was doing, I believe, was breaking God's heart.
- 33:17And how God changed my life, I mean, once I received Christ,
- 33:22The funny thing is, He changed my behavior.
- 33:26He changed the way I spoke to people.
- 33:27He changed the way I thought about people.
- 33:30And I can't say it was an immediate change.
- 33:32It took me about six years to really grasp the idea and the truth about what He wants from me.
- 33:38And God was slowly ingraining and giving me a new identity, which is in Christ.
- 33:44So my behavior really changed a lot.
- 33:47Like I said, the funny thing was no one taught me to stop smoking.
- 33:51No one taught me to stop using bad language.
- 33:55No one taught me to stop drinking.
- 33:56No one taught me to stop mistreating women.
- 34:00No one taught me that.
- 34:02It just happened in my heart.
- 34:03No one could teach me that.
- 34:05And to me, that was a miracle.
- 34:06I mean, here I am desiring to do the right thing.
- 34:09And it's just coming from God Himself.
- 34:12And like I said, the more I read about Jesus,
- 34:14the more I fell in love with Him
- 34:15and the more I realized how my flesh was fighting against Him.
- 34:21And he gently just started to restore me, restore my life, restore my identity in him.
- 34:27I mean, there's still a lot more changes to do.
- 34:30But the main issues were being taken care of by God.
- 34:34And it's only done by Him.
- 34:36I had nothing to do with it.
- 34:41To my Muslim friend, you know, God loves you.
- 34:44and I'm only a person
- 34:47who really was desperate
- 34:52and I'm only a person who's starving,
- 34:57who found food.
- 34:58And here I am to share that food with you.
- 35:02And that's it.
- 35:03That's all I can really say about that
- 35:05is Jesus really gave my starving spirit
- 35:09that bread which He is.
- 35:11He even called Himself the bread of life
- 35:13I feed on him now. It's not this earthly kind of feeding you might want to think,
- 35:17but it's a spiritual kind of feeding because he's our lifeline.
- 35:22And I'm just here to tell you that he loves you.
- 35:25He loves you and he loves me and he loves us all just the same.
- 35:30I found treasure, treasure worth more than gold and rubies and whatever you can imagine.
- 35:37I'm here to give it to you for free because he gave it to me for free.
- 35:43It's something that we can never do to earn.
- 35:48God loves us no matter what.
- 35:50We can't earn His love.
- 35:51He loves us regardless of who we are and what we've done against Him.
- 35:55I know there's a verse in the Bible that says,
- 35:57because He lives, I will also live.
- 35:59And that was such an impact when I read that.
- 36:02I'm going to live someday again.
- 36:04This body will deteriorate.
- 36:05This body will die.
- 36:06And if you're in a place where you're not sure,
- 36:10If you're in a place where you don't know where you're going to go when you die,
- 36:15don't undermine what Jesus Christ can do for you.
- 36:19Don't just throw it aside and say, well, he can't because of your own selfish beliefs.
- 36:24Believe it because he said it.
- 36:26And he could change your life and he could change your heart if you allow him to.
- 36:31And you could know eternal salvation through Jesus Christ.
- 36:35And it's a step of faith.
- 36:37and it's not faith in your faith
- 36:39it's faith in him, the one true God
- 36:41I was born
- 36:45in Pakistan
- 36:49and I grew up as a Muslim
- 36:51and all my life I was taught to follow Allah
- 36:54and Muhammad is the final prophet of Islam
- 36:58and I was taught that
- 37:00and I believed that there was four books
- 37:03that came from heaven
- 37:04but the final book was the Quran
- 37:06and it was the final revelation
- 37:08and so I used to go to study the Quran after school
- 37:12for three to four hours at a time every single day
- 37:15because my family wanted me to be ingrained
- 37:18with the truth of what I believed.
- 37:21And the one thing I remember as a Muslim was that
- 37:24I was always opposed or brought up to oppose
- 37:27the deity of who Jesus is.
- 37:30The Quran talked about Jesus,
- 37:32but we could never call him the son of God.
- 37:35That was blasphemy.
- 37:37In fact, that was the greatest sin
- 37:38that any Muslim could ever commit
- 37:40Was to confess that Jesus is the son of God
- 37:43And so that's the mindset I was brought up with
- 37:46And I was brought up with
- 37:47I wanted to be a servant of God
- 37:49I wanted to obey God
- 37:51I wanted to be obedient
- 37:53I wanted his will for my life
- 37:55I wanted to just obey him
- 37:58And submit to Allah
- 38:00There's a hope in every Muslim heart
- 38:04And it was in mind that I would go to heaven
- 38:07But I thought I could only go to heaven through good works
- 38:10and so I would hope that God would one day have mercy on me
- 38:15but there was no real guarantee
- 38:17and one thing I remember even as a young child
- 38:19sitting on a couch in my living room
- 38:22I was probably 5, 6 years old
- 38:24and I remember thinking that whoever God is
- 38:26I wonder is he a good God
- 38:29how is he
- 38:30I inquired in my heart
- 38:33I didn't really have an answer at that time
- 38:35but I remember thinking thoughts like that
- 38:38I wanted to know more than what I did know about God or Allah,
- 38:44as I would say, as a Muslim.
- 38:47I wanted to have a higher education in my life and
- 38:51I left the country for the purposes of education.
- 38:55And then later I got involved in business.
- 38:58And in business some of the people I was connecting with and working with,
- 39:02many of them were Christians or they believed that Jesus was the son of God.
- 39:07Now this I did not like because as a Muslim,
- 39:10this was an open confrontation
- 39:11because I thought that they were deceived
- 39:13and that the Bible was inaccurate,
- 39:16that it was changed.
- 39:16And I remember telling them that,
- 39:18that the Bible's changed,
- 39:19it's inaccurate,
- 39:21that it's not correct
- 39:22and that you should not call Jesus as God's son
- 39:26and that's blasphemy.
- 39:27And that's really where my first introduction
- 39:30to Jesus came along.
- 39:32Some people I do remember,
- 39:35they had a peace about them
- 39:36And not all of them, but some of them had some kind of peace
- 39:40I could tell that they had
- 39:42And I was a little curious about that
- 39:45But not enough to investigate
- 39:48I was more interested in saying
- 39:50Let's bring these Christians and help them see the Quran
- 39:56Let them accept Islam and submit to Allah
- 39:59That is what I was trying to do
- 40:01First I was invited to a church
- 40:06and I said no, I don't go to church
- 40:08I'm a Muslim
- 40:09don't invite me to church
- 40:10but you can come to a mosque if you like
- 40:13I said to them
- 40:13so then later they invited me
- 40:15some Christian businessmen
- 40:17invited me to a business conference
- 40:19where there was successful people in business
- 40:22training on how to be successful in business
- 40:25so I knew that I wanted education
- 40:28I wanted to learn
- 40:29how to be successful
- 40:30that's why I was getting more education
- 40:32and so I went to this conference
- 40:34And there was probably 20,000 people in this auditorium
- 40:37And on the Sunday morning
- 40:39They stopped the conference
- 40:40And they had this service
- 40:41They called it a Christian service
- 40:44Which I thought that only occurred in church or a building
- 40:47So here was something that they were going to do
- 40:50That I didn't want to go to
- 40:51But someone said to me
- 40:53If you come to this service
- 40:55You can have a front row seat
- 40:57And as you sit in the front row
- 41:00After this conference is over
- 41:01You can keep your seat
- 41:03for the remainder of this business conference.
- 41:06So that was a good idea because I was going to be there.
- 41:08Secondly, they said whoever is going to be speaking is a businessman.
- 41:13He's not a priest, he's not some kind of religious leader
- 41:18he's just a businessman.
- 41:20And I thought as a Muslim, well how bad can that be
- 41:22to hear a businessman.
- 41:24So I went there to get my front row seat
- 41:26and this man got up
- 41:27And the first thing he said was, Jesus is the Son of God.
- 41:33Now that offended me as a Muslim. I got angry.
- 41:36And then he said, there's no name given by which you must be saved except the name of Jesus.
- 41:43And he said, if you reject Jesus, he goes, you will go to hell.
- 41:47And I did not like that at all.
- 41:49But he said one other thing. He said, but if you receive Jesus,
- 41:53then you are guaranteed to go to heaven
- 41:56and spend eternity with Jesus
- 41:59now that made me mad too
- 42:00and that was the beginning of me hearing about Jesus
- 42:04and how they were very bold about him
- 42:07there was a boldness about this Jesus
- 42:10but I thought the man speaking was deceived
- 42:12and I said it's my responsibility as a Muslim
- 42:15to go speak to him and correct him
- 42:18because I thought he was wrong
- 42:19and so he did this invitation for people out of the audience to come to the front by the stage
- 42:26and basically he was inviting them to come to Jesus
- 42:30I didn't quite understand but when he gave the invitation
- 42:32I got up and I ran and I was one of the first people there
- 42:36because I thought I could talk to the man now
- 42:38but by the time I got to the front of this stage
- 42:41I noticed hundreds of people started to come out of the aisles
- 42:44and they began to run to the front
- 42:46and so when I got to the front
- 42:48I got stuck to the front of the stage
- 42:50and all these people were there
- 42:51it was literally about 3-5 thousand people
- 42:54and I didn't know what to do
- 42:56I thought maybe I should leave
- 42:57but I couldn't, I got stuck
- 42:58and I remember the businessman
- 43:00he had tears in his eyes
- 43:02and he was looking at everybody
- 43:04and he said I want you to repeat this prayer after me
- 43:07and he started his prayer by saying
- 43:09Jesus is
- 43:10the son of God
- 43:13and I said no, I can't say that
- 43:15I'm a Muslim. So I said, my Kalma. I said, if they're going to say something like that,
- 43:19I'm going to say my Kalma, which is the statement of faith of a Muslim. And I said that and
- 43:24I left there and two of my Christian friends came to me and they wanted to give me a hug
- 43:29and they said, congratulations. And I said, what for? And they said, well, you went to
- 43:35receive and become a Christian. I said, no, don't you ever call me a Christian. I'm a
- 43:40Muslim. And I remember saying to them,
- 43:43I said the mountains can shake, the earth can move but there's
- 43:47nothing on this earth that can make me say that Jesus is the son of God.
- 43:55I went to another conference
- 43:58and again they reserved me a front row seat for that Sunday morning. So I went there and I realized
- 44:05that they gave invitation after talking about Jesus being the way, the truth and the life. They
- 44:11gave invitation to invite people to the front again, and I went to the front again.
- 44:15But that's when I realized that they were trying to win people
- 44:18to Jesus through business. And I made a decision as a Muslim
- 44:23that I would do the same thing, and I would hold meetings and preach
- 44:27from the Quran and give open invitation to Christians
- 44:30and other people to come to Islam, accept Muhammad as the
- 44:35final prophet, and to embrace Islam and submit to Allah.
- 44:38that's what I wanted to do as a Muslim
- 44:40but I had to learn how they were doing it
- 44:43because in business I was taught
- 44:45learn from them who are already successful
- 44:47but I noticed they had a lot of good results
- 44:50and I wanted to learn what they were doing
- 44:52so I could learn
- 44:53and integrate with their community
- 44:55and be able to do it for Islam
- 44:58and that is how it all began
- 44:59but then I went back to another conference
- 45:01and I went to spy
- 45:03and to see how they do it
- 45:05and I remember they were doing
- 45:07and talking about how Jesus is the Son of God.
- 45:12How anyone who believes upon Jesus
- 45:14or even calls upon His name
- 45:17would become a son or a daughter
- 45:19or a child of God.
- 45:21They would receive the right
- 45:22to become children of God.
- 45:24I remember they were talking about that.
- 45:26Then at the end,
- 45:27this businessman asked all the people
- 45:30in the audience to stand up,
- 45:31about 20,000.
- 45:32So out of courtesy,
- 45:34I stood up as well.
- 45:35And I knew now
- 45:36that he was about to give this invitation
- 45:38to the front like they normally do
- 45:39and I knew I did not need to respond
- 45:41because now I knew what it meant
- 45:43so while I stood there
- 45:45and he began to invite people to this front
- 45:47suddenly
- 45:48the living God showed up
- 45:51and when God came
- 45:53I knew with every fiber of my being
- 45:55my very spirit
- 45:56my soul
- 45:57my very body
- 45:58that I was standing before
- 46:00the most high God
- 46:02and his presence
- 46:04stood right before me
- 46:05He went right through me, encircled me.
- 46:07I felt ambushed and I was alone with God.
- 46:11I had so many questions in my mind.
- 46:14I didn't understand what's going on.
- 46:16Why is God manifesting Himself?
- 46:19What's happening?
- 46:20I never experienced the majesty of God
- 46:23but I knew that I was standing before Him.
- 46:26And I asked Him one question
- 46:28and I said, I said,
- 46:29God, as loud as I could from my heart,
- 46:32I said, God, what are you doing here?
- 46:36I thought, these are the bad guys.
- 46:40What I meant was, why would God manifest amongst a people that are blaspheming in my thought
- 46:46by worshipping Jesus as the Son of God?
- 46:50So when I was before him, I heard a voice.
- 46:53It was an audible voice and I heard this voice say to me,
- 46:57No, these are my children.
- 47:00and he said it again
- 47:02no these are my children
- 47:04and a third time
- 47:06no these are my children
- 47:09when he said that
- 47:10it was as if a veil
- 47:13or something fell from my eyes
- 47:15now I knew
- 47:17with every fiber of my being
- 47:19that Jesus is the son of God
- 47:22it was a revelation
- 47:24I didn't just believe it
- 47:25I knew it
- 47:26and now I had to respond
- 47:28and I walked to the front
- 47:29And I confess with my mouth that Jesus is the Son of God.
- 47:34That He truly was born of a virgin.
- 47:37And that He shed His blood and He did die on a cross.
- 47:41And I confess that God raised Him from the dead the third day.
- 47:46And I remember saying, I said, Jesus, would You come into my heart?
- 47:51Would You take away my stony heart?
- 47:53Would You give me a new heart that I might love the Father as You?
- 47:59And so, in this revelation, I knew in my heart, the deepest part of me,
- 48:03the core of my being already knew by revelation that Jesus is the Son of God.
- 48:09Now, in my mind, I didn't understand that part.
- 48:12I didn't understand how could this be because my mind was trained to oppose that.
- 48:17I didn't have the understanding yet, but I had the revelation.
- 48:22After I came to the realization of who Jesus is,
- 48:25I had a hunger and a desire to know him
- 48:28And understand what I knew in my heart to be true
- 48:30So I got a hold of a Bible
- 48:32Someone gave me a Bible
- 48:34So I began to read this word
- 48:36And I would open it
- 48:38And I would read it as much as I could every day
- 48:40And then I'd put it down
- 48:41Or I might get tired or I'd go to sleep
- 48:43But one morning
- 48:45The Holy Spirit came into the place that I was
- 48:49And this river of God
- 48:51Began to flow from the top of my head
- 48:53To the soles of my feet
- 48:55for three hours and I heard a voice
- 48:57and I heard words I never heard
- 48:59all my life as a Muslim
- 49:01and this is what I heard
- 49:02I heard the father speak to me
- 49:04and he said, I love you son
- 49:06I love you son
- 49:09and he said it a third time
- 49:10I love you son
- 49:12I never heard those words as a Muslim
- 49:14and all I wanted to ever be was a servant
- 49:17but here was God saying
- 49:19son
- 49:19and when I got up from that floor about 10.30
- 49:23I picked up the Bible
- 49:25And when I opened it up and I'd look at the page,
- 49:28literally one page or passage at a time would leap off the page,
- 49:33go into my heart and explode.
- 49:35And I had understanding in my mind.
- 49:36Now I understood the very word I wanted to know,
- 49:41that I could learn more about Jesus and about God.
- 49:44And these scriptures began to be written on my heart.
- 49:46And for 36 hours, I did not put that Bible down.
- 49:50I did not eat.
- 49:52I did not drink.
- 49:52But for 36 hours, I read through the whole Bible.
- 49:56It was fast.
- 49:58I looked at the page that would jump into my heart.
- 50:00I began to have understanding.
- 50:02And I realized that the Spirit of God, who is the author of this book,
- 50:06began to write this word on the very tables of my heart.
- 50:11And that's when I really began to see a change in me.
- 50:15From that moment, I had a certain change.
- 50:18I had an understanding.
- 50:18it was as if prior to that
- 50:21I would be drowning in water
- 50:22in my new Christian life
- 50:23I didn't understand
- 50:24I'd come up for a breath
- 50:25and then I'd feel like
- 50:27I'm drowning again
- 50:27because the circumstances
- 50:29the challenges
- 50:29but then at this very moment
- 50:31when I had this revelation
- 50:33and I began to understand
- 50:34the scriptures
- 50:35I began to as if symbolically speak
- 50:37walk on the water
- 50:38and that's when life began to change
- 50:41and every person
- 50:42I came in contact with
- 50:44in my life
- 50:44they came to Jesus
- 50:46that they came to Jesus
- 50:49not right away sometimes
- 50:50sometimes two years
- 50:51sometimes three
- 50:52sometimes immediately
- 50:53but I began
- 50:54to see this life
- 50:56go and touch other people's hearts
- 50:58and they began
- 50:59to respond to Jesus
- 51:01see revelation
- 51:03is like
- 51:04life entering into the heart of man
- 51:06light
- 51:07is illumination
- 51:08of that revelation
- 51:09or life in our heart
- 51:10coming into our understanding
- 51:12coming into our mind
- 51:13that's why
- 51:14this gentleman
- 51:15by the name of John
- 51:16one spoke about Jesus and said
- 51:18that in him was life
- 51:21and he was the light of men
- 51:23see we have a life in us
- 51:25that becomes a light
- 51:27see many religions have a light
- 51:29everybody has light
- 51:31which is knowledge and information
- 51:33but light alone is not enough
- 51:35it is the life of God
- 51:36that brings a light
- 51:38and that is the difference for me
- 51:39when I was a Muslim I had light
- 51:41but the light in me was darkness
- 51:44but now I have the life of Jesus
- 51:46that is a light unto men including myself
- 51:49where I can see him as he really is
- 51:52but you know it takes the spirit of the living God
- 51:55to open our eyes
- 51:56so my Muslim brothers
- 52:01what I would say is this
- 52:03that there's a cry buried deep within their heart
- 52:06and God hears
- 52:08Ishmael who was the first person
- 52:11to ever be named before birth by God
- 52:13means God hears
- 52:15and God hears the cry of every Muslim heart.
- 52:201.5 billion Muslims are in a spiritual wilderness
- 52:24with a cry that has been buried from their father Ishmael.
- 52:29And what's happening is,
- 52:30God is about to awaken
- 52:32and answer the cry of the Muslim people
- 52:35and show them the well of living water
- 52:38that their heart thirsts for
- 52:39and allow them to see in this living water
- 52:43the face of Jesus
- 52:44so that they may know the Father who loves them
- 52:48and destined them as a people
- 52:49for in these times to come to a revelation of Jesus Christ.
- 52:55He knows the deepest desire
- 52:57and the deepest cry that even the Muslim does not know
- 53:00is buried so deep, suppressed within them.
- 53:03That is the cry that the Father wants to answer.
- 53:07And every Muslim cannot just be a servant
- 53:09but have the opportunity to know God as Father.
- 53:13So the father can impart identity, life.
- 53:17And the only way to know father, God as father.
- 53:21The only way to know God as father
- 53:26is to know Jesus whom he sent.
- 53:30Jesus did not just become the son of God when he was born of a virgin.
- 53:35Jesus was the word of God who was with God before all creation.
- 53:40he is the same word
- 53:42the Quran calls him the word
- 53:44he is that word
- 53:45and he is that word that became flesh
- 53:48he walked and dwelt among us
- 53:50this word Jesus
- 53:51is the living word
- 53:53that the Muslim needs to receive
- 53:56and this word
- 53:57is the one that can give them life
- 53:59Jesus is the word that pre-existed
- 54:02before all creation
- 54:03he is the son of God
- 54:05because he is the word
- 54:07that came out of the father
- 54:10He is the Word that proceeded with the Father.
- 54:13This is what I would say to a Muslim.
- 54:16In the beginning was the Word,
- 54:18and the Word was with God,
- 54:22and the Word was God.
- 54:23The beginning is creation.
- 54:25If we go back before creation,
- 54:28there was a time when the Word was with God.
- 54:30If we go further back,
- 54:32there was a time when the Word was in God,
- 54:35and then the Word came out of God,
- 54:37And that's why it says, and the father gave his only son so
- 54:42that we might believe and receive him and have eternal life.
- 54:48Isaiah 65, you know, the scripture says that I reveal myself to even them that are not asking of me.
- 54:56I manifest myself to them that were not consciously seeking me.
- 54:59Then the next part of the verse says, I said,
- 55:03God speaking, behold me, behold me unto a nation.
- 55:07was not called by my name. I come from the nation of Islam and I believe that God has
- 55:12a plan to reach out to people that don't even know him because he's made precedent
- 55:18to know them. And I really believe the same thing is going to happen where the Muslim
- 55:23people, my fellow brethren are going to have an encounter, a head on collision with the
- 55:29glory of Jesus Christ and they're going to have their eyes open supernaturally and
- 55:34they're going to see Jesus like they've never seen him before and the cry that is buried deep
- 55:39in every Muslim heart that has been buried for centuries will be awakened and when that cry is
- 55:44awakened, when that cry comes forth we are going to see a mass of people and we're going to hear
- 55:50a sound of Muslim people coming out of the wilderness spiritually speaking into a revelation
- 55:55of the person of Jesus and they're going to embrace the father and they're going to find
- 56:00of identity and they're going to find out who they really are and that how god always loved them
- 56:06had a plan for them and intends to reveal jesus
- 56:11today muslim culture and i specifically mentioned
- 56:17my home uh come from a home that my parents
- 56:21were practicing islam they were observant
- 56:26of of the traditions of islam uh in school i
- 56:29was identified as muslim you know i remember
- 56:33we had a course in religion as we were coming up and and obviously we were
- 56:39required to learn the ropes about Islam you know how to pray how to fast and I
- 56:46learned all of those yet my heart was not completely with it because I had a
- 56:52lot of question I always
- 56:56felt about God as distant
- 56:59I always felt that he would require a lot of things from me,
- 57:04but I don't completely understand his character.
- 57:08And that was a struggle that I had.
- 57:14I had grown totally away from the whole idea of God.
- 57:19I was just thinking like an average person,
- 57:21try to better myself,
- 57:23try to get a good job,
- 57:25get a good education and so on.
- 57:27And I thought that those are the things
- 57:28that bring peace in my life.
- 57:30I was a student in college, and I received an invitation from this Indian guy.
- 57:36He had started a ministry among international students.
- 57:40Now, I was a student, and I was poor,
- 57:42and so when he came and showed me his piece of paper,
- 57:45he said, well, there's a dinner program.
- 57:48And I said, well, good, it's a dinner, so he's free, let's go to it.
- 57:50And I told my wife then, let's go to this dinner program.
- 57:56So when we went there, I started conversing with some of these folks,
- 57:59And I found out they belonged to a Bible college nearby.
- 58:03And one of them, kind of in conversation, he asked me about what I believe.
- 58:09And then he mentioned to me something about Jesus, something about God.
- 58:16You know, that was the first time I heard someone talk about God as if he had lunch with him that day.
- 58:21You know, it was just, it was so foreign to me because I always thought about God is about the business of the universe
- 58:27and He's not busy talking to any individual.
- 58:29But he starts sharing about God in a very personal way.
- 58:35And then he mentioned the word like cross and, you know,
- 58:39the payment for the sin and so on.
- 58:42And I did not totally catch that.
- 58:44But I remember one thing very clearly first time.
- 58:47When I looked at the expression of this guy
- 58:49and he was talking about God so differently than what I've heard all my life,
- 58:54I thought that this is interesting.
- 58:56I'd like to know more.
- 58:57Even though I did not tell him, I was too proud to admit that
- 59:00there's something interesting and appealing about what he's saying.
- 59:04And I just stayed quiet.
- 59:07And I actually was not totally quiet.
- 59:10I was just kind of opposing.
- 59:11I was saying, oh, you know, I believe in God.
- 59:13I'm Muslim.
- 59:15You know, we practice, you know, worship and other stuff.
- 59:20but inside of me I felt a nudge
- 59:24that there is something this person is talking about
- 59:27that I have not experienced
- 59:29now that night we left
- 59:31and that was the first time that I heard about Jesus
- 59:34in a different way than I heard anywhere
- 59:37and I walked back to my home with my wife
- 59:40and it was interesting
- 59:42that my wife was equally touched that night
- 59:45she started changing
- 59:46she start actually feeling like you know we haven't been missing something and
- 59:53she starts reading the Bible and meeting some Christian in fact next Sunday he
- 59:59she got up and went to church and I said that's fine you want to go to church
- 1:00:04it's fine but I stayed home but there was something inside of me which I
- 1:00:08think it was a seed from God that made me just asking this question what is it
- 1:00:14in the life of this person so this thing went on my wife after two three months of
- 1:00:21fellowshipping with these individuals she committed her life to Christ now
- 1:00:26when she committed her life to Christ our home was you have to understand it
- 1:00:31was in a situation where we had marriage problems we had a lot of issues and my
- 1:00:36wife immediately start changing it was
- 1:00:39very clear to me that this wasn't just
- 1:00:43to set a belief that that make her know more than I do but it was something that
- 1:00:49impacted her life it was just tremendous you know what happened as I saw her
- 1:00:55changing I start feeling so convicted
- 1:00:59about my sins because I was I was
- 1:01:02beginning to hear this thing that God want to deal with our sin that's what
- 1:01:06is separating us that's the reason I don't have peace because of the lack of
- 1:01:11forgiveness in my life. I did not have
- 1:01:13forgiveness. I didn't understand
- 1:01:15it, but I understood later on
- 1:01:17as I was talking to these individuals,
- 1:01:19that same gentleman and some others,
- 1:01:21that the issue
- 1:01:22that is in my life is
- 1:01:25that I do not have a relationship
- 1:01:27with God. And that relationship
- 1:01:29cannot be attained by following
- 1:01:31certain rules. You cannot just
- 1:01:33pray enough or fast enough
- 1:01:35to get closer. In fact,
- 1:01:37I tried it when my wife became Christian.
- 1:01:39And I said, I'm just going to double my effort.
- 1:01:42I know this is not months of fasting, but I'm going to go with fast.
- 1:01:45And I know it's not supposed to be this much prayer, but I'm going to do more.
- 1:01:50Maybe doing more good things is going to
- 1:01:54settle the turmoil that is in my heart.
- 1:01:58And you know what?
- 1:01:59I was getting worse.
- 1:02:00And it was interesting as God was changing my wife.
- 1:02:05She was just changing daily.
- 1:02:07She was more patient with me.
- 1:02:08And I was getting worse in a sense, and she was just showing so much patience, so much
- 1:02:15love toward me.
- 1:02:16And that was again more indication of the reality of what happened to her, and it made
- 1:02:22me even more convicted.
- 1:02:25Now as time went on, this took almost a whole
- 1:02:28month after her conversion, I would just keep
- 1:02:32going to my classes but I would just keep thinking about this.
- 1:02:35I think the Holy Spirit was nudging in my heart that,
- 1:02:39Father, you need to come.
- 1:02:40You need to submit to God and He wants to change your life.
- 1:02:45And I would hear that, but I was too proud.
- 1:02:49I was just thinking that I cannot turn my back to my culture,
- 1:02:53to my parents, to my friends.
- 1:02:56Now, I was just debating about the cost of this now
- 1:02:59because I realized that I do have a lot of friends
- 1:03:02And if I say yes, the voice of God in my
- 1:03:06heart and to accept Jesus as my Savior
- 1:03:10and Jesus, in fact, that paid my price on the calorie,
- 1:03:15then how would I answer these people?
- 1:03:18So that was part of my turmoil.
- 1:03:20I wanted it.
- 1:03:21I wanted it badly.
- 1:03:22So I was going to class and I was walking among the many students.
- 1:03:27It was just crowded, this path.
- 1:03:29There were many people walking.
- 1:03:30And I was just thinking as if I didn't know I'm walking with everybody else.
- 1:03:34I felt alone.
- 1:03:36And I was hearing the voice of Holy Spirit, I have to say.
- 1:03:41And it wasn't audible, but it was speaking to my heart.
- 1:03:44And I froze right in the middle of this crowd.
- 1:03:48It was as if that, you know, God was calling me and said,
- 1:03:51It's time. Don't wait until you go to church or something like that.
- 1:03:54I want you now.
- 1:03:55I want you to trust me.
- 1:03:57I want you to surrender your life to me.
- 1:04:00I have the future and hope
- 1:04:01and I'll tell you what
- 1:04:03I froze and I know the moment
- 1:04:06of salvation came at that
- 1:04:08time because I remember as I was
- 1:04:10walking people were looking at me
- 1:04:11I'm frozen
- 1:04:13in all this
- 1:04:16population
- 1:04:17and there's something happening in my heart
- 1:04:20and at that time I said Lord Jesus
- 1:04:22you are real
- 1:04:23I don't know how to explain this
- 1:04:25but I know if you are
- 1:04:27real to my wife and to those
- 1:04:29friends that I met, I want to invite them into my heart. And I invited him
- 1:04:33to my heart. When I came back home
- 1:04:36that day, my wife noticed there was something about my looks
- 1:04:40and she said that. She said it changed. And I told her
- 1:04:45I said, listen, something happened to me. I want you to know
- 1:04:49I'm not following you. I'm following
- 1:04:52the one you're following. I'm following Jesus. And
- 1:04:56I want you to know that I surrendered my life.
- 1:04:59And I've tried hard to get away from this, but I could not.
- 1:05:04But I told her this.
- 1:05:05I said, my heart has changed.
- 1:05:07I feel at this point that my direction is changing.
- 1:05:12There's something higher for our lives that is in place now.
- 1:05:18And God is moving us.
- 1:05:24Christ is not who I thought he was.
- 1:05:27He's so different.
- 1:05:28He's not a prophet.
- 1:05:29He's not the average person.
- 1:05:31He's not a person who comes and gives a good counsel.
- 1:05:34He's God in flesh,
- 1:05:36and he's just giving us different kind of hope
- 1:05:40and different kind of future.
- 1:05:42You see, religion was saying just keep a good appearance,
- 1:05:46but now someone else worked in my heart
- 1:05:50and gave me more worth and said,
- 1:05:53listen, you're my child,
- 1:05:54and I give you strength and power through Holy Spirit to be the best.
- 1:05:58And I'll tell you what,
- 1:05:59As a husband, I get strength from Jesus.
- 1:06:02See, God doesn't tell us to be a good person.
- 1:06:05He gives us power and enables us to be a good person.
- 1:06:09We cannot be good.
- 1:06:10There's no one who's good.
- 1:06:12And so I tell people, I say, listen,
- 1:06:16if you don't experience that born-again process,
- 1:06:21if you don't let God make you a brand new person,
- 1:06:25then you're always going to struggle
- 1:06:26because you have to rely on your own power.
- 1:06:29But God wants to change you and come and live in you and give you strength.
- 1:06:34Most religions say, I hope you make it.
- 1:06:37Jesus said, I made it and you can come on my credit.
- 1:06:41So that's another reason I tell people, trust Christ.
- 1:06:45God has found a way for us to get settled and reconciled.
- 1:06:49If you don't have peace in your life, if you don't have joy in your life,
- 1:06:53those are indications that there is something missing.
- 1:06:56don't follow a religion just because
- 1:07:00somebody wanted you to think about what
- 1:07:04you believe how it impacted your life if he's truly from God then you will have
- 1:07:09peace and joy in forgiveness and I'll tell you the only one that provide that
- 1:07:14is Jesus Christ