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Episode 7 - Claimed. Trained. Owned. - Part 1: How a Real Bull Leads a Marriage into Freedom (w/ Lindsey & Phillip) · The Bull Brotherhood

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elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, stags,
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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's
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go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank
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you for tuning in to another informative episode
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of the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the Sigma
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male himself, Brian Morgan, along with my podcast
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family, the Seductive Siren. Partner in crime,
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her husband. And her partner in crime, her husband,
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the philosopher himself, Socrates. How y 'all
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doing tonight? Excellent. How are you? What's
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good, Uncle? What's good? Outstanding. Outstanding.
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Outstanding. Also, ladies and gentlemen, we have
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two people with us tonight who are just very,
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very special to me. They hold a special place
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among us. They are truly my family, and I love
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them very much. Please welcome my baby girl and
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my girlfriend, Lindsay. Say hello. Hello. And
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her husband, Nate. And partner in crime. And
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my friend, Big Phil. What's up? Lee, how you
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doing? Doing good, baby. Doing good. Tonight,
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ladies and gentlemen, the topic of the evening
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is going to be something that's here again near
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and dear to me because I think a lot of people
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are like... Chiming in to the fact that I say
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claim, train, and own, I think they're taking
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it the wrong way. When I say claim, train, and
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own a couple, I mean that the couple is getting
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the bull experience, the whole bull experience.
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This has nothing to do with sex or the physical.
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Sex is actually something that's secondary in
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this process. A true bull is like a master of,
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he's a master of skill, respect. He knows how
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to be patient and sensitive. And what this does
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is it brings me closer to my couple, okay? And
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I'm so glad that I have Phillip and Lindsey up
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here because they can actually tell you how we
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have incorporated that saying of claim, train,
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and own to our relationship tonight. I guess
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we'll start it off, you know, as kind of like
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telling our story. What do you think about that
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Socrates and Siren? Do you want to hear that
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and see how that claim training goes into that?
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I'm very intrigued, especially by the part that
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people are confused about. So I'm excited to
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hear. Okay. Well, and ladies and gentlemen, you're
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going to hear Phillip and Lindsay just kind of
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chime in. you know, really when they want to.
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They're not like, you know, breaking in, breaking
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into what I'm saying. But I do want them, though,
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to really tell their story. And I guess I'll
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let Lindsay start it off if she wants to, because
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she's the one that reached out to me first. So
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go ahead, baby girl. Well, I figured that Philip
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would kind of tell the story about how we kind
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of jumped into the lifestyle and we started out.
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Where we've transitioned and evolved into. Go
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right ahead. Go right ahead. Well, I guess how
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we started off was, you know, we had been married
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20 years, I think, at that point. And, you know,
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we were in a lull. We were, you know, typical
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couples that, you know, you have the kids and
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you're comfortable in life. We were neglecting
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each other, I guess. in the bedroom back and
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forth and then well I don't want to like throw
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you under the bus or anything but I kind of found
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out that she was messaging a guy that she worked
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with and at the beginning you know I had all
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the different kinds of emotions of course I was
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upset and then but at the same time I always
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had this fantasy of her being with a black guy
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right so you know in all the years leading up
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to this i'd always watch like bbc porn and hot
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wife porn and things like that and i was like
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man this is pretty freaking hot so found out
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who she was talking to and we i knew him because
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we had met at a function a work function so i
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met him and his wife and she's a mexican right
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He's 6 '3", black guy, you know, muscles, former
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military. So we got along great. Just what she
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likes. Just what she likes. It fits her profile.
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Sounds like someone we know. Yeah, that's pretty
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much online with it. So she was not very technology
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savvy. So she was messaging on Facebook back
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and forth. And I had, you know, I had her log
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in. So I was just watching them message back
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and forth for like two months. So, you know,
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I say I'm upset, but then I'm not because I think
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it's pretty freaking hot. You know, they're no,
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they didn't do anything. Just flirting. And finally,
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I got to the point. I was like, OK, I got to
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confront these two to drive me nuts. So, Philip,
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can I step in and ask? Did Lindsay know that
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you were eavesdropping on the conversation? No,
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no, no. She had no clue. That was so intriguing.
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I'm like on the edge of my seat right now. Yeah,
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so, yeah, she had no idea. And there was a time,
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one time you were inside at an eye appointment,
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and I was outside in the car. So she was waiting
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in the waiting room, messaging back and forth
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with him. I'm just watching the conversation
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live, go back and forth, back and forth. So that's
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just one of the times. Other times they'd be
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messaging, I could just read right along with
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them, you know, see what they're saying. And
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he had talked about, you know, they had been
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in the lifestyle before, him and his wife, prior
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to them moving near us. So I confronted them.
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at work you know stay away from my wife the whole
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thing but then I was like okay this priest will
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freak out so we after about a month or more of
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us sitting down having serious conversations
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like every night sitting on the porch talking
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about is this something you want to pursue you
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know the lifestyle because we knew nothing about
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the lifestyle and I started looking at podcasts
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we started listening to the accidental swingers
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is one of them that's how we started getting
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more information and i said well if you want
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to do this you know who who would you want to
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try this with and she had no idea was like well
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how about i'm not gonna yeah these people i'm
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you know i'm not gonna say his name and she's
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like uh okay because i knew she was attracted
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to him but without a doubt i knew she wanted
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you know to get it on with him So I texted him
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one evening. I said, hey, meet me at this local
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bar. And he was shocked. Like, he did not expect
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a text from me. He's like, hey, meet me there.
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So we go there and we talk for like two hours,
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just the two of us. I had a lot of questions.
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Of course, I had a lot of rules, too. Like, if
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this is going to happen, this and that, you know,
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I've got to be there. Because I didn't know any
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different. I wanted to see it, too. So he's like,
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yeah, hell yeah, I'm down. Because he's wanted
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to fuck her for two years. So I called her up.
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I said, well, get your butt to the bar. And she
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was nervous as hell. You had like five drinks,
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like back to back to back. She was like, well,
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let's go. Let's go do this. Let's go to a hotel.
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And I was nervous as hell. I'll get out, you
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know, even checking at the counter. I'm like,
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Oh my God, what's this guy think? So we go into
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the room and I go sit in the chair in the corner.
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It's dark. I'm just like, I couldn't hardly contain
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my excitement. And she was fiddling around and
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delaying. So anyway, so they started making out
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and I'm sitting there just. Hard as a rock watching
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this. And he just basically took control, took
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over. And it was a pretty damn hot experience.
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He goes down on him. That was amazing. That's
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my best part about this is watching her with
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other guys and women. So just how she just loses
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herself in the moment. And so he was going at
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it with her. And she actually looked over at
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me and waved me over and we spit roasted her.
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Well, that's basically how we got started. And
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we were with, well, with him for a while because
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his wife didn't get involved for a little while.
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She had issues with that, you know, we're not
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going to get into, but I'd sneak him over. I'd
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pull the lawnmower out of the shed and put. Blank
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some things down, and I'd sneak them into the
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backyard, and they'd go out there and fuck in
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the shed while the kids were inside, and I was
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making lunches. I'd come out and watch for a
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little bit, sometimes participate. With or without
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the peanut butter? It was pretty damn hot, because
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we were just figuring out different ways to get
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together, you know, after hours. Sometimes it
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would be like midnight on a work school day.
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So eventually, she had to have it. Oh, she did,
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and she loved it. It was at least two or three
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times a week. So eventually his wife did get
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involved. That's where Lindsay had her real,
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real woman -on -woman experience. Oh, my gosh,
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she was a natural going down on his wife. From
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that point on, she couldn't get off without her.
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She could only get off with Lindsay going down
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on her. So that was... A little point of contention,
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I guess. So we were with them for, I don't know,
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three or four months, and then it just kind of
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faded off. And we really enjoyed the time we
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were having with them, and let's figure out how
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we can continue this with other people. And that's
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where the search began. So we start off on Facebook
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groups. We didn't know anything about any of
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the lifestyle websites or anything, but we met
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a guy. A couple hours away from us, you know,
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we did some interesting scenarios with him. So
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he got us involved and we hit the road running.
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Sounds like a winner. Love to hear about those
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interesting scenarios, but I guess we do that
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all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few good stories
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with him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Any questions?
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Socrates, the siren before Lindsay takes over.
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Oh, yeah. No, I got questions. Philip, why black
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men? Hello? Can you hear it? Okay, yeah. So,
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Philip, why black men? I'm not sure. I think
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it goes back to the fantasy. We had talked to
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the yearling. She's like, there's no way I could
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have that because of her family upbringing and
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all the people. It was taboo. That's the thing
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about it. It was taboo. um you know forbidden
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so i was always attracting of course you watch
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different porn and i always thought man that's
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that's freaking hot the white wife you know with
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the black guy or the gangbang i love that shit
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just watching the samaria i was like man and
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that's what it was it was just a fantasy and
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knowing that she would probably never do that
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and you know then all of a sudden this happens
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i'm like oh my god this could come true what
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made you go ahead no go ahead what's your question
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what um what made you like start eavesdropping
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on her messages was there you know if this is
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too much let me know but was there some issues
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going on or were you just you were just a curious
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person you know she would talk about people at
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work you know come home and then But then she
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would talk about him and her, she would lighten
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up and it'd be a little bit more storytelling
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than just your normal people at work. Right.
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And that's, it was like, Hmm, that's pretty interesting.
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You know? Oh, he does this. He does that. And
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I'm like, Hmm. Okay. So then I decided to look
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at her Facebook messenger and I'm like, uh -huh.
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Okay. It is funny because a few times throughout
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the conversations, he would go, hey, are you
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deleting these? She's like, oh, yeah, I'm deleting
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them. And she never did. But for me, I can honestly
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say that a black man was really, really a huge
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taboo for me because how I was raised. What I
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was told from my early adolescence all the way
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up into my early 20s was that Black men were
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bad. And my dad used to say things to me, certain
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things. Well, if you ever bring a Black man home,
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you will be disowned. Certain things. And I think
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as parents know and how they were raised in the
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era that they were raised in, try to instill
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those certain seeds into their children. oftentimes
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i think it kind of goes wrong i think it kind
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of does a spinoff into maybe certain unruly children
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like myself of oh what huh what you're telling
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me not to do this you're telling me that this
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is bad when my husband told me i was told a lot
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of things and me oh man we've been married for
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so long i've been fantasizing about this forever
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and i'm like wait a minute what that I openly
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had the opportunity. And it was like, cha -ching,
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gates open, key was unlocked. Oh, hell yeah,
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I'm jumping on this. Because I was so curious
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about it. I was always told certain things. So
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that was kind of a gateway opening for us to
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kind of move into this different type of lifestyle.
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Yes, we do swinger things, but we are now and
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have moved more so into the hot wife. situation
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that, you know, involves Brian and, you know,
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other, mostly like, I'm going to say like Splash
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and things like that, but it was kind of shunned
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in my younger years. So it was very, like I said,
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much of a taboo situation for me that I didn't,
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I didn't understand the attraction to lure, but
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I do now. I definitely do now. I bet you do.
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So what do you understand? I understand that.
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I mean, and I've always felt that people are
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people. I've always felt like, I mean, you cut
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me, you cut you, you cut anybody. We all bleed
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red. We're all the same. It doesn't matter. Crossed
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a lot of boundaries for me because that's what
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was kind of shoved down my throat a lot when
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I was in my adolescent ages in my 20s. But it
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opened the door to just make me feel free to
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let loose and be myself. And be who I actually
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I knew I was inside and just enjoy myself, enjoy
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people as a whole, like people are people. Good
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girl. Good girl. So does that does that kind
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of mean, you know, for you that you kind of felt
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like Black men were kind of like outside of that
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because your family and what their influence
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was? And then once you experience Black men completely
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all the way, right? Then you're like, oh, we're
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actually 100 percent. We're just all people.
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Is that kind of what I'm hearing you say, Lindsay?
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Oh, no, that's 100 percent exactly what I'm saying.
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I mean, the things and I love my dad. God rest
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his soul. He passed away a long time ago, but
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he was my daddy. I mean that there you cannot
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ever cross the love or the bonds between a daughter
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and a dad. I mean, never. And I can't fault.
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for what he did or said or, you know, how he
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tried to raise me. In his brain, he thought he
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was doing the right thing. But, I mean, ultimately,
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whenever, you know, I jumped and crossed over
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that bridge, I was like, holy crap, what the
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hell have I been missing? What the? Oh, my God.
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I mean, so it kind of, it was frustrating. But
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liberating at the same time, frustrating on the
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fact of that I had listened and heard to what
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my dad was trying to put into my brain and tell
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me certain things like, you know, if you ever
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bring a black man home, I will disown you or
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bizarre off the wall questions of if you were
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ever to be pregnant by a black man, would you
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come to me and ask for an abortion? I mean, it
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was very extreme in my household. And I. I remember
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whenever I first started talking to Brian, I
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told him this story and I told him, I have this
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huge attraction to Black men because of this.
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And it kind of comes back full circle. And it's
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almost even funny because I said, you know, in
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all reality, my dad would say all these things
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to me. I said, but do you know what the funniest
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crap of all this is? Literally. I said, guess
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what his parents' names were? He was like, what?
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His dad's name was fucking Leroy, and his mom's
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name was Esther. I said, holy shit, can you just
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say, like, how more of a different culture than
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ours is that? Why would you judge people like
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that? It blew me away. But it actually broke
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down so many barriers for me to be able to, like,
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kind of just be free and jump into this lifestyle.
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Good deal. Good deal. I guess you can continue.
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If Socrates and Siren, you have another question.
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Well, I have a question too, but go for it. I
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would say then, you know, once you experienced
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a Black man fully, like, what is the thing that
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stood out to you the most about their character
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and their personalities of that culture? you
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know it you know really stood out to you after
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you had that full experience and I can give you
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an example if you know unless you know I mean
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I think that I mean especially whenever if you
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know we're talking about Brian because he's just
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completely different of a person than anybody
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I've ever met so the personality the traits that
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stand out to me is being honest being true um
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standing up and being a man um making me feel
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safe all everything about When he and I are together,
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let's say if my husband's not there, he's just,
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his presence, just being there next to me makes
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me feel so comfortable in my own skin and makes
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me, like I said, all around feel very safe. Caring
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puts me up on a pedestal. Well, I asked for one
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and you gave me like 25. So go, Brian, go. I
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love it. Let me intervene right there. All right.
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What you just said, Lindsay, equates to what
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three things that I told you I was going to do,
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as well as Phillip. Respect, protect, and love.
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Correct? Yes. All right, then. So you just summed
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it all up. That's the reason I say respect, protect,
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and love. That's exactly what that means. That's
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exactly what that means. I couldn't have said
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it any better. I will shut up. You guys continue.
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Well, I mean, kind of going back to the theme
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of the podcast, the different things that we
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were going to discuss. I mean, jumping into claim
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trained and owned. I can kind of roll into that
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and talk about one of those. So, I mean, claimed.
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Right. It's a huge social interaction between
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Brian and myself and then also adding the dynamic
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of my husband also in there. I will tell you,
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this last splash that we went to, we had multiple
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couples that came up to us and asked us, how
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did you find Brian? Like, how did this happen?
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People were so in awe at our situation because
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essentially we are a throuple. And I told people,
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I said, you know, my husband signed me up for
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Telegram. And this is before we even knew what
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Splash was. He signed us up for it. We have a
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joint account. And I went into, and I'm not a
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huge talker into these different platforms. I'm
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not really a massive talker. Philip is the one
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that will talk for us if it's, you know, he's
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vetting people out or talking to people. But
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we went into, I went into Telegram and I saw
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this name, Brian Morgan. And like, wait a second,
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a real person's name? It wasn't like Dick Thunder
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55 or Nightfucker whatever. I mean, all these
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names, this is a real person. I mean, even if
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he had altered his name and his real name was
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like Brian Smith or something, the purpose was
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that caught my eye was the fact of that's a real
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person. Not somebody that's trying to be shady,
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just trying to send dick pics or, you know, get
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a bunch of pictures of me naked. This is a real
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person. And when I clicked on his photo, I was
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like, oh, oh, hello. This man is in the gym.
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Oh, great pants. Oh, God. You know, I mean, then
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it went from there. It went from there. And then
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talking, just understanding he's a real person.
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He's not trying to put on a persona. He's not
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trying to use a bunch of ridiculous, you know,
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persuasive conversation to be something he's
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not. You know, talking to tons of different guys,
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it's the typical same old crap. And Brian stood
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out from all those guys. What I noticed about
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Brian right away is that. She reminds me a lot,
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and even though he's only a few years older than
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me, he reminds me a lot of my father's generation.
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And I was raised by pimps and drug dealers. But
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these guys were sincere. Like, these generation
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of kids now, they're drug dealing mostly for
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the gram than anything else. But my parents were
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real people who tried to make a real living,
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couldn't, and did a real gangster living, and
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they were authentic about it. And so when you
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get into something authentically, whether it's
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legal or not, whatever it is, it shines through.
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And with Brian, he has been raised, he'll talk
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to you about his 80 -year -old dad who raised
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him with these principles since he was a child.
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And then his early experiences in the military,
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it's like what you're getting is a bull that
26:22
was raised to be a bull. You know what I'm saying?
26:25
Like, that's what I love about it. That's very
26:28
true. That's very true. That's very true. I'm
26:31
loving, I'm actually loving, like, just being
26:34
quiet and listening to all this. Well, I mean,
26:38
but here again, though, I always stress that
26:41
to be that true quality bull, when you deal with
26:47
a couple, the physical or sex is secondary. It
26:52
is secondary. I don't even think about it. Even
26:55
if there is a great connection, like there was
26:57
a great connection with, you know, with myself
26:59
and Lindsay. I mean, we were able to, we knew
27:03
that there was a sexual chemistry there when
27:05
we were texting back and forth. But at no time
27:07
was I thinking about that. You know what I mean?
27:10
I immediately respected her. I just wanted to,
27:15
I wanted to get into more of the psychological
27:18
and like intellectual, emotional. you know, aspects
27:22
of, like, getting to know her, as well as Phillip.
27:25
I wanted to know both of them. I knew I was going
27:28
to mesh with him when she said he's a retired
27:30
Marine. I mean, so I knew right then there was
27:34
going to be a connection, you know. So that's
27:36
what I'm trying to tell all the bulls out there.
27:39
Get to know people first and foremost, all right?
27:43
Don't call yourself a bull until you actually
27:46
really know what it is to be one. You know, and
27:50
yes, I was raised. I got my soon to be 90 year
27:54
old dad in a couple of rooms down the hall right
27:57
now. He might be listening to this, but he raised
28:01
I mean, he raised me the right way. You know,
28:03
he raised me the right way. And yes, when I call
28:05
myself a bull, you are dealing with a true bull.
28:09
But again, I'm going to be quiet. Keep going.
28:12
So going back to. being claimed and describing
28:17
what does that mean to be claimed. Having the
28:20
interaction between the three of us, completely
28:23
making a connection with three different people
28:27
can be difficult unless you find the right personalities
28:29
that are just so willing and ready to just let
28:33
things go and just be. We have intermatched the
28:37
three of us to go out and do things. I mean,
28:39
everything from we go out to dinner, we just
28:42
sit there and talk. We've done certain things
28:45
like axe throwing. We've gone to Dave and Buster's.
28:49
We've even gone to an NBA game in Charlotte around
28:52
Christmas time. And, you know, even to the extent
28:57
of we've gone to Splash the last two years together,
29:00
making a connection is a huge thing. And I think
29:04
that that is so important when it comes to claiming
29:06
because you're not only claiming a female, you're
29:09
also claiming a husband whenever you come into
29:11
this situation. See, that's a huge deal. You
29:14
have to understand, it's a package deal. And
29:17
respect is a huge factor. Brian, you've always
29:20
respected us, like above and beyond. I can remember
29:25
throwing a fit in the hotel rooms in the morning
29:29
time. He's like, yeah, you got to, look, take
29:31
it on back to the house. I'm like, no. You're
29:33
like, you are going back to the house. You're
29:35
going to be there on time. You're not going to
29:37
disrespect your family. for philip that's a huge
29:42
thing for him because he knows sorry i think
29:46
i don't mean to cut y 'all but i think we messed
29:49
that up one time and it bothered it bothered
29:52
me on the way home and i said to myself that
29:54
would never happen again it would never happen
29:57
again all right yeah if if if if um i mean when
30:01
she's when she's when it's time for her to go
30:04
home and and and be reclaimed by him I want him
30:08
to be like, okay, she was back home 15 minutes
30:12
prior to the time that Brian said. You know,
30:15
so there's absolutely no problems between he
30:18
and I. And, you know, when I come down there
30:20
again and the three of us all together at dinner,
30:22
you know, everything is okay. So that's here
30:26
again. That's that process that I'm talking about
30:29
of not, you know, disrespecting the husband any
30:34
whatsoever. Always putting, always knowing that,
30:37
you know, he's the one that can say, okay, this
30:41
is over at any given time. You know what I mean?
30:44
He can just say that that's over, and I don't
30:46
want that to happen. So, you know, again, apologies
30:50
to you, Phillip, for that one time where we messed
30:52
it up, and it'll never happen again. No, that's
30:56
okay. No, I understand. We talked about it and
30:58
worked it out. We just said, you know, whatever
31:02
it was, like, hey, be home by 11. She wasn't.
31:05
And of course, that leaves me going, OK, what?
31:08
You just blow me off. But then moving forward
31:12
into like the train section, you know, I really
31:16
feel like that the claim train and owned, they're
31:19
so connected. And sometimes the lines are blurred
31:23
a little bit as far as the training portion of
31:27
being in this relationship. I will tell you,
31:31
the train portion is never going to stop. It's
31:34
always evolving. As humans, we are always evolving
31:38
all the damn time. Because if we don't evolve,
31:41
we're stagnant. Things are boring. Some things
31:44
in what we've done, the examples I can give of
31:49
how I've been trained by Brian. So whenever we
31:52
first started talking and we started getting
31:55
into some deeper conversations, Brian would ask
31:58
me certain questions. And he would flat out say,
32:01
be honest with me. come on, give me an answer
32:04
quick, fast, quick, quick. And I was nervous.
32:07
I would hesitate. I was so wrapped up in, oh
32:12
my God, am I giving the right answer? Is this
32:14
what he wants to hear? And it would mess with
32:16
my head because I felt like, oh my God, I'm going
32:18
to be judged for the answer I'm giving. And then
32:21
once I kind of let that go, because he would
32:24
fly out and say, look, you can't be honest with
32:26
me. You're wasting my time. Like, it's a wrap.
32:30
And so. Then when I let that go and I became
32:34
just kind of unleashed in that moment and I did
32:39
it, I just started dumping whatever came to my
32:41
brain and dumped out of my mouth. And it is what
32:44
it is. I never felt judged. I never felt weird.
32:47
I always felt like my responses were my responses
32:52
and my responses were definitely accepted, which.
32:56
was a huge thing for me because I feel like that
32:58
my interactions in the past, being in the lifestyle,
33:00
I've been judged by people or I've been told,
33:03
ugh, that's stupid. That's dumb. So that was
33:07
a huge moment for me when it came to being trained.
33:10
Another thing for us was definitely I didn't
33:16
know a lot of rules when it came to bulls prior
33:19
to Brian. I didn't understand the different etiquettes,
33:24
the different things that are required. wired
33:26
um that's very much based upon respect you know
33:30
so for example like understanding that if we
33:34
are an event and all three of us were together
33:36
it's a huge thing that men are supposed to come
33:40
up and talk to philip and brett first before
33:42
they come and talk to me that's a huge thing
33:44
it's kind of like this you know evolving of me
33:48
being trained um And also, like I said before,
33:52
education, learning and understanding where Brian
33:55
has been, where he's gone, who he is, different
33:57
roles that people have been and played. The different
34:00
rules, for example, if we were at an event, because
34:05
like I said, I've never really experienced some
34:07
of these things. So understanding that if a man
34:10
were to approach us, the whole purpose was for
34:14
them to talk to Philip and also to Brian first
34:18
before they spoke to me. So that was a whole
34:21
like educational experience for me as well. I've
34:24
mentioned before being trained is a continuous
34:28
movement and evolving in our relationship. I've
34:34
constantly like started reading books, trying
34:37
to figure out different things and trying to
34:39
understand the different roles that Brian has.
34:44
participated in such as when i first met brian
34:47
i didn't know what a cuckold was i didn't know
34:49
about that scenario so i continuously have questions
34:54
i'm asking certain things um he brings a lot
34:58
of enlightenment into the different varieties
35:01
and aspects of the slice style for me another
35:04
kind of hardcore thing that was very much trained
35:09
for me was um before we went to splash um Brian
35:13
wanted me to purchase a collar. He said, hey,
35:18
he was like, I want you to purchase a collar,
35:21
something that you like, something that's comfortable
35:23
for you. But I want you to like it. I want you
35:26
to get a feel for what it is, but you're going
35:28
to purchase it. I bought it. It was sent to my
35:32
house. I was explicitly told, do not open that
35:35
package. Do not look at it. And don't you dare
35:38
touch it. Oh, man, this was new. This was completely
35:42
new for me. And so whenever we met up, I ended
35:46
up handing over the box to him, hadn't seen it
35:50
at all. It was very interesting to learn all
35:53
these different roles, to be trained into this
35:56
position, I guess, with him. Lindsay, can I go
35:59
back to the splash part? How does it feel to
36:04
have, well, first I'll ask you. Do you look at
36:07
it as layers that kind of have to you have to
36:10
overcome or do you look at it as two layers of
36:14
protection? I think that's a good question. Well,
36:17
the guys have to overcome the layers that the
36:19
guys have to overcome to get to her. That was
36:21
your ask. I just wanted to feminize that. But
36:24
I feel like it's kind of both. I mean, I feel
36:28
like it's both. I feel like that. it's definitely
36:32
a like a layer of protection for myself not and
36:35
being new because Brian knew that we were new
36:37
I don't know I mean I it's very much been a you
36:40
were new you were new but you and Phillip had
36:45
already participated in the vanilla lifestyle
36:48
before you know what I mean so coming over so
36:52
coming over to the hot wife lifestyle there yes
36:55
there were certain things that you needed to
36:57
to to know to learn And as far as Splash, nephew,
37:02
yeah, it is both. It is both. Even though Phillip
37:08
was 120 % trusting in me, you know, to find and
37:18
pick out quality guys for her to play with or
37:20
females, he knew that I was going to still come
37:24
to him or at least give him the eye. you know,
37:28
to, like, okay, is this okay? You know, so, yes,
37:32
it does go through both of us. And, yes, we are
37:37
there as, of course, two protectors. Because
37:41
not one time when she played did I go up, like,
37:45
upstairs to check on her. Phillip did, you know,
37:48
which I knew he was going to do. So, you know,
37:52
yeah, it is both. It is both. As far as the training
37:56
is concerned, Lindsey was telling you how the
38:00
mind training went. But as far as the physical,
38:06
yeah, as far as the physical, now that was something
38:09
else. Because I did, when we finally did get
38:14
together, here again, I remember what my father
38:19
said. You don't give them everything on the first
38:21
shot. All right. So I opened up Pandora's box,
38:25
but I only I only cracked it. I didn't open their
38:28
ball all the way. And that has the physical has
38:33
evolved over time. I knew that that Lindsay wanted
38:37
somebody who was very, very dominant. I have
38:41
been in that dominant world before. And to tell
38:44
you the truth, I did let her know. But I was
38:46
like, I don't want to see that version of me
38:50
at first. And I held it back and I held it back
38:55
for damn near two years until what? Monday? Until
39:00
Monday? She got a taste of it Monday. And well,
39:06
I'll let you go ahead and finish that. But that
39:10
in itself, I mean, we've gone down the road from
39:14
everything from soft and sensual to talking to,
39:18
you know, looking at each other to. you know
39:22
even exploit into a kink a kink that we both
39:26
very much enjoy that a lot of people don't maybe
39:28
fully accept or understand um but I will say
39:32
my favorite moment ever and ever is when I came
39:36
home and I'm running home to tell my husband
39:38
I'm like oh my god he did this blah blah blah
39:41
and my husband goes oh are you talking about
39:44
this I was like wait a second what was it that
39:48
you literally calling brian on the phone to be
39:51
like oh my now knowing that my husband and brian
39:55
are essentially the same damn person and they
39:59
watch the same freaking damn porn the first porn
40:02
ever in their entire lives was the same one and
40:05
they were like older women are super hot and
40:07
i'm like we're like bopping about the movie like
40:10
scene by scene knowing exactly what happened
40:12
she still hasn't seen the movie oh completely
40:15
blew me away I'm like what is going on like my
40:19
head is spinning to the next time I know that
40:23
we met in another town um and it was like the
40:27
air quotes of we're going for lunch right and
40:31
it was like I walk in and I'm a chatty Kathy
40:35
I'm like there's no conversation it's like I
40:38
was like oh god what is this I Had not seen that
40:43
side of him either. And then, like he mentioned,
40:46
like this past Monday was a completely different
40:49
side as well. Very dominant. I was like, oh,
40:52
you're pulling my hair. Like, oh, let's do this.
40:54
I think that those are some very amazing physical
40:59
aspects about this lifestyle that can be equated
41:02
to as being trained. But also, I think it kind
41:05
of also merges very closely into being owned
41:08
as well. Because when you are providing that
41:11
experience for somebody and you desire to provide
41:14
a different experience to keep it, like I mentioned
41:18
before, not stagnant, you know, change it up.
41:21
That's where it comes in and rolls into as being
41:24
owned. Because in our situation, Brian has a
41:27
desire to bring those different things to the
41:29
table, to show me something different, to show
41:31
me all of these different sides of him. He keeps
41:34
me guessing all the damn time. I know that when
41:37
we were at Splash, we did another podcast. I
41:40
know my husband threw me under the bus and made
41:44
it very clear. He said, that's the one thing
41:46
that I actually love about Brian. 100 % I love
41:49
about Brian is he's like, he keeps Lindsay guessing
41:52
every damn time. He keeps her in a state, a moment
41:56
of, she doesn't know what's going to happen next.
41:59
She's questioning things. She doesn't understand
42:02
things, but she knows that she's supposed to
42:04
be. Maybe in this space and not question or ask,
42:08
she does know her place because she goes to it,
42:10
right? I fucking love it. Rolling to the owned
42:13
portion, I mean, definitely things have moved
42:17
into a different direction. I mean, this year
42:19
at Splash, before Splash, I messaged Brian. I
42:22
said, hey, I said, wow. So moving into the owned
42:25
portion of the claimed, trained, and owned, I
42:31
will tell you that Whenever we were going to
42:36
Splash that Brian told me, he was like, well,
42:39
actually, I reached out to him and I asked him,
42:41
what outfit should I wear? He picked out all
42:44
of my outfits. He told me, I need you to wear
42:46
this on this day, this on this day. And so that
42:49
made me realize that I had a very spot close
42:55
in his heart and I needed to exemplify a certain
43:00
presence and I needed to mirror. What he saw
43:05
in himself. He picked out all of my outfits.
43:07
Also on top of that, the other portion of owned
43:10
was when he placed the collar around my neck.
43:13
He flat out told me I was not allowed to touch
43:14
it. I couldn't put it on. I couldn't take it
43:17
off. That very much said, here's this portion
43:20
of you that I own. And everyone else here at
43:24
Splash and everyone around us will know that.
43:27
And one of the best parts about it was the fact
43:29
that my husband's here and he's watching this
43:31
and he's supporting it. I can't even describe
43:36
to other people how that feels. One of the most
43:39
amazing things about being in this relationship
43:43
and having a boyfriend in this lifestyle and
43:49
that, you know, as Brian has mentioned and I've
43:53
mentioned, as Philip has mentioned, we are a
43:55
throuple. The most amazing part about all of
43:58
this is the fact of the exchange of trust between
44:01
the two of them. That's paramount. That's huge.
44:07
To have a person that's been married to me for
44:11
now 24 years to release and relinquish the trust
44:15
and give it over to somebody that he's allowed
44:18
to come into our life to say, I trust you. I
44:22
give everything up and I'm good with what you're
44:25
saying. So whenever we were a slash, the ultimate,
44:29
I think that sealed the deal that was just. like
44:32
I said, paramount was that anybody that would
44:35
come up to us and talk to us, anybody they went
44:38
to go off to play with had to have the ultimate
44:41
seal of the deal, Brian's permission. He had
44:44
the end decision. And he was the one that either
44:49
said yay or nay. That was huge. That was huge
44:52
for me. I really felt that that just kind of
44:58
completed the three of us together because that.
45:01
There was no longer a moment of, does anybody
45:03
trust anybody? Everything was just dropped down,
45:06
and it was great. That was the correlation of
45:10
the thruple, I guess. That kind of put the stamp
45:14
on it, Nephew and Siren. When we say own, it's
45:21
claim the mind, train the body, and own the soul.
45:25
That means your heart is involved now. And Splash
45:28
Mocha was just as much a correlation or baptism
45:35
for me as it was Phillip and Lindsey. Because
45:39
I went there thinking that, OK, if I can be that
45:42
ultimate boyfriend and kind of like submit myself,
45:47
you know, because usually at Splash, I am all
45:49
over the place. I'm in and out of rooms for three
45:52
or four days. But I think I played, what, two?
45:56
maybe three times, tops. I mean, that was it.
45:59
That was it. And that was all that I wanted.
46:01
It was about her. Everything was about her. When
46:04
I put that collar on her, that was saying that,
46:07
okay, my heart is yours. My heart is yours. And
46:13
I want you to come here and understand that I
46:19
want you to seek out quality, quality gentlemen
46:22
to play with. And as well as, you know, if you
46:26
found a female that you like and she did, you
46:29
know, direct to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. And
46:33
as far as like myself and myself and Phillip,
46:35
we had the utmost of respect and trust amongst
46:40
one another. I mean, you had husbands going to
46:44
him, asking him questions about, you know, our
46:47
dynamic and want to talk to him about certain
46:50
things as well as, you know, one's coming up
46:53
to me. So here again, when you talk about owning,
46:56
you're not just owning, you know, everybody thinks,
46:59
oh, wait, do you own the pussy? This is not about
47:01
that one bit. I can't stress that. I can't stress
47:06
that more. But this is about you, you, the three
47:09
of you saying we are as special to each other
47:12
as they come. We don't care about what other
47:16
people think. You know, we are a throuple. Yeah,
47:20
we are a throuple. Although I don't live there
47:22
or anything like that. But they know that they
47:25
can call on me at any time of the night and I
47:29
will jump in my car and I'll be there if they
47:31
need me. Wow. Yeah, that's just it. And that's
47:37
what I mean by, you know, owning the soul. But
47:40
that sums up plain trying and own. For the ones
47:44
who think that it meant something, you know,
47:45
kind of like derogatory or was it something where
47:48
I'm talking down, like I'm talking to a cook
47:50
or something like that? Hell no, it was Philbin,
47:51
not a cook. I just grown ass man. Don't believe
47:53
this damn. Don't believe this damn mic. Believe
47:55
me. All right. It interwoven. It's, it's hard
47:59
to explain because a lot of people cannot find
48:02
that happy medium. I mean, I will say before
48:06
we met Brian, so, but I tried to find a unicorn.
48:08
We tried to jump down that Avenue. We just couldn't,
48:12
we had experienced certain women, but when they
48:16
were brought into our dynamic, unfortunately.
48:20
Those women were, I'm not trying to sound negative,
48:24
but they were very selfish. It was all about
48:26
them, all about them. But this dynamic isn't.
48:31
This dynamic is all of us are very in tuned with
48:36
each other's needs and thoughts. And if somebody
48:40
is upset or frustrated, we reach, it's we are
48:43
together, all together as three people. So there's
48:47
a polyamorous element to this. Right, guys? True.
48:53
Very true. Very true. Very true. And this is
48:56
what, in my opinion, this is what the Bull experience
48:59
is really, this is what it really is all about.
49:03
This, I mean, summed up, this is what we have.
49:06
This is the Bull experience. And, you know, for
49:09
the guys who just want to be the typical BBC
49:13
Bull, that's fine. That is fine. But I'm telling
49:16
you right now, as you evolve, In this life, you
49:21
will find that that is going to get old quickly
49:24
and you're going to want to find your queen.
49:28
And regardless if your queen, you know, is married
49:32
or is single, you can find it. You can find that
49:37
couple and bond with them and you can have a
49:42
wonderful life in this life, you know, as we
49:45
are right now. And we just... We're just scratching
49:48
the surface. We have begun our journey. We're
49:52
just scratching the surface. So, you know, whatever
49:54
is coming to us, you know, later on in life,
49:59
I'm not afraid of. I will tell you that you referenced
50:03
a polyamorous lifestyle. The best moment of us
50:09
being all together was, I had mentioned before
50:12
that we've gone to a professional basketball
50:15
game in Charlotte. The best moment in my damn
50:18
life was walking down the street of Charlotte,
50:21
holding the hand of my husband and holding the
50:24
hand of Brian, walking into a stadium, going
50:28
through the ticket thing, going through this
50:30
and going through that. People looking at us
50:32
like, wait, what the? Hang on. Hang on. I think
50:35
I know what this is. But I'm not. Holy crap.
50:40
The eyeballs and the looks. And all I could think
50:42
inside of my head was. Y 'all bitches don't know,
50:45
but I just won the fucking lottery. I'm sure
50:47
y 'all super jealous. Right? You don't see one
50:53
woman with two men very often. It's usually,
50:57
you know, when you see it, it's a man with two
51:00
women. So you did hit the fucking lottery, girl.
51:04
I mean, holy crap. We went into a restaurant
51:08
and we ate breakfast. The waiter. A black dude.
51:14
He's looking at me and he's looking at us because
51:17
I'm so, of course, Lindsey sitting beside me
51:19
and Phillip's in front of us, you know, on the
51:21
other side. And this dude has the biggest damn
51:24
Cheshire Cat grin, shitting ass grin on his face
51:29
because he knows exactly. He had read about it,
51:34
but he had never seen it. But then he saw it
51:36
and I'm like, brother, you having a good day?
51:39
And he was like, yeah, man, your butt. He looked
51:43
at me. He was like, you're having a battle. And
51:44
then he hit me on the dog on all Herman. I knew
51:46
exactly what he meant. I knew exactly what he
51:48
meant. You know, you should have seen the looks
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that, that solidified also. I mean, really, you
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know, like I said before, wherever we're going,
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it's, it's, it's going to be a hell of a ride.
52:00
It's going to be a hell of a ride. Cause like
52:01
I said, we're just getting started. I think,
52:03
I think we, we need to do a part two because
52:08
the more I'm listening to this, No, seriously,
52:12
this goes deeper than I even imagined. And I
52:15
have, when it comes to things like this, I can
52:18
go pretty deep. So I think we should do a part
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two because I want to start getting into, you
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know, Phillip has been pretty quiet in this,
52:30
but I know he's got some great things to say
52:32
because we've heard him talk about this before.
52:35
Yeah, questions for him. And I've got questions
52:38
about, you know, just. how Lindsay felt in certain
52:42
scenarios that I saw her in. So, you know, I
52:45
think in the interest of time, maybe we can,
52:48
I don't know if we want to give any kind of closing
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statements and, and then I think we should do
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a part two guys. Yeah, we can do it. I'm off.
52:56
I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Well, I mean,
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you know, if, if this is the end for the night,
53:02
then it's, it's been a great podcast. It really
53:04
has. I have, uh, I've enjoyed, I really have
53:07
enjoyed, um, you know philip and lindsey really
53:10
didn't get a chance to to tell their whole story
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um you know how they got into the life and everything
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and then trying you know transitioning over to
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this to this world um so you know hell now now
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i got questions i got questions now this is how
53:31
we keep the people coming back for more right
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We could talk for three, four hours, but, you
53:38
know, stay tuned until next time. This is what
53:42
we want. This is what we want. This is what we
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want. So I'm assuming that everybody's content
53:46
for tonight. Yep. Yeah. We'll do a part two.
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Yep. I mean, I have a million questions. That's
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why. I knew that if I start asking one, it's
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going to end up in another. And we want to keep
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these. Within the hour, you can do a part two.
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And that's why you're Socrates. That's why you're
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Socrates. That's a squirrel jumping down that
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hole. You just keep going and going and going.
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Siren, you got anything to add? No, it's been
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great. Yeah, I got a lot of questions. And what
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we'll probably do is listen to this again, and
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then I'll probably write the questions down.
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Because I didn't want to interrupt you, but...
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Every five minutes, I had a question. So I'm
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like, who's going to let me talk? Well, then
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I guess you can cue that music, nephew, and we
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will close it out. Ladies and gentlemen, thank
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you for sitting in on another informative podcast
54:51
from the Bull Brotherhood. I would like to thank
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my family, Phillip and Lindsey. for giving their
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insight tonight, as well as my other family,
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Siren and Socrates, who are just my heart. I
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mean, this is a very, very special podcast, and
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we will do part two another time very, very soon.
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For everybody, I'm the Sigma Male himself, Brian
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Morgan. And as for the brothers in the brotherhood,
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good night. For my ladies, good morning. We'll
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see you. Bye -bye. and train the body on the
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soul. Deep connections build on trust. That's
55:39
how I go from conversations to the passion that
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we hold. This brotherhood's for men whose stories
55:45
need to be told. This brotherhood's for men whose
55:49
stories need to be told. Say it loud. Say it
55:52
loud. This is who we are. Bold, confident, and
55:57
seductive. Dominant and classy. We stand tall,
56:01
never fall. bold brotherhood luxury untaught