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Tech Talk: Craig Peterson · Newsradio WGAN

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  Craig Peterson's time to join us on the program.
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  He is with us now. Craig Peterson, how are you this
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  morning? Hey, doing good.
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  Was that some like Ken Paxton music out of Texas?
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  Is that what that was? The bum?
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  It's something. Yeah, it is indeed excellent.
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  Thanks, Greg. So listen, I have a question for
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  you. I'm going to connect a story
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  I've been talking about this morning throughout so far, the
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  Grand Platner, the latest scandal in the Grand Platner
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  universe. I mean, all this stuff is really
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  related to Reddit, right? It just is.
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  I mean, he's got this Reddit account and he was clearly an
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  Internet troll for the better part of like a decade.
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  He deleted this account. Grant Planner did.
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  And yet all of this stuff remains findable and visible and
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  now is being revealed. Can you tell me a little bit
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  about why the Internet is forever and why you can't just
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  delete stuff and get rid of it and have it have, you know, sort
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  of have it no longer haunt you? Tell me more.
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  Yeah, exactly. There is a lot of people I'm
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  sure know what he had been posting.
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  But the Internet is, it's not necessarily that everything's
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  forever. And I know some people have that
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  misconception, but if it's something that's of real
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  interest, well then it might be kept by people.
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  But more than that, what happens is sites like Reddit and and
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  YouTube and others are feeding points for all kinds of other
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  websites. So they will take the content
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  and they'll post it. And they don't just put a link
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  into YouTube or Reddit or whatever.
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  They actually take the content and put it on their own sites.
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  Now there's, you know, questions about legality there.
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  And then the other thing to remember is Reddit is being the
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  primary training ground for many of the large language models out
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  there. Many of the that's a.
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  Scary thing. And yes, and the other big
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  training ground is YouTube and that's primarily what our
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  friends over at Open AI use to train it.
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  So guess what, you're, you're stuck with it forever now
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  because it's a part of these large language models, these AIS
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  that we're using. And they you're if particularly
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  if your stuff was posted some time ago, like basically before
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  December 2023, it's going to be here forever.
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  Indeed. So that means that if you are
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  someone who frankly is Graham Plattner's age and you've spent
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  time on Internet message boards and Reddit and comment pages of
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  YouTube and stuff like that, you probably should think about not
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  running for office. Is that where we're at or, or
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  are we now at a place of such a great saturation that that that
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  maybe like everybody's so bad that no one cares?
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  I mean, thoughts, Craig? I mean, you live in the you live
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  in the Internet. So what do you think?
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  I just put him here into Google just to see what would come up
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  with. OK, so first of all, came up
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  with an ad for Graham for Maine, his US Senate campaign.
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  OK, that makes sense. So he's paying money for that.
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  But then all of a sudden now we've got Graham Plattner and
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  it's got stuff here about him, Mother Jones News, Facebook, his
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  education. Well, probably because he's
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  running for Senate. It's got a little more than
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  would for normal person, no question about it.
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  But it's it's got all kinds of stuff about him, you know,
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  praising vulgar graffiti, making crude admissions and goes on and
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  on. So, yeah, it, it's, it's a
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  problem, you know, if you've got that kind of history and that's
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  why they've been advising, I don't know Matt, for at least 20
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  years. Don't be an idiot when you're a
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  kid and post, post pictures of you drunk or smoking with
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  buddies and other things. Because your employers, your
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  future employers, whether they be the electorate or a company,
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  are going to do a search like I just did on Grand Plattner, and
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  they're going to find some stuff that's going to really turn them
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  off. And then I'm really turned off.
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  We're going to just the summary Google gave me.
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  Yeah, Craig Peterson, joining us as he typically does here, had a
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  number of stories on my list about Google really pushing out
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  some new products here. Gemini 3.5 Flash is one of them.
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  They've got the Gemini Omni model there.
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  There's a lot of stuff that's coming out here in the
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  continuing wars of the AI development universe.
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  I, I, I occasionally will ask you like, you know, sort of
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  who's got the edge or who's coming up and, and sort of
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  improving their product and, you know, sort of was down, but now
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  is up and was up and now is down.
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  Google specifically, though, obviously has spent an awful lot
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  of time and effort and money trying to, to not only get in
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  this game, but maybe win this game.
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  How is it going for Google? Well, I'm looking at the current
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  rankings and Google doesn't even show up in the top 10.
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  So there you go. One of the things people are
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  really upset about Google with right now is they're pulling a
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  Microsoft. You know, where Microsoft has
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  put their copilot into absolutely everything and it
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  gets in the way and people have found it annoying and so
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  Microsoft is pulling it out. Guess what?
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  Google announced they're putting their AI into Android.
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  Every part of Android, Everything Everywhere All at
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  Once. There's a movie by that name,
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  wasn't there? And that's going to annoy
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  people. So Google's AIS are quite good.
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  There's no two ways about it. They've done quite a good job
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  when it comes to answering questions that might have a
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  little bit of political background.
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  What's interesting, of course, is Glock seems to be the best
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  even at historical events. And that has to do with the
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  training we're just talking about, right?
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  If you're trained on all of this liberal stuff or random stuff
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  from Reddit or YouTube or in Star or any of these types of
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  platforms, you that AI is going to pick up what was said and how
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  it was said. And it's just going to keep now
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  regurgitating that. We're going to get stuck in a
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  real bad loop as we go forward as these AIS kind of feed each
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  other. And that's another thing that's
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  been a problem. There have been accusations
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  against some of the major AI firms, and particularly against
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  the Chinese and Kwen, that they're using Google's AI and
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  Open AI and to a lesser extent Anthropic to train their AI.
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  So where's it going? Google is doing, I think they're
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  going to rin win, continue to win the race when it comes to
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  searches because that's where people used to going.
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  They do a very good job. They have figured out now how to
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  integrate the AI results with advertising as well as real
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  results. I think that's a very good
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  thing. People still use a lot of people
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  AI to do their searches for information.
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  And I think that's a real bad idea most of the time because
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  the it's not really that well curated, curated, if it's
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  curated at all. So we'll see how it goes.
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  But they've done some very good jobs on Google has on some of
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  the latest stuff. It was interesting to see them
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  withdraw some of their AI work, and that's probably because they
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  needed the horsepower for what they just released here.
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  Indeed, Craig Peterson joining us as he typically does on
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  Wednesdays at this time. What's going on in the world of
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  tech right now, Craig Peterson that I don't know about that I
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  should. I've been meaning to ask you
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  this question for a while, right?
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  I mean, I, I usually do a scan around the news or read your
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  newsletter obviously before you join us here.
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  But I think maybe the technologists among us who are
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  listening may be curious to know about some things bubbling up
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  there that have just not got wide press coverage, that have
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  just not really been, you know, widely recognized as important
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  stories that are that are going to be things that we talk about
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  soon. Have anything in mind?
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  Well, one of the big things that's happening kind of, well,
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  definitely behind the scenes is it has, we now have a divide.
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  You know, we've had a political divide for, for a while, at
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  least 20 years, but we're talking about a divide when it
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  comes to people who are working in industry and businesses are
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  now actually leaning to and are more than leaning.
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  They're what they're doing is hiring older people who have
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  experience so that they can now use the AI, recognize when it's
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  wrong and then go on. The divide is the, these older
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  guys like myself or you know, there's lots of people that are,
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  have been technologists and programmers for decades are
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  getting these jobs. The younger guys are not getting
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  the jobs. And I'm, I'm really starting to
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  see that and really concerns me because we, we both know about
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  AI slop and a lot of people have talked about it.
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  But when I'm doing programming, I work because I've, I've got my
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  forward to safety product, right, which is designed to do
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  deep dives into e-mail that you have that you think might be
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  phishing. And so I'm, I'm using AI to help
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  me with that. And I'd say about 20% of the
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  time the AI makes bad decisions on programming and I have to
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  stop at mid, you know, while is working on something and then
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  correct it and tell it to go a different direction.
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  The, the strategies are wrong, the, the, the superstructure is
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  wrong and what they're doing and even the basic implementation is
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  wrong. You cannot have a junior person
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  managing that because they just don't know.
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  So where we thought a lot of people would be displaced in
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  white collar business while they are, no question about it, but
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  it doesn't seem to be the older group.
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  It the numbers show that it isn't.
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  It's the younger group and unemployment there is going to
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  get very high pretty fast. Indeed, and that's where we have
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  to end. Unfortunately, we are out of
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  time, so we have to stop there. Appreciate it as always.
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  Craig Peterson, make sure you visit Craig Peterson's website,
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  sign up for his newsletter, and make sure you listen to him on
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  the weekend here on WGAN. Appreciate it always, Sir, and
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  we'll talk to you next week.