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Jared Mitchell Talks CWS - Off the Bench, June 10, 2025 · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB one of four five
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  Speaker 4: ESPN Baton Rouge. It is now time to go to
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  Speaker 4: my guy, mister Ben Hartsock, Ohio state legend decade in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, my colleague at sirius x him Benjamin.
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  Speaker 3: How are we doing, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Do well?
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  Speaker 6: Hester, Good to.
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  Speaker 7: See you, man. I don't know this Flynn guy though.
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  Speaker 6: Here he's a little shifty.
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  Speaker 7: I'm a little.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: You know this.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta watch out for the quarterbacks always like you
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  Speaker 4: gotta keep both eyes on them.
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  Speaker 7: Definitely absolutely good to see you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, great to see you. Before we get into anything
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  Speaker 4: football related. Uh, you're a pageant dad, I mean, and
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  Speaker 4: you are thriving right now, sir.
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  Speaker 7: Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 8: It was not on my bingo card that my oldest
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  Speaker 8: would get into pageants, but here we are, and I'm
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  Speaker 8: gonna bottom.
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  Speaker 7: Line this thing.
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  Speaker 8: It's a lot Wow, it is a lot. There's my
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  Speaker 8: oldest starting pageants two years ago. She was so fortunate
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  Speaker 8: she won a local pageant last summer. So she was
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  Speaker 8: missed Greater Atlanta's team. Big caveat she's in the team categories, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 8: so she gets to compete in Miss Georgia. That's a
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  Speaker 8: big deal. Whoever wins Miss Georgia goes to Miss America. Right,
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  Speaker 8: that's how these things go. It's like the playoff system,
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  Speaker 8: and she goes down to this Miss Georgia festival. I
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  Speaker 8: guess it's the only way you can call it. They
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  Speaker 8: don't just compete Saturday. Saturday is the big finish. They
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  Speaker 8: got their last Thursday. Guys, they checked in. I rented an.
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  Speaker 7: Airbnb in Columbus, Georgia for ten.
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  Speaker 2: Days, ten days, ten days.
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  Speaker 7: This is like burning Man for pageants. It's bananas. Bananas.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, why didn't you just pull the RV up?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: Because mom and Dad are coming down from Ohio to
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  Speaker 8: to soak in the festivities tomorrow. They're staying in the
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  Speaker 8: RF as a secondary casita. It's over at the Pine
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  Speaker 8: Woods RV Resort just outside.
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  Speaker 7: Columbus, Georgia, so that we can stay as a family
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  Speaker 7: in the Airbnb.
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  Speaker 8: And you know what's funny about pageanting is do you
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  Speaker 8: remember at the combine guys, how you're trying to be
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  Speaker 8: like Johnny good teammate, Like, all.
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  Speaker 9: Right, bro, go kill it on the bench press. I
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  Speaker 9: hope you get one hundred reps. Oh dude, I hope
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  Speaker 9: your vertical is like six feet bro, Like, really, you
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  Speaker 9: hope the guy trips, You hope the guy falls down.
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  Speaker 9: You're not really rude to that guy. It's that plus.
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  Speaker 8: More in the pageant realm oh, your outfit is fire.
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  Speaker 3: It is you know what I keep down.
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  Speaker 8: Every one of these girls hopes that the other girl
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  Speaker 8: gets a massive zip right in the middle of their nose.
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  Speaker 7: That's all this is. That's all this is. It's fake.
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  Speaker 7: It's fake juice, fake juice.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: That is so good because you're exactly right, Like, yeah, Google,
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  Speaker 4: get that three cone drill, like no, I want the
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  Speaker 4: best three cone drill, like Darren McFadden, Like, I hope
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  Speaker 4: you slipped three times actually on this drill before you go.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly.
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  Speaker 8: But it's it's an incredible thing. It's weird to have
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  Speaker 8: she graduated high school. I've got a high school graduate.
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  Speaker 8: I've got a younger that's now a rising junior. Life
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  Speaker 8: comes at you fast. Which, by the way, how about
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  Speaker 8: the fact that your boy, Philip Rivers, your boy Philip
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  Speaker 8: Rivers has got a kid committed, Like all of our
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  Speaker 8: old teammates are getting to that where our kids are
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  Speaker 8: going to college. The tweet I sent you a couple
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  Speaker 8: weeks ago had me cracking up. It was saying that
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  Speaker 8: every other year, we're gonna have a Philip Rivers son
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  Speaker 8: going to be a college quarterback, just like the Fast.
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  Speaker 7: And Furious movie series. Like that's the kind of the rhythm.
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  Speaker 4: Funny enough, The guy who put that tweet out, Chris Marler,
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  Speaker 4: works for us here at this station.
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  Speaker 3: So good man, you didn't even know that when you
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  Speaker 3: send it to me. But I will say this, though
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  Speaker 3: it's a great tweet, but seven of.
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  Speaker 4: Ten or girls for Philip, So football wise, right, you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a little bit of a gap. We're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna get the banger Fast and Furious movies every other
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  Speaker 4: year because you know, other sports, but just not football.
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  Speaker 3: With the River Skips.
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  Speaker 8: Next time you talk to Philip, tell them don't let
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  Speaker 8: those girls do pageants.
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  Speaker 7: Stay as far away as possible.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I love it so yeah, I definitely want to ask
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  Speaker 4: you about that. You did say it was kind of
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  Speaker 4: like the playoff. There give me Ben hart Socks, because look,
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  Speaker 4: you and I did radio together for a very long time.
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  Speaker 4: Now you do the show before my show, so we
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  Speaker 4: don't get a chance to But you and I have
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  Speaker 4: always had great conversations, open conversations about the future of
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  Speaker 4: college football. I was like at SEC spring meetings, and
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  Speaker 4: so I heard a lot from ads and coaches and
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  Speaker 4: what they wanted to do. What does Ben Hartsock want
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  Speaker 4: to do with the college football playoff?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I think we are in an era
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  Speaker 8: in society that we are designer everything. We wanted to
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  Speaker 8: design every perfect possible outcome, whether you're a high school
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  Speaker 8: kid trying to be a start or a middle school
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  Speaker 8: kid trying to start on high schoo whether you're high
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  Speaker 8: school kid trying to play in college, a college kids
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  Speaker 8: trying to play in pros, the college team trying to
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  Speaker 8: make it to the playoff.
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  Speaker 7: We want to fine tune. It's risk of mitigation.
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  Speaker 8: It's like ruben Feffer from a Long Game, Polly, you
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  Speaker 8: want to mitigate your risk and make your desired outcome
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  Speaker 8: as high as you possibly could. And the postseason, the
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  Speaker 8: fact that we've had one iteration of the twelve team
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  Speaker 8: playoff and immediately we're starting to fine tune it. We
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  Speaker 8: want to tweak it just a little bit to get
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  Speaker 8: a more perfect outcome. Like I understand there it might
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  Speaker 8: be justified to make that adjustment to go from conference
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  Speaker 8: championship seating to straight seating because of last year's output,
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  Speaker 8: But next year it might be completely different and a
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  Speaker 8: team that deserved to get a buy as a championship team,
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  Speaker 8: you know, will be taken to have that taken from them,
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  Speaker 8: and it will then we'll be like, well, we need
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  Speaker 8: to switch it to something else. So I think all
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  Speaker 8: of this stuff and the playoff is no different. We
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  Speaker 8: are very much in an era where we can change
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  Speaker 8: these things and fine tune them, and as a result,
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  Speaker 8: maybe we'll have a more balanced bracket like we didn't
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  Speaker 8: have this year.
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  Speaker 7: But the unattended.
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  Speaker 8: Consequence is the meaningfulness of the conference championship games is diminished.
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  Speaker 8: Those winner go home games and or the buy that
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  Speaker 8: came as a benefit of those go away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly do.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the big talk down in spring meetings,
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  Speaker 4: was you know, the formats going to change?
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  Speaker 3: Like what we wanted to change too.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of the changes been obviously, like changing
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  Speaker 4: the seating process. But it's like, now, okay, let's get
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  Speaker 4: to sixteen teams. And for me, I'm in favor of going, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: five automatic qualifiers if you win your conference. I am
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  Speaker 4: all for that, because winning your conference should mean something
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  Speaker 4: like you should get in there and then.
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  Speaker 3: Eleven at largest.
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  Speaker 4: I do not need four bids automatically to the SEC,
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  Speaker 4: four to the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't need that.
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  Speaker 4: I need the eleven best teams after the five champion.
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  Speaker 4: And look, let's go back to a system that all
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  Speaker 4: three of us won a national championship in the BCS system.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go to something like that because in college baseball
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  Speaker 4: and softball we have what we always talk about RPI.
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  Speaker 3: What do we talk about in basketball season?
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  Speaker 4: We got kimpalm, we got net raids, right, we got
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  Speaker 4: all these rankings, all these numbers, all these analytics. We
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  Speaker 4: can do something similar in football and we kind of
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  Speaker 4: did with the BCS. So for me, let's get the
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  Speaker 4: eleven best after the champions and no matter what conference
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  Speaker 4: they're in, let's put them in.
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  Speaker 8: So one thing, I don't disagree with you, the five
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  Speaker 8: plus eleven feels the most merit based. But what I
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  Speaker 8: don't want to do is I don't want to go
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  Speaker 8: back to the algorithm.
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  Speaker 7: I've been saying this a bunch recently, like there is
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  Speaker 7: so much.
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  Speaker 8: The FPI for ESPN came out last week and we
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  Speaker 8: talked to Bill Connolly, a lot who does SP plus
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  Speaker 8: all these data metrics.
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  Speaker 7: A pastor said this to us. It might have been
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  Speaker 7: a year or more ago.
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  Speaker 8: Pastor said, our kids don't need us today anymore for
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  Speaker 8: any kind of information. If our kids want to know
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  Speaker 8: how to clean a carburetor or build a nuclear bomb,
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  Speaker 8: that's all available on the internet very very easily. But
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  Speaker 8: what our kids need us is interpretation. And then the
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  Speaker 8: same way with data. We've got so much. We can
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  Speaker 8: find out any data point on any team at the
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  Speaker 8: snap of the finger. It's the analysis of that data
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  Speaker 8: and an algorithm that is you know, the KPIs, the fpis,
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  Speaker 8: the SP plus. These things are algorithms that are only
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  Speaker 8: as good as the formulas that you put into it.
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  Speaker 7: That might be weighted.
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  Speaker 8: You know what one team or one guy thinks that
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  Speaker 8: third down percentage is weighted higher than red zone efficiency,
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  Speaker 8: and so I want to have humans be involved in
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  Speaker 8: the analysis all the way to the end. That eye
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  Speaker 8: test matters to me. And I'm not saying.
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  Speaker 7: Only ballplayers or coaches can be the people to do it.
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  Speaker 8: There's plenty of people that have never stepped foot on
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  Speaker 8: a field that know how to now analyze football. The
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  Speaker 8: BCS era, remember we want bananas. The sporting public went
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  Speaker 8: bananas because we can't have just computers making this decision.
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  Speaker 8: We computers can't watch football. So I want to make
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  Speaker 8: the people in the room the committee. Maybe you could
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  Speaker 8: make that more transparent. You could make a c span
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  Speaker 8: and live stream that that process. I want the humans
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  Speaker 8: in the building, one because I think the human eye
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  Speaker 8: is necessary. And two, I think the biases that you
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  Speaker 8: can never get away from. Eight years in the radio,
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  Speaker 8: I've learned you're not gonna eliminate all bias. Can I
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  Speaker 8: be objective towards my team? Can you be objective towards
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  Speaker 8: your team? Absolutely? But your lived experience gives you a
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  Speaker 8: little different worldview. And that's part of college football's charm
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  Speaker 8: is some of the unreasonable and the human foiable nature
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  Speaker 8: of it all.
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  Speaker 2: I think you said it best.
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  Speaker 10: As long as people have transparency in anything, especially with this,
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  Speaker 10: I think we can all at least get on board
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  Speaker 10: with it, Like you make a decision. I disagree with
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  Speaker 10: thee whatever it is, at least I know why you're
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  Speaker 10: not locked in a room for hours and then you'll
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  Speaker 10: just come and tell us and we have to accept it.
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  Speaker 10: But I think we can all agree that there's not
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  Speaker 10: a perfect system. Whether you use algorithms, computers, people, whatever
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  Speaker 10: it is, there's gonna be people that get pissed off.
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  Speaker 10: There's gonna be arguments made against. I think all we
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  Speaker 10: can hope for as fans of college football is that
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  Speaker 10: they're improvement. We want to see the most deserving and
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  Speaker 10: we want to see the best. How do you figure
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  Speaker 10: out that combination? So there's never a perfect situation, So.
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  Speaker 3: No, there's not.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean the transparency they are talking about, I
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  Speaker 4: think that would help. I always talk about this, and
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  Speaker 4: Ben's heard me go off on this, like if an
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  Speaker 4: official makes a bad call, because if you threw an interception,
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  Speaker 4: if Ben missed the block, if I fumbled, we had
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  Speaker 4: to answer the question after the game count why did
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  Speaker 4: you do it?
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  Speaker 3: What happened? And I would love that from officials.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I called this because I saw this kind of
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  Speaker 4: the same system, Like, hey, let's get in those rooms.
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  Speaker 4: You know how many people ben you do know would
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  Speaker 4: watch that like behind the doors college Football Playoff Committee
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  Speaker 4: and you know whatever analytics that they're using, and they're
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  Speaker 4: going over it and hear those conversations of what those
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  Speaker 4: ads and presidents, former coaches. I would tune into every
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  Speaker 4: single minute of that.
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  Speaker 8: You guys said, well, hold on before I start my story,
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  Speaker 8: are you guys on a heart out?
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  Speaker 3: Do I have a heart out?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, we had a letter rip.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So.
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  Speaker 8: You guys we were all in locker rooms when the
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  Speaker 8: analytics era really washed over the NFL. Do you guys
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  Speaker 8: remember your first interactions with analytics?
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  Speaker 3: I mean no, I do.
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  Speaker 4: We had so we brought in somebody from the military
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  Speaker 4: into San Diego that I was probably twenty twelve and
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  Speaker 4: it was a former marine, and they like they would
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  Speaker 4: start to go over different things with us as far
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  Speaker 4: as you know, analytics to everything like pass protections and
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  Speaker 4: footwork and like all those things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought in somebody for sure.
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  Speaker 7: So when I was it was this was during the
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  Speaker 7: Panthers era.
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  Speaker 6: For me.
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  Speaker 8: So eleven, twelve, thirteen, one of those years, we were
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  Speaker 8: down in the weight room the day after a Sunday game.
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  Speaker 8: We're on a Monday light workout. You know, y'all go
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  Speaker 8: through the corrections from the previous day. John Mascow, the
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  Speaker 8: O line coach for the team, came down and he
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  Speaker 8: goes boys by the scouts and the front office people upstairs.
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  Speaker 7: They've got this new thing called.
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  Speaker 6: Pro Football Focus, and they've.
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  Speaker 7: Got this information that these guys have given every one
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  Speaker 7: of you jokers a great yeh.
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  Speaker 8: And the front office people upstairs have given us to
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  Speaker 8: this info, to these coaches, this new data, and they
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  Speaker 8: say that we should make this part of our analysis.
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  Speaker 8: This should be part of our evaluation of you, day
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  Speaker 8: in day out.
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  Speaker 3: And what do we do.
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  Speaker 7: We're like a bunch of nerds. These guys don't know ball.
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  Speaker 7: You're telling me that some guy in.
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  Speaker 8: The basement of his mom's of his mom's house is
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  Speaker 8: going to be able to say no, whether or not.
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  Speaker 7: Me and so and so executed a double.
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  Speaker 9: Team like well what I've wrote it at a well
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  Speaker 9: fast forward, real quick.
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  Speaker 8: They had it broken down by team, They had us
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  Speaker 8: broken down by offensive unit. They had it broke it
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  Speaker 8: down a lot of different ways in that era. And
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  Speaker 8: now remember this was early. They had us broke down
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  Speaker 8: by tight ends. Would you like to know who was
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  Speaker 8: the number one over all ranked tight end in the
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  Speaker 8: entirety of the NFL in that early Pro Football Focus era.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's your favorite Hart, this guy, this
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  Speaker 3: guy and I.
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  Speaker 8: We were like, whoa, whoa wait, let's let these guys cook.
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  Speaker 7: They're onto something here. Maybe they know something we don't.
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  Speaker 7: Oh man, we had the biggest laugh at that expense.
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  Speaker 8: But see, that's the point is that there was an
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  Speaker 8: out Pro Football Focus has.
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  Speaker 7: Got an algorithm, ESPN's got an algorithm. On Three's got
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  Speaker 7: an algorithm, and it's only as good.
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  Speaker 8: And for that era, it was early in that formula
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  Speaker 8: to where they had misweighted run blocking. I could handle
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  Speaker 8: myself at the point of attack. I get these two
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  Speaker 8: jumper cables on you.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to shock you, right.
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  Speaker 5: But they had waited the run block too much and
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  Speaker 5: the pass protection too much, but not yet because I
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  Speaker 5: had a zero on the route running capability or passes received.
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  Speaker 8: So that that it was a good example for me
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  Speaker 8: to point out these algorithms are good as a tool,
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  Speaker 8: but they're not the only tool that we should use.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm right there with you. I think it
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  Speaker 4: can certainly be something that you use. And just like
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  Speaker 4: look when I start talking about RPI and NET and
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  Speaker 4: kim paly all those things, that's not how it's seeded.
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  Speaker 4: But it is something that they use and it is
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  Speaker 4: heavily involved in the committee because basketball has a committee,
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  Speaker 4: Football has it, you know, a committee, Baseball has a committee.
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  Speaker 4: All of these sports have committees. But those other sports,
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  Speaker 4: you know, have that, Hey, their strength to schedule. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State this year, they had to go, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to Oregon, they had to go to Illinois, and they
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  Speaker 4: had to go to Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Like that should mean something.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what I'm talking about with having that analytic
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  Speaker 4: strength to schedule and having because that's what we talk
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  Speaker 4: about with RPI. It's like this seems fourteenth in the country,
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  Speaker 4: but they got the third highest RPI because man, did
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  Speaker 4: you see who those son of a guns had to
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  Speaker 4: play on the road this year? And that's why I
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  Speaker 4: want to use that analytic Although it's not seeding it
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  Speaker 4: like a computer, humans are still doing it, but they
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  Speaker 4: have that resource.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and to go back to the question of like,
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  Speaker 8: what do we want to change, what do we want
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  Speaker 8: to see? I love I think the SEC was floating
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  Speaker 8: this some of on championship weekend, conference championship weekend and
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  Speaker 8: having one verse two obviously being in the championship game,
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: but then those bonus games that we got.
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: We got that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: During COVID right three verse four would face off five
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: verse six. Kind of a good on good as in
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: a world where hopefully two or three and four and
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: four and five are going to be competing for justification
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: to convince the committee we're good enough to make one
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: of those at large bids. I think that's a really
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: interesting and compelling and of course the networks are going
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: to love it because it's content and more games or
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: as conference championship weekends usually just the championship games. More
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: content is never a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: I like that idea been on the way out here.
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  Speaker 4: You and I have talked a lot of college baseball before,
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  Speaker 4: and I got with Bobby yesterday. I might look, hey,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: there's no Big ten teams. You know the old Big
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: ten UCLA sure is in there. Can I count on
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you to root for the LSU Tigers in the College
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I mean I'm wanting to go down to Rocos Bar
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  Speaker 8: and order a bunch of jello shots.
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  Speaker 7: Man, I'm doing my part. I'm ready to chip in.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Look have RV, will travel. That's all you got to
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  Speaker 3: tell me.
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  Speaker 4: I know it's busy right now, it's got it's it's
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: taking care of the pageant. But if it needs to
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: go to Omaha, you let me know. We've talked about
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: that before. I mean, you said you would pick me
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: up in Treeport.
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: I know every year I say I'm going to get
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: to more college basketball games, and then I don't, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: then I want to get to Omaha, and I want
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: to get to a baseball.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: Game or softball to World Series, and I haven't.
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: These kids, man, pageant life's just sucking all my lass,
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: my younger, it's you know, pageant life.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you guys, your daughters keep them away from pageants.
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: I heard owning horses was the most expensive extracurricular a
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: human can have.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: No, it's pageants. Do not do pageants.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Oh hey, well you know now that you're in it,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: best of luck. I've had the chance to meet your daughter,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: so certainly rooting for her. Hope she goes out there
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: and wins Miss Georgia and moves on, and you've got
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: more money to spend.
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: Sr Yo, Man, Miss America is a whole news.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Let me imagine how many days, how many days he's.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Going to be there for twenty four days if we
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: go Miss America. So hey, best of luck, Ben, you're
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: the man. We appreciate it, sir, and look forward to
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: the next conversation. Always appreciate you guys, have good one,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: all right, you as well? Our guy, Ben Hart Sock,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Ohio state legend, a decade in the NFL in my
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: colleague at serious XM.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Always one of my favorites.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Man, he's crushing it. Man. Yeah, I don't know. I've
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: never spoke to him before, but I think he'd be I'll.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Never beer with.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, he has got stories on stories on stories.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: He had.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Like I said, you played a decade in the NFL,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: and he played with the Colts and Peyton Manning and
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: he played with Carolina so Greg Olsen and kind of
• 18:57
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• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Then also played for the Falcons. It's funny.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: He played for the Falcons I think for a year
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: and that's where he chose to live. So he's from Ohio,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: played at Ohio State, longtime cold, longtime panther one year
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: with the Falcons, and that's where he lives.
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: Was it like, uh, it's whereas that His wife just
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: loved it. I fell in love with him. Love it
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: good for them, you know. It's it's funny because every
• 19:23
  Speaker 10: parent is you talk to all these parents, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 10: our kids are at the age are still figuring out
• 19:27
  Speaker 10: what they want to do. But are parents with older
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: kids everything they do, They're like, oh, don't let your
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: kids play soccer. Oh, don't let him swim, don't let
• 19:35
  Speaker 10: them volleyball, do it, don't let them do this. But
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: I think he might be the one that's right there
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: on the whole. That's that's some long days expensive. My
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: wife was pageant. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: don't I don't even really know her stance with my
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: little girls in the pageant pageant world. So I'll being
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: addressed to see I'm definitely going to relay this information.
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  Speaker 2: Over though for sure ten days.
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  Speaker 3: See, but you're you're I know, we got to take
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: a break.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: But like, so I have odd daughter, you have multiple daughters, right,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: and so like you might get away with that conversation like, hey,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: if we do this once, you know we're gonna do
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it twice. Like it's really expensive, Like the fact that
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: we only have one daughter and four boys. I know
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: that kid's gonna be like, oh really remember that travel
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: baseball fee that we paid. Remember that tournament that we
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: went to and spent thousands of dollars saying in a hotel.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You remember that seven on seven tournament we had to
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: travel across the country for and you didn't bat deny. Yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: go buy the dress. I mean it's gonna be the
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: whole conversation. Yeah, fair points, absolutely so. Yeah, we got break.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 4: We got Jerry Mitchell in about ten minutes from now
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  Speaker 4: joining us to break down LSU VERSUS Arkansas and really
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  Speaker 3: You know, I love bring the heat this one.
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to really go to the well on
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  Speaker 4: I got you, Okay, I got you. Gwenn's got you too.
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  Speaker 4: Don't like, don't let this man try to be too cool. Okay,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: let me tell you something I have I have. Listen.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I've got vivid memories of West Campus apartment. It was
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams, Matt Flynn, Peter Dakowski on the top floor, Me,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Luke Sanders, Craig Stouts in the middle floor.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: And I would go up to their apartment.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: And we would watch reruns of Dawson's Creek on TBS.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Nine to ten, govery morning. It was our stories.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: It was our stories.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we were getting you know, we were getting back
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  Speaker 4: from workouts, about to go to class.
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  Speaker 3: Relax. We went to class because we had to, and
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  Speaker 3: little Dawson's Creek. We went to class when we knew
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  Speaker 3: we had to go to class.
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  Speaker 4: That is a art when you had a class checker
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  Speaker 4: and you knew how to be checked in the class,
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  Speaker 4: but also the right door to sneak out of set
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  Speaker 4: class and avoid the class checker.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm not saying that school wasn't important. It was.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I graduated with honors from LSU, all right, But you
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: know when you go to class, Matt, and you know
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: when you don't have to go to class, you know
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: who to ask the right person for notes, and if
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  Speaker 4: you're really smart, you get your girlfriend who's going to
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  Speaker 4: be your wife, to take the same classes as you do.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You know, being a student athlete's a delicate balance.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: You're basically delicate an employee of the university and you
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: happen to go to school as well.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Back then, like I felt like, do I work for LSU?
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: I think my kids are actually the cars. I'm not
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: going to like really give the boy to our three
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: on that way.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Hey, Flynn, children, if you want the full rundown on
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: your father, I got you.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: You let me know. Huck school, I see you. No,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. No it is.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that school is important, but there is a
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: way so you get to college. There is a way
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: when you're in college to make sure you're doing all
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: the right things.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: But also you don't have to.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Be in there. He's got to take care of your business.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: He got to take care of that, Bene.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you when when me and Steltz went
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: into Ted White's office, who was you know, our academic
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: counselor the man he was, the man he was in
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: was he in like Major League or Angels in the Outfield.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: He was an extra in one of those movies.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Anyways, we go into Ted's office and he's like, hey, guys,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you're a freshman. You got to go to study hall
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: and our schedule was brutal. So go into study hall
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: from seven to nine at night after you finish practice
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: and all that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Like it was miserable.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: It is what it is that it was terrible just
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: because you didn't get home till like nine thirty.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: He's like, but but if you two goofballs make over
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: a three to two five your first semester, I'm never
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: gonna see you again unless you really mess up your
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: first semester on campus. If you make over a three
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: to two five, you're done. That's all I had to hear.
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they they stopped class checking you at least when
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: we were I think the older we got, the more
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: we didn't have to go to study hall. Yeah, you
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: have to go to study hall if you take care
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: of business. You got to move off campus after a year.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big deal. I was tied into it. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, just you gotta start out strong early.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: You fool them early and then you continue to trick
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: them along the way, and then you graduate with honors
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: our general Studies degree.
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: That was one of the biggest, like like when you
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: look at regrets, that was one of the biggest ones
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: I have because I did. I went into college not
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: really know what I wanted to study. I know I
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: wanted to play football. If I would have like enjoyed
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: and like been into the classes, it would have been
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: a lot different stories. But I was, you know, I
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: was taking classes with like twenty five other football people,
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: football players.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then that was it, you get it. And then
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: we got we got a guy jar Mitchell set to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: join us. Yeah, there's a lot of classes I have
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: with uh no, only football, but like Big Baby Davis
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  Speaker 4: Tyris Thomas, Oh.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, football, basketball, we were all intermingled.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Baseball had did their own thing, like baseball didn't hang
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: out with us. Our football and basketball hung out Baseball
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: guys like they didn't.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: They did their own thing, like they didn't want to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: hang out with us. Yeah, it's fine.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: It is funny though, Like so one of like I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: had a math minor in college, like Matt just is
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: kind of my thing. Like English certainly not my thing,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: but math was. I didn't see many athletes in that class.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: In those math classes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: I was taking.
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: Not a lot of athletes that winter session class I took,
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: I talked about last week, you gotta shove a whole
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: semester into two weeks.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I was the only athlete in that one.
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  Speaker 4: I bet you were, all right, we are going to
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  Speaker 4: set very cool cool. It is very I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't say I didn't say anything bad.
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  Speaker 3: What do we say that was bad?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Nothing? We spoke truth is all right, some knowledge we.
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  Speaker 4: Are going to go to break when we come back.
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  Speaker 4: Jared Mitchell, lsu Legend SEC Network will join us.
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  Speaker 4: All right, then, welcome back in OTB one four five
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  Speaker 4: former teammates now crushing it on the SEC network. Mister
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Mitchell joins the show. Now, j Mitch, how you doing, sir?
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Always a pleasure.
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  Speaker 6: I'm feeling great. How you boys?
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  Speaker 3: Doing.
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  Speaker 6: Man, how y'all living?
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  Speaker 3: We are doing fantastic? Hey how about this?
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: A week into doing the show, Flynn showed up seven
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: days in a row, So shout out to Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: But J Mitch, he's about to go out of town
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: for like a week.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, hey, we all wish you could be.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Seven days is a lot. I need a break, Bud,
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  Speaker 2: and listen.
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  Speaker 11: I'm used to us being like in this kind of setting,
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  Speaker 11: but like we all used to have to shut up
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  Speaker 11: and like just let Matt talk, like.
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  Speaker 3: So like yes exactly, and we're in the huddle.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, shut up, you peasants, let me talk, and
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  Speaker 4: he tries to do the same thing here. J Mitch Man,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I am so happy for you. You're crushing it on
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the SEC network. Love seeing our LSU brethren on there,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: even though you have to put up with part time
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  Speaker 4: Peter Burns.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: We apologize for that portion of.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: It, but man, love seeing you on there. And how Hey,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: how are you going to take in Omaha like that?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Do you know? Are you gonna be in studio for that?
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: No?
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: So I'm gonna be home for that. I depends. I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: thinking about going up there. On the back app of
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: twenty three. We went up there for like the first
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: five days, which happened to be LSU's like first two games, Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: which was great. Like now and now I'm like, all right,
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: well I'm not going up there the first half of
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: this thing, so like past the weekend, I think I'm
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: thinking about going up there for like the back half
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  Speaker 11: or whatever else we can kind of get through at
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: that point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, it's gonna be a tough opening match up.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Now It's like it's funny because it's like the toughest
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: matchup possible for both teams, for Arkansas for LSU when
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: you look at the field. But it is a team
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Jay Minch that you had a series with earlier. You
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: do take two of three there, Like, does that give
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: you any kind of you know, mental edge over Arkansas,
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  Speaker 4: Like knowing that you did take the series from them,
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  Speaker 4: even though it wasn't Baton rouge, Like, is that something
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  Speaker 4: you can take or is it almost like a complete
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• 31:31
  Speaker 11: Now, yeah, I think you take it and the reasons
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: why you take it too. Listen, they played them, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: want to up to say in early May, right, like
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: it wasn't that long ago, it was. It's in the
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: back half of the SEC schedule, and I think at
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: the time Arkansas was rolling, they were playing really well.
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: That had just swept Texas I believe a week or
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: a week or two weeks before that. Yeah, and you
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: got their best shot, like they they played well against you,
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: and you still beat them, and you had a chance
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: to sweep going in a Sunday and into that game
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: as well. So I do think that's something that you
• 31:59
  Speaker 11: could kind of take the mental edge over them. Obviously,
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: you're not playing in bat nerves at times. That's a
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: little bit different for both teams. But with that being said,
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: like you're gonna get I would imagine, like I can't
• 32:08
  Speaker 11: see it happen in any other way, but I would
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: imagine you're probably gonna get Zach group game one. Although
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: Arkansas did throw gauge wood in that last game that
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: they played, and they only threw them for like forty
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: eight pitches, so I don't I'm wondering why at that
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: point they had gotten a big league on a big lead.
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: I'm wondering why they did that at that point. But
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: I would imagine it's gonna be Zach rupe. But this
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: is a game where like man I think at this
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: time of the year, Like I truly think at this
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: time of the year, it is essential for your offensive
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: players to perform. That your stars kind of got to
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: show up on that side of the ball because think
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: about like the pressure points if you will, and playing
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: in a super regional and or playing in Omaha where
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: it's I would much rather that pressure if you will
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: be spread out among nine bats in the lineup than
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: it for it to be all on my pitcher having
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: to keep teams at bay had one to two to
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: three runs. So, like, I think it's important that the
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: bats show up at this time of the year.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: That way, you.
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: Give some room for mistake and era, and you allow
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: the pitcher to kind of settle in that much easier.
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it kind of seems like the bats are heating
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: up and are pretty hot right now, so I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: as LSU fans, we're feeling pretty good about it. Javitch,
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: I want to talk ask you a question that we
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: actually got asked in our audience chat earlier in the day. Well,
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: first of all, congrats on the success that you're killing it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: Love watching you out there, But we got to ask earlier,
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: like when teams get to get to Omaha in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: College World Series start. Do you think that they should
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: be reseeded?
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: So for me, not Omaha. Here's where I have a
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: problem at when it comes to that entire term. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: I do think like as easy as things to get
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: fixed in football when the when the noise gets loud,
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: I think if the same noise was around college baseball,
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: things will get fixed.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: So you play out a fifty six.
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: Game schedule and then they go ahead and see regional
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: host sites, but they give them to what is called
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: the top sixteen national seeds. So when you're in that situation,
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: why on earth are you conceding home field advantage when
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: teams have to come to you. So if I'm the
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: number one team in a regional and there's four, right,
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: the higher sheet seeds should always be the higher be
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: the home team.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: So when you get to what was.
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: LSU's a game seven win all game seven in your
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: own regional and you're playing a number four seed, number
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: three seed, number two, it doesn't matter. Why is LSU
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: the away team? We played all season for this? This
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: is why you gave me the home site because I'm
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: the better team, so I should be getting home field
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: advantage at its truest form in that situation, and then
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: same thing goes for the super Regional. I got this
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: spot based off of how we performed throughout the year,
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: So why on earth are we switching home and away?
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: That doesn't make any sense to me, right, like that
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: just that's crazy to me, And I think that's the
• 34:54
  Speaker 11: kind of things I think. I'm just like that, doesn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 11: I get what you're trying to do. But then we
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: just go ahead, Why don't we just go play at
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: a neutral site? Then if that's what we're gonna do.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you there, because like the rule and
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the tiebreak, it's like, okay, which team hasn't been the
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: home team? Like, whichever team hasn't been that, like you're
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: going to get it in the regional play, and look,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: we know, like that could have cost you in regional play.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Like you're sitting there game number seven and you're the
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: away team, and sure you get your own dugout in
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: locker room, but still like it matters who has the
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: final three outs there. It didn't get kind of loud though,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: So maybe Jay Mitchell, that is something that maybe might
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: get changed.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: I hope. So I really think they need to change that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: I just think, like I said, game seven, so I
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: get it man, like you get your own crowd.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: So like that part of it doesn't really go away.
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but think about football, if we're going into an overtime,
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: everybody wants the chance to pick to play defense first,
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: to know what.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: You got to do, right, No one's choosing.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: No one's truly choosing in I want to do it first,
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: and I have to know what I have to do
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: like that just that's the case of no one would
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: ever do that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: So like that's that's kind of where I'm at with
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: l No.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: It's a good analogy. I like that when they're hey,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I do want to ask you though, because you've done
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: mean you've done it all football and baseball, so you've
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: gone through different grinds of you know, playing in the
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: SEC championship game and then a BCS national championship game
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: in the football sided thing.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: But omaha's a different beast.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Like Omaha, if you're there and you go win a
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: national championship, you're there for a long time. Like what
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: is the most difficult part about that grind? Like when
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: you go you don't really know how long you're going
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: to be there and then if you do win that
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: national championship again like mentally, I know physically as well,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Like you have to be exhausted by the end of
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: that run.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: What's that like going through the totality of Omaha.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of things.
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: The first thing you point at too, is it's a
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: huge point, right, like you if you win from start
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: to finish, you're pretty much there for like two a
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: little bit over two weeks, I believe, which a lot
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: of people don't realize. Like that's a long time to
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: be like completely away from the house, to be on
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: the road and like not be in your quote unquote routine, right,
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: Like it's a go while to be that situation. There's
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: also like when you get there, even compared to SEC stadiums,
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: just the first time you're probably going to a lot
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: of those guys are playing with like a second deck.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: I know it was obviously LSU went or not even
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: this year because they played in Frisco, but like in
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: the past they played in the Shriner's Classic in Houston,
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: where you're finally playing with the second deck of stadium.
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: Like that's a different view when you're on the field
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: as well, like it finding the ball, continuing to keep
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: finding the ball in the outfield is that's something completely different.
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: So like that's something about it too. But I also
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: think the suspense and the drama of postseason baseball over
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: the course of two weeks, like that, once again, it
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: becomes a draining thing. Now it's it's great, it's a
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: great field, but like when the game's over, it becomes
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: a you come so far down it because it's I
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: mean the same thing like in football, man, like you
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: playing one game week, it's tough, but imagine like having
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: not just physically emotionally, having to play like three games
• 37:45
  Speaker 11: in one week.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: That's tough.
• 37:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah, right, And I think all those things combined and
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: being able to stay disciplined focusing like on that like
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: short and narrow for that it's tough to do and
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: it makes it hard. And I think the best teams
• 37:58
  Speaker 11: kind of obviously end up being in being in the
• 38:01
  Speaker 11: end of it, because it's there's a lot of elements
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: in terms of staying focused that you have to do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: One of the things that for LSU that they've struggled against.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: If we get into the matchup against Arkansas, you mentioned
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: like Newton might be the starting pitcher there. Lefties have
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: given LSU some trouble like in the past, and so like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: I wonder how much of that goes into all these different,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: you know, decisions, and like Anthony Iinsen had a big
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: day against Arkansas in the regular season, Like all the
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: little minute changes in the lineup, that's going to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: fascinating to kind of play out there, because like this
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: is your one opportunity, and so like, what do you
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: think LSU is going to do as far as what
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: they do on the mound.
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: So I would imagine it's probably gonna be lefty lefty
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: matchup in that game one. I think Zach Rut's gonna
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: throw for them, and I'm pretty sure Kid's gonna throw
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: for LSU at that point.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: I think it's imperative.
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: If you remember, go back to the Super Regional Game one,
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: they faced a lefty uh from why am I forgetting
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: the name? They faced the lefty from the team they
• 39:02
  Speaker 11: just played West Virginia, and his plan in that game
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: was he really wanted to bust all of the hitters in,
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: particularly the right handed hitters, and very early on in
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: the game you could see you kind of made the
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: adjustment and understood. Okay, if this is what you're gonna do,
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: We're just gonna really get on top of the plate.
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: We're not gonna give you room for era off the
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: plate inside, and if you miss over the plate, we
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: hammer you right. And that's kind of where they went,
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: and they were able to execute that game plan.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Like to a t.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: There was five I think there was eight walks.
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: I think there was five hit batters, and really three
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: swings turned into eleven runs. Right, So, like, I think
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: it's gonna be imperative for them if they face Zach
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: Routine that game, where I would expect him to at
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: some level neutralized the left handed bats in that lineup.
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: But it's gonna take guys like Barre Jones and Stephen
• 39:53
  Speaker 11: Stephen Milin from the right side. Obviously it's a switch
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: hitter from the right side gonna take. Don't guys like
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: Daniel Dickinson's gonna take guys like Ethan, those guys, Luis Hernandez, those.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Guys in a lineup.
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: I am really interested to see how they're able to
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: fare against them, because I do think if you're able
• 40:08
  Speaker 11: to put runners on and you're able to push some across,
• 40:11
  Speaker 11: it makes it tough and guys like so like, we
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: got two weekends back to back weekends. If you think
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: about it, the regionals in the super regions where the
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: one and two ace that we have the one A,
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: one B. However you want to look at it, those
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: guys both went seven plus in the regions and it
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: was shut down baseball. And then when you got to
• 40:29
  Speaker 11: the Super regional. I'm not saying that they threw bad
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: at all, because it felt like to me the mark
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: of what an old school starting pitcher was where it
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: doesn't matter what the other team is scoring, you're always
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: keeping us in the game. So if that calls for
• 40:45
  Speaker 11: we scored sixteen, I believe in game one, if that
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: calls for you going seven and giving up eight seven runs,
• 40:50
  Speaker 11: so be it, because when you leave, we still have
• 40:52
  Speaker 11: a big lead or we're still within striking range of
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: winning the ball game.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: That used to be what the mark of a really
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: good starting pitcher was.
• 40:58
  Speaker 11: Every time they got out out there, no matter what
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: the score was, they gave you a chance to win
• 41:03
  Speaker 11: the game.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: And you saw both sides of that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: So I do think like those two guys are and
• 41:08
  Speaker 11: then obviously having Caden Game one, he's going to give
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: you a chance to win. Now, it's can you do
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: the little things to push those runs across across that
• 41:16
  Speaker 11: you need to win the ball game.
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: Jared, I'm always interested in diving, like into the mindset
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: of an athlete and like yourself being like a former
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: really accomplished dual dual sport athlete. In football, when you
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: beat somebody, it's always they always say it's hard to
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: beat somebody twice, like a good team twice. So you
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: beat beat somebody in the regular season, Okay, now all
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: of a sudden, I got to go play him in
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: a conference championship game or bowl game or whatever it is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: It's the way the adages. Man, it's always hard to
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: beat someone twice. Beat someone ty Well els you swept
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: Arkansas two to three, two out of three. That's what
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: they won the series. So is it the same kind
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: of mindset going into when you have to play somebody
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: again that you've already beaten in the same season, knowing
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: that they're a really good team. Is it kind of
• 41:59
  Speaker 10: the same like mental block, mental barrier hurdle that you
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: have to overcome that you that you did.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And in the football world.
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: I think it can and it can't be, and there's
• 42:10
  Speaker 11: two different ways of it being that way. I think
• 42:12
  Speaker 11: if it is, it's a to like go back to
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: Friday night LSU Arkansas, if you're able to get to
• 42:17
  Speaker 11: Zach root early, get some runner on, push some runs across.
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: I do think in his mind at that point it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: maybe I don't have my best stuff or all. It's
• 42:26
  Speaker 11: they're making it tough for me again. And then when
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: in that same mindset, it's if you you throw Kde
• 42:32
  Speaker 11: and he throws well, and the next guy you bring
• 42:35
  Speaker 11: out of somebody that maybe got him last time as well,
• 42:37
  Speaker 11: I think that same mindset starts to creep.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 42:40
  Speaker 11: I do you think it changes in baseball in terms
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: of let's say Zach Rude goes out there and he shoves,
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: and then they bring out somebody that maybe LSU didn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 11: hit well before. That's where I think it kind of changes,
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: because now that dugout would feel like, oh this is
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: not the same this. We look different this time, right,
• 42:54
  Speaker 11: Like we're a different team, we got a different performance.
• 42:56
  Speaker 11: But when things kind of start going the way they
• 42:58
  Speaker 11: went before, yeah, I do think team started looking at
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: like all right here we go, you know, right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: All right there he is our guy, Jared Mitchell, good
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: enough to join us here, great form teammate of ours.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Also star at LSU Baseball SEC Network star now. J Mitch,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: we appreciate the time as always. Man, if you do
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: make it up to omahall enjoy the experience and just
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: hey costs let us know the vibe.
• 43:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I give you timey on a.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: One hundred and forty three yards two thousand and seven.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I know right there.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: J Mitch.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, man, Hey, you're the you're the man. We appreciate it. Hey, hey,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: if you just gave you a better ball, you'd at
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: least two hundred.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeard any question, I a couple of I.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Just appreciate it, man, that's all right, that's all right,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: J Mitch, we appreciate it, brother, all right, boys, take
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: it easy.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: There he is Jared Mitchell, good enough to join us here.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Get the guy a better ball. I know A couple
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: behind him.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, show.
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: I mean there was a game you missed the hot route.
• 43:58
  Speaker 12: I remember that. It was he a freshman, young, Yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 12: he's young. He was young, rich freshman freshman, maybe richer freshman.
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: It didn't really matter because we gotta go to break
• 44:08
  Speaker 12: more OTB when we come.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Back off the bench.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: You know what's better than going to Omaha?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Matt, I do I know?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: It's better being in omahall with a dosecis.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Lots of do secies.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Responsibly uh, tailgate in the parking lot about to watch LSU.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Versus Arkansas and some lawn chairs.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: And we're not sharing those do sequis with the pigs.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: These are our dosecis.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Arkansas fans probably drinking trash beer.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably like just you know that one that you
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: go in there and you buy the flat and it's like, hey,
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: that will be four bucks.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: You're getting four buck beer. You're not getting an ice
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: cool dosectis.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: That's what type of beer I'm about to be having.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I hate you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: A little vacation beer, a little airport beer, maybe a
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: beach beer. Vacation a right, so we'll be if you're
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: playing it on deleting some beers responsibly go for dose.
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: He'll pick up some dose sekis.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and FLYNT breakdown L s
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: U football like only champions can.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: All right, man, welcome I game OTB one four five
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: ESPN baton rouge.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: You're on this Tuesday morning and I.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Have the legends legendary time. Man.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Sure, I mean less of the legend. Did I say,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you're saying that's where we got it from?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Mean, look, we've we've had like great guests at the
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: thirty Whoops. I'm not even saying we'll get better because
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: we probably won't.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Actually, we went pretty long before the guests.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's all nice people. We'll get better.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Let me hit the chest shout out.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I got Jamie in the chat said I was doing good.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: For two weeks until you leave us for shot days.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football. When would jump back
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: on no TV?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Off the bench