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This is what happens when you talk to the dead... - MrBallen · Crime and Horror

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Speaker 1: Today, I'm going to tell you three very spooky stories
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Speaker 1: One morning in the summer of eighteen seventy six, a
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Speaker 1: doctor named Lewis Allard.
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Speaker 2: Walked down the hallway up a hospital.
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Speaker 1: In Pepete, Tahiti. Tahiti is an island east of Australia.
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Speaker 1: Lewis was just about to step into his office when
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Speaker 1: he heard the hospital doors open, and he looked over
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Speaker 1: to see a few policemen walking in carrying this unconscious
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Speaker 1: man on a stretcher. Just from the looks of the
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Speaker 1: way this guy was dressed, doctor Allard could tell he
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Speaker 1: was a sailor.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of doctor Allard's patients.
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Speaker 1: Were sailors because Pepete was a port town, so if
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Speaker 1: people got sick or injured at sea and then docked
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Speaker 1: in Pepete, they would come to.
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Speaker 2: The hospital right there.
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Speaker 1: So doctor Allard walked over to the police and asked
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Speaker 1: them what was going on with the sailor, and the
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Speaker 1: officers explained that this man's friends had found him unresponsive
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Speaker 1: that morning, apparently after a very long night of drinking.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Allard nodded and then motioned for the police to
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Speaker 1: follow him and bring this guy with him, and he
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Speaker 1: led them over to an exam room where he had
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Speaker 1: them lay out the sailor on a table so that
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard could look him over. The sailor appeared to
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Speaker 1: be pretty young, he was in his twenties maybe, and
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Speaker 1: he appeared very healthy and strong. But when the doctor
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Speaker 1: checked for a pulse, there was none, and so after
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Speaker 1: checking a couple more times to make sure it wasn't
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Speaker 1: just a very weak pulse, the doctor ultimately concluded that,
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Speaker 1: you know, this sailor was not just unresponsive.
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Speaker 2: The sailor was dead, and if.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Allard had to guess, he very likely died from
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Speaker 1: alcohol poisoning, given his friend said, you know, the night before,
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Speaker 1: this guy had had a really heavy night of drinking,
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Speaker 1: and here he was so alcohol poisoning. So this hospital
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Speaker 1: had a policy for how to handle the death of
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Speaker 1: foreign sailors in Tahiti. Basically, the doctor who pronounced the
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Speaker 1: sailor dead would then arrange for them to be buried
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Speaker 1: in a public cemetery. And in fact, the hospital kept
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Speaker 1: these cheap wooden coffins in the hospital morgue for this
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Speaker 1: exact purpose. And so doctor Allard followed protocol and asked
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Speaker 1: the police to go inform the sailor's friends of his death,
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Speaker 1: and then the doctor went to the hospital's morgue to
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Speaker 1: arrange for a coffin. A few hours later, doctor Allard
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Speaker 1: was back in his office when he heard a knock
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Speaker 1: at his door.
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Speaker 2: He told whoever it was.
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Speaker 1: To come in, But when the door swung open, the
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Speaker 1: doctor was surprised that who we saw there It was
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Speaker 1: the four local grave diggers who he had called earlier
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Speaker 1: to bury that sailor who had just died. Now, generally speaking,
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard had virtually no interactions with the grave diggers
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Speaker 1: after he hired them. He would tell them to bury
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Speaker 1: the body, and they would do that and go on
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Speaker 1: their separate way, like there was no reason for the
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Speaker 1: grave diggers to come back and check in with the doctor.
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Speaker 1: But as the doctor is looking at these four guys
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what was going on here, he
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Speaker 1: quickly assessed that, you know, these guys weren't here just
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Speaker 1: to chat. They were here because they look spooped. And
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Speaker 1: before doctor Allard could ask any questions about, you know,
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Speaker 1: what was going on here, one of these grave diggers
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Speaker 1: began to speak, and in sort of a rapid and
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Speaker 1: sort of anxious tone, he said, you know, as we
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Speaker 1: were carrying the coffin over to the grave site, it
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Speaker 1: began to shake, like the person inside the coffin was alive.
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Speaker 1: And then we heard all these moaning sounds coming from
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Speaker 1: inside of this nailed shut coffin, and we all got
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Speaker 1: so panicked that we just dropped the coffin and we
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Speaker 1: ran here to tell you. Now, Ali was pretty surprised
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Speaker 1: by what he was hearing, but he's also thinking that,
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Speaker 1: you know, when he hired these four grave Diggers. They
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Speaker 1: were at a local pub and they were drinking, and
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Speaker 1: so he was thinking to himself, you know, maybe something
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Speaker 1: strange happened, you know, with this coffin, or much more likely,
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Speaker 1: these four guys are drunk, and that what they've sort
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Speaker 1: of said here is just some figment of their imagination
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Speaker 1: that they're not professional. They're just drunk guys who were
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Speaker 1: coming here screwing up my day. And so sort of annoyed,
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard's like, hey, I'm telling you that guy is dead. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this isn't a ghost scenario, but if you're so worried
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Speaker 1: about it, why don't you go get a police officer,
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Speaker 1: have them come over and inspect the coffin, you know,
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Speaker 1: make sure the person is really dead in there, and
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Speaker 1: then once they confirm that, please do your job.
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Speaker 2: And bury this guy. And so the Grave Diggers they.
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Speaker 1: Kind of, you know, look down sort of awkwardly, and
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Speaker 1: they're like, okay, you know, we'll go do that. Then
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Speaker 1: they turned and they left, and then doctor Allard got
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Speaker 1: back to work. And then a few hours later, doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard heard another knock on his door, and this time
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Speaker 1: when the door opened, it was a police officer and
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Speaker 1: it was actually the officer that the four grave diggers
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Speaker 1: had gone and found at doctor Allard's suggestion, and he
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Speaker 1: had gone over checked the coffin, and you know, the
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Speaker 1: coffin wasn't moving, it wasn't making any weird sounds, it
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Speaker 1: was sealed shut. There was nothing going on, and so
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Speaker 1: the officer eventually instructed the grave diggers, you know, to
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Speaker 1: go ahead and bury it. There's nothing going on here.
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Speaker 1: And so the grave diggers had at that point buried
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Speaker 1: the coffin and that had been that, and so the
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Speaker 1: officer was here just to tell doctor Allard that, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's all good.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's buried. We can move on.
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Speaker 1: About a week later, doctor Allard had basically forgotten about
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Speaker 1: this whole snapoo around the coffin and whatever.
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Speaker 2: Was going on with it.
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Speaker 1: He was sort of on to the next thing, and
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Speaker 1: he was out like he normally was at night, to
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Speaker 1: go for a walk. And the area that he liked
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Speaker 1: to walk in the most was actually the cemetery, not
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Speaker 1: because he had some sort of morbid obsession, but because
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Speaker 1: you know, it was often you know, vacant, there was
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Speaker 1: nobody there, and so it was a peaceful place to
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Speaker 1: go walking, and so you know, he's strolling through the
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Speaker 1: cemetery like usual, and he's not seeing anybody like usual.
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Speaker 1: But as it began to get dark, he was walking
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Speaker 1: down this one row of headstones and he looked up
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Speaker 1: ahead and he could have sworn he saw somebody standing
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Speaker 1: behind a tree with their body sort of half out
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Speaker 1: of the tree, half behind the tree, sort of half obscured.
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Speaker 2: And he stopped and.
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Speaker 1: He's looking, and the whole thing just sort of felt off,
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Speaker 1: like what is this person doing?
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Speaker 2: Is that a person? Like what's going on here?
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Speaker 1: And so he's staring and as he's looking, sure enough,
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Speaker 1: this dark silhouette steps out.
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Speaker 2: From behind this tree. And the way they stepped.
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Speaker 1: Out, it was like they stepped out turned and faced
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Speaker 1: Doctor Allard and just stood there, clearly looking right at
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard. But they're pretty far away from doctor Alert,
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Speaker 1: like there's a good distance between them. But immediately doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard felt threatened by this person or whatever it was.
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Speaker 1: He didn't even know if it was a person. He
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Speaker 1: couldn't tell if it was his mind playing tricks on
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Speaker 1: him or not. He's just staring at this thing that
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Speaker 1: looked like it was looking at him, and so doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard instinctively who's now feeling a little bit frightened, turned
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Speaker 1: and just started walking away, like he was done walking
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Speaker 1: in the cemetery for the night. And so he turns
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Speaker 1: and he starts walking. But then it's like the hairs
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Speaker 1: in the back of his neck stood up. He just
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Speaker 1: felt like this person, whoever it is, they're still watching me.
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Speaker 1: And so he stopped after just a couple of steps,
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Speaker 1: and he turned back around, and now this figure is
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Speaker 1: clearly marching directly towards doctor Allard. They're almost running, They're
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Speaker 1: walking real fast right towards doctor Allard. And so now
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard's terrified. He knows there's something happening here. Why
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Speaker 1: would this person be doing this, Like is it a person?
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Speaker 1: Like what's happening here? And so doctor Allard he turns
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Speaker 1: and starts to run, and as he's running, he hears
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Speaker 1: this horrible, high pitched scream echo across the entire cemetery.
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Speaker 1: And then he looks back one last time and he
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Speaker 1: sees the face of this figure, this person charging towards him.
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Speaker 1: And it's the same guy who died a week ago,
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Speaker 1: the same sailor that he buried, the one who presumably
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Speaker 1: was moving around in the coffin the grape diggers were
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Speaker 1: so scared of it was him, and he jumped on
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard and began throttling him. And doctor Allard's on
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Speaker 1: the ground staring.
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Speaker 2: At this ghastly face. The scream is coming out of him.
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Speaker 1: He had no idea what was going on, and then
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard just blacked out. A few minutes later, doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard came to and he sat up suddenly, and he's
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Speaker 1: looking around and there's nobody there. It's just a dark,
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Speaker 1: vacant cemetery, no sign of the dead sailor's ghost or whatever,
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Speaker 1: or whoever it was.
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Speaker 2: They're gone. And doctor Alard's just sitting there.
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Speaker 1: His heart's racing still, and he's he's telling himself like
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Speaker 1: did that even just happen?
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Speaker 2: Like it felt so real.
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Speaker 1: His neck was sore from you know, what he felt
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Speaker 1: was this guy, this thing attacking him. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, he was so sure that the face that
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Speaker 1: he had seen on this person was the dead sailor's face.
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Speaker 1: But how could that be. He's dead, he's buried, how
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Speaker 1: could that be? And so ultimately doctor Allard he got
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Speaker 1: up and he hustled back to his house, but over
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Speaker 1: the coming weeks, doctor Allard sort of spiraled into madness
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Speaker 1: because it was like, every day, all the time, he
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Speaker 1: would see out of the corner of his eye for
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Speaker 1: a second, like a glimpse of this dead sailor's ghost.
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Speaker 1: And it was always that face, that ghastly face, that
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Speaker 1: shrieking face, looking right at him, and he'd turn and
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Speaker 1: you know, the face would disappear.
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Speaker 2: But doctor Allard, he just felt.
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Speaker 1: Like he was almost being haunted, that something had happened,
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Speaker 1: you know, like that attack in the cemetery.
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Speaker 2: It it felt so real.
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Speaker 1: He felt like, now now this ghost was literally haunting him.
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Speaker 1: But he couldn't tell anyone. I mean, he's a doctor.
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Speaker 1: What's he gonna do tell people that a ghost is
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Speaker 1: haunting him.
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Speaker 2: He didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: And so what he ended up doing after several weeks
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Speaker 1: is he just began staying home and laying in bed,
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Speaker 1: basically feigning illness to avoid leaving the house.
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Speaker 2: And he would just lay there with his.
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Speaker 1: Eyes closed basically all day because as soon as he
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Speaker 1: opened his eyes, he would see.
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Speaker 2: This dead sailor's face. He really was losing his mind.
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Speaker 1: And then eventually, when doctor Allard knew he had to
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Speaker 1: stop basically staying in bed all day and go back
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Speaker 1: to the hospital and sort of function in society again,
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Speaker 1: go back to work, you know. Otherwise people were going
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Speaker 1: to start asking questions here, like what's going on with you?
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Speaker 1: And he didn't have an answer.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: When that time came and he knew it was sort
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Speaker 1: of like, okay, go back to normal or tell people
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Speaker 1: about this. Well, what doctor Alert ultimately did is he
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Speaker 1: decided to walk up to the roof of his house
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Speaker 1: and throw himself off. He literally couldn't live with what
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Speaker 1: he believed was this ghost haunting him.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven.
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Speaker 1: When the doctor's close friends found out that the doctor
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Speaker 1: had taken his own life, they immediately went to the
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Speaker 1: police and said, hey, wait a minute, like, we think
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Speaker 1: this has something to do with what he was dealing
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Speaker 1: with over the past several weeks. So the doctor, despite
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Speaker 1: not wanting to tell anybody about, you know, his haunting,
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Speaker 1: he did sort of begin to tell a.
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Speaker 2: Couple of his close friends.
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Speaker 1: Now, he was sort of subtle about it, but he
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Speaker 1: began telling people that He's like, yeah, I just I
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Speaker 1: keep seeing that.
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Speaker 2: Dead sailor's face everywhere I go. I just keep seeing him.
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Speaker 1: Now, he didn't highlight the fact that he was basically
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Speaker 1: losing his mind over it and thought it was literally
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Speaker 1: a ghost. But a couple of his close friends were
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Speaker 1: aware that it almost seemed like, you know, doctor Allard
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Speaker 1: was effectively having a mental breakdown over this dead sailor,
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Speaker 1: and they did sort of connect that doctor Allard sort
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Speaker 1: of felt haunted by this dead sailor, and so said
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Speaker 1: close friends ultimately went to the police and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: I know this is a stretch, but the doctor kind
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Speaker 1: of thought he was being haunted by this dead sailor
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Speaker 1: before he died. We think that has to do with
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Speaker 1: why he took his own life. And sort of amazingly,
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Speaker 1: the police, the way they responded to this was Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're going to look into this. We're gonna investigate the haunting,
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Speaker 1: so to speak. And what they did is they exhumed
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Speaker 1: the coffin of that dead sailor. They didn't know what
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Speaker 1: else to do, they just decided they would do that,
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Speaker 1: and so they raised the coffin out of the ground
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Speaker 1: and they open it up and.
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Speaker 2: They cannot believe what they see.
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Speaker 1: So it would turn out those four grave diggers had
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Speaker 1: been totally justified in being scared about what they thought
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Speaker 1: they heard and felt in that coffin when they were
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Speaker 1: going to bury it, because the sailor was not dead.
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Speaker 1: He was just so drunk that it felt like he
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Speaker 1: was dead. They couldn't feel his pulse. Doctor Allard had
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Speaker 1: been wrong. The sailor was not dead. He was totally alive.
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Speaker 1: And so as he was being carried over to the
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Speaker 1: grave site to be buried, he really was moving around
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Speaker 1: inside the coffin and moaning because he was horribly hungover,
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Speaker 1: but totally alive, and you know, grappling with the fact
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Speaker 1: that he's now you know, confined inside of this coffin.
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Speaker 1: He likely had no idea what was going on, so
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Speaker 1: you can imagine the types of sounds and things he
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Speaker 1: might be doing. And so the grave diggers they were
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Speaker 1: right to be scared. They did get a police officer.
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Speaker 1: The police officer came over and for whatever reason, when
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Speaker 1: he inspected the coffin, you know, he saw it was sealed.
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Speaker 2: There was no movement inside the coffin.
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Speaker 1: It was totally quiet, so, you know, the sailor inside
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Speaker 1: he just wasn't moving or making any sound, and so
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Speaker 1: the police officer greenlit burying him. So the living sailor
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Speaker 1: inside the coffin is buried underground by these grave diggers
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Speaker 1: and they go their set separate ways afterwards. But then
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Speaker 1: that sailor wakes up again, you know, he begins thrashing
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Speaker 1: around after being buried in the ground, and he actually
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Speaker 1: managed to break out of the coffin and climb out
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Speaker 1: of the ground.
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Speaker 2: He saved himself.
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Speaker 1: He literally, you know, survived being buried alive. But he
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Speaker 1: was furious at the doctor who so cavalierly just decided
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Speaker 1: he was dead and now I go bury him. And
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Speaker 1: so he decided he would play a prank on the
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Speaker 1: doctor to get back at him. So what he did
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Speaker 1: is he filled his coffin up with rocks, and he
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Speaker 1: sealed it back up and he reburied it so nobody
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Speaker 1: would know anything. And then for the next week or so,
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Speaker 1: he just kind of hid out and didn't let anybody
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Speaker 1: know that he was.
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Speaker 2: Actually still alive.
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Speaker 1: And then after about a week he knew the doctor
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Speaker 1: took his walks in that cemetery, and so he hid
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Speaker 1: behind a tree in the cemetery and waited for the
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Speaker 1: doctor to be alone making his walk, and when he
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Speaker 1: saw him, it was the sailor fully alive in the flesh,
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Speaker 1: stepping out from behind the tree looking at the doctor.
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Speaker 2: That was him.
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Speaker 1: It really was the sailor, and he really did run forward, shrieking,
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Speaker 1: pretending to be a ghost, and he attacked doctor Allard,
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Speaker 1: basically giving him the impression that his angry ghost was
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Speaker 1: attacking him. And then after doctor Allard passed out on
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Speaker 1: the ground, the sailor ran off. But for doctor Allard,
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Speaker 1: who fully believed that sailor was dead. Can you imagine
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Speaker 1: what he thought when he saw, you know, the sailor
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Speaker 1: attacking him and shrieking in the middle of the cemetery.
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Speaker 1: He fully believed that was the sailor's ghost, and he
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Speaker 1: had this totally real experience getting attacked by the ghost.
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Speaker 1: And so even though he survived the encounter, it drove
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Speaker 1: him mad. He began seeing the dead sailor the ghost
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Speaker 1: everywhere he went, and it eventually drove him to kill himself.
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Speaker 1: And so when the police opened up that coffin, all
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Speaker 1: they saw were all the rocks the sailor had left behind.
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Speaker 1: But following the doctors suicide, that sailor apparently skipped down.
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Speaker 2: And was never seen again.
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Speaker 1: ninety two, a twenty year old man named Benjamin Trudell
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Speaker 1: climbed into his bed inside of the Deer Park Life
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Speaker 1: Saving Station, which was a small government building right off
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Speaker 1: the coast of Lake Superior in Michigan. Benjamin was a
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Speaker 1: member of the Life Saving Sir, which was a precursor
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Speaker 1: to the US Coast Guard, and he was currently working
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Speaker 1: overnight as a surfman, which was basically like a lifeguard,
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Speaker 1: but specifically for ships that were out on the lake.
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Speaker 1: He was there with a bunch of other surfmen who
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Speaker 1: were all taking shifts, either sleeping, patrolling the beach, or
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Speaker 1: staying awake inside the station in case somebody came looking
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Speaker 1: for help. Benjamin had just finished a four hour beach
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Speaker 1: patrol which had been pretty uneventful, but at the same
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Speaker 1: time he was still walking around for four hours on
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Speaker 1: loose sand.
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Speaker 2: And so he was pretty tired.
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Speaker 1: And so now that he was back at the station,
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Speaker 1: he had a little bit of time where he could
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Speaker 1: basically take a nap, and so he set his alarm
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Speaker 1: for four hours later, which is when he would need
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Speaker 1: to be awake in the station to take on another shift,
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Speaker 1: And then he told his fellow surfman that he was
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Speaker 1: going to close his eyes for a minute, and then
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Speaker 1: he climbed into bed and fell asleep. A few hours later, though,
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Speaker 1: ben shot up in bed and began frantically looking around
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Speaker 1: the room. He was covered in sweat, his heart was racing,
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Speaker 1: and after a second he realized that okay, like he's okay,
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Speaker 1: he's the he's in this, he's safe, and what had
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Speaker 1: just happened to him was just a dream he had had,
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Speaker 1: like a terrifying nightmare, but it had felt so real
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Speaker 1: that it really took him a second to, you know,
17:09
Speaker 1: understand that that's all, it had been, just a dream.
17:12
Speaker 2: In this dream, Benjamin was walking along the.
17:15
Speaker 1: Coast of Lake Superior, like he did during his nightly
17:17
Speaker 1: beach patrol, and it was dark out, and there was
17:20
Speaker 1: this awful thunderstorm and the rain was coming down so
17:23
Speaker 1: hard that Benjamin could barely see, and in fact, he
17:26
Speaker 1: almost felt like the impacts of the individual rain drops
17:29
Speaker 1: almost hurt his skin, like they were acids striking his skin.
17:33
Speaker 1: Then suddenly, through this wall of rain right in front
17:36
Speaker 1: of him, this man who ben.
17:38
Speaker 2: Didn't recognize, kind of stumbled into view.
17:41
Speaker 1: And this man was wearing very nice clothing, like he
17:43
Speaker 1: was on his way to a party or something. But
17:45
Speaker 1: you know, they're down at the coast of this lake
17:47
Speaker 1: and it's storming out like it didn't make any sense,
17:50
Speaker 1: but Benjamin, he just stared at the sky and didn't
17:52
Speaker 1: say anything, and the guy looked right back at Benjamin,
17:56
Speaker 1: and without saying a word, he just reached out and
17:59
Speaker 1: really aggressively shook Benjamin's hand. And then as Benjamin is
18:03
Speaker 1: watching his hand be shaken around by this guy, this
18:06
Speaker 1: guy with wild eyes turns and he points out to
18:10
Speaker 1: the lake that's right next to them, and even though
18:12
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything, he pointed with this level of urgency,
18:15
Speaker 1: like there's something out there, something bad, and you need
18:19
Speaker 1: to pay attention to whatever it is. And so Benjamin
18:21
Speaker 1: he turned and his hand still being shaken by the sky,
18:25
Speaker 1: and he looks out but it's just a wall of water.
18:27
Speaker 1: He can't even see the lake, and he has no
18:29
Speaker 1: idea what this guy is trying to tell him. And
18:32
Speaker 1: it was at that point that, you know, Benjamin sat
18:35
Speaker 1: up and he was awake again. Now, objectively, Benjamin understood
18:38
Speaker 1: that while this dream definitely was creepy, it wasn't really terrifying.
18:43
Speaker 2: You know.
18:43
Speaker 1: It's you know, it was raining and storming, and a
18:45
Speaker 1: random guy came up and shook his hand and pointed
18:48
Speaker 1: at the lake like that's that's not terrifying. But for
18:51
Speaker 1: some reason, for Benjamin, it just felt so real that
18:55
Speaker 1: that was the thing that made it so unsettling. It
18:57
Speaker 1: felt like he really had been out there and really
19:00
Speaker 1: had this interaction. Now, Benjamin was not the type of
19:03
Speaker 1: guy that would, you know, find meaning in dreams. He
19:07
Speaker 1: basically chalked dreams up as just that, just dreams. But
19:10
Speaker 1: there was something different about this dream. He felt, almost intuitively,
19:14
Speaker 1: like what had just happened in his dream was a
19:17
Speaker 1: warning that that man, whoever he was, was telling Benjamin
19:22
Speaker 1: something and it had to do with the lake.
19:24
Speaker 2: But he didn't know what it was.
19:25
Speaker 1: But as Benjamin thought about this, he knew how sort
19:28
Speaker 1: of crazy that sounded, and he figured that maybe he
19:31
Speaker 1: was just kind of caught up in the immediacy of
19:33
Speaker 1: having just had this dream that really the only reason
19:36
Speaker 1: he felt like it.
19:36
Speaker 2: Had weight is because it just happened, and so maybe
19:39
Speaker 2: if he just.
19:40
Speaker 1: Went outside and got some fresh air and let some
19:42
Speaker 1: time pass, that he would, you know, let this dream
19:45
Speaker 1: fade into the ether and he'd go back to normal life.
19:47
Speaker 2: And sure enough, when he got outside and got.
19:50
Speaker 1: Some fresh air, he did feel better, but he did
19:53
Speaker 1: still feel like that dream meant something, and so he
19:55
Speaker 1: just walked down to the coast of Lake Superior where
19:58
Speaker 1: he was in his dream to the other surfmen who
20:00
Speaker 1: were down there doing their own patrol, and there.
20:02
Speaker 2: You know, there was nothing unusual happening a lake.
20:05
Speaker 1: It was so calm, and Benjamin he went up to
20:08
Speaker 1: one of the surfmen and just kind of told him
20:10
Speaker 1: about the stream, and he was almost joking about it.
20:12
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you know, it felt so real that
20:14
Speaker 1: like I almost feel like it was a warning of
20:16
Speaker 1: some kind, but yeah, it's just a dream.
20:19
Speaker 2: And the other surfmen who were listening just were like, yeah,
20:21
Speaker 2: that's crazy, crazy dream, huh, And that was it.
20:24
Speaker 1: Following day, around noon, Benjamin and his fellow surfman were
20:28
Speaker 1: hanging out inside the life saving station when all of
20:31
Speaker 1: a sudden, this guy comes stumbling into the station and
20:35
Speaker 1: he looked awful. He was soaking wet, he was covered
20:38
Speaker 1: in all these cuts and bruises, and he was visibly
20:41
Speaker 1: shaking so much that it almost looked like he was
20:44
Speaker 1: about to collapse right there onto the floor. Benjamin immediately
20:47
Speaker 1: asked the guy, like, Hey, what's going on, what's brought
20:49
Speaker 1: you here?
20:50
Speaker 2: What's happening?
20:50
Speaker 1: And the man, who clearly was struggling to just breathe
20:53
Speaker 1: at this point, sort of composed himself and just said,
20:56
Speaker 1: I was out on the lake last night on a
20:58
Speaker 1: ship that sunk. And as soon as he said that,
21:01
Speaker 1: Benjamin was like in total disbelief, because if a ship
21:05
Speaker 1: sunk on Lake Superior, the life saving Service that Benjamin
21:09
Speaker 1: was a part of was supposed to know because they
21:12
Speaker 1: patrolled the lake and tracked the vessels out on the water,
21:16
Speaker 1: So it seemed sort of impossible that a ship could
21:19
Speaker 1: sink and his crew, the Surfman would somehow not even
21:22
Speaker 1: know about it. And then at the same time, Benjamin
21:25
Speaker 1: is thinking this. He couldn't help but go back to
21:28
Speaker 1: that dream he had had. It had happened last night,
21:31
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like this guy was warning Benjamin
21:35
Speaker 1: about something out on the lake. It just seemed way
21:39
Speaker 1: too coincidental that this guy's here the next day talking
21:42
Speaker 1: about a shipwreck out on the lake around the same timeframe.
21:45
Speaker 1: The survivor of the shipwreck explained that the ship had
21:49
Speaker 1: been really far out on the lake, probably too far
21:52
Speaker 1: away from shore for them.
21:53
Speaker 2: To even see.
21:54
Speaker 1: And he said that he and several other people had
21:56
Speaker 1: made it onto a lifeboat, but the boat had capsized,
21:59
Speaker 1: and he spent hours and hours swimming to shore, and
22:03
Speaker 1: he had just gotten here and that's why he'd come in.
22:05
Speaker 1: And he was soaking wet and so tired because he
22:07
Speaker 1: had just swam all night.
22:08
Speaker 2: And he said he didn't know.
22:09
Speaker 1: About any of the other survivors, or if there were
22:11
Speaker 1: any other survivors. All he knew was that he was here,
22:14
Speaker 1: and he has no idea what else happened. And so
22:16
Speaker 1: Benjamin and the other surfmen immediately gave this man a
22:19
Speaker 1: blanket and some food and some water, and then they
22:21
Speaker 1: quickly sent out a fleet of boats to go search
22:24
Speaker 1: the lake to hopefully find other victims of the shipwreck.
22:27
Speaker 1: That evening and all through the night, Benjamin and his
22:30
Speaker 1: coworkers sailed rescue boats back and forth all across Lake
22:34
Speaker 1: Superior looking for survivors, but all they could.
22:37
Speaker 2: Find were four dead bodies.
22:39
Speaker 1: But the man who had swammed to shore and told
22:42
Speaker 1: them about this shipwreck said there had to be more
22:45
Speaker 1: people out there. He said there had been twenty seven
22:47
Speaker 1: people on this ship, including him when it had sunk,
22:50
Speaker 1: which meant a lot of people were still definitely unaccounted for.
22:53
Speaker 2: So while some of the.
22:54
Speaker 1: Surfmen continued to search out on the water, Benjamin and
22:58
Speaker 1: a small team decided they would actually search the coastline
23:01
Speaker 1: itself and see if anybody washed up on shore. And
23:04
Speaker 1: so early on the morning of September one, so now
23:07
Speaker 1: the surfmen have been out searching for people for over
23:10
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. At this point, Benjamin and his team
23:13
Speaker 1: were walking down the coastline and they looked up ahead
23:16
Speaker 1: and they saw what appeared to be two people laying
23:19
Speaker 1: on the sand, and so of course they ran up
23:21
Speaker 1: to them, and unfortunately they discovered that, you know, it
23:25
Speaker 1: was a man and a woman who were lying face down.
23:27
Speaker 2: In the sand, and they were not breathing. They were dead.
23:30
Speaker 1: And so Ben he knelt down next to the man
23:33
Speaker 1: and he began rolling.
23:35
Speaker 2: His body over to get a look at him. And
23:36
Speaker 2: when he did that, two things happened.
23:39
Speaker 1: When he rolled him over and actually got a look
23:41
Speaker 1: at this guy's face, he saw immediately that it was
23:44
Speaker 1: the exact same guy from his dream, the guy.
23:48
Speaker 2: Who had shaken his hand and pointed out at the lake.
23:50
Speaker 2: It was him, definitely.
23:52
Speaker 1: And as he's having this revelation and he's sort of
23:55
Speaker 1: kneeling there in shock, the man's body, he's sort of
23:58
Speaker 1: rolling it over, and as it complete the rollover, the
24:01
Speaker 1: man's limp hand falls directly onto Ben's hand like a handshake.
24:08
Speaker 1: Ben would later learn that the ship that sunk out
24:10
Speaker 1: on Lake Superior the night before was called the Western Reserve,
24:15
Speaker 1: and apparently it had sunk during the exact same time
24:19
Speaker 1: that Ben had that nightmare. And the man that Ben
24:22
Speaker 1: saw in his dream, the man that had been pointing
24:25
Speaker 1: out at the lake and shaking his hand in the dream,
24:28
Speaker 1: and then Ben found on the shore dead, who then
24:31
Speaker 1: in his death flopped over and put his hand in
24:33
Speaker 1: his hand all over again. Was a guy named Robert Minch,
24:37
Speaker 1: and he was part owner of the Western Reserve ship.
24:40
Speaker 1: For the rest of Benjamin's life, he believed that Robert's
24:43
Speaker 1: spirit had actually visited him in that nightmare to warn
24:47
Speaker 1: him about the shipwreck that was literally happening right then
24:51
Speaker 1: and there.
24:52
Speaker 2: That he was shaking his hand and pointing out at.
24:54
Speaker 1: The lake, like, hey, go out there right now, there's
24:57
Speaker 1: something horrible happening.
24:58
Speaker 2: A ship is sinking. People need did your help.
25:00
Speaker 1: But when Benjamin woke up, despite really feeling like this
25:04
Speaker 1: meant something, this dream was a warning, he didn't actually
25:08
Speaker 1: go out and search the lake, and so as a result,
25:11
Speaker 1: the ship sank. In fact, of the twenty seven people
25:14
Speaker 1: who were on board that ship that sank, twenty six died,
25:18
Speaker 1: including Robert the owner. The only survivor was that man
25:22
Speaker 1: who swammed ashore and told them after the shipwreck had
25:26
Speaker 1: already happened. On the afternoon of September twentieth, nineteen eighty nine,
25:42
Speaker 1: a seventy year old man named Jim Moore and his
25:45
Speaker 1: wife Clara walked along the beach on a tiny island
25:48
Speaker 1: off the coast of South Carolina. It was called Polly's
25:50
Speaker 1: Island and It was less than four miles long and
25:53
Speaker 1: only wide enough to fit one main road with beachfront
25:56
Speaker 1: houses on either side. Jim and Clara lived in one
25:58
Speaker 1: of those beachfront houses, and every afternoon they would go
26:02
Speaker 1: out and walk the beach together. That particular day, as
26:05
Speaker 1: they walked, Jim could see some clouds gathering off in
26:07
Speaker 1: the distance, right above the ocean, and he'd actually seen
26:10
Speaker 1: a weather report recently about this big storm called Hurricane
26:13
Speaker 1: Hugo that was supposed to be heading their way in
26:15
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Living on an island, Jim
26:18
Speaker 1: and Clara were pretty used to getting warnings like that.
26:21
Speaker 1: I mean, storms were sort of a big deal on
26:22
Speaker 1: an island because you're pretty isolated, and they were just
26:25
Speaker 1: planning to evacuate if the weather, you know, got pretty bad.
26:28
Speaker 1: But for now, it did seem like the weather wasn't
26:30
Speaker 1: too bad, so they were sticking it out. However, it
26:33
Speaker 1: did sort of seem like basically everybody else on Polly's
26:36
Speaker 1: Island had taken the storm a little bit more seriously,
26:39
Speaker 1: and most of them had already evacuated. And in fact,
26:42
Speaker 1: as Jim and Clara are walking, I mean, normally, they
26:45
Speaker 1: would see lots of people out doing what they were doing,
26:47
Speaker 1: walking the beach, but today there was just one person
26:50
Speaker 1: really far down the beach, just this one guy walking
26:53
Speaker 1: towards them.
26:53
Speaker 2: But that was it. The rest of the beach was
26:55
Speaker 2: basically deserted.
26:56
Speaker 1: But Jim and Clara were you know, veterans of Polly's
26:59
Speaker 1: Island and certainly veterans of other storms that they had
27:02
Speaker 1: weathered in the past, and so they weren't worried yet
27:05
Speaker 1: and they just continued to, you know, walk down the
27:07
Speaker 1: beach and chat and just kind of stare out at
27:10
Speaker 1: these growing clouds and just have a normal day.
27:12
Speaker 2: But as they're walking.
27:14
Speaker 1: Jim was sort of keeping an eye on this guy,
27:16
Speaker 1: this one other guy on the beach that was walking
27:18
Speaker 1: towards them. Now he wasn't literally walking towards them, he
27:22
Speaker 1: was just sort of walking in the other direction. And
27:24
Speaker 1: so inevitably, both Jim and Clara and this guy were
27:27
Speaker 1: going to pass each other. And as Jim got closer
27:30
Speaker 1: to this guy, he realized he actually didn't recognize him.
27:33
Speaker 1: And realistically, Polly's Island was so small that Jim and
27:37
Speaker 1: Clara basically knew everybody, or at least could recognize everybody.
27:42
Speaker 1: But this guy who was wearing this long gray coat
27:45
Speaker 1: and this wide brimmed hat and he kind of had
27:47
Speaker 1: his head down. Jim didn't recognize and he told Clara like, hey,
27:51
Speaker 1: who is this guy? As they're walking closer and closer,
27:53
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't know, I've never seen him before.
27:56
Speaker 1: But you know, there was no cause for alarm here.
27:57
Speaker 1: You know, it's broad daylight, and who cares if they're
28:00
Speaker 1: a stranger on the island. I mean, of course, people
28:03
Speaker 1: that live here have guests all the time, Like this
28:05
Speaker 1: is probably just somebody visiting somebody who lives here.
28:08
Speaker 2: And so they're walking getting closer and closer.
28:10
Speaker 1: And then finally, when Jim and Clara were about, you know,
28:13
Speaker 1: ten feet away from the sky, the guy in the
28:15
Speaker 1: big gray coat, Jim, you know, to be polite, just said, hey,
28:18
Speaker 1: how you doing. You know, because they're the only people
28:20
Speaker 1: on the beach, you can't just ignore each other. But
28:21
Speaker 1: the guy in the gray coat, he just kept that
28:24
Speaker 1: big hat sort of angled down and just briskly walked
28:27
Speaker 1: right past Jim and Clara and didn't even acknowledge them,
28:30
Speaker 1: which is like.
28:31
Speaker 2: You know, there's nobody else here, what are you doing.
28:33
Speaker 1: It's sort of rude, and so Jim and Clara they
28:35
Speaker 1: look at each other like that's weird. They keep on walking,
28:39
Speaker 1: and then, for whatever reason, Jim just turns around and
28:44
Speaker 1: looks towards the sky the guy who had just passed them,
28:46
Speaker 1: the guy in the gray coat. And when he looked,
28:48
Speaker 1: he just stopped because the guy was gone.
28:52
Speaker 2: And there's nowhere to go.
28:54
Speaker 1: There is no you know, shrubs or trees or anything.
28:58
Speaker 1: This is a wide open, flat beach and this guy.
29:01
Speaker 2: Has just passed Jim and Clara like seconds ago. He
29:06
Speaker 2: can't be anywhere else. He has to be on the beach.
29:08
Speaker 1: There's nowhere to hide. And so Jimmy grabs Claaria and
29:11
Speaker 1: he's like, look, he's gone. And she turns around and
29:13
Speaker 1: she's like, what's going on. That's not possible. And they're
29:16
Speaker 1: looking like did he go in the ocean? But they're
29:18
Speaker 1: looking out in the water and there's no sign of him.
29:20
Speaker 1: The only place, you know, maybe he could have gone
29:24
Speaker 1: is if as soon as he passed by Jim and
29:26
Speaker 1: Clara he hard turned and ran inland and hid, you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: behind one of the houses.
29:31
Speaker 2: But that's pretty far away.
29:33
Speaker 1: It just didn't seem possible that in that short of
29:35
Speaker 1: an amount of time he could get up there and hide,
29:38
Speaker 1: and also, why would you do that? That's such bizarre behavior.
29:42
Speaker 1: And so Jim and Clara they're just standing there, like
29:44
Speaker 1: trying to come up with some reasonable theory to explain
29:47
Speaker 1: where this guy went.
29:49
Speaker 2: But they just couldn't do it. It was like this
29:51
Speaker 2: guy just disappeared.
29:53
Speaker 1: And so eventually Jim and Clara just had to turn
29:56
Speaker 1: back around and finish their walk and make their way home.
30:00
Speaker 2: And the whole time all they.
30:01
Speaker 1: Could talk about was this disappearing man in the gray coat,
30:05
Speaker 1: because it defied any rational explanation.
30:08
Speaker 2: Where did he go?
30:10
Speaker 1: When the couple finally go back to their house, by
30:13
Speaker 1: this point, the clouds that had been gathering outside were
30:15
Speaker 1: now very dark, and it really did seem like a
30:18
Speaker 1: serious storm was on the horizon. And then when they
30:20
Speaker 1: turned on the TV, they put on the Weather channel,
30:23
Speaker 1: and there was this bulletin that the South Carolina state
30:26
Speaker 1: government had actually issued an evacuation order to all inhabitants
30:31
Speaker 1: of Polly's Island because apparently Hurricane Hugo was getting bigger
30:35
Speaker 1: and faster and more destructive, and it appeared like Polly's
30:39
Speaker 1: Island was clearly going.
30:40
Speaker 2: To be in the path of this hurricane.
30:42
Speaker 1: And so at this point Jim and Clara forgot about
30:45
Speaker 1: the Gray Man and realized, like, hey, we got to
30:47
Speaker 1: pack our stuff up and go. You know, we thought
30:49
Speaker 1: we had maybe a day or two before we'd have
30:50
Speaker 1: to evacuate, but no more.
30:52
Speaker 2: We got to go right now.
30:53
Speaker 1: And fortunately for them, they actually had an adult daughter
30:56
Speaker 1: who lived right on mainland South Carolina, and so they
30:59
Speaker 1: could stay with her on short notice, no problem, and
31:01
Speaker 1: so they quickly packed up. They hopped in their car,
31:04
Speaker 1: and they drove on the one main road until they
31:06
Speaker 1: hit the bridge that went over the ocean. They made
31:09
Speaker 1: their way across the bridge onto mainland South Carolina and
31:12
Speaker 1: over to their daughter's house, and once they got there,
31:14
Speaker 1: their daughter was obviously very happy to see them, happy
31:17
Speaker 1: they were safe, and they would just spend the whole
31:19
Speaker 1: day basically just sitting there with the Weather Channel on
31:22
Speaker 1: watching reports about Hurricane Hugo, and over the course of
31:25
Speaker 1: the day the news got more and more dire. Hurricane
31:28
Speaker 1: Hugo was poised to be this enormous, destructive storm that
31:32
Speaker 1: was not slowing down at all, and unfortunately, Polly's Island
31:36
Speaker 1: was really looking like one of the main areas that
31:39
Speaker 1: was going to be affected by the storm. In fact,
31:41
Speaker 1: the meteorologists was saying, like, it is not safe to
31:44
Speaker 1: be on the island at this point. I mean, there's
31:46
Speaker 1: a chance that all the structures on the island could
31:49
Speaker 1: be leveled by the end of the storm. So Jim
31:51
Speaker 1: and Clara, they're obviously happy they are safe, you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: on mainland South Carolina with their daughter, but they live
31:57
Speaker 1: on that island, their house, everything they own on that island,
32:01
Speaker 1: and so the idea that they were just helpless and
32:03
Speaker 1: their house is going to be destroyed was sort of
32:06
Speaker 1: just terrible, like what can you even do? You're helpless,
32:09
Speaker 1: And so as they began to sort of spiral into
32:11
Speaker 1: all their anxieties around what's going to happen, you know,
32:14
Speaker 1: eventually one of them said, hey, let's just accept that
32:17
Speaker 1: we're in this position and let's just change the subject.
32:19
Speaker 1: You know, we're safe here, don't worry about what the
32:21
Speaker 1: storm's going to do. Let's just change the subject. And
32:24
Speaker 1: the first subject that was raised was Jim and Clara's
32:27
Speaker 1: encounter with that strange disappearing man in the gray cloak.
32:31
Speaker 1: And so Jim and Clara they told the story to
32:33
Speaker 1: their daughter about this weird guy they saw on how
32:35
Speaker 1: he just kind of vanished And their daughter was like
32:38
Speaker 1: really interested listening to the story, And when they were
32:40
Speaker 1: done telling it, she looked at her.
32:42
Speaker 2: Parents and was like, I think you might have seen
32:44
Speaker 2: the Gray Man. Now.
32:46
Speaker 1: Jim and Clara had lived on Polly's Island long enough
32:48
Speaker 1: to know about the legend of the Gray Man. As
32:51
Speaker 1: the story goes, one hundred and fifty years earlier, there
32:54
Speaker 1: was this sailor who was making his way to Polly's
32:56
Speaker 1: Island to see his fiance who was there. And when
32:59
Speaker 1: he got to the island, he unfortunately basically fell into
33:03
Speaker 1: quicksand and.
33:04
Speaker 2: Died, And so the fiance is totally heartbroken.
33:07
Speaker 1: She's basically losing her mind over the sudden loss of
33:09
Speaker 1: her love. But a couple of days after her fiance
33:13
Speaker 1: the sailor had died, she saw him walking on the
33:16
Speaker 1: beach on Polly's Island, and he was wearing this long
33:20
Speaker 1: gray coat and this big, wide brimmed hat, and he
33:24
Speaker 1: was walking towards her, and she was so overjoyed. She
33:27
Speaker 1: knows it doesn't make any sense, but she runs to
33:29
Speaker 1: her beloved sailor and right if she reaches him, he disappears. Now,
33:34
Speaker 1: Jim and Clara they couldn't help but see the overlap here.
33:37
Speaker 1: I mean, they saw, you know, a guy wearing a
33:39
Speaker 1: long gray coat with a big, wide brimmed hat, who
33:43
Speaker 1: you know, was walking on the beach, who then disappeared.
33:45
Speaker 2: It did sort of seem like the legend of the Gray.
33:48
Speaker 1: Man, But neither Jim nor Clara really felt like that
33:51
Speaker 1: actually was the explanation here.
33:52
Speaker 2: But at the same time, Jim did.
33:54
Speaker 1: Feel like, man, that is a weird coincidence. Over the
33:58
Speaker 1: next couple of days, Hurricane and Hugo made landfall and
34:01
Speaker 1: it was absolutely vicious. And then finally when it passed
34:04
Speaker 1: and it was safe to go back to Paully's Island,
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Speaker 1: Jim and Clara loaded up their car.
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Speaker 2: They said by to their daughter, and they made the
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Speaker 2: drive out there.
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Speaker 1: And as they were crossing the bridge to get out
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Speaker 1: to Paully's Island, along with all the other inhabitants that
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Speaker 1: were going back, they immediately could tell that Polly's Island
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Speaker 1: really had been leveled. I mean, the roads themselves were
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Speaker 1: badly damaged. There were street signs and trees everywhere, and
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Speaker 1: as they're getting closer they can see that basically, their
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Speaker 1: whole community has been leveled. All the buildings are destroyed.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a war zone now. Jim and
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Speaker 1: Clara had sort of braced themselves for this because they
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Speaker 1: had heard on the news that sure enough, this hurricane
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Speaker 1: had been as bad as expected and Paully's Island had
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Speaker 1: taken a direct hit. And so they drove across the
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Speaker 1: island until they reached their property, and when they got
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Speaker 1: to their property, they could not believe what they saw.
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Speaker 1: So there's actually one more part to the legend of
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Speaker 1: the gray Man Ghost.
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Speaker 2: That is, when the woman saw.
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Speaker 1: Who she believed was her dead fiance walking up the
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Speaker 1: beach with its gray coat and his big brimmed hat,
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Speaker 1: and she runs up and he disappears, and it's so tragic.
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Speaker 1: That's not the end of the story because the woman
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Speaker 1: was so upset by seeing what she thought was her
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Speaker 1: fiance again he's back from the dead.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, and then he vanishes.
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Speaker 1: It's like she had to experience his death a second time,
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Speaker 1: and it made her go crazy. It was like so
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Speaker 1: much grief, it was so overwhelming that she couldn't live
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Speaker 1: with it. And in fact, quickly after seeing you know,
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Speaker 1: his ghost disappear. She was sent off the island to
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Speaker 1: a hospital. She was basically institutionalized, and while she.
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Speaker 2: Was off the island.
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Speaker 1: Immediately after she left the island, this huge storm rolled
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Speaker 1: through and leveled Polly's Island and only one building survived.
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Speaker 2: It was her house.
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Speaker 1: Inexplicably, her house was untouched, completely untouched.
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Speaker 2: Everybody else's ruined.
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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind, because when Jim and Clara returned
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Speaker 1: to Paully's Island following Hurricane Hugo, whose house was the
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Speaker 1: only house left standing, theirs utterly untouched, their neighbors' houses,
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Speaker 1: all the local businesses, everything gone.
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Speaker 2: Their house untouched.
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Speaker 1: And just so you know, the legend of the Gray Man,
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Speaker 1: people believe if you see the Gray Man, he's warning
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Speaker 1: you to leave the island in advance of a storm,
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Speaker 1: like he apparently did before his fiance. He warned her
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Speaker 1: get off the island, and if you heed his warning,
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Speaker 1: the legend goes your house will be spared, and people
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Speaker 1: believe that's exactly what happened to Jim and Clara.
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